I think it should be a musical crime that this album wasn't a massive success..This albums song writing and emotional potency is the best billys made since the 90s
It seems many people are discovering this album now, long after it came out. I am glad to see it getting some love. I was able to see this entire album played on their Oceania tour in 2012. Good times.
So apparently the guitar he used on this recording was also used to record Mayonaise and he also wrote 1979 on it, but didn’t use it to record the album version. It’s a Teisco Kimberly Apollo II guitar, similar to James Iha’s Teisco ET-230 guitar on the Rocket video and the Pisces Iscariot band photo.
Rise! Love is here Oh don't make me wonder Life's never clear where choice is a gift To use and abuse To build on proof Oh don't make me suffer Birds find the wind and wing Rest in the shells I've desinged Run through the fields I've denied And stroll upon the years I'm alive There's a sun that shines in There's a world that stares out at me And all I refuse to please Breathe! Love is air Oh don't make me suffer To dash debonair where chaste is the wish To bust with pain A heart goes blank Oh don't make me wonder To ask on behalf of you Of you, where are you? Where are you in you? There's a sun that shines in There's a world that stares out at me And all I refuse to please There's a sun that shines in There's a world that stares out at me And all I refuse And all I'd ever use in me There's a sun that shines in me There's a sun that shines There's a sun that shines in me
This album took me waay longer to discover than it should've. Don't get me wrong, I loved the og line-up but the fact that this is still a banging sound just reiterates how amazing Billy Corgan is. Not that it's a surprise to anyone but the Pumpkins would be nothing without him.
Most of the people who are bitching about Oceania know as much about Smashing Pumpkins as they do about Genomic mapping. They own Rotten Apples, a pirated copy of Mellon Collie and Siamese Dream.
I feel like this song came into my life at just the right time... Thank you Billy Corgan for always believing in yourself. "There's a sun that shines in you!"
This is, without a doubt, their best album in YEARS. Great lyrics (as per usual), each song has its own beautiful quality, and there's always a kind of magical, oneiric quality in Billy's voice (for the most part, especially on this album, etc.). A lot of people do not have poetry running through their veins, so they cannot even remotely grasp the insight of such an Imaginative gloriousness. This album is perfect after reading Gaston Bachelard's "The Poetics of Space." Bravo and then some!
This song is just so beautiful...the modal progression just sounds so hopeful...BIlly's voice just sounds perfect, the guitars soar, the drums stomp like no tomorrow...i'm sure this would just fill a stadium...
This song is amazing! The seamless transitions, song structure, melody and lyrics really make this song. Plus it has a tinge of Mellon Collie\Siamese Dream feel to it.
When I was first listening to Oceania in it's entirety, I didn't really know what to expect. But when I got to about 3:25 on this song, the music gave me an incredible feeling and a smile on my face that wouldn't go away. I'm going to listen to this album for many years to come. Thank you, Billy.
Darcy did shit for SP, when I see people complain that SP is "gone" since all the members left, remember who recorded all the tracks and wrote all the songs in the first place! Billy is love, Billy is life.
Erigorn - Erik Iha recorded almost all his parts on Siamese Dream. It took him hundreds of takes but he did it. Also on Machina. Iha is an amazing guitarist. All those little riffy fills are Iha. Corgan molded him indeed but he totally owns his shit. Iha is an amazing guitarist!
Sorry, but on MCIS, for the most part, all members, including D'arcy, recorded their own parts. Watch the 666 tape, specifically Jimmy and her rehearsing Zero, then listen to the album version. It's almost identical.
I don't know who ISIS is but i see 3 names that are similar. Celestial which is their album title and Billy has a song called The Celestials. Umm big deal and of course it's different. They have another album called Panopticon and Billy has a song called Panopticon. Umm big deal. They have an album called Oceanic and this album is called Oceania which is different as well. Bjork has a song called Oceania. Looked at all songs titles and none are the same. 3 things that are different. Great album!
Why do people dislike this album? It's got everything I love. Billy Corgan, a progressive element (the drummer adds that) some soft stuff, even those exotic keyboards. Maybe it's cuz Billy is the only original member? That doesn't bother me...I always believed HE was SP to begin with. As much as James, Darcy and Matt contributed, he has always kept it afloat. And this album makes me happy he is keeping the name and music alive and well!!!!!
I'll tell you why. Many fans don't feel good with theirselves if thet don't hate the last album of their favourite band. In a few years, Oceania will be remembered as one of the greatest Smashing albums right next to Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, I'm sure.
Alvaro Perez Santolaria I gotta disagree. I just didn't get Oceania. It wasn't terrible by any means but a far cry from, say, Adore or Machina. Zeitgeist was simply bad (just my opinion). That's not to say these albums don't have great individual moments. The lack of original members never bothered me, Billy was always the Smashing Pumpkins. I am looking forward to Monuments.
Oceania was amazing, I think the songwriting is excellent. It's one of Billys best albums I think certain people may not understand it because the songs aren't filled with grungy distortion, I'd bet if he had at least 5 heavy rockers more people would of loved it, plus I'm think certain pumpkin fans just don't like synths...oh well their loss for being closed minded.
Billy sounds like he a great night's sleep on this album. God I love the SP. I fucking love them. All records, all members. Thank you, Bill. You're music is a breath of fresh air in this dome of shit music we live in.
The greatest thing they have ever produced ... thus far. Maybe the fan base isn't there anymore. Who knows. But still the best thing they've ever done.
had this song been on Mellon Collie it would be a classic still performed. Yet it got lost during a time SP fans were distracted. Kind of nice to have this hidden gem too.
Yeah and he continues to reinvent himself. "Oceania" is sooo chuck full of brilliantly complex arrangements and fresh approaches to every aspec of songwriting and composition. I particularly love these intros and other parts in the songs where instead of giving your the full arrangement right away he lets each instrument come in one at a time. At first you go hmmm what is this? and then you go Ohhhh I seee :) Genius! :) Billy rules so does Smashing PUmpkins. Can't wait to see them this tour!
I think the critiquing of this album, and of Billy's life is exactly what this song is about. It's people judging him for not pleasing everyone and doing what he wants, and that he is good person, full of love. My favorite song on the album.
I don't know what to say about this album...I heard it just a few weeks ago, just the day before I went back to school, and this music has supported me for so many years...I'm just at a loss for words...such a wonderful and melodic set of tunes by Billy and the gang.
That young drummer did the job for them and I'm a bit impressed with his drumming. It is good creation. As a long time drummer, I can say that it 's not necessarily easy to play a lot of the stuff I hear from him.
I just listened to this album for the first time, somehow missing it in Pumpkins line-up of albums. Really digging the album. It's Pumpkins but you can tell Billy is trying to add new elements while keeping that Pumpkins sound, and I think he did a great job. The new drummer playing very much in style to Jimmy. Yeah, two thumbs up, its a good album, though a couple songs get a little weird, I just expect that anymore with a Pumpkins album.
without a doubt one of the best and most cohesive albums i have heard for years. It feels like a journey as any great album should, each listen get better and more meaningful....they may be in a different guise but without a doubt the Pumpkins are back...and Amen to that ;)
Straight up man! Guess which album was great. "Machina of the gods". Where are the fans that listen to every album in order these days? No one else has the musical context of the band. Oh and Gish is always gonna have a special place in my heart!
Yeah and I really loove the running order. Maybe the best ever for a Pumpkins album. I mean you got Quasar kicking it off, that song is money. This tune here Panopticon ( SO MONEY) to complete the 1 2 punch. Celestials at 3 MONEY, Violet Rays MONEY, My Love is Winter MONEY .. that is "Oceania" for ya.. love it more with each listen!
ya I can agree to that. I guess saying james and d'arcy brought something to the table is just my own personal nostalgia kicking in. lol I still stand by my thought that if billy started with the new members of the band I still think there would've been the same growing pains. we can also agree that SP was a pretty epic dramatic roller coaster ride :)
i cn them 26/6/12 this song rocked i also cn them on zeitgeist tour at a v fest and this last gig felt like the old pumpkins i luv this album billy is back at his best
I don't think there's much perspective in what you say. The old members were all young and had growing pains together. the new members look up to and respect billy for what he's done and been through. you can't deny that the original members brought a lot to SP even if Billy did most of the music and writing himself. I do agree that billy seems happier than he's ever been (according to interviews that is)
The only person from the old days I could ever say brought a lot was Jimmy. They were a Cure-like band but his drumming brought a new level of heaviness to them. Without him, they might have been a different band altogether. Not to mention that, like Billy, the man is a musical genius, and very talented. James and D'Arcy may as well have been hired help.
and I love people like you that always spew negativity around.. There are many fans of SP and many fans of Cat Power.. Only reason I said that about Cat Power is to prove that people like you need to keep quiet. I dont hate Cat Power. If you don't like something move along. If you can do better, do it.
I've found it's that way with a lot of Pumpkins music. I think, with nearly every one of their albums, I've thought at first, "What the hell did I just buy?" The same with individual songs. I used to skip over songs like "Muzzle" and "Untitled" before I realized how great they are.
The Panopticon is a type of institutional building designed by English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the late eighteenth century. Pretty sure Billy is pretty into philosophy, etc, doesn't necessarily mean he's ripping off Isis lyrics. They could just be kinda into the same vein.
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This is by far their most underrated album. Every song is fantastic.
everytime you have a teen boy drummer accepted by a known band like Smashing, composed of 40-45yo adults (at the time) yeah, it is kinda fantastic :-)
That would be Zeitgeist (although only the first six tracks are good)
I think it should be a musical crime that this album wasn't a massive success..This albums song writing and emotional potency is the best billys made since the 90s
This is the the best Pumpkins album, hands down.
NosferatuNite
I loved Machina though...
It is a success it's just times change
Amen
It has all the albums in one record!!
It seems many people are discovering this album now, long after it came out. I am glad to see it getting some love. I was able to see this entire album played on their Oceania tour in 2012. Good times.
Same! Such an amazing show and record 🙏
So apparently the guitar he used on this recording was also used to record Mayonaise and he also wrote 1979 on it, but didn’t use it to record the album version. It’s a Teisco Kimberly Apollo II guitar, similar to James Iha’s Teisco ET-230 guitar on the Rocket video and the Pisces Iscariot band photo.
This is easily in the Top 40 all-time Pumpkins songs
This song is heroic. So is Billy Corgan.
i'm so glad they're bringing this one back. oceania is an excellent record, makes you think just how much better it would've been with JC and James
Such a fun song. Drummer is going nuts, bass is dinging all around, and guitars are just singing. Love it.
How could this have not been a huge hit? To me one of their best!
'Don't make me supper!'
- The Smashing Pumpkins
When Biily is on form he's still one of the best of all time!
Revisiting Oceania now I have to say Panopticon, Pinwheels, and Oceania are the classic songs to emerge from this record. great songs!
Quasar is quite good too.
Pale Horse gets me every time.
Celestials and Wildflower too
The Chimera too. That song rips.
Rise! Love is here
Oh don't make me wonder
Life's never clear where choice is a gift
To use and abuse
To build on proof
Oh don't make me suffer
Birds find the wind and wing
Rest in the shells I've desinged
Run through the fields I've denied
And stroll upon the years I'm alive
There's a sun that shines in
There's a world that stares out at me
And all I refuse to please
Breathe! Love is air
Oh don't make me suffer
To dash debonair where chaste is the wish
To bust with pain
A heart goes blank
Oh don't make me wonder
To ask on behalf of you
Of you, where are you?
Where are you in you?
There's a sun that shines in
There's a world that stares out at me
And all I refuse to please
There's a sun that shines in
There's a world that stares out at me
And all I refuse
And all I'd ever use in me
There's a sun that shines in me
There's a sun that shines
There's a sun that shines in me
You could produce a video to this song (the creation of Adam) if you know anything about ROME...or don't you?
Thanks for the lyrics... Really appreciated.
This album took me waay longer to discover than it should've. Don't get me wrong, I loved the og line-up but the fact that this is still a banging sound just reiterates how amazing Billy Corgan is. Not that it's a surprise to anyone but the Pumpkins would be nothing without him.
Most of the people who are bitching about Oceania know as much about Smashing Pumpkins as they do about Genomic mapping. They own Rotten Apples, a pirated copy of Mellon Collie and Siamese Dream.
2:14-3:40 Supreme happiness :)
Billy has to stay depressed 99% of the time to reach that level of happiness once in a while and record it
I feel like this song came into my life at just the right time... Thank you Billy Corgan for always believing in yourself. "There's a sun that shines in you!"
Damn, man. This song is epic and huge. The Pumpkins and great music are back.
This is, without a doubt, their best album in YEARS. Great lyrics (as per usual), each song has its own beautiful quality, and there's always a kind of magical, oneiric quality in Billy's voice (for the most part, especially on this album, etc.). A lot of people do not have poetry running through their veins, so they cannot even remotely grasp the insight of such an Imaginative gloriousness. This album is perfect after reading Gaston Bachelard's "The Poetics of Space." Bravo and then some!
This gets better and better
This song is just so beautiful...the modal progression just sounds so hopeful...BIlly's voice just sounds perfect, the guitars soar, the drums stomp like no tomorrow...i'm sure this would just fill a stadium...
This song is amazing! The seamless transitions, song structure, melody and lyrics really make this song. Plus it has a tinge of Mellon Collie\Siamese Dream feel to it.
I saw them live in Toronto two weeks ago ❤🎉
This song is a fucking banger.
When I was first listening to Oceania in it's entirety, I didn't really know what to expect. But when I got to about 3:25 on this song, the music gave me an incredible feeling and a smile on my face that wouldn't go away. I'm going to listen to this album for many years to come. Thank you, Billy.
Billy just keeps coming up with all these amazing riffs and melodies. Glad to see that 20 years later the band still rocks!
melody maker
It's such a hopeful track. where was this when I was a depressed teenager? lol
My favorite of the album
This song is EXACTLY what I needed right now.
I think this album quickly became my all-time fav Smashing album. It's just brutal. Beautiful!
This is amazing so many feelings in one song.
This needs to be performed live again with JC
agree, I'd lose it
First time I've ever heard this song. It might be new, but it's in the vein of all the most classic Smashing Pumpkins. Love this.
Darcy did shit for SP, when I see people complain that SP is "gone" since all the members left, remember who recorded all the tracks and wrote all the songs in the first place! Billy is love, Billy is life.
Jimmy was an amazing drummer.
Erigorn - Erik Iha recorded almost all his parts on Siamese Dream. It took him hundreds of takes but he did it. Also on Machina. Iha is an amazing guitarist. All those little riffy fills are Iha. Corgan molded him indeed but he totally owns his shit. Iha is an amazing guitarist!
Untrue Jaymie. Billy alone played on SD.
Jayme Theis It was all billy on the first two albums for the guitar and bass work
Sorry, but on MCIS, for the most part, all members, including D'arcy, recorded their own parts. Watch the 666 tape, specifically Jimmy and her rehearsing Zero, then listen to the album version. It's almost identical.
I don't know who ISIS is but i see 3 names that are similar. Celestial which is their album title and Billy has a song called The Celestials. Umm big deal and of course it's different. They have another album called Panopticon and Billy has a song called Panopticon. Umm big deal. They have an album called Oceanic and this album is called Oceania which is different as well. Bjork has a song called Oceania. Looked at all songs titles and none are the same. 3 things that are different. Great album!
Best SP song
Why do people dislike this album? It's got everything I love. Billy Corgan, a progressive element (the drummer adds that) some soft stuff, even those exotic keyboards. Maybe it's cuz Billy is the only original member? That doesn't bother me...I always believed HE was SP to begin with. As much as James, Darcy and Matt contributed, he has always kept it afloat. And this album makes me happy he is keeping the name and music alive and well!!!!!
It sounds bitchin' on this vinyl copy too.
If old school pumpkins fans some how don't like this then it's because they are not right in the cranium kind of sad
I'll tell you why.
Many fans don't feel good with theirselves if thet don't hate the last album of their favourite band. In a few years, Oceania will be remembered as one of the greatest Smashing albums right next to Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, I'm sure.
Alvaro Perez Santolaria I gotta disagree. I just didn't get Oceania. It wasn't terrible by any means but a far cry from, say, Adore or Machina. Zeitgeist was simply bad (just my opinion). That's not to say these albums don't have great individual moments. The lack of original members never bothered me, Billy was always the Smashing Pumpkins. I am looking forward to Monuments.
Oceania was amazing, I think the songwriting is excellent. It's one of Billys best albums I think certain people may not understand it because the songs aren't filled with grungy distortion, I'd bet if he had at least 5 heavy rockers more people would of loved it, plus I'm think certain pumpkin fans just don't like synths...oh well their loss for being closed minded.
this album is fantastic,I never was interested in it until i saw the concert from NY in 3-D and now love it...
I went to the tour, they opened in México City, it was fantastic, a dream!
This is my current fave from the album!
Billy sounds like he a great night's sleep on this album. God I love the SP. I fucking love them. All records, all members. Thank you, Bill. You're music is a breath of fresh air in this dome of shit music we live in.
Making album after album after album before it's time since 1998
Im an oldschooler 'anything after Machina is out' camp but i have to say ive a lot of time for this record.
Amazing drumming
Best sp song of the new era.
This song is a master piece!!!
I love this song so much, I wish it was played more! Would love to hear an acoustic version.
Absolutely my fav song in this album..But this album is Marvelous!!!
The greatest thing they have ever produced ... thus far. Maybe the fan base isn't there anymore. Who knows. But still the best thing they've ever done.
had this song been on Mellon Collie it would be a classic still performed. Yet it got lost during a time SP fans were distracted. Kind of nice to have this hidden gem too.
Wow - just found this.. fantastic!!
Love this song, very underrated album that reminds me of high school. Hell all of Smashing Pumpkins reminds me of high school 😁
Just an incredible album!
Fuckin' amazing music!
This song drags me back to the 90's so easily..
Yeah and he continues to reinvent himself. "Oceania" is sooo chuck full of brilliantly complex arrangements and fresh approaches to every aspec of songwriting and composition. I particularly love these intros and other parts in the songs where instead of giving your the full arrangement right away he lets each instrument come in one at a time. At first you go hmmm what is this? and then you go Ohhhh I seee :) Genius! :) Billy rules so does Smashing PUmpkins. Can't wait to see them this tour!
I think the critiquing of this album, and of Billy's life is exactly what this song is about. It's people judging him for not pleasing everyone and doing what he wants, and that he is good person, full of love. My favorite song on the album.
LOVE THIS TRACK!!
mike byrne. wow. saw them live on this tour. he blew everyone away.
my all time favorite
I don't know what to say about this album...I heard it just a few weeks ago, just the day before I went back to school, and this music has supported me for so many years...I'm just at a loss for words...such a wonderful and melodic set of tunes by Billy and the gang.
A positive Billy something we all SP fans need I think
Thank you for posting the studio version! Much love
That young drummer did the job for them and I'm a bit impressed with his drumming. It is good creation. As a long time drummer, I can say that it 's not necessarily easy to play a lot of the stuff I hear from him.
one of their best , and a great new-ish sound . exciting to think of what's ahead.
I just listened to this album for the first time, somehow missing it in Pumpkins line-up of albums. Really digging the album. It's Pumpkins but you can tell Billy is trying to add new elements while keeping that Pumpkins sound, and I think he did a great job. The new drummer playing very much in style to Jimmy. Yeah, two thumbs up, its a good album, though a couple songs get a little weird, I just expect that anymore with a Pumpkins album.
without a doubt one of the best and most cohesive albums i have heard for years. It feels like a journey as any great album should, each listen get better and more meaningful....they may be in a different guise but without a doubt the Pumpkins are back...and Amen to that ;)
I would love to hear this live.
So happy to be alive right now.
Does this sentiment still hold a year later?
i love the guitar harmanys
I was just listening to "Just Another Day" by Oingo Boingo and I can hear the DNA of that song in this one. :)
this album just gets stronger and stronger with each listen.
Straight up man! Guess which album was great. "Machina of the gods". Where are the fans that listen to every album in order these days? No one else has the musical context of the band. Oh and Gish is always gonna have a special place in my heart!
Love this song!
Best Pumpkins material in nearly a decade
Mike byrn got the chops... he is like mini jimmy..
GREAT SONG...GREAT RETURN...
Yeah and I really loove the running order. Maybe the best ever for a Pumpkins album. I mean you got Quasar kicking it off, that song is money. This tune here Panopticon ( SO MONEY) to complete the 1 2 punch. Celestials at 3 MONEY, Violet Rays MONEY, My Love is Winter MONEY .. that is "Oceania" for ya.. love it more with each listen!
I'm a fairly new fan and own Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream, Gish, Adore and Zeitgeist and I would honestly put this record among their finest work.
ya I can agree to that. I guess saying james and d'arcy brought something to the table is just my own personal nostalgia kicking in. lol I still stand by my thought that if billy started with the new members of the band I still think there would've been the same growing pains. we can also agree that SP was a pretty epic dramatic roller coaster ride :)
I'm really impressed with your babble. You have inspired me to be a better person.
Thanks Billy, I appreciate you being famous and not letting that effect the way you make music.
i cn them 26/6/12 this song rocked i also cn them on zeitgeist tour at a v fest and this last gig felt like the old pumpkins i luv this album billy is back at his best
Pretty good, I don't really like much of the pumpkins stuff past 92 but this is actually really good, i like the new direction
I don't think there's much perspective in what you say. The old members were all young and had growing pains together. the new members look up to and respect billy for what he's done and been through. you can't deny that the original members brought a lot to SP even if Billy did most of the music and writing himself. I do agree that billy seems happier than he's ever been (according to interviews that is)
progrock power rock! Love it. This is beyond...
I love this song :) just like the rest of the album!
Welcome to a new era of awesome music
The only person from the old days I could ever say brought a lot was Jimmy. They were a Cure-like band but his drumming brought a new level of heaviness to them. Without him, they might have been a different band altogether. Not to mention that, like Billy, the man is a musical genius, and very talented. James and D'Arcy may as well have been hired help.
All of this album is excellent and I love it.
they are back! this's what i wanna hear for along time ago! great oceania...
and I love people like you that always spew negativity around.. There are many fans of SP and many fans of Cat Power.. Only reason I said that about Cat Power is to prove that people like you need to keep quiet. I dont hate Cat Power. If you don't like something move along. If you can do better, do it.
I've found it's that way with a lot of Pumpkins music. I think, with nearly every one of their albums, I've thought at first, "What the hell did I just buy?" The same with individual songs. I used to skip over songs like "Muzzle" and "Untitled" before I realized how great they are.
The Panopticon is a type of institutional building designed by English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the late eighteenth century. Pretty sure Billy is pretty into philosophy, etc, doesn't necessarily mean he's ripping off Isis lyrics. They could just be kinda into the same vein.
This is excellent thanks for the listen!
I love 1:30 to 1:45, i just love the guitar sound :) but the whole song is freaken awesome
Just awesome
Such a great song! Welcome back S.P.!
this is true music
rest in the shells ive designed>>>>>>>> AMAZING................ This Is my FAV song EVER!!!
timing
It took me a bit to warm up to it, but this turned out to be a pretty good album. certainly the best to come out of the "new" pumpkins.
one of my favorites.
seriously dude this album kicks ass
******* Brilliant album !!!!!!