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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Joined today in studio with Amanda Rae (@TheAmandaRaeGrant ) we discuss never talked about behind-the-scenes secrets about her time on the TV show "Escaping Polygamy."
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A&E mishandling victims and survivors seems to be a theme! Several people from the Scientology: The Aftermath show report similar stories. They need trauma informed therapists behind the scenes on every show!
It’s not in the show they need them. It’s when they make contact with people they need to follow up with them or connect them to help.
Therapist here. I would NEVER do that. I wouldn't stand by and let someone be interviewed through their trauma reactions for hours and I wouldn't permit sessions I conducted to be recorded and broadcast on TV. I get what you're saying, but a therapist who did participate in a show like this would be suspect at best IMO. Reality TV and Trauma Therapy don't mix.
@@kontzelso how do you get people out of cults?
@patriciaritchie1783 Not with reality TV. As a therapist I might agree to be a part of a documentary or investigative news program, but not reality TV. Survivors have the right to tell their story however they wish (I hope the survivors on this A&E show were well compensated.) As a therapist I won't use my skills and knowledge to support the kind of sensationalism that reality TV orchestrates.
@@kontzel thank you, finally someone who knows ethics!!
This has been the thing that haunts me about Amanda’s story-that I could be seeing people out at the store who are trapped in a group like this and never know.
So glad Amanda escaped.♥️✌️
OMG I think the same thing all the time!
You two would make great cohosts of a podcast. Your personalities match wonderfully.
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
Amanda and Shelise is SUCH a top tier duo. If you’ve ever seen the movie Dodgeball, they have the two guys commentating on the tournament, yeah I’d hire Amanda and Shelise to be the commentators on my daily life
😂😂😂 you’re too kind ❤️
What part of your budget is allocated for attorney/legal fees?
It's so sad your mom is still in, considering the brief look into her life that we saw. She was really going through it.
I watch both of your channels. I appreciate what you're doing. I'm exmo and it was so hard to leave because of my ffmaily
So proud of you for facing these issues head on - it was so brave of you to leave all you’ve ever known. Reminds me of some real life handmaids tale shit! I left the extremist fundamental Christian “community” I was raised in 13 years ago and had no idea what I was doing. It took another 6-7 years for me to realize I was only holding on to the faith part inside due to fear of going to hell. I let go all the way and eventually started therapy and seeking out stories like yours to give me hope. That is where true healing has been able to begin. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. You are an inspiration. Much love. (This message is for both you gals - you both faced leaving the false safety of religion in quest for freedom and help others do the same - you are both heroines.) ❤️
So nicely said. ❤
As much as I would wish all this depraved stuff never happened, it is a really really good sign that we are learning about it now.
I was so disappointed when the show stopped. I was hoping it was going to help others want to leave their cults. When it ended I remember thinking that I hoped it wasn’t because they didn’t have enough people fleeing to record an keep the show going. The show was so empowering and heartbreaking at the same time. It was just so awesome to get to witness the people start new paths in life and how each person was reacted differently. It was interesting because I didn’t know anything about these religious groups until I seen the show. Love you two together, you have great chemistry and personalities mesh so well together.
I appreciate the kindness and care you always extend to the people you interview. It’s never exploitative. 🥰
Amanda you are instilling so much hope in young woman near and far by speaking up and speaking out. You are so strong and your efforts will be more helpful than you will ever know.
Ya if they are out, otherwise they don't have tv...
But ya maybe other aspects and when they leave
I grew up in Bountiful. It’s a good feeling to see yall growing up and breaking free. Keep using your voice!!!
@@Lemonade_Stand_ The girls I knew would have been from the Order, or some knew them as the Kingston group.
@@elliebarak5853 nevermind i was thinking Bountiful in Canada. I forgot there is a Bountiful in Utah as well.
At about 43 minutes in, when Amanda talks about how empowering it is to see yourself as other people might be seeing you, I remember feeling exactly that way when I started modeling. Yes, I see the flaws in myself, but I also see the things that I (and other people) like. Also, getting that outside perspective helps me see things I might want to change, & maybe even ways to implement those changes. Even if I never take the necessary steps, knowledge is power. So many levels of pride!
Omg Val’s sugar scrub is SERIOUSLY the best sugar scrub I’ve ever used!!!!
Amanda is a whistleblower and a hero!❤
I wanna know more about the body guards. I was always interested in how you found them if they also understood the trauma
Documentary / reality TV producers absolutely do not have good intentions when they push survivors to cry like they did to Amanda.
I understand why Amanda feels the show had an overall positive impact, but that can be true while also acknowledging the producers and network chose to abuse the survivors. There were plenty of opportunities to support instead of exploit.
I recently learned about the work of Jess Shane. She’s bringing awareness to the deeply exploitative practices of the documentary / reality show field. The power dynamics and ethics of documentaries are so important, especially with these shows/films becoming so much more popular and sensationalizing.
The one that always stuck with me was an FLDS woman being pushed to talk about SA. Her sister? Some family member anyway who was helping, basically said you're OK I had to as well
The way you've learned to set boundaries and still be so open and helping while honoring yourself is such a beautiful thing. I hope I can get to that place someday too. You are such a beacon of light!
Awww so happy to know your here… One human to another ..I’m proud of you….
RUclips girls are amazing brave strong, incredible women! I admire you so much! I really wish they would bring your show back Amanda I feel like that helps so many people get out of that religion! Maybe someday! Thank you for all that you do to bring awareness and for also showing usthe power we have inside to make our own life rich and meaningful in our own ways❤
The show doesn't help...they don't watch TV in the cult ..it helps everyone else understand tho...
Replay crew. Missed live. Adore you both and am subscribed to both. ❤️
19:12 she has recently shared her story on 'Secrets of polygamy '. She's such a powerful woman, and I hope she knows she's impacted many women to stand in their truth. Loved watching the two of you together ❤️ hope you do more collabs
Loved this episode and love both of you ladies. The comment about Shawano, WI piqued my interest as it’s such a tiny town and I have a friend who lives there. Would love to know more about it.
She gave me a good laugh when she tried to say Shawano. I was born and raised just north of Green Bay. The SIST is a bad cult and scary too.
Doing things with a "bang" is an Amanda thing!
I didn't grow up in a cult persay, but I did grow up in a cult like family. My mom even tried to start her own religion at one point and was low-key mad that we didn't buy into it. She even wrote a book to try and indictrinate others. Not sure if she ever finished and/or published it. On my dads side they were Catholic with weird interpretations of Catholicism.
Give us some examples of weird interpretations...
Reruns of Escaping of Polygamy comes on late at night on CourtTv channel.
I have been following Amanda Rae for a long time!
We do better when we know better. We dont need to beat ourselves up for choices we made when we didnt know we could choose different.
I was raised in an Evangelical cult in the Midwest, and much of what has come from Mormons and ex-Mormons has been astonishingly similar to my upbringing. I'd have coffee with you two if I could!
Where? What South State?
❤️ you and Amanda!!
I love the collab, I watch you both ❤.
One episode I would like to see is Amanda family tree 😊 since it's hard to do and make sense.. Maybe with yalls help she can make it more clear.. don't get me wrong I love Amanda's episode trying to break it down with the sticky notes ❤
Great collab. I love both your channels. I know reality shows are fake but every time I hear folks talk about their experience like Shelise, I learn they’re faker than I realized. What Amanda said about trying to have boundaries with family who basically just use you and aren’t reciprocal is so true and so hard. My mother is much the same.
Sending you both so much love 💗💗
Amanda is the best!!!
I’m so glad you ladies all stuck together on that contract. Beautiful loyal supportive bond y’all have 🖤
I struggled to find a place to stream the show here in Canada, and finally the place I watched it was the streamer Kanopy that I get credits for with my public library card. But they weren’t organized very well and it didn’t seem like every episode was there, so I haven’t seen it all!
Love you two soooooooo much. Thank you for all you are doing.
Missed the live, but gotta comment, cause Amanda Rae is the best!
Omg i havent watched yet but im so excited i love when amanda is on i love yalls vibe together trauma and comedy its how i handle my past too you have to laugh when you can❤😊
Amanda....wise beyond her years❤❤
Shelise, in the intro when you introduced the guest as from the 'Fundamentalist Sect of Mormonism', you forgot to say you're from the regular 'Joe Blow' Mormons 😂
Whoops! Lol I feel like people know by now, but you’re right. Home team cult is regular ole Mormonism
Thanks for your bravery ladies!
You should interview people from the "Dancing with the Devil" Documentary next
Second this!!!!
Amanda is amazing 🤩
Shelise is so beautiful with the green t -shirt. You are both beautiful and inteligentnt and brave. Im shore you save a lot a people from manipulative cults. Wish all people are free.
You’re one of the prettiest women I’ve ever seen. I’m sorry that you had to go through this
I love this friendship ❤
This is an interesting show. I know so little about the inside of the tv world. I really enjoined Escaping Polygamy and was sorry there weren't more episodes. It was an important show.
Amanda you said that a lot of The Order are out in the communities. What is the main area they stay in though? Southern Utah?
In Denmark we also find "leaving...." in the crime cat.
Love love love y’all’s collabs!
We have 9 kids, first two were csections We didn't have 9 because someone told us to LOL
Sounds like you had a very necessary surgery. And it probably would never happen the same again.
Keep celebrating her arrival, even if sometimes you grieve a little for plans going awry. Congrats!
Both of you are so great
Ironic that dreams are such a big thing to them because watching Escaping Polygamy would give me nightmares. 😅
Very interesting, thanks for sharing, good luck with everything
Two beautiful women! ❤
LOVE Y’ALL SO VERY MUCH!!!
Is there a place for polygamous escapees to go to?
Like a women shelter specifically for ex cult memebers?
Like i envision this big hotel or apartment building with resources in house for people to go to, so they can be safe.
These people still need help escaping. I hope there is a non profit who is helping people escape.
Holding out help. Amanda links them in all her videos.
I would so love that see Jessica on your show with Amanda ❤! I love you all and have watched escaping polygamy a million times and love watching all you the people from it and their channels! Sending love to you all ❤️
Yay Amanda! Ask her about their diets in the cult. (the not dumpster diving diet I mean)
Did y'all ever find out who the insider was?
That's what I'm wondering. I feel like the show ended abruptly
I ❤ Amanda Rae ☺
GREAT SHOW LADIES!!! 🦋🦋🦋
Love you guys
Love you Amanda 🖤🖤🖤🖤 beautiful as always inside and out
I loved Escaping Polygamy! But one that drove me crazy was when the escapee would sneak off to meet the sisters to plan the escape. You've escaped! Just don't go back! 🤷🏾♀️
Im frim wisconsin and know shawano and havent heard about it...!!!???
It’s streamed on Hulu, here. At least it was a couple of months ago.
I liked this show
Boiling blood? Who the he’ll came up with this monstrous idea?
Loved escaping pologomy now watching protesters at Blue Buildings ...Your in LA? Would Love for you to do more about current cult being isolated rite there in LA. Scientology Paramilitary "source" Cult LR Hubbard stold from other religions very much leaning on Mormonisum.
Why would you need to dictate/control anyone if it isn't compensating for something you havedon't going on with you
😆😂 you're so cool together 👏👏👏🥳🥳🥳
watching this makes me think of the quiet on set documentary, that exposed nickelodeon for its maltreatment of child actors... only to turn around and maltreat the former child actors that appeared in their documentary...
9:39 THIS 👊😎💥❤ Daaaaayum girl 😍
I LOVE JESSICA ❤️
Oh no, did I miss the Linda listen?
Replay crew.
I want to know, how is Warren Jeff in Jail,and was convicted, but the dad of the abusive dad who lived in Idaho was not able to be found guilty as well?
Amanda Rae was not apart of the Warren Jeffs cult
Omg I know VAL! What?
Fix the sound one loud one quiet
You may of felt like you didn't do better, but how do you do something you didn't know what to do. The show did what it needed to do.
Thank you for posting this video. I have to give you a little feedback on the sound. The sound was very uneven between her and you. She was very loud and you were very soft. It was a little hard for me to find the right volume. I haven't finished listening to the video but it's kind of hard because I can hardly hear you and I can hear her very clearly.
Sorry about that! I ended up turning up my mic
I really hope Amanda's mum gets out for good one day 😊
That or they just can't/ won't care so much and or only so much about others
Tell me how these kind of people do really so much of anything if it's not for their own benefit
Sound isn't good on this video
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As much as I liked the show, and am rooting for anyone's deconstruction I have an issue with the overall multiple marriage bad tone. Just one acknowledgement that nonreligious ethnical nonmonogamy & polyamory exist would be great. If the message is only ever this is blanket bad then well people like us never get rights.
Mormonism and Islam are certainly alike.
No. They’re not. Lol and FLDS is not Mormon.
Like they have any avenue they'll use to get/go after anyone else they can victimize just to not make/leave themselves feeling any better really at all neccisarilly
I feel like a lot of this comes back to what I call awful boomer mentality
As in I don't think this is just a cult or this one cult that does/is like this
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Did you ever find love Amanda
Coming in our next episode together. The whole thing is about relationships!
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I feel like the audio is very very slightly out of sync 🤔
So many of the good people to me are/aren't boomers don't get me wrong,but a lot of the other people are not of that generation &/or don't have the awful mentality like that
To me the awful person just likes/can't help but to flex/take their pain/anger out on others