Real weakness is indeed renouncing to beauty, wealth, power, just for ressentiment, a hidden envy that leads to desperation. Not that the real meaning of life lies in those above, but renouncing early on and judging them morally is real weakness.
@@bi.johnathanthe Buddha abandoned his wife and children. Siddhartha Gautama never wrote a book. Socrates never wrote a book. Jesus never wrote a book. Second hand note takers.
While there is definitely truth to the concept of master and slave morality, it is also truth that many become masters not through personal power but through immoral and illegal means - the truth is more nuanced than it seems
Can you please do a deep dive into Albert Camus and Absurdism? You mentioned him on a Niettzche lecture you did and I became absolutely obsessed with him. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Эта одна из стадий развития человека. Причем если мы рассматриваем школу как 2 типа личности, и тем и другим впоследствии придётся поменяться ролями, чтоб быть полноценными. Ненавистникам подкачаться, а сильным проесть свой девственный мозг самокопанием. Единственно что важно тут - это сравнение оценок, поздравляющий победителя лучше сочувствующего проигравшему. Так как сострадающий проигравшему, мечтает о мести победителю в этот момент.
German teacher: The German word for "bad" is "schlecht" and the German word for "plain and simple" is "einfach". So, "schlecht and einfach", sorry there is no similarity here.
An ENslaved master empowered by the use of his intellect becomes a True "Higher Man" by creating values thru the knowledge, wisdom, understanding of both "slave morality" and "master morality" or Nah???
Practically speaking, none of this would exist - neither RUclips, nor Jonathan's videos, nor Nietzsche's books - if the people creating these things were true brutes. Nietzsche is a deeply ironic figure who's whole philosophy stems from his personal problems, psychologizing everyone but himself. Life is about balance. It's OK to want more power, wealth, even sensuality, but if we're not using these things for good, we will be as miserable as any old naysayer. Also, you can find naysayers anywhere - they are not merely slaves and not all slaves are naysayers.
I'm betting you are actually a loser in real life. There is pandemic of losers being obsessed with the fantasy of strength while sitting behind a computer all day, unable to achieve anything.
Do you think that Nietzsche believed that the origin of "slave morality" began with the ancient Greek philosophers like Socrates and Plato, whose distaste for the Homeric myths fueled their pursuit for objective truth? Or do you think that Nietzsche believed that "slave morality" originated more from Judeo-Christian morality?
How could Christian morality being slave morality, while its founder is the Prince of Prince, the King and Lord of everything that is ultimately true, beautiful and vivifying. In his nobility he refuses to take possession of this earthly reality but have chosen instead to show us the way to struggle in this fallen world while waiting for his return and salvation. Without him how could you be sure that you would not have been a slave in ancient Rome, literacy is for the most part a consequence of christian phenomenon. Christianity help both you and Nietzsche become educated. And how despicable is this philosophy. The West doesn't have anything close to two sides. You will give to Caesar what is his and to God what is his and the sorting might surprise you. Finally, I hope that you don't believe in this rubbished and cynical categorization that you're teaching.
3:28 Think you misspoke here, pagan morality is not about good and bad but instead strength and weakness. Life affirming vs life denying.. vitalism vs nihilism.
There's a lot of shallow understanding and putting the cart before the horse here. What is interesting is that both stem from the same human psyche, when under different conditions. To say "the poor" only hold onto "ethical moral community supporting behavior" because it is the opposite of the ruler's mindset is ridiculous and ignorant. Common people rely on their community, and there is divine guidance in that, it's how we are created and meant to be, as a human culture. Sharing and giving and loving is how we may align with our creator. The ruler however no longer has the typical survival needs, and plays by a different set of rules, his own ego's rules in alignment with the 7 deadly sins or in Buddhism "the 5 poisons". The orator lacks spiritual depth and understanding, and it's not possible to speak on the great classics without this. But keep at it, it will lead you toward the path of best service and fulfillment.
My Guy Here is A Christian Preacher ,,,,,,,The Amount of Time He Says Christian Is Crazy,,,,,,,Selective choosing from Bible for philosophy is crazy…….
That's hardly selective choosing, it conveys the general rule of thumb of the Bible and doesn't cherry pick some passages. Also, he is simply repeating what Nieztche wrote. You should read his books, he is probably the greatest philosopher who ever lived, or at the very least, the one who's major works are consistently placed as the most important philosophical writings in history. You making yourself a desservice by not investigating these ideas by yourself.
Lmao 🤣 you say at the begininng the German word for bad is close to plain, simple, trivial and at the end you qualify your master morality as "simple" desires...
Yeah, I kind of couldn't believe Jonathan said that as straightforwardly as he did, with seemingly no disclaimers there - maybe it's in full video? Practically speaking, none of this would exist - neither RUclips, nor Jonathan's videos, nor Nietzsche's books - if the people creating these things were true brutes. Nietzsche is a deeply ironic figure who's whole philosophy stems from his personal problems, psychologizing everyone but himself.
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"Always be the best," Peleus tells his son Achilles, "better than all the rest" (Iliad, VI, 215).
Who knew Tina Turner was the modern day Homer.
@@matthewoxborrow5838 I’m unfamiliar, I don’t spend time watching modern television.
I really enjoyed this. Greetings from Germany, we need more content!
Just commenting to feed the algorithm. Its my digital prayer to make the world better.
Thank you Jon!
How is a bunch of narcissists thinking they are superior humans gonna make the world a better place.
@@KingJ1397-v8q either agreement or disagreement needs to be anchored in understanding to be of much value.
@@CramRockets so you don’t understand Nietzsche is what you’re saying.
@KingJ1397-v8q I for sure don't understand Nietzsche. Dude is bonkers. I can try tho.
You're a masterful orator. Keep up the good work!
What an amazing video; your explanations remind me a lot of H.L. Mencken's book on Nietzsche.
I really appreciate your lectures!
Thanks for engaging with my work!!
Real weakness is indeed renouncing to beauty, wealth, power, just for ressentiment, a hidden envy that leads to desperation.
Not that the real meaning of life lies in those above, but renouncing early on and judging them morally is real weakness.
yes. people don't give enough weight to the fact that Buddha was a prince before he renounced.
@@bi.johnathanhell yeah
@@bi.johnathanthe Buddha abandoned his wife and children.
Siddhartha Gautama never wrote a book.
Socrates never wrote a book.
Jesus never wrote a book.
Second hand note takers.
Learn your place . You don’t mouth yourself about deciding what power is and what not . Power is power .
@ canceled
OK im hooked Hope to see Camus and Schopenhauer in your future videos.
While there is definitely truth to the concept of master and slave morality, it is also truth that many become masters not through personal power but through immoral and illegal means - the truth is more nuanced than it seems
Nietzsche covers that.
Can you please do a deep dive into Albert Camus and Absurdism? You mentioned him on a Niettzche lecture you did and I became absolutely obsessed with him. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Great short 10min capture of Nietzsche brilliance
Эта одна из стадий развития человека. Причем если мы рассматриваем школу как 2 типа личности, и тем и другим впоследствии придётся поменяться ролями, чтоб быть полноценными. Ненавистникам подкачаться, а сильным проесть свой девственный мозг самокопанием. Единственно что важно тут - это сравнение оценок, поздравляющий победителя лучше сочувствующего проигравшему. Так как сострадающий проигравшему, мечтает о мести победителю в этот момент.
German teacher: The German word for "bad" is "schlecht" and the German word for "plain and simple" is "einfach". So, "schlecht and einfach", sorry there is no similarity here.
Interesting to see the slave mindset riddled with envy, however the Bible does condemn envy as well.
Indian theology is deeply misunderstood by west
Great content
An ENslaved master empowered by the use of his intellect becomes a True "Higher Man" by creating values thru the knowledge, wisdom, understanding of both "slave morality" and "master morality" or Nah???
I just love your videos
Cool library
Can’t believe I’m first! Love your lectures Jonathan
Oh my god I'm first! I am cumming everywhere daddy Jon
i give you my eldest daughter's hand in marriage and half my flock upon my death
@@bi.johnathan What about the youngest
@@savioronline You'd have to be first on one of my full length lectures I'm afraid
@@bi.johnathan fair enough
Practically speaking, none of this would exist - neither RUclips, nor Jonathan's videos, nor Nietzsche's books - if the people creating these things were true brutes. Nietzsche is a deeply ironic figure who's whole philosophy stems from his personal problems, psychologizing everyone but himself. Life is about balance. It's OK to want more power, wealth, even sensuality, but if we're not using these things for good, we will be as miserable as any old naysayer. Also, you can find naysayers anywhere - they are not merely slaves and not all slaves are naysayers.
So does that mean master morality is equivalent to narcissism from the point of view of slave morality??
so much better than jordan peterson
Thid is Jordan Peterson before he got commercialized
What, you don’t want to listen to a guy cry while talking about Pinnochio?
Jordan Peterson is a drug addicted Mossad agent who literally support genocide of Palestinians.
@@yashnigam6 Well, it depends on what you mean by listen.
@@laizerwoolfits crazy how i read it with jbp’s voice
I love pagan morality. Just can’t get on board with jealous judging losers.
Don’t forget the jealous judging winners too :)
I'm betting you are actually a loser in real life. There is pandemic of losers being obsessed with the fantasy of strength while sitting behind a computer all day, unable to achieve anything.
Achilles
Here is another Rousseau The Sleeping Gypsy - Henri Rousseau. It is a famous picture.
What do we do after we understand the morals?🤔
Do you think that Nietzsche believed that the origin of "slave morality" began with the ancient Greek philosophers like Socrates and Plato, whose distaste for the Homeric myths fueled their pursuit for objective truth? Or do you think that Nietzsche believed that "slave morality" originated more from Judeo-Christian morality?
How could Christian morality being slave morality, while its founder is the Prince of Prince, the King and Lord of everything that is ultimately true, beautiful and vivifying. In his nobility he refuses to take possession of this earthly reality but have chosen instead to show us the way to struggle in this fallen world while waiting for his return and salvation. Without him how could you be sure that you would not have been a slave in ancient Rome, literacy is for the most part a consequence of christian phenomenon. Christianity help both you and Nietzsche become educated.
And how despicable is this philosophy. The West doesn't have anything close to two sides. You will give to Caesar what is his and to God what is his and the sorting might surprise you.
Finally, I hope that you don't believe in this rubbished and cynical categorization that you're teaching.
3:28 Think you misspoke here, pagan morality is not about good and bad but instead strength and weakness. Life affirming vs life denying.. vitalism vs nihilism.
A clever fellow, however he is a master of 'elegant sophistry.' Small s.
i guess most of the Nietzsche concept accrue from the idea of perspectivism
There's a lot of shallow understanding and putting the cart before the horse here. What is interesting is that both stem from the same human psyche, when under different conditions. To say "the poor" only hold onto "ethical moral community supporting behavior" because it is the opposite of the ruler's mindset is ridiculous and ignorant. Common people rely on their community, and there is divine guidance in that, it's how we are created and meant to be, as a human culture. Sharing and giving and loving is how we may align with our creator. The ruler however no longer has the typical survival needs, and plays by a different set of rules, his own ego's rules in alignment with the 7 deadly sins or in Buddhism "the 5 poisons". The orator lacks spiritual depth and understanding, and it's not possible to speak on the great classics without this. But keep at it, it will lead you toward the path of best service and fulfillment.
4:18
Bro had to hire like 30 actors to listen to him.
Judeo Christianity is based on Saint Paul's words. Which needs to be justified
My Guy Here is A Christian Preacher ,,,,,,,The Amount of Time He Says Christian Is Crazy,,,,,,,Selective choosing from Bible for philosophy is crazy…….
That's hardly selective choosing, it conveys the general rule of thumb of the Bible and doesn't cherry pick some passages.
Also, he is simply repeating what Nieztche wrote. You should read his books, he is probably the greatest philosopher who ever lived, or at the very least, the one who's major works are consistently placed as the most important philosophical writings in history.
You making yourself a desservice by not investigating these ideas by yourself.
What do you think of Islam of today ?
Lmao 🤣 you say at the begininng the German word for bad is close to plain, simple, trivial and at the end you qualify your master morality as "simple" desires...
Anyone whose moral philosophy not only allows, but possibly provides justification for the commitment of murder and rape shouldn't be taken seriously.
Yeah, I kind of couldn't believe Jonathan said that as straightforwardly as he did, with seemingly no disclaimers there - maybe it's in full video? Practically speaking, none of this would exist - neither RUclips, nor Jonathan's videos, nor Nietzsche's books - if the people creating these things were true brutes. Nietzsche is a deeply ironic figure who's whole philosophy stems from his personal problems, psychologizing everyone but himself.
The church shouldn’t aim to become a state but the state to turn to a church