River be dammed: Florida's forgotten river

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • An examination of the Kirkpatrick (Rodman) Dam and its impacts on the Ocklawaha River in Florida. Produced for River be dammed, a multimedia project investigating the Ocklawaha River and its relationship with the Kirkpatrick Dam. Released in 2014.
    Update (11/2019): With fond remembrance and thanks to Robin Lewis and Whitey Markle for their championing of the restoration of the Ocklawaha River. Their efforts and commitment to preserving Florida have sifted through the detritus in the deepest of swamps, flowed through the limestone in the bluest of springs and resonated amongst the blushing canopy of maple, the long-legged islands of pine, and the sprawling, buttressed limbs of oak and resurrection fern above our heads. May the wonder of wild spaces they set their hopes upon continue to inspire and push us all.
    Reported, filmed and edited by Matt Keene.
    Special thanks to Josh May for title design.
    Footage from "Florida's Canal Main Street," and photos of 'crusher-crawler' and 'land clearing' from Florida Memory Archive (www.floridamemo...).
    "Rodman Dam" used with permission of Lonesome Bert & the Skinny Lizards (www.lonesomeber...).

Комментарии • 477

  • @rayrobinett8126
    @rayrobinett8126 Год назад +57

    I'm an 83year old Florida resident. I remember this catastrophe well, an protested it. You wouldn't believe the animals that were drown when the Rodman damn went up. Animals & reptiles stranded in the tops of trees.
    It was horrifying to see. One of the most horrifying ( man made) thing I've seen.
    So glad to see this out ,for all too see.
    I love my state. Please take care of it & an not exploit her...

    • @jman6109
      @jman6109 Год назад +8

      Little late for Florida not being exploited unfortunately.😔

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +2

      Thank you for sharing and for watching!

  • @davidingram5965
    @davidingram5965 Год назад +42

    In the 1950s my grandfather took me fishing on the Ocklawaha. The water was clear and flowing. We even caught blue crabs as well, which probably are not there now, since they migrate into the Atlantic. I hope someday the river can flow naturally again.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +5

      Thank you for sharing!

  • @Oldsparkey
    @Oldsparkey Год назад +59

    The other mistake was draining the Everglades , people are Florida's waterways greatest destroyers. I have canoed and camped on the Ocklawaha many times and enjoyed every minute and can only imagine what it was like for the Seminoles when they used it. Folks forget that we do not own the land and water , the land and the water owns us.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching! My heartstrings snap everytime i visit the glades. Its a beautiful place that's faced a lot of hardships

    • @guesswho6946
      @guesswho6946 Год назад

      Foreign owned sugar beet growers were protected while the Everglades were sacrificed. Politicians lied and habitat died.

    • @jasonlacroix6083
      @jasonlacroix6083 Год назад +2

      We could create such a more harmonious world, knowing what we do today. Instead, we still believe that what we have is the best way.

  • @TheGoldeyFamily
    @TheGoldeyFamily Год назад +42

    What a great documentary. I live here in Ocala, and these people are speaking truth.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching!

  • @dalehilltopfarm
    @dalehilltopfarm 2 года назад +42

    I was in junior high school and lived on the backwaters of Dunnellon where the canal was destined to go through. My father was a lifelong naturalist who loved every inch of the waterways that crossed through central Florida to Inglis. He said many times that the politicians would destroy the natural habitat for thousands of birds and other wildlife. At that time, the state of Florida killed the natural grasses that were also a habitat for the fish and birds. Now, the waterways are filled with rotting grasses and silt. The world class fishing is gone forever. The flocks of ducks and coots along with herons are all but gone. Our grandchildren will never know the beauty that was found along the riverbanks in central Florida. What was once crystal-clear water is now murky and almost void of natural life. There is hope however if the people of Florida will take notice and action. Where there is a voice, people can make the changes necessary to make significant change.
    This is a powerful video documentary and I hope people will share it and do all we can together to allow the natural habits to recover.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  2 года назад +3

      Thank you for sharing your history and for watching!

    • @amygiles8614
      @amygiles8614 Год назад +3

      I grew up in ocala...moved there when i was 11 in 1984. Its changed so much.

    • @karmab4391
      @karmab4391 Год назад +1

      With Ocala becoming a distribution hub and the Roberts turning the area into a winter playground for rich horse people it's only going to get worse. They tried running a turnpike through the Rainbow and failed but they did manage to install a natural gas pipeline which runs parallel to it. It is no more than five miles from the head springs.

    • @freedomrings1420
      @freedomrings1420 Год назад +6

      Don't worry, your grandchildren would rather be playing video games and watching ticcrap on their cellphones.

    • @bodavis3308
      @bodavis3308 Год назад +1

      We used to deerhunt south of Eureka in the mid 60's.i remember coming back from overseas in 1968 and looking down from the airplane and seeing the canal. Nothing was mentioned about the first attempt to canal the river. Early in 1900s. There is proof of that on 301south of Ocala where the road splits. A wooded area has 2 concrete bridge abutments back from the road.

  • @lazaruslazuli6130
    @lazaruslazuli6130 Год назад +20

    This is not the only devastation the Army Corps of Engineers wreaked upon the State of Florida. They took a 102-mile winding river, the Kissimmee, and turned it into a 50-mile ditch.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @catman5546
      @catman5546 Год назад +3

      How about draining the swamps around Miami??

  • @openyaeyez
    @openyaeyez 3 года назад +42

    Great content. We need more awareness regarding our waters in Florida. If you’re reading this and are interested please see other videos about the springs and their degradation. Save the springs!

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  3 года назад +3

      Thank you! For more on the springs related to the Ocklawaha River, check out my other short film "Lost Springs"

  • @Bearlake1624
    @Bearlake1624 Год назад +7

    Lived in Fl. For 60 years never heard of this issue .glad the word is getting out …..good video!

  • @wendyrobertson-c6m
    @wendyrobertson-c6m Год назад +11

    The Army Corps of Engineers destroyed just about every natural water shed system in the name of water control. When US 41 was put in it damaged the natural drainage causing water to back up in Central Florida so dies and levees were done to manage the water. If they had just elevated US 41 to be 100% bridge they could have saved the thousands of miles of dies and levees, but that wouldn't have profited US Sugar at all. Big busines is always in the politicians pockets when it comes to things like the barge canal and the huge sugar cane fields south of Lake Okeechobee and all the dies and levees that were put in in the name of water control, which was more like drain the glades so big sugar can plant more bottom land. Follow the money. Ron DeSantis looks like a squeaky clean governor but just check out who his biggest campaign contributors are and how they profited from from many of the bills that have been passed during his term as governor. I believe our government has seriously gone off the rails with the line your pockets while holding a public appointed office.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Bridges allowing water to flow to all the glades and not just past ag and limited channels is needed, I agree.

  • @jman6109
    @jman6109 Год назад +24

    How can we organize the citizens of Florida to take action in getting this damn removed? I've lived in Melbourne for 30yrs, never even heard of this disaster before this video! Well done, this was a great eye-opener!!🙏

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching! Search for the group Free the Ocklawaha, they have the most current resources on the restoration efforts

    • @jayrod9979
      @jayrod9979 Год назад +5

      Get some shovels and dynamite...plenty of good old boys out there with the materials

    • @digitaldaydream420
      @digitaldaydream420 Год назад +5

      This is the story of EVERY waterway in florida. We live in a SWAMP. Your house was once a SWAMP. Every new house was SWAMP paved over. Where does all that water that the SWAMP percolated and filtered? Now full of pesticides and fertilizers, straight into the logoons and oceans and no one can figger out why shits all dying.

    • @ssmokinu
      @ssmokinu Год назад

      Save Rodman

    • @greghenner4978
      @greghenner4978 Год назад +1

      Just go down there with some dynamite and knock it down. Nobody is stopping anyone from doing that. Once it's done they won't build it back.

  • @deborahs2593
    @deborahs2593 Год назад +19

    This is fascinating and infuriating at once. I've lived in Florida over 40 years and as others said I've never heard about this. Thank you.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +3

      Thanks for watching!

    • @greghenner4978
      @greghenner4978 Год назад +1

      Im 45yo, I knew of Rodman dam since it's not far away but I didn't know about all this on the video. I always thought people crossed Florida at Lake Okeechobee. That sur is a lot of work, money spent and environmental issues just to cut 400-500 miles out of a trip.

  • @michaelmixon2479
    @michaelmixon2479 2 года назад +12

    Very good video! Love the song as well. It tells the true story of the canal!

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @paulskopic5844
    @paulskopic5844 Год назад +14

    LBJ was a RAT on so many levels.

  • @captsirl
    @captsirl Год назад +16

    Was born in Florida. Use to do overnight trips paddling down the Ocklawaha River. Beautiful. I left America 20 yes ago for a better world where the people come first not businesses.

  • @jlloyd423
    @jlloyd423 Год назад +7

    The Ocklawaha is a small piece of the overall hydrology in the region. If Moss Bluff, Rodman and all of the other water control structures are removed, the water from some of the most polluted lakes in Florida will free flow straight into the "restored" Ocklawaha, the St. Johns and ultimately, the Atlantic Ocean. Love it or hate it, the reservoir acts as a settling basin for this polluted water. While I wholeheartedly support the restoration of the natural river, the pollution upstream must be addressed first.

  • @Theoutdoorsydad
    @Theoutdoorsydad Год назад +7

    I fish the inglis barge canal every day... what a monstrosity!!! The fish bite is amazing here, I can only imagine what it would be like if left untouched...

  • @Caucasian187
    @Caucasian187 Год назад +8

    This land needs to be turned back into a swamp.. We all know what swamp really needs to be drained.

  • @Lockiel
    @Lockiel 4 года назад +48

    After biking hundreds of miles through the everglades I continue to discover more and more evidence of man's interference with our beautiful state's ecosystem :( Thank you for posting this content answers many questions.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  4 года назад +3

      Thanks for sharing. The Everglades is an amazing place to grasp our watery state, especially by bike, foot or paddle. Fortunately, the Ocklawaha is an easy fix... once it happens.

    • @sharonrimsza7960
      @sharonrimsza7960 2 года назад +1

      The Everglades and several rivers and streams in South Florida have been changed over and over. The Army Core of Engineers did as much as possible to screw up our natural waterways. And now we have monster snakes in the Everglades that do NOT belong there. I am a Floridian! I am 3rd generation born in the same town and my son is 4th generation Floridian. My family has seen a lot done to Florida over the generations. Of course, October 1971 Florida was the final straw for our state to no longer the same again.

    • @dherman0001
      @dherman0001 Год назад

      Like your own. Your own house. Hypocrite!

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад +2

      You biking there is interfering with it as well.

    • @dherman0001
      @dherman0001 Год назад

      @@mikepalmer1971 Countless microorganisms wiped out by his riding. He only cares about the shiny things. It's like the tree huggers telling foresters in Brazil not to harvest their crops. What about the grass the tree hugger mows in his own lawn? It's all perspective, scale, time. Get off the bike and in an airplane and you'll see that we're just fine.

  • @mikewazowski350
    @mikewazowski350 2 года назад +15

    Another river, like the Kissimmee river, which was ruined by the US Army Corps of Engineers. And how Lake Okeechobee which was also ruined, all in the name of the almighty dollar.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching! The Kissimmee is also a testament to the power of natural systems to recover.

    • @fredziffel3443
      @fredziffel3443 Год назад +1

      Yup... I had a fish camp home on the south side of Lake Kissimmee, for 20 years. After they built the Kissimmee river dam across the lower end on Highway 60, The government came in and took it all for pennies on the dollar, saying it was all now a floodplain. Entire communities of people were robbed of their property there as they rerouted the Kissimmee River creating real-estate farther south. All while ignoring already endangered wildlife all along the way to Okeechobee and beyond.

  • @ltdees2362
    @ltdees2362 Год назад +5

    I'm taken aback there are not hundreds of thousands of subscribers to this channel .. which could be writing letters to Governor Ron DeSantis office along with all Florida legislators demanding the
    Kirkpatrick-Rodman dam be breached, letting the Ocklawaha river run free and return to its natural beauty...The Kissimmee River was restored, so Governor, do the right thing .. Give us back our Ocklawaha river .. 💖

  • @DavidRodriguez-gd1su
    @DavidRodriguez-gd1su Год назад +3

    I live in this area and all the older people say that the river use to be clear and beautiful. That damn needs to be removed and restore the area.

  • @jeffreyhanshawsr4884
    @jeffreyhanshawsr4884 Год назад +3

    BEING A HEAVY CONSTRUCTION
    WORKER AND A NATIVE FLORIDAN
    I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO
    WORK ON THE 1ST PHASE OF
    THE RESTOREAL OF THE RIVER
    BUT THAT WAS DURING THE
    JEB BUSH GOVERNOR DAYS
    AROUND THE 1999 TO 200O
    WE NEED PHASE 2 OF THE
    RESTORATION TO BE PUT ON
    THE DESK OF THE GOVERNOR
    AND TO FINISH THE RESTORATION
    OF THIS BEAUTIFUL RIVER...

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад +7

    All stories have two extreme sides and the truth is somewhere in the middle. This video presents just one of the sides. I grew up in Florida when all this was put into motion; it goes far, far beyond the Evil Big Texas Oil. Don't buy into the hype.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching! There were a lot of moving parts and motivations towards the construction of the Cross Florida Barge Canal you are right!

  • @necroslair
    @necroslair Год назад +3

    What a surprise that LBJ was involved in this. Where I am in the Georgia coast he visited after a hurricane and ordered these granite rocks to be placed in the sand dunes to prevent damage to property on a couple of barrier islands. Now wherever those rocks are (we derisively call them “Johnson Rocks”) we have some of the narrowest beaches on the coast. At low tide the beach might be 50ft or so and that disappears as soon as the tide starts coming in. Where the rocks aren’t and the sand is allowed to ebb and flow naturally have some of the widest beaches you can see.
    Hey, Hey, LBJ! How much of the Southern Environment have you ruined today?!

    • @greghenner4978
      @greghenner4978 Год назад

      LBJ was installed to do nothing but screw the USA up. That's why he didn't run for a 2nd term, he did the damage the deep state needed him to do. He was heading off to enjoy his retirement with his fat pockets.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @scottcook926
    @scottcook926 Год назад +2

    The section of the Ocklawaha from confluence with the Silver to the lake is one of the most magical places on earth. Crystal clear water, big gators, big snakes, otters, bass, gar, bowfin, even monkeys. A must see destination!!

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching, I agree that is a special place to visit!

  • @BrianKorth-nu7gw
    @BrianKorth-nu7gw Год назад +4

    In the little town of Melrose Florida you’ll see signs saying “ free the Ocklawaha river”. The river is one of my favorites to kayak on

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! I made a short film on Melrose called The Lake Santa Fe Story, feel free to check it out on RUclips. It was a great opportunity to spend time with folks from that community.

    • @BrianKorth-nu7gw
      @BrianKorth-nu7gw Год назад

      @@mattkeene oh I know a lot of people there. I know a guy that plays the dulcimer. David Beede I believe is his name . I’m sending all the videos to my dad who lives there. Thanks!

  • @stephensabo5900
    @stephensabo5900 3 года назад +17

    great video! very interesting! sad to see one of our nations greatest ecological areas undermined by a failure. i hope they execute the plan to fix!

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! There are strong efforts underway to breach the dam. Visit freetheocklawaha.com to learn more and, if you're interested, check out the short film I made a few years after this called Lost Springs.

  • @deepwaterescue4u
    @deepwaterescue4u Год назад +1

    I was a teen in the 70 and grew up camping hiking canoeing in Ocala national forest and the st Marys river, I remember fishing rod-man dam and never knew of this.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your story and watching!

    • @deepwaterescue4u
      @deepwaterescue4u Год назад +1

      @@mattkeene I love videos of old Florida and this one hit close to home and i never knew of it

  • @g-dcomplex1609
    @g-dcomplex1609 Год назад +3

    just one of many great ideas in the name of progress that destroyed florida's rivers, like the fenholloway river, the peace river, the kissimmee river etc, and countless springs reduced to muddy seeps, there was a artesian spring right on the beach at daytona beach,, gone, the springs at indian rocks beach,, gone, there was a spectacular artesian spring near orlando that was geyser like in nature,, gone forever, florida state regulators have welcomed the destruction of countless bodies of water for over one hundred years, great documentary on the subject, fight for your water florida.

  • @hikewithmike4673
    @hikewithmike4673 Год назад +6

    unfortunately living in Florida we always have a front row seat to urban sprawl..I wish we had public servants who would reign in the overdevelopment it is disgusting!!

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thank you for watching!

    • @talesfromanoldmanpatoneal6372
      @talesfromanoldmanpatoneal6372 Год назад

      What is there to say...... sad 😢

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад

      It will never stop. I am not supporting it I am just stating facts.

    • @mattwhaley1865
      @mattwhaley1865 Год назад

      Run for office. Get people out to vote, especially young people. If you don’t like this shit. You can change it.

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад

      @@mattwhaley1865 yes because that’s how it works. Lol. Your delusional.

  • @chipps1066
    @chipps1066 Год назад +4

    If it was ordered years ago that the dam would be removed ,what stopped it?LBJ was the precessor to the current opportunist in the White House,everything he did politically was to enrich he and his buddies at a critical cost to the nation.Remember Vietnam?Most supplies and equipment non-military were shipped to Vietnam at taxpayer cost via Sea Land shipping.Sea Land shipping was owned by Ladybird Johnsons' family.

    • @anfiach
      @anfiach Год назад

      Probably the widespread destruction that would be caused by the restoration. Activists care about their cause but often ignore the consequences of getting what they are asking for. It isn't a simple thing to reverse what they have done. The area has had many decades to heal itself. It will never be what it was before we made a mess of it and trying to reverse it will only lead to the deaths of millions more fauna and flora. That is before we even consider the impact to humans.

  • @paulseabrook8179
    @paulseabrook8179 2 года назад +128

    Yankees moving to Florida cause far more damage than this canal. Disney

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  2 года назад +12

      Thanks for watching! The canal was never completed. Disney

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад +1

      Lmao

    • @raycallie637
      @raycallie637 Год назад +4

      Sorry to offend you Native Americans

    • @tedbaxter5234
      @tedbaxter5234 Год назад +11

      Yankees built and maintain Florida.

    • @tedbaxter5234
      @tedbaxter5234 Год назад +4

      Yankees built and maintain Florida.

  • @ou-kd9rc
    @ou-kd9rc Год назад +4

    And meanwhile, silver springs is choked by green algae destroying the eel grass, there are hardly any native species of fish there anymore. Last time I was there in my kayak, I saw tilapia, mullet, several species carp, armored catfish, etc. Just a handful of bream and bass. I can remember feeding the fish from a glass bottom boat when I was a kid. I'm 49 years old and I am the 5th generation of my family to call Ocala/Marion County home. The unmanaged growth and overpopulation of this area deeply disturbs me. Just more good ole boy politics and old money carrying out their self serving agendas...

  • @robstewart5995
    @robstewart5995 Год назад +2

    Nicely done.......from a 5th Gen Floridian. 20 years ago I met Dixie Holland up there

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing and for watching!

  • @AbnEngrDan
    @AbnEngrDan Год назад +13

    Sorry, I live near the Ocklawaha. I know the history. I'm not defending the decisions of past politicians or companies. Here's what I know: nature cannot be controlled. It adjusts. As part of nature, it has already accounted for us. These people, though seening sincere, have a political agenda. The first speaker at the very beginning let it slip.
    Here in Florida, we are not short on fish, water and manatees.
    Some people need a cause.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @johncormier646
      @johncormier646 Год назад

      There's always two ways to look at this. The tree huggers don't want the dam. The bass fishermen don't want to live without it. It's true baitshops struggle. Too many in too small an area and Walmart sells everything except shiners and minnows.

    • @markdalton3834
      @markdalton3834 Год назад +1

      The river is still there and the fish still swim in it.

    • @jiveturkey365
      @jiveturkey365 Год назад +1

      ​@markdalton3834 nobody said they deleted the river. Of course it's still there, but it's restricted by the dam. Imagine someone tied a rope around your neck, you could breath still but not much. Eventually you'd fall over dead, maybe a few days maybe a year. But it would not be comfortable...

    • @Natureboy1607
      @Natureboy1607 8 месяцев назад

      Not sure how old you are . I'm assuming by your comment not as old as I am . I lived in the Ocala National Forrest and I remember every and I mean every trip going up the ocklawaha you would see many 10,12 and 15 lb bass swimming . In April and May you would 20 to 30 catfish 25 to 40 lbs easily swimming together to find those white sand bottoms to make their beds to spawn . As it sits now you will never see that again . The fish and wildlife don't care what you or I think when it comes to their existence . I watched one of the most beautiful places I've seen in this country be destroyed by outsiders and the love of money . Fla as whole .

  • @ashleywynn4923
    @ashleywynn4923 Год назад +8

    After this long of a period now, tearing down the rodman dam would do even more damage. So might as well leave it in place. Big sugar down south really messed up that place, that wont ever change back to the old flood plains.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @alexburke1899
      @alexburke1899 Год назад

      It’s gone from a low hazard failure rate to recently they declared it has a high hazard of failing. So they need to do something soon either way or it might fail and kill a bunch of people. This is Florida though where 85% of the population wants it removed but the politicians just ignore the voters and we’ll probably hear about it failing in a few years.
      I don’t understand how it could cause more damage to remove it, can you elaborate as to why? I realize some properties would get flooded that have been built since the dam, but usually the property owners will be compensated by the government if it’s a planned dam removal.
      I don’t see the downsides of restoring it to how it was, it would help migrating fish and birds and the people would benefit from getting the springs back which would help against saltwater intrusion into the drinking water supply.
      Currently there’s issues where people can’t use their local water if the ocean water has intruded, if it keeps going at this pace it’s conceivable property values will drop significantly in areas where the groundwater has been contaminated by salt and can no longer be used in homes.
      It’ll cost way more money to pipe water to people than whatever it costs to restore the water balance by removing the dam. Selling a house with no fresh water supply is probably really difficult.

    • @jiveturkey365
      @jiveturkey365 Год назад

      The dam is much farther north than the everglades. You are wrong. Stay out of Florida, don't even come to visit...

    • @bak-mariterry5180
      @bak-mariterry5180 Год назад

      ​@@jiveturkey365 Don't tell me what to do .
      I have friends who live in Florida and I will visit them at anytime I want.

    • @jiveturkey365
      @jiveturkey365 Год назад

      @bak-mariterry5180 I just spoke with your "friends" they said to tell you stay home.

  • @russell3380
    @russell3380 Год назад +4

    The only thing that outshines our arrogance is our stupidity.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад

      But yet you benefit from all kinds of modern things.

    • @russell3380
      @russell3380 Год назад

      @@mikepalmer1971It's great! Alexa, how much mercury is in 8lbs, of bass?

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад

      @@russell3380 that was not even close to the point I was making.

    • @russell3380
      @russell3380 Год назад

      @@mikepalmer1971 Well, I'm sorry about that.

  • @retiredlogman
    @retiredlogman Год назад +2

    An interesting presentation on a piece of history that influenced so many in so many ways. I talked to the surveyor who had a significant role in laying out the route and procuring the land. He told me how he had an office that was always kept locked and no way to see in windows. He was made to keep his role secret at the time. I don't think government has changed much.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing your story and watching!

  • @jimporter7209
    @jimporter7209 Год назад +2

    Get rid of the stupid dam and give us back our beautiful Oklawaha

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 Год назад +3

    Very interesting 🤔

  • @JonnyG0969
    @JonnyG0969 Год назад

    Beaver have been changing the landscape for thousands of years

    • @cliftongreene5318
      @cliftongreene5318 Год назад

      Beavers know what they are doing. Corporations do not. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

  • @RussShirley1
    @RussShirley1 Год назад

    Wonderful work and revealing story of Floridas destruction, waterway by waterway.

  • @chrisdaniel1339
    @chrisdaniel1339 Год назад +1

    It would have been pretty amazing to have a waterway for boaters to transit the peninsula of Florida.

  • @leonmills6867
    @leonmills6867 Год назад +1

    Look the damage government did by straightening the Kissimmee River back in the 60s. Just a straight flow from Orlando to Lake Okeechobee.

  • @SirFloofy001
    @SirFloofy001 Год назад +3

    I grew up in Palm bay/Melbourne FL and i've never heard of this. I would definitely say its forgotten, hell i didn't even know Florida HAD a canal system, the state is a swamp surrounded by ocean on all sides is it really that long of a journey around Florida? Next your gonna tell me there built a canal through a barrier island so they didn't have to boat around it.

  • @hikermode4217
    @hikermode4217 Год назад

    As someone from ocala im glad the canal wasn't finished as it would be millions of times more destructive than what it is now, so as terrible as it sounds im glad ocklawaha is the only affected area but the state needs to hurry up and get rid of the dam as doing so would near fix the situation.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @markvann9347
    @markvann9347 Год назад +1

    I grew up by the lochs on the Ocklawaha river... lived in eureka, Florida, right across from hog valley.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @melvonnar1
      @melvonnar1 Год назад

      hog valley-----biggest dump in Florida-------the wild west wasn't this bad-

  • @jwfinley7808
    @jwfinley7808 Год назад +1

    This is life!

  • @fjohnson9749
    @fjohnson9749 Год назад +1

    We live in Inglis on the Withlacoochee. Story here, and there are pictures, that it started in the ‘20s as a depression era project. As the economy rolled so did the project. Economy up - work stopped, economy down - work started.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and sharing!

  • @floridaman4976
    @floridaman4976 2 года назад +2

    The folk song played in the video sounds like "cats in the cradle" by Harry Chapin.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @bookertee3057
    @bookertee3057 Год назад

    Blow blow Seminole Wind. Chief Osceola still has tears.

  • @Papa_Naka
    @Papa_Naka Год назад

    Man, I have a shovel. I'm going to come up there and get a head start on digging!

  • @johnfontenot7861
    @johnfontenot7861 Год назад +6

    This was interesting until the goof ball started talking about the European “invasion” and asking why a river doesnt have rights. I am glad the river is being restored, it was beautiful.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! The river is not anywhere close to getting restored though.

    • @johnfontenot7861
      @johnfontenot7861 Год назад

      @@mattkeene i hope it gets fully restored!

    • @cliftongreene5318
      @cliftongreene5318 Год назад

      ​​​@@johnfontenot7861We get it. You don't respect indigenous peoples. However, why do you think corporations have more "rights" than than the earth and mother nature?

    • @johnfontenot7861
      @johnfontenot7861 Год назад

      @@cliftongreene5318 i didnt know corporations had “rights”

    • @lairdhaynes1986
      @lairdhaynes1986 Год назад

      ​@@johnfontenot7861Well, maybe you should learn about the the Citizens United decision by the Supteme Court. Corporations have been given basically all the rights formerly exclusive to individual citizens. There was a reason the framers of the Constituon were wary of corporations and put stringent restrictions on their formation, what they were allowed to do and limited their longevity. Those very prudent limitations have been eroded over the years by wealthy interests to the point that corporations now have outsized influence on every decision made in government and the individual citizens have very little say without solidarity of voice and action. Of course there is a lot of corporate propaganda to convince the citizenry that the poor corporations are being persecuted by the government with regulations and taxes but any honest assessment of the revolving door between government officials and boardroom executives tells a different story.

  • @jimmyday656
    @jimmyday656 Год назад

    Family land was taken for the Rodman Dam. Got a front row seat to this. "Freeing" the river will bring back the flooding. Leave it alone.

  • @jimporter7209
    @jimporter7209 Год назад +1

    Unfortunately, my uncle was instrumental in the construction of the Cross Florida Barge Canal. Even as a child I thought it was a disaster and I was right.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing and for watching!

  • @Celticman197
    @Celticman197 Год назад +1

    It's just the Rich people, not the rest of us.

  • @JD-xg8zi
    @JD-xg8zi Год назад +1

    These people need a proper spokesperson. The general public will not take some dork snorkler hat wearing grey haired hippie anthropomorphisizing a River seriously. The message is there and powerful but the spokes persons are all wrong. I loved that damn dam too had a lot of good times out there

  • @fakenews7266
    @fakenews7266 Год назад

    I have seen mullet so thick in these creeks that feed the rivers in South Florida that the water looks black where if you were drunk you might try to walk on them .

  • @paulwilliams6946
    @paulwilliams6946 Год назад +2

    If the dam is removed the home building will move in and you will have bigger problems

  • @danparker8254
    @danparker8254 Год назад +1

    A slice through the Florida aquifer screwing everything south of it.

  • @alishaygan9844
    @alishaygan9844 Год назад

    Why after being ordered to be destroyed is the dam still there?

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Although the majority of state and federal agencies support restoration, money from the state needs to be directed towards an approved restoration project.

  • @williamcoe9200
    @williamcoe9200 Год назад +1

    Been fishing at the Rodman dam.many times....I don't think they used the canal many times

  • @thechesapeake45
    @thechesapeake45 Год назад +2

    Thank you for this.
    I grew up on the river and my grandmother was a bridge tender just outside of Ocala.
    Her partner, Uncle Joe, ran two glass bottom boat tours to Silver Springs and back.
    His name was Joe Borden.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thank you for watching and sharing! I tried to interview a few glass-bottom boat tour operators but was unable to.

  • @billphil8235
    @billphil8235 Год назад +1

    Caloosahatchee River
    River and St. Lucie river are the same thing.

  • @RPSchonherr
    @RPSchonherr Год назад

    The Oclawaha looks pretty good today. 2023.

    • @Natureboy1607
      @Natureboy1607 8 месяцев назад

      You have no idea how wrong you are .

  • @mnoliberal7335
    @mnoliberal7335 Год назад

    That was a Democratic Governor bragging about that era's Infrastructure "shovel ready project." I lived near there and the channelization of the Ocklawaha River is tragic, though segments remain un-"improved". The canal extends miles inland from each coast. And we DO have inalienable rights. Only people have rights.

  • @HoldFast-un2fc
    @HoldFast-un2fc Год назад

    Great video

  • @JonnyG0969
    @JonnyG0969 Год назад

    Doesn't the river flow constantly still? With a flooded area above the dam.Where Dams create a large backwaters with a river in and river out?

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching! Like most dammed rivers, the flow is controlled at a gate. When the gates were lowered, a large backwater was created along nearly 16 miles of river. This backwater slopes deeper towards the dam where more water piles up and spreads lower miles upstream from the dam, impacting thousands of acres of wetlands. Thats why trees 12 miles upstream from the dam are sickly... kept in a state of permanent, low floodwaters.

  • @FL-Man78
    @FL-Man78 2 года назад

    I grew up 1 mile from this dam place. I used to go to the dam bait shop and the dam dinner there.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @christopherharrison5025
    @christopherharrison5025 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well, I don't mind breaking some of these peoples pride of what they think they know. But that big machine got disassembled and torn down for a FACT! There was a hydraulic company out of Leesburg that helped with the dismantling. Ashamed some of these people are right about some of the stories but my grandfather was there first hand and watched it get torn apart out of eureka.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing your story and history. That machine was quite the assembly and it must have been a thing to see.

  • @libertyforamericanow
    @libertyforamericanow Год назад

    Born in ft.luarderdale been in hernando County since 82. Im all for removing the damn dam

  • @michellekrueger5122
    @michellekrueger5122 Год назад +1

    So where does Florida Stand now,on this matter? Can you not open the Dam and leave open? Without destroying the Dam, it would be there if ever needed , but leave open now, to restore the river and wet lands ...would" not this work or am I missing some thing? .....

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Search Free the Ocklawaha for current updates but the impoundment is managed by the state and so that management and maintenance will continue until funds are appropriated and directed towards restoration. It doesnt need to be destroyed, just opened or breached and is a simple fix in the end, you're right

  • @robertporter1429
    @robertporter1429 3 года назад +3

    Matt Keene... great video....In 1969-70 I recall my grandfather (working for the Fl Audobon Society) taking lots of pix of the Crawler/Crusher in action....he showed them to me as a kid...they were appaling......in any event, here we are today...... by the way is there any way you can send me or publish the full video of Gov Haydon Burns segment on the PR video release on the advantages of the new "ditch".... Many thanks!!!

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  3 года назад

      Thank you for sharing! The archive footage was provided from the Florida State Archives. You can see that entire video (called "Florida's Canal Main Street") here: floridamemory.com/items/show/245871

    • @Dave-co1cv
      @Dave-co1cv 2 года назад

      Would you have felt better if they had used a chain saw?

  • @Jack-bn6rc
    @Jack-bn6rc Год назад

    What's the song called?

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Rodman Dam by Lonesome Bert and the Skinny Lizards: ruclips.net/video/BJX2blFsTng/видео.html

  • @markconner3234
    @markconner3234 Год назад +6

    Republicans stopped this disaster..well done Pres Nixon

    • @jman6109
      @jman6109 Год назад +3

      Don't make this a red, blue issue. Don't take the politicians bate, that's how nothing gets done. Not to mention, Tearing our country apart!

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад +5

      Please spare me. Both parties suck.

  • @thomgarza
    @thomgarza Год назад

    The destruction of the Ocklawaha is enjoined with the MIll Cove in Fort Caroline area. The concept of "progress" is a very subjective topic and the "Florida of Today" beckons more progress, to restore these waterways.

  • @bigrich6750
    @bigrich6750 Год назад +2

    A good presentation except for the communist guy, Draper. People have inalienable human rights because they’re human and created in the image of God. You know the thing - created with certain unalienable rights? Rivers don’t have rights, which doesn’t not mean that we should not be good stewards of nature. We should and I’m all for restoring the river but being angry because people did something 65 years ago, is silly. As a teenager in the early ‘70s, I went to see Nixon when he came to the port of Mobile, Alabama to kick off the Tennessee/Tombigbee waterway. They connected the two rivers thinking they were creating a better shipping waterway to the Midwest, but we already had the Mississippi, so it never got used and turned out to be a failure and waste of money. We’ve all learned a lot about eco-systems since those day and things have changed. We can be good stewards without a communist utopia. Sounds like everyone is for restoring the river so I wonder what the hold-up is.

  • @markconner3234
    @markconner3234 Год назад +2

    We filled in the Kissimmee. God will repair his earth.

  • @swampy8308
    @swampy8308 Год назад +2

    Do you have any idea what your asking for? If the dam is ever removed the loss of income to the county will cause loss of services and much higher land taxes. The dam has been there most of my life and hopefully it will remain until after I'm gone from this earth.

  • @billydavis6798
    @billydavis6798 Год назад

    I just saw this,five years late. Ok somebody, what happened?

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! Check out my other short film Lost Springs for more perspective on the river!

  • @badman187ification
    @badman187ification Год назад +1

    Just a suggestion lol. One of you ol timers should take it to the other side with you when you're done.

    • @Natureboy1607
      @Natureboy1607 8 месяцев назад

      No you need to remove your humor and look at the facts . It is so simple . I'm sure you are not likely from Fla. .

  • @benjaminkiser2938
    @benjaminkiser2938 Год назад

    If there was no migration how is it that I can catch striped bass in the dams spillway.

    • @mikepalmer1971
      @mikepalmer1971 Год назад

      Land locked striped bass maybe? Many of them in lakes all over not connected to the ocean. They have them in Tennessee and there is no ocean there.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching! Hybrid striped bass are a managed fishery in the area! Striped bass can be caught right up to the spillway, you're right, but good luck seeing one upstream towards Silver Springs!

  • @BIGDAVE5352
    @BIGDAVE5352 Год назад

    I remember My GF changing her pad in that parking lot next to the dam back in 2010 during our visit.

  • @JVRottweil
    @JVRottweil Год назад +1

    Now if they drain the reservoir they will put in a million people in condos

  • @Pfsif
    @Pfsif Год назад

    Great project people of the 50s.

  • @RayCasey2010
    @RayCasey2010 2 года назад +1

    Undue weight of special interest groups, both for and against a cause, is crazy. These people are fanatics.

  • @markbonner1139
    @markbonner1139 Год назад +2

    2 MANY DAMN YANKEES,THEY LOVE URBAN SPRAWL & THEIR CARS!!!

    • @JonnyG0969
      @JonnyG0969 Год назад

      There are way more Yankees that are way more redneck than the south will ever be.

    • @JonnyG0969
      @JonnyG0969 Год назад

      The rich city people aren't Yankees. The United States of America is all Yankee. With a few ignorant rebel southerners. But way more good rebs than bad just like way more good thanks than bad. Get with it quit feeling sorry for yourself.

  • @5265vic
    @5265vic Год назад

    The three richest man in Leesburg built that giant swamp destroyer, it had a big water tank in the center for adding weight.
    They were in it to get richer.

  • @moodiblues2
    @moodiblues2 Год назад

    They paved paradise and put up a parking lot ״ Joni Mitchell

  • @jnh2174
    @jnh2174 Год назад +1

    A river has no rights.humans have rights from God.

  • @cpcattin
    @cpcattin 2 года назад

    Wah !

  • @truebeliever5233
    @truebeliever5233 Год назад +1

    What can be done to bring the River back? I'm pretty sure if y'all contacted Governor DeSantis and just showed him this film, he would be spurred into action. Is there anything we folks in your audience can do to help get this project on the table and into action?

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching. The group Free the Ocklawaha has the most current resources for supporting restoration and speaking to legislation. Restoration has been supported by almost all agencies, funds need to be allocated and the process begun.

  • @GardenerEarthGuy
    @GardenerEarthGuy Год назад

    Catchy song! Florida needs to build a 20,000 foot mountain so we can have glaciers and steal business from people wanting to summit Mt. Everest, but need a more affordable option.

  • @allen84jr
    @allen84jr 4 месяца назад

    That canal would have been great

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @richardoneal1055
    @richardoneal1055 Год назад +2

    "The river is happy."
    These people are not sane.

  • @christopherharrison5025
    @christopherharrison5025 8 месяцев назад

    Also if you removed that damn. Tens of thousands of homes and other areas that have adapted to the new ecosystem would devistate the entire north central part of florida. I mean I think we should but is anyone thinking about the volume of water that's going to flood everything down the ocklawaha.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching! An unplanned for breach of the dam while it was at full pool would endanger some homes below the dam and flood a fair number or properties but I'm not sure there are tens of thousands of homes to be found that would be impacted. They release the water every four or five years in a process called a drawdown. Plans for restoration call for a staged drawdown allowing the water to be released over the course of a month. This has been done since the 1990s and has not led to the loss of homes or properties despite the state's growth in population. They'd first slowly lower the water, and then breach the dam.

  • @lost94133
    @lost94133 Год назад

    Free flowing straight to the ocean where it's made useless
    With all the ppl coming here we need fresh water things are not as simple as they seem

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  Год назад

      Thanks for watching! The Rodman Dam was not constructed as a basin for drinking water but as a place for cargo ships to be staged and maneuver around each other. It doesn't have the capacity to provide drinking water, isn't a preferred source of the water management district, and would likely jeopardize the existing recreational opportunities behind the dam. All dams are not as simple as they seem.

  • @karennadeau8251
    @karennadeau8251 Год назад

    Lord, I had no idea. How horrible 😢 this government never stops its destruction. 😢

  • @sabinadonofrio8863
    @sabinadonofrio8863 Год назад

    Wow, just to save the manatee!!

  • @rdeanp
    @rdeanp Год назад

    I miss Whitey.

    • @mattkeene
      @mattkeene  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching, I agree