Many of you have wanted to see the underground sub basement levels of an AT&T Longlines bunker facility, which is usually a Coaxial hub, I found a smaller channel today that toured and documented the entire thing, and I told them I have the perfect place to share it ruclips.net/video/4H8ogjvjS7s/видео.html Let's get them over 1k! also, since this video was made, I have found FOIA documents that explicitly state the details of several Cold War fallout shelters on this former Air Force SAGE site at Montauk, and have since published a book, where I discuss the underground and I reprinted several of these documents ' Montauk Is Strange' store.bookbaby.com/book/montauk-is-strange
When I was 12 we moved out to what was Rural Palatine Ill. We were just past/over the city limit our fence line was the limit. Anyway, there was this small metal shack, stainless steel about 500 feet out from our house on what seemed to be an empty field. for two years I lived right next to it dirt biking, resting near it on a break before riding again. Id sit there and rabbit hunt from that spot with my 22 in winter. One fine summer day at 14 finally noticed there were some hinges under a metal plate that I just thought was a transformer or something. So I got some pliers and pulled the cotter pins and took out the hinge pins. Be excited! As I lifted that cover. I was staring DOWN a long CLEAN and lit metal tube with rungs and lights, and some warning signs. I climbed down ladder about 75-100 ft and it opened up to a big chamber. There were lighted control panels all along the walls covered in switches and levers. desks, file cabinets and a locked Door like a submarine door with the wheel and all. I got scared and left, put in the hinge pins and cotter pins, and got the heck out of there. 5 minutes later a white plain van with two dudes in uniforms showed up, looked around. talked on a walkie talkie. Then unlocked hatch DREW GUNS and opened it! I was watching them in the field thru a curtain over my telescope! They came out looked around for awhile and left. A week later I got up the courage and went back, pulled the cotters and pins, opened the hatch and got a BAD feeling! I immediately tidied it all up ran back home. Like 2 minutes later a white 4 wheel drive and 2 white vans came. I hid in my room, they looked ALL around that field. Next day after school I drove by the hatch. It is now gone, the big silver cabinet is gone! And the tube is filled to top with concrete. covered in a couple inches of dirt. Flat as an empty field.
It's everybody's lucky day. A former ATT employee just posted a PHENOMENAL full tour of one of these bunkers, and it is indeed incredible. It's on RUclips.
Ron From Atlas Survivol shelters just posted a tour of a AT&T bunker on his RUclips page. They are huge. I have seen other videos in the past on these as well
I’m going to have to ask my uncle what he’s seen. He worked in telecom for years until he retired. He got training in the Army when he left home as a young man and that was his specialty while he served. He’s told me all kinds of interesting things but I never was aware of these buildings so I never asked him.
I worked at a surface AA&T TD-2 (4 GHz) microwave site 1970 thru 1977....Excellent training using Unbelievable $$ High quality Bell Labs/Western Electric test equipment....This was all Planar Triode vacuum Tube technology using Silver Plated/Copper tuned Cavity resonators routinely Hand tuned to achieve sweep 20 MHz, 0.2 dBm Bandwidth flat, 4 GHz FM at required S/N rf power level....Challenging precision work Environment for this at time 20 yr old !! .....Lots of memories keeping good Agc in all weather conditions.....
That is pretty exciting sounding! Thanks for sharing the details here & feel free to read through the comments many other Bell employees have shown up in this comment section for this video, I am just soaking in the details and learning! PS One side of my family had 3 Bell employees, but only as 2 operators and 1 lineman, Thanks for watching!
Interesting Tom, I started in 1970 and worked several MW Relay sites in Oklahoma. We had portable tower/antenna systems to go back up with after a nuclear exchange to restore critical circuits.
The site you got video of is just a TD-2 microwave site. No bunker underground there. The bunkers had massive ventilation pits for the gigantic HVAC systems and to supply the very large diesel generators. In the early 90’s I did “tear out” work in these sites, removing old obsolete equipment. The 2 bunkers I spent the most time in were Ellisville, Florida and Windermere, Florida (Orlando metro). This is the address for Ellisville: 3050 SE County Road 18 Lake City, FL 32025 United States THAT is what a bunker looks like (note: this one had an external building addition done about 20 years ago. It’s no longer fully underground).
Thanks for the info and for checking it out! Yes I am going to make an updated video to correct myself: A.) I did find in the History of the 773rd radar Squadron Historical records obtained by FOIA, I saw that these was a TD-2 tower, and actually found a picture of the tower with the horns, and I noticed there were 2 instead of 4, does the name have anything to do with the amount of horns? B.) A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine was the first to point out there is no CoAxial hub / Bunker below, but there is a Air Force cold war Fallout shelter below this building, which was guarded by State police officer for decades who lived in this building when it was a state park. He actually arrested us for trespassing in the state the park. I suppose that is why I can not access that one part of the building. On top of that I found some very interesting duties, different than most LongLines sites: they handled Fine Grain Video Processing to receive the radar data from the FST-2 computer, a super large vacuum tube computer in the Ops building across site, and then the TD-2 would send the SAGE radar data off to the Direction Center via the Skyway! Bell techs also ran the ALRI and Tropospheric scatter on site, and there were phone switch / hub's in 4 of the buildings on base. I am still trying to figure it all out. Thank You again for the comment!
@@montaukisstrange, "TD-2" is the name / specification for the microwave radio signals handled at the facility; it has nothing to do with the number of horn antennas. "TD-2" was preceded by "TD" and followed by "TH" in terms of development history. This was all analog radio, first using vacuum tubes and later some solid-state components. The system employed frequency division multiplexing providing hundreds of voice channels (or a couple of television signals) within each broadband signal. Western Electric was able to double the capacity by implementing vertical and horizonal polarization of the radio signals. In the mid-70s they successfully started using single sideband (SSB) sending two different signals on each of the two bands (upper and lower) simultaneously. In terms of number of horns, a tower near where I grew up in Upstate New York had seven horns. It was a 3-way junction, 2 horns heading to Buffalo, Albany, and Pittsburgh, respectively. The 7th horn branched off the serve a local Class 4 Toll Tandem.
Excellent!! There may have been an installation like this sans tower in Piscataway NJ in the 70s. A small white painted cinder block building with a bunch of underground cable markers surrounding it. A friend who’s Dad worked for AT&T Long Lines said it was an entrance to an underground Telco facility. The building was much smaller than the one here.
Very well done Brian and I've told you before I've seen a couple in southern Ontario, and your map you displayed at the beginning of your video I paused and the sites I've seen where shown in your map and there's one very near shown on your map with a road named Termaine I'm 10 minutes from that one and there similar to the one's that you posted I'lll try and take some photo's of them for comparison possible and now I just got a DJI Mini 3 pro drone and they are on sale before Christmas so my wife got me one after my surgery and made for a great gift for my Birthday Thank you for the video it's got my wheels turning after seeing your map showing spots in Ontario also!
Yes you have! I have talked about making this for a whole now, aI figured it would be a good video to get back into the swing of things with. The drone is an amazing idea for you! I hope you can "get out there" to some degree with the drone and get some exploring in any way you can! Thanks Gavin always appreciate the comment and you watching!
You had mentioned you were working on this before, and I had always wondered about these buildings. My grandmother worked for Southern Bell in an imposing tower with the microwave antennas on the top. Now I know why they were built like bunkers. You're very thorough in documenting this with excellent photos. How about those boxes of Converse?! If Ma Bell was so important to defense and communications it makes you wonder why congress deregulated the phone companies in the 80's.
Hey Ryan thanks for that article! Yeah the Converse were quite a shock to see, at least they would be down there surviving in style! Yeah it was cool to find out how fiber optics came and blew the microwave relay system out of the water in the early 80's, i remember they deregulated everything around that time, interesting! Thanks for the awesome comment and for sharing that!
@@montaukisstrange Yes that was the plan. They even went to schools with a demo fiber optic cable bundle to show kids how it worked. My mom's last job with the phone company was drafting jobs to install it. They installed the fiber networks only to be dissolved so other companies could continue to profit off of AT&T's and Bells' work.
the "deregulation was mandated by Judge Harold Greene in 1982 per a lawsuit by the 12 or 13 major "RBOCS" - Regional Bell Operating Companies - (NY Bell, New England bell, Southern bell, Chesapeake and Potomac, Ohio Bell, etc.) against the "monopoly - AT&T. ...The RBOCS wanted to purchase equipment from manufacturers other than - "Western Electric" - AT&T's manufacturing division. AT&T's position was - other manufacturers equipment wouldn't be compatible & would compromise the system, (viewed in the 1940's to 1980's as a "Strategic national defense Network" . AT&T lost the lawsuit. it had a 10 year period after 1985 that it had to divest itself from Western Electric - - the ruling : an "operating company" (ie: AT&T) could not be a "operating AND a Manufacturing company.... which created the spin-off of Lucent Technologies from AT&T in 1996. after the ruling, the RBOCs began purchasing / integrating equipment from other manufacturers. another implication of the lawsuit was many of the independent RBOCS merged together to create mini monopolies, ie Bell Atlantic accreted several RBOCS -( c&p, nj bell, bell of philly, ny bell, ne bell) - subsequentially, bell Atlantic became Verizon.
Hey Brian! I remember Preston mentioning antenna's that just laid ON the ground. He chuckeled a bit when he said it and added that they often worked better than the other's! Have you been able to locate any of those as of yet? When I heard him say that, it brought to my mind something I had seen on the w a y back machine - back in the day (allegedly) before radar and such when prop planes were "modern" they set up a system for pilots to navigate manually. It was literally h u g e "arrows" laid out ON the ground set up so the pilots could just look out their windows and find the direction of whatever nearby city. They said these things were all across the country! The video I saw this on packaged that as a part of forgotten about history. 🤔 Makes me wonder if its related?!! Considering Teslas works, this makes a LOT of sense! Coincidentally 🙄 today Ive learned the museum of his works violently burned to the ground. That makes me soooo angry! (Insert SURPURLATIVES here) Brian I cannot thank you enough for all the fantastic and outstanding work you do!! I ABSOLUTELY love your painstaking attention to detail!! Well done!!
Hello Angel! Thanks for the awesome comment! No I have not heard of that but now that you mentioned it I am definitely very curious about the idea! Yes it does remind me of Tesla in the sense that the antennae would be on the ground, perpendicular to what we would normally see... very cool! Thanks for the feedback too! That always encourages me and gives me inspiration for sure! As far the Tesla Science Center / Tesla's former Wardenclyffe Lab and site of the free energy tower - the fire was devastating to us all! I heard the next AM and have passed it several times since to check the damage. I did promise an update and the best news I read is that not all was lost and they are very positive and hopeful about continuing on with the museum! Thanks again Angel, always great to hear your thoughts & have a great weekend!
The large arrows on the ground you mentioned are part of the FAA's very old "Visual Airway System." It consisted of large concrete arrows that, at the time, were painted for visibility against the contrast of the terrain. In addition to the arrows, there were also light towers in order to be able to use the system at night. In some parts of the US (particularly Montana) the Visual Airway System was maintained into the 1990's. I've been an airline pilot since 1989. I used to enjoy watching the lights from the VAS when flying over Montana at night during the '90's. But technology marches ever forward, and navigation aids like the VAS, NDB's, etc are all relics of the past now.
Back when American Telephone & Telegraph Company was a monopoly, there was always plenty of money available to build these unbelievably expensive microwave repeater stations every 30 miles from North to South and East to West. Since AT&T Long Lines carried ALL U.S. Government communications along with ALL military circuits including radar, the Federal Government was more than happy to pay their monthly “phone” bill. Unfortunately, the AT&T company that most of us are familiar with today is NOTHING like the Long Lines division that I worked for. What is shown in this video is a testament to the genius that existed back in the 60’s, 70’s, of the company. With the advent of the Laser from Bell Labs and the invaluable assistance of Corning Glass Works, the way we communicate around the country and around the world has changed forever.
True a satellite war would make those facilities advantageous again. As many things taken for granted would vanish. Placing the fiber network into the front…
I'm a retired USAF Electronic Warfare systems analyst and this facility looks like it might be part of the GWEN network (AN/URC-117 Ground Wave Emergency Network.) There is an absolutely fail-safe method for discovering if there is an underground bunker complex on this site; 3D seismic underground investigation equipment. There is a ton of this technology that is available, and it ain't cheap, but perhaps you could get hold of some promising young PhD candidate at a Geo-Physics research facility and get them to come out and do an underground 3D survey. Good Luck and I really enjoyed this video.
Hey Thank You so much for the comment! I meant to get back to this sooner. I have heard of GWEN once or twice in reading, but that is Fascinating. I thought this may have been a Coaxial hub for AT&T and later found additional documentation that this site was mainly used for the Semi Automatic Ground Environment Radar at the Montauk Air Force Station, the radar was the AN/FPS-35 and the Operations building (a former MIT lab that was used in the Cape cod System and later the ESS - which eventually led to the creation of the internet / Arpanet) The Ops building originally housed the Whirlwind computer and later BUIC II and III, and the FSQ-7 data transmitter would transmit the radar data across the base where it was received at this Telco building, aka the Longlines building, and then transmitted or relayed to other LongLines sites via the TD-2 microwave tower (de-horned and now a cell tower) and it would go to the direction center (DC) at Mcguire AFB. I found fallout shelters exist on this base, especially at all the integral parts of the system like this facility. Thanks again for the comment & for watching!!
@@montaukisstrange The Electronic Warfare Shop I worked in had hundreds of systems strewn all over the Avionics branch as well as different systems all over base. I also did an intense amount of classified research while I was at The Hewes Hall School of Electronic Warfare where I first came to know GWEN. She was an early version of the World Wide Web, classified and tied directly to the Strategic Air Command's E-3A Looking Glass - Airborne Nuclear Command Post (ABNCP) and the E-4b National Emergency Airborne Command Post (NEACP). These were the airborne counterparts to GWEN. The 55th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing operated all the RC-135 Rivet Joint ELINT aircraft as well as a newer integrated Tactical variant of Looking Glass, the EC-130E Compass Call - Airborne Electronic Warfare Battle Command Post. I believe that it was the Compass Call aircraft that put an end to most of the tactical early warning facilities along with the deployment of the MILSTAR satellite array which made the LongLines microwave relays obsolete. Thanks again for your work, I love these old sites!
@@montaukisstrange Just a footnote, I was almost selected by the Physics department at the University I worked for to go to Alaska and retrieve the Klystron tubes from old DEW line AN/FPS-19 Early Warning Radars. These tubes are still operating as the High Frequency power supply for our linear accelerator. It would have been awesome...
@@dellwood17 Wow! That is incredible! I used to always stare at pics of the Radomes on the DEW line! Also i have heard of people removing the Klystron tubes, and repairing them at MAFS, I have the official base history documents for 1958-1973 that were shared by a Veteran of the 773rd Radar Squadron, attained by FOIA request. I had so many technical details I am still trying to learn as best I can. I think this Klystron was in the Tropospheric Scatter building that relayed the data to and from Texas Tower #3 out on the Nantucket Shoals. I appreciate all of the information and technical knowledge, I am learning as best I can. I do have one Thyratron Tube intact with the Copper heat sink on the bottom. I guess it was to modulate the pulses of microwave radar (?) for frequency diversity or oscillation. The had a lot of discussion of Anti-jamming equipment as well in that document and I think they even installed Cryptographic equipment. The document contained a lot of Acronyms you would definitely recognize. Thanks again for all the details, it is very much appreciated!
Great video! Takes me back to being stationed in Germany in the Army 1972 - 73 at a combined Army Air Force communication site. The Air Force guys had a big microwave tower with the old-style feed horns from back in the day. I was Army signal Corps on the other side of the fence, a completely mobile communications site working out of 45 foot trailers and many small equipment huts mounted on 2 1/2 ton trucks. Look forward to watching more of your videos!
Wow That is awesome, great comment Thanks I appreciate you watching as well! Yes thats very interesting, I have had to study many of the Signal Corps equipment placement at Montauk like the Search Lights, AntiAircraft positions, BES, BC, and FC stations, and the entire coastal defense artillery's communications cable runs were everywhere, so much cable and so many phone lines! I am still trying to figure out where the Signal Operations Room would be at Montauk, but it is fascinating trying to learn how everything works. Anyways, I am hoping like minded folks can share and talk with each other here, if they wanted. Anyways Thanks again!
That equipment is part of a Number 5 Crossbar electromechanical Bell system switch/exchange. I’m confident that wasn’t RAM this system predated that. I didn’t see any microwave longlines transmission equipment that would have been used in ATT long lines. I’m pretty sure this is just a switch. The actual longlines microwave sites had to have massive ventilation ducts. Those would have been massive pits like at a minimum of 20 feet by 20 feet wide. It would suck in air and it would go to an evaporator cooler and dissipate heat with big round baffles that could close if the air were to become contaminated with radiation. Another thing to look for is the presence of waveguides, rectangular copper ducts that would go in and out of the building. That picture you showed of the cylindrical concrete thing with a small dome on it was a gamma ray detector that were present at those sites - if it had that it would have been highly likely that it would of been some kind of long lines site. The picture you showed of the tower with horns on it were definitely from a microwave relay site. The tower shown in the video definitely had contemporary cell tower comms. The source material of your research was pretty interesting. This infrastructure is fascinating.
Also check out Seattle connections museum - they have one of the last working number 5 crossbar switches that they maintain for the sake of exhibiting this technology.
Hmmm very interesting! Thanks for the comment and for watching! So the 256 magnetic core RAM was actually invented for the SAGE system and Montauk was one of the very first SAGE sites and even took part in ESS Experimental SAGE System and Cape Cod System, the very beginnings of the internet in 1955 actually it all traces back to SAGE. Anyways this Longlines site Montauk is on the Longlines location maps, and is in all the military historical records as TELCO, ATT building and definitely had a TD-5 Microwave relay with horns atop that tower, I have old pics before they were de-horned. This site is very unique as it received data from across the base, from the AN/FSQ-7 in the SAGE Annex and then sent the data along to the Direction Center. I can not figure out where the power source was, each redundant system had commercial power, and generators, and a fallout shelter (which explains the part of the building we can not access) and there were 2 power plants on base, 1 coal and 1 diesel, and I can not tell if this is connected to them, also, part of this building was tied to GATR ground to air radio as well. Half my family worked for ma Bell and they have no clue, and Bell had many other responsibilities at this site, such as ALRI, and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to Texas towers #3 in the ocean, it's very interesting and everyones information is really helping to figure it out! Thanks again!
I have some pictures and videos of a few in CT. I can try and grab some fresh videos of one of the bigger ones we have. The bunker is completely flooded, the water is crystal clear and stagnant, you cant tell there is water there until you start to walk down and get your feet wet. Lots of old equipment still exists within some of them. Very cool pieces of history we have.
@giovannivincent6599 Hey thats awesome! Thanks for watching, and for sharing! Wow yeah that sounds like the radar tower at Montauk, I tied a glow stick to a rock and threw it down in the flooded basement a few videos back, and it got hung up on the ledge. Going to go back with underwater camera and selfie stick and try to film with some kind of underwater flashlight, it should be an 18' basement as I have real estate pics from an identical tower... 1 of 24 built the same. Anyways If you did get footage be sure to come back and let me know, and you can drop thelink here because a lot of Bell AT&T techs are showing up which could probably answer any other questions about these sites! I only know this one because Montauk, Camp Hero, Montauk Air Force Station, is my specialty! But i pretty much explore everything on Long Island. I would love to see any footage of these sites. Thanks again for the info!
@@bobstaurovsky3506google search “AT&T longline map”, it’s quite eye opening actually seeing where ALL of these bunkers are. My state of Illinois has HUNDREDS! It should be the first link and has the full interactive map.
Very cool vid. We have an old Microwave tower and building like that on top of a hill about 35 minute drive from my house in Georgia. It seems to have been sold off and is a private commercial property now. I thought the microwave communication towers were mostly N.S. railway, at least down here, they used their own microwave phone system long after cell phones became a thing.
The de-regulation was only of the Bell System. Nobody challenged AT&T Long Lines until MCI came along. At that point you had a choice for your long distance carrier.
They could hear a pin drop! The fiber Optics tried to outdo the Microwave and CoAx..and they did, but the tried and true still remain, and are our redundant back ups! Honestly I wish these were kept up to date, everyone wants to tour an underground building! Its a no brainer imo, but maybe thats just people like us! Nevertheless I stand by this notion haha Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange The 'pin drop' was from Sprint. As far as Coax, yes it is still used, but short haul for the most part. Microwave, although digital now, still has bandwidth and distance limits that are no where near what is required in today's communications arena. The speeds of today's pluggable optics are unreal, and things can be tuned for different colors or NM and filtered through optic multiplexers. My old company was using pluggable 400g optics that inserted directly into router cards and were good for 80km. (50 miles) Start running things through the DWDM regenerators, with RAMAN amplifiers, a dispersion compensation, you are into the terabytes over a single pair. there are bi-directional systems, the the fiber cable densities are now ribbon, and outside plant cables were in the 3400 range. The last 20 years has been unbelievable, (Oh yeah,,30yrs MCI, then 12 years Time Warner/Charter)
Bell Systems is AT&T . AT&T but out of Bell Systems and Western Electric in 1982. IDK about there but Bell Systems used to have sub stations across America and Western Electric did the installation and uninstall of these stations. Most where decommissioned around 1986. I only know of 2 that have a underground bunker in them. One I been down in that was shared with the US Corp of Engineers and it was a WW 2 shelter and had underground a giant water turbine generator for emergency electric. It big enough that a tractor trailer could be driven past it.
Hey yes I was definitely looking for a Gamma ray detector, I saw a picture of one and realized I see one all the time when I pass by Grummans F-14 factory aka Naval weapons plant, That and I was looking for a breathing vent for an underground, but just found out this site may have no COAX so maybe just a shelter down there, if anything. Thanks for watching!
I just realized the Gamma ray detector you meant is in the front of the vent I was talking about at 12:10 the air vent is flush with the ground and is circular, and is behind the fence. Thanks for helping me figure this out!
Some cool stuff. I live near the horn tower in Norwalk Ct. The horns are gone but the tower has been a local landmark forever. Next time I go by the area I should look for traces of other structures... and perhaps aerial shots might show construction, because they were taken about every 10 years since the 1930s.
Hey Rupe I think that sounds like a great idea! I did not know they preserved the horns in Norwalk, I just had a friend send me pics of the Asheville NC tower and they preserved it in the center of town, with additional tower constructed around it to protect it. This one I show at Montauk was de-horned sometime in the early 1980s. Good luck in your local searches, I always use the old aerials to find out a ton of info at Montauk, Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange As I said, the horns are gone circa the cell phone push, but the tower is there. I was told it's over 300 ft tall. My sister does cell phone tower site research for installations on old churches, and existing structures, like water towers. She has access to many historical web sites regarding each location. She's also a history buff so certain details are her thing in her mind.
@@rupe53 That's awesome! Yeah it is surprising, but it seems in many cases poor records were kept of historic infrastructure. It sounds like a pretty cool job for sure! I would love to have access to those kind of data searches / history sites! I am definitely interested the technology as well as the infrastructure below.
@@montaukisstrange she has been doing this job for many years, so much of it is out there to be had or bookmarked once you find it. Quite a bit is like reading old property deeds, where the boarder is Smith on one side and Jones on the other... but then you stumble on tid-bits of good stuff where the property had one use and got changed to another. Knowing the town's history can play a role in figuring things out at a given time. We've got transmitters on a property locally, but looking closer shows a round building, which originally had a radar dish on the roof for early warning of air strikes. If you piece it together, it's also the highest point in town, which is still an advantage even though it's 12 miles from the coast. Yup, another piece of cold war technology. Searching the FCC licensees on that tower says town govt and cell phones, but searching back also shows an FM station, an AM station, and various other uses. A friend says that back in the day of "daytime only" use kids would climb the tower at night to view NYC some 50 miles away.
@@rupe53 Oh man, all I have to say is, i have not been around as much because I have been writing voraciously to finish this book about Camp Hero I have been writing for 4 years and hoping to print next month, and by the way you describe your sources, are almost identical to the way I like to completely absorb every resource available! ha I hope to see you guys again then, I'm interested in what you both find also, the kind of minds that could help me with certain mysteries and mostly I just like to share what I found. Good stuff!
Bro, you got to get to the communications Museum in Seattle Washington. They have all working switching equipment from the 1800s to the 1990s for visitors to play with!!!! It’s so cool!!!! They’re only open on Sundays though! So plan accordingly!
As a summer resident of Montauk since 1985 I can tell you Montauk definitely has a strange vibe about it while also having one of the most calming effects on a person , it was definitely way better in the 80s and early 90s but like everywhere else it has grown with the times , if you want one of the most relaxing times of your life with a little bit of mystery and intrigue then Montauk is the place to visit.
Well said! Been going my whole life since the 1980s up to 10 days ago. It's my favorite place, but you pretty much summed it up perfectly! Thanks for watching & the comment!
Hahah I agree! Thank You, and yes I am trying to stop getting so excited I am terrible at swinging that camera around and talking with my hands (while holding the camera lol) Appreciate you watching!
Thanks so much! Appreciate you watching! I just met a smaller channel that has a walk through underground levels of an AT&T Bunker and I told him I would share it, but if you want to check it out first ruclips.net/video/4H8ogjvjS7s/видео.html
no stair case or elevator there, the racks would be under ground, there would be ventilation shaft blast detectors, that building doesn't even have a filtration intake on roof you found at manned hardened sites
Yes Thank You I have since been corrected by several ex Bell employees, and I realize now there is no CoAx bunker, but there are many unique features as this was also a part of SAGE and this is on a former Air Force radar base, also there was a fallout shelter as I found it in the base records, but i was wrong about the AT&T longlines bunkers that I showed examples of, but hey I love to learn and this is fascinating! My main interest is in this base, but I try to understand all of the structures and the tech behind them. I appreciate your info and thanks for watching!
Thank You! Appreciate that! Also, I am not sure about the first Television towers in the UK, but that would be a clue... but in the US, Alfred Lee Loomis built his own microwave radar, for MIT, only after observing the new technology developed in the UK first! These AT&T Longlines TD-2 towers are essentially towers that emit Microwave transmissions, so is the Montauk radar, the SAGE AN/FPS-35, so it all kinds of originates from the UK, then MIT, and they tested and rolled out a lot of the RADlabs stuff at Montauk with the Cape Cod system, which was the very beginnings of the internet. This site was ultra important for military reasons as well! US Army, Air Force, Navy & Coast Guard all on site at one point. Then the legends lore and real strangeness about this area in general, the inspiration for the show "Stranger tHINGS" Thanks for watching & the comment!
i worked at AT&T/Bell Labs Lucent in 90's have been to 2 facilities like you describe one in NWNJ now owned by Iron Mountain logistics a 5 story underground facility its sole purpose was to protect phone system during nuclear attack the one here was built because of proximity to Picatinny Arsenal
Hey Dude Oh man thats awesome! Yeah I have seen a lot of re-purposing as Server centers, or even seed banks. I just found out Montauk did not have the Coax bunker, but was unique in that it was a part of the SAGE radar system on this Air Force Base and used the TD5 microwave repeater to transmit data to the direction centers, and other Bell technicians ran the aALRI site here, as well as the Tropspheric Scatter antennae and building, that communicated with the Texas Towers. I am slowly learning the old tech. Very cool Thanks for watching & the comment!
Thing is AT&T is still totally building stuff like this, A friend of mine works construction and was recently doing a job for AT&T running ac for the surface building of a massive bunker complex. Not sure if it was a new bunker or an old bunker or what they would be using it for but it was fairly cool.
Thanks for the amazing information! You are the first person to suggest this, and it really makes sense to me! I wonder if they are making safeguards for fiber optics? Possibly building with room to expand with future technologies like quartz crystal memory databanks or something, but either way I think you are probably right! Thanks for watching & the comment!
@@gregkrueger331 Yes I believe it is 33 Thomas Street the NSA building is a former Long Lines you are right! Also I noticed the similarity in the construction to the iconic Montauk SAGE Radar tower, the AN/FPS-35 has no windows either! Thanks for mentioning that!
During the 70's, a buddy and I explored all the buildings at Camp Hero except for the radar building which at that time was still active, the 8-tracks would pickup the radar sweeps as they went past us.
Helloo Montauk Is Strange watching the video I was wondering if you happened to peek behind those pictures on the wall at the staircase ? The pictures on the wall did you happen to look behind any of them? Just wondering.. thank you for the video..
Heloooo Susie! Thanks for checking out the video! I did not get to check them because I used those as an example from similar facilities, but could not get underground here. They are all built similarly though. Now onto your picture idea - That is brilliant! I will probably look behind every picture I find now! 🔍lol but seriously, I just might! 😁
Wow I have recovered 24k plated gold military pins/ contacts but 999 Palladium would be an amazing electrical connection for sure! So Interesting - Not even my refining friends know about that! Thanks for watching
the "computer room" looks to be the relay bays for a 1A electronic switch or #5 crossbar and the test switchboard. the circuit cards were probably resistor packs not ram -to the right is the circuit distribution frame. .. local circuits would be "peeled-off' of the microwave td2y carrier for local service (the microwave system was retired around 1990/92 , the antenna feed horns would have sat atop the red/white tower-shown at 11:44... I don't see any of the microwave waveguide or the RF receivers / amplifiers in your photos of the 'computer room'.... any equipment in earthquake zones or underground would have been mounted on springs - seen at 19:04 & 19:27.
Thanks for all the details! Yes I have since found out from the telephone museum in Maine that there was no CoAxial bunker at this site, or even the others in this video. I will correct all future details going forward. The Bomb shelter I was referring to is an Air Force fallout shelter built in 1961, that has one on record in this building but I can not access that part, and neither can the parks people apparently. This building was built in 1955 and supported the Transmitter and Receiver sites and would receive data from the FSQ-7 data transmitter across base (This is on a military base that was closed in 1981) also it is very unique as far as Longlines sites, because it was part of a SAGE radar site (Semi Automatic Ground Environment) and they had been hooked into the Whirlwind computer as MIT had their own building on site to test the Cape Cod System and ESS. Then they had the BUIC computer and later BUIC II and BUIC III. Also Bell labs technicians were on site in 1962 to run the ALRI (one of 4 sites on east coast to talk to the Lockheed EC121) and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to the Texas Towers #3. I got all this info from FOIA and military documents from the veterans of the 773RD radar squadron, which this AT&T building was a part of. I do not think they served the public at all. The tower was de-horned in 1969. I have a lot of history but you definitely gave me a lot of technology to look up! Thanks! I am doing my best to understand it. The fallout facilities are most likely small, they built about 6 of them on base, between 1961-1963. Do you think this equipment had a power source in the building (generators etc)? or do you think they would have been tied into one of the power plants on base? Either way I appreciate you watching & your very helpful comment!
I use to hang out on top of an old long lines site in CT. The same old maintenance worker use to kick me and my buddies off the tower platform, but was always super cool about it. This was way back in the late 90's when they still had the giant Western Electric horn antennas. There was a time for about 15 years when a lot of them sat dormant, eventually being sold to the big tower company that removed the horn antennas to make room for cellular equipment.
One reason I would not accept the offer! Actually this man has been on TV and the NY Post as a victim of the Montauk Project, and is kind of well known, I just could not show his identity. However it would not be the first time I worked with possible agents or hirelings to try and find out and share information about this... You should see the guys that took me to Brooklyn to find out what was on the Reel to Reel we found... now that was sketchy af! Thanks for watching & the comment!
I recently visited the last two Nike / atlas sites here on Long Island NY....the in lido Beach is still quite visible and your able to see where each missile silo was , the one in Brooksville still shows evidence of the silos as well, steel diamond plate is covering the hatch's and silo openings ......I couldn't get down into anything but there are some small openings at the lido Beach site you can peek inside , looked like a lot of water has gotten into it !!!!!....😮☢️
Hey Bugs! Yeah I recently saw Two pretty close together off the LIE somewhere around Huntington area... It's amazing how many of these there are across the country on that first map I showed. Then to start thinking about how much money went into it all! Thanks for checking it out!
I once stumbled upon a former long lines facility in PA by shear accident (road trip, missed a turn and went straight on without cell service until I spotted the tower on the side of the road) it was seemingly an above ground facility as it was completely windowless and pretty clearly reinforced, and it was in such a remote location that there was no grafitti on the building. despite signs saying it was repurposed to a privately owned cell tower, old AT&T signs were still present (the 1982-1996 logo from what I can identify). if the size of that facility is anything to go off of, assuming it was a strictly above ground bunker and not an underground one, it's likely whatever's underground would certainly be quite a bit of space! if I ever had the chance I would love to see inside, but from what I can tell the whole building no longer serves any purpose
It’s impossible but I’ve always wanted a microwave horn as a souvenir when Bell Canada took some of there’s down from a tower close to where I live. They’ve been up there ever since I can remember. I used to see the tower from a distance then we moved closer to it and I was able to see it better. It was the only one of its kind that had those horns. From Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Where we lived in West VIrginia, near Charlestown (not Charleston) you could see a place we called the "Bald Spot On The Mountain". My Dad asked a guy he knew that worked at Weather Mountain, Va and his comment was, don't ask. I suspect it was one of these...
Oh wow sounds interesting! Did it have a big steel tower nearby? Some seem to have been converted into TV towers, and even cell towers, but otherwise I know Va. has quite a lot of cool underground spots. Thanks for checking it out & the comment!
Back in the early to mid 90s I worked for the company that decommissioned the underground fule tanks for the backup generators at the AT&T microwave sights in Oregon and Washington. At the sight on top of mount hood in Oregon I was told by the on sight AT&T employee that the tower with the horn antennas on it were designed to bend over and stand back up to reconnect with the network if hit by a blast from a nucular bomb. Now I'm curious if we were ever standing and working above any bunkers on any of the sights I worked on! Would sure love to find out!😁😉
After you opened the hatch you pointed to a door .any reason why you couldn’t open that door to see if it led to a stair or elevator ? Does the fact that the log book had entry dates up until 1982 mean anything regarding the overall operation of the base ? I forget when they supposedly closed the base !Amazing history Awesome !
Hey George! Yeah i asked if we could get into that door but he never had the key, he said none of them did! Same thing for the apmt entrance on the other side. The dates pretty much line up perfectly. The radar was replaced with the Riverhead radome in 81, the base was abandoned in 83, but they started scaling down in 82, a few people stayed at the GATR building until early 84. Thank You for watching glad you liked!
Wow ! I am sure you too want to get into these doors .what is the likely hood of getting access ? That’s very suspicious not being able to get entry. I always thought this building was highly suspect . Imagine if this connects to a much larger underground system ! Maybe you can do another remote viewing if this building ? Thanks again !
@@georgea2108 Yes i sure do! I will do my best to ask permission in a purely historical interest and see if they will allow it...it's worth a try. I did not mention it, but this was someone who was on Travel Channel's Strange World show on Montauk with me, and another show on CW network on Montauk, with me as well, that's how we met, but he is a lifelong resident of Montauk and was basically like one of the kids on #strangerthings riding his bike into Camp Hero in 1984 with other local kids. He was involved in the project, met w Preston etc. I just could not say his name for many reasons, no matter how many extra views it might bring, he does not really want the attention. I figure it was nice enough for him to let me look and document! Yes I can definitely see them turning cold war fallout shelter spoace into Lab space, and then connecting said expanded spaces, I had the same thought! Also a new Remote Viewing is in order! I will let you know soon in case you guys want to give it a shot. Thanks George, enjoy the weekend, keep me posted!
@@georgea2108 Ha ok Good, I knew you would! Ok cool I am going to work on that today, I have a lot of other locations of interest as well, and a bunch of stuff of interest other i should have finished already... hopefully this weekend!
Any security or police i would be saying, this is your planet, you family, you friends your life too, don't you want the truth, you are a human being before anything else! Stand up for that.❤.
Yes, there were a few occasions we tried to reason with them, other times we just escaped to explore another day, but you are right - the right diplomacy can definitely change one mind at a time if done thoughtfully. Even planting a seed / an idea, can grow into a changed mind! Thanks again Megs for watching & sharing your thoughts on this!
Surly must be places like this . We should ask the chinese balloon. 😊 Thanks for sharing did not know anything about this exept for what mike has shared . And he sent me over to your channel .
😂Indeed! Hey SouthernGrits!! gtsy here! I recognize you from Mike's channel, since the first day I have been there. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out! Much appreciated, enjoy the day : )
Hey Thanks Knighthawks! Yeah I suppose, I made friends with him when we were both on the same TV show on Travel channel, then again another show on CW it turns out he is one of those kids who use to ride his bike into Camp Hero as a kid just after it closed for good, and truly believes he was involved as well, he is a Montauk local and he was just about to retire so I could not show it for a little while... but yeah it took the right timing to seize the opportunity, and I did not want to miss the chance! I would love to get permission again, it does not hurt to ask, but I do not think the next person in line will be as sympathetic to the idea! Thanks again man for the feedback - much appreciated!
Ah wow what a great opportunity. Great vid very informative! I gotta take the ride out there to explroe more now that ticks and traffic are gone @@montaukisstrange
From a L.E. angle this is might have been their wiretap room.. Thus why the State Trooper was there and the book was a sign in log which is common for Police bosses to sign in when doing inspection of a facility.. Basically he was checking in on the cops that were there.
Thanks for the very useful insights! Piecing history back together takes every bit of information and then some, and still I keep correcting the info I already put out. I appreciate it & Thanks for watching!
I remember an interview with Al Bielek & Preston Nichols on Art Bell back in the day claiming wild conspiracy theories about this place and mind control and the Philadelphia experiment.
Point taken! It's not my favorite track either, using songs that wont give me a strike from YT, that and I do not like to use the same song twice. I can always use more work on my mixing levels between voice and music, and I wear headphones which is not the same for those playing through speakers. Also, I may have been a little self concious about my voice that day lol I was never really liking the sound of my own voice in recordings if that makes sense. Appreciate you watching either way!
There are a least 3 within half an hour from me and numerous other inactive and abandoned bunkers, but the city keeps them monitored and locked up making urbexing them near impossible. I've seen the inside of at least two, with permission. I was blindfolded to see one that was still in operation. I t can house up to 2500 locals in a civil emergency who are chosen by lottery. There are 250 pre-chosen by expertise.
Good eye! I am not sure what that was, I will have to look on old satellite images to see if there is a structure there. Everytime I pass this building I always look and there is always a vehicle parked there, and I no longer know anyone at the park (the guy who let me in also well known in Montauk Project lore, but I did not name him or show his face really) he let me in in his last 2 months working there before retiring after 20 years! I would love to go back and check. Thanks for the comment & for watching!
Hey Thanks, I think you mean the Riverhead site right? Or maybe you meant the mini dome on top of the AN/FPS-26 Tower? (that was the metal tower painted in in Day Orange) This was an Air Force base, but NOAA may have operated that small dome on the roof next to the main Radome - because the color day orange is a NOAA color if I remember correctly. The 4 Radomes at Montauk were AN/FPS-3 (long range search radar), AN/FPS-5 (Height Finder) all microwave, and then replaced with a pair of AN/FPS 6 HF and then the 3 was replaced with one of the first AN/FPS-20s Long Range Search Radar. I thought the riverhead site was a Doppler! Thanks for the comment
Wow that is amazing! Lot's of hard work involved I am sure. Thanks for sharing! Lot's of great comments from former Long Lines and AT&T Bell employees here, which is cool to see. Appreciate you watching!
@@montaukisstrange you’re welcome. I’m always curious what they will do with all those old sites. Didn’t know they had bunkers back then. We would have looked ourselves.
So do they all have like a bunker? I have one out in a pasture near my farm and it has the big tower with a build but it’s smaller than this building. I’ve wanted to go in in since I was a kid but after I actually found out what they were I REALLY want to explore it 😅
Hey, Thanks for checking it out! No unfortunately I found out they all do not have a Coaxial Hub (giant underground bunker, hardened with everything mounted on springs). It turns out those are more rare, but yes, a small building can hide a massive underground, as the example in this video is actually one of the Coax bunkers! So the best way to check the one by you, is the map I shared, its small, but it is online and you can look to see if there is one, but the tower is a giveaway. Then you could always post the location and many AT&T or Bell techs are seeing this video and could probably answer! I am learning a whole bunch of stuff I never planned to, and in turn, I am figuring out this site: Montauk, which Does have an underground bunker, but it was built for the Air Force as a fallout shelter. Also, this former military base is what Stranger Things is based on! So there is a little more going on at this site than usual. I would love to find a deep coax bunker and maybe you have one near you, that would be awesome & pretty lucky to see inside! Thanks for sharing, and for watching!
@@freedomisntfree_44 Thank You! Yeah you are probably right about that spot. I found one in Stapelton, or a YT video at least to link to. Otherwise I cant really post one or I would share that map for you. This video hs one in Al. pretty cool ruclips.net/video/etLsd1BEh4c/видео.html
Montauk wasn't a bunker site. It was a Microwave endpoint. The 'raised floor" was to access the incoming trunk cables to feed the local telephone carrier. That was a semi common thing with these sites. Bunkers were far more rare and only a small percentage of the sites with the iconic 4 legged horned towers had bunkers.
There's a movie on channel white phosphorus picture that I am watching right now, that I have seen before, but I started watching at the middle of it (from my best reckoning), and Mr. Bielek, as well as another obvious New Yorker (apparently an intellectual prodigy), who took part in both the Philadelphia experiment, and the Montauk youth torture disguised as experimental work, that was a direct insult to humanity.
You should do a little more research. The majority of AT&T facilities did not have underground bunkers. The buildings you are looking at are primarily above ground, they don't have underground sections. The larger buildings were hardened but had no underground bunkers. The give away for the majority of the bunkers was usually a microwave tower on a hill or mound, sometimes surrounded with a fence with one or two small buildings. If you looked around the site you would probably see a gamma detector, exhaust pipes for the generators and vents for air circulation. It usually consisted of a multi-bay garage and a small building with an overhead garage door. This building was the access to the shaft with a hoist to move heavy equipment. There were probable around 100 bunkers of varying design.
Thank You, It is not my specialty but I am learning as best I can...but this facility is much different than your average Longlines site. It most definitely has an underground bomb shelter and I found that in the official military historical records from a FOIA request done by one of the Veterans of the 773rd Radar squadron with those details. Furthermore, this building was used as part of the SAGE system which received the FSQ-7 date transmission, from the SAGE Annex across base, and forwarded on to the direction center with the TD-5 microwave relay. I was looking for the bunkers I showed in this video which were the coaxial hub I am guessing? A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine already pointed out that there are few of those, and the nearest in Hempstead, which used to be Queens long ago, this site is about 100 miles from there. I assumed there was a coax hub (bunker) in every single facilty, but I stand corrected and will no longer pass on any such info, knowing that is not the case, I prefer to know what is really down there. Anyways Bell employees were all over this base, running the ALRI, worked in the GATR Transmit & Receive buildings, and ran the Tropospheric scatter antenna to comminicate with Texas Towers 3. In WWII the Army had the Signal Corps, but when the Air Force came in, the used Bell for the communications on base. Either way I appreciate the info, and will correct my details going forward but definitely cant change this one, not to mention, no one else has ever been allowed to film inside this building and we faced arrest every time we went to explore back then. Thanks! I never knew so many former Bell employees would gather here! I enjoy all the info, and learning!
I have to Ask, My Grandfather, Was a AT&T prior Employee.. Obvious worked In these Types Of Places.. He got Parkinson's..Some Say it Was From the Korea Theater.. But, Is there Any Chance any Of this Stuff Could Have Caused Parkinson's Disease.. Believe Me, the Words Impossible Have Left my Vocabulary YEARS AGO.. I Just Want To Follow His Path,... Bec. My Knowledge of What he Was Involved With is Very Limited, Obviously..! ... Reality is, I Dont Think Anybody Is Directly Related To Misunderstood things.. I Have Had My Fair Share of Asbestos From Construction All My Life.. and im just Interested. So We Dont Make The Same Mistakes a Second Time,.. GBS Alfred Wood!! U.S. Army Korea War Vet. TF 95.
Thanks for sharing about your Grandfather, thats cool you keep his memory alive! Personally, I am not sure but I do Not think it would be from any AT&T related activities, and any theater of war has many hidden things that show up years later... Personally I can't speak for anyone, many of my family were Army, or AT&T as well. I just do not want to give you any incorrect info on something so personal but I do appreciate you asking and maybe this is the right place to find an answer from someone else as well!
Yes I guess I should have said, "only person other than the Parks Maintenance people and State Police" - or "the only Explorers of Camp Hero ever allowed in", or the "only civilian ever allowed in"... or "the only person ever allowed in that knew what it was they were looking at" would work. I have since found a ton of official documents relating to this building which was primarily used for the Air Force and not AT&T civilian use... Anyways Thank You for watching! & pointing out how that can be read by others! Good eye on the washer and dryer. Appreciate it, because I missed that all together!
@montaukisstrange it made me chuckle when you said about no one in that room. As I was looking at a fairly modern washer and dryer. It would be pretty interesting to be able to get into the lower parts. To bad they may not allow you to break down a wall to get access.
@@2dogsmowing 😂Yes I appreciate the laugh at myself on many videos. I still can't hold the camera still after all these years... I get too excited when recording new stuff sometimes. And agreed - I would love permission to break down any walls I could on this base, I spent my life trying to see whats behind many of them! Appreciate the comment!
I agree! It's not mine to donate, I was only let in under strange circumstances. No one ever cared to save the AN/FPS-35 radar and when I told them about this equipment, they did not seem to care much for saving it. It will most likely sit there for another 20 years with no one ever filming it again! I agree with the sentiment though!
The ball at West Hampton is nothing more than the Terry Tracking and Telemetry Station maintained by Grumman which fed real time data from testing aircraft like the F-14 Tomcat etc which Grumman built. I personally know about Terry Hill, at least Grummans end. 👍
That's awesome actually there were 3 on site - the first radome was for the BOMARC nuclear missiles at Westhampton Air Force Base, it was HIPAR radar, then the second one may have been for Grummans, I used to use them to steer the tillar into the Peconic Bays by boat. Then they removed 1 and the newest one actually replaced the Montauk SAGE Radar the AN/FPS-35 I have the articles when they shut down Montauk and Turned on Riverhead in 1981 and made a video about it and even drove in right under the radome. I drove beneath the weather Radome at BNL as well. The last Radome there was run by FAA/ JSS and it's driveway is across from Suffolk Community College. Thanks for watching! very interesting on the telemetry angle never heard about the 3rd radome before!
PS My Uncle sat on top of one of the Radome balls when they were done, with the guy who built one, someone named Dunlap actually, so out on the sailboats in the Peconic they called them "Dunlap's balls" and we used them to steer back towards the mouth of the river in Riverhead. Thanks again for the info about Grumman's connection to this site!
Yes but you are also talking about a state park that for 20 years no one was allowed to access, Bell labs had many other duties on this base, which was unusual according to the telephone museum in Maine, A state trooper did live there and have video of his arresting us on this base for trespassing, on this channel. This property has the most convoluted and messy history, shared by the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard and Navy, and now (most of it) is a state park but some areas are completely off limits. Nothing about this property is normal, hence the legends. Thanks for checking it out!
Hi Stephen, thanks for the comment! Do you mean the map I featured in this video that shows the entire US (all locations)? I do have a clear copy you can zoom in on, let me see if I can find it one the web and I will try to share it here. I would love to see other schematics but have not found them yet. It would be great if the Parks service was into preserving this history!
The whole facility is part of the bunker, this is technically the "hen house" the Air Force Blockhouse style building that sits atop of the basement levels, protecting the entrance. It was always the "Security building", and A state police officer lived there. No one else has ever been inside, the parks people do not let anyone in. I only got in bc this gentleman was retiring, and he happens to be in several media stories, TV shows, and is someone who says they were brought to the base as a kid. He was in major print media outlets like Sun and Post. I just did not tell anyone in this video who it was, and that is the only reason any of us are seeing the inside of this building at all, because he just did not care anymore and he is a friend of mine, that I met when we did the same tv shows together. That being said, they keep this building locked up tight and I still could not get into the staircase and freight elevator section of the building, which even he did not have a key too, but you can see the missing space in the wall as i tried to demonstrate here. Ask why is it locked so tight? Also, there are literally thousands of these facilities across the US, and most of them are built exactly the same, like a template. Thanks for watching & the question!
Hey Thanks for watching! I never knew this many Bell labs folks would gather here, I added the music. lol But I wanted to share w you 3 of my family were Bell Labs: 2 operators and 1 Lineman, my Father was a consultant for Sperry, which built the radar on this base! Thanks for watching!
Hello not all at&t long line site are or have underground bunkers! I can tell you with the size of the build above ground, there is no bunker at that site!
Thanks! That is what many other AT&T employees told me. I appreciate the info! There is a Air Force Fallout shelter beneath this building, as this was no oridinary LongLines site, it is on a former Army base, then Air Force station, It was one of the first SAGE AN/FPS-35 Radar TD-2 relays to send the radar data to the direction center and never handled civilian or commercial transmissions, and I since found the records in a FOIA document shared with me by the veterans of the 773rd radar squadron. They had fallout shelters beneath all the essential facilities on site, built in 61. This has been the biggest mystery! Thanks for the information, I look forward to learning more about other LongLines sites!
Just this one video is only the top off the amount of space is available under these buildings. He also pretended to not see the void. Pretty difficult to miss, really.
You are definitely onto something. In fact I was just rewatching this last night and looking for something similar...very strange. I do have official FOIA documents that mention they built a fallout shelter beneath this building, but the CoAx bunker has since been ruled out after I was contacted by the telephone museum, with info. However, we still can not get into the portion of the building that has a full basement wall that extends deeper into the foundation. You are definitely onto something by looking at the utilities and where they go. Thanks for watching & the comment!
This site seems very suspicious! I wonder if it was one of the rumored "Unlisted" Autovon or Echofox Top-Secret locations? Because there's no reason a guard should have lived there after 1992, when the program was decommissioned ??😮
Story is many other things have been going on. There's an early (80's?) movie that is disrupted by a camera drive, on 16mm. stock, mechanical, but much of it isn't, and Bielek's earliest activity is on that film in most detail. There is another guy with a 200 Iq., apparently.
the way into most of the underground is in the Montauk townhall underground and the building near it. One method is to provide leases that will last 50 years as more of these older pale people start to die off with structures with plot and lot number history that is murky often a new company will spring up and take the place of the former.
Camp Hero is one VERY strange place... For a place that is no longer in service, WHY do they have huge amounts of elec going into a tiny house? They also have a brand new imtercom system at the front gate with a camera on it.
Hey Agreed 100% & Thanks for watching! Yes I have a video where we started pressing the buttons only moments before a parks police car came past. Actually that gate is not far from the building in this video. Thanks for the comment!
Many sub terrain entrances and connecting ways were likely sealed up time and again over the years. There is no doubt at one time or another Camp Hero had an extensive clandestine Military Intelligence Outpost on and under its ground operating in various capacities for many years. Now a days most everything is Centralized Out near Area 51 under the ranges extensive underground network of Man made cavern and tunnels and it remote access and high security.
Very Much Agreed Ric Dale & Thanks for watching! I have been exploring here since I was 12 yo and I am finally printing a book with as much hard documentation as i can, so I hope you stop back soon. Anyways, Thanks for checking it out!
I did, at 16:15 before I show all of the images it says: "Sample of bunker construction: Photo log of a similar facility being built" which is something I often refer to when dealing with template based construction. Thank You though for pointing out it can be more more clear. Also, I found out there is no Coax bunker here. Yes, at the time It was my best guess that there was a Coax bunker here, until this week, I was corrected by a gentleman from the Telephone museum in Maine, that the nearest coax was in Hempstead, far to the West, so I was wrong about Shirley and Noyack as well. This is the only footage ever shot inside this building, and I have since determined that the space I can not access, is indeed a Bomb shelter, one of many fallout shelters on base I have records for. Unfortunately I can not correct the thumbnail or video without taking it down, but I will 100% change the details in my book to show the correction.
@@montaukisstrangethanks for the reply. I grew up on Long Island and worked for AT&T. Never visited this site though. Thanks for the tour. Hope it gets preserved.
@@WApnj No problem! Thanks for the comment & conversation on it, yes my Mother, Grandmother and Grandfather all worked at Ma Bell ; ) my fathers side was all military, I am the odd one out in the family lol Yeah, I hope it gets preserved as well, the equipment room is in pristine shape! Thanks for watching
I find it odd that they have stockpiles of Converse Fastbreak shoes which were first released in 1983 and are basketball/skateboard style shoes. Just seems odd to me
Yeah that was really Strange to see! I know those original in the box go for a couple of hundred dollars a pair, except the fact they probably smell of mildew. Great observation, I did not see too many people point that out! thanks for watching & the comment!
There are many people who swear they were taken to a CIA base 7 stories underground and this is a lot like what they described with the large antenna tower and building they went in and down an elevator
Oh Thank You, I was looking for the Gamma Ray detector, the one at Grummans looks different so I did not realize. Thanks for checking it out & for the info!
Many of you have wanted to see the underground sub basement levels of an AT&T Longlines bunker facility, which is usually a Coaxial hub, I found a smaller channel today that toured and documented the entire thing, and I told them I have the perfect place to share it ruclips.net/video/4H8ogjvjS7s/видео.html Let's get them over 1k!
also, since this video was made, I have found FOIA documents that explicitly state the details of several Cold War fallout shelters on this former Air Force SAGE site at Montauk, and have since published a book, where I discuss the underground and I reprinted several of these documents ' Montauk Is Strange' store.bookbaby.com/book/montauk-is-strange
When I was 12 we moved out to what was Rural Palatine Ill. We were just past/over the city limit our fence line was the limit. Anyway, there was this small metal shack, stainless steel about 500 feet out from our house on what seemed to be an empty field. for two years I lived right next to it dirt biking, resting near it on a break before riding again. Id sit there and rabbit hunt from that spot with my 22 in winter. One fine summer day at 14 finally noticed there were some hinges under a metal plate that I just thought was a transformer or something. So I got some pliers and pulled the cotter pins and took out the hinge pins. Be excited! As I lifted that cover. I was staring DOWN a long CLEAN and lit metal tube with rungs and lights, and some warning signs. I climbed down ladder about 75-100 ft and it opened up to a big chamber. There were lighted control panels all along the walls covered in switches and levers. desks, file cabinets and a locked Door like a submarine door with the wheel and all. I got scared and left, put in the hinge pins and cotter pins, and got the heck out of there. 5 minutes later a white plain van with two dudes in uniforms showed up, looked around. talked on a walkie talkie. Then unlocked hatch DREW GUNS and opened it! I was watching them in the field thru a curtain over my telescope! They came out looked around for awhile and left. A week later I got up the courage and went back, pulled the cotters and pins, opened the hatch and got a BAD feeling! I immediately tidied it all up ran back home. Like 2 minutes later a white 4 wheel drive and 2 white vans came. I hid in my room, they looked ALL around that field. Next day after school I drove by the hatch. It is now gone, the big silver cabinet is gone! And the tube is filled to top with concrete. covered in a couple inches of dirt. Flat as an empty field.
It's everybody's lucky day. A former ATT employee just posted a PHENOMENAL full tour of one of these bunkers, and it is indeed incredible. It's on RUclips.
Hey ALS Thanks for letting us know, feel free to post the link here, I would love to watch as well!
Ron From Atlas Survivol shelters just posted a tour of a AT&T bunker on his RUclips page. They are huge. I have seen other videos in the past on these as well
@@brianredban9393 Oh man I am definitely going to check that out, the silo is I think 150 feet deep on the Atlas! Thanks for letting me know!
I’m going to have to ask my uncle what he’s seen. He worked in telecom for years until he retired. He got training in the Army when he left home as a young man and that was his specialty while he served. He’s told me all kinds of interesting things but I never was aware of these buildings so I never asked him.
Would've been nice to know where to see it lol
I worked at a surface AA&T TD-2 (4 GHz) microwave site 1970 thru 1977....Excellent training using Unbelievable $$ High quality Bell Labs/Western Electric test equipment....This was all Planar Triode vacuum Tube technology using Silver Plated/Copper tuned Cavity resonators routinely Hand tuned to achieve sweep 20 MHz, 0.2 dBm Bandwidth flat, 4 GHz FM at required S/N rf power level....Challenging precision work Environment for this at time 20 yr old !! .....Lots of memories keeping good Agc in all weather conditions.....
That is pretty exciting sounding! Thanks for sharing the details here & feel free to read through the comments many other Bell employees have shown up in this comment section for this video, I am just soaking in the details and learning! PS One side of my family had 3 Bell employees, but only as 2 operators and 1 lineman, Thanks for watching!
Interesting Tom, I started in 1970 and worked several MW Relay sites in Oklahoma. We had portable tower/antenna systems to go back up with after a nuclear exchange to restore critical circuits.
Phenomenal coverage of things hidden from us during that time. Thanks for interesting facts about Camp Hero.
Thank You Jane!
Preston Nichols and beliek showed underground facilities of Montauk,this isn't it.
The site you got video of is just a TD-2 microwave site. No bunker underground there. The bunkers had massive ventilation pits for the gigantic HVAC systems and to supply the very large diesel generators.
In the early 90’s I did “tear out” work in these sites, removing old obsolete equipment.
The 2 bunkers I spent the most time in were Ellisville, Florida and Windermere, Florida (Orlando metro).
This is the address for Ellisville:
3050 SE County Road 18
Lake City, FL 32025
United States
THAT is what a bunker looks like (note: this one had an external building addition done about 20 years ago. It’s no longer fully underground).
Thanks for the info and for checking it out! Yes I am going to make an updated video to correct myself: A.) I did find in the History of the 773rd radar Squadron Historical records obtained by FOIA, I saw that these was a TD-2 tower, and actually found a picture of the tower with the horns, and I noticed there were 2 instead of 4, does the name have anything to do with the amount of horns? B.) A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine was the first to point out there is no CoAxial hub / Bunker below, but there is a Air Force cold war Fallout shelter below this building, which was guarded by State police officer for decades who lived in this building when it was a state park. He actually arrested us for trespassing in the state the park. I suppose that is why I can not access that one part of the building.
On top of that I found some very interesting duties, different than most LongLines sites: they handled Fine Grain Video Processing to receive the radar data from the FST-2 computer, a super large vacuum tube computer in the Ops building across site, and then the TD-2 would send the SAGE radar data off to the Direction Center via the Skyway! Bell techs also ran the ALRI and Tropospheric scatter on site, and there were phone switch / hub's in 4 of the buildings on base. I am still trying to figure it all out. Thank You again for the comment!
@@montaukisstrange, "TD-2" is the name / specification for the microwave radio signals handled at the facility; it has nothing to do with the number of horn antennas. "TD-2" was preceded by "TD" and followed by "TH" in terms of development history. This was all analog radio, first using vacuum tubes and later some solid-state components. The system employed frequency division multiplexing providing hundreds of voice channels (or a couple of television signals) within each broadband signal. Western Electric was able to double the capacity by implementing vertical and horizonal polarization of the radio signals. In the mid-70s they successfully started using single sideband (SSB) sending two different signals on each of the two bands (upper and lower) simultaneously. In terms of number of horns, a tower near where I grew up in Upstate New York had seven horns. It was a 3-way junction, 2 horns heading to Buffalo, Albany, and Pittsburgh, respectively. The 7th horn branched off the serve a local Class 4 Toll Tandem.
I live in Windermere. Where is this site? Is it the brick building near downtown next to the tennis courts?
Can't find the address on Google or on any sat map
Excellent!! There may have been an installation like this sans tower in Piscataway NJ in the 70s. A small white painted cinder block building with a bunch of underground cable markers surrounding it. A friend who’s Dad worked for AT&T Long Lines said it was an entrance to an underground Telco facility. The building was much smaller than the one here.
Very well done Brian and I've told you before I've seen a couple in southern Ontario, and your map you displayed at the beginning of your video I paused and the sites I've seen where shown in your map and there's one very near shown on your map with a road named Termaine I'm 10 minutes from that one and there similar to the one's that you posted I'lll try and take some photo's of them for comparison possible and now I just got a DJI Mini 3 pro drone and they are on sale before Christmas so my wife got me one after my surgery and made for a great gift for my Birthday Thank you for the video it's got my wheels turning after seeing your map showing spots in Ontario also!
Yes you have! I have talked about making this for a whole now, aI figured it would be a good video to get back into the swing of things with. The drone is an amazing idea for you! I hope you can "get out there" to some degree with the drone and get some exploring in any way you can! Thanks Gavin always appreciate the comment and you watching!
You had mentioned you were working on this before, and I had always wondered about these buildings. My grandmother worked for Southern Bell in an imposing tower with the microwave antennas on the top. Now I know why they were built like bunkers. You're very thorough in documenting this with excellent photos. How about those boxes of Converse?! If Ma Bell was so important to defense and communications it makes you wonder why congress deregulated the phone companies in the 80's.
Hey Ryan thanks for that article! Yeah the Converse were quite a shock to see, at least they would be down there surviving in style! Yeah it was cool to find out how fiber optics came and blew the microwave relay system out of the water in the early 80's, i remember they deregulated everything around that time, interesting! Thanks for the awesome comment and for sharing that!
@@montaukisstrange Yes that was the plan. They even went to schools with a demo fiber optic cable bundle to show kids how it worked. My mom's last job with the phone company was drafting jobs to install it. They installed the fiber networks only to be dissolved so other companies could continue to profit off of AT&T's and Bells' work.
the "deregulation was mandated by Judge Harold Greene in 1982 per a lawsuit by the 12 or 13 major "RBOCS" - Regional Bell Operating Companies - (NY Bell, New England bell, Southern bell, Chesapeake and Potomac, Ohio Bell, etc.) against the "monopoly - AT&T. ...The RBOCS wanted to purchase equipment from manufacturers other than - "Western Electric" - AT&T's manufacturing division. AT&T's position was - other manufacturers equipment wouldn't be compatible & would compromise the system, (viewed in the 1940's to 1980's as a "Strategic national defense Network" . AT&T lost the lawsuit. it had a 10 year period after 1985 that it had to divest itself from Western Electric - - the ruling : an "operating company" (ie: AT&T) could not be a "operating AND a Manufacturing company.... which created the spin-off of Lucent Technologies from AT&T in 1996. after the ruling, the RBOCs began purchasing / integrating equipment from other manufacturers. another implication of the lawsuit was many of the independent RBOCS merged together to create mini monopolies, ie Bell Atlantic accreted several RBOCS -( c&p, nj bell, bell of philly, ny bell, ne bell) - subsequentially, bell Atlantic became Verizon.
@@raxxtangowow. Thanks for this. Very interesting and informative!
Hey Brian! I remember Preston mentioning antenna's that just laid ON the ground. He chuckeled a bit when he said it and added that they often worked better than the other's! Have you been able to locate any of those as of yet?
When I heard him say that, it brought to my mind something I had seen on the w a y back machine - back in the day (allegedly) before radar and such when prop planes were "modern" they set up a system for pilots to navigate manually. It was literally h u g e "arrows" laid out ON the ground set up so the pilots could just look out their windows and find the direction of whatever nearby city. They said these things were all across the country! The video I saw this on packaged that as a part of forgotten about history.
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Makes me wonder if its related?!! Considering Teslas works, this makes a LOT of sense! Coincidentally 🙄 today Ive learned the museum of his works violently burned to the ground. That makes me soooo angry! (Insert SURPURLATIVES here)
Brian I cannot thank you enough for all the fantastic and outstanding work you do!! I ABSOLUTELY love your painstaking attention to detail!!
Well done!!
Hello Angel! Thanks for the awesome comment! No I have not heard of that but now that you mentioned it I am definitely very curious about the idea! Yes it does remind me of Tesla in the sense that the antennae would be on the ground, perpendicular to what we would normally see... very cool! Thanks for the feedback too! That always encourages me and gives me inspiration for sure! As far the Tesla Science Center / Tesla's former Wardenclyffe Lab and site of the free energy tower - the fire was devastating to us all! I heard the next AM and have passed it several times since to check the damage. I did promise an update and the best news I read is that not all was lost and they are very positive and hopeful about continuing on with the museum! Thanks again Angel, always great to hear your thoughts & have a great weekend!
The large arrows on the ground you mentioned are part of the FAA's very old "Visual Airway System." It consisted of large concrete arrows that, at the time, were painted for visibility against the contrast of the terrain. In addition to the arrows, there were also light towers in order to be able to use the system at night.
In some parts of the US (particularly Montana) the Visual Airway System was maintained into the 1990's.
I've been an airline pilot since 1989. I used to enjoy watching the lights from the VAS when flying over Montana at night during the '90's. But technology marches ever forward, and navigation aids like the VAS, NDB's, etc are all relics of the past now.
Back when American Telephone & Telegraph Company was a monopoly, there was always plenty of money available to build these unbelievably expensive microwave repeater stations every 30 miles from North to South and East to West. Since AT&T Long Lines carried ALL U.S. Government communications along with ALL military circuits including radar, the Federal Government was more than happy to pay their monthly “phone” bill.
Unfortunately, the AT&T company that most of us are familiar with today is NOTHING like the Long Lines division that I worked for.
What is shown in this video is a testament to the genius that existed back in the 60’s, 70’s, of the company. With the advent of the Laser from Bell Labs and the invaluable assistance of Corning Glass Works, the way we communicate around the country and around the world has changed forever.
True a satellite war would make those facilities advantageous again. As many things taken for granted would vanish. Placing the fiber network into the front…
I'm a retired USAF Electronic Warfare systems analyst and this facility looks like it might be part of the GWEN network (AN/URC-117 Ground Wave Emergency Network.) There is an absolutely fail-safe method for discovering if there is an underground bunker complex on this site; 3D seismic underground investigation equipment. There is a ton of this technology that is available, and it ain't cheap, but perhaps you could get hold of some promising young PhD candidate at a Geo-Physics research facility and get them to come out and do an underground 3D survey. Good Luck and I really enjoyed this video.
Hey Thank You so much for the comment! I meant to get back to this sooner. I have heard of GWEN once or twice in reading, but that is Fascinating. I thought this may have been a Coaxial hub for AT&T and later found additional documentation that this site was mainly used for the Semi Automatic Ground Environment Radar at the Montauk Air Force Station, the radar was the AN/FPS-35 and the Operations building (a former MIT lab that was used in the Cape cod System and later the ESS - which eventually led to the creation of the internet / Arpanet) The Ops building originally housed the Whirlwind computer and later BUIC II and III, and the FSQ-7 data transmitter would transmit the radar data across the base where it was received at this Telco building, aka the Longlines building, and then transmitted or relayed to other LongLines sites via the TD-2 microwave tower (de-horned and now a cell tower) and it would go to the direction center (DC) at Mcguire AFB. I found fallout shelters exist on this base, especially at all the integral parts of the system like this facility. Thanks again for the comment & for watching!!
@@montaukisstrange The Electronic Warfare Shop I worked in had hundreds of systems strewn all over the Avionics branch as well as different systems all over base. I also did an intense amount of classified research while I was at The Hewes Hall School of Electronic Warfare where I first came to know GWEN. She was an early version of the World Wide Web, classified and tied directly to the Strategic Air Command's E-3A Looking Glass - Airborne Nuclear Command Post (ABNCP) and the E-4b National Emergency Airborne Command Post (NEACP). These were the airborne counterparts to GWEN. The 55th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing operated all the RC-135 Rivet Joint ELINT aircraft as well as a newer integrated Tactical variant of Looking Glass, the EC-130E Compass Call - Airborne Electronic Warfare Battle Command Post. I believe that it was the Compass Call aircraft that put an end to most of the tactical early warning facilities along with the deployment of the MILSTAR satellite array which made the LongLines microwave relays obsolete. Thanks again for your work, I love these old sites!
@@montaukisstrange Just a footnote, I was almost selected by the Physics department at the University I worked for to go to Alaska and retrieve the Klystron tubes from old DEW line AN/FPS-19 Early Warning Radars. These tubes are still operating as the High Frequency power supply for our linear accelerator. It would have been awesome...
@@dellwood17 Wow! That is incredible! I used to always stare at pics of the Radomes on the DEW line! Also i have heard of people removing the Klystron tubes, and repairing them at MAFS, I have the official base history documents for 1958-1973 that were shared by a Veteran of the 773rd Radar Squadron, attained by FOIA request. I had so many technical details I am still trying to learn as best I can. I think this Klystron was in the Tropospheric Scatter building that relayed the data to and from Texas Tower #3 out on the Nantucket Shoals.
I appreciate all of the information and technical knowledge, I am learning as best I can. I do have one Thyratron Tube intact with the Copper heat sink on the bottom. I guess it was to modulate the pulses of microwave radar (?) for frequency diversity or oscillation. The had a lot of discussion of Anti-jamming equipment as well in that document and I think they even installed Cryptographic equipment. The document contained a lot of Acronyms you would definitely recognize. Thanks again for all the details, it is very much appreciated!
Great video! Takes me back to being stationed in Germany in the Army 1972 - 73 at a combined Army Air Force communication site. The Air Force guys had a big microwave tower with the old-style feed horns from back in the day. I was Army signal Corps on the other side of the fence, a completely mobile communications site working out of 45 foot trailers and many small equipment huts mounted on 2 1/2 ton trucks. Look forward to watching more of your videos!
Wow That is awesome, great comment Thanks I appreciate you watching as well! Yes thats very interesting, I have had to study many of the Signal Corps equipment placement at Montauk like the Search Lights, AntiAircraft positions, BES, BC, and FC stations, and the entire coastal defense artillery's communications cable runs were everywhere, so much cable and so many phone lines! I am still trying to figure out where the Signal Operations Room would be at Montauk, but it is fascinating trying to learn how everything works. Anyways, I am hoping like minded folks can share and talk with each other here, if they wanted. Anyways Thanks again!
That equipment is part of a Number 5 Crossbar electromechanical Bell system switch/exchange. I’m confident that wasn’t RAM this system predated that. I didn’t see any microwave longlines transmission equipment that would have been used in ATT long lines.
I’m pretty sure this is just a switch. The actual longlines microwave sites had to have massive ventilation ducts. Those would have been massive pits like at a minimum of 20 feet by 20 feet wide. It would suck in air and it would go to an evaporator cooler and dissipate heat with big round baffles that could close if the air were to become contaminated with radiation. Another thing to look for is the presence of waveguides, rectangular copper ducts that would go in and out of the building. That picture you showed of the cylindrical concrete thing with a small dome on it was a gamma ray detector that were present at those sites - if it had that it would have been highly likely that it would of been some kind of long lines site.
The picture you showed of the tower with horns on it were definitely from a microwave relay site. The tower shown in the video definitely had contemporary cell tower comms. The source material of your research was pretty interesting. This infrastructure is fascinating.
Also check out Seattle connections museum - they have one of the last working number 5 crossbar switches that they maintain for the sake of exhibiting this technology.
Hmmm very interesting! Thanks for the comment and for watching! So the 256 magnetic core RAM was actually invented for the SAGE system and Montauk was one of the very first SAGE sites and even took part in ESS Experimental SAGE System and Cape Cod System, the very beginnings of the internet in 1955 actually it all traces back to SAGE. Anyways this Longlines site Montauk is on the Longlines location maps, and is in all the military historical records as TELCO, ATT building and definitely had a TD-5 Microwave relay with horns atop that tower, I have old pics before they were de-horned. This site is very unique as it received data from across the base, from the AN/FSQ-7 in the SAGE Annex and then sent the data along to the Direction Center. I can not figure out where the power source was, each redundant system had commercial power, and generators, and a fallout shelter (which explains the part of the building we can not access) and there were 2 power plants on base, 1 coal and 1 diesel, and I can not tell if this is connected to them, also, part of this building was tied to GATR ground to air radio as well. Half my family worked for ma Bell and they have no clue, and Bell had many other responsibilities at this site, such as ALRI, and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to Texas towers #3 in the ocean, it's very interesting and everyones information is really helping to figure it out! Thanks again!
Oh love this one. I don’t believe I’ve seen it! Groovy B 💛💛💛
Thanks!! Glad you liked!
I have some pictures and videos of a few in CT. I can try and grab some fresh videos of one of the bigger ones we have. The bunker is completely flooded, the water is crystal clear and stagnant, you cant tell there is water there until you start to walk down and get your feet wet. Lots of old equipment still exists within some of them. Very cool pieces of history we have.
@giovannivincent6599 Hey thats awesome! Thanks for watching, and for sharing! Wow yeah that sounds like the radar tower at Montauk, I tied a glow stick to a rock and threw it down in the flooded basement a few videos back, and it got hung up on the ledge. Going to go back with underwater camera and selfie stick and try to film with some kind of underwater flashlight, it should be an 18' basement as I have real estate pics from an identical tower... 1 of 24 built the same. Anyways If you did get footage be sure to come back and let me know, and you can drop thelink here because a lot of Bell AT&T techs are showing up which could probably answer any other questions about these sites! I only know this one because Montauk, Camp Hero, Montauk Air Force Station, is my specialty! But i pretty much explore everything on Long Island. I would love to see any footage of these sites. Thanks again for the info!
If you have some locations, can you please share them, Thanks Bob
@@bobstaurovsky3506google search “AT&T longline map”, it’s quite eye opening actually seeing where ALL of these bunkers are. My state of Illinois has HUNDREDS! It should be the first link and has the full interactive map.
Very cool vid. We have an old Microwave tower and building like that on top of a hill about 35 minute drive from my house in Georgia. It seems to have been sold off and is a private commercial property now.
I thought the microwave communication towers were mostly N.S. railway, at least down here, they used their own microwave phone system long after cell phones became a thing.
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Cynthia!
The de-regulation was only of the Bell System. Nobody challenged AT&T Long Lines until MCI came along. At that point you had a choice for your long distance carrier.
They could hear a pin drop! The fiber Optics tried to outdo the Microwave and CoAx..and they did, but the tried and true still remain, and are our redundant back ups! Honestly I wish these were kept up to date, everyone wants to tour an underground building! Its a no brainer imo, but maybe thats just people like us! Nevertheless I stand by this notion haha Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange The 'pin drop' was from Sprint. As far as Coax, yes it is still used, but short haul for the most part. Microwave, although digital now, still has bandwidth and distance limits that are no where near what is required in today's communications arena. The speeds of today's pluggable optics are unreal, and things can be tuned for different colors or NM and filtered through optic multiplexers. My old company was using pluggable 400g optics that inserted directly into router cards and were good for 80km. (50 miles) Start running things through the DWDM regenerators, with RAMAN amplifiers, a dispersion compensation, you are into the terabytes over a single pair. there are bi-directional systems, the the fiber cable densities are now ribbon, and outside plant cables were in the 3400 range. The last 20 years has been unbelievable, (Oh yeah,,30yrs MCI, then 12 years Time Warner/Charter)
And they failed,like sprint and MCI.
Bell Systems is AT&T . AT&T but out of Bell Systems and Western Electric in 1982. IDK about there but Bell Systems used to have sub stations across America and Western Electric did the installation and uninstall of these stations. Most where decommissioned around 1986. I only know of 2 that have a underground bunker in them. One I been down in that was shared with the US Corp of Engineers and it was a WW 2 shelter and had underground a giant water turbine generator for emergency electric. It big enough that a tractor trailer could be driven past it.
Wow, very interesting, thanks for the video.
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That vent you were looking for is a blast detector
Hey yes I was definitely looking for a Gamma ray detector, I saw a picture of one and realized I see one all the time when I pass by Grummans F-14 factory aka Naval weapons plant, That and I was looking for a breathing vent for an underground, but just found out this site may have no COAX so maybe just a shelter down there, if anything. Thanks for watching!
I just realized the Gamma ray detector you meant is in the front of the vent I was talking about at 12:10 the air vent is flush with the ground and is circular, and is behind the fence. Thanks for helping me figure this out!
Some cool stuff. I live near the horn tower in Norwalk Ct. The horns are gone but the tower has been a local landmark forever. Next time I go by the area I should look for traces of other structures... and perhaps aerial shots might show construction, because they were taken about every 10 years since the 1930s.
Hey Rupe I think that sounds like a great idea! I did not know they preserved the horns in Norwalk, I just had a friend send me pics of the Asheville NC tower and they preserved it in the center of town, with additional tower constructed around it to protect it. This one I show at Montauk was de-horned sometime in the early 1980s. Good luck in your local searches, I always use the old aerials to find out a ton of info at Montauk, Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange As I said, the horns are gone circa the cell phone push, but the tower is there. I was told it's over 300 ft tall. My sister does cell phone tower site research for installations on old churches, and existing structures, like water towers. She has access to many historical web sites regarding each location. She's also a history buff so certain details are her thing in her mind.
@@rupe53 That's awesome! Yeah it is surprising, but it seems in many cases poor records were kept of historic infrastructure. It sounds like a pretty cool job for sure! I would love to have access to those kind of data searches / history sites! I am definitely interested the technology as well as the infrastructure below.
@@montaukisstrange she has been doing this job for many years, so much of it is out there to be had or bookmarked once you find it. Quite a bit is like reading old property deeds, where the boarder is Smith on one side and Jones on the other... but then you stumble on tid-bits of good stuff where the property had one use and got changed to another. Knowing the town's history can play a role in figuring things out at a given time. We've got transmitters on a property locally, but looking closer shows a round building, which originally had a radar dish on the roof for early warning of air strikes. If you piece it together, it's also the highest point in town, which is still an advantage even though it's 12 miles from the coast. Yup, another piece of cold war technology. Searching the FCC licensees on that tower says town govt and cell phones, but searching back also shows an FM station, an AM station, and various other uses. A friend says that back in the day of "daytime only" use kids would climb the tower at night to view NYC some 50 miles away.
@@rupe53 Oh man, all I have to say is, i have not been around as much because I have been writing voraciously to finish this book about Camp Hero I have been writing for 4 years and hoping to print next month, and by the way you describe your sources, are almost identical to the way I like to completely absorb every resource available! ha I hope to see you guys again then, I'm interested in what you both find also, the kind of minds that could help me with certain mysteries and mostly I just like to share what I found. Good stuff!
Bro, you got to get to the communications Museum in Seattle Washington. They have all working switching equipment from the 1800s to the 1990s for visitors to play with!!!! It’s so cool!!!! They’re only open on Sundays though! So plan accordingly!
As a summer resident of Montauk since 1985 I can tell you Montauk definitely has a strange vibe about it while also having one of the most calming effects on a person , it was definitely way better in the 80s and early 90s but like everywhere else it has grown with the times , if you want one of the most relaxing times of your life with a little bit of mystery and intrigue then Montauk is the place to visit.
Well said! Been going my whole life since the 1980s up to 10 days ago. It's my favorite place, but you pretty much summed it up perfectly! Thanks for watching & the comment!
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Thank You so much Jeremy! That is my first one Much appreciated!
Great work, Great Content
Slow down the camera, you have it everywhere like you’re filming Blairwitch lol
Hahah I agree! Thank You, and yes I am trying to stop getting so excited I am terrible at swinging that camera around and talking with my hands (while holding the camera lol) Appreciate you watching!
Enjoyed the footage and history! Love the old network/circuit designs.
We have some old Nike Ajax bases here, but I'm not sure about bunkers.
Thanks so much! Appreciate you watching! I just met a smaller channel that has a walk through underground levels of an AT&T Bunker and I told him I would share it, but if you want to check it out first ruclips.net/video/4H8ogjvjS7s/видео.html
2:42 that chimney foundation thing looks like it is quite new like the dust didn't yet settle in the pores.
Aah Good observation, I will have to take another look with that in Mind! Thanks and we appreciate you checking it out and the comment too!
no stair case or elevator there, the racks would be under ground, there would be ventilation shaft blast detectors, that building doesn't even have a filtration intake on roof you found at manned hardened sites
Yes Thank You I have since been corrected by several ex Bell employees, and I realize now there is no CoAx bunker, but there are many unique features as this was also a part of SAGE and this is on a former Air Force radar base, also there was a fallout shelter as I found it in the base records, but i was wrong about the AT&T longlines bunkers that I showed examples of, but hey I love to learn and this is fascinating! My main interest is in this base, but I try to understand all of the structures and the tech behind them. I appreciate your info and thanks for watching!
Great video. Really interesting. I don't think we have anything like this in the UK.
Thank You! Appreciate that! Also, I am not sure about the first Television towers in the UK, but that would be a clue... but in the US, Alfred Lee Loomis built his own microwave radar, for MIT, only after observing the new technology developed in the UK first! These AT&T Longlines TD-2 towers are essentially towers that emit Microwave transmissions, so is the Montauk radar, the SAGE AN/FPS-35, so it all kinds of originates from the UK, then MIT, and they tested and rolled out a lot of the RADlabs stuff at Montauk with the Cape Cod system, which was the very beginnings of the internet. This site was ultra important for military reasons as well! US Army, Air Force, Navy & Coast Guard all on site at one point. Then the legends lore and real strangeness about this area in general, the inspiration for the show "Stranger tHINGS" Thanks for watching & the comment!
i wish i could've watched this. it seemed generally interesting.
Thanks... & sorry you couldn't watch! I appreciate the comment though!
i worked at AT&T/Bell Labs Lucent in 90's have been to 2 facilities like you describe one in NWNJ now owned by Iron Mountain logistics
a 5 story underground facility its sole purpose was to protect phone system during nuclear attack the one here was built because of proximity to Picatinny Arsenal
Hey Dude Oh man thats awesome! Yeah I have seen a lot of re-purposing as Server centers, or even seed banks. I just found out Montauk did not have the Coax bunker, but was unique in that it was a part of the SAGE radar system on this Air Force Base and used the TD5 microwave repeater to transmit data to the direction centers, and other Bell technicians ran the aALRI site here, as well as the Tropspheric Scatter antennae and building, that communicated with the Texas Towers. I am slowly learning the old tech. Very cool Thanks for watching & the comment!
thanks for the vid brings back memories@@montaukisstrange
Thing is AT&T is still totally building stuff like this, A friend of mine works construction and was recently doing a job for AT&T running ac for the surface building of a massive bunker complex. Not sure if it was a new bunker or an old bunker or what they would be using it for but it was fairly cool.
Thanks for the amazing information! You are the first person to suggest this, and it really makes sense to me! I wonder if they are making safeguards for fiber optics? Possibly building with room to expand with future technologies like quartz crystal memory databanks or something, but either way I think you are probably right! Thanks for watching & the comment!
Look up the “AT&T building” in New York city.
@@gregkrueger331 Yes I believe it is 33 Thomas Street the NSA building is a former Long Lines you are right! Also I noticed the similarity in the construction to the iconic Montauk SAGE Radar tower, the AN/FPS-35 has no windows either! Thanks for mentioning that!
During the 70's, a buddy and I explored all the buildings at Camp Hero except for the radar building which at that time was still active, the 8-tracks would pickup the radar sweeps as they went past us.
Helloo Montauk Is Strange watching the video I was wondering if you happened to peek behind those pictures on the wall at the staircase ? The pictures on the wall did you happen to look behind any of them? Just wondering.. thank you for the video..
Heloooo Susie! Thanks for checking out the video! I did not get to check them because I used those as an example from similar facilities, but could not get underground here. They are all built similarly though. Now onto your picture idea - That is brilliant! I will probably look behind every picture I find now! 🔍lol but seriously, I just might! 😁
@@montaukisstrange You should!!! yes please do!!
5:19 phone switched were scrapped for their solid palladium contacts. Worth a lot of money today
Wow I have recovered 24k plated gold military pins/ contacts but 999 Palladium would be an amazing electrical connection for sure! So Interesting - Not even my refining friends know about that! Thanks for watching
the "computer room" looks to be the relay bays for a 1A electronic switch or #5 crossbar and the test switchboard. the circuit cards were probably resistor packs not ram -to the right is the circuit distribution frame. .. local circuits would be "peeled-off' of the microwave td2y carrier for local service (the microwave system was retired around 1990/92 , the antenna feed horns would have sat atop the red/white tower-shown at 11:44... I don't see any of the microwave waveguide or the RF receivers / amplifiers in your photos of the 'computer room'.... any equipment in earthquake zones or underground would have been mounted on springs - seen at 19:04 & 19:27.
Thanks for all the details! Yes I have since found out from the telephone museum in Maine that there was no CoAxial bunker at this site, or even the others in this video. I will correct all future details going forward. The Bomb shelter I was referring to is an Air Force fallout shelter built in 1961, that has one on record in this building but I can not access that part, and neither can the parks people apparently. This building was built in 1955 and supported the Transmitter and Receiver sites and would receive data from the FSQ-7 data transmitter across base (This is on a military base that was closed in 1981) also it is very unique as far as Longlines sites, because it was part of a SAGE radar site (Semi Automatic Ground Environment) and they had been hooked into the Whirlwind computer as MIT had their own building on site to test the Cape Cod System and ESS. Then they had the BUIC computer and later BUIC II and BUIC III. Also Bell labs technicians were on site in 1962 to run the ALRI (one of 4 sites on east coast to talk to the Lockheed EC121) and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to the Texas Towers #3. I got all this info from FOIA and military documents from the veterans of the 773RD radar squadron, which this AT&T building was a part of. I do not think they served the public at all. The tower was de-horned in 1969. I have a lot of history but you definitely gave me a lot of technology to look up! Thanks! I am doing my best to understand it. The fallout facilities are most likely small, they built about 6 of them on base, between 1961-1963. Do you think this equipment had a power source in the building (generators etc)? or do you think they would have been tied into one of the power plants on base? Either way I appreciate you watching & your very helpful comment!
Interesting! I was wondering why that ladder was so strange looking... Thanks
I use to hang out on top of an old long lines site in CT. The same old maintenance worker use to kick me and my buddies off the tower platform, but was always super cool about it. This was way back in the late 90's when they still had the giant Western Electric horn antennas. There was a time for about 15 years when a lot of them sat dormant, eventually being sold to the big tower company that removed the horn antennas to make room for cellular equipment.
Awesome video!
Thanks Marcy!🙂
I live 2 miles away from one here in South Central Indiana!
The ways things are going these places might need restoration.
"If you want something, just grab it."
That is the point when a smart man turns around and walks away from the undercover fed.
One reason I would not accept the offer! Actually this man has been on TV and the NY Post as a victim of the Montauk Project, and is kind of well known, I just could not show his identity. However it would not be the first time I worked with possible agents or hirelings to try and find out and share information about this... You should see the guys that took me to Brooklyn to find out what was on the Reel to Reel we found... now that was sketchy af! Thanks for watching & the comment!
I always wondered what was under the NikeSite.
I recently visited the last two Nike / atlas sites here on Long Island NY....the in lido Beach is still quite visible and your able to see where each missile silo was , the one in Brooksville still shows evidence of the silos as well, steel diamond plate is covering the hatch's and silo openings ......I couldn't get down into anything but there are some small openings at the lido Beach site you can peek inside , looked like a lot of water has gotten into it !!!!!....😮☢️
there is a similar tower and exact building off the LIE in old bethpage too.
Hey Bugs! Yeah I recently saw Two pretty close together off the LIE somewhere around Huntington area... It's amazing how many of these there are across the country on that first map I showed. Then to start thinking about how much money went into it all! Thanks for checking it out!
I once stumbled upon a former long lines facility in PA by shear accident (road trip, missed a turn and went straight on without cell service until I spotted the tower on the side of the road) it was seemingly an above ground facility as it was completely windowless and pretty clearly reinforced, and it was in such a remote location that there was no grafitti on the building. despite signs saying it was repurposed to a privately owned cell tower, old AT&T signs were still present (the 1982-1996 logo from what I can identify). if the size of that facility is anything to go off of, assuming it was a strictly above ground bunker and not an underground one, it's likely whatever's underground would certainly be quite a bit of space! if I ever had the chance I would love to see inside, but from what I can tell the whole building no longer serves any purpose
It’s impossible but I’ve always wanted a microwave horn as a souvenir when Bell Canada took some of there’s down from a tower close to where I live. They’ve been up there ever since I can remember. I used to see the tower from a distance then we moved closer to it and I was able to see it better. It was the only one of its kind that had those horns. From Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
That is awesome! I would want a microwave horn too! Thanks for the comment and sorry I missed it sooner. Also, appreciate you watching!
Where we lived in West VIrginia, near Charlestown (not Charleston) you could see a place we called the "Bald Spot On The Mountain".
My Dad asked a guy he knew that worked at Weather Mountain, Va and his comment was, don't ask. I suspect it was one of these...
Oh wow sounds interesting! Did it have a big steel tower nearby? Some seem to have been converted into TV towers, and even cell towers, but otherwise I know Va. has quite a lot of cool underground spots. Thanks for checking it out & the comment!
Back in the early to mid 90s I worked for the company that decommissioned the underground fule tanks for the backup generators at the AT&T microwave sights in Oregon and Washington. At the sight on top of mount hood in Oregon I was told by the on sight AT&T employee that the tower with the horn antennas on it were designed to bend over and stand back up to reconnect with the network if hit by a blast from a nucular bomb. Now I'm curious if we were ever standing and working above any bunkers on any of the sights I worked on! Would sure love to find out!😁😉
After you opened the hatch you pointed to a door .any reason why you couldn’t open that door to see if it led to a stair or elevator ? Does the fact that the log book had entry dates up until 1982 mean anything regarding the overall operation of the base ? I forget when they supposedly closed the base !Amazing history Awesome !
Hey George! Yeah i asked if we could get into that door but he never had the key, he said none of them did! Same thing for the apmt entrance on the other side. The dates pretty much line up perfectly. The radar was replaced with the Riverhead radome in 81, the base was abandoned in 83, but they started scaling down in 82, a few people stayed at the GATR building until early 84. Thank You for watching glad you liked!
Wow ! I am sure you too want to get into these doors .what is the likely hood of getting access ? That’s very suspicious not being able to get entry. I always thought this building was highly suspect . Imagine if this connects to a much larger underground system ! Maybe you can do another remote viewing if this building ? Thanks again !
@@georgea2108 Yes i sure do! I will do my best to ask permission in a purely historical interest and see if they will allow it...it's worth a try. I did not mention it, but this was someone who was on Travel Channel's Strange World show on Montauk with me, and another show on CW network on Montauk, with me as well, that's how we met, but he is a lifelong resident of Montauk and was basically like one of the kids on #strangerthings riding his bike into Camp Hero in 1984 with other local kids. He was involved in the project, met w Preston etc. I just could not say his name for many reasons, no matter how many extra views it might bring, he does not really want the attention. I figure it was nice enough for him to let me look and document! Yes I can definitely see them turning cold war fallout shelter spoace into Lab space, and then connecting said expanded spaces, I had the same thought! Also a new Remote Viewing is in order! I will let you know soon in case you guys want to give it a shot. Thanks George, enjoy the weekend, keep me posted!
We would definitely like to a remote viewing ! Ok yes I remember the guy from the show
@@georgea2108 Ha ok Good, I knew you would!
Ok cool I am going to work on that today, I have a lot of other locations of interest as well, and a bunch of stuff of interest other i should have finished already... hopefully this weekend!
My dad worked for the phone company; he brought in our local phone bunker when he did maintenance, he talked about the USSR and EMP,
Any security or police i would be saying, this is your planet, you family, you friends your life too, don't you want the truth, you are a human being before anything else! Stand up for that.❤.
Yes, there were a few occasions we tried to reason with them, other times we just escaped to explore another day, but you are right - the right diplomacy can definitely change one mind at a time if done thoughtfully. Even planting a seed / an idea, can grow into a changed mind! Thanks again Megs for watching & sharing your thoughts on this!
So awesome 👌
Keep up the good work 💪👷. Hats off too ya!
@@Looknorth802 Thank You! Much appreciated! Feedback always gets me making more and more, digging deeper - so Thanks again and enjoy the weekend!
Surly must be places like this . We should ask the chinese balloon. 😊 Thanks for sharing did not know anything about this exept for what mike has shared . And he sent me over to your channel .
😂Indeed! Hey SouthernGrits!! gtsy here! I recognize you from Mike's channel, since the first day I have been there. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out! Much appreciated, enjoy the day : )
Damn bro this is awesome! Was it easy to get acess with this guy?
Hey Thanks Knighthawks! Yeah I suppose, I made friends with him when we were both on the same TV show on Travel channel, then again another show on CW it turns out he is one of those kids who use to ride his bike into Camp Hero as a kid just after it closed for good, and truly believes he was involved as well, he is a Montauk local and he was just about to retire so I could not show it for a little while... but yeah it took the right timing to seize the opportunity, and I did not want to miss the chance! I would love to get permission again, it does not hurt to ask, but I do not think the next person in line will be as sympathetic to the idea! Thanks again man for the feedback - much appreciated!
Ah wow what a great opportunity. Great vid very informative! I gotta take the ride out there to explroe more now that ticks and traffic are gone @@montaukisstrange
From a L.E. angle this is might have been their wiretap room.. Thus why the State Trooper was there and the book was a sign in log which is common for Police bosses to sign in when doing inspection of a facility.. Basically he was checking in on the cops that were there.
Thanks for the very useful insights! Piecing history back together takes every bit of information and then some, and still I keep correcting the info I already put out. I appreciate it & Thanks for watching!
is anyone know if the san diego at&t building with the long line tower has a inderground bunker?
Hi Thanks for watching! I pinned your comment so hopefully you can get an answer
I remember an interview with Al Bielek & Preston Nichols on Art Bell back in the day claiming wild conspiracy theories about this place and mind control and the Philadelphia experiment.
The staccato "music" 16:00 +- is pure DISTRACTION! ! ! WHY! ! !
Point taken! It's not my favorite track either, using songs that wont give me a strike from YT, that and I do not like to use the same song twice. I can always use more work on my mixing levels between voice and music, and I wear headphones which is not the same for those playing through speakers. Also, I may have been a little self concious about my voice that day lol I was never really liking the sound of my own voice in recordings if that makes sense. Appreciate you watching either way!
I've been in the High Rock Road long lines bunker in Wrentham Ma. before. Creepy. Its now a regional 911 call center.
There are a least 3 within half an hour from me and numerous other inactive and abandoned bunkers, but the city keeps them monitored and locked up making urbexing them near impossible. I've seen the inside of at least two, with permission. I was blindfolded to see one that was still in operation. I t can house up to 2500 locals in a civil emergency who are chosen by lottery. There are 250 pre-chosen by expertise.
anythings possible if you try hard enough
source: entered two without permission
12:17 was that a vent on the ground to the left.
Good eye! I am not sure what that was, I will have to look on old satellite images to see if there is a structure there. Everytime I pass this building I always look and there is always a vehicle parked there, and I no longer know anyone at the park (the guy who let me in also well known in Montauk Project lore, but I did not name him or show his face really) he let me in in his last 2 months working there before retiring after 20 years! I would love to go back and check. Thanks for the comment & for watching!
The round radar dome is a WSR-88D Doppler weather radar operated by NOAA/NWS
Hey Thanks, I think you mean the Riverhead site right? Or maybe you meant the mini dome on top of the AN/FPS-26 Tower? (that was the metal tower painted in in Day Orange) This was an Air Force base, but NOAA may have operated that small dome on the roof next to the main Radome - because the color day orange is a NOAA color if I remember correctly.
The 4 Radomes at Montauk were AN/FPS-3 (long range search radar), AN/FPS-5 (Height Finder) all microwave, and then replaced with a pair of AN/FPS 6 HF and then the 3 was replaced with one of the first AN/FPS-20s Long Range Search Radar. I thought the riverhead site was a Doppler! Thanks for the comment
Happy New Year Brother ✌️💯👍🙉🙈🙊
Thanks my friend! I hope the same to you and family!! I appreciate you stopping by!
Tesla knew that there was something there. He DID have special powers of detection of energy.
I been in
Interesting! Thanks for watching!
When I was in my 20’s we took down the big horns, and disassembled over 20 of those towers in Texas.
Was not fun or easy. Lol
Wow that is amazing! Lot's of hard work involved I am sure. Thanks for sharing! Lot's of great comments from former Long Lines and AT&T Bell employees here, which is cool to see. Appreciate you watching!
@@montaukisstrange you’re welcome. I’m always curious what they will do with all those old sites.
Didn’t know they had bunkers back then.
We would have looked ourselves.
So do they all have like a bunker? I have one out in a pasture near my farm and it has the big tower with a build but it’s smaller than this building. I’ve wanted to go in in since I was a kid but after I actually found out what they were I REALLY want to explore it 😅
Hey, Thanks for checking it out! No unfortunately I found out they all do not have a Coaxial Hub (giant underground bunker, hardened with everything mounted on springs). It turns out those are more rare, but yes, a small building can hide a massive underground, as the example in this video is actually one of the Coax bunkers! So the best way to check the one by you, is the map I shared, its small, but it is online and you can look to see if there is one, but the tower is a giveaway. Then you could always post the location and many AT&T or Bell techs are seeing this video and could probably answer! I am learning a whole bunch of stuff I never planned to, and in turn, I am figuring out this site: Montauk, which Does have an underground bunker, but it was built for the Air Force as a fallout shelter. Also, this former military base is what Stranger Things is based on! So there is a little more going on at this site than usual. I would love to find a deep coax bunker and maybe you have one near you, that would be awesome & pretty lucky to see inside! Thanks for sharing, and for watching!
@@montaukisstrange I highly fought the one near me has a bunker. It’s in a small small town in Alabama 🤙 love these videos though
@@freedomisntfree_44 Thank You! Yeah you are probably right about that spot. I found one in Stapelton, or a YT video at least to link to. Otherwise I cant really post one or I would share that map for you. This video hs one in Al. pretty cool ruclips.net/video/etLsd1BEh4c/видео.html
Montauk wasn't a bunker site. It was a Microwave endpoint. The 'raised floor" was to access the incoming trunk cables to feed the local telephone carrier. That was a semi common thing with these sites. Bunkers were far more rare and only a small percentage of the sites with the iconic 4 legged horned towers had bunkers.
There's a movie on channel white phosphorus picture that I am watching right now, that I have seen before, but I started watching at the middle of it (from my best reckoning), and Mr. Bielek, as well as another obvious New Yorker (apparently an intellectual prodigy), who took part in both the Philadelphia experiment, and the Montauk youth torture disguised as experimental work, that was a direct insult to humanity.
You know, there have always been myths of tunnels and bunkers connected across the entire country…….now we know they weren’t myths.
You should do a little more research. The majority of AT&T facilities did not have underground bunkers. The buildings you are looking at are primarily above ground, they don't have underground sections. The larger buildings were hardened but had no underground bunkers. The give away for the majority of the bunkers was usually a microwave tower on a hill or mound, sometimes surrounded with a fence with one or two small buildings. If you looked around the site you would probably see a gamma detector, exhaust pipes for the generators and vents for air circulation. It usually consisted of a multi-bay garage and a small building with an overhead garage door. This building was the access to the shaft with a hoist to move heavy equipment. There were probable around 100 bunkers of varying design.
Thank You, It is not my specialty but I am learning as best I can...but this facility is much different than your average Longlines site. It most definitely has an underground bomb shelter and I found that in the official military historical records from a FOIA request done by one of the Veterans of the 773rd Radar squadron with those details. Furthermore, this building was used as part of the SAGE system which received the FSQ-7 date transmission, from the SAGE Annex across base, and forwarded on to the direction center with the TD-5 microwave relay.
I was looking for the bunkers I showed in this video which were the coaxial hub I am guessing? A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine already pointed out that there are few of those, and the nearest in Hempstead, which used to be Queens long ago, this site is about 100 miles from there. I assumed there was a coax hub (bunker) in every single facilty, but I stand corrected and will no longer pass on any such info, knowing that is not the case, I prefer to know what is really down there. Anyways Bell employees were all over this base, running the ALRI, worked in the GATR Transmit & Receive buildings, and ran the Tropospheric scatter antenna to comminicate with Texas Towers 3. In WWII the Army had the Signal Corps, but when the Air Force came in, the used Bell for the communications on base.
Either way I appreciate the info, and will correct my details going forward but definitely cant change this one, not to mention, no one else has ever been allowed to film inside this building and we faced arrest every time we went to explore back then. Thanks! I never knew so many former Bell employees would gather here! I enjoy all the info, and learning!
Very interesting. It was hard to hear with the music
I have to Ask, My Grandfather, Was a AT&T prior Employee.. Obvious worked In these Types Of Places.. He got Parkinson's..Some Say it Was From the Korea Theater.. But, Is there Any Chance any Of this Stuff Could Have Caused Parkinson's Disease.. Believe Me, the Words Impossible Have Left my Vocabulary YEARS AGO.. I Just Want To Follow His Path,... Bec. My Knowledge of What he Was Involved With is Very Limited, Obviously..! ... Reality is, I Dont Think Anybody Is Directly Related To Misunderstood things.. I Have Had My Fair Share of Asbestos From Construction All My Life.. and im just Interested.
So We Dont Make The Same Mistakes a Second Time,.. GBS Alfred Wood!! U.S. Army Korea War Vet. TF 95.
Thanks for sharing about your Grandfather, thats cool you keep his memory alive! Personally, I am not sure but I do Not think it would be from any AT&T related activities, and any theater of war has many hidden things that show up years later... Personally I can't speak for anyone, many of my family were Army, or AT&T as well. I just do not want to give you any incorrect info on something so personal but I do appreciate you asking and maybe this is the right place to find an answer from someone else as well!
When i hear Montauk, bunker, government, military ect. All i think about is Plum island and the “Montauk monster”.
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Someone has been in that room since 82.
Because the washer and dryer are way newer then 82.
Yes I guess I should have said, "only person other than the Parks Maintenance people and State Police" - or "the only Explorers of Camp Hero ever allowed in", or the "only civilian ever allowed in"... or "the only person ever allowed in that knew what it was they were looking at" would work. I have since found a ton of official documents relating to this building which was primarily used for the Air Force and not AT&T civilian use... Anyways Thank You for watching! & pointing out how that can be read by others! Good eye on the washer and dryer. Appreciate it, because I missed that all together!
@montaukisstrange it made me chuckle when you said about no one in that room.
As I was looking at a fairly modern washer and dryer.
It would be pretty interesting to be able to get into the lower parts. To bad they may not allow you to break down a wall to get access.
@@2dogsmowing 😂Yes I appreciate the laugh at myself on many videos. I still can't hold the camera still after all these years... I get too excited when recording new stuff sometimes. And agreed - I would love permission to break down any walls I could on this base, I spent my life trying to see whats behind many of them!
Appreciate the comment!
Donate that mainframe and binder's to the connections museum
I agree! It's not mine to donate, I was only let in under strange circumstances. No one ever cared to save the AN/FPS-35 radar and when I told them about this equipment, they did not seem to care much for saving it. It will most likely sit there for another 20 years with no one ever filming it again! I agree with the sentiment though!
The ball at West Hampton is nothing more than the Terry Tracking and Telemetry Station maintained by Grumman which fed real time data from testing aircraft like the F-14 Tomcat etc which Grumman built. I personally know about Terry Hill, at least Grummans end. 👍
That's awesome actually there were 3 on site - the first radome was for the BOMARC nuclear missiles at Westhampton Air Force Base, it was HIPAR radar, then the second one may have been for Grummans, I used to use them to steer the tillar into the Peconic Bays by boat. Then they removed 1 and the newest one actually replaced the Montauk SAGE Radar the AN/FPS-35 I have the articles when they shut down Montauk and Turned on Riverhead in 1981 and made a video about it and even drove in right under the radome. I drove beneath the weather Radome at BNL as well. The last Radome there was run by FAA/ JSS and it's driveway is across from Suffolk Community College. Thanks for watching! very interesting on the telemetry angle never heard about the 3rd radome before!
PS My Uncle sat on top of one of the Radome balls when they were done, with the guy who built one, someone named Dunlap actually, so out on the sailboats in the Peconic they called them "Dunlap's balls" and we used them to steer back towards the mouth of the river in Riverhead. Thanks again for the info about Grumman's connection to this site!
Technically if someone lived there they have legal access to the whole building
Yes but you are also talking about a state park that for 20 years no one was allowed to access, Bell labs had many other duties on this base, which was unusual according to the telephone museum in Maine, A state trooper did live there and have video of his arresting us on this base for trespassing, on this channel. This property has the most convoluted and messy history, shared by the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard and Navy, and now (most of it) is a state park but some areas are completely off limits. Nothing about this property is normal, hence the legends. Thanks for checking it out!
@@montaukisstrangesomeone could easily get in with the right tools
Is there somewhere to get a copy of the site location map?
Hi Stephen, thanks for the comment! Do you mean the map I featured in this video that shows the entire US (all locations)? I do have a clear copy you can zoom in on, let me see if I can find it one the web and I will try to share it here. I would love to see other schematics but have not found them yet. It would be great if the Parks service was into preserving this history!
At what timestamp do you get into the bunker?
The whole facility is part of the bunker, this is technically the "hen house" the Air Force Blockhouse style building that sits atop of the basement levels, protecting the entrance. It was always the "Security building", and A state police officer lived there. No one else has ever been inside, the parks people do not let anyone in. I only got in bc this gentleman was retiring, and he happens to be in several media stories, TV shows, and is someone who says they were brought to the base as a kid. He was in major print media outlets like Sun and Post. I just did not tell anyone in this video who it was, and that is the only reason any of us are seeing the inside of this building at all, because he just did not care anymore and he is a friend of mine, that I met when we did the same tv shows together. That being said, they keep this building locked up tight and I still could not get into the staircase and freight elevator section of the building, which even he did not have a key too, but you can see the missing space in the wall as i tried to demonstrate here. Ask why is it locked so tight? Also, there are literally thousands of these facilities across the US, and most of them are built exactly the same, like a template. Thanks for watching & the question!
@@montaukisstrange Bunker is the below ground level. You didn't show that in video footage at all?
I wish the nonstop “music” didn’t drown out the narration😩
Hey Thanks for watching! I never knew this many Bell labs folks would gather here, I added the music. lol But I wanted to share w you 3 of my family were Bell Labs: 2 operators and 1 Lineman, my Father was a consultant for Sperry, which built the radar on this base! Thanks for watching!
They must have stopped receiving transmissions from the force lost in Jan 1981. So by July 15, 1982… they must have focused their efforts elsewhere.
Looks like the plumbers have been there
So good to see the taxes being spent so wisely and with the people in mind.....NOT.
Hello not all at&t long line site are or have underground bunkers! I can tell you with the size of the build above ground, there is no bunker at that site!
Thanks! That is what many other AT&T employees told me. I appreciate the info! There is a Air Force Fallout shelter beneath this building, as this was no oridinary LongLines site, it is on a former Army base, then Air Force station, It was one of the first SAGE AN/FPS-35 Radar TD-2 relays to send the radar data to the direction center and never handled civilian or commercial transmissions, and I since found the records in a FOIA document shared with me by the veterans of the 773rd radar squadron. They had fallout shelters beneath all the essential facilities on site, built in 61. This has been the biggest mystery! Thanks for the information, I look forward to learning more about other LongLines sites!
Just this one video is only the top off the amount of space is available under these buildings. He also pretended to not see the void. Pretty difficult to miss, really.
Power wires are running deep into the ground. It must be deeper than the crawl space.
You are definitely onto something. In fact I was just rewatching this last night and looking for something similar...very strange. I do have official FOIA documents that mention they built a fallout shelter beneath this building, but the CoAx bunker has since been ruled out after I was contacted by the telephone museum, with info. However, we still can not get into the portion of the building that has a full basement wall that extends deeper into the foundation. You are definitely onto something by looking at the utilities and where they go. Thanks for watching & the comment!
@@montaukisstrange I enjoyed your video.
You're welcome.
This site seems very suspicious! I wonder if it was one of the rumored "Unlisted" Autovon or Echofox Top-Secret locations? Because there's no reason a guard should have lived there after 1992, when the program was decommissioned ??😮
Story is many other things have been going on. There's an early (80's?) movie that is disrupted by a camera drive, on 16mm. stock, mechanical, but much of it isn't, and Bielek's earliest activity is on that film in most detail. There is another guy with a 200 Iq., apparently.
I got one not far from where i lived i thought it was a phone tower but i was wrong
the way into most of the underground is in the Montauk townhall underground and the building near it. One method is to provide leases that will last 50 years as more of these older pale people start to die off with structures with plot and lot number history that is murky often a new company will spring up and take the place of the former.
Camp Hero is one VERY strange place...
For a place that is no longer in service, WHY do they have huge amounts of elec going into a tiny house?
They also have a brand new imtercom system at the front gate with a camera on it.
Hey Agreed 100% & Thanks for watching! Yes I have a video where we started pressing the buttons only moments before a parks police car came past. Actually that gate is not far from the building in this video. Thanks for the comment!
Many sub terrain entrances and connecting ways were likely sealed up time and again over the years. There is no doubt at one time or another Camp Hero had an extensive clandestine Military Intelligence Outpost on and under its ground operating in various capacities for many years. Now a days most everything is Centralized Out near Area 51 under the ranges extensive underground network of Man made cavern and tunnels and it remote access and high security.
Very Much Agreed Ric Dale & Thanks for watching! I have been exploring here since I was 12 yo and I am finally printing a book with as much hard documentation as i can, so I hope you stop back soon. Anyways, Thanks for checking it out!
You should be clear that the images you present are not of this site. You say you did not get access in your description of the video.
I did, at 16:15 before I show all of the images it says: "Sample of bunker construction: Photo log of a similar facility being built" which is something I often refer to when dealing with template based construction. Thank You though for pointing out it can be more more clear. Also, I found out there is no Coax bunker here. Yes, at the time It was my best guess that there was a Coax bunker here, until this week, I was corrected by a gentleman from the Telephone museum in Maine, that the nearest coax was in Hempstead, far to the West, so I was wrong about Shirley and Noyack as well. This is the only footage ever shot inside this building, and I have since determined that the space I can not access, is indeed a Bomb shelter, one of many fallout shelters on base I have records for. Unfortunately I can not correct the thumbnail or video without taking it down, but I will 100% change the details in my book to show the correction.
@@montaukisstrangethanks for the reply. I grew up on Long Island and worked for AT&T. Never visited this site though. Thanks for the tour. Hope it gets preserved.
@@WApnj No problem! Thanks for the comment & conversation on it, yes my Mother, Grandmother and Grandfather all worked at Ma Bell ; ) my fathers side was all military, I am the odd one out in the family lol Yeah, I hope it gets preserved as well, the equipment room is in pristine shape! Thanks for watching
@@montaukisstrange 👍 btw I believe those modules in the racks are amplifiers and filters not memory... Microwave relay was an analog system.
@@WApnjthe connections museum would preserve it
whats that sign say at 7:08?
Hey, I think it says "Safety does not cost a thing, until you forget it". Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange thanks!
My, my, one can only guess that the archaeologists of 5000 A.D. will think of all this.
I find it odd that they have stockpiles of Converse Fastbreak shoes which were first released in 1983 and are basketball/skateboard style shoes. Just seems odd to me
Yeah that was really Strange to see! I know those original in the box go for a couple of hundred dollars a pair, except the fact they probably smell of mildew. Great observation, I did not see too many people point that out! thanks for watching & the comment!
There are many people who swear they were taken to a CIA base 7 stories underground and this is a lot like what they described with the large antenna tower and building they went in and down an elevator
That sounds about right! They may also be referring to the SAGE AN/FPS-35 Radar tower that is at Montauk... Thanks for watching!
At 22:24 you see the nuclear explosion detector, not a vent.
Oh Thank You, I was looking for the Gamma Ray detector, the one at Grummans looks different so I did not realize. Thanks for checking it out & for the info!