Who hired this guy. Every car mechanic absolutely love this style for removal of nuts after broken free. you ain't twisting like a torque wrench cmon use your brain as leverage
After seeing your video I realized I never tried to really put much torque on my 1/4" Stanley while using it with the rotary handle, as I always thought it could break if I tried, so I only used it to rotate the screw in tight spaces till it was tight, then used the normal ratchet mechanism. Same thing for loosening screws. But I would like to say a few things in defense of the Proxxon/Stanley vs Facom. One, compared to the Facom, the Stanley is considerably larger and more comfortable to use, longer neck, longer grip, only a tad smaller than the 3/8" Proxxon you are using in the video, and I think the 1/4" Proxxon is quite similar. The Facom may go to higher torque but as I saw it was quite uncomfortable to rotate, needing a pair of pliers to do it, which makes it useless in tight spaces no matter the torque. Second, at least in my country, the Proxxon and the Stanley come at a considerably lower price than the 1/4" Facom, both the Stanley and the Proxxon are around 35-40 EUR (not to mention the Stanley comes with a set of 8 wrench heads from 4 to 13mm for the price), compared to 60-65 for the Facom. Third, and not by far the least important, the Proxxon has that end coupling I always admired, that allows to put an extension, another ratchet, an electric bit driver or, if you're mad enough even an impact driver to speed the process, turning it by hand is rather slow (not sure about the Proxxxon but at least on the Stanley). So, no wonder they tried to protect the tool from abuse, they mention everywhere (brochure, user guide) that the tool must not exceed 12.5 Nm, and I believe that is the value for the normal ratcheting mechanism, not the rotary one. Think what would happen if that clutch did not slip soon enough while being driven, let's say, by my 12V 1/4" Bosch impact driver that has a 105 Nm max torque. Even my 12V Bosch regular bit driver has a 35Nm torque, so 3 times the max reccomended torque of that tool. They would have to exchange a lot of tools under warranty.
Apparently Stanley sells the Proxxon, just rebranded. You should test it to see if there’s any differences internally? There’s no videos on RUclips testing them against each other. Would be cool to see!
These types of ratchets are definitely more suited for fasteners that aren't rusted or corroded. Break the fastener free in the conventional manner, then quickly remove it by twisting. The thing I'm not a fan of with the Proxxon and the offerings from the Stanley B&D family (Facom, USAG, Sidchrome, Blackhawk, etc) is the head size. There's another company in Taiwan called WTool (William Tools) that makes a nice compact head. Would be interested in what you might think of them.
@@bzeug yes, that's the one! I didn't know they had it on their site as I'm pretty sure I didn't see it on their site the last time I was there. At one point I gave up on finding out who was making them, then I just stumbled across a video from a tool tradeshow that featured it. William Tools is a pretty big name in the Taiwan tool industry, and has been a major OEM/ODM for many years.
Brothers in tools; the other CHRIStopherCAStor here with My 2 cents about the quarter inch drive within the proxxon handle. I am thinking about situations where the distance between the fastener and ratchet head is long, and the space near the handle is confined. Example that comes to mind: bell housing bolts. I would love to put a long 1/4” extension on a speed handle to spin the handle, rather than grind the skin from my knuckles in confined spaces. However; when the dang clutch slips from the resistance of every other grime filled thread, that goofy green tool would find itself flying across my shop! Love ‘em? Nah. Facom. Cheers gentlemen and Merry Christmas! I have to get back to assembling a kitchen for my daughter. Thank God for my CentroFix. -CYCastor AKA the other ChrisCas
Sorry, I don't have the Stanley, but I am very curious about the wtools version of these tools that ChrisCas referred to in these comments. They have a little different design. I put a link under his comment.
When you dont have much room to swing you can take up the slack with tbe rotory part then break the bolt free with the swing. When its broken free then you can use the rotory handle to remove. The drive in the end is mostly usefull for speed. I have managed to use the proxon ratchet with a ¼" ratchet on the end of it for tightrning a coolant banjo bolt where the transfer case was in the way before and that was successful with a small swing at the end to nip it up a bit as described. Ive only ever had mine slip when I put my ⅜ impact gun on the end with a ¼" adaptor to break free exhaust manifold nuts.
Do you have any idea how FACOM rotary handle works? I'm impressed how well it works. No matter you turn right or left, the head turns in one direction only, amaising!
Thank you for that feedback. Yes, I think mine was more capable when it was new. Over time with more slips on that mechanism it got worse? Maybe, I don't know for sure, but when it was new I don't remember it ever slipping.
@@bzeug For sure: ruclips.net/video/RkvUt3CqM_A/видео.html Thank you ToolBro. 👍 There is another one with all my ratchets: ruclips.net/video/Le6d5OgeKc0/видео.html ⚒️
thanks for this video, it’s a firm no for me! 😂 maybe if they were long reach, but the heads are always massive on those. At that point, you can fit a cordless ratchet.. Dewalt has 2 new right angle impact attachments coming out soon (a 1/4 and 3/8) part numbers DWAMRA14FT and DWAMRA38FT. They attach to anything with a bit driver. If they’re super compact, I may pick one up!
Не имеет значения, Proxxon или Facom - они обе игрушки и обе умрут рано или поздно. Всё дело в том, что цилиндрическая шестерня на рукоятке не имеет точной геометрии соприкосновения с круговыми шестернями в корпусе. В итоге шестерня на рукоятке стачивается со временем, забивая металлической пылью необслуживаемый механизм трещотки. Вы можете достать рукоятку, отвинтив два болта, и увидеть, как сточены зубы её шестерни. Эти трещотки - одноразовые поделки.
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Who hired this guy. Every car mechanic absolutely love this style for removal of nuts after broken free. you ain't twisting like a torque wrench cmon use your brain as leverage
After seeing your video I realized I never tried to really put much torque on my 1/4" Stanley while using it with the rotary handle, as I always thought it could break if I tried, so I only used it to rotate the screw in tight spaces till it was tight, then used the normal ratchet mechanism. Same thing for loosening screws.
But I would like to say a few things in defense of the Proxxon/Stanley vs Facom.
One, compared to the Facom, the Stanley is considerably larger and more comfortable to use, longer neck, longer grip, only a tad smaller than the 3/8" Proxxon you are using in the video, and I think the 1/4" Proxxon is quite similar. The Facom may go to higher torque but as I saw it was quite uncomfortable to rotate, needing a pair of pliers to do it, which makes it useless in tight spaces no matter the torque.
Second, at least in my country, the Proxxon and the Stanley come at a considerably lower price than the 1/4" Facom, both the Stanley and the Proxxon are around 35-40 EUR (not to mention the Stanley comes with a set of 8 wrench heads from 4 to 13mm for the price), compared to 60-65 for the Facom.
Third, and not by far the least important, the Proxxon has that end coupling I always admired, that allows to put an extension, another ratchet, an electric bit driver or, if you're mad enough even an impact driver to speed the process, turning it by hand is rather slow (not sure about the Proxxxon but at least on the Stanley). So, no wonder they tried to protect the tool from abuse, they mention everywhere (brochure, user guide) that the tool must not exceed 12.5 Nm, and I believe that is the value for the normal ratcheting mechanism, not the rotary one. Think what would happen if that clutch did not slip soon enough while being driven, let's say, by my 12V 1/4" Bosch impact driver that has a 105 Nm max torque. Even my 12V Bosch regular bit driver has a 35Nm torque, so 3 times the max reccomended torque of that tool. They would have to exchange a lot of tools under warranty.
Why you did not rotate the handle in both directions?
Apparently Stanley sells the Proxxon, just rebranded. You should test it to see if there’s any differences internally? There’s no videos on RUclips testing them against each other. Would be cool to see!
These types of ratchets are definitely more suited for fasteners that aren't rusted or corroded. Break the fastener free in the conventional manner, then quickly remove it by twisting. The thing I'm not a fan of with the Proxxon and the offerings from the Stanley B&D family (Facom, USAG, Sidchrome, Blackhawk, etc) is the head size. There's another company in Taiwan called WTool (William Tools) that makes a nice compact head. Would be interested in what you might think of them.
Is it this one? www.wtools.com.tw/product/60t-rotator-ratchet-handle-06444/
@@bzeug yes, that's the one! I didn't know they had it on their site as I'm pretty sure I didn't see it on their site the last time I was there.
At one point I gave up on finding out who was making them, then I just stumbled across a video from a tool tradeshow that featured it.
William Tools is a pretty big name in the Taiwan tool industry, and has been a major OEM/ODM for many years.
Brothers in tools; the other CHRIStopherCAStor here with My 2 cents about the quarter inch drive within the proxxon handle. I am thinking about situations where the distance between the fastener and ratchet head is long, and the space near the handle is confined. Example that comes to mind: bell housing bolts. I would love to put a long 1/4” extension on a speed handle to spin the handle, rather than grind the skin from my knuckles in confined spaces. However; when the dang clutch slips from the resistance of every other grime filled thread, that goofy green tool would find itself flying across my shop! Love ‘em? Nah. Facom.
Cheers gentlemen and Merry Christmas!
I have to get back to assembling a kitchen for my daughter. Thank God for my CentroFix.
-CYCastor
AKA the other ChrisCas
Because it's more ment for getting the nut or bolt out AFTER it has been loosened than loosing itself?
Have you ever tried the Stanley Rotator ratchet? I’d like to hear your comparison
Sorry, I don't have the Stanley, but I am very curious about the wtools version of these tools that ChrisCas referred to in these comments. They have a little different design. I put a link under his comment.
I got a rotary ratchet by Deen Japan, ordered from monotaro. It is very smooth, less backdrag.
When you dont have much room to swing you can take up the slack with tbe rotory part then break the bolt free with the swing. When its broken free then you can use the rotory handle to remove. The drive in the end is mostly usefull for speed. I have managed to use the proxon ratchet with a ¼" ratchet on the end of it for tightrning a coolant banjo bolt where the transfer case was in the way before and that was successful with a small swing at the end to nip it up a bit as described. Ive only ever had mine slip when I put my ⅜ impact gun on the end with a ¼" adaptor to break free exhaust manifold nuts.
I was about to buy one. Thanks for saving me some bucks😅
You can twist handle both ways with the facom and it will tighten same when you want to undo
Do you have any idea how FACOM rotary handle works? I'm impressed how well it works. No matter you turn right or left, the head turns in one direction only, amaising!
Yeah your right you can twist both ways and it will still spin the socket
1/2 is often cheaper than 3/8 in Europe because 1/2 is just a lot more common than 3/8.
tried it on my proxxon 3/8 and also on 1/4 and i can get to 6Nm just fine everytime on both.
Thank you for that feedback. Yes, I think mine was more capable when it was new. Over time with more slips on that mechanism it got worse? Maybe, I don't know for sure, but when it was new I don't remember it ever slipping.
were can i buy that torq adapter ? [im building smal electronics]
The one shown is from Amazon Japan. Here is that link. amzn.to/44HfC01 You can find versions of it on Amazon USA too. Here is a link: amzn.to/44yATJo
Tried the craftsman,,,or the kobalt versions
You missed some! Check out my Rotary Ratschen Club to find out more...
Do you have a link you can put here? I Subed to your channel.
@@bzeug For sure: ruclips.net/video/RkvUt3CqM_A/видео.html Thank you ToolBro. 👍 There is another one with all my ratchets: ruclips.net/video/Le6d5OgeKc0/видео.html ⚒️
thanks for this video, it’s a firm no for me! 😂 maybe if they were long reach, but the heads are always massive on those. At that point, you can fit a cordless ratchet.. Dewalt has 2 new right angle impact attachments coming out soon (a 1/4 and 3/8) part numbers DWAMRA14FT and DWAMRA38FT. They attach to anything with a bit driver. If they’re super compact, I may pick one up!
Good to know!!! Thanks for the Input.
Those DeWalt right angle adapters look interesting. Thank you.
most 1/4 bolts are 20 nm
Не имеет значения, Proxxon или Facom - они обе игрушки и обе умрут рано или поздно. Всё дело в том, что цилиндрическая шестерня на рукоятке не имеет точной геометрии соприкосновения с круговыми шестернями в корпусе. В итоге шестерня на рукоятке стачивается со временем, забивая металлической пылью необслуживаемый механизм трещотки. Вы можете достать рукоятку, отвинтив два болта, и увидеть, как сточены зубы её шестерни. Эти трещотки - одноразовые поделки.
for the Facom, it's not a problem , cause the brand offers a lifetime warranty : just re-send them the tool, and they send you back a brand-new one
Man I have the same problem with my proxxon
Cristina Harbor
For the price I've never liked Proxxon either. I think they're built for Lego 🤣
This guy is clueless about how the tool is to be used.