Great video. If I may add some of my comments: The Rigid Pro Lights come with a 5w Osram LED. The LED's have a 5300-5500 kelvin temp. The LED Boards are designed by Rigid and completed in their production facility. The housings and face plates are powder coated with UV and rust protection which helps prevent fading. Raw Lumens are a great marketing tool. Many Lights who have a 3000 raw lumen output are not always the most effective and can put out a lot less lux than others. It is all in how that power is harnessed and the materials you use to project. If you are using the full RIGID fog kit with mounts and lights, the kit comes with the extended brackets so that the lights are mounted upright and not upside down. If you are using an outside mount kit you can purchase the extended bracket # 46537. The Spot beam was created with patented Hybrid Optic technology. It uses a wide reflector, similar to what you see in other lights, with the main difference being the center bonnet. That bonnet is placed within a patented measurement that allows you to get the most LUX out of your light. Lux being the energy that is coming from the light through the lens. It also allows for better focus preventing "spill" or wasted light. The SAE output shots weren't as clear. Rigid designs their SAE light with what they call a lenticular lens which they created using the DOT/SAE standards. The optic that powers this beam is the HyperSpot. The same Hyperspot that you use for offroading. It is the most direct led spot beam in the industry. When the light is projected through the optic and hits the lens it is shot out at a 60 Degree spread with a sharp top and bottom cut off per the DOT/SAE standards. This allows ground coverage without light effecting oncoming drivers. The Driving beam was designed with 6 LED's and was created to give you a wide spot with a tall vertical beam. This beam is great for canyons or mountains. Let me know if you want to connect via email and I can help you out with any RIGID needs you have.
@Richie at Rigid With the Rigid lights being upside down, wouldnt that effect the way the SAE light is projected? From my understanding the Baja designs lenses are made to be oriented a specific way so it keeps light down on the road more and has a cut-off of sorts for light at higher/wider points to keep from blinding oncoming drivers.
Wonderful and thorough quantitative comment. You have me sold. I prefer the Rigid design and this detailed description is exactly what I want to see from a company that knows what they are doing and cares about the product. Thank you!
@@brandon73072 Hey man sorry for the ultra long delay. The RIGID SAE beam has a vertical spread of 5% with a sharp cut off on the top and bottom. The beam pattern will be the same whether the lights are right side up or upside down. You will just need to aim the beam pattern to your desired spec. The pattern will flood the floor without lifting into on coming traffic. If you happen to mount the lights upside down just take off the lens and flip it over. There is a rubber gasket that goes between the lens and the housing. Just make sure that is on correctly and you will be good to go.
Another thing to remember is for the Baja’s. these are the SAE. These are their lowest light output light they make. They make the sports, which are a little brighter than the SAE and have much more spread. The SAE is their street legal lights. Then they also make a pro light which is almost double the light output of the sports. So while this video is definitely a great show and a great comparison. Just remember that Baja does make two more lights, that are significantly brighter than these.
The higher CRI of the baja costs a lot more, the bluer low cri color temperature is not as good for off roading. Best example I can give, if you are driving in snow the blue/white will wash everything out while the warmer color temperature will still allow you to see in the snow. Also the vlue/white, "cool" temperature has a lot more blue in it and your eyes are much more sensitive to that so your eyes will believe that it's brighter when it isn't and it's much harder on your eyes. I always choose a warmer color temperature for my sxs.
Anyone watching this video needs to understand the host did not follow the installation instructions on the BD products. The star washers are intended to fit between the bracket and the housing. This prevents rotation and takes up the "slop" mentioned above.
additionally, the BD are intended to be user serviced and orientation of the lights doesn't affect warranty coverage. The lens colors and patterns are designed to be user serviceable. We've raced with both, and while both are market leaders, the usable output, color, and reliability of the Baja Designs makes them my GO-TO .
everyone wants to comments about how the SAE versions are useless... the whole idea is for them to be brighter than stock halogen bulbs (and probably factory LED fog lights as well) while still being street legal.. They aren't designed for off road use so they're not gonna have off road output
@@jtrischler I'm really liking the Rigid Radiance, is the amber in them visible with the fog on? Kinda wanna use the amber back light as a turn signal. Great vid btw!
not at noon, it's deff white, it's only yellowish later in the day, sunset. I'm a pro photographer and it's my job to know exact temperatures in all scenarios. : )
Great video. If I may add some of my comments:
The Rigid Pro Lights come with a 5w Osram LED. The LED's have a 5300-5500 kelvin temp. The LED Boards are designed by Rigid and completed in their production facility. The housings and face plates are powder coated with UV and rust protection which helps prevent fading. Raw Lumens are a great marketing tool. Many Lights who have a 3000 raw lumen output are not always the most effective and can put out a lot less lux than others. It is all in how that power is harnessed and the materials you use to project.
If you are using the full RIGID fog kit with mounts and lights, the kit comes with the extended brackets so that the lights are mounted upright and not upside down. If you are using an outside mount kit you can purchase the extended bracket # 46537.
The Spot beam was created with patented Hybrid Optic technology. It uses a wide reflector, similar to what you see in other lights, with the main difference being the center bonnet. That bonnet is placed within a patented measurement that allows you to get the most LUX out of your light. Lux being the energy that is coming from the light through the lens. It also allows for better focus preventing "spill" or wasted light.
The SAE output shots weren't as clear. Rigid designs their SAE light with what they call a lenticular lens which they created using the DOT/SAE standards. The optic that powers this beam is the HyperSpot. The same Hyperspot that you use for offroading. It is the most direct led spot beam in the industry. When the light is projected through the optic and hits the lens it is shot out at a 60 Degree spread with a sharp top and bottom cut off per the DOT/SAE standards. This allows ground coverage without light effecting oncoming drivers.
The Driving beam was designed with 6 LED's and was created to give you a wide spot with a tall vertical beam. This beam is great for canyons or mountains.
Let me know if you want to connect via email and I can help you out with any RIGID needs you have.
@Richie at Rigid With the Rigid lights being upside down, wouldnt that effect the way the SAE light is projected? From my understanding the Baja designs lenses are made to be oriented a specific way so it keeps light down on the road more and has a cut-off of sorts for light at higher/wider points to keep from blinding oncoming drivers.
Wonderful and thorough quantitative comment. You have me sold. I prefer the Rigid design and this detailed description is exactly what I want to see from a company that knows what they are doing and cares about the product. Thank you!
@@brandon73072 Hey man sorry for the ultra long delay. The RIGID SAE beam has a vertical spread of 5% with a sharp cut off on the top and bottom. The beam pattern will be the same whether the lights are right side up or upside down. You will just need to aim the beam pattern to your desired spec. The pattern will flood the floor without lifting into on coming traffic. If you happen to mount the lights upside down just take off the lens and flip it over. There is a rubber gasket that goes between the lens and the housing. Just make sure that is on correctly and you will be good to go.
@@richieatrigid6327 No problem on the delay, and much appreciate the reply and info.
Rickie at Rigid, I would like your email to discuss some options for my 2020 F350 Platinum.
Really good comparison....probably the best informative video I've seen actually comparing the 2 brands. Great job!
Another thing to remember is for the Baja’s. these are the SAE. These are their lowest light output light they make. They make the sports, which are a little brighter than the SAE and have much more spread. The SAE is their street legal lights. Then they also make a pro light which is almost double the light output of the sports. So while this video is definitely a great show and a great comparison. Just remember that Baja does make two more lights, that are significantly brighter than these.
you are correct. Another apples to oranges comparison.
Excellent video... thanks, John!
Which model number was the last one for the rigid. The bright ones please
The star washers go between the light housing and mounting bracket on the Baja Designs light. This makes the bracket tight.
Nice job, vote for you
10:41 Which one this light?
Diod Dynamics SS3 pods are just as good if not better and the quality is the same . Good Comparison though!
good video i will go on your website now
The higher CRI of the baja costs a lot more, the bluer low cri color temperature is not as good for off roading.
Best example I can give, if you are driving in snow the blue/white will wash everything out while the warmer color temperature will still allow you to see in the snow.
Also the vlue/white, "cool" temperature has a lot more blue in it and your eyes are much more sensitive to that so your eyes will believe that it's brighter when it isn't and it's much harder on your eyes.
I always choose a warmer color temperature for my sxs.
Anyone watching this video needs to understand the host did not follow the installation instructions on the BD products. The star washers are intended to fit between the bracket and the housing. This prevents rotation and takes up the "slop" mentioned above.
additionally, the BD are intended to be user serviced and orientation of the lights doesn't affect warranty coverage. The lens colors and patterns are designed to be user serviceable. We've raced with both, and while both are market leaders, the usable output, color, and reliability of the Baja Designs makes them my GO-TO .
everyone wants to comments about how the SAE versions are useless... the whole idea is for them to be brighter than stock halogen bulbs (and probably factory LED fog lights as well) while still being street legal.. They aren't designed for off road use so they're not gonna have off road output
It looks like the SAE's dont even light the road up at all thats strange.
Matt A lot of that is perspective and what the camera or screen will show. Needless to say, there is a big difference in SAE and off-road.
Those sae lights are useless for both. What a joke. What are the outputs of each brand/pattern?
good stuff!
Nate glad you enjoyed it!
@@jtrischler I'm really liking the Rigid Radiance, is the amber in them visible with the fog on? Kinda wanna use the amber back light as a turn signal. Great vid btw!
nice
Not sure what planet you're from, but sunlight gives off a yellowish light. Our sun is not blue. You should be stating 6000k vs 5000k.
not at noon, it's deff white, it's only yellowish later in the day, sunset. I'm a pro photographer and it's my job to know exact temperatures in all scenarios. : )
@kui woods yes like 5600k
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But the rigid leak. Powerwash the baja all day
Nothing cheaper looking than cool white LEDs. A true 5000k white led bulb is hard to come by and that's why Baja Designs is superior!