If for some reason you’re reading this 5 years later, LSV references this match in one of his flashback challenges playing this deck. Ruben shouldn’t have emblemed Gideon because it cut off his Avacyn into 0 mana hanger back line, which would have won him the game I think? You can hear Ruben reference this in the after game talk with Luis. Super interesting gameplay.
@@badvoodoo2097 look at these games though, CoCo could be taken in so many directions. I think Cat/Oven is similar and each deck is the same, sure sometimes green, sometimes mono black, but always just the same loop.
+Farnanonicall she's actually really good at Magic if you watch the Super League videos for standard she crushed it against some of the best player in the world
+Jeremy Vane-Tempest that isn't really relevant, it's not very articulate. A writer typically doesn't use the same word over and over to describe something and thus her commentating has been sub-par. The White Knights are the real problem. People are complimenting her based on her looks and gender and defending her off those merits alone, sickening really, .
Well because ormendahl is a flip,card he dosent have any mana cost because he is a land but you have to pay five mama and sac 5 creatures to transform it. Also they shuffle so the cards they get are random and have fun
+Stephan Wyrsta Also important, it's distracting and makes it look like you have lots of different routes to take. Even if you have two lands and an emrakul in hand, they don't know if you're wondering whether to bolt or drop a creature or none of those.
+Stephan Wyrsta I don't know if it's a nervous thing or is meant to help them "get in the zone." Humans are very ritualstic and think better when we do things to a sort of rhythm. It's sort of like pacing while thinking.
They need to do a better job of displaying the cards that have been played. It would be very easy to do and it would make watching magic much more enjoyable.
The moment when Steve realised his mistake... I'm glad he won in the end! All the lines he figured out on this otherwise tough matchup show he is an amazing player!
federicobiondi431 and they can't be killed, they can only be removed if they are returned to hand, exiled, or have enough-1/-1 counters to take it to 0
so this are some thoughts if you are going to keep gaby on the coverage team then pair her up with randy and marshall BECAUSE i think the way they interact and also how their voices sound fit each other as with ian and tim ... there voices are far to "deep" compared to randys or gabys marshall is the exception to those 3 guys because his voice is real soft on the ear just to clarify i do not dislike any commentator but i dislike some pairs because its sometimes hard to concentrate just because their voices kinda fight each other maybe im the only one that thinks so but maybe its something you should consider
+Ic3dsoul I don't care much about the sound of their voices together, but I do think that commentators should have chemistry. LSV and Marshall have the best commentary partially for this reason. That's not to say that the chemistry is bad here; it's pretty good. But Ian and Gabby totally didn't work. Ian is way too serious and Gaby doesn't bring much comic relief.
+Ic3dsoul actually it's just that her voice is really annoying and it's ok to say that. we don't need to sugarcoat the fact that not only is her voice annoying but her lets try and be super cute giggly girl act gets old real quick. as evidenced above many fanboys love she's an attractive woman and that is enough to like her. but she is a terrible commentator comparatively and the "i'm a girl and cute giggle" just irks me the wrong way
Lawrence Chatfield I don't mind her voice and didn't pick up on the "cute giggly girl" thing. But she hardly ever has anything of value to add to the conversation.
i actually dont think its a "cute girl" thing she has the knowledge about the game and she does a good job but there is much room for improvement for sure im not denying that maybe people just dont like some commentators thats fine but most of them are just too bitchy about it ...
I've tested against this B/G deck a lot on magic online. The tactic seems to be just to reduce the number of their creatures. Play into the removal you have.
Vaerthelmn 52 Well they can just vomit their hand back out. Especially with Rites. But I guess that sets them back a few terms. My deck is a Naya midrange deck so Displacement Wave is not in my colours I'm afraid.
Vaerthelmn 52 Yep I have 3 in the sideboard though that is mainly there for humans to sure up and already good matchup. You have to be careful with it against this deck though and honestly I am not sure you should bring it in. Firstly Cutthroats mean you take a tonne from sweepers anyway. And husk can easily outgrow it.
+ScrapperTBP It still forces the opponent's hand, making them sac creatures when they otherwise wouldn't have. Not saying its amazing, but probably fine.
+Ic3dsoul U dont get it? I just cant believe a profession commenter in pro tour dosent know one of most important card in a 11-1 players deck given that the deck has already showed on camera many times on day one. I hope now u know what I am talking
Ladies and gentlemen magic players of all ages please take note of how a professional magic players hands should be during a match, folded and calmly on the table not flicking through his cards or shuffling like an OCD person had a baby with an A.D.D person.
I was just going to comment that I had to stop watching after a few minutes, because they were both actually doing exactly that. Watch guy on right starting at 4:22 for over a minute, which is where I had to stop the video to keep my sanity.
So when Randy wonders why doesnt Brad go for planeswalkers with his World Breaker , but white mana sources instead, don't trust him and just RTFC (exiles artifact, enchantment or land). That would also explain why he scoops the very next turn: Narset ultimate and he can't cast non creature spells like Goggles and Fall of the Titans... It's rather lame that a hall of fame member focuses more on the results from other tables than the actual board state or player's strategy, that's what I'd like to hear from the commentators!
Why does Gaby's vocabulary only include words such as "rumble" and "off the top"? I swear to God, every time she talks, she mentions "rumble" or "off the top", she needs to expand her vocabulary. Like, every time someone attacked, she's saying "oh, he will RUMBLE for 2"...bitch, this isn't WrestleMania.
Other than that, I guess she's trying to improve, so it's all good. Just, for the love of God, improve your vocabulary, it's like you're an elementary school level English speaker.
omg i didnt know magic the gathering was a real card game, I thought it was only some shitty dirty asshole rigged online game. Lol. Who would ever spend money on such a stupid fucking game. The owners can't even make a randomized shuffler, I'd ber embarassed to tell anyone I've spent real money on such a shit stupid game.
First of all a Deck which isn't the 1.000 copy of a Deck. I mean where are the creativ ideas? Something special, a kind of the Seasons Past-Deck. But no, everytime it's just a copy of an another deck. Sry for my bad english. xD
***** the SOI top 8 consists of 8 unique decks. There are no copies whatsoever. Every match we watch tomorrow will be between two distinct decks. So I have to disagree with your complaint about copies and a lack of creative ideas. And your English is perfectly reasonable. I understand it just fine. Too not to, though.
Whoever the girl announcer is, remove her. She is literally just saying what is happening, which is partly what an announcer does, but doesn't put much input which is half to all. Usually good game announcers announces possibilities like two steps ahead or at least goes on to fun topics or tries to make it entertaining. She sounds like she's a golf announcer.
"I can guarantee you one thing right now." "What's that?" "Twitch chat is asking how you could cast Gideon." God I love Luis.
For anyone who couldn't figure it out (like me): Oath of Nissa
when gideon cast game 1, idk time
+Drew Perri 4:00
JdV
I came here four years later to type this.
4:05 Luis is right twitch chat was asking how he could cast that gideon
+J. Slugg (Sluggs) bruh oath of nissa always any mana to be spent for planesalkers
+hugh curtis that the joke
J. Slugg w
If for some reason you’re reading this 5 years later, LSV references this match in one of his flashback challenges playing this deck. Ruben shouldn’t have emblemed Gideon because it cut off his Avacyn into 0 mana hanger back line, which would have won him the game I think? You can hear Ruben reference this in the after game talk with Luis. Super interesting gameplay.
"Wait. I'm on camera?...suppose I better start winning now." - Jon Finkel 2016
Miss having a good Standard. Sure CoCo was everywhere, but at least theres more than 3 decks playable.
Coco siege rhinos and dragon lord ojutai were everywhere
@@badvoodoo2097 look at these games though, CoCo could be taken in so many directions. I think Cat/Oven is similar and each deck is the same, sure sometimes green, sometimes mono black, but always just the same loop.
One of the best standard in recent years. Such sick decks and diversity.
COCO is such a diverse deck isn’t it?
The first two commentators were in Luis's lap so hard it was funny to see the turnout + reaction.
4:01 for those who want to hear the twitch remarks
Gaby is pure class
+pedestrianme I think you mean "Gaby is pure window dressing". diversity hire.
+Farnanonicall she's actually really good at Magic if you watch the Super League videos for standard she crushed it against some of the best player in the world
+Drew Perri that's probably because things kept recurring and there were a lot of lucky top decks lol
+Jeremy Vane-Tempest that isn't really relevant, it's not very articulate. A writer typically doesn't use the same word over and over to describe something and thus her commentating has been sub-par.
The White Knights are the real problem. People are complimenting her based on her looks and gender and defending her off those merits alone, sickening really,
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My one complaint is that she needs another b in her name. I don't make the rules. I just enforce them
I LOVE the deck lsv played!!!
how do you play ormendahl? it doesnt have any mana cost, also why do MTG players always shuffle their hand cards - does it make them look cool or why?
Well because ormendahl is a flip,card he dosent have any mana cost because he is a land but you have to pay five mama and sac 5 creatures to transform it. Also they shuffle so the cards they get are random and have fun
They might shuffle their hand because they are nervous and it might help. After all, they are being watched by a ton of people
+LiangHuBBB Ormendahl transforms from Westvale Abbey. Read that card. Also, blame Kibler for that habit.
+Stephan Wyrsta Also important, it's distracting and makes it look like you have lots of different routes to take. Even if you have two lands and an emrakul in hand, they don't know if you're wondering whether to bolt or drop a creature or none of those.
+Stephan Wyrsta I don't know if it's a nervous thing or is meant to help them "get in the zone." Humans are very ritualstic and think better when we do things to a sort of rhythm. It's sort of like pacing while thinking.
How much I miss this format :(
I wish this could come back.
They need to do a better job of displaying the cards that have been played. It would be very easy to do and it would make watching magic much more enjoyable.
The moment when Steve realised his mistake... I'm glad he won in the end! All the lines he figured out on this otherwise tough matchup show he is an amazing player!
29:15 "shit I mean..." i love it :"D
randy buehler and the female commentary were great.
she literally says her name at the beginning of the video
are we getting the other rounds as well the wrap up is up but the last 3 rounds aren't
Yay, Gaby is announcer! Sorry for the clichéd "I'm here for Gaby" comment. Also here to see LSV, so that balances it out!
How was Steve able to cast first Gideon game one without a second white source?
+Andrew Grisham Oath of Nissa allows any mana to be spent on planeswalkers.
+Dingus McGee riggggght. thanks.
How does indestructible work? They have to be put at negative toughness instead of 0 toughness?
no, effects that says "destroy" don't work on them, just this
federicobiondi431 and they can't be killed, they can only be removed if they are returned to hand, exiled, or have enough-1/-1 counters to take it to 0
I wish these tour matches were filmed like spellslingers with multiple angles, the top down view is a little annoying
how can you cast Gideon when you don't have 2 white sources during the first game?
never mind
oath of nissa
what was with the deck checks?
Luis' deck is so good. I wanna build that deck. :D
How Brad won the last Match?
Gaby's gpt a great voice for ASMR.
+PewPew_McPewster actually i find her girly-fake giggle super annoying and grating honestly
+Lawrence Chatfield I find your face super annoying and grating honestly.
+KaraoYoshi Expected reply for a womanizer!
What can I say, I'm Brittney Bitch. *cue music*
What is with these deck checks? It's really irritating.
People complain about the silliest things
so this are some thoughts if you are going to keep gaby on the coverage team then pair her up with randy and marshall BECAUSE i think the way they interact and also how their voices sound fit each other
as with ian and tim ... there voices are far to "deep" compared to randys or gabys
marshall is the exception to those 3 guys because his voice is real soft on the ear
just to clarify i do not dislike any commentator but i dislike some pairs because its sometimes hard to concentrate just because their voices kinda fight each other
maybe im the only one that thinks so but maybe its something you should consider
+Ic3dsoul I don't care much about the sound of their voices together, but I do think that commentators should have chemistry. LSV and Marshall have the best commentary partially for this reason. That's not to say that the chemistry is bad here; it's pretty good. But Ian and Gabby totally didn't work. Ian is way too serious and Gaby doesn't bring much comic relief.
+Ic3dsoul actually it's just that her voice is really annoying and it's ok to say that. we don't need to sugarcoat the fact that not only is her voice annoying but her lets try and be super cute giggly girl act gets old real quick. as evidenced above many fanboys love she's an attractive woman and that is enough to like her. but she is a terrible commentator comparatively and the "i'm a girl and cute giggle" just irks me the wrong way
Lawrence Chatfield
I don't mind her voice and didn't pick up on the "cute giggly girl" thing. But she hardly ever has anything of value to add to the conversation.
i actually dont think its a "cute girl" thing
she has the knowledge about the game and she does a good job but there is much room for improvement for sure im not denying that
maybe people just dont like some commentators thats fine but most of them are just too bitchy about it ...
+Lawrence Chatfield for fucks sake get a life, I saw your whiny comments about Gaby's voice in at least three commentary threads here
i am here for Gaby
I love Finkel's board organization, or lack of. LOOK AT ALL MY CARDS.
So funny to see everyone surprised at all the planeswalkers Seth had, now in 2020 with Newman fires, super friends :)
yes i can go to a second g/b aristocrats deck with my meren edh deck
Poor Rubin if he has not ultimate his Gideon first he could have one with avacyn and hangerback
Wow this aristocrats deck looks awesome
I've tested against this B/G deck a lot on magic online. The tactic seems to be just to reduce the number of their creatures. Play into the removal you have.
+ScrapperTBP Secret tech for company against the aristocrats deck: Displacement Wave.
Vaerthelmn 52 Well they can just vomit their hand back out. Especially with Rites. But I guess that sets them back a few terms. My deck is a Naya midrange deck so Displacement Wave is not in my colours I'm afraid.
+ScrapperTBP Radiant Flames sounds good for you. Have you considered it?
Vaerthelmn 52 Yep I have 3 in the sideboard though that is mainly there for humans to sure up and already good matchup. You have to be careful with it against this deck though and honestly I am not sure you should bring it in. Firstly Cutthroats mean you take a tonne from sweepers anyway. And husk can easily outgrow it.
+ScrapperTBP It still forces the opponent's hand, making them sac creatures when they otherwise wouldn't have. Not saying its amazing, but probably fine.
Haven't followed MTG in a few years... Really never thought I'd see a hot chick commentating.
You haven’t known real fear until you’ve faced Jon Finkel casting demonic tutor!
wow that first game was crazy, that last turn was almost anmie-esque :D
"Hand Card Swapping" must be a magic player syndrom ...
Anyone else notice that Steve shouldn't have been able to cast Gideon off of his "1" white land game 1?
+brokenswmr Timestamp?
+brokenswmr there is this card called oath of nissa ... and it appears it has a planeswalker related ability
+brokenswmr Oath of Nissa lets him get around that
Ooooh, Truth
+brokenswmr lsv comments that at 4:00
at 41:02 " dose Jon's deck has languish?" ahaha come on WIZARDS have you run out of commenter?
I definitely heard "have." I think you misheard.
+Jinming Huang what are you talking about?...
+The Comedy Bros. no she was asking randy if jon has languish in his deck.
+Ic3dsoul U dont get it? I just cant believe a profession commenter in pro tour dosent know one of most important card in a 11-1 players deck given that the deck has already showed on camera many times on day one. I hope now u know what I am talking
+Jinming Huang no i m not ... she doesnt need to know every 75 of every player in the hall...
Nice Gideon casting :D
oath of nissa fixes nana?
+Connor Mccutcheon mana*
+Ohayoo96 When he did that, you can hear Luis saying "I guarantee you Twitch chat is asking why he can cast Gideon with that mana"
+ladyrosie parks oh haha
When?
Ladies and gentlemen magic players of all ages please take note of how a professional magic players hands should be during a match, folded and calmly on the table not flicking through his cards or shuffling like an OCD person had a baby with an A.D.D person.
I was just going to comment that I had to stop watching after a few minutes, because they were both actually doing exactly that. Watch guy on right starting at 4:22 for over a minute, which is where I had to stop the video to keep my sanity.
I realize that this is two years old, but I flick my cards as I play because I am ADHD and it helps me to focus on the game.
So when Randy wonders why doesnt Brad go for planeswalkers with his World Breaker , but white mana sources instead, don't trust him and just RTFC (exiles artifact, enchantment or land). That would also explain why he scoops the very next turn: Narset ultimate and he can't cast non creature spells like Goggles and Fall of the Titans... It's rather lame that a hall of fame member focuses more on the results from other tables than the actual board state or player's strategy, that's what I'd like to hear from the commentators!
Watanabe in the backround haha...oh how things have changed.
yuuya the cheeta
Oath of Nissa.
Gaby rules
Why does Gaby's vocabulary only include words such as "rumble" and "off the top"? I swear to God, every time she talks, she mentions "rumble" or "off the top", she needs to expand her vocabulary. Like, every time someone attacked, she's saying "oh, he will RUMBLE for 2"...bitch, this isn't WrestleMania.
Other than that, I guess she's trying to improve, so it's all good. Just, for the love of God, improve your vocabulary, it's like you're an elementary school level English speaker.
She's one fine little lady though....! :-)
To think that she and LSV ended up together... Go, LSV! :-D
@@MrFloppyHare fking wut? im sure he is holding her hostage then
Gaby :)
oh look its yuuya the cheeta
YUKIO!!!! COLOMBIA REPRESENT! haha
How does a hall of fame player not realize that Gideon cant be played on 1 white mana?
There's an Oath of Nissa?
+Jake Smith Oath of Nissa
+Jake Smith Look it up
3 words. Oath. Of. Nissa.
+Jake Smith Oath of Nissa
She can barely say a sentence without making a mistake. So cringe, even 4 yrs later.
omg i didnt know magic the gathering was a real card game, I thought it was only some shitty dirty asshole rigged online game.
Lol.
Who would ever spend money on such a stupid fucking game. The owners can't even make a randomized shuffler, I'd ber embarassed to tell anyone I've spent real money on such a shit stupid game.
BG Aristocrats is way to boring. :/ Sry to say this.
+OffiChan play to win. better than shuffling 100 times in a match :P
Yeah, maybe.^^
It's great. What is exciting to watch in your mind?
First of all a Deck which isn't the 1.000 copy of a Deck. I mean where are the creativ ideas? Something special, a kind of the Seasons Past-Deck. But no, everytime it's just a copy of an another deck. Sry for my bad english. xD
***** the SOI top 8 consists of 8 unique decks. There are no copies whatsoever. Every match we watch tomorrow will be between two distinct decks.
So I have to disagree with your complaint about copies and a lack of creative ideas. And your English is perfectly reasonable. I understand it just fine.
Too not to, though.
Whoever the girl announcer is, remove her. She is literally just saying what is happening, which is partly what an announcer does, but doesn't put much input which is half to all. Usually good game announcers announces possibilities like two steps ahead or at least goes on to fun topics or tries to make it entertaining. She sounds like she's a golf announcer.
Awful to watch have no idea what cards they are playing, i'll stick to mtg arena
I mean... They do show the cards on the side.
LSV's deck is powerful and relatively cheap. Just need the Liliana's, and Collected Company. Just awesome!