I was about 20 years old in 1996 on my way home from NY to London after finishing my year-long Au-pair job in USA. I was on stand-by-ticket waiting for TWA800 to Paris during mid-day that day. But due to delays for TWA800 i was bumped up and booked a ticket with another TWA-flight. Direct to my destination London instead. One little change of a flight-ticket can totally change everything .... 😥😥🤔🤔🤔😲😲😲😲
Sometimes, delays and disappprovals can save us from danger. Believe it or not, me and my parents were almost taken by the ISIS if they decided to confine me in our local public hosptal. Luckily, my mom's instinct let her decide to bring me in the other hospital even it's 1 hour faraway from our province. Then at 3pm, we recieved text messages that the ISIS group had captured our hospital and killed some innocent people and policemen.
John Lydon (sex pistols singer) & his wife Nora missed their flight from Germany to the US, because Nora took so long to pack her case. The flight they missed was Pan Am 103 that exploded over Lockerbie. They didn't let their family know they'd missed the flight, so they were understandably going out of their minds trying to find out.
Just to point out, if you had made the flight, history would have been different. Maybe the flight would not have been delayed in the heat with the air con going full blast Or something else.
I have always accepted that there are some things in this life we will never know. I have had such questions in the deaths of people in my own Family. The hardest thing for me was coming to terms with that. Thank you CNN.
I still find it hard to accept that 9/11 has happened and I always fear of crashing into buildings whenever I’m on a plane and then I refuse to accept the deaths of the passengers of United 93 because they’re my heroes. I’ve hated planes ever since coming very close to 9/11
@@user-fi6qr8wb9u, the whole UK/Canadian Mayday series goes deeper into the NTSB investigation side of things and has more concrete evidence of what potentially happened to the plane. To this day, the FBI has tried numerous times to confirm their suspicions without much success.
My Love and warm thoughts go to all the families of the passengers and crew who perished in this terrible tragedy ❤❤🙏 May the passengers and crew RIP🙏❤️❤️
I remember this happening almost down to the minute. I was in the waiting room to the ER thinking I was having a heart issue. Then this happened and was being broadcast on the tv up on the wall. Dear God, that was the last thing I needed to be seeing. It turned out I was having panic attacks instead of a heart issue, but I'll never forget the stress of seeing this unfold.
This happened to me after watching Come and See the most horrifying war movie ever made in 1985, I thought I was actually in the war but it was just the nightmares triggering everything. I’ve never experienced a panic attack like it because I was so severely traumatised that taking it all out on Woody was the best thing yet since he didn’t understand what I was feeling
I just took on a job at a UK airport, my training suggested a TWA aircraft that had an electrical fault , and to report any electrical socket issues . I am not saying it was this flight . But my on my training it stated an electrical fault with a TWA aircraft.
so it is the accident of 1996, and 2014 is when this documentary was made? I find it somewhat unclear (skipping your vision on the first 30 seconds) maybe placing the date 1996 in the title or info tabs underneath would help.
Planes sitting on a tarmac for several hours, does not cause a plane to explode. This happens many times everyday at every airport. Using this as an excuse is ridiculous.
It wasn't just it sitting on the tarmac for hours. That was a part of a string of events that caused the explosion. Taking that singularly as your arguement for why you don't believe the evidence is disingenuous. Not to mention it hasn't happened since because they put protocols in place and better insulted the wiring around the ac units and fuel tank.
@daniellem7398 no protocol was applied after that. How can they do it for African Airlines with their old jets and hot weather? Even if there is a protocol after 1996, Why something like this hadn't happened in years before 1996? Chain of events made by team to cover up a terrorist attack and save Clinton from doing any retaliation. Look at the faces of those 2 agents, you will realise that they are lying.
Its because that day was a very hot humid day the plane was delayed for 2 hours meaning the air conditioning was running on high for 2 hours causing the packs to overheat leading to the fuel to become flammable
The weakest link in the official story is that "after the explosion, the front part separated and the rear part of the 747 continued to fly up for at least 3 thousand feet". They know that it is impossible. No model plane, no accurate simulation, no real world case can justify such a ridiculous claim. When the front part of a jet as big as a 747 separated harshly, all the balance and dynamic stability would be drastically and quickly lost. the rear part starts rotating and falling down, because the gravity center shifted back many meters. They know that, that's why whenever they come across this point they by pass it quickly. That FBI animation is nonense. Anybody with minimum experience will tell you that flying up a few thousand feet without the front part is impossible. Also, it is in contrary to all the witnesses' testimonies.
This is spot on. The zoom climb never happened. However, I believe its purpose was to close the lid on all the CT mongering, as by that time they had a credibility issue. It was not necessarily because of a cover-up.
Perhaps you could show the simulation that you have made, along with force calculations that demonstrates that your idea of the breakup sequence is more accurate than the official report?
@@LordSandwichII I did. Neither in computer simulations nor in model plane tests, it is possible to see something similar. The FBI animation is just an animation. Not a computer simulation. There is no model behind that. That's the difference between CS and animation. Can you consider Marvel movies as documentaries? Why not? Simply because they are not real. That animation is just a parody. In my simulations never the rear part can continue flying let alone moving higher. Assume that CWT explodes. In their animation the front part that got separated is meters in front of the wing roots. That's impossible. In reality after an explosion over there fuel in the wings would be engulfed and exploded and wings would be blown off and a ball of fire would crash down. But if something hits one of the wings near its root, and that something is sharppnels of a missile fired by Al Qaeda terrorists, it matches the eyewitnesses testimony. Clinton wanted that cover up.
You know it wasn’t terrorism because the FBI tried SO hard to prove that it was. From Day 1 they were convinced that the plane was taken down by either a bomb or a missile. From the interviews that they gave it was almost like they wanted it to be terrorism. Thankfully the NTSB did everything they could to not only reconstruct the plane itself but also to prove exactly how the center fuel tank exploded. They did an incredible job in this investigation
You are absolutely right, as William Tobin's sworn testimony reveals. That's the irony of the missile brigade. In fact, far from covering up, they were literally dying to find the smoking gun so they could take control of the investigation. Kallstrom himself had already planned to make an announcement of this to the media when Tobin put his foot down. That was one of the most dramatic reads I have come across in aviation crash land.
The FBI *did* want it to be terrorism. But if it was the Navy, it would make sense why the FBI wasn't able to back up their statements of terrorism. And further, the FBI would NEVER throw any branch of the military under the bus, regardless of ethics or morals. They're bedfellows. Idk man, I didn't think anything of it until I saw this comment and realized, no way in hell would the FBI admit that the Navy accidentally killed over 200 Americans on a civilian flight. Besides that, the stories of Navy sailors being told about certain drills and practices in these comments is chilling. Especially the one about the Navy captain whose phone started blowing up right before the need aired.
If there is a blessing in disguise with this horrible event, it’s if this was gonna happen thank God that it happened right off the coast of Long Island where answers could be had more readily. If this had happened over the Atlantic ocean, we may not have been able to find out why or get as many pieces, the airplane not been on the tarmac so long who knows I remember waking up that day having dreamt of an explosion over William Floyd Parkway. I mentioned this to my mom because I worked in the Hamptons at the time and she looked at me strangely and said, did you see the paper todayand I said no I just woke up and sure enough I had dreamed of this event what a nightmare for all involved
@@williambush2924 Dude,Your wound waaaay to tight for Y/T. Which part was asinine?? that he had beautiful young family or the totally benign statement of him sounding like Tom hanks. Saying he had a beautiful family is nothing about their individual appearances but they looked great as a family,They looked happy and content as a family. What are you 12?? Can’t believe an adult could find anything wrong with what I wrote.I
@@mellifluousmike Just another Keyboard Rambo with nothing to say for themselves so they have to bag on anyone that has. What’s the matter did I hit a nerve?? You depressed,unhappy and just miserable to be around people crack me up. You actually think you have any input into what I say and do. It pisses you off when anyone is happy around you doesn’t it?? Like I said,What was asinine about my comment. You think the man deserved it because he loved his family??
He also confirmed that the plane did not suddenly rise up in a steep climb. The wings fell off immediately after the explosion, and all of the parts went down. Not up.
@@roadkillavenger1325 No he didn't. You're putting words into his mouth that, he absolutely did not say. People like you fail to understand that in cases like this & 9/11, when you twist the words that people say, you twist the knife in the hearts of those left behind to mourn & grieve. I'm talking about those who will likely never know, but fear the pain & terror their loved ones experienced as they died. I bet you think the towers were brought down with Super Thermite. Just another conspiracy theorist who hurts people who are already hurting. You deserve nothing but ridicule & disgrace.
@bexfun The official story is that the cockpit fell off. When it fell off, the rest of the plane suddenly began rising steeply. The ""experts"" say hundreds of eyewitnesses thought the rising plane was a missile. That pilot said the plane did not rise at all. He said the wings came off during the explosion. He said all of the pieces fell down. Several eyewitnesses saw a light on the horizon at sea level. They watched the object originate from the surface of the water and fly up to meet the plane. It's a big cover-up. No sane person could mistake an object originating from the surface of the water with a plane exploding at over 2 miles high in the sky. The government really does believe us citizens are as dumb as sheep. Well, some of us are. The ones who believe everything thr government tells them are the good little sheep.
@@jeffhampton2767Being the word 🚓 police is juvenile. Who are you to correct another man about the words he uses. I bet you wouldn't do it face to face with a grown man so why be a keyboard warrior.
Same here. And I was at my desk at work letting this play in my ear as just background noise and then I heard the emotion in his voice so started paying attention. Made me shed a couple tears.
My mom was an FA at the time for TWA, She had flown that route many times. She lost a bunch of friends on that flight, very sad day I remember vividly as a teenager.
I knew the captain of flight 800. He used to stay at my family’s trout fishing lodge during his vacations in New Zealand in the 1970’s. I remember him always being so patient and kind, as a child I harassed him constantly with questions about flying and aeroplanes. He used to send me photos of himself at work on the flight decks of the aircraft he flew from time to time. When I knew Ralph, he was a first officer for TWA on 727’s. R.I.P Ralph and all those people on that aircraft that night. 😢
Man, I can't even fathom having to heal from being affected by a plane crash in any capacity, and may no one else ever have to find themselves in that situation ever again. RIP and healing to all those in involved, if such a thing can be found. It feels cheap to say it that way, but I don't know what else to say
Geez That was beautifully written . Damn . I’m just a viewer like everyone else , but Pheew you got a hold of me with that . Made my wife read it as well . Your a great person . Thanks and stay safe . Later Joey in western Pennsylvania
@@Onora619 I’m dreading this Wednesday but I’m ready to see what tributes Woody.EXE has planned for the 28th anniversary. I know it’s going to make me cry without fail
I am so sorry for the loss of your brother. 24‘May the LORD bless you and keep you; 25may the LORD cause His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; 26 may the LORD lift up His countenance toward you and give you peace.’
I met many of those marines when I was there in Beirut. It seems there are few of us who remember that. I’m so sorry you have had to live remembering that EVERY day.
I can’t imagine what it must’ve been like for that man, to lose his identity as a husband, and as a father. It brings me joy to know that he was given the opportunity to have a family again. He must cherish that new family on another level. God bless him and all of them.
I am from the UK and I was visiting my dad in Arizona at the time. I was 12 and I had gone as an unaccompanied child (they see you onto and off of the plane and hand you to your relatives). I had 8 weeks to go til I flew back from the day I heard about this. It was so tragic. I was so scared to fly back to the UK. On my journey home we flew over Gatwick and over the tannoy the Pilot announced that we had lost a tyre back in phoenix and that we were having to fly to Heathrow as it was a larger runway and airport and had more support there. I was holding the hand of the girl next to me who was also travelling unaccompanied from the announcement til when we approached the Heathrow runway...longest 10-15 mins of my life..the fear and the wondering of what was to come and the TWA was fresh in my mind. As we approached I could see the fire engines on standby. So glad to say that we landed without incident and I've never been so relieved in my life. I remember thinking that I hope those on the TWA instant didn't know anything and that it is as instant. Knowing something will happen, I can't fully imagine but I know I had a taster of the fear and it was horrendous. Also what stuck in my mind was that my mum and stepdad were at Gatwick waiting for me and they were telling me how the board just suddenly said 'delayed' and they knew we were mid air at the time. The panic on everyone was palpable apparently as you can imagine. Imagine what all the TWA victims families were feeling standing there watching and waiting for their loved ones. Tragic and harrowing. The TWA crash has stayed with me for the last 28!years as if I was an American. Back home noone really knew anything about it and that was hard as it had affected me but couldn't relate to anyone. Rip to all those souls on board and love to their families ❤
Do you still fly today? I don't think I would (especially as an adolescent) be able to fly all the way back to the UK in the first place. Then to have a mechanical issue happen during your flight??? That's just terrifying. I feel bad for your little 12 year old self! Those series of events HAD to have changed you in some way, don't you think? More cautious, lest trusting , less carefree (or more?), afraid of flying, ...
Everybody has seen what shrapnel damage to an airliner looks like because of the Malaysian Airlines flight that was shot down over the Ukraine by a Russian BUK anti-aircraft missile. TWA 800 shows none of that damage.
Goddamn. Must have been a surreal feeling knowing how close it was. Then again, if the car hadn't broken down, the plane may not have crashed either due to chaos theory.
I was in high school when this happened. Remember feeling so sad for the students. It’s sad how you can feel a measure of the pain some of the loved ones are feeling. Rest in peace to all those on board. Never forgotten 🙏🏽
I don't usually watch things like this but I've never forgotten how many people said they saw a rocket. My deepest condolences these family members who have lived with this tragedy.
And many of them are still around, even the folks that were in the water on their fishing boats and till this day, swear by everything they saw that tragic day. They got memory holed and dismissed as Conspiracy Theorist.
I am norwegian. I remember this well because two young norwegian men aged 23 and 30 were on the plane. They were cousins and had been on a trip to the US with their corps. The cousins decided to stay a few days longer when the rest went home, because they wanted to see New York.
As a retired aircraft ground maintenance supervisor, it sickens me to know what really caused this tragedy. WHY did they not fuel that plane correctly? Fuel balance is critical, so they should have KNOWN they had no fuel in the center fuel tank. It just sickens me. And it sickens me even more to hear idiots spewing their bovine excretion about missiles and terrorism when it was simply a moronic failure of the ground crew. You NEVER leave the center tank empty. There are too many sources of heat under it. Not to mention weight and balance requirements. It wasn't terrorism. It was lack of professionalism.
This had nothing to do whatsoever with the Center Fuel Tank. I am former US Navy aircraft handler and it was/ is impossible for there to have been a 'catastrophic' explosion from kerosene. Are you on Facebook?
It should be noted that most air crash investigations end with a "probable" cause. This is an acknowledgement of the fact that if new information comes to light then the original determined cause of a crash might be wrong. It's not indicative of a conspiracy, it's just how investigators work. They acknowledge that it's nearly impossible to be 100% certain. As for the 2 second break in the recording, it was an old decrepit aircraft, and it had wiring faults. As the NTSB thinks a wiring fault was responsible for igniting the centre wing tank it's perfectly reasonable to assume that wiring faults also interrupted the recording for a moment. Other things on the recording indicate one of the gauges in the cockpit was behaving weirdly, which could also have been due to a wiring fault.
I remember the evening of July 17, 1996, very vividly. Even though no one I knew was on Flight 800, for some reason this one felt so personal. Those who lost someone they love, they are all equally as important. But, Mr. Lychner's story stood out the most to me. I always wondered what became of him, and I'm so glad to see that he remarried and has moved on.
I will always remember the date because it was my friend's birthday and we were out in Manhattan and learned about the explosion as we were getting ready to go back home to Long Island.
21:58 - "I did not find any holes." As the video shows the plane littered with holes. In another video, the same guy "I was standing outside looking down and I did not find any evidence of the ground."
I was 5 years old, we were leaving cupsogue and saw what I thought was a firework over the ocean. I didn’t know it was a plane crash and loved fireworks but this creeped me out, for years I would have dreams of strange fireworks and phenomenon so happening over the ocean putting me into a phobia of the ocean for years to come. I was so young I never understood that it was a plane crash but i knew something was horribly wrong. One night we were talking about flight 800 in my teens and for the first time realized that was flight 800 I saw.
It’s weird how July 17th is a somber day in aviation history, marked by tragic incidents like TWA Flight 800, Alliance Air Flight 7412, and TAM Airlines Flight 3054. I know that because 7/17 is my b-day and I remember all these flight crashes because of this 😔
*Please turn on the automatic closed captions!* This is useful for many people, _besides the hearing impaired_---if children are playing in the backgroud; outside noise coming through an open window; listening late at night when others are asleep, and other reasons. How does a huge news organization like CNN not have captions enabled? *_PLEASE TURN ON AUTOMATIC CLOSED CAPTIONS._*
*_Former Boeing Everett - where 747's are produced._* I was working there in 1996 at the time of Accident. From the beginning, lots of confusion what happened and how do we prevent it from happening again. It wasn't until much later in 2000 that the Final Report was released. I have been inside the Center Fuel Tank on new 747's and they are big enough to walk through standing up. The likely culprit was the Center Fuel Tank exploded. It was empty at the time, but fumes from the Jet Fuel (refined Kerosene) ignited. At the time, it was hot and the aircraft was waiting for hours due to delays at JFK Airport. The AC equipment is located under the center fuel tank. Heat from the AC's heated up the Tank and the little fuel left on bottom. Wiring had damaged insulation, and a spark caused an explosion at 16,000 feet when it was still climbing. Front of plane blew off and fell to the ocean below. Rest of plane with wings climbed steeply because center of gravity shifted towards rear with front of plane now gone. It too fell into the ocean. There were no survivors. Since then, wire with this kind of insulation is no longer used. Older planes are inspected more frequently and wiring replaced if indicated. A better layer of insulation between the AC equipment was installed on older and all new aircraft to prevent heat from reaching tanks. Inert Nitrogen Gas is also used to replace any Air in Fuel Tanks. Air supports Combustion while Nitrogen prevents it. There have been no further Accidents of this kind since the New Safety Procedures went into effect.
When they said that the souls who were lost died instantly, I hate to ask this question, but how? Many of their bodies were still in tact in the ocean. Was it from asphyxiation?
@@cleochip2938 The instant decompression and thin air at that height alone could kill most but what instantly killed them was most likely snapping of the neck once the plane broke apart those winds at that speed are fierce. Just think of the adrenaline rush from merely putting your head slightly out of a car window how the wind whips and rips past your face. Only people who may not have died instantly had to be at the rear of the plane
@@cleochip2938Plane was at 16,000 feet. After explosion, the center section pitched up and rose thousands more before falling. Lack of Oxygen and trauma from explosion probably killed them before they hit the sea.
@@SJR_Media_Group i think it depends on the position of the passengers. The ones probably to the rear of the craft wouldnt have had the same trauma. The plane didnt go up to high, so they wouldnt have had hypoxia. The alaskan airlines jet with the door that blew off in jan happened around the same altitude, no one passed out. We will never know who was alive but it must have been beyond terrifying. Its just awful to think about.
1:50 god was only made up in a time there was no science and people couldn't understand so many things. if people "believe" (the word says it) there is a god, it is the most mean and terrible creature éver lived! deal with that. 🤦🏽♀️
moriches bay was the site of a UFO recovery on the inlet island to the right, i m a flounder fisherman wittnessed us army , navy and coast guard operation going on there in sept of 1989. was even told by coast guard to stay away from area but you could see it was a huge operation ! sorry to all who lost family on that day .
I just watched the Mayday episode. The thought of the cockpit falling to the ocean with the pilots still alive is just horrifying to imagine. My sincere condolences to the families of everyone involved.
@@Maryyeung12894One of the best planes ever made. And, ignore the media hysteria, Boeing airplanes still have the best safety record of any airline manufacturer in history. Both Boeing and Airbus passenger planes are incredibly safe.
How many 747’s have faced 100F/37C temperatures for an afternoon with an empty centre fuel tank: probably 100%. How many have blown up spontaneously - 1……. How many 747’s were grounded by precaution afterwards? Zero… Main witness saw wings fall off at explosion meaning impossible for the aircraft to climb afterward - NTSB version: it was the aircraft climbing, not a missile climbing. Hundreds thought they saw a missile: they were described as having ‘poor memories’ or ‘were drunk’ by the NTSB hearing. Wouldn’t be the first or only time the US Navy shot down a civilian airliner: Desert Storm - US Navy shoots down an Iran Air A300 killing all civilians on board and then denies it.
Nice "disclaimer" at the end, Kalstrom. The way the FBI and NTSB prosecuted journalists, selectively ignored CREDIBLE witnesses who saw 800 explode, even from from "ordnance" (remember the Army Guard helo pilot looking right at it?), the Mach 1.5+ radar returns, and on and on) was absolutely disgraceful. Then there's the REAL video that CNN played and so many of us saw from the deck that aired many times the next day before it was pulled? Many people know the the truth buddy. May God have mercy on you.
Fred Meyer, whom you refer to, told the authorities he saw a streak of light, then almost immediately a fireball which fell to the water in some 10 seconds. This supports the streak being a late stage event. He later decided to repudiate his own testimony because it didn't support his conviction he saw ordnance. While he states he has seen ordnance before, he does not say he ever saw a commercial airliner explode before. So how does he know that might not also resemble ordnance? "mach 1.5+ radar returns" might well be the most powerful case for a missile. The NTSB did take up this claim, questioning "the quality of the radar data representing this debris by citing information such as ½ nautical mile “scatter” between multiple FAA radar facilities. " This prompted a rebuttal by Tom Stalcup which to me demonstrates the futility of non-trained nonspecialists being able to figure all this out. Without a neutral platform to judge both sides, I cannot accept this argument as beyond reasonable doubt. Can you?
Totality. Are you saying this would be the first time a military man would be pressured to change his statement? The plane accelerated after being hit. A high AOA with the same power setting would decelerate the plane, not climb it- at least not for long as shown in that bogus CIA animation. Notice I said "CIA animation". Why the hell the CIA? Why was a Stinger missile parts briefing document (regarding what to look for in the water) left in a hotel room by an FBI agent? Stingers eject a battery module after firing. Why have no other 747's just exploded like this, despite flying out of hot places like Dubai and Saudi for decades? What was the mystery boat seen leaving at high speed from the scene? Never identified. Were the 200 people who saw a missile all totally wrong? Were you alive then? I was. Many people recall seeing a video playing on CNN and in Asia for the first few hours after the incident that showed the smoke trail. It's "gone" now. Do you believe everything the government touches and always has "missing data" is legit? Two seconds gone? How nice. Where's the full cockpit skin of the plane? I see a LOT of aluminum missing on the rebuild. This is exactly where the missile hit the 777 over Ukraine. In the captain's window. There is so much more. Totality.
The man who lost his wife and two daughters has had the best attitude! I believe the investigators got it right. My condolences to all who lost loved ones on this flight. May the victims RIP
24:45 yes, IT WAS THE CROSS that helped find everyone. They all magically appeared in the exact order of who got the cross next. GAWWWD is so good. 😒 Sir, I’m not buying this story. Secondly, where was this God when the center fuel tank exploded. Off somewhere worrying about the gays, it seems. Someone always ties their god into a tragedy in some fanatical way. The whole thing was caused by negligence on the part of TWA and if your god was so good and powerful, that it went out of its way to make sure you got a cross to give to others to make sure their loved ones were found - bc it seems like you’re implying that they wouldn’t have been otherwise - then your god could have prevented the entire thing in the first place.
I worked for twa as a flight attendant. To this day I do not believe it was a malfunction. Most twa people believe it was a friendly fire accident. Over 200 people who saw this agree💯🙏
I’ll take a multi-year and agency investigation over your ‘belief’. You don’t even understand what damage it does. You are no better than those who deny Sandy Hook. Shame on you.
@@Sylvia-zv1eq And what's the reason for a coverup here? There weren't any naval vessels in the area at that time and they sure as hell wouldn't be firing live missiles into civilian air corridors
It's ridiculous to think it was a shoulder fire missile. Do the math. If a naval AA missile was out of range. Then there's no way a shoulder fire missile could have reached 13,700 alt @ 15 miles out to sea.Traveling at 800 mph. Best range on a SF is 550 yds. There's no way a SF missile can do that. It would've had to be a vehicle mounted AA missle. And the fire trail would be so large. It would like apollo 11 taking off. You just can't carry around a missle that large. And fire one without anybody knowing exactly where it came from.
@@Fatdog-Dakind There has always been hatred in the world. It only seems like there's more hatred now because of the false impression that we're smarter these days. We're not smarter. We're actually more dumb. Spiritually, emotionally, and mentally more dumb. We've forgotten why we're here, as if many of us knew in the first place.
@@Jeff-bz6jp Thank you! That precisely explains what someone as stupid and hateful as Donald Trump became such a popular politician-it's a reflection of our people and times.
First of all why did the FBI do the investigation? It has to be the NTSB period. The NTSB was investigators were not happy to be treated in a bad way. This has got to be a missile
All the Planes talking off throughout history, and TWA 800 was the only plane to ever have a center fuel tank issue due to Hot weather? Plus multiple people said they saw something streaking TOWARD the aircraft. Yeah, nothing to see here..
I call BS too because if that was a common issue then why didnt this happen to multiple planes that day ? If the weather was the issue , it would have happen to a few planes ? I dont want to be called a conspiracy theorist , but , I believe there was a bigger issue with the plane that is not being disclosed to the public. This story just doesnt make sense to any thinking human , it just doesnt !
Read about the Swiss Cheese model in reference to aviation accidents. If all the holes in the Swiss Cheese line up, then you have an accident. But if all the holes don't line up, then you don't have an accident. Unfortunately, on that day all the holes lined up for that particular airplane and the people riding in it. Change one thing that day, like it sitting there for two hours instead of four, and probably the plane makes it to Paris and everything is fine.
I remember that night. I was at a concert (Chicago, Crosby Stills & Nash) at Fiddler's Green, which is in the Denver metro area. Heard about the crash from a fellow concert-goer.
Former Boeing Everett... NTSB / Boeing conducted full size test of center fuel tank. It had air / fuel fumes and electrical spark caused instant explosion. It was significant enough to blow a 747 center fuel tank apart. This would had destroyed the aircraft midair. It was a non-survival event. ruclips.net/video/3v-0JgV1hg4/видео.html
I really remember this day like is was yesterday, i was raised in Yonkers New York and this is the flight TWA that my parents been in; there's has been so many speculation on the US military was involved in shooting down this aircraft by a fighter jet and it's missile because supposedly this aircraft was held hostage in the air; i don't believe at all that this aircraft exploded on its own just because (it) encounter a malfunction; nope, i don't believe because USA doesn't negotiate with terrorism!! Think about it; it isn't the first time the US government had lied to the public 😮😮
I cannot imagine losing your wife AND children. My sister took French in high school, and to this day, she refuses any trip requiring flying over the ocean because a high school French class on this flight. It traumatized her deeply.
July 17, 1996. Exactly 18 years later to the day, July 17, 2014 Malaysian Airlines flight 17 was shot down by a Russian missile over the Ukraine whilst flying from Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpar. Exactly 2 months prior to this I flew over the exact area on a Thai Airways flight from London - Bangkok, this being the usual flight path for carriers flying from Europe to S.E.Asia. It could have happened to any civilian passenger flight, including me.
This air disaster happened on July 17, 1996 not 2014. The documentary and movie came out in 2013 after years of extensive investigation as to what caused the plane to explode mid takeoff.
Takeaway... if you suck at poker the government may have a job for you. The tell is especially strong with Panetta; notice his strongly contradictory words and body/facial language throughout his performance here. He's lying. RIP to those lost. May the truth someday be revealed.
To the guy specifically, who lost his beautiful family (at beginning, 2 little blonde daughters), obviously my heart pangs for all. But this is a heartfelt message from my family to you. May you find solace, from this transatlantic message of hope. We are with you, and hope our love reaches you. There are people pan-global who care, empathise and feel your pain and loss, albeit on a different level. In the most dreadful of circumstances, my family and I convey our love, and are sincerely glad your precious loved ones were all recovered and laid to rest with the dignity you all warranted. R.I.P.🪽✝️⛪️
Two days earlier, I was in Nashville enjoying the music of French guitarist Marcel Dadi. Sadly, he was on that flight headed home when FLT 800 fell into the sea.
They left the AC packs running and it got too hot. Fuel vapor/oxygen mixture ignited in the empty center tank. Leaving tanks empty with a bit of fuel sloshing around in there is incredibly dangerous.
I remember that woman reporting that she had visions of this happening prior to the crash. The movie final destination was based around this psychic phenomena.
Former aircraft mechanic in the 70's with com'l pilot's license. An empty fuel tank is FAR dangerous that a full one as it's the vapor of fuel and not the fuel itself that either burns or when it's concentrated explodes. Case in point: we had a C-130 cargo plane in front of our hanger, the fuel had been drained from the left wing, and (with breathing equipment) a mechanic was INSIDE the wing through a manhole cover on top of the wing. An inspector was standing on top of the wing signing off on his work. Some idiot threw a switch in the cockpit (marked with a red tag!), an electrical arc (spark) occurred in the wing. The force of the explosion obliterated the two men and blew the wing right off the aircraft. Conspiracy theories aside, the NTSB got it right when they figured out that the empty of fuel, (but not vapors) center tank was set off by an arcing electrical line that ran right through the tank. This is one of the hazards of aging aircraft that require more and more maintenance to keep them airworthy and flying.
I'm still skeptical of it. Even if the center fuel tank was completely empty , the voltage that they are saying arced and ignited it would still be too low. If this was true , it would've been a far more common occurrence amongst many different types of craft. Sitting on a tarmac in NYC for a few hours ? Imagine how many failures or common maladies would have occurred to craft sitting on the tarmac in Texas or Arizona where it's really , really hot.
That’s why it’s so annoying when people act like a car full of fuel is a danger to have a big explosion. A car’s fuel tank is basically can only explode if it’s running on fume.
The U.S Navy accidentally shot down TWA flight 800. They were off the east coast running a live fire drill at the time. Obviously the coverup was immediately implemented to conceal the incompetence of the military. Military grade explosives residue was found on multiple pieces of wreckage salvaged. The lame excuse given by the government/NTSB for the explosives residue on the wreckage was one, the plane was used to transport troops to the Middle East for operation Desert Storm. Perhaps the plane was, though the troops transported would have merely had their personnel gear onboard. Not explosive ordnance. Besides explosive ordnance have the explosives sealed and contained within the ordnance. Thus making it impossible to spread residue on the plane. The second lame excuse is that the plane had supposedly previously been used for a dog-training explosive-detection exercise. Which wouldn’t account for the number of pieces of wreckage which had explosive residue on them and the location of the wreckage pieces which did have explosive residue on them.
I remember this event very well as my sister was getting married and her husband was supposed to be in New York for Boeing and had struggled to get the time off to get married. He was a Boeing engineer and was supposed to be taking part in exercises with the military simulating a commercial airplane being flown into a New York skyscraper, we had talked about the exercises in regards to him getting the time off. The point is the military was supposed to track a plane and shoot it down but obviously there wasn’t supposed to be any live fire and I can tell you his phone was blowing up from his boss before the news was on the air, this exercise also confirmed for me George bush was lying on 9/11 when he claimed the government never considered someone would use airplanes to destroy buildings as we had budgeted money for and conducted exercises for that very scenario
Yeah Dubya didn't look very convincing in that schoolroom reading an upside down book. Likewise multiple stories of draft dodging Cheney playing simulated war games on the East Coast that morning creating massive fake radar blips from DC to Boston.
So you believe they shot down TWA flight 800? I imagine your brother in law has to answer some questions? Officially they still have no answer on cause. I sure hope they didn’t shoot it down and it didn’t “act “ like a plane ✈️ being shot down?
Man, this is very sad. After a long week watching the 9/11 videos this just pushed me over the edge and I just start watching. That man that lost his wife and 2 daughters really moved me.
My friend was the lead engineer on the investigation. He is a very smart guy and I trust him for sure. He showed me pictures of the reconstructed plane (he reassembled it twice). There is zero percent chance the plane was shot down.
Reassembled it twice? It was only reassembled in the Calverton Hangar in Long Island during the FBI investigation that lasted over a year. I don't care what your friend says, 700 plus people saw something happen that night, some more specific than others and the FBI didn't give a crap what they had to say. There was evidence of a missile but it was suppressed by the FBI. James Sanders and his wife Liz, a former TWA employee went to jail for simply getting a piece of the plane seat examined in a lab and it came back positive for nitrates. The radar data released via FOIA, showed the debris traveling at Mach 4. It wasn't a spark in the CWT, enough with the lies and deceit already. I have a myriad of contradictory evidence proving that you and your imaginary friend are full of shit. Whistleblowers came out years later confirming that the investigation was tainted from the get go by the FBI and the CIA.
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No evidence of a missle, bomb, or explosive material other than jet fuel, corrrect? Someone for sure would have leaked that critical info if there was the slightest evidence me thinks. Too many investigators to all be in on something else, like a terrorist attack.
God bless them. On another note look how bad this Nation has become, When a national tragedy occurred back then OUR Strong, Well spoken, Deep Caring, Articulate, Ect. President came out and Addressed the issue in person. Fast Forward to today with the Neanderthal in Office. That fool would need a teleprompter and would still be mumbling to address it!!!
I had an airline mechanic friend in 1996. He was only on the job a year or two, pretty green. After this crash, he was tasked with climbing into the 747 center fuel tanks at Oakland airport. He told me there was no way the fuel tank gauge harness could spark because of the way it was reverse negatively grounded. But thats not to say it certainly ignited from the aircon pacs or something else like the fbi said. I believe the fbi and think thats commendable they told the truth that they couldn’t exactly figure it out. God rest the passengers and i hope peace for the surviving family members😢
My heart goes out to All of them❤.But the Man who lost his wife Pam and his 2 daughters hit me hart.Imagine you talk to your wife on the phone hearing your girls behind her and half hour later your family is gone😢
This plane was shot down. Either by accident or intentionally. I remember a photograph of a woman on Long Island where you can clearly see a rocket trail going straight up above her left shoulder. After one view on the news the picture was immediately “ memory- holed”
I believe dawns father finding out about his daughter from his mom that passed. I dont believe in ghosts but i believe that we can get communications from beyond in our minds. I am glad she was there to meet her.
I was about 20 years old in 1996 on my way home from NY to London after finishing my year-long Au-pair job in USA. I was on stand-by-ticket waiting for TWA800 to Paris during mid-day that day. But due to delays for TWA800 i was bumped up and booked a ticket with another TWA-flight. Direct to my destination London instead. One little change of a flight-ticket can totally change everything .... 😥😥🤔🤔🤔😲😲😲😲
Wow. Talk about chilling!
Sometimes, delays and disappprovals can save us from danger. Believe it or not, me and my parents were almost taken by the ISIS if they decided to confine me in our local public hosptal. Luckily, my mom's instinct let her decide to bring me in the other hospital even it's 1 hour faraway from our province. Then at 3pm, we recieved text messages that the ISIS group had captured our hospital and killed some innocent people and policemen.
Did you hear about that woman who had visions/premonitions about TWA flight 800 crash prior to it happening?
John Lydon (sex pistols singer) & his wife Nora missed their flight from Germany to the US, because Nora took so long to pack her case. The flight they missed was Pan Am 103 that exploded over Lockerbie. They didn't let their family know they'd missed the flight, so they were understandably going out of their minds trying to find out.
Just to point out, if you had made the flight, history would have been different. Maybe the flight would not have been delayed in the heat with the air con going full blast
Or something else.
I have always accepted that there are some things in this life we will never know. I have had such questions in the deaths of people in my own Family. The hardest thing for me was coming to terms with that.
Thank you CNN.
I'm sorry for your losses.
I still find it hard to accept that 9/11 has happened and I always fear of crashing into buildings whenever I’m on a plane and then I refuse to accept the deaths of the passengers of United 93 because they’re my heroes. I’ve hated planes ever since coming very close to 9/11
My dad said don't let fear stop you from living a good life.
There's a documentary on free movies artist that goes in depth
@@user-fi6qr8wb9u, the whole UK/Canadian Mayday series goes deeper into the NTSB investigation side of things and has more concrete evidence of what potentially happened to the plane. To this day, the FBI has tried numerous times to confirm their suspicions without much success.
My Love and warm thoughts go to all the families of the passengers and crew who perished in this terrible tragedy ❤❤🙏 May the passengers and crew RIP🙏❤️❤️
I remember this happening almost down to the minute. I was in the waiting room to the ER thinking I was having a heart issue. Then this happened and was being broadcast on the tv up on the wall. Dear God, that was the last thing I needed to be seeing. It turned out I was having panic attacks instead of a heart issue, but I'll never forget the stress of seeing this unfold.
This happened to me after watching Come and See the most horrifying war movie ever made in 1985, I thought I was actually in the war but it was just the nightmares triggering everything. I’ve never experienced a panic attack like it because I was so severely traumatised that taking it all out on Woody was the best thing yet since he didn’t understand what I was feeling
Your anxiety brought down the plane. Your energy transmitted to the fuselage and brought it down.
28 years ago today and 11 years after this was TAM3054 and 18 years after it was MH17
Have you watched here on RUclips: 'HANK HUGHES EXTENDED INTERVIEW' ?
8:15 That wreckage is still on fire 😱✈ rip to all the souls on board.
I just took on a job at a UK airport, my training suggested a TWA aircraft that had an electrical fault , and to report any electrical socket issues . I am not saying it was this flight . But my on my training it stated an electrical fault with a TWA aircraft.
God Bless him.....utterly tragic...
so it is the accident of 1996, and 2014 is when this documentary was made? I find it somewhat unclear
(skipping your vision on the first 30 seconds)
maybe placing the date 1996 in the title or info tabs underneath would help.
Exactly that! Happened in 96, originally aired in 2014!
Planes sitting on a tarmac for several hours, does not cause a plane to explode. This happens many times everyday at every airport. Using this as an excuse is ridiculous.
It wasn't just it sitting on the tarmac for hours. That was a part of a string of events that caused the explosion. Taking that singularly as your arguement for why you don't believe the evidence is disingenuous. Not to mention it hasn't happened since because they put protocols in place and better insulted the wiring around the ac units and fuel tank.
@daniellem7398 no protocol was applied after that. How can they do it for African Airlines with their old jets and hot weather? Even if there is a protocol after 1996, Why something like this hadn't happened in years before 1996? Chain of events made by team to cover up a terrorist attack and save Clinton from doing any retaliation. Look at the faces of those 2 agents, you will realise that they are lying.
@@Mountaingoat4234 Sorry, not buying that theory.
Its because that day was a very hot humid day the plane was delayed for 2 hours meaning the air conditioning was running on high for 2 hours causing the packs to overheat leading to the fuel to become flammable
The weakest link in the official story is that "after the explosion, the front part separated and the rear part of the 747 continued to fly up for at least 3 thousand feet". They know that it is impossible. No model plane, no accurate simulation, no real world case can justify such a ridiculous claim. When the front part of a jet as big as a 747 separated harshly, all the balance and dynamic stability would be drastically and quickly lost. the rear part starts rotating and falling down, because the gravity center shifted back many meters. They know that, that's why whenever they come across this point they by pass it quickly. That FBI animation is nonense. Anybody with minimum experience will tell you that flying up a few thousand feet without the front part is impossible. Also, it is in contrary to all the witnesses' testimonies.
This is spot on. The zoom climb never happened. However, I believe its purpose was to close the lid on all the CT mongering, as by that time they had a credibility issue. It was not necessarily because of a cover-up.
@@cchris874 it could be. But just could be.
The pilot who witnessed it even states in this special "how could it have gained altitude, the wings were blown off!"
Perhaps you could show the simulation that you have made, along with force calculations that demonstrates that your idea of the breakup sequence is more accurate than the official report?
@@LordSandwichII I did. Neither in computer simulations nor in model plane tests, it is possible to see something similar. The FBI animation is just an animation. Not a computer simulation. There is no model behind that. That's the difference between CS and animation. Can you consider Marvel movies as documentaries? Why not? Simply because they are not real. That animation is just a parody. In my simulations never the rear part can continue flying let alone moving higher. Assume that CWT explodes. In their animation the front part that got separated is meters in front of the wing roots. That's impossible. In reality after an explosion over there fuel in the wings would be engulfed and exploded and wings would be blown off and a ball of fire would crash down. But if something hits one of the wings near its root, and that something is sharppnels of a missile fired by Al Qaeda terrorists, it matches the eyewitnesses testimony. Clinton wanted that cover up.
You know it wasn’t terrorism because the FBI tried SO hard to prove that it was. From Day 1 they were convinced that the plane was taken down by either a bomb or a missile. From the interviews that they gave it was almost like they wanted it to be terrorism. Thankfully the NTSB did everything they could to not only reconstruct the plane itself but also to prove exactly how the center fuel tank exploded. They did an incredible job in this investigation
You are absolutely right, as William Tobin's sworn testimony reveals. That's the irony of the missile brigade. In fact, far from covering up, they were literally dying to find the smoking gun so they could take control of the investigation. Kallstrom himself had already planned to make an announcement of this to the media when Tobin put his foot down. That was one of the most dramatic reads I have come across in aviation crash land.
The FBI *did* want it to be terrorism. But if it was the Navy, it would make sense why the FBI wasn't able to back up their statements of terrorism. And further, the FBI would NEVER throw any branch of the military under the bus, regardless of ethics or morals. They're bedfellows.
Idk man, I didn't think anything of it until I saw this comment and realized, no way in hell would the FBI admit that the Navy accidentally killed over 200 Americans on a civilian flight. Besides that, the stories of Navy sailors being told about certain drills and practices in these comments is chilling. Especially the one about the Navy captain whose phone started blowing up right before the need aired.
@@cchris874That's pretty insightful! I will definitely make a point to use this in my war against these conspiracy nutjobs.
God bless them
RIP
I remember seeing this on live television 🙏
What's sad about this accident, is that the coroner reported that several bodies had signs of drowning, aka water in the lungs.
If there is a blessing in disguise with this horrible event, it’s if this was gonna happen thank God that it happened right off the coast of Long Island where answers could be had more readily. If this had happened over the Atlantic ocean, we may not have been able to find out why or get as many pieces, the airplane not been on the tarmac so long who knows I remember waking up that day having dreamt of an explosion over William Floyd Parkway. I mentioned this to my mom because I worked in the Hamptons at the time and she looked at me strangely and said, did you see the paper todayand I said no I just woke up and sure enough I had dreamed of this event what a nightmare for all involved
Joe Lichner had a beautiful young family. I can’t even imagine how he feels.
He sounds so much like Tom Hanks.
@fuzzybutkus8970 Would it have mattered if they were all not so attractive?? what an asinine comment.
@@williambush2924 Dude,Your wound waaaay to tight for Y/T. Which part was asinine?? that he had beautiful young family or the totally benign statement of him sounding like Tom hanks. Saying he had a beautiful family is nothing about their individual appearances but they looked great as a family,They looked happy and content as a family. What are you 12?? Can’t believe an adult could find anything wrong with what I wrote.I
@@fuzzybutkus8970 Forget about meaningless troll comments, don't even respond dude.
@@mellifluousmike Just another Keyboard Rambo with nothing to say for themselves so they have to bag on anyone that has. What’s the matter did I hit a nerve?? You depressed,unhappy and just miserable to be around people crack me up. You actually think you have any input into what I say and do. It pisses you off when anyone is happy around you doesn’t it?? Like I said,What was asinine about my comment. You think the man deserved it because he loved his family??
The pilot who witnessed the explosion is obviously affected to this day, it's in his voice and on his face...God bless this man too 😞
He also confirmed that the plane did not suddenly rise up in a steep climb. The wings fell off immediately after the explosion, and all of the parts went down. Not up.
@@roadkillavenger1325 No he didn't. You're putting words into his mouth that, he absolutely did not say. People like you fail to understand that in cases like this & 9/11, when you twist the words that people say, you twist the knife in the hearts of those left behind to mourn & grieve. I'm talking about those who will likely never know, but fear the pain & terror their loved ones experienced as they died. I bet you think the towers were brought down with Super Thermite. Just another conspiracy theorist who hurts people who are already hurting. You deserve nothing but ridicule & disgrace.
@@roadkillavenger1325what does that imply?
@bexfun The official story is that the cockpit fell off. When it fell off, the rest of the plane suddenly began rising steeply. The ""experts"" say hundreds of eyewitnesses thought the rising plane was a missile.
That pilot said the plane did not rise at all. He said the wings came off during the explosion. He said all of the pieces fell down.
Several eyewitnesses saw a light on the horizon at sea level. They watched the object originate from the surface of the water and fly up to meet the plane.
It's a big cover-up. No sane person could mistake an object originating from the surface of the water with a plane exploding at over 2 miles high in the sky.
The government really does believe us citizens are as dumb as sheep. Well, some of us are. The ones who believe everything thr government tells them are the good little sheep.
@@bexfun It implies that @roadkillavenger1325 is full of shit & a conspiracy theorist. The witness did not say any of that.
That father talking about his daughter made my grown ass man ass cry 😭 RIP to all victims of this tragedy
Can’t lie it had my stone cold hardened ass bawling like a baby
Why say ass. It's Juvenile
@@jeffhampton2767Being the word 🚓 police is juvenile. Who are you to correct another man about the words he uses. I bet you wouldn't do it face to face with a grown man so why be a keyboard warrior.
Me to bro
Same here. And I was at my desk at work letting this play in my ear as just background noise and then I heard the emotion in his voice so started paying attention. Made me shed a couple tears.
When the father started talking about his daughter... I had to cry. You could still see the pain in his eyes years later😭💔
Same here… it was heartbreaking to watch 😔. He is reunited with his beloved daughter because he passed away Feb 26, 2023.
@@cazi5759 how sad 😞 but now he is reunited with your beloved daughter 🙏🏻🕊️🖤
😢😢😢😢
@@cazi5759 So sad for him.
Rip
My mom was an FA at the time for TWA, She had flown that route many times. She lost a bunch of friends on that flight, very sad day I remember vividly as a teenager.
I knew the captain of flight 800. He used to stay at my family’s trout fishing lodge during his vacations in New Zealand in the 1970’s. I remember him always being so patient and kind, as a child I harassed him constantly with questions about flying and aeroplanes. He used to send me photos of himself at work on the flight decks of the aircraft he flew from time to time. When I knew Ralph, he was a first officer for TWA on 727’s. R.I.P Ralph and all those people on that aircraft that night. 😢
Man, I can't even fathom having to heal from being affected by a plane crash in any capacity, and may no one else ever have to find themselves in that situation ever again. RIP and healing to all those in involved, if such a thing can be found. It feels cheap to say it that way, but I don't know what else to say
Geez That was beautifully written . Damn . I’m just a viewer like everyone else , but Pheew you got a hold of me with that . Made my wife read it as well . Your a great person . Thanks and stay safe . Later Joey in western Pennsylvania
@@Onora619
I’m dreading this Wednesday but I’m ready to see what tributes Woody.EXE has planned for the 28th anniversary. I know it’s going to make me cry without fail
USA...the greatest country for covering up its own faults because of course USA and its Military doesnt make mistakes...so dont you dare
I could barely listen to that father. Wow! Talk about pain 😞
That man is broken.
That was me after learning about TWA Flight 800 from Final Destination series and I’ve never been the same since
Next Wednesday marks the 28th Anniversary of TWA Flight 800 accident.
RIP to all 230 passengers who died so tragically on this day, I love you all ❤️
My brother died in a terror bombing in ‘83. I have never been the same.
I am so sorry for the loss of your brother.
24‘May the LORD bless you and keep you;
25may the LORD cause His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you;
26 may the LORD lift up His countenance toward you and give you peace.’
I’m sorry for your tragic loss.
I met many of those marines when I was there in Beirut. It seems there are few of us who remember that. I’m so sorry you have had to live remembering that EVERY day.
I’m very sorry for the loss of your brother. Believe that you will see him again.
My condolences on the loss of your brother.
I can’t imagine what it must’ve been like for that man, to lose his identity as a husband, and as a father. It brings me joy to know that he was given the opportunity to have a family again. He must cherish that new family on another level. God bless him and all of them.
“I have a family waiting for me in heaven and a family while I’m here” 😭😭😭😭😭
I am from the UK and I was visiting my dad in Arizona at the time. I was 12 and I had gone as an unaccompanied child (they see you onto and off of the plane and hand you to your relatives). I had 8 weeks to go til I flew back from the day I heard about this. It was so tragic. I was so scared to fly back to the UK. On my journey home we flew over Gatwick and over the tannoy the Pilot announced that we had lost a tyre back in phoenix and that we were having to fly to Heathrow as it was a larger runway and airport and had more support there. I was holding the hand of the girl next to me who was also travelling unaccompanied from the announcement til when we approached the Heathrow runway...longest 10-15 mins of my life..the fear and the wondering of what was to come and the TWA was fresh in my mind. As we approached I could see the fire engines on standby. So glad to say that we landed without incident and I've never been so relieved in my life. I remember thinking that I hope those on the TWA instant didn't know anything and that it is as instant. Knowing something will happen, I can't fully imagine but I know I had a taster of the fear and it was horrendous. Also what stuck in my mind was that my mum and stepdad were at Gatwick waiting for me and they were telling me how the board just suddenly said 'delayed' and they knew we were mid air at the time. The panic on everyone was palpable apparently as you can imagine. Imagine what all the TWA victims families were feeling standing there watching and waiting for their loved ones. Tragic and harrowing. The TWA crash has stayed with me for the last 28!years as if I was an American. Back home noone really knew anything about it and that was hard as it had affected me but couldn't relate to anyone. Rip to all those souls on board and love to their families ❤
Do you still fly today? I don't think I would (especially as an adolescent) be able to fly all the way back to the UK in the first place. Then to have a mechanical issue happen during your flight??? That's just terrifying. I feel bad for your little 12 year old self! Those series of events HAD to have changed you in some way, don't you think? More cautious, lest trusting , less carefree (or more?), afraid of flying, ...
Everybody has seen what shrapnel damage to an airliner looks like because of the Malaysian Airlines flight that was shot down over the Ukraine by a Russian BUK anti-aircraft missile. TWA 800 shows none of that damage.
Exactly.
2:15 This man lost everything. Dam.
Rest in Peace to his family and God bless him.
@@markfarrington9727yep it looks a cover up to me . A big one
Your sky fairy obviously didn’t BLESS ANYONE on this flight or their family and friends!!!! YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!!!
My friend missed the flight due to broken down car
Very glad he/she didn't get on the plane. I hope they didn't have to deal with any survivor's guilt.
PRAISE GOD!!!
@@Mimi2thebestboyseverbut not for the the dead.
@@Mimi2thebestboysever The same god that killed all the people on the 'plane?
Goddamn. Must have been a surreal feeling knowing how close it was. Then again, if the car hadn't broken down, the plane may not have crashed either due to chaos theory.
That incident ended TWA.
TWA had been circling the drain since 1989 if not earlier.
@@le_th_are you sure I’m just asking I wasn’t born till 2 years later
Just like how the Lockerbie bombing effectively ended Pan Am.
I was in high school when this happened. Remember feeling so sad for the students. It’s sad how you can feel a measure of the pain some of the loved ones are feeling. Rest in peace to all those on board. Never forgotten 🙏🏽
Are you in college now?
@@Here_and_there89 lol
It’s not about u max
Smh I live here just took pics of memorial today smh crazy
Them parents were never the same smh
I don't usually watch things like this but I've never forgotten how many people said they saw a rocket. My deepest condolences these family members who have lived with this tragedy.
And many of them are still around, even the folks that were in the water on their fishing boats and till this day, swear by everything they saw that tragic day. They got memory holed and dismissed as Conspiracy Theorist.
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This was the day before my 9th birthday. My birthday was 7/18. I never forgot it. My grandma lost her best friend on this flight. 💔
I'm so sorry
@@christinewhitmore-8208 It's okay. My grandma was positive that her friend didn't suffer. It still is painful to her and she will never forget it.
RIH to the passengers and crew of TWA 800.
My condolences.
Rih?
It's a typo.
The navy shot that plane down
@@XisrRein Rest In Heaven*
@@JamesFaye-lt4dv
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I am norwegian. I remember this well because two young norwegian men aged 23 and 30 were on the plane. They were cousins and had been on a trip to the US with their corps. The cousins decided to stay a few days longer when the rest went home, because they wanted to see New York.
Very sorry for your loss! May they RIP!
As a retired aircraft ground maintenance supervisor, it sickens me to know what really caused this tragedy. WHY did they not fuel that plane correctly? Fuel balance is critical, so they should have KNOWN they had no fuel in the center fuel tank. It just sickens me.
And it sickens me even more to hear idiots spewing their bovine excretion about missiles and terrorism when it was simply a moronic failure of the ground crew. You NEVER leave the center tank empty. There are too many sources of heat under it. Not to mention weight and balance requirements. It wasn't terrorism. It was lack of professionalism.
This had nothing to do whatsoever with the Center Fuel Tank. I am former US Navy aircraft handler and it was/ is impossible for there to have been a 'catastrophic' explosion from kerosene. Are you on Facebook?
It was a guided missile shot by the united states military, by mistake of course. Uncle sam has a problem with admitting guilt.
It should be noted that most air crash investigations end with a "probable" cause. This is an acknowledgement of the fact that if new information comes to light then the original determined cause of a crash might be wrong. It's not indicative of a conspiracy, it's just how investigators work. They acknowledge that it's nearly impossible to be 100% certain.
As for the 2 second break in the recording, it was an old decrepit aircraft, and it had wiring faults. As the NTSB thinks a wiring fault was responsible for igniting the centre wing tank it's perfectly reasonable to assume that wiring faults also interrupted the recording for a moment. Other things on the recording indicate one of the gauges in the cockpit was behaving weirdly, which could also have been due to a wiring fault.
I remember the evening of July 17, 1996, very vividly. Even though no one I knew was on Flight 800, for some reason this one felt so personal. Those who lost someone they love, they are all equally as important. But, Mr. Lychner's story stood out the most to me. I always wondered what became of him, and I'm so glad to see that he remarried and has moved on.
I will always remember the date because it was my friend's birthday and we were out in Manhattan and learned about the explosion as we were getting ready to go back home to Long Island.
21:58 - "I did not find any holes." As the video shows the plane littered with holes.
In another video, the same guy "I was standing outside looking down and I did not find any evidence of the ground."
can you explain more of what you are talking about? thanx
I was 5 years old, we were leaving cupsogue and saw what I thought was a firework over the ocean. I didn’t know it was a plane crash and loved fireworks but this creeped me out, for years I would have dreams of strange fireworks and phenomenon so happening over the ocean putting me into a phobia of the ocean for years to come. I was so young I never understood that it was a plane crash but i knew something was horribly wrong. One night we were talking about flight 800 in my teens and for the first time realized that was flight 800 I saw.
It’s weird how July 17th is a somber day in aviation history, marked by tragic incidents like TWA Flight 800, Alliance Air Flight 7412, and TAM Airlines Flight 3054. I know that because 7/17 is my b-day and I remember all these flight crashes because of this 😔
me too my b- day is dec 21 same for pan am over scottland !
My birthday is 7/18 so that is how i remember TWA flight 800. I was 9 years old when it went down.
17 July 2014 is when Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine.
@@gerardpoltawsky4656Have 4 friends born 12/21. What are the odds?
@@HPG747Wow, that’s insane. The odds of multiple jumbo jets going down on the same has to be insanely low.
SO SAD 💔💔💔💔 HEARTBREAKING
*Please turn on the automatic closed captions!*
This is useful for many people, _besides the hearing impaired_---if children are playing in the backgroud; outside noise coming through an open window; listening late at night when others are asleep, and other reasons.
How does a huge news organization like CNN not have captions enabled?
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That pilot who witnessed it…his trauma 😰💔
*_Former Boeing Everett - where 747's are produced._* I was working there in 1996 at the time of Accident. From the beginning, lots of confusion what happened and how do we prevent it from happening again. It wasn't until much later in 2000 that the Final Report was released. I have been inside the Center Fuel Tank on new 747's and they are big enough to walk through standing up.
The likely culprit was the Center Fuel Tank exploded. It was empty at the time, but fumes from the Jet Fuel (refined Kerosene) ignited. At the time, it was hot and the aircraft was waiting for hours due to delays at JFK Airport. The AC equipment is located under the center fuel tank. Heat from the AC's heated up the Tank and the little fuel left on bottom. Wiring had damaged insulation, and a spark caused an explosion at 16,000 feet when it was still climbing. Front of plane blew off and fell to the ocean below. Rest of plane with wings climbed steeply because center of gravity shifted towards rear with front of plane now gone. It too fell into the ocean. There were no survivors.
Since then, wire with this kind of insulation is no longer used. Older planes are inspected more frequently and wiring replaced if indicated. A better layer of insulation between the AC equipment was installed on older and all new aircraft to prevent heat from reaching tanks. Inert Nitrogen Gas is also used to replace any Air in Fuel Tanks. Air supports Combustion while Nitrogen prevents it. There have been no further Accidents of this kind since the New Safety Procedures went into effect.
When they said that the souls who were lost died instantly, I hate to ask this question, but how? Many of their bodies were still in tact in the ocean. Was it from asphyxiation?
@@cleochip2938 The instant decompression and thin air at that height alone could kill most but what instantly killed them was most likely snapping of the neck once the plane broke apart those winds at that speed are fierce. Just think of the adrenaline rush from merely putting your head slightly out of a car window how the wind whips and rips past your face. Only people who may not have died instantly had to be at the rear of the plane
@@cleochip2938Plane was at 16,000 feet. After explosion, the center section pitched up and rose thousands more before falling. Lack of Oxygen and trauma from explosion probably killed them before they hit the sea.
@@SJR_Media_Group i think it depends on the position of the passengers. The ones probably to the rear of the craft wouldnt have had the same trauma. The plane didnt go up to high, so they wouldnt have had hypoxia. The alaskan airlines jet with the door that blew off in jan happened around the same altitude, no one passed out. We will never know who was alive but it must have been beyond terrifying. Its just awful to think about.
@@s3vR3xThanks for comment...
1:50 god was only made up in a time there was no science and people couldn't understand so many things. if people "believe" (the word says it) there is a god, it is the most mean and terrible creature éver lived! deal with that. 🤦🏽♀️
May your family rest in peace. I understand pain . It hurts.
What is that supposed to mean???
Yes…I agree with you…and you never get over it you just get through it one day at a time…
Did you really need to highlight all the religious mumbo-jumbo? I came here for facts.
moriches bay was the site of a UFO recovery on the inlet island to the right, i m a flounder fisherman wittnessed us army , navy and coast guard operation going on there in sept of 1989. was even told by coast guard to stay away from area but you could see it was a huge operation ! sorry to all who lost family on that day .
I just watched the Mayday episode. The thought of the cockpit falling to the ocean with the pilots still alive is just horrifying to imagine. My sincere condolences to the families of everyone involved.
Was it made by Boeing?
@@Maryyeung12894 Funny enough. It was 747-400
@@SleezelGreezel*747-100, it was the older -100 model
I’ve seen that Mayday episode as well.
@@Maryyeung12894One of the best planes ever made. And, ignore the media hysteria, Boeing airplanes still have the best safety record of any airline manufacturer in history. Both Boeing and Airbus passenger planes are incredibly safe.
The NTSB was annoyed by the FBI during the investigation.
How many 747’s have faced 100F/37C temperatures for an afternoon with an empty centre fuel tank: probably 100%. How many have blown up spontaneously - 1……. How many 747’s were grounded by precaution afterwards? Zero…
Main witness saw wings fall off at explosion meaning impossible for the aircraft to climb afterward - NTSB version: it was the aircraft climbing, not a missile climbing.
Hundreds thought they saw a missile: they were described as having ‘poor memories’ or ‘were drunk’ by the NTSB hearing.
Wouldn’t be the first or only time the US Navy shot down a civilian airliner: Desert Storm - US Navy shoots down an Iran Air A300 killing all civilians on board and then denies it.
Nice "disclaimer" at the end, Kalstrom. The way the FBI and NTSB prosecuted journalists, selectively ignored CREDIBLE witnesses who saw 800 explode, even from from "ordnance" (remember the Army Guard helo pilot looking right at it?), the Mach 1.5+ radar returns, and on and on) was absolutely disgraceful. Then there's the REAL video that CNN played and so many of us saw from the deck that aired many times the next day before it was pulled? Many people know the the truth buddy. May God have mercy on you.
Fred Meyer, whom you refer to, told the authorities he saw a streak of light, then almost immediately a fireball which fell to the water in some 10 seconds. This supports the streak being a late stage event. He later decided to repudiate his own testimony because it didn't support his conviction he saw ordnance. While he states he has seen ordnance before, he does not say he ever saw a commercial airliner explode before. So how does he know that might not also resemble ordnance?
"mach 1.5+ radar returns" might well be the most powerful case for a missile. The NTSB did take up this claim, questioning "the quality of the radar data
representing this debris by citing information such as ½ nautical mile
“scatter” between multiple FAA radar facilities. " This prompted a rebuttal by Tom Stalcup which to me demonstrates the futility of non-trained nonspecialists being able to figure all this out. Without a neutral platform to judge both sides, I cannot accept this argument as beyond reasonable doubt. Can you?
Totality.
Are you saying this would be the first time a military man would be pressured to change his statement?
The plane accelerated after being hit. A high AOA with the same power setting would decelerate the plane, not climb it- at least not for long as shown in that bogus CIA animation.
Notice I said "CIA animation". Why the hell the CIA?
Why was a Stinger missile parts briefing document (regarding what to look for in the water) left in a hotel room by an FBI agent? Stingers eject a battery module after firing.
Why have no other 747's just exploded like this, despite flying out of hot places like Dubai and Saudi for decades?
What was the mystery boat seen leaving at high speed from the scene? Never identified.
Were the 200 people who saw a missile all totally wrong?
Were you alive then? I was. Many people recall seeing a video playing on CNN and in Asia for the first few hours after the incident that showed the smoke trail. It's "gone" now.
Do you believe everything the government touches and always has "missing data" is legit? Two seconds gone? How nice.
Where's the full cockpit skin of the plane? I see a LOT of aluminum missing on the rebuild. This is exactly where the missile hit the 777 over Ukraine. In the captain's window.
There is so much more.
Totality.
Rumors. I believe scientific evidence, not rumors.
I remember that video!!
its called accidentally shooting down a passenger plane during a military war game YANKEE 96
The man who lost his wife and two daughters has had the best attitude! I believe the investigators got it right. My condolences to all who lost loved ones on this flight. May the victims RIP
This is so heartbreaking. RIP to all who perished in this tragedy. 😭
RIP
To the passengers and crew of TWA Flight 800
24:45 yes, IT WAS THE CROSS that helped find everyone. They all magically appeared in the exact order of who got the cross next. GAWWWD is so good. 😒 Sir, I’m not buying this story. Secondly, where was this God when the center fuel tank exploded. Off somewhere worrying about the gays, it seems. Someone always ties their god into a tragedy in some fanatical way. The whole thing was caused by negligence on the part of TWA and if your god was so good and powerful, that it went out of its way to make sure you got a cross to give to others to make sure their loved ones were found - bc it seems like you’re implying that they wouldn’t have been otherwise - then your god could have prevented the entire thing in the first place.
I worked for twa as a flight attendant. To this day I do not believe it was a malfunction. Most twa people believe it was a friendly fire accident. Over 200 people who saw this agree💯🙏
I’ll take a multi-year and agency investigation over your ‘belief’. You don’t even understand what damage it does. You are no better than those who deny Sandy Hook. Shame on you.
As yes, being a TWA flight attendant must mean you're more qualified to speak on this than experts who's job it is to investigate these things
@Crustaceannationrepresentative she probably is. You are a smart ass. Coverups happens allllll the time.
@@Sylvia-zv1eq And what's the reason for a coverup here? There weren't any naval vessels in the area at that time and they sure as hell wouldn't be firing live missiles into civilian air corridors
It's ridiculous to think it was a shoulder fire missile. Do the math. If a naval AA missile was out of range. Then there's no way a shoulder fire missile could have reached 13,700 alt @ 15 miles out to sea.Traveling at 800 mph. Best range on a SF is 550 yds. There's no way a SF missile can do that. It would've had to be a vehicle mounted AA missle. And the fire trail would be so large. It would like apollo 11 taking off. You just can't carry around a missle that large. And fire one without anybody knowing exactly where it came from.
It was a missle...
@@user-fi6qr8wb9uNo it wasn’t
You can not reason with dumbasses, unfortunately.
Sure 😮
People in the in the New York area saw otherwise.
false flags, false flags everywhere.
Its crazy how deranged people are to bring Trump and politics into this video.
Our world has become a pit of hatred...where is that Asteroid?
@@Fatdog-Dakind There has always been hatred in the world. It only seems like there's more hatred now because of the false impression that we're smarter these days. We're not smarter. We're actually more dumb. Spiritually, emotionally, and mentally more dumb. We've forgotten why we're here, as if many of us knew in the first place.
Politics connects everything. You're a bit naive frankly if you don't see that.
@@Jeff-bz6jp Thank you! That precisely explains what someone as stupid and hateful as Donald Trump became such a popular politician-it's a reflection of our people and times.
First of all why did the FBI do the investigation? It has to be the NTSB period. The NTSB was investigators were not happy to be treated in a bad way. This has got to be a missile
It was a NATO missile. that is, the missiles that were seen.
Proof, please. Not rumors. Proof.
It was considered a crime scene at first
@@JimMac23 Proof but In order. So it was not a center fuel tank just blowing up. And that was proven in federal court. See RAY LAHR v NTSB.
@@gabemorgan1212 That was the needed P.R. The gov knew that a 'TARGET AV' impacted the plane. But that would come out in time.
All the Planes talking off throughout history, and TWA 800 was the only plane to ever have a center fuel tank issue due to Hot weather? Plus multiple people said they saw something streaking TOWARD the aircraft. Yeah, nothing to see here..
Not true. There was one other plane. Transmile Airlines 727
I call BS too because if that was a common issue then why didnt this happen to multiple planes that day ? If the weather was the issue , it would have happen to a few planes ? I dont want to be called a conspiracy theorist , but , I believe there was a bigger issue with the plane that is not being disclosed to the public. This story just doesnt make sense to any thinking human , it just doesnt !
@@brittrugg2676no similarity. It was 2006 and NTSB again claimed that. No evidence since the plane had passed the wiring checks.
@@brittrugg2676 also, temperature in New York in July is 29c degree at most, and it was 7 to 8 pm not 2 pm ... temperature wasn't that high.
Read about the Swiss Cheese model in reference to aviation accidents. If all the holes in the Swiss Cheese line up, then you have an accident. But if all the holes don't line up, then you don't have an accident. Unfortunately, on that day all the holes lined up for that particular airplane and the people riding in it. Change one thing that day, like it sitting there for two hours instead of four, and probably the plane makes it to Paris and everything is fine.
Incredible how they were able to put that plane back together
Yes, my sentiment is exactly 🤔
I remember that night. I was at a concert (Chicago, Crosby Stills & Nash) at Fiddler's Green, which is in the Denver metro area. Heard about the crash from a fellow concert-goer.
Former Boeing Everett... NTSB / Boeing conducted full size test of center fuel tank. It had air / fuel fumes and electrical spark caused instant explosion. It was significant enough to blow a 747 center fuel tank apart. This would had destroyed the aircraft midair. It was a non-survival event. ruclips.net/video/3v-0JgV1hg4/видео.html
My friend's father was an off-duty pilot n this flight.
Cap Kevorkian ?
no,@@BRAIRCO
I really remember this day like is was yesterday, i was raised in Yonkers New York and this is the flight TWA that my parents been in; there's has been so many speculation on the US military was involved in shooting down this aircraft by a fighter jet and it's missile because supposedly this aircraft was held hostage in the air; i don't believe at all that this aircraft exploded on its own just because (it) encounter a malfunction; nope, i don't believe because USA doesn't negotiate with terrorism!!
Think about it; it isn't the first time the US government had lied to the public 😮😮
I cannot imagine losing your wife AND children. My sister took French in high school, and to this day, she refuses any trip requiring flying over the ocean because a high school French class on this flight. It traumatized her deeply.
July 17, 1996. Exactly 18 years later to the day, July 17, 2014 Malaysian Airlines flight 17 was shot down by a Russian missile over the Ukraine whilst flying from Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpar. Exactly 2 months prior to this I flew over the exact area on a Thai Airways flight from London - Bangkok, this being the usual flight path for carriers flying from Europe to S.E.Asia. It could have happened to any civilian passenger flight, including me.
This air disaster happened on July 17, 1996 not 2014. The documentary and movie came out in 2013 after years of extensive investigation as to what caused the plane to explode mid takeoff.
He said 18 years ago..
Ghadafi and Saddam has nothing to do with this after all.
Takeaway... if you suck at poker the government may have a job for you. The tell is especially strong with Panetta; notice his strongly contradictory words and body/facial language throughout his performance here. He's lying.
RIP to those lost. May the truth someday be revealed.
There are better documentaries. One showed the investigation into the fuel and electrical lines and their confuguration.
This isn't about the accident, though. It is about the people affected by it.
That wasn't the reason. A missile was.
It's CNN. What do you expect?
The fuel tank story is bull shit
The navy shot that lane down
To the guy specifically, who lost his beautiful family (at beginning, 2 little blonde daughters), obviously my heart pangs for all. But this is a heartfelt message from my family to you. May you find solace, from this transatlantic message of hope. We are with you, and hope our love reaches you. There are people pan-global who care, empathise and feel your pain and loss, albeit on a different level. In the most dreadful of circumstances, my family and I convey our love, and are sincerely glad your precious loved ones were all recovered and laid to rest with the dignity you all warranted. R.I.P.🪽✝️⛪️
Okay, sorry. Looks like we wrote a book here❤😮🇱🇷however we just might actually do just that!😮🙄🤔😢🤬
You know a Navy ship fired that missle and they lied to everyone
Two days earlier, I was in Nashville enjoying the music of French guitarist Marcel Dadi. Sadly, he was on that flight headed home when FLT 800 fell into the sea.
They left the AC packs running and it got too hot. Fuel vapor/oxygen mixture ignited in the empty center tank. Leaving tanks empty with a bit of fuel sloshing around in there is incredibly dangerous.
That has been proven thats what happened
I remember that woman reporting that she had visions of this happening prior to the crash.
The movie final destination was based around this psychic phenomena.
Former aircraft mechanic in the 70's with com'l pilot's license. An empty fuel tank is FAR dangerous that a full one as it's the vapor of fuel and not the fuel itself that either burns or when it's concentrated explodes. Case in point: we had a C-130 cargo plane in front of our hanger, the fuel had been drained from the left wing, and (with breathing equipment) a mechanic was INSIDE the wing through a manhole cover on top of the wing. An inspector was standing on top of the wing signing off on his work. Some idiot threw a switch in the cockpit (marked with a red tag!), an electrical arc (spark) occurred in the wing. The force of the explosion obliterated the two men and blew the wing right off the aircraft.
Conspiracy theories aside, the NTSB got it right when they figured out that the empty of fuel, (but not vapors) center tank was set off by an arcing electrical line that ran right through the tank. This is one of the hazards of aging aircraft that require more and more maintenance to keep them airworthy and flying.
They never said the tank was empty. Actually, if it's an overseas flight, it was more likely full.
@@melinda5777 There was a center tank in-between the wings that was not full
That sounds so avoidable. How horrendous that people died. ;(
I'm still skeptical of it. Even if the center fuel tank was completely empty , the voltage that they are saying arced and ignited it would still be too low. If this was true , it would've been a far more common occurrence amongst many different types of craft. Sitting on a tarmac in NYC for a few hours ? Imagine how many failures or common maladies would have occurred to craft sitting on the tarmac in Texas or Arizona where it's really , really hot.
That’s why it’s so annoying when people act like a car full of fuel is a danger to have a big explosion. A car’s fuel tank is basically can only explode if it’s running on fume.
The U.S Navy accidentally shot down TWA flight 800. They were off the east coast running a live fire drill at the time. Obviously the coverup was immediately implemented to conceal the incompetence of the military. Military grade explosives residue was found on multiple pieces of wreckage salvaged. The lame excuse given by the government/NTSB for the explosives residue on the wreckage was one, the plane was used to transport troops to the Middle East for operation Desert Storm. Perhaps the plane was, though the troops transported would have merely had their personnel gear onboard. Not explosive ordnance. Besides explosive ordnance have the explosives sealed and contained within the ordnance. Thus making it impossible to spread residue on the plane. The second lame excuse is that the plane had supposedly previously been used for a dog-training explosive-detection exercise. Which wouldn’t account for the number of pieces of wreckage which had explosive residue on them and the location of the wreckage pieces which did have explosive residue on them.
If what you say is true, it sounds more likely that a bomb exploded on board.
THANK You.
R.I.P to who was lost 💔
Poor guy, lost his whole family? 💀💀💀😭
I can't even imagine what it was like in there when that blew & the nose came off. Sick.
I remember this event very well as my sister was getting married and her husband was supposed to be in New York for Boeing and had struggled to get the time off to get married. He was a Boeing engineer and was supposed to be taking part in exercises with the military simulating a commercial airplane being flown into a New York skyscraper, we had talked about the exercises in regards to him getting the time off. The point is the military was supposed to track a plane and shoot it down but obviously there wasn’t supposed to be any live fire and I can tell you his phone was blowing up from his boss before the news was on the air, this exercise also confirmed for me George bush was lying on 9/11 when he claimed the government never considered someone would use airplanes to destroy buildings as we had budgeted money for and conducted exercises for that very scenario
Yeah Dubya didn't look very convincing in that schoolroom reading an upside down book.
Likewise multiple stories of draft dodging Cheney playing simulated war games on the East Coast that morning creating massive fake radar blips from DC to Boston.
So you believe they shot down TWA flight 800? I imagine your brother in law has to answer some questions? Officially they still have no answer on cause. I sure hope they didn’t shoot it down and it didn’t “act “ like a plane ✈️ being shot down?
AMEN!!!! ✝️
Man, this is very sad. After a long week watching the 9/11 videos this just pushed me over the edge and I just start watching. That man that lost his wife and 2 daughters really moved me.
My friend was the lead engineer on the investigation. He is a very smart guy and I trust him for sure. He showed me pictures of the reconstructed plane (he reassembled it twice). There is zero percent chance the plane was shot down.
Reassembled it twice? It was only reassembled in the Calverton Hangar in Long Island during the FBI investigation that lasted over a year. I don't care what your friend says, 700 plus people saw something happen that night, some more specific than others and the FBI didn't give a crap what they had to say. There was evidence of a missile but it was suppressed by the FBI. James Sanders and his wife Liz, a former TWA employee went to jail for simply getting a piece of the plane seat examined in a lab and it came back positive for nitrates. The radar data released via FOIA, showed the debris traveling at Mach 4. It wasn't a spark in the CWT, enough with the lies and deceit already. I have a myriad of contradictory evidence proving that you and your imaginary friend are full of shit. Whistleblowers came out years later confirming that the investigation was tainted from the get go by the FBI and the CIA.
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wow, really credible.
No evidence of a missle, bomb, or explosive material other than jet fuel, corrrect?
Someone for sure would have leaked that critical info if there was the slightest evidence me thinks. Too many investigators to all be in on something else, like a terrorist attack.
God bless them. On another note look how bad this Nation has become, When a national tragedy occurred back then OUR Strong, Well spoken, Deep Caring, Articulate, Ect. President came out and Addressed the issue in person. Fast Forward to today with the Neanderthal in Office. That fool would need a teleprompter and would still be mumbling to address it!!!
I had an airline mechanic friend in 1996. He was only on the job a year or two, pretty green. After this crash, he was tasked with climbing into the 747 center fuel tanks at Oakland airport. He told me there was no way the fuel tank gauge harness could spark because of the way it was reverse negatively grounded. But thats not to say it certainly ignited from the aircon pacs or something else like the fbi said. I believe the fbi and think thats commendable they told the truth that they couldn’t exactly figure it out. God rest the passengers and i hope peace for the surviving family members😢
My heart goes out to All of them❤.But the Man who lost his wife Pam and his 2 daughters hit me hart.Imagine you talk to your wife on the phone hearing your girls behind her and half hour later your family is gone😢
This plane was shot down. Either by accident or intentionally.
I remember a photograph of a woman on Long Island where you can clearly see a rocket trail going straight up above her left shoulder.
After one view on the news the picture was immediately “ memory- holed”
Are you on Facebook?
I've always been skeptical about the reasons for the crash 😢
I believe dawns father finding out about his daughter from his mom that passed. I dont believe in ghosts but i believe that we can get communications from beyond in our minds. I am glad she was there to meet her.
I remember hearing about Flight 800 that came across the news back in 1996 it was really bad and made me sick to my stomach