I like how on top of getting an overpowered Tentacruel to sweep the game with, this also skips any further Exp gain messages and LvUps during battles, likely saving lots of time over the classic Mudkip route.
I was wondering why someone hadn't calc'd the min level needed to one shot practically everything to save time. But that makes sense. I wonder how much time that saves. Like, compared to being level 99.
@@DeadgyeProbably a decent amount since the time spent buying one extra mail and doing the glitch one extra time, plus using one more rare candy, probably is faster than the experience gain and level up screens by a bit.
@@DeadgyeThis also eliminates any rng factors regarding battles as well. Since simply being able to step on anything versus being just strong enough to get by wont let you get cheesed by things like random stat drops, misses, or critical hits. Im also sure using a move like acid (40pp) to wipe everything saves tons of time in recovery as well since you can use it more often than a move like surf which has only 15 pp
This glitch was somewhat well known in the Japanese community since the mail glitch was much easier to activate in Japanese games. It got patched for all other languages and its so cool to see how people found a way around the patch by thieving their own pokemon! With more people being aware of this, I wonder what else might be found?
That's impossible. If Ruby and Sapphire, the premier pokemon games of my childhood, are decades old, then that would make me an old man, and I... oh... oh god. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@@literallygrass1328it is R/S released November 21, 2002 in Japan, March 19, 2003 in North America, April 3, 2003 in Australia, and July 25, 2003 in Europe Ruby and Sapphire is two decades old.
@@1manApocalypse_CP tentacruel also good in like cythina run as well lol. since u can abuse the glitch and get a level 40 tentacruel lol. also its a really good pokemon. and if u want to train special def tentacool is a way to go. pretty tenta-cool yes?
They aren't. They do something called planning. For one thing, you know you need at least 65 Harbor mail for the 65 Rare Candies that Tentacruel needs to get to level 100. They didn't discover this by buying 81 Harbor Mail, they discovered it by seeing that using Thief on Mail leads to a memory error (data where it shouldn't be). After that you use your brain.
It’s likely a stack smashing or readpass memory error. Once you’re looking at the memory you can find them if you know what you’re doing. From there you can find which parts of memory actions would write into then start identifying what memory you want written where. It’s a hack in the most true sense of the word.
The specific amount of mail really doesn't matter too much, we just need a lot to make all the rare candies. But the action of equipping mail and thiefing it was definitely very crazy!
there are fan projects to analyze and decompile the GBA games' code. my guess is someone spotted this oversight while digging through how mail works, and that made its way to the speedrunning community
Huge thanks to Pulse for putting these new glitches in the spotlight! This video honestly explained these glitches better than I ever could, so I'm super happy to see it presented in such a cool way. If anyone has any questions about the details of these glitches, or even has any ideas about how to use these glitches for the speedrun, please feel free to ask me through the links in the description! I love experimenting with this stuff, so I'd love to help more people get into the world of Ruby/Sapphire glitches.
@Anonymous7056 Thanks so much! Credit where credit is due, glitch hunters like Chickasaurus (and many others) found the fundamentals of this glitch way earlier. The discovery of the glitch on the English version, figuring out the version differences, and the Tentacool strat were all brand new and really exciting though!
If I'm understanding correctly and thieving the mail is writing to the memory just outside of the memory normally allocated to mail, and so you can only change the tiles which happen to be within that extra memory - then could you thief multiple pieces of mail to access more memory and potentially gain access to the waterfall, or is that not how it works? Awesome work, by the way. Glitches like this are the pinnacle of what makes speedrunning so awesome. It's great to see some more weirdness added to the run
@evilduck5691 That's what I hoped would happen at first; unfortunately the technical details behind the glitch prevent that. Normally the game determines the section of memory based on each Pokemon's 'mail slot', which is usually 0 through 5, or 255 when it isn't holding a mail. When we activate the glitch, we can equip a mail but keep the value of 255 for the mail slot. If we could change this value from 255 to anything else, we could corrupt basically any tiles we want! But there's currently no known way to do this.
Just confirmed that this does work. I used my Sapphire game which was already post elite four. I used this to get infinite rare candies. This will work on any double battle like Gabby & Ty and if youre planning to duplicate Thief tm or just dont have it, you can level up Mightyena or Lombre who can learn it. You can change the Thief users held item if you want to clone something else, basically youre trading mail for the cloned item
@@johnmartinez7440There's the Gabby and Ty pair that cycle from north of Mauville, to east of Mauville, to east of Fortree, back to Mauville. I used them to grind for cash and EXP as a kid. Other than that, there's the Jr&Sr pairs that can be rematched via the Trainer Eyes system. If you do any breeding, there's a set just south of the Daycare who you can check every few passes. There's another set west of Fallarbor and one by the Safari Zone, though I don't think they reset. I think there's also a set of Twins that you can rematch, though I don't remember which ones it is.
Okay if mail gets mentioned I have to pitch this idea: Mail could make a comeback and since so many types of mail exist, it’d be cool if the mail would change the type or effect of some moves such as delibirds present or some effects on pelipper
The sad thing about tentacruel is that it was originally designed to be a monster In Gen1 it's the water pokemon with the highest Spe Atk, and he also has a great speed. And for the adventure the poison type is a great comfort as it resist a lot of opponent and poison. Only two weakness : weak to the overpowered (in gen1) psy type, and slow growth rate meaning very slow to train so an other incentive to ignore him. Beside tentacool being the zubat of water. Then in Gen2, special was split and he lost 35 SpA without any benefit. That's a crazy nerf..
@@ryomaanime4563Tentacruel in Stadium was a pain in the arse. Very fast and could absorb all Special damage quite easily. Ground types could take it out, but Tentacruel could take them out first. I'm sure Werster used a Tentacruel in his Platinum speedruns because it was relatively easy to catch a high level one while Surfing.
Kinda glad Tentacool/Tentacruel gets to be the one used for the speedrun, the Pokémon line is pretty cool and so being cemented in speedrunning history like this is a great thing for them.
@@ashryver7992 It's kind of wild that there are now *two* Pokemon games where the fastest route involves glitching into the water early and bodying the rest of the game with an overlevelled Tentacruel.
I remember I booted up Ruby on my DS and there was some weird tile corruption in the PC after I caught Latios. Then again I also remember there was a glitch that caused tile corruption in the Pokemon School as well. Such weird programming mistakes.
That Pokemon School Tile corruption glitch is a known glitch. Might be Emerald only and involves viewing certain PC boxes or something. Not sure about Latios. Could be a random glitch? I got something weird on my Sapphire when viewing the PC. I chalked it up to dirty pin connectors since I didn't do anything unusual.
Oh, this is probably a sister glitch to the Trick Mail glitch. Where you put mail on a Pokémon that knows Trick, Trick the mail on to an opponent in battle, rinse and repeat till the tile corruption kicks in. This was in the first wave or two of Ruby & Sapphire before getting patched well before international release. But if this Harbor Mail thing works in the international versions, then does it also work in Emerald?
Yep! The reason this works on English is because although Trick cannot steal mail, Thief and Covet still can (which was honestly the biggest discovery). I've heard there is also a way to activate the glitch on Emerald, but it involves the Pomeg Glitch since normally you can't steal mail at all in Emerald. It supposedly also corrupts different data in Emerald (PC data instead of map data).
Surely it doesn’t actually need to be level 100 though, right? Really cool to see new glitches being discovered so long after the game’s release though!
@@PaulDkthat’s a good point, probably more of a time save than most would think bc people from the getgo have used small names for small but eventually big time saves
How do people come up with this stuff... it never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for the report, Pulse! Can't wait to see how this will evolve in the future!
I don't know if this helped for this specific bug, but some people have been working on Decompile projects of certain Pokemon games, that is, they converted the binary code of the game back into a human-readable scripting language. That can definitely help discovering some flaws in the game or figuring out how exactly some bugs work and see how much you can abuse them.
if you've done a bunch of programming, at least low level programming like c/asm, places where the player can enter info like player/pokemon names, the mail contents, etc, tend to stick out a bit as something you might be able to mess with :) not super uncommon for things like that to have some kind of issue allowing you to edit memory you're not supposed to be able to. bit similar to being able to scroll past the cancel button in RBY bag and edit memory.
My current run on RUclips is about 90 seconds faster than the glitchless record, but it can go a lot lower with a good run. I think a good glitched run can be about 5 minutes faster than the glitchless record!
Absolutely crazy - am I correct to assume thar you can write arbitary values to memory using this glitch? If that's the case, it's only a matter of time until someone figures out an ACE glitch as well.
I'm actually surprised this didn't get discovered and implemented into runs sooner, considering the sheer determination and dedication of the speedrunning community.
Imagine youre some person watching the player buy 81 letters , giving them to abra and snatching it 64 times , walking in the ocean and coming back with a level 100 tentacruel
I wrote a little summary of the technical details here: docs.google.com/document/d/1TFgMWHzHSufb0QIUnqSB4oVaYq2V0Yh7R-8nxanCqWk/edit Maybe I'll make a full video explaining the details of the code at some point!
I accidentally performed a tile corruption when I was like 11 years old. (I'm 24 now) I don't remember what I did, but I remember seeing a roof in the trees directly south of the daycare. I could not get to it, I had no idea why they were there, and since I was unable to recreate the event I just moved on with my life. The funniest thing was that I had 2 GBA systems, a link cable, 2 Gen 3 Hoenn games, and more importantly I loved exploring the many experiences the game could offer. I even messed around with mail a bunch when I was younger, so maybe this is what happened!
always a treat seeing a new video covering some sort of ridiculous pokemon bug! love hearing the trauma center music at the very end too, it's nice to see some love for that series's incredible soundtrack! godspeed in your endeavors :)
@@BluMagma7 I'm sure the Discord has already discussed it, but would it save any time over just using a PC to dupe stuff like HP/PP recovery? Like, buy the first round of mail, create a bunch of nuggets and sell them, buy a bunch more mail, create a fat stack of Elixirs and Rare Candies, then do your Grand Tour.
@@robotbootyhunter6878 We honestly don't need any healing items for this route since level 100 just sweeps the game without many issues! The newest optimization now skips the only two healing items we picked up, which were a Full Heal and a Max Elixir. It would be really nice for a Catch 'em All speedrun though, since you're able to dupe Master Balls and any evolution items you might need.
overleveled pokemon speedruns reminds me of when i was a kid playing sapphire for the first time and I had no idea how to get through the cave in dewford and by the time i figured it out my mudkip was a swampert
Im extremely curious about that new tile corruption glitch. I wanna know how far we can push that glitch, and if its possible to even further behond the tiles, and corrupt other things as well.
For a little bit of the video, i wondered why you'd go all the way to 100 rather than cutting it off at a lower level to save time, but i assume it's too avoid ever gaining exp again, which would save a lot of time in the rest of the run.
Welp, I guess that means that all first 4 Pokémon Gens had a way of altering the game's code from within the game itself. This officially gives the title of the least glitchy Pokémon games to Gen 5 without any contest... for now anyway. Wait until they figure out you can rewrite stuff using the Prop Case used in Musicals or something.
Gen 3 already had it with Emerald's infamous Pomeg Berry glitch (which is far more powerful than the Mail glitch, allowing you modify basically any memory you want, and is used to warp to the hall of fame)
@@dudono1744 I'm not sure, but considering you can literally unload parts of the map by just biking too fast on certain tiles and stuff like that, I certainly wouldn't call them stable.
@@DJFracus Usually I write entire essays' worth of comments to make sure I get every last detail, but this time I said "screw it" because I've just been "TL;DR" one too many times. My point was that Gen 5 doesn't have world-altering glitches nor memory editing, and its engine's performance is perfectly stable, unlike the following games. Therefore, Game Freak devs have always been hilarious bad with programming since the beginning, peaked in Gen 5, then went downhill again. That's all there is to it. Doesn't make the games bad or anything. Do people think all Bethesda games are bad, after all? I guess I could throw in even more hot takes to farm even more comments interactions for PulseEffects, but I'm feeling too lazy to manage all that right now. I hope he'll forgive me.
In the older generations (including gen 3), only Pokemon from trades will ignore orders. So the speedrun actually has very minimal RNG after you get tentacruel!
I believe that there are old routes for some of the glitched gen 1 categories which involved level-100 Pokemon. Although the method of reaching level 100 was different - rather than force-feeding a bunch of duped Rare Candies, you could actually use glitches to make your Pokemon have negative experience, which caused it to underflow to level 100.
@@alexpotts6520 yes I know this glitch but the community know the warp glitch first which makes the exp underflow within an any% speedrun useless. So no one had make it.
Zigzagoon is my all-time favorite Pokemon, partly due to nostalgia (Ruby was my first Pokemon game), and partly due to Pickup. What a wonderful little niche my furry bandit has found!
I thought Emerald was the only extremely broken Gen 3 game with the bad egg glitching. This doesn’t beat being able to create any pokemon, but it’s definitely breaking it much earlier.
Pokemon, the Game that tells you "don't be a thief" if you throw a pokeball in a pokemon trainer battle but rewards you with a lv. 100 tentacool and a lot of rare candies if you commit theft
Being able to edit memory is always the most powerful bug. I wonder if it's possible to use this to change things that aren't the map. For instance your pokemon's level or what your pokemon is,
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i fucking love massive glitch discoveries, tears an old game right open!
Like nut jump in SMO or basically anything in SMO😂
But I agree it’s so fun as a speed runner to see something new and huge
imagine being the guy who cracked the code to catch mew in gen 1. seriously, how tf do you figure that out?
@@jacencade4019 or the dude who discovered darkri glitch
I like how on top of getting an overpowered Tentacruel to sweep the game with, this also skips any further Exp gain messages and LvUps during battles, likely saving lots of time over the classic Mudkip route.
I was wondering why someone hadn't calc'd the min level needed to one shot practically everything to save time. But that makes sense. I wonder how much time that saves. Like, compared to being level 99.
@@DeadgyeProbably a decent amount since the time spent buying one extra mail and doing the glitch one extra time, plus using one more rare candy, probably is faster than the experience gain and level up screens by a bit.
@@DeadgyeThis also eliminates any rng factors regarding battles as well. Since simply being able to step on anything versus being just strong enough to get by wont let you get cheesed by things like random stat drops, misses, or critical hits. Im also sure using a move like acid (40pp) to wipe everything saves tons of time in recovery as well since you can use it more often than a move like surf which has only 15 pp
This glitch was somewhat well known in the Japanese community since the mail glitch was much easier to activate in Japanese games. It got patched for all other languages and its so cool to see how people found a way around the patch by thieving their own pokemon!
With more people being aware of this, I wonder what else might be found?
i wonder if those TV interviews could be overflowed some how
Insane how they just discovered this in 2023 decades after the game came out
That's impossible. If Ruby and Sapphire, the premier pokemon games of my childhood, are decades old, then that would make me an old man, and I... oh... oh god. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@@TheMadJellyfish i mean technically its not decades yet
@@literallygrass1328it is
R/S released November 21, 2002 in Japan, March 19, 2003 in North America, April 3, 2003 in Australia, and July 25, 2003 in Europe
Ruby and Sapphire is two decades old.
@@literallygrass1328it’s been over 20 years, it is “decades”
@@literallygrass1328i dont think you know what "technically" and "decade" means lol
Most Trainers: “God I am so sick of Tentacool, I wish they didn’t exist.”
May: “I can give you purpose.”
"What is my purpose?"
"To beat the game in a speedrun after your fellow pokemon commit federal crimes by stealing and abusing mail."
"Oh my god."
@@1manApocalypse_CP"yeah, welcome to the club."
oh my...
@@1manApocalypse_CPnot to mention the illegal performance enhancing candy and breaking a person's fence.
@@1manApocalypse_CP tentacruel also good in like cythina run as well lol. since u can abuse the glitch and get a level 40 tentacruel lol. also its a really good pokemon. and if u want to train special def tentacool is a way to go. pretty tenta-cool yes?
Stealing mail is a felony, but luckily, it created the perfect getaway route
Man, who is doing EVERY possible action at EVERY point in the game to discover this by specifically buying 81 Harbor mail!?
They aren't. They do something called planning. For one thing, you know you need at least 65 Harbor mail for the 65 Rare Candies that Tentacruel needs to get to level 100.
They didn't discover this by buying 81 Harbor Mail, they discovered it by seeing that using Thief on Mail leads to a memory error (data where it shouldn't be). After that you use your brain.
It’s likely a stack smashing or readpass memory error. Once you’re looking at the memory you can find them if you know what you’re doing. From there you can find which parts of memory actions would write into then start identifying what memory you want written where. It’s a hack in the most true sense of the word.
The specific amount of mail really doesn't matter too much, we just need a lot to make all the rare candies. But the action of equipping mail and thiefing it was definitely very crazy!
there are fan projects to analyze and decompile the GBA games' code. my guess is someone spotted this oversight while digging through how mail works, and that made its way to the speedrunning community
Buying 81 specifically doesn't do anything. He bought 81 cause it's how many he needs to do the glitch and then get Cool to 100.
Huge thanks to Pulse for putting these new glitches in the spotlight! This video honestly explained these glitches better than I ever could, so I'm super happy to see it presented in such a cool way. If anyone has any questions about the details of these glitches, or even has any ideas about how to use these glitches for the speedrun, please feel free to ask me through the links in the description! I love experimenting with this stuff, so I'd love to help more people get into the world of Ruby/Sapphire glitches.
Awesome find dude, this kind of stuff is really mind blowing. I can only imagine how hype it must have been when you realized what you found!
@Anonymous7056 Thanks so much! Credit where credit is due, glitch hunters like Chickasaurus (and many others) found the fundamentals of this glitch way earlier. The discovery of the glitch on the English version, figuring out the version differences, and the Tentacool strat were all brand new and really exciting though!
If I'm understanding correctly and thieving the mail is writing to the memory just outside of the memory normally allocated to mail, and so you can only change the tiles which happen to be within that extra memory - then could you thief multiple pieces of mail to access more memory and potentially gain access to the waterfall, or is that not how it works?
Awesome work, by the way. Glitches like this are the pinnacle of what makes speedrunning so awesome. It's great to see some more weirdness added to the run
@evilduck5691 That's what I hoped would happen at first; unfortunately the technical details behind the glitch prevent that. Normally the game determines the section of memory based on each Pokemon's 'mail slot', which is usually 0 through 5, or 255 when it isn't holding a mail. When we activate the glitch, we can equip a mail but keep the value of 255 for the mail slot. If we could change this value from 255 to anything else, we could corrupt basically any tiles we want! But there's currently no known way to do this.
@@BluMagma7 ah, very interesting
Just confirmed that this does work. I used my Sapphire game which was already post elite four. I used this to get infinite rare candies. This will work on any double battle like Gabby & Ty and if youre planning to duplicate Thief tm or just dont have it, you can level up Mightyena or Lombre who can learn it. You can change the Thief users held item if you want to clone something else, basically youre trading mail for the cloned item
Didn't realise there were any postgame double battles.
@@johnmartinez7440There's the Gabby and Ty pair that cycle from north of Mauville, to east of Mauville, to east of Fortree, back to Mauville. I used them to grind for cash and EXP as a kid.
Other than that, there's the Jr&Sr pairs that can be rematched via the Trainer Eyes system. If you do any breeding, there's a set just south of the Daycare who you can check every few passes. There's another set west of Fallarbor and one by the Safari Zone, though I don't think they reset.
I think there's also a set of Twins that you can rematch, though I don't remember which ones it is.
**Grabs mail** **world starts folding in on its self**
Random ass Tentacool: My time has come.
The fact that people are still finding new stuff to break in older Pokemon games (or just games in general) for speedrunning is just amazing.
Okay if mail gets mentioned I have to pitch this idea: Mail could make a comeback and since so many types of mail exist, it’d be cool if the mail would change the type or effect of some moves such as delibirds present or some effects on pelipper
Writing the message "Delibird Sucks" turns Present into a base 250 power move.
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always love seeing how overlooked pokemon find ways to be useful in speedruns, great stuff pulse!
The sad thing about tentacruel is that it was originally designed to be a monster
In Gen1 it's the water pokemon with the highest Spe Atk, and he also has a great speed. And for the adventure the poison type is a great comfort as it resist a lot of opponent and poison. Only two weakness : weak to the overpowered (in gen1) psy type, and slow growth rate meaning very slow to train so an other incentive to ignore him.
Beside tentacool being the zubat of water.
Then in Gen2, special was split and he lost 35 SpA without any benefit. That's a crazy nerf..
@@ryomaanime4563Tentacruel in Stadium was a pain in the arse. Very fast and could absorb all Special damage quite easily. Ground types could take it out, but Tentacruel could take them out first.
I'm sure Werster used a Tentacruel in his Platinum speedruns because it was relatively easy to catch a high level one while Surfing.
It makes me smile any time I hear the SM64 File Select theme underneath an explanation of game tech
An A press is
I'm not even gonna finish you all know how the saying goes
Idk why it always reminds me of zoo tycoon lol
Kinda glad Tentacool/Tentacruel gets to be the one used for the speedrun, the Pokémon line is pretty cool and so being cemented in speedrunning history like this is a great thing for them.
Tentacruel is actually used in some any% Platinum speedruns, but yeah it is always neat to see.
@@ashryver7992 It's kind of wild that there are now *two* Pokemon games where the fastest route involves glitching into the water early and bodying the rest of the game with an overlevelled Tentacruel.
And this is why stealing mail is a felony offense.
I love how the planets aligned so that Abra could hold a letter with written Abra on it to to to perform magic on the game
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Just imagine that shopkeepers face when some kid comes in and asks for 81 pieces of mail out of nowhere
Gen 3 speedrunners: You've got mail!
I remember I booted up Ruby on my DS and there was some weird tile corruption in the PC after I caught Latios. Then again I also remember there was a glitch that caused tile corruption in the Pokemon School as well. Such weird programming mistakes.
That Pokemon School Tile corruption glitch is a known glitch. Might be Emerald only and involves viewing certain PC boxes or something.
Not sure about Latios. Could be a random glitch? I got something weird on my Sapphire when viewing the PC. I chalked it up to dirty pin connectors since I didn't do anything unusual.
In order to perform the glitch, you must first invite everyone BUT Abra to Super Smash Bros.
Crazy that such gamebreaking bugs are discovered over 20 years later
Oh, this is probably a sister glitch to the Trick Mail glitch. Where you put mail on a Pokémon that knows Trick, Trick the mail on to an opponent in battle, rinse and repeat till the tile corruption kicks in. This was in the first wave or two of Ruby & Sapphire before getting patched well before international release.
But if this Harbor Mail thing works in the international versions, then does it also work in Emerald?
Yep! The reason this works on English is because although Trick cannot steal mail, Thief and Covet still can (which was honestly the biggest discovery). I've heard there is also a way to activate the glitch on Emerald, but it involves the Pomeg Glitch since normally you can't steal mail at all in Emerald. It supposedly also corrupts different data in Emerald (PC data instead of map data).
@@BluMagma7 Good to know, thanks for the input.
Clear Body skipping the Intimidate animation is just a perfect Speedrun concept
Surely it doesn’t actually need to be level 100 though, right? Really cool to see new glitches being discovered so long after the game’s release though!
inb4 you run at like level 90 with risk of losing to steven just to save 10 seconds
Being level 100 skips the 'gained 120 exp' text after every battle, I assume level 100 may be not even slower
@@PaulDk ah that explains why
@@PaulDk Fair enough, didn't think of that
@@PaulDkthat’s a good point, probably more of a time save than most would think bc people from the getgo have used small names for small but eventually big time saves
Thats the beauty of speedrunning. People innovating games even after they've been out for over a decade or longer.
How do people come up with this stuff... it never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for the report, Pulse! Can't wait to see how this will evolve in the future!
I don't know if this helped for this specific bug, but some people have been working on Decompile projects of certain Pokemon games, that is, they converted the binary code of the game back into a human-readable scripting language. That can definitely help discovering some flaws in the game or figuring out how exactly some bugs work and see how much you can abuse them.
Cliche question, but I really would liked this video to include information on the discovery of this new glitch.
if you've done a bunch of programming, at least low level programming like c/asm, places where the player can enter info like player/pokemon names, the mail contents, etc, tend to stick out a bit as something you might be able to mess with :)
not super uncommon for things like that to have some kind of issue allowing you to edit memory you're not supposed to be able to. bit similar to being able to scroll past the cancel button in RBY bag and edit memory.
@@MrCheeze Love your stuff! Any plans to do anything TAS-related with this glitch? Great that you're still around anyhow!
@@Sherkel Not likely, but I am interesting in knowing more about to what extent the glitch possibilities have been fully explored.
Abra is not a teleporter he's a WHOLE CANDY FACTORY
This is so huge, it's like when they discovered that secondary effects of moves don't proc on pokemon of the same type in RBY
The Super Mario 64 music feels like a lovely nod to the "Watch Out for Rolling Rocks" glitch video for speed running.
aw i wish you had mentioned how much faster it is as of the time of recording
It probably isn't faster yet, this is so knew people are gonna have to route it I'm assuming
The eng any% record recently beat the glitchless record by like 1 1/2 minutes (I think it’s a mid 1:55)
My current run on RUclips is about 90 seconds faster than the glitchless record, but it can go a lot lower with a good run. I think a good glitched run can be about 5 minutes faster than the glitchless record!
*first sentence*
Pomeg berry & glitzer popping: am i a joke to you?
Absolutely crazy - am I correct to assume thar you can write arbitary values to memory using this glitch? If that's the case, it's only a matter of time until someone figures out an ACE glitch as well.
I'm actually surprised this didn't get discovered and implemented into runs sooner, considering the sheer determination and dedication of the speedrunning community.
Imagine youre some person watching the player buy 81 letters , giving them to abra and snatching it 64 times , walking in the ocean and coming back with a level 100 tentacruel
This is really insane. Finding new glitches in these old games is awesome
This has become one of the few channels where I'm always waiting on content to be released. You've been putting out some great stuff Pulse!
The amount of crazy glitches in Hoenn never fails to impress me. We got berries, pokéblocks, Decamarks, and now this crazy stuff.
Okay, now I need one of the "explain how the code works and why the glitch happens" channels to explain what the heck is happening here
I wrote a little summary of the technical details here: docs.google.com/document/d/1TFgMWHzHSufb0QIUnqSB4oVaYq2V0Yh7R-8nxanCqWk/edit
Maybe I'll make a full video explaining the details of the code at some point!
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Damn mailman in that uni has the hardest job!! 😂😂
I love pokemon ruby. I grew up on it as a kid and seeing the fact the game is still being destroyed just as i did as a kid makes my heart warm :)
Zigzagoon's pickup ability is just as useful as ever. Never leave home without it.
Always love glitches that abuse memory manipulation. My favorite is the one in PM TTYD :D
I accidentally performed a tile corruption when I was like 11 years old. (I'm 24 now)
I don't remember what I did, but I remember seeing a roof in the trees directly south of the daycare. I could not get to it, I had no idea why they were there, and since I was unable to recreate the event I just moved on with my life.
The funniest thing was that I had 2 GBA systems, a link cable, 2 Gen 3 Hoenn games, and more importantly I loved exploring the many experiences the game could offer. I even messed around with mail a bunch when I was younger, so maybe this is what happened!
As soon as I'm able I'll be firing up my old ruby cart to attempt this myself. This is insanely cool stuff!
Such a goofy and simple oversight, not surprised it took so long to be discovered but it's a welcome addition :b
This is absolutely inSANE, jeez.
The first time I played Ruby as a child I couldn’t find where Steven was and I tried and tried to figure out if I could use the mail to ask him lol
always a treat seeing a new video covering some sort of ridiculous pokemon bug! love hearing the trauma center music at the very end too, it's nice to see some love for that series's incredible soundtrack! godspeed in your endeavors :)
Can you clone other stuff besides rare candy? Could be a fun trick to use in a casual playthrough of the game to get unlimited tm moves or something
Yep! You can clone any item as long as you can equip it to a Pokemon.
@@BluMagma7 I'm sure the Discord has already discussed it, but would it save any time over just using a PC to dupe stuff like HP/PP recovery? Like, buy the first round of mail, create a bunch of nuggets and sell them, buy a bunch more mail, create a fat stack of Elixirs and Rare Candies, then do your Grand Tour.
@@robotbootyhunter6878 We honestly don't need any healing items for this route since level 100 just sweeps the game without many issues! The newest optimization now skips the only two healing items we picked up, which were a Full Heal and a Max Elixir. It would be really nice for a Catch 'em All speedrun though, since you're able to dupe Master Balls and any evolution items you might need.
It’s almost too crazy and specific for it to be real. But things can be funny like that sometimes.
Bismuth left a lasting impression, it seems. x)
That is one heccing random glitch... Really enjoyed the explanation too!
Who knew that useless piece of mail in my bag can break reality as much as that berry that I don't have
Absolute banger of a video as always, Pulse! Been loving your content you've been putting out this year. Always gonna keep supporting you. Keep it up!
Now I hope someone uses it with a TAS for that perfect run.
overleveled pokemon speedruns reminds me of when i was a kid playing sapphire for the first time and I had no idea how to get through the cave in dewford and by the time i figured it out my mudkip was a swampert
Petition to name this “the mail fraud glitch”
Imagine tile corrupting the door to the hall of fame or something idk.
Im extremely curious about that new tile corruption glitch. I wanna know how far we can push that glitch, and if its possible to even further behond the tiles, and corrupt other things as well.
Thumbnail is just stellar work. Glitched zigzagoon really nailes it!
I'll always be in awe of how people discover stuff like this.
So proud to have been born mail
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Looking forward to seeing how this technique & its use develops!
For a little bit of the video, i wondered why you'd go all the way to 100 rather than cutting it off at a lower level to save time, but i assume it's too avoid ever gaining exp again, which would save a lot of time in the rest of the run.
Alternate title: Abra commits mail fraud
The tile corruption is a new thing, but the Rare Candy Duplication method is something I’ve already known thanks to Japanese Ruby and Sapphire
*starts humming the mail song from blues clues to self*
Nice to see a move that is literally called ACID be powrful in Pokémon 😅
Wow, this is insane. Cant wait for the cool things that can come out of this.
I found this out when I was a kid. Never really thought much of it.
I appreciate the Fate/Extra music in the background. Nice video!
It's so cool when these glitches get discovered several years after the game's launch! Love that english ruby sapphire now have major glitches too!
Interesting how both the Pokémon Abra and the word Abra help in this glitch
Welp, I guess that means that all first 4 Pokémon Gens had a way of altering the game's code from within the game itself. This officially gives the title of the least glitchy Pokémon games to Gen 5 without any contest... for now anyway. Wait until they figure out you can rewrite stuff using the Prop Case used in Musicals or something.
Gen 3 already had it with Emerald's infamous Pomeg Berry glitch (which is far more powerful than the Mail glitch, allowing you modify basically any memory you want, and is used to warp to the hall of fame)
There is ACE in gen4 now ?
@@dudono1744 I'm not sure, but considering you can literally unload parts of the map by just biking too fast on certain tiles and stuff like that, I certainly wouldn't call them stable.
Yeah I wasn't sure what you meant by gen 4, but the void glitch isn't editing memory either.
@@DJFracus Usually I write entire essays' worth of comments to make sure I get every last detail, but this time I said "screw it" because I've just been "TL;DR" one too many times. My point was that Gen 5 doesn't have world-altering glitches nor memory editing, and its engine's performance is perfectly stable, unlike the following games. Therefore, Game Freak devs have always been hilarious bad with programming since the beginning, peaked in Gen 5, then went downhill again. That's all there is to it. Doesn't make the games bad or anything. Do people think all Bethesda games are bad, after all? I guess I could throw in even more hot takes to farm even more comments interactions for PulseEffects, but I'm feeling too lazy to manage all that right now. I hope he'll forgive me.
how much luck is involved with the tentacruel not ignoring orders
In the older generations (including gen 3), only Pokemon from trades will ignore orders. So the speedrun actually has very minimal RNG after you get tentacruel!
Got to appreciate the craziness & absurdity of speed running
Actually the one and only speedrun with a Lvl 100 Pokémon in the team. Insane. I am speechless... This is incredible!
I believe that there are old routes for some of the glitched gen 1 categories which involved level-100 Pokemon. Although the method of reaching level 100 was different - rather than force-feeding a bunch of duped Rare Candies, you could actually use glitches to make your Pokemon have negative experience, which caused it to underflow to level 100.
@@alexpotts6520 yes I know this glitch but the community know the warp glitch first which makes the exp underflow within an any% speedrun useless. So no one had make it.
Zigzagoon is my all-time favorite Pokemon, partly due to nostalgia (Ruby was my first Pokemon game), and partly due to Pickup. What a wonderful little niche my furry bandit has found!
I thought Emerald was the only extremely broken Gen 3 game with the bad egg glitching. This doesn’t beat being able to create any pokemon, but it’s definitely breaking it much earlier.
So Cruelette became a speedrunning god? Mail can wrap now.
You thought you were buying mail
But you were actually buying Arceus' design notes
Pokemon, the Game that tells you "don't be a thief" if you throw a pokeball in a pokemon trainer battle but rewards you with a lv. 100 tentacool and a lot of rare candies if you commit theft
Major (re)discovery. Can't wait to see it being implemented in attempts.
PulseEffects: just Mudkip
Me: a trainer of culture
I need to see this speedrun for myself holy cow this is nuts
Its always fun to discover new glitches. It looks very game breaking to. We will see if its more game breaking than the pomeg berry glitch in time.
This is crazy. Hope to see some speedruns using this glitch soon
Can't wait for them to corrupt one of the times and turn it into the entrance to the champion's room somehow.
I can't wait to see calc optimization for just how many candies you can cut out under level 100 without compromising expected run speed.
Mightyena is pronounced like "hyena"
because its like a hyena, you see
The super metroid music in the background got me hyped
Love Pokémon glitches. They are so random and I always wonder how long it took to find these insane things lol.
This reminds me of bottle adventure from ocarina of time, doing random things with a niche item to alter game storage values, pretty cool!
Being able to edit memory is always the most powerful bug.
I wonder if it's possible to use this to change things that aren't the map. For instance your pokemon's level or what your pokemon is,
Is there somewhere I can read more in-depth about the technical details of this glitch? The video is a great overview!
that metroid soundtrack always hits the spot
The Undertale music is very appropriate given its speedrun uses the Hole Punch Card to bypass cutscenes.