Great job Tim. Lots of very good information. I was in the Coast Guard for 34 Years and had to fight many fires on boats and ships. You did a great job of telling what to look out for. Good luck in the future and stay and play safe.
When I was in the Navy, about 1/3 of our training was for damage control and fire fighting. The fire house at San Diego Basic Training made an indelible impression in my memory. Charging into a diesel fire with fuel at our feet sure made us figure out how to be fire fighters.
During my career as a train operator for the NYC subways, we had "Fire School" once every two years, and fire instruction from field supervisors regularly. Part of our training was to go in a fire simulator building which was filled with artificial smoke and all the lights were put out so you were there in total darkness in dense smoke and you had to get yourself and the rest of the class out safely. Some of us panicked which is normal for extreme circumstances for some, so we had to deal with that as well. Underground fires are common in the subways, trash and grease fires. Equipment fires are serious because of the toxic nature of chemical smoke in confined tunnels. Fire safety and knowing what to do is extremely important regardless where you are. I enjoyed a peek into your fire control procedures and equipment which is far different than mine were. I appreciate the time you take to make these videos, I find them very informative since I am a curious guy by nature. Thank you and stay safe Tim. CUOTO
I was fortunate to train in a “smokehouse”. We had to hug the walls as we proceeded in just so we could keep our bearings and not fall into hazards, stairs, etc. I want scared as it was a training exercise. Worst case, they could I open up the windows to ventilate and let in light. Comedian Stephan Wright said “I’m not afraid of heights. I’m afraid of widths.” 😂😂. As far as training on fighting hydrocarbon fires, there ode one drill where I was on an external fixed fire monitor /Nozzle. I was applying cooling to the structure and sweeping away ground fires from the attack teams. Well, they “isolated” the fuel source by closing a valve. They started to back out as the fire was dying down. I just happened to be in front of the fuel control station. The administrators started chuckling. It was at that time I heard a swooooshhhh, and I immediately knew what was up. They added fuel which flared up the blaze. Simulating possibly a failed flange. Fire training is pretty safe, unless you’re around me. Well, if you were around be that one particular day. I guess I can admit this here and now. We finished our training on a “prop”. We had to tear down the hoses and nozzles and SCOTT air packs and return them to their stations. Well, I was eager and energized. I went to the hydrant to block in the water to our hoses. Luckily, the valves were 1/; turn fully open / closed. Just as I closed the water to one hose, I hear shouting from the crew an the prop next lot over. “We lost water!!!!” Doh! I quickly turned back on the water. Hoses were everywhere crossing over any number of hoses. It would appear that I shut off the water to an attack team next door. Luckily, nobody was hurt. You are the first to hear of this. A burden I have carried with me for years. Not so much from guilt. Yeah, I messed up. But, more out of embarrassment. Lastly, learn the class of fire extinguishers, what they are for, what NOT to use them for, and how to apply them. Class A,B,C,D- normal combustibles like wood, paper, etc. Oil, greases, gasoline, etc. Electrical, And finally burning metals such as magnesium. Always have a lid handy when cooking on the stovetop, so you don’t have to scramble around looking for one to snuff out a pan grease / oil fire. Last but not the least by the any stretch. Train. Train. Train. I can personally attest that training has proven to be the difference in surviving potential catastrophe and just motivating an incident where everyone walks away uninjured or worse. ✌️🤙
@@perrydiddle3698 you are right about training. That's where it is 'safer' to make mistakes. We had a lot of training courses of all types, some because of the number of people we were responsible for in case of fire or equipment breakdowns and all. I didn't use all of the things I had training for, but that was fine with me. Boring days in the subways are good days. Nothing exciting is ever good.
One of the surprises I got during my Coast Guard firefighting training, was what happens when you discharge water in a confined space that’s on fire. You produce steam! That steam instantly penetrates your bunker gear and you are getting cooked! You learn quickly not to go charging into the fire with a hose. Another good video Tim! #CUOTO
The things from this video that struck home. Communicate....what is normal..... know the boat.... And benefits or dangers of CO2. Removal of the oxygen.... removal of any fuel that can feed a fire... Great work again. Watching boat handling is magical Putting everyone on point for safety is not only the responsibility of the captain but Is part of every ones way to keep safe. A ship / rig ./ boat is not a job. You don’t go home at night you go to sleep within the same environment. When you sleep you expect the on shift crew / crew to look out for you as you did for them.. If the crew do this then sleep is sound refreshing and relaxing. If you worry that the other crew are not then ... life is not good and the boat / ship is not happy. One of my biggest fears was not getting a full muster, where the numbers on the Persons On Board ( POB) list didn’t match the head count. If everyone was accounted for releasing the CO2 was a easy choice. If the numbers didn’t... who is missing ?????...are they in the space where you want to release the CO2? Releasing the CO2 would kill them IF they were in the space. What a choice Kill 1 and save the x00. Or wait and put the rest in danger.... Its not driving the boat its the rest that a captain needs to be able to handle and live with..... I hope no one has to make that choice... a tug with a crew of under 10 is easy to head count a drilling rig with 200. Or accommodation vessel with 400 is different. You are opening the eyes of the none commercial boating world to the dangers and things to consider, think about.... Thinking about them is the first 10 steps in planning to survive. Amacf
When I was a rookie in the petroleum refining business, I was working at a process unit ( the older one of two units). I walked across the road to stop in our other unit to pick up something and shoot the 💩for a spell. We were talking when someone asked if we heard something. I said “yeah, it’s the steam hose leaking out in the pump bay (a concrete pad behind our control room that had feed pumps, reflux pumps, transfer pumps, etc.). They said “STEAM LEAK! WHAT STEAM LEAK?” I said the steam hose on a pump manifold. Well, we have these utility steam hoses, which basically were black, and rated for 300 pasig. They had I think 11/2” Union couplings. We also had black hydrocarbon hoses rated for 500 pasig, I believe. Bathe unions on these were I believe 1”. Just a bit smaller that the steam hoses. I’ve seen them hooked up to process equipment to evacuate it, either by system pressure to a liquid / vapor recovery system, or vacuum system. I have never seen one used to transfer LPG from a pump discharge. Typically we use threaded pipe if it’s temporary, welded flanged if it’s permanent- or even temporary for things like major unit turnarounds ( used to be biannually, but last I knew was every three years) where they shut down the unit, clear it out (maybe a week or more), then turn it over to maintenance for inspections, repairs, upgrades and modifications (2-3 weeks) then closing everything up, air freeing, leak check and startup (1-2 weeks). They often target 6 weeks oil out to oil in. But, I digress. Mi should have either taken a closer look or informed the operators what I noticed. They would have been all over it. It turned out to be a minor fitting leak with the Union (damn no good unions! Just kidding, I’m from a strong union family.lol). It was IC4 isobutane, which is a tad bit heavier hydrocarbon than propane (C3). Boiling points are 11*F for IC4 and minus 44*F for C3. The liquid boils off into a gas when released to atmospheric pressure. They can look similar in that they form visible clouds like steam does. The big difference is steam, being much hotter, rises, the hydrocarbons will sink as they are heavier than air. It was a bit breezy, and the fact that I was unaware they could use the hoses for this purpose led me to be - no. They didn’t lead me to be complacent. Complacency was all on me. I could have told them, and it could have been a non issue. Some times we have steam valve packing leaks that have ever been tightened over time til there’s no more to tighten, or the valve stem gets cut over time. One thing that makes me cringe is that some valves can be back seated. We all know closing a good gate valve (lefty Lucy, righty tighty ) should stop the flow when the gate is seated in the bottom of the valve. But, you can back that gate out all the way until it is back seated against the packing gland assembly. You can potentially undo the packing bolts, remove the retainer, clean out the stuffing box and install fresh packing and button her back up. Some, no all gate valves have this feature. Oh, back to cringing. I’ve seen valve mechanics take out the packing material on a 4” gate valve and replace it. Getting the shivers just thinking of it. Lol Point is, if something catches your attention, say something, do something. While I’m at on refinery safety, I might as where this with everyone. Be careful with helium balloons. That is all. Oh, details you ask? Alrighty. I was mopping up the oil and grease from the pump bay deck (bigger one, different unit). We use a degreaser similar to dish soap. This one happened to be red. So, I’m mopping up around trying to be extra careful as it’s a bit slippery. What do I see? A gas chromatograph stream analyzer. There are calibration gas tanks, purge gas tanks, inert gas tanks including helium. Genius and comedian that I am, I put my mouth up to a tank of helium and inhale so I can call the operators on the radio in my high pitched voice. Harmless, right? Well, since it wasn’t just a balloon, I had a tank! I inhaled, exhaled, inhaled so I could talk a long time. Just one minor flaw in my judgement. Next thing I know, I’m laying on the deck in puddles of the soapy water. Radio over there, holstered pipe wrench over there, hardhat over there, mop over there...WTF? I know, I purged out all the O2 in my lungs and passed out. I gathered my things, and returned to work. My chin started to itch. I scratched it with the back of my hand. Oops, soap on it. I wiped my hand clean and scratched it again. Oops. More RED soap on it. Hey, that ain’t soap. I went around the corner of the pump bay where our unit testing lab was. It had a mirror. I looked up at my chin in the mirror. OMG!!! My chin wasn’t there! I’d swear you could see the bone. I went out on the deck looking around for my chin. Now I’m thinking I looked like a zombie or a rotting corpse stumbling around looking for my chin. No luck. 😱 I went back to the lab. After further analysis (no pun intended - but that was a good one - lab-analysis 😂). (I know, it’s no laughing matter), I was able to determine it was just like a bad boxers cut. I was able to grab the bottom of the chin and pulled it up to meet the upper chin, and it all fit. I called my operator in charge and asked him if he could handle the sight of blood. He said “As long as it ain’t mine.” He was a Vietnam vet. I’m surprised he didn’t just hook me up with some crazy glue and let me get back to my duties. Ok. Another joke. Sorry. So, they hauled me away in an ambulance to get I think about 17 stitches. Some internal, some external. After a few weeks, I had to return to the docs to get my stitches out, then they cut open just the outer layer of skin so they could remove the internal stitches, then they restitched up the outer stitches. Ok. I just had to slip in one more joke. So, be careful with the helium, folks. 😉✌️🤙
@@TimBatSea I gotta watch your video again. You may have already covered it. But, I wrote a bunch of stuff on Classes of fire extinguishers, uses and handling. Unfortunately it accidentally got deleted from my clipboard. I get to the point of saying to myself “why bother”..it’s not like people are craving any words from my brain. Lol. So, I just left it alone. I’m probably writing more here than I originally had. Lol. I will add, I had a small frying pan fire. Oh man! The sky is falling! Armageddon! So, I just simply shut off the stove and placed the lid on the pan. Viola! No fire. I like to cook with a lid handy for such situations so I don’t have to fumble around looking for one.
Your comments about smells are spot on. When I was in the Army in tanks and cavalry, the same applied. I was very surprised the first time I was on a Navy vessel because it smelled just like the inside of my tank. I guess it is that equipment smell. The diesel, hydraulic fluid, grease, etc. smell. The smell says I'm home! Thankfully, my sailboats don't have that industrial smell but the concept still applies. Thanks for another great video!
The machinery spaces onboard a steam powered ship is even more problems you have to deal with thankfully never had to deal with any of these problems are stem leaks if gotten out of hand it could kill just as easily in the very small spaces that are onboard a ship learned that onboard a aircraft carrier
@@CletusTrucking Indeed! I was amazed at some of the crazy spaces on board a Navy ship. From the outside I the ships look huge, and of course they are. However I never expected to see such tiny and strange spaces on board. As one gets deep into the ship there are some truly unusual spaces.
What a great presentation! Especially liked the discussion about smells. Ozone, freon, lube oil, diesel oil, xylene and other solvents, cooking grease, and yes..friction each produce their distinct smell - both ordinary and when burned. This was a particular emphasis in submarine quals. I really like this series and thanks again for keeping my brain cells active.
That is so funny about the smells associated with boats and ships at sea. Submarines are the same way ... a very distinctive fuel/carbon/... 'submarine-like' smell. They all smelled the same! My wife kind of liked it, because it meant I was home and back in port. Short sea story, I remember when we were pulling into Hong Kong, it was my turn to wash my clothes in the one washer and dryer for a 110 guys. The A-gang apparently hadn't cleaned out the lint deep inside the dryer. I was sitting there waiting for my clothes to finish drying when I noticed a six inch tongue of flame shooting out from under the dryer! We secured the dryer, got the small fire out ... and needless to say the crew razzed and reminded me that Doc tried to burn the boat. My clothes also smelled like 'Smokey the Bear' during my liberty in Hong Kong. Fire and flooding at sea is no joke. Small fires like a clothes dryer can go downhill in a hurry! And, it's not like you can call 911 and wait for the local fire department. Drilling muscle memory! Great video Tim ... I thoroughly enjoy them. Be safe.
Thank you very much for sharing and watching! My ex wife didn't like the smell of the boat for the same reason yours did. It meant I was back in port. LOL CUOTO
You are so right to learn smells. I was travelling on a train, working on my laptop. Sniff sniff - I know that smell (years of ham radio told me it was an electronic resistor smoking). Then see thin grey smoke from the cooling fan. Luckily I'd studied the laptop design, and I knew how to unclip the battery (can't rely on a software power switch once it's burning). Smoke stops - all is well Got a weird look when IT came to repair the machine. "Can you demonstrate the fault?" "Yes - where is your flame-proof workspace?" They really expected me to plug the battery in in an office full of paper.... Stay safe, trust your nose.
Very good video thanks very much, I lost a tug once out at sea. We ended up on the barges and watched her burn. The name of the tug was The Alice Saint Phillips.
Awesome video, definitely an important subject to raise awareness of, fires don’t happen that often, luckily. But when it happens it’s really important to know what to.
@@TimBatSea One of my pet peeves is hearing people say that about a water heater. If the water is hot, it doesn't need to be heated. Another thing is when people say "tuna fish". Tuna IS a fish! You don't ask for a "chicken bird" salad sandwich. Capt Tim I love your videos! Please keep them coming.
Thanks Tim ! Few things frighten experienced sailors ( and especially submariners ) like fire at sea . Great video full of information on procedures and attitudes and habits neccessary to avoid fires on board.
I used to be a volunteer fireman and have seen 2 people try and put a Scott on upside down, one from our department (that succeeded) and one that started to, steeping through the shoulder straps. I look back on it now and it was one of the most hilarious deals in the world. The guy jerked it out of the box and handed it to me and another driver and we just held it the way he handed it to us. He steeped through the straps and took off around the house wide open, made about 2 rounds and never got the air turned on. We could hear him wheezing over the noise of 2 engines and a portable pump running. He did all that to rescue a propane bottle that was already outside. Thanks, Cap! GOOD memories!
As an ex-Navy (Royal Australian Navy FireFighter back in the '80s), you are totally right in what you say about once the CO2 or halon dump system has been engaged. DO NOT enter the compartment or vessel until the Fire Brigade or someone with dedicated Fire Fighting facilities arrives to fight a fire if it reignites or anything else happens... There are soo many ways a fire can start from the simplest and most unimportant or unthought-of things. It is a shame to hear about your brother's wooden boat, I love wooden boats. As an Australian Volunteer Coast Guard skipper we do monthly fire drills and exercises on every vessel.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words Tim. Fire tends to be that thing many do not think about until it is out of control. Drill/train and hope you never have to use your skills. CUOTO
Your ears and nose are some of the best detectors on board, especially when you know the boat well. More than once while aboard the boat on which I spent the most time, I told the engineer to check something because I knew it was wrong. The engineers had not worked for months on that boat, as I had. My ears and nose knew something was different.
Thank you for watching Dan. Oh yes! If you have ever worked on a boat with an upper house or fly bridge, you will know when you suck a valve long before the engineers do. CUOTO
One thing universal - from $1K motorboat to $1M motor yacht - cleanliness can keep you from meeting that godly gentleman ! Never a professional sailor but in a skill where boats and ships were part of the realm, you soon learn habits to keep you safe and one of mine was cleanliness in confined/restricted spaces . IAC, a great video ! Thanks for your efforts !
@@TimBatSea You just made me feel old talking about the fire and grounding of North Cape! I remember Moonstone being littered with dead lobsters. You didn't have to use so many "manys" ! Lol! 1996. My buddy went and surfed Mary's Bar anyway. Regretted it immensely!
As a former PSO (Public Safety Officer) for a small jurisdiction, we performed as both police and fire personnel... I learned much about fires. I already had an LEO background so I lapped up the fire side of things. Ended up being both an FAO (Fire Apparatus Operator) and a CFI (Certified Fire Investigator). I completely understand your approach. Thanks for another excellent video
I started watching your channel to try and make sense of the Dali bridge accident and how it happened, From Mystery bay in nsw Australia i just couldn't get my head around how such a large container ship can just run into a bridge and after watching 20 or more of your excellent videos and how much control you have and the ease in which you cast off and get underway do your work each day it would seem to me that the only way to stop another major collision is for the larger ships to be forced to have several Tugs to guide them past infostructure of high value like bridges. love your videos very informative a pleasure to watch thankyou.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel Paul. There are many things to consider, and you can only manage risk. You can not eliminate it. I really appreciate your kind words. Thank you. CUOTO
I worked with a guy who, when at sea, would always sleep, fully clothed, with the lights on and the door to his room open. When asked why, he'd just reply, "Have you ever been in a fire at sea? Well, I have." One time made that much of an impression on him.
@@johnnyangel9163 Thank you for watching Johnny. I have tried to get my deckhands to cam up, but they wont have any of it. I did do video you might like called " Basic seamanship 101" CUOTO
#1 - FOB #2 - MOB is next and I think you have covered most of the safety stuff. Then, we have to think about damage to the boat. Your doing a good job explaining it and keeping it concise. I think most of the information can be modified for pleasure craft. Three thumbs up.
So thankful you dedicated the time and effort to make this video! Safety on board is the heart of all maritime operations as you so clearly described. Firefighting and fire prevention training will always be the #1 priority on a vessel. All the best from St Marys, GA where salvage operations continue on the Golden Ray. It is now declared the most costly disaster in US commercial maritime history. CUOTO 🇺🇸⛴⚓️
Thank you for watching Dick. I have friends from our company working on the removal of the fuel and friends that work for the salvage company that is dismantling it. What a mess? CUOTO
The only saving grace of this disaster is every RoRo officer that steams by can see the awful results that await them and their vessels when simple ballasting confirmations are not performed. Each month, 40-50 car carriers transit this port as the second busiest on the east coast next to NJ. The channel is narrow so crews get a close-up eyeful as they pass. Thank your friends and colleagues on our behalf for their fine work! CUOTO
@@TimBatSea I already subscribe to your channel I like the videos I was a commercial fishermen on a 85 foot trawler here in North Carolina and Cape may New Jersey
Smells. Hmmm. Upon returning to Los Angeles from our weeklong fire training at Texas A&M University Fire Science Academy, our bunker gear bags got flagged at the airport TSA. Gee, I don’t know why they might be concerned with the loading if great bags with heavy odors of diesel. It’s not like they could be packed with...wait. Good call by TSA. We even put the bunker gear inside heavy duty garbage bags and tied them up tight. I guess their chemical swabs also picked up hydrocarbon detection. We had some “splainin’” to do. But, we had everything (ze papers) in order. But, I’ve heard of an oxygen tank that was improperly stowed take down a jet airliner.✌️🤙
@@TimBatSea Ha ha. Well, there was that one time. I try to avoid the TSA, so, my air travel has been suffering for it. Lol. BTW, ironically, knowing how Texas is known for its friendliness and hospitality, we flew into Austin (lots of good reviews). We then took a bus to College Station for the training. We just get out in the road from the airport. I’m looking out the window taking in the sights, when one friendly gentleman flips us the bird. 😂. Now, I’d expect that from the Big Apple, but, the folks there were the most friendliest.
Great stuff Capt, shipboard fires are no joke, I was onboard a coast guard cutter in 69 tied up in Japan when we had a fire in the sea bag locker. I was taken off in a stretcher from smoke inhalation, not a fun time!!!
Many years ago, the company insurance provider told us if we were not certified firemen, we could only use a fire extinguisher to get out or save another person, we were not allowed to put out the fire and save property including the helicopters we flew. Yeah Right!
Keep the awesome videos coming Captain Tim! I hope that you are doing well! Those Vane Brothers Tugs are awesome and I love the white, green, and black paint job too. It's definitely bad to have a fire at sea whether its aboard a Container Ship, a Warship like USS. Enterprise CVN-65 on January 14, 1969, USS. Forrestal CV-59 on July 29, 1967, and USS. Bonhomme Richard LHD-6 last year, or even a Bunkering Barge in Harbor! Interesting to know that all Tugboats come with fire suppression pumps and nozzles to fight fires. I see too that a lot of Ports now have purpose built Firefighting Tugs like the one in Mayport, Florida at Ft. George Island that I saw moored behind a fire station. It serves Naval Station Mayport, BAE Shipyard, and the Port of Jacksonville, Florida. Thanks for sharing another awesome video Captain and all your time it takes to upload it, edit it, and post it. Hope to see more! Hope that you and the crew have a blessed day! CUOTO! 🇺🇸⚓️⛴
Thank you for watching. NYC has a beautiful firefighting boat (Big Boat, and a bunch or smaller as well). As always, I would like to remind you that we try very hard on here to not directly name, Tugs, Companies or Custormers. It tends to get me in trouble with my employer. CUOTO
Always had a shipboard firefighting class every year before deploying to an Aircraft carrier, 'cause when you're at sea, when ya call the fire Department. THAT'S YOU!!! There ain't a front yard to gather on and watch.
Great info my friend, I have learned something in every video so far. You are very professional and easy to understand. Keep doing what you doing the way you doing. Rubber Baby Buggy Bumper! say that 5 times fast....lol
Excellent life saver video. When I did my STD I mean STCW in Washington State at the states school the claim to fame was they are the last school to use the fuel ( gas, Wood, etc ) we are fighting not gas as the other schools. Not sure if that’d true or not but sounded good. First day of school in the middle of no where as we walked into the trailer classroom the instructor said and pointed to the two fire exits before even introducing himself. That has left a lasting impression on me over everything we learned and did. Know the exits before you enter. He also said that we will be learning every thing those State firemen marching by us training will learn just in a very condensed time. Of course it was the hottest day of the summer and we could only take our equipment off at lunch. I couldn’t run to my car fast enough to bast in the AC. BANGED a couple coffees, dried myself off and quickly eat my lunch. Before we started after lunch the instructor had us all take our pulse and mine was 100. Not to bad with a couple cups of coffee when the instructor asked what it was and asked if he could take it. The best part was my partner said I didn’t take our pulse last time I took this class and my answer was some one probably died and he agreed. Speaking of lifesaving devices. Where’s yous beer(s) and knife? What’s a Captain without them.
@TomBatSea- my dad left his seabag in our front hallway for a few weeks. For whatever reason, my mom emptied it then stored her summer clothes inside. Well, dad shipped out. Mom forgot about the "summer storage situation". Dad was stuck buying clothes when he got into some port. Thankfully, his best friend from childhood and AB shipped out with him & was able to borrow some clothes. Overall, dad stated:" when I get home leave my seabag alone." He was stuck with mom's summer clothes hanging around until he returned from Port Said, Egypt. Lol
I'm originally from Rhode Island. I just found your down loads and I can't help thinking that I've met you! I now make my port in Edisto island sc Anyway I'm enjoying the videos
GREAT VIDEO Tim !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW NEVER too long when it's about safety. I did notice one thing that maybe I didn't see or hear you mention. It was with the emergency air supply stations. I think there should be a battery powered light that illuminates the station with reflective take on it, in the event that all the power goes out and it is dark in the space.
Thank you for watching Matt. You are absolutely correct. I should have pointed that out. In all of our manned spaces, we have DC powered emergency lighting. CUOTO
My understanding is that when CO2 is used the space needs to be sealed up for days, even as much as a week, for the gasses to all drop below their auto-ignition temperature. Once you pull that switch, don't open the door until you are at a dock with several fire engines there. I'd love to see a video on the Arthur Kill and other tugboat and barge graveyards. i was surprised to find out how many there were in that part of the world.
I'll never forget fire training at Great Lakes Navy boot camp.. they put us in a fire house with a half wall, fuel on one side , us on the other , lit the fuel and let the flames vent out right over our heads. had us put it out with only water...fine fan of misted water..pushed the fire right into the corner and cooled it off till it goes out , this 17 year old was scared half to death....lol
First hand experience, even a small fire at sea is an very BIG deal. I was 18 nm from the nearest land which was a rock. Third anchor chaffed thru solar panel wire which burnt at the battery. No wind and disabled engine. CG arrived 90 min later, inspected damage and insisted they tow me in. 5 hours but everybody safe. PS everyone on my boat wears PFD all the time as I don't swim.
Thank you for watching Chris. Fire is never good except in your woman. It's ever more concerning when connected to 2.4 million gallons of petroleum. Lol. Be safe and I'll CUOTO
Tim I look forward to your videos each week. My time on any ships was a Caribbean cruise, and some fishing vessels in San Francisco Bay or the Pacific Ocean also my brother had a 17 foot inboard/outboard we used for fishing and skiing. But now I dont go out fishing anymore because I'm in a power chair now. Keep the videos coming. CUOTO ⚓⚓🛳🛳
Thank you for watching. I would like to say that we spend a considerable amount of time on safety and training. That is a true statement. How ever, I also think that a more accurate response may be that no one ever spends to much time on safety. No one has ever said in a debriefing "I wish we hadn't trained so much". CUOTO
Easily the hottest episode to date! In High School I had to pull the CO2 release for the suppression system for a restaurant I was cooking in WHAT A MESS, and man is it hard to breathe... but, grease fires do NOT give you lots of options
What a fantastic video. I love your attitude about this topic. It’s so important! Keep them coming, would love to know more about other safety features.
Thank you for watching. I see that you are subscribed, but I am wondering if you have seen the other videos on safety (Abandon Ship and A Plan for that)? If not, check them out. If you have seen them, stay tuned for more. CUOTO
As a electrician doing fire alarm systems a exhaust hood at a restaurant is the same. Supply and return. You pull the fire alarm and the supply fans shut off exhaust fans come on and all electrical or gas shuts off also through a shunt trip
Cool. Thank you for watching Jeff. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new contnent every Tuesday. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea already subscribed brother. I was also a deckhand at one point down south for a company in Cape Canaveral and ran a push tug for a company doing marine construction
Thank you for watching Jim. I am still practicing. I bought a cheap one to learn how to fly. I think it may be really cool in the future for the channel. I tried to shoot us doing an assist job in Newark a couple weeks ago, but we were to close to the airport and it would not allow me to fly. CUOTO
Thanks for sharing this with us Tim :) Excellent calls with the Co2 in the old days (lol) I ran akitchen of 75 and we had Halon go off twice by accident, scary scary stuff to be sure. Nice they give you the emergency air and the 20 second alarm. Keep on keeping on!
Thank you for watching Eric. It's funny, our CO2 system is normal to me and yet I had never considered that commercial kitchens would of course need them as well. And an accidental discharge would ruin more that just a few dinners I am sure. CUOTO
That’s one thing I wish we’d have covered in fire school was ship board fires especially with the particular school I went to be close the shores of Lake Erie with ore boats/ and other Great Lake shipping vessels constantly coming through Sandusky bay
Thank you for watching Rylee and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Drachinifel (hope I spelled that right) did something like this a little while back with a damage control video. Tim, you did one better with your brothers example and how you were able to show things on the equipment
Great series Tim. Fires can be super scary if you’re at least not prepared. My cousin is a firefighter out in CA and some of the stuff he’s seen with the forest fires is unimaginable. #CUOTO
It is so freaking odd you post a video like this. So my story. My fiance and my dad and i were fishing in the lower potomac near DC fishing. So i get the idea to make some coffee with my butane stove. So the heat goes to the can and it ruptures.. Flames about 3 feet in all directions around the stove. Thank goodness my dad grabs a 5 gallon bucket of good old river water and douses it. Thank goodness the fire went out. But sure did burn some vinal on the boat. Thank goodness we were able to take care of it. Thank you for the video Tim. #CUOTO
Thank you for watching Tyler. Yes Sir. And up north too. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider Subscribing as I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Wife made me use my own washer dryer in the basement after a shift. I agree about the odor ( I kinda liked it) . But I do think it’s a good idea because of all the hazardous chemicals around Port Newark etc. and isolating them from the family laundry .
Hm, here's my thinking. You said you close all the vents and then push CO₂ to the chamber, but CO₂ is heavier than air. If everything is closed you'd be pressurizing the room but oxygen would stay in there. Perhaps 150% CO₂ requirement is there so that it can push out air and remain in the room, which might be why exhaust vents are at the highest point (from what I could see). Great video on fire safety it seems. Am an amateur but this kind of information is great to have. Knowledge is power.
Thank you for watching! So the hull is obviously water/air tight. But the topside are not. The intake and exhaust vents get closed, but will always let pressurized air escape as the heavier CO2 fills from the bottom up. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea ah. That's awesome. I thoguht that might be the case. Also I remember accident where number of people died for going into chain lock to tie the chain from rattling. They died because of CO2 accumulation due to iron oxidising. Not a fire related thing but goes to show CO2 is not to be messed with.
@@MladenMijatov yes. That is actually not from CO2 but rather a lack of breathable O2. The iron in the steel reacts with the O2 in the air to form rust or iron oxide. When air (normally 21% O2) falls to below %16, things get very bad. CUOTO
Great job Tim. Lots of very good information. I was in the Coast Guard for 34 Years and had to fight many fires on boats and ships. You did a great job of telling what to look out for. Good luck in the future and stay and play safe.
Thank you for watching Ted. CUOTO
When I was in the Navy, about 1/3 of our training was for damage control and fire fighting. The fire house at San Diego Basic Training made an indelible impression in my memory. Charging into a diesel fire with fuel at our feet sure made us figure out how to be fire fighters.
OOOOFFFF. That's crazy. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
I was an officer but even as an O-3 I had to requalify in firefighting at NavSta SD.
During my career as a train operator for the NYC subways, we had "Fire School" once every two years, and fire instruction from field supervisors regularly. Part of our training was to go in a fire simulator building which was filled with artificial smoke and all the lights were put out so you were there in total darkness in dense smoke and you had to get yourself and the rest of the class out safely. Some of us panicked which is normal for extreme circumstances for some, so we had to deal with that as well. Underground fires are common in the subways, trash and grease fires. Equipment fires are serious because of the toxic nature of chemical smoke in confined tunnels. Fire safety and knowing what to do is extremely important regardless where you are. I enjoyed a peek into your fire control procedures and equipment which is far different than mine were. I appreciate the time you take to make these videos, I find them very informative since I am a curious guy by nature. Thank you and stay safe Tim. CUOTO
Coney Island Yard is nice and the sound sys there is sweet for simulating trains & noises. (Current Signals employee)
Very cool Ken. Thank you for watching and sharing. CUOTO
Thank your for watching Lycos Surfer
I was fortunate to train in a “smokehouse”. We had to hug the walls as we proceeded in just so we could keep our bearings and not fall into hazards, stairs, etc. I want scared as it was a training exercise. Worst case, they could I open up the windows to ventilate and let in light. Comedian Stephan Wright said “I’m not afraid of heights. I’m afraid of widths.” 😂😂. As far as training on fighting hydrocarbon fires, there ode one drill where I was on an external fixed fire monitor /Nozzle. I was applying cooling to the structure and sweeping away ground fires from the attack teams. Well, they “isolated” the fuel source by closing a valve. They started to back out as the fire was dying down. I just happened to be in front of the fuel control station. The administrators started chuckling. It was at that time I heard a swooooshhhh, and I immediately knew what was up. They added fuel which flared up the blaze. Simulating possibly a failed flange. Fire training is pretty safe, unless you’re around me. Well, if you were around be that one particular day. I guess I can admit this here and now. We finished our training on a “prop”. We had to tear down the hoses and nozzles and SCOTT air packs and return them to their stations. Well, I was eager and energized. I went to the hydrant to block in the water to our hoses. Luckily, the valves were 1/; turn fully open / closed. Just as I closed the water to one hose, I hear shouting from the crew an the prop next lot over. “We lost water!!!!” Doh! I quickly turned back on the water. Hoses were everywhere crossing over any number of hoses. It would appear that I shut off the water to an attack team next door. Luckily, nobody was hurt. You are the first to hear of this. A burden I have carried with me for years. Not so much from guilt. Yeah, I messed up. But, more out of embarrassment. Lastly, learn the class of fire extinguishers, what they are for, what NOT to use them for, and how to apply them. Class A,B,C,D- normal combustibles like wood, paper, etc. Oil, greases, gasoline, etc. Electrical, And finally burning metals such as magnesium. Always have a lid handy when cooking on the stovetop, so you don’t have to scramble around looking for one to snuff out a pan grease / oil fire.
Last but not the least by the any stretch. Train. Train. Train. I can personally attest that training has proven to be the difference in surviving potential catastrophe and just motivating an incident where everyone walks away uninjured or worse. ✌️🤙
@@perrydiddle3698 you are right about training. That's where it is 'safer' to make mistakes. We had a lot of training courses of all types, some because of the number of people we were responsible for in case of fire or equipment breakdowns and all. I didn't use all of the things I had training for, but that was fine with me. Boring days in the subways are good days. Nothing exciting is ever good.
One of the surprises I got during my Coast Guard firefighting training, was what happens when you discharge water in a confined space that’s on fire. You produce steam! That steam instantly penetrates your bunker gear and you are getting cooked! You learn quickly not to go charging into the fire with a hose. Another good video Tim! #CUOTO
Thank you for watching Bill. Oh yes. Very valid and true! CUOTO
The things from this video that struck home. Communicate....what is normal..... know the boat.... And benefits or dangers of CO2. Removal of the oxygen.... removal of any fuel that can feed a fire...
Great work again. Watching boat handling is magical
Putting everyone on point for safety is not only the responsibility of the captain but Is part of every ones way to keep safe. A ship / rig ./ boat is not a job. You don’t go home at night you go to sleep within the same environment. When you sleep you expect the on shift crew / crew to look out for you as you did for them.. If the crew do this then sleep is sound refreshing and relaxing. If you worry that the other crew are not then ... life is not good and the boat / ship is not happy.
One of my biggest fears was not getting a full muster, where the numbers on the Persons On Board ( POB) list didn’t match the head count. If everyone was accounted for releasing the CO2 was a easy choice. If the numbers didn’t... who is missing ?????...are they in the space where you want to release the CO2? Releasing the CO2 would kill them IF they were in the space. What a choice Kill 1 and save the x00. Or wait and put the rest in danger....
Its not driving the boat its the rest that a captain needs to be able to handle and live with..... I hope no one has to make that choice... a tug with a crew of under 10 is easy to head count a drilling rig with 200. Or accommodation vessel with 400 is different.
You are opening the eyes of the none commercial boating world to the dangers and things to consider, think about.... Thinking about them is the first 10 steps in planning to survive.
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I don't know your name, but I wish I did. That was beautiful. Thank you very much. CUOTO
When I was a rookie in the petroleum refining business, I was working at a process unit ( the older one of two units). I walked across the road to stop in our other unit to pick up something and shoot the 💩for a spell. We were talking when someone asked if we heard something. I said “yeah, it’s the steam hose leaking out in the pump bay (a concrete pad behind our control room that had feed pumps, reflux pumps, transfer pumps, etc.). They said “STEAM LEAK! WHAT STEAM LEAK?” I said the steam hose on a pump manifold.
Well, we have these utility steam hoses, which basically were black, and rated for 300 pasig. They had I think 11/2” Union couplings. We also had black hydrocarbon hoses rated for 500 pasig, I believe. Bathe unions on these were I believe 1”. Just a bit smaller that the steam hoses. I’ve seen them hooked up to process equipment to evacuate it, either by system pressure to a liquid / vapor recovery system, or vacuum system. I have never seen one used to transfer LPG from a pump discharge. Typically we use threaded pipe if it’s temporary, welded flanged if it’s permanent- or even temporary for things like major unit turnarounds ( used to be biannually, but last I knew was every three years) where they shut down the unit, clear it out (maybe a week or more), then turn it over to maintenance for inspections, repairs, upgrades and modifications (2-3 weeks) then closing everything up, air freeing, leak check and startup (1-2 weeks). They often target 6 weeks oil out to oil in.
But, I digress. Mi should have either taken a closer look or informed the operators what I noticed. They would have been all over it. It turned out to be a minor fitting leak with the Union (damn no good unions! Just kidding, I’m from a strong union family.lol). It was IC4 isobutane, which is a tad bit heavier hydrocarbon than propane (C3). Boiling points are 11*F for IC4 and minus 44*F for C3. The liquid boils off into a gas when released to atmospheric pressure. They can look similar in that they form visible clouds like steam does. The big difference is steam, being much hotter, rises, the hydrocarbons will sink as they are heavier than air. It was a bit breezy, and the fact that I was unaware they could use the hoses for this purpose led me to be - no. They didn’t lead me to be complacent. Complacency was all on me. I could have told them, and it could have been a non issue. Some times we have steam valve packing leaks that have ever been tightened over time til there’s no more to tighten, or the valve stem gets cut over time. One thing that makes me cringe is that some valves can be back seated. We all know closing a good gate valve (lefty Lucy, righty tighty ) should stop the flow when the gate is seated in the bottom of the valve. But, you can back that gate out all the way until it is back seated against the packing gland assembly. You can potentially undo the packing bolts, remove the retainer, clean out the stuffing box and install fresh packing and button her back up. Some, no all gate valves have this feature. Oh, back to cringing. I’ve seen valve mechanics take out the packing material on a 4” gate valve and replace it. Getting the shivers just thinking of it. Lol
Point is, if something catches your attention, say something, do something.
While I’m at on refinery safety, I might as where this with everyone. Be careful with helium balloons. That is all.
Oh, details you ask? Alrighty. I was mopping up the oil and grease from the pump bay deck (bigger one, different unit). We use a degreaser similar to dish soap. This one happened to be red. So, I’m mopping up around trying to be extra careful as it’s a bit slippery. What do I see? A gas chromatograph stream analyzer. There are calibration gas tanks, purge gas tanks, inert gas tanks including helium. Genius and comedian that I am, I put my mouth up to a tank of helium and inhale so I can call the operators on the radio in my high pitched voice. Harmless, right? Well, since it wasn’t just a balloon, I had a tank! I inhaled, exhaled, inhaled so I could talk a long time. Just one minor flaw in my judgement. Next thing I know, I’m laying on the deck in puddles of the soapy water. Radio over there, holstered pipe wrench over there, hardhat over there, mop over there...WTF? I know, I purged out all the O2 in my lungs and passed out. I gathered my things, and returned to work. My chin started to itch. I scratched it with the back of my hand. Oops, soap on it. I wiped my hand clean and scratched it again. Oops. More RED soap on it. Hey, that ain’t soap. I went around the corner of the pump bay where our unit testing lab was. It had a mirror. I looked up at my chin in the mirror. OMG!!! My chin wasn’t there! I’d swear you could see the bone. I went out on the deck looking around for my chin. Now I’m thinking I looked like a zombie or a rotting corpse stumbling around looking for my chin. No luck. 😱 I went back to the lab. After further analysis (no pun intended - but that was a good one - lab-analysis 😂). (I know, it’s no laughing matter), I was able to determine it was just like a bad boxers cut. I was able to grab the bottom of the chin and pulled it up to meet the upper chin, and it all fit. I called my operator in charge and asked him if he could handle the sight of blood. He said “As long as it ain’t mine.” He was a Vietnam vet. I’m surprised he didn’t just hook me up with some crazy glue and let me get back to my duties. Ok. Another joke. Sorry. So, they hauled me away in an ambulance to get I think about 17 stitches. Some internal, some external. After a few weeks, I had to return to the docs to get my stitches out, then they cut open just the outer layer of skin so they could remove the internal stitches, then they restitched up the outer stitches. Ok. I just had to slip in one more joke.
So, be careful with the helium, folks. 😉✌️🤙
Perry. You have done it again. You sucked the fun out of any helium joke for all of us. LOL. Be safe my brother. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea Burst your balloon, did I?😉
@@TimBatSea I gotta watch your video again. You may have already covered it. But, I wrote a bunch of stuff on Classes of fire extinguishers, uses and handling. Unfortunately it accidentally got deleted from my clipboard. I get to the point of saying to myself “why bother”..it’s not like people are craving any words from my brain. Lol. So, I just left it alone. I’m probably writing more here than I originally had. Lol. I will add, I had a small frying pan fire. Oh man! The sky is falling! Armageddon! So, I just simply shut off the stove and placed the lid on the pan. Viola! No fire. I like to cook with a lid handy for such situations so I don’t have to fumble around looking for one.
@@perrydiddle3698 Nice!!!!
Your comments about smells are spot on. When I was in the Army in tanks and cavalry, the same applied. I was very surprised the first time I was on a Navy vessel because it smelled just like the inside of my tank. I guess it is that equipment smell. The diesel, hydraulic fluid, grease, etc. smell. The smell says I'm home!
Thankfully, my sailboats don't have that industrial smell but the concept still applies. Thanks for another great video!
Very cool Dave! Thank you for watching. CUOTO
The machinery spaces onboard a steam powered ship is even more problems you have to deal with thankfully never had to deal with any of these problems are stem leaks if gotten out of hand it could kill just as easily in the very small spaces that are onboard a ship learned that onboard a aircraft carrier
@@CletusTrucking Indeed! I was amazed at some of the crazy spaces on board a Navy ship. From the outside I the ships look huge, and of course they are. However I never expected to see such tiny and strange spaces on board. As one gets deep into the ship there are some truly unusual spaces.
What a great presentation! Especially liked the discussion about smells. Ozone, freon, lube oil, diesel oil, xylene and other solvents, cooking grease, and yes..friction each produce their distinct smell - both ordinary and when burned. This was a particular emphasis in submarine quals. I really like this series and thanks again for keeping my brain cells active.
Thank you very much Lew! I really appreciate it!! CUOTO
Thank you so much for your time and shearing your knowledge with US. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for watching Luis. CUOTO
That is so funny about the smells associated with boats and ships at sea. Submarines are the same way ... a very distinctive fuel/carbon/... 'submarine-like' smell. They all smelled the same! My wife kind of liked it, because it meant I was home and back in port.
Short sea story, I remember when we were pulling into Hong Kong, it was my turn to wash my clothes in the one washer and dryer for a 110 guys. The A-gang apparently hadn't cleaned out the lint deep inside the dryer. I was sitting there waiting for my clothes to finish drying when I noticed a six inch tongue of flame shooting out from under the dryer! We secured the dryer, got the small fire out ... and needless to say the crew razzed and reminded me that Doc tried to burn the boat. My clothes also smelled like 'Smokey the Bear' during my liberty in Hong Kong.
Fire and flooding at sea is no joke. Small fires like a clothes dryer can go downhill in a hurry! And, it's not like you can call 911 and wait for the local fire department. Drilling muscle memory! Great video Tim ... I thoroughly enjoy them. Be safe.
Thank you very much for sharing and watching! My ex wife didn't like the smell of the boat for the same reason yours did. It meant I was back in port. LOL CUOTO
@@TimBatSea 😁 Yep ...!
Can’t get enough of that drum beat in the intro.😉
Thank you for watching (and listening) Perry. I like it too. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea You’re welcome.
You are so right to learn smells. I was travelling on a train, working on my laptop. Sniff sniff - I know that smell (years of ham radio told me it was an electronic resistor smoking). Then see thin grey smoke from the cooling fan. Luckily I'd studied the laptop design, and I knew how to unclip the battery (can't rely on a software power switch once it's burning). Smoke stops - all is well
Got a weird look when IT came to repair the machine. "Can you demonstrate the fault?" "Yes - where is your flame-proof workspace?" They really expected me to plug the battery in in an office full of paper....
Stay safe, trust your nose.
😲 Thank you very much for watching. Good thinking. CUOTO
Very good video thanks very much, I lost a tug once out at sea. We ended up on the barges and watched her burn. The name of the tug was The Alice Saint Phillips.
Thank you very much for watching Woody. Wow. I'm glad you walked away from that one! CUOTO
Awesome video, definitely an important subject to raise awareness of, fires don’t happen that often, luckily. But when it happens it’s really important to know what to.
Thank you for watching. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Thanks so much for saying the EEBA is filled with air . It kills me when people call them oxygen tanks.
LOL. Why do we call it a hot water heater when it clearly is a cold water heater? LOL. Thank you very much for watching Randall. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea One of my pet peeves is hearing people say that about a water heater. If the water is hot, it doesn't need to be heated. Another thing is when people say "tuna fish". Tuna IS a fish! You don't ask for a "chicken bird" salad sandwich. Capt Tim I love your videos! Please keep them coming.
@@dwanekimmel8571 Thank you very much. New one coming out tomorrow.
Thanks Tim ! Few things frighten experienced sailors ( and especially submariners ) like fire at sea . Great video full of information on procedures and attitudes and habits neccessary to avoid fires on board.
Thank you very much for watching Jeff. I agree with you completely. CUOTO
I used to be a volunteer fireman and have seen 2 people try and put a Scott on upside down, one from our department (that succeeded) and one that started to, steeping through the shoulder straps. I look back on it now and it was one of the most hilarious deals in the world. The guy jerked it out of the box and handed it to me and another driver and we just held it the way he handed it to us. He steeped through the straps and took off around the house wide open, made about 2 rounds and never got the air turned on. We could hear him wheezing over the noise of 2 engines and a portable pump running. He did all that to rescue a propane bottle that was already outside. Thanks, Cap! GOOD memories!
😂😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Lewie. CUOTO
As an ex-Navy (Royal Australian Navy FireFighter back in the '80s), you are totally right in what you say about once the CO2 or halon dump system has been engaged. DO NOT enter the compartment or vessel until the Fire Brigade or someone with dedicated Fire Fighting facilities arrives to fight a fire if it reignites or anything else happens... There are soo many ways a fire can start from the simplest and most unimportant or unthought-of things. It is a shame to hear about your brother's wooden boat, I love wooden boats. As an Australian Volunteer Coast Guard skipper we do monthly fire drills and exercises on every vessel.
Thank you for watching and for the kind words Tim. Fire tends to be that thing many do not think about until it is out of control. Drill/train and hope you never have to use your skills. CUOTO
Tim
Great video, very informative. Love your videos.
Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
Your ears and nose are some of the best detectors on board, especially when you know the boat well. More than once while aboard the boat on which I spent the most time, I told the engineer to check something because I knew it was wrong. The engineers had not worked for months on that boat, as I had. My ears and nose knew something was different.
Thank you for watching Dan. Oh yes! If you have ever worked on a boat with an upper house or fly bridge, you will know when you suck a valve long before the engineers do. CUOTO
Thank you so much for this video. Our other weapon to fight fires is sharing stories of marine casualty experiences so the next crew doesn’t have to.
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
One thing universal - from $1K motorboat to $1M motor yacht - cleanliness can keep you from meeting that godly gentleman ! Never a professional sailor but in a skill where boats and ships were part of the realm, you soon learn habits to keep you safe and one of mine was cleanliness in confined/restricted spaces . IAC, a great video ! Thanks for your efforts !
Thank you very much Jeff!!!! I really appreciate it!!!! CUOTO
Awesome info, Tim. James.
Thank you for watching James. CUOTO
Thanks! Very informative 👍👍🙏
Thank you for watching. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Great video ....love the safety videos
Thank you Adam. CUOTO
Tim, so right about a tugboat scent. They are all different! Great video! Get some video of a stack fire! That is always an experience!
😂😂😂 Yeah, I mean, no. 😂 No fire..... 😂 Thank you for watching Peter. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea
You just made me feel old talking about the fire and grounding of North Cape! I remember Moonstone being littered with dead lobsters. You didn't have to use so many "manys" ! Lol! 1996. My buddy went and surfed Mary's Bar anyway. Regretted it immensely!
Another fascinating part of life/work on a tug. Thanks Tim.
Thank you for watching Ken. CUOTO
As a former PSO (Public Safety Officer) for a small jurisdiction, we performed as both police and fire personnel... I learned much about fires. I already had an LEO background so I lapped up the fire side of things. Ended up being both an FAO (Fire Apparatus Operator) and a CFI (Certified Fire Investigator). I completely understand your approach. Thanks for another excellent video
Thank you for your Public service Randy. We need more people like you. CUOTO
Another great vidio Tim thanks cuoto
Thank you very much Michael. CUOTO
A great video.
Thank you for watching Joseph. CUOTO
I started watching your channel to try and make sense of the Dali bridge accident and how it happened, From Mystery bay in nsw Australia i just couldn't get my head around how such a large container ship can just run into a bridge and after watching 20 or more of your excellent videos and how much control you have and the ease in which you cast off and get underway do your work each day it would seem to me that the only way to stop another major collision is for the larger ships to be forced to have several Tugs to guide them past infostructure of high value like bridges. love your videos very informative a pleasure to watch thankyou.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel Paul. There are many things to consider, and you can only manage risk. You can not eliminate it. I really appreciate your kind words. Thank you. CUOTO
I worked with a guy who, when at sea, would always sleep, fully clothed, with the lights on and the door to his room open. When asked why, he'd just reply, "Have you ever been in a fire at sea? Well, I have." One time made that much of an impression on him.
😲 Thank you for sharing Donald. CUOTO
Thank you, Tim for the tour and information.
Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
I have no doubt that you have saved some lives of recreational boaters and their families by posting this video.
Thank you so much for saying that! I really appreciate it!! CUOTO
thanks Tim, you never can go over this safe rules and safety gear often enough. practice with out saying is Key. Great Job SEE YOU ON THE ONE
Thank you for watching Marie. CUOTO
Hey That Fire Lesson was Very Interesting,Stay Safe Keep onTUGGING!!!
Thank you Hugo. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea Do you have videos on common duties of a deck hand.E.G.tie up to H bits,cleats,tying up to barges etc. Thanks
@@johnnyangel9163 Thank you for watching Johnny. I have tried to get my deckhands to cam up, but they wont have any of it. I did do video you might like called " Basic seamanship 101" CUOTO
#1 - FOB #2 - MOB is next and I think you have covered most of the safety stuff. Then, we have to think about damage to the boat. Your doing a good job explaining it and keeping it concise. I think most of the information can be modified for pleasure craft. Three thumbs up.
Thank you for watching Richard. CUOTO
So thankful you dedicated the time and effort to make this video! Safety on board is the heart of all maritime operations as you so clearly described. Firefighting and fire prevention training will always be the #1 priority on a vessel. All the best from St Marys, GA where salvage operations continue on the Golden Ray. It is now declared the most costly disaster in US commercial maritime history. CUOTO 🇺🇸⛴⚓️
Thank you for watching Dick. I have friends from our company working on the removal of the fuel and friends that work for the salvage company that is dismantling it. What a mess? CUOTO
The only saving grace of this disaster is every RoRo officer that steams by can see the awful results that await them and their vessels when simple ballasting confirmations are not performed. Each month, 40-50 car carriers transit this port as the second busiest on the east coast next to NJ. The channel is narrow so crews get a close-up eyeful as they pass. Thank your friends and colleagues on our behalf for their fine work! CUOTO
That was greatiam a firefighter to very good explaining
Thank you very much for watching Lee. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea I already subscribe to your channel I like the videos I was a commercial fishermen on a 85 foot trawler here in North Carolina and Cape may New Jersey
Smells. Hmmm. Upon returning to Los Angeles from our weeklong fire training at Texas A&M University Fire Science Academy, our bunker gear bags got flagged at the airport TSA. Gee, I don’t know why they might be concerned with the loading if great bags with heavy odors of diesel. It’s not like they could be packed with...wait. Good call by TSA. We even put the bunker gear inside heavy duty garbage bags and tied them up tight. I guess their chemical swabs also picked up hydrocarbon detection. We had some “splainin’” to do. But, we had everything (ze papers) in order. But, I’ve heard of an oxygen tank that was improperly stowed take down a jet airliner.✌️🤙
Wow. Perry, are you that guy that gets the TSA line so backed up? LOL CUOTO
@@TimBatSea Ha ha. Well, there was that one time. I try to avoid the TSA, so, my air travel has been suffering for it. Lol. BTW, ironically, knowing how Texas is known for its friendliness and hospitality, we flew into Austin (lots of good reviews). We then took a bus to College Station for the training. We just get out in the road from the airport. I’m looking out the window taking in the sights, when one friendly gentleman flips us the bird. 😂. Now, I’d expect that from the Big Apple, but, the folks there were the most friendliest.
@@perrydiddle3698 LOL
Great stuff Capt, shipboard fires are no joke, I was onboard a coast guard cutter in 69 tied up in Japan when we had a fire in the sea bag locker.
I was taken off in a stretcher from smoke inhalation, not a fun time!!!
Oh man. That sucks! Thank you very much for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
A lot of my career was spent working and teaching on occupational safety and health issues. Really liked this video. Well done.
Thank you very much Dick. I appreciate that very much. CUOTO
OOPS on my previous post. Just found your video on the engine room which answered my questions. Thanks for great vids.
Thank you again Tom. Glad you found them. CUOTO
Many years ago, the company insurance provider told us if we were not certified firemen, we could only use a fire extinguisher to get out or save another person, we were not allowed to put out the fire and save property including the helicopters we flew. Yeah Right!
Thank you for watching Donald. CUOTO
Keep the awesome videos coming Captain Tim! I hope that you are doing well! Those Vane Brothers Tugs are awesome and I love the white, green, and black paint job too. It's definitely bad to have a fire at sea whether its aboard a Container Ship, a Warship like USS. Enterprise CVN-65 on January 14, 1969, USS. Forrestal CV-59 on July 29, 1967, and USS. Bonhomme Richard LHD-6 last year, or even a Bunkering Barge in Harbor! Interesting to know that all Tugboats come with fire suppression pumps and nozzles to fight fires. I see too that a lot of Ports now have purpose built Firefighting Tugs like the one in Mayport, Florida at Ft. George Island that I saw moored behind a fire station. It serves Naval Station Mayport, BAE Shipyard, and the Port of Jacksonville, Florida. Thanks for sharing another awesome video Captain and all your time it takes to upload it, edit it, and post it. Hope to see more! Hope that you and the crew have a blessed day! CUOTO! 🇺🇸⚓️⛴
Thank you for watching. NYC has a beautiful firefighting boat (Big Boat, and a bunch or smaller as well). As always, I would like to remind you that we try very hard on here to not directly name, Tugs, Companies or Custormers. It tends to get me in trouble with my employer. CUOTO
Always had a shipboard firefighting class every year before deploying to an Aircraft carrier, 'cause when you're at sea, when ya call the fire Department. THAT'S YOU!!! There ain't a front yard to gather on and watch.
Very true. Thank again for watching Hank. CUOTO
Great info my friend, I have learned something in every video so far. You are very professional and easy to understand. Keep doing what you doing the way you doing. Rubber Baby Buggy Bumper! say that 5 times fast....lol
😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Bradley. CUOTO
Excellent life saver video.
When I did my STD I mean STCW in Washington State at the states school the claim to fame was they are the last school to use the fuel ( gas, Wood, etc ) we are fighting not gas as the other schools. Not sure if that’d true or not but sounded good. First day of school in the middle of no where as we walked into the trailer classroom the instructor said and pointed to the two fire exits before even introducing himself. That has left a lasting impression on me over everything we learned and did. Know the exits before you enter. He also said that we will be learning every thing those State firemen marching by us training will learn just in a very condensed time. Of course it was the hottest day of the summer and we could only take our equipment off at lunch. I couldn’t run to my car fast enough to bast in the AC. BANGED a couple coffees, dried myself off and quickly eat my lunch. Before we started after lunch the instructor had us all take our pulse and mine was 100. Not to bad with a couple cups of coffee when the instructor asked what it was and asked if he could take it. The best part was my partner said I didn’t take our pulse last time I took this class and my answer was some one probably died and he agreed.
Speaking of lifesaving devices. Where’s yous beer(s) and knife? What’s a Captain without them.
LOL.."STD" You filled this comment with great one liners. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
As a professional FF for several decades this was a very good and informative video.
Thank you very much Greg! I really appreciate it!! Be safe out there and thank you for keeping us safe with the things you do. CUOTO
@TomBatSea- my dad left his seabag in our front hallway for a few weeks. For whatever reason, my mom emptied it then stored her summer clothes inside. Well, dad shipped out. Mom forgot about the "summer storage situation". Dad was stuck buying clothes when he got into some port. Thankfully, his best friend from childhood and AB shipped out with him & was able to borrow some clothes. Overall, dad stated:" when I get home leave my seabag alone." He was stuck with mom's summer clothes hanging around until he returned from Port Said, Egypt. Lol
LOL I have heard many sea stories, but I have never heard that one. I love it!! Thank you very much for sharing! CUOTO
A common Navy expression: a fire at sea can ruin your whole day. We had enough explosives aboard to please the Gruccis. CUOTO, Tim.
Thank you for watching Jacques. CUOTO
The old Air clutches on old single screw boats !
Thank you for watching Ed. You remember those? CUOTO
I'm originally from Rhode Island. I just found your down loads and I can't help thinking that I've met you!
I now make my port in Edisto island sc
Anyway I'm enjoying the videos
Thank you for watching Len. It is very possible our paths have crossed. I used to sell auto parts and many people remember me from those days. CUOTO
Another great video. To the list of “go over it, again.”
Thank you for watching and for your support of the channel Eduardo. CUOTO
GREAT VIDEO Tim !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW NEVER too long when it's about safety. I did notice one thing that maybe I didn't see or hear you mention. It was with the emergency air supply stations. I think there should be a battery powered light that illuminates the station with reflective take on it, in the event that all the power goes out and it is dark in the space.
Thank you for watching Matt. You are absolutely correct. I should have pointed that out. In all of our manned spaces, we have DC powered emergency lighting. CUOTO
Great fire safety message! Very interesting, I learned alot. Thanks Tim
Thank you for watching Rob. CUOTO
My understanding is that when CO2 is used the space needs to be sealed up for days, even as much as a week, for the gasses to all drop below their auto-ignition temperature. Once you pull that switch, don't open the door until you are at a dock with several fire engines there.
I'd love to see a video on the Arthur Kill and other tugboat and barge graveyards. i was surprised to find out how many there were in that part of the world.
Thank you for watching. There aren't as many as they used to be, but you can still make out a couple. CUOTO
I'll never forget fire training at Great Lakes Navy boot camp.. they put us in a fire house with a half wall, fuel on one side , us on the other , lit the fuel and let the flames vent out right over our heads. had us put it out with only water...fine fan of misted water..pushed the fire right into the corner and cooled it off till it goes out , this 17 year old was scared half to death....lol
Wow! I bet! Thank you for watching James! CUOTO
Very good video on fires an fire drills, be safe
Thank you for watching Philip. CUOTO
First hand experience, even a small fire at sea is an very BIG deal. I was 18 nm from the nearest land which was a rock. Third anchor chaffed thru solar panel wire which burnt at the battery. No wind and disabled engine. CG arrived 90 min later, inspected damage and insisted they tow me in. 5 hours but everybody safe. PS everyone on my boat wears PFD all the time as I don't swim.
Thank you for watching Chris. Fire is never good except in your woman. It's ever more concerning when connected to 2.4 million gallons of petroleum. Lol. Be safe and I'll CUOTO
Very useful and very well explained Tim!
Great thing to know for the young people getting into this industry
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Hey Tim! Been a bit, but here i am! Hope you and yours are safe and healthy. Thanks for doing what you do!
Welcome back! And I too hope that you and your family had a wonderful holiday. Be safe and I'll CUOTO
This was a great video. The crew is well educated on fire safety. Well done Tim. CUOTO
Thank you very much for watching! CUOTO
Thanks, this is a great series. Finding your point of view very interesting and I am learning lots.
Thank you for watching Paul. If you are new to the channel, welcome. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Tim I look forward to your videos each week. My time on any ships was a Caribbean cruise, and some fishing vessels in San Francisco Bay or the Pacific Ocean also my brother had a 17 foot inboard/outboard we used for fishing and skiing. But now I dont go out fishing anymore because I'm in a power chair now.
Keep the videos coming.
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Thank you very much for watching Dave. I really appreciate it. CUOTO
Good video, thank you. Interesting to see how much time is invested in savety. And appliances. CUOTO!
Thank you for watching. I would like to say that we spend a considerable amount of time on safety and training. That is a true statement. How ever, I also think that a more accurate response may be that no one ever spends to much time on safety. No one has ever said in a debriefing "I wish we hadn't trained so much". CUOTO
Easily the hottest episode to date!
In High School I had to pull the CO2 release for the suppression system for a restaurant I was cooking in
WHAT A MESS, and man is it hard to breathe... but, grease fires do NOT give you lots of options
LOL.."Hottest episode" LOL Thank you for watching Greg. CUOTO
Great video
Thank you for watching Paul. CUOTO
Hi Captain Tim, great video, like your answers to our comments, great footage of wild
seas. Haye a Happy Holiday and a Happy New Year, stay safe
Thank you very much and same to you and your family
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What a fantastic video. I love your attitude about this topic. It’s so important! Keep them coming, would love to know more about other safety features.
Thank you for watching. I see that you are subscribed, but I am wondering if you have seen the other videos on safety (Abandon Ship and A Plan for that)? If not, check them out. If you have seen them, stay tuned for more. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea just saw them! Loved them!
As a electrician doing fire alarm systems a exhaust hood at a restaurant is the same. Supply and return. You pull the fire alarm and the supply fans shut off exhaust fans come on and all electrical or gas shuts off also through a shunt trip
Cool. Thank you for watching Jeff. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new contnent every Tuesday. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea already subscribed brother. I was also a deckhand at one point down south for a company in Cape Canaveral and ran a push tug for a company doing marine construction
Great information Tim!
Thank you for watching Richard. CUOTO
Another great video, tks Tim
Thank you so much for watching. CUOTO
Impressive! Much more is ready than I ever imagined!
Dave CUOTO
Thank you for watching Dave. CUOTO
Good stuff well done
Thank you again for watching Scott. CUOTO
Like the new drone intro
Thank you for watching Jim. I am still practicing. I bought a cheap one to learn how to fly. I think it may be really cool in the future for the channel. I tried to shoot us doing an assist job in Newark a couple weeks ago, but we were to close to the airport and it would not allow me to fly. CUOTO
Awesome content. Enjoyed watching very much. Stay safe and have a great day.
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Well done!
Thank you very much for watching Bob. CUOTO
Good morning Captain Tim, Thank you for the information and video!! Take care and stay safe!! #CUOTO, 👍😎🇬🇧.
Good Morning Wayne. Thank you as always for watching from across the pond. CUOTO
Nice opening drone shot. Your production values are going up exponentially! Very informative, and definitely not too long. CUOTO.
Thank you very much for saying so Jan!!! CUOTO
Great information here. Very informative. Keep em coming Tim!! CUOTO
Thank you very much Wayne. CUOTO
interesting video thank you tim
Thank you James. CUOTO
Great show!!! Having done my STCW (Summer in Florida) I can relate.
Thank you for watching. WOW. STCW class in Florida in the summer? That must have been brutal. CUOTO
Thanks for sharing this with us Tim :) Excellent calls with the Co2 in the old days (lol) I ran akitchen of 75 and we had Halon go off twice by accident, scary scary stuff to be sure. Nice they give you the emergency air and the 20 second alarm. Keep on keeping on!
Thank you for watching Eric. It's funny, our CO2 system is normal to me and yet I had never considered that commercial kitchens would of course need them as well. And an accidental discharge would ruin more that just a few dinners I am sure. CUOTO
That’s one thing I wish we’d have covered in fire school was ship board fires especially with the particular school I went to be close the shores of Lake Erie with ore boats/ and other Great Lake shipping vessels constantly coming through Sandusky bay
Thank you for watching John. If you are new to channel, welcome. Please consider Subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Very informative, thank you
Thank you for watching Rylee and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Safety is such a great topic! Thanks. CUOTO!
Thank you Kirk. And a big thank you for being a Patron! CUOTO
Drachinifel (hope I spelled that right) did something like this a little while back with a damage control video. Tim, you did one better with your brothers example and how you were able to show things on the equipment
Thank you very much for watching! CUOTO
Hi TimBat another great vid. You mentioned getting your head scrambled when things go wrong. Military pilots call that a "helmet fire"
LOL.OMG!!! I love that!!!!!! I am going to use that for a long long time! Thank you for watching and sharing that nugget with all of us Andy. CUOTO
Great series Tim. Fires can be super scary if you’re at least not prepared. My cousin is a firefighter out in CA and some of the stuff he’s seen with the forest fires is unimaginable. #CUOTO
Thank you for watching Jeff. And thank you cousin for all of us. CUOTO
I'm a charter skipper.... my boat smells like liquor :)
LOL. I bet you wished it smelled more like fish every once in a while. LOL Thank you for watching Matt!!! You made my day. CUOTO
Great video, Capt. CUOTO
Thank you very much Mark! CUOTO
Those line throwing devices would make a awesome coffee mug afterwards!
LOL. Great idea! Thank you for watching. CUOTO
It is so freaking odd you post a video like this. So my story. My fiance and my dad and i were fishing in the lower potomac near DC fishing. So i get the idea to make some coffee with my butane stove. So the heat goes to the can and it ruptures.. Flames about 3 feet in all directions around the stove. Thank goodness my dad grabs a 5 gallon bucket of good old river water and douses it. Thank goodness the fire went out. But sure did burn some vinal on the boat. Thank goodness we were able to take care of it. Thank you for the video Tim. #CUOTO
WoW! That will make for a different kind of day fishing Troy!!! Thank you for watching and please be safe out there. CUOTO
Starting to see a lot of y'alls boats in LA / LB harbor
Thank you for watching Tyler. Yes Sir. And up north too. If you are new to the channel, welcome. Please consider Subscribing as I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
This was really interesting, thank you for sharing.
Thank you for watching Deborah. CUOTO
Well done
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Wife made me use my own washer dryer in the basement after a shift. I agree about the odor ( I kinda liked it) . But I do think it’s a good idea because of all the hazardous chemicals around Port Newark etc. and isolating them from the family laundry .
LOL. True. No one is surprised when you bring up a three headed fish. LOL. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Losing ones home because of dryer lint at work certainly would suck
Thank you for watching Mark. It is often the little things that cause to biggest problems. CUOTO
Hm, here's my thinking. You said you close all the vents and then push CO₂ to the chamber, but CO₂ is heavier than air. If everything is closed you'd be pressurizing the room but oxygen would stay in there. Perhaps 150% CO₂ requirement is there so that it can push out air and remain in the room, which might be why exhaust vents are at the highest point (from what I could see).
Great video on fire safety it seems. Am an amateur but this kind of information is great to have. Knowledge is power.
Thank you for watching! So the hull is obviously water/air tight. But the topside are not. The intake and exhaust vents get closed, but will always let pressurized air escape as the heavier CO2 fills from the bottom up. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea ah. That's awesome. I thoguht that might be the case. Also I remember accident where number of people died for going into chain lock to tie the chain from rattling. They died because of CO2 accumulation due to iron oxidising. Not a fire related thing but goes to show CO2 is not to be messed with.
@@MladenMijatov yes. That is actually not from CO2 but rather a lack of breathable O2. The iron in the steel reacts with the O2 in the air to form rust or iron oxide. When air (normally 21% O2) falls to below %16, things get very bad. CUOTO