I've got a neighbor back home that's still got his dad's old John Deer horse drawn sickle mower and an old dump rake sitting in his backyard enriching the iron content of his soil... My dad used to go to South Eastern Iowa and help his Uncle and his Grand mother put up loose hay in the 1920s and 30s as a kid. They did it with horses and pitch forks it was all loose hay they had a pull type hay loader to load the wagon and they put it in the barn from the ground to the top of the barn.. They fed cows from each side of the barn in winter..
We put up Loose hay and the little round bales until about 64. The last time I remember pulling the dump rake with the Ferguson. This is before the chemicals. We had a Wheat Field that came up a Green carpet of kosha so my dad and the neighbor cut it with sickle mowers and I Bunch raked it. Those loose Stacks shrunk by a half in size & steamed when we opened them up to feed them to the cattle that winter in the same field. They licked it up , it smelled like chewing tobacco. I just remember raking as fast as I could going with the wind because of that green Cloud of pollen behind me. We put the hay up in loose stacks with a bucker and a push off Farmhand Stacker.
Hello never seen that kinda rake. Makes sense to clean that up. I agree if you leave it some would be baled the next time this, gives you the best knowledge that your bales are premium. Have a good day.
Holy shit Trevor, thank you for using that dump rake. Watch so many people leave a lot of good hay lay on the ground and then kills out that area or gets in the next cut like you mentioned.
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch it’s just funny, so you got 16 bales out of that, say you get 3, maybe 4 cuts, that’s 64 bales. Up in here in MN that’s a week to two weeks or mores worth of feed. Some people don’t get it. It’s just common sense. Maybe an hr or twos worth of fuel to take care of it.
I used to ride the dump rake when my grandfather raked, pulled by a Farmall "H". Gramps would say now and you better hit the dump pedal because if the windrow didn't line up he wasn't happy. Had pictures of the same rake drawn by horses before tractors.
Rowse rakes are built in Burwell Nebraska. Sometime when you get some free time, you should browse their website and look at they're other products. They make a fantastic crop driven 27 wheel rake that is built extremely heavy. They also make double bar mowers that cut 18ft of hay in one pass that requires 19hp. Cool stuff for sure
I ran a 30ft dump rake for 20+ years on my uncle's ranch. I guarantee you it will make you a very good operator after a few weeks of running one lol but we didn't own a baler of any kind. We put up the hay in the old way of loose hay stack.
I farmed alfalfa in California. We call the water that comes out at the end of the field Tail Water. So our ditches were called Tail Ditches. Those ditches took the tail water to a reservoir at the low end of the field and we call those Tail Pits.
in haylng parlance, the hay that remains after stacking or baling is called "scatterings"....and one person was always assigned to raking "scatterings"
We had an 8’ dump rake we used to rake then we hauled loose, forking on pickup manually and then hauling and making hay stacks. Poor mans way of hating and feeding cows. Enjoy watching the channel.
You are way better at grading than our professional road grader guy When it rains the water does not leave the surface of the road because the side of the road is higher than the middle of the road
Actually with orginal dump rakes they could then pickup the hay as loose hay easier, then it would be stocked in stacks or baled by a stationary baler.
Thanks again for the great video that was really interesting. I followed you on most of the video but I did not understand the “”Tedder”” word you were using in talking about the steps you do for baling. What is that??? Interesting how you use old style equipment to gather up the left over hay in the field. Good use of that product for your own animals. Great idea. Digging that trench so the water will run off is working good for you. Your old grader does a good job on that process. Thanks for showing us both methods. Old ideas and old equipment doing the job-ya!!!!! You all take care and be safe. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks Much. Iowa farm boy from years ago.
can you get some more footage of the swather? i would love a review on the wr9970. we have 9980s. a review on the machine. header, engine, cab especially, etc would be awesome. and maybe a tutorial on how it runs (even though I already know) like about the display screen, handle, buttons etc.
Not trying to start a banter and Not to be that fella but im that fella. Haha The rowse company started outside of Burwell Nebraska. Not in Montana and is still there plus I think there's a plant in O'Neal Nebraska still also.
Seems like one of the more important steps in the entire process. I'm a tradesman and the cleanup at the end of the projecto is more important than doing the job because it can effect everyone one down the line. Use the tools that work for u. What type of fert do u guys use. Granular, liquid....what's the process.
Hmmm….hello from Europe. Not sure why you would burn diesel for 2 bales. Also those little loose strands help fertilize the ground(if you have moisture). If you could only see the waste from cutting and preserving silage or hay in Ireland….😂
Very late replying to this. But regular grass hay is, and was a couple years ago, over $200/ton where I am. Here, bales average 1800lbs. So, "a couple" bales can add up quickly, and easily pay for extra work/time.
Rowse rakes are not made in Montana, they are made in Burwell and O'Neill Nebraska and the dump rake from them has been made since the at least the 60's, not a popular as it used to be, I grew up in the Sandhills of Nebraska and there wasn't a ranch that didn't have them for putting up meadow hay now that most everyone has went to a swather of some type they are used much less around here but when everyone used sickle bar mowers they would run two to three of them, two to straight rake and one to scatter rake like you are doing.
Just one man's opinion, but that tag line, "yes our name is Bales, and yes we bale hay. No we didn't change our name." is pretty stale bro. Get some new material!
I've got a neighbor back home that's still got his dad's old John Deer horse drawn sickle mower and an old dump rake sitting in his backyard enriching the iron content of his soil...
My dad used to go to South Eastern Iowa and help his Uncle and his Grand mother put up loose hay in the 1920s and 30s as a kid. They did it with horses and pitch forks it was all loose hay they had a pull type hay loader to load the wagon and they put it in the barn from the ground to the top of the barn..
They fed cows from each side of the barn in winter..
We put up Loose hay and the little round bales until about 64. The last time I remember pulling the dump rake with the Ferguson. This is before the chemicals. We had a Wheat Field that came up a Green carpet of kosha so my dad and the neighbor cut it with sickle mowers and I Bunch raked it. Those loose Stacks shrunk by a half in size & steamed when we opened them up to feed them to the cattle that winter in the same field. They licked it up , it smelled like chewing tobacco. I just remember raking as fast as I could going with the wind because of that green Cloud of pollen behind me. We put the hay up in loose stacks with a bucker and a push off Farmhand Stacker.
Like the old saying goes an honest days work makes an honest man great video u and all the workers are very hard working
Smart move, food & bedding for your livestock & better quality for next cutting - win, win
Hello never seen that kinda rake. Makes sense to clean that up. I agree if you leave it some would be baled the next time this, gives you the best knowledge that your bales are premium. Have a good day.
That’s so cool (and interesting to see!!!) ... I usually just have to go back and clean the field with the baler - -
Holy shit Trevor, thank you for using that dump rake. Watch so many people leave a lot of good hay lay on the ground and then kills out that area or gets in the next cut like you mentioned.
Lol. Love your excitement!!
@@BalesHayFarmandRanch it’s just funny, so you got 16 bales out of that, say you get 3, maybe 4 cuts, that’s 64 bales. Up in here in MN that’s a week to two weeks or mores worth of feed. Some people don’t get it. It’s just common sense. Maybe an hr or twos worth of fuel to take care of it.
I used to ride the dump rake when my grandfather raked, pulled by a Farmall "H". Gramps would say now and you better hit the dump pedal because if the windrow didn't line up he wasn't happy. Had pictures of the same rake drawn by horses before tractors.
When I did hay we had an old codger that would pick up every piece of hay left with his pitchfork and a 4wheeler
Great starting job for your boys! Good Tractor time
Hiya I used to watch the 'Tailings' being raked here in the UK in the 60s' still good to watch, thank you. Stay safe...Steve...
Rowse rakes are built in Burwell Nebraska. Sometime when you get some free time, you should browse their website and look at they're other products. They make a fantastic crop driven 27 wheel rake that is built extremely heavy. They also make double bar mowers that cut 18ft of hay in one pass that requires 19hp. Cool stuff for sure
How does that stack up against a sitrex pro 17 wheel rake?
Neighbor here uses a Rowse rake to clean up sticks after shaking his pecan trees prior to running the harvesting equipment. Does a great job!
I ran a 30ft dump rake for 20+ years on my uncle's ranch. I guarantee you it will make you a very good operator after a few weeks of running one lol but we didn't own a baler of any kind. We put up the hay in the old way of loose hay stack.
Grader looks fun to operate
One heck of a de-thatcher 😂
I farmed alfalfa in California. We call the water that comes out at the end of the field Tail Water. So our ditches were called Tail Ditches. Those ditches took the tail water to a reservoir at the low end of the field and we call those Tail Pits.
Nice!
in haylng parlance, the hay that remains after stacking or baling is called "scatterings"....and one person was always assigned to raking "scatterings"
Using a grader 101. It's a finishing tool. Use long smooth strokes. Small adjustments.
We had an 8’ dump rake we used to rake then we hauled loose, forking on pickup manually and then hauling and making hay stacks. Poor mans way of hating and feeding cows. Enjoy watching the channel.
We called them sulky rakes. Haven't seen one used since the 1950s...yeah, I'm that old.
Congratulations Man.
You are way better at grading than our professional road grader guy
When it rains the water does not leave the surface of the road because the side of the road is higher than the middle of the road
Great video once again.
😎👍👌
Actually with orginal dump rakes they could then pickup the hay as loose hay easier, then it would be stocked in stacks or baled by a stationary baler.
Hardly ever put up green hay here in the south east cut one morning and sun bleached the next evening
Thanks again for the great video that was really interesting. I followed you on most of the video but I did not understand the “”Tedder”” word you were using in talking about the steps you do for baling. What is that??? Interesting how you use old style equipment to gather up the left over hay in the field. Good use of that product for your own animals. Great idea. Digging that trench so the water will run off is working good for you. Your old grader does a good job on that process. Thanks for showing us both methods. Old ideas and old equipment doing the job-ya!!!!! You all take care and be safe. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks Much. Iowa farm boy from years ago.
The Tedder video is coming!!!
Our Wyoming life was using a dump rake 13 years ago.
can you get some more footage of the swather? i would love a review on the wr9970. we have 9980s. a review on the machine. header, engine, cab especially, etc would be awesome. and maybe a tutorial on how it runs (even though I already know) like about the display screen, handle, buttons etc.
I love our hydrualic powered rake
I could have sold you a 1920's john deere high wheel, steel wheel, dump rake. My grandpa used it to put up loose hay.
A little Jpaydirt RUclips and in no time you’ll go from “not a professional grader driver” to a real blade hand!! Good job either way👌🏻👌🏻
My dad had one we used behind a horse, then switched to the tractor.. Someone stole the seat off it several years ago.
Watched my grandpa pull a dump rake with a team of horses, did exceptional on alfalfa by not knocking off many leaves..
That’s old schools
How’s the drought treating you in Arizona? Really effecting us here in Texas. On our last watering for the season unless things turn around.
Can you make a video of fertilizing the fields? I have flood irrigation too, we only get 2 cuts a year in Saskatchewan.
Don’t feel bad about your grader skills. I taught myself how to cut, rake and bale. I’m not very good at that either. 😂
plus, removing this hay doesn't kill off the small areas of grass that would of been smothered
Yyyuupppp!!
Not trying to start a banter and Not to be that fella but im that fella. Haha The rowse company started outside of Burwell Nebraska. Not in Montana and is still there plus I think there's a plant in O'Neal Nebraska still also.
Lol. I couldn’t remember hahaha. My memory is terrible. Thank you for the correction. It probably says it right on the rake…
Why are the tires on that tractor installed backwards?
The last longer. So we’ve been told.
Rowse Rakes are made in Burwell Nebraska.....I grew up in Burwell.....
I would love to have that when I rake leavers
Do you rake every field or just the Bermuda grass?
We rake EVERY field.
Seems like one of the more important steps in the entire process. I'm a tradesman and the cleanup at the end of the projecto is more important than doing the job because it can effect everyone one down the line. Use the tools that work for u.
What type of fert do u guys use. Granular, liquid....what's the process.
Mr Bales YEP
Rouse rakes and mowers are made in Nebraska
Yeah. I couldn’t remember. Shot in the dark.
Rowse still makes a dump rake.
The raking is only for getting better feed-quality,wright.
Any reason for no cab /aircon for the operator of that rake Trev?
It was an old rake tractor we had as an extra tractor
When my parents bought the second ranch the former owner tried to sell his 60’ dump rake.
Rowse Rakes are made in Burwell Nebraska, not Montana. They are made on the ranch north of Burwell.
It's so hot there maybe when you start an engine it's actually cooling down rather than warming up
Hmmm….hello from Europe. Not sure why you would burn diesel for 2 bales. Also those little loose strands help fertilize the ground(if you have moisture). If you could only see the waste from cutting and preserving silage or hay in Ireland….😂
It makes a lot more than 2 bales. And it’s not about the hay this makes. It’s about keeping the next cutting clean.
Very late replying to this. But regular grass hay is, and was a couple years ago, over $200/ton where I am. Here, bales average 1800lbs. So, "a couple" bales can add up quickly, and easily pay for extra work/time.
My dad used one behind a team of horses.
so it's just a dethatcher
And this is what happens when you make management mad...They'll make you run the dump rake...On a open station tractor:)
Is there a reason why the tires are backwards?
Supposedly “they last longer” going down the road.
Haven't used a dump rack since we did loose hay when I was a kid. Didn't know they were still built.
Rowse in built in burwell NE
Those rakes are made in Nebraska, not Montana.
I know. My memory sucks.
Seems like you need one 30’-40’ cut your time in half.
Yes. But the bigger they get, the more they cost!!
you said at 4 minutes and 23 seconds it was the one of cheaper implements. Seems like if it was so cheap you’d have a 30’ or 40’ + footer.
Rowse rakes are not made in Montana, they are made in Burwell and O'Neill Nebraska and the dump rake from them has been made since the at least the 60's, not a popular as it used to be, I grew up in the Sandhills of Nebraska and there wasn't a ranch that didn't have them for putting up meadow hay now that most everyone has went to a swather of some type they are used much less around here but when everyone used sickle bar mowers they would run two to three of them, two to straight rake and one to scatter rake like you are doing.
Fertilizer is NOT cheap.
Just one man's opinion, but that tag line, "yes our name is Bales, and yes we bale hay. No we didn't change our name." is pretty stale bro. Get some new material!
How about this. When people stop asking, I’ll stop using it.
I actually quite enjoy it