Germany's Stolen Super Ships - The Evolution of Ocean Liners | Documentary Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- In 1913 a new ocean liner was introduced that changed everything. SS Imperator was the brainchild of the ingenious German shipping official Albert Ballin. He envisaged a trio of ships that would tackle and beat the reigning ships of the era; Lusitania, Mauretania, Olympic and Titanic. The Cunard and White Star Line had proved difficult rivals to beat - but Ballin's plan would see the construction of three massive ships, the largest passenger liners ever built in Germany. Imperator was followed quickly by Vaterland, both designed to be like the Ritz hotel at sea; but the first world war would end the dream. Imperator and Vaterland were confiscated by the allies, becoming Cunard's RMS Berengaria and United States Lines' SS Leviathan while the third, unfished sister Bismarck went to White Star Line and became RMS Majestic. It's an epic tale of hope, loss and rebirth.
Written by: Sarah Brenneman and Michael Brady
Animated by: Jack Gibson
Ballin trio ships by Colin W
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I love your videos, but what about the SS Ypiranga,? that was a ship with a very interesting history
Anxious for the next chapter hoping to show Paris, Ile De France, Augustus, Columbus, Bremen and finally my favorite liner: Rex, the perfect mix of modern and elegant exterior design with palacial classical interiors
When can we be expecting part 4? Eagerly awaiting..
Why don’t I get a documentary
Technically the oceanic three would be bigger if it was finished
It's storytelling like this is why I absolutely LOVE this channel! I'm an aviation enthusiast, but I'm beginning to really have a soft spot for historic oceanliners. Kudos to you Mike and everyone involved in the making of this incredible documentary. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I found this channel through aviation too! I'm leaning more towards ocean liner content lately. Somehow a ship on the ocean is more whimsical than a magic flying bus to me 😂
I’m a secret airplane nerd! Working on a video about the Lockheed Constellation over at the new channel Airliner Designs 😎
@@OceanlinerDesigns Ohhhhh! ... Stop it, I'm melting 😍
@@OceanlinerDesigns I grew up around airliners, having parents that worked in the airline industry. Thanks for the heads up on the new channel, just subscribed. Looking forward to the story of the "Connie" as told by our friend Mike Brady 😀.
@@OceanlinerDesigns No way!! I'm so looking forward to the new Airliner videos.
I had no idea that Albert Ballin came-up with the concept of cruising, which, in the long-term, effectively makes him the saviour of the ocean liner after jet air travel killed-off their previous role in the 1960's. Ballin is so poorly remembered now, but is clearly a visionary who was decades ahead of his time. He deserves to get more attention than he does.
I love that his last name is 'Ballin' 😎
He is well known in Germany😊
The way Jet air travel, especially related to food and lack of leg space ( which in the 1960s was not the case ) is now I'm sure the ocean liner role might return in some scale
@@DodgyDaveGTX Albert Ballin green FN
It never could've lasted, jets killing cruises, at least, I dont think so. Flying, it's fast, not generally considered "leisurely" especially on big commercial flights with a whole bunch of other people's farts and armpits, y'know, RIGHT there intermingling with the air whistling up your nostrils. Ships, tho? Comfort. Privacy. Companionship when you want it, private rooms when you don't. Sure, jets killed the transportation of people side, but not the leisure cruise side. Now cruise ships are bigger than ever, and I hope to one day go on one....
I’m glad someone finally talked about Ballin. He was one of the most visionary and genius businessmen of the 20th century, and it’s sad that he died only a few days before the war that he hated so much ended
Thank you very much for highlighting the moving history of these German super liners. The Imperator Class is often overlooked a bit, but cannot be forgotten for their important roles in the 20s. The Vaterland until this day is the biggest ship to ever wave the German flag, so she definitely was impressive. It's always a bit sad to see that the three ships never made it into commercial service as a German trio. 🚢
Ocean liners look so much better than modern ships and cruises
Maybe, but how do the accommodations and amenities of either one compare?
yeah, ocean liners look like a wedge of cheese, while modern cruise ships look like some child art
agreed
@@nursestoyland Their interiors are far more luxurious than you think, they’re not just what you call ‘Child Art’ they were designed more complicated than you think.
@@ChickenUltraPro i mean the exterior, sorry i didnt mention that
As a German ship fan, I am very pleased to see such a great and detailed video about these ships, because the German oceanliners of that time usually don't gain so much attention, even in the community. Would be great to see more videos the German oceanliner history. Especially a video about the Wilhelm Gustloff desaster would be interesting and a great addition to the videos about the loss of Britannic or Empress of Ireland
As an American, I had never thought of Germany being a sea fairing nation. I knew, of course, of its Naval ships, but didn't know about its civilian ships. I don't know why I didn't realize that Germany was an important player in ship building. I am 82, so it is good to learn something new. This was a very informative video. I only recently discovered this channel, and I am glad I did.
I'm part German and happy to learn more about the positives Germany has contributed. 😊
It never occurred to me just how similar they look, they really just added some paint on top of it and called it a day.
if WW1 never happened i would like to see how they would have compete with the likes of ss france olympic britannic.
The vaterland and Bismarck virtually identical. They were both quite different at least internally to the imperator.
Except Vaterland and Bismarck are almost identical. Imperator was different (design of the front superstructure where the bridge and wheelhouse is).
@@zeddeka Makes sense. Imperator was the first of the trio and had some major flaws that needed resolving. These solutions were adapted to Vaterland and Bismarck as they were built, resulting in a quite different layout.
@@Intrusive_Thought176you are less than nothing
It was an absolute experience to watch through this incredible documentary series. I’ve been watching since 7,000 subs and your videos never lose their charm. Keep up the amazing work!
26:01 holy damn, hats off to the builders for taking a massive risk and actually testing their safety features! that would give me massive confidence in it's safety
@00:28 - note how the tugboats' names were 'scratched' out. This was footage altered to make it seem like the Titanic was departing Southampton instead of a clip of the Olympic in New York...
A fantastic look at Ballin's magnificent trio. Great work!
Thanks BoB!
BoB can you do a video on Rms Majestic 2 or Adriatic 2
As usual, great quality content. Hoping you will feature the Red Cross ship 'Vega' which saved the populations of the British Channel Islands of Guernsey and Jersey from starvation whilst under WW2 german occupation.
Wow, I had just finished watching the other two yesterday, and I was wondering when the next would come. The boat people have been getting hugh quality video after high quality video, from you, Big Old Boats, and Part Time Explorer. This is adding to the list of great documentaries being released in November! Can’t wait to finish it!
Edit: Just finished, and it exceeds the standard set by the first two parts! Can’t wait for part four!
I CALLED IT! I CALLED IT! Yes!!!! Thank you Mike! God bless you man! The Ballin trio are my favorite ocean liners ever, hearing you talk about them in detail and seeing them animated is amazing!
@@Intrusive_Thought176 Yeah I bet you wish. You live up to your username.
Haha, glad you liked the video!
The race for ever greater ocean liners is a brilliant example of why war isn't necessary for technological progress. Only competition is needed, there is no need for spilling blood.
War is bad but fighter jets and bombers are pretty fucking cool, though.
What if the liners' competition was a byproduct of the greater nationalism fueled competition between major powers? No war, no blood spilled*, but no liners.
*(Titanic would have a word)
One can hear so much on the British Super Liners that it really was refreshing to hear about Germans Super Liners. This video taught me so much about some amazing fears of German Engineering at the time. In another world these 3 served together and the world got to enjoy them as such. At least they got to serve for their intended purpose even if under different flags. Thank you Mike Brady as always.
Albert Ballin was a great personality in our country. Sadly, to this day his achievements are hardly given due recognition in Germany. There is only one ugly parking lot in Cuxhafen that was named after this man, while really dubious personalities are honored in many streets and squares. This is sad and undignified!
I wonder what the ocean liner race would have been if Rudolf Diesel had joined their effort
Cuxhaven,)
Sorry, but everyone is so much about being accurate on this channel.
Rudolf Diesel - interesting figure who vanished over the English Channel = Ärmelkanal.
Living in the town where he was very active and where MAN = Maschinenwerke Augsburg Nürnberg has its origins.
Such engines are to be found worldwide and saw some in operation on nowadays' cruise ships.
@@annelbeab8124 Ich hab in einer Dokumentation über den nach ihm benannten Motor gehört er sei während einer Kanalüberfahrt verschwunden und wurde später als Leichnam geborgen.
I heard in a documentary about the engine named after him that he disappeared during a canal crossing and was later recovered as a corpse.
One of the most thoroughly entertaining and informative documentary series that I have ever seen! Amazing job, these documentaries truly honor the German trio of ocean liners.
Thanks! Glad you liked the series! 🌊
Fascinating video! The Ballin Trio have interested me (along with later German ships such as Europa and Bremen) ever since i read William H Miller's book 'German Ocean Liners of the 20th Century' as a teen. German yards produced some fantastic vessels in the first half of the century, but many met tragic ends (see: MV Wilhelm Gustloff) and have been largely forgotten even by the enthusiast community.
Imperator was originally planned to be called Europa. But the Kaiser took such an interest in the ship that they changed the name (Imperator means "emperor" in Latin).
Neat. It's such a cool word.
I have a special place in my heart for the Olympic class ships, but the interiors of these were definitely grander and airier. There are things I like about both. I think the exterior/profile of the Olympic/Titanic, however, are much more graceful.
Really cool video!
Fantastic production quality.
The storytelling is a joy.
I've been enjoying your offerings.
Thank you!
If only the first world war was deemed unnecessary, who knows what great heights our western world would have reached. Again a beautiful made documentary, with splendid narration. I'm so happy you're creating these videos, bringing the past back to life and available to those who didn't live to experience it. Thank you.
Yeah but as horrible as this sounds if WW1 didn’t happen and WW2 for that matter then technology wouldn’t have advanced anywhere near as quickly as it did, take the plane for instance before the war it was simply a novelty.. They were insane drivers of development, engineering, invention and evolution out of necessity they sped the whole process up immeasurably.
The Kaiser was itching to do something...someone once posited, jokingly, that if his yacht had won a few more races beating his royal relatives we might have avoided WWI. He was a childishly petty and vain man.
Somehow through Mike's storytelling abilities in depicting these incredible Ocean Liners, symbols of absolute grandeur and splendor of their time. i can't help but feel a sense of Nostalgia for an Empire in its hayday, at the height of its power and prestige, of an era long gone. Almost wistfully unaware of the great tragedy to come.
Germany was not a nation that needed to die...Germany was a Great Power, very much an equal of the British Empire and perhaps even can be considered one of the Greatest Nations on Earth, an Economic, Cultural and Scientific superpower of its time.
They may have been our rival...But they did not need to be our enemy.
I can't help but feel a sense of longing and regret for a nation of such great potential. especially when what came after was so much worse.
... and indeed how much worse things could get.
Perhaps then Germany's story will be seen as one of the greatest tragedies of our time i think...A story of lost potential, A people whose culture and prestige went from one of its greatest moments of achievement...to one of the very lowest in the history of humanity in the span of little over 20 years.
Perhaps its a lesson hard learned, of how very wrong things can go so quickly. when we let our guard down too much, when we become blissfully unaware of the dangers the world faces. Consign ourselves to the status quo and let our ignorance get the better of us. When history has taught us that you can never take anything for granted.
If History has taught us anything, is that Peace and Prosperity is Hard fought, we must never take that for granted.
I guess the lesson we can take is,
Our way of life is not for granted, the peace and stability we enjoy today is not a given, it is hard fought and hard maintained. And we must never let ourselves be fooled into believing otherwise. It is humanity alone in charge of its own destiny, ultimately we get to choose the fate of our species, be it for better of for worse.
Perhaps then we should cherish and preserve the good, however little there may be no matter the cost.
I am reminded of the famous words by Carl Sagan: "In this Vast universe, there is no indication that help is coming from elsewhere, Therefore it is our responsibility to deal more kindly to one another and to cherish and protect the one home we ever had..."
Perhaps had we learned to cherish the great fortune and peace we had...we may have been more careful with it. And maybe we may well have seen Germany rise to New heights as the pinnacle of western civilization.
@@ericalbanyit was the British how made it a world war
& it was Serbia who started the war
Wilhelm ii did nothing wrong
@@livethefuture2492
Germany was never the equal of the British Empire and that was the problem. The Kaiser was jealous of his cousin, George V. You frequently get rivalries in families, where one branch feels hard done by, but most don’t lead to millions of deaths.
something not often told about the Leviathan is her record of carrying troops from USA to France during WWI. In the spring of 1918 she carried thousands of troops. Troops were crammed into every possible nook and cranny on the ship for the days-long trip. Unfortunately, also crammed in was the H1C1 virus that was causing pneumonia epidemics back in the USA.
It travelled from the US to Europe not the other way round, as it seems.
Of the three ships in the trio, Majestic is my favorite. She is just so beautiful to look at. ^^
Great video and as a German speaker I did appreciate the EXCELLENT pronunciation. I forget but the motto of the Imperator under the eagle that was 100% perfect. And good job on Vaterland pronounced as Faterland and not Waterland. :)
The Industrial Steampunk Revolution started in the 1700's and ended in 1945.
Trying to figure out what gave a NEUTRAL country the right to seize a ship
Very well done Mike . So very proud of you and love the content of your awesome channel . Your attention to detail and professional presentation are awe inspiring . ✨️
Thank you so much, Mike, for creating this video. I'll share the link because once again one of your videos is so great.
Despite the three ships having had interesting careers, it is such a pity Ballin's dreams were shattered by the war. I think I shall go visit Mr Ballin's grave in the next days, it's not that far from my place.
Thank you once again, and keep up your work. Your channel is one of the best.
Ships and boats have always wigged me out. I was a recreational scuba diver some time ago, and seeing those hulls floating above me (and having to swim up to one after the dive) was horrible. Worth it for the underwater experience, but no fun on the way back.
To this day, I struggle whenever I see pictures of ships in dry dock, or even those excellent animations of liners in the sea. Just the thought of them coming at me … ack.
Yet strangely, I still watch this channel because the content is so well written and superbly documented. Keep going, and I will keep watching. Even if I have to look away every now and then.
Hi! This is called Submechnophobia and I have it, too!
@@Volkswagenitalia.I never knew that was a thing! Could be me. I get spooked by underwater wrecks too. Sunken vessels or aircraft … not nice.
@@AJC508 titanic wreck jumpscare
You've really outdone yourself with this video. Pity that by the 50s, these massive vessels would become obsolete.
Majestic by far looks the best , then the Leviathan, then the Berengaria. It’s the only one that looks good it it’s new livery, and I think it looks amazing, but not the other sisters.
I agree 100% with you
I think Berengaria looks quite good with red stacks but only in the intermediate phase before the changes that Cunard made to her lifeboat placement and the forecastle. The final version looks unbalanced
Thats true
Something that I think about a lot is that white star should have been given the Bismarck and Vaterland. While the United States line should have been given Columbus and Homeric. White star had lost titanic before the war and Britannic during the war. So they needed at least a third large ship to maintain their planned three ship service. While the United States line couldn’t offer a full service like that because they only had the leviathan. So it would have made more sense for white star to get the the two bigger ships and United States line to get the smaller ship. Especially since prohibition hit the USL hard and with a ship as big as the leviathan was nearly half empty. Having a smaller ship like Homeric would have not be as economically disastrous for USL.
Cunard did lose Lusitania and other smaller ships lost.
@@johnwalters4792 The Imperator was the compensation for the lose of the Lusitania.
Oceanliner history is fascinating.
How about the History of Home Video 📼 📀⁉️
History is always the most fascinating. Do you also like sailing?
Most excellent documentary I've ever seen... very, very well done! That's a lot coming from me since I have ADD and can't normally sit through long videos. Watched yours from start to finish.
History has always had a magical fascination for people. Do you also enjoy learning about history?
Thanks, Mike! This is my favorite class of liners. Something Jules Verne about them. You've done a beautiful job and gave Albert Ballin a bit of justice. Good on You!👍
Nothing fuels the fire of innovation quiet like the brotherly competition between the Brits and Germans, unfortunately that fire is not always Friendly.
was, not is
Dear Mike, before I found your channel I wasn't even thinking that I can be so fascinated by old ocean liners. Your documentaries are just marvelous.
Agreed!! My daughter has been teasing me for a week!!
Same. I've been a fan of Titanic because of her tragedy. But I never thought I'd be interested in other ships.
Interesting. The Imperator has almost been forgotten in Germany.
An era when such ships had personality and class. I can’t even imagine ascribing those terms to the monstrosities plying the waves today.
AGREED 👍🏼
It was stunning, I wish to see the interiors 3D animated too, Imperator is one of my favorite liners, Great job Mike
Please do a video on Germany's post war liners (Bremen and Europa)
Didnt the kaiser first see the Teutonic at Spithead Review and not H&W?
Yeah, so, how exactly were these ships "stolen"? Being confiscated as reparations is not theft.
There was another German ship that carried the name Bismarck. and was noted for it's massive size. however it was a famous and feared battleship that sailed during WWII up until it was sunk. which was no easy task because it was equipped with the largest guns of any battleship that sailed during WWII. which meant that any other battleship that could get close enough to it to hit it? would have been well within the range of it's massive guns. there was even a popular song that was written about it in the 1960s. by country music artist Johnny Horton.
It would have had long range guns, but they were so big they destroyed their own fire control system. Really sums up the German philosophy of the time.
@@silentdrew7636 Being able to destroy the pride of the Royal Navy, the HMS Hood with a single shot?
Is there going to be another part?
Nice job Mike. Fun little fact, at 33:24 the deck hand signals to the camera HOW MUCH IS BEER.
Sounds like Germany in the first half of the 20th century.
Aquitania: *1 foot longer than Emperator*
Germany: Screw you! See our giant eagle! WE OWN THE WORLD, BRITAIN!
Britain: Okay, Jeez.
Did 2 guys named, “Ballin’” and, “Memés”, respectively, build Germany’s largest ships of that time?
Seriously?
The interior design of Transatlantic ocean liners of that period never appealed to me... all of them are so over the top, fussy, and look backward to the 1700s for inspiration. What followed with the SS Ile de France of 1927 was far superior... with clean, modern, and elegant Art Deco interiors. The French ocean liners had the best aesthetics.
sorry to ask.... whens part 4 coming?
& also will there be a documentary on the ss great britain?:)
Well done Mike and Crew. Yet another masterpiece. Your'e narration, as always, is spot on. Thank you
The interiors of those ships were breathtaking. Imagine having all that fine furniture and accessories today? It would be worth a fortune.
It would be 😮😮
Superb. Thank you. Harry Houdini met and entertained Theodore Roosevelt about Imperator in 1914, so it's fascinating to learn about this ship itself.
Than you for your Hommage to the work of a great german shipbuilder: Albert Ballin. He was his time ahead and made a revolution with his "big three".
This channel keeps astounding me. The quality of content keeps increasing all the time. Truly impressive and my favourite channel on this platform. Bravo! 👏
The saddest part is what happened to the ship formerly known as the Vaterland. As War Reparations, she became the USS Leviathan.
Since the US passed the 19th amendment(Prohibition), the poor Leviathan was never profitable, she was a STRICTLY Dry ship.
With the decline of Immigrate Quotas in the USA. A financial boom of the ‘20’s, and the new cruising class of passengers, everyone mobbed her former sisters, Cunards Berengaria(formerly the Imparater) and White Stars RMS Majestic(formerly the Bismark) instead.
The USS Leviathan had the shortest career of the 3 beautiful sisters.
It wasn’t a “decline” in immigration quotas that led to the decline of the emigrant trade it was their imposition.
Only by a year or two. I believe they all ceased operation and were sold for breaking up within a three-year period.
Out of curiousity, how problematic were Berengaria and Majestic (in terms of their electrical fires, stability, hull cracking, etc.) in the early/mid-1930s compared to Mauretania and Olympic at the same time? I can see why the latter two went to the breakers first given their smaller size and less luxurious interiors, but it seems like by 1934/35 the Ballin sisters were perhaps in worse material condition.
What I wouldn't give to see a world where the First World War never happened, Titanic was the only casualty, and Cunard, White Star, and HAPAG all sailed their trios.
Could you imagine a world where Bismarck, Aquitania, and Britannic all raced one another?
Alas. Like the rest of the world, the First World War wrecked this, too.
Very beautiful for you to mention the human aspect. I hadn't really connected ships with the stories of hotels, but it makes perfect sense. Like a floating hotel, stories will happen.
Also, for the curious, Berengaria was the wife of Richard the Lionheart.
Another excellent video! This series is my favorite of yours, I think, and every new episode brings me joy! They're always so well-done and will, I believe, stand the test of time!
If anyone knows the title and composer of the music that starts at 24:16, please let me know!
Now that you've done this fine video on the three Ballin sisters, you must turn your attention to the most influential, nay, the greatest passenger liner service of them all! I am, referring of course: to the Collins Line...
Incredible video along with the series itself. I'm a Ship geek as well and enjoyed watching this.
I do have 2 questions tho: 1. Is there going to be a continuation to this series to give it a proper end because there's still the Queen Mary, Bremen, SS United States etc, or is this the end of the series? 2. Would you consider there to possibly be an "Evolution of Cruise liners" as a sequel series? Once again awesome video and i was just wondering about it .🙂
Totally fascinating from beginning to end. I'd often wondered about the German trio, and now you've answered it in wonderful detail, Mike. Flawed masterpieces. I wonder whatever happened to those outrageous bronze eagles and ornamentation after the change of hands? Melted down, no doubt.
One story still waiting for your treatment is HMT Lancastria. When the time comes, I hope you accord it one of your "special " treatments!
Funny enough the eagle was removed by the Germans after the ship encountered a bad Atlantic storm that ripped the wings off, it was discretely removed in it entirely a week later
That bronze eagle was only on the Imperator, not on the other two ships. Accidentally during a violent storm on one of her Atlantic crossings, it broke off and never was replaced, luckily.
Fun fact: The "Imperator" was not referred to as "she," like other ships, but as "he" - "Der Imperator".
Maybe they switched depending on whether the name was directly addressed or not, I wonder. Kudos from Augsburg to ... Augsburg:)
@@annelbeab8124 No, this was the only ship that was given a male article, at the personal request of the Emperor.
Haha, Grüße zurück aus dem Stadtjägerviertel!
I think the Vaterland/Leviathan might be the most interesting oceanliner story in my opinion. For all fascinating stories of failure, there aren't many stories of a ship being built in one country, seized by another, mothballed, massively refurbished, etc.
Thanks for the spelling. I couldn't figure out it's Vaterland.
We no longer compete the way they did in the early 19th century. The competition for luxury, status and prestige; countries looking to outdo each other, National pride....
Amazing history lesson and well narrated. Thank you.
We certainly live in a different era...
Just imagine if WWI had just not happened, what kind of marvels of civilian engineering might have been born from this rivalry between Britain and Germany
Never occurred to me that German-British rivalry over ocean liners - and the German superiority that became evident by 1913 - could have played a role in the British decision to join the war plans of France and Russia. But great events can result from petty cause.
I think your analysis makes sense. Often a small trigger can lead to a larger conflict. What's your opinion on this?
You almost never hear these stories because of Germany losing the war! Also I appreciate that you pronounced the names correctly! 10/10 content as always
I have something I would like to send to you. Do you have a way to send fanmail? I have a photo I want to give you of the RMS majestic leaving new York to South Hampton in 1936
I am really interested on the document created by the Gibbs brothers analyzing The Leviathan, the 1024 pages long one, does someone knows where can i find the material or if it does exist? btw i really love the content you create, very well done, greetings from Italy!!!
They weren't stolen. They were more than fair war reparations.
Both Cunard and White Star suffered terrible losses to the U-Boats. Cunard lost 22 ships including Lusitania, while Britannic was the largest of 8 ships White Star lost.
Can you do an episode on the SS Bremen? My grandpa traveled on it to move from Berlin to the US in 1936 as a kid. He'll be turning this year.
Unbelievably efficient! These machines are true marvels of engineering.
They were not stolen. They were reparations for the German sinking of Lusitania, Britannic and other Alllied shipping by U-boats, then seen as unacceptable war crime machines because you could not see them or fight them fairly.
Yes
My question is; what did HAPAG have to do with the sinking of Lusitania etc.?
My question is why you think the ships were "stolen" @@OceanlinerDesigns
The Allies used submarines themselves though. And they kinda forced the Germans into forgoing the rules of cruiser warfare by employing Q-ships -> warships disguised as merchantmen. Also, the British placed Germany under blockade and I wouldn't soubt for a minute they would have opened fire on any German or even Neutral Liner approaching Hamburg or Bremen. The Germans reacted by halting all Civilian shipping.
@@richsw Because Ballin had resisted any demands by the German government to hand over his fleet to the war effort. He had his ships laid up in port and waited it out. HAPAG's German rival, North German Lloyd operating out of Bremen did hand over their fleet. But these ships were already showing their age at the time and therefore, were pretty uninteresting.
Still, HAPAG did everything they could to keep their ships out of any wartime use.
This was a fantastic episode! Just chock full of wonderful history. You are just amazing as both a guide and narrator. Thank you so much for this gorgeous content. 🚢
I have been aboard the Berengaria, aka Imperator as a very young boy, in 1939 she came to the Tyne to be scrapped, the public were invited to visit and purchase fittings, my parents bought some Lloyd Loom furniture.
In terms of ocean liner handover, how would you rewrite the treaty of Versailles?
Absolutely FANTASTIC video!
These three were the PEAK when it comes to beauty imo. In the 30s art deco were the rule and I absolutely HATE art deco lol.
Your channel is a true gift, thank you so much for making such amazing videos!
Humphrey Bogart served on Vaterland as a US navy Seaman. A fall in heavy weather, resulting in a badly cut lip which was poorly sutured, caused his trademark sneer.
Mike, you are the best in ship documenting! To think that my country was just forgotten (Despite the fact that I dislike the Kaiser.) you revived the churned out ships with actual history potential! Never stop being amazing! Always Remain yourself!
Long live Mike Brady!!!💖😊😎
"Imperator" was originally named "Europa", but Hapag renamed her, because the Kaiser asked them to.
I loved watching that video, Thanks! Although I must say you missed the opportunity to mention the legacy which Ballin already laid the ground for during WW1 which was the Ballin quartet that were very succesful during the 20s even being called the famous four
I don't care what anyone says, but the Imperator's figurehead is lovely
Excellent! Just curious if the British got the plans for Bismarck/Majestic from the Germans or if they, too, had to do it by hand. Either way I think it would be so odd to take over a ship where all controls are written in German
It seems that you have done some research on distant wheels. Do you also like sailing?
these German ocean liners are even cooler I wish they would still be used I hope they're used as museums like the Queen Mary.
Really great video. I dont know why, but the shipmodels look a bit like toys this time
Fantastic. Keep it up. I watched your channel from year zero.
I had a marine job for 20 years, but could not cope with sea sickness.
Gave up.
Great video. It’s often forgotten that Imperator and Bismarck were not “handed over” but rather purchased. They were awarded to the British Admiralty to cover war debts and then put up for sale. Cunard and White Star were the obvious candidates, being the only companies equipped to operate such ships, and purchased them with insurance monies from their lost liners. White Star had extra insurance money from Titanic and so also purchased Columbus.
Indeed. The use of the word "Stolen" in this clip's title is a bit of a dick move, I reckon.
Well, the treaty of Versailles wasn’t exactly ‘honest’ so I don’t think ‘stolen’ in the title is ‘a bit of a dick move’.
Whats up mike brady from oceanliner designs?
I'm loving this chronological series of documentaries, Going from the very Birth of Ocean liners to each of the Great Leaps Forward in Oceanliner design, culminating in the greatest ships of each of these Eras.
I'm loving this style of Documentary and i think these long form videos are he best way to truly tell the Story of the Ocean Liner as a whole.
Brilliant video Mike. Can't wait for the 1930s video
The words Imperator and Leviathan themselves has so much power and weight in them. For a ship to have both names is a wonder in itself.
Kaiser Whilhem Der Große I writes this with German keyboard
"Stolen" seems like a really weird way of looking at war reparations, but whatever...
I agree
Mike i am blown away by this im so glad you did the imperator class! i love these vessels they are incredible and i love you did more about them! thank you mike!
This had for me always been one of the most interesting stories about ocean liners. You have totally done it justice. A great piece of work.
Will the coming part be in part about the Deep water Diesel Liners, or will they be discussed at length in the Fifth installment?