"Almost but not quite" ... Couldn't have phrased it better. Think we know now why Keo is no longer included, he'd explode if you never let him finish a sentence.
Not to downgrade the Bok's 2 wins, but most rugby fans would wager that any one of the top 6 or 7 in the world rankings would be capable of doing the same thing. Joe Schmidt has a huge job just to make the Aussies competitive again when they play the big boys. Both the ABs and Argentina will expect to duplicate what the Boks have done in their upcoming fixtures against Australia, such is their standing at present, even with both bedding in new coaching regimes. Joe needs time to get them back to an acceptable level - I hope he gets it
All of the top 4/5 teams are similarly matched and can beat the other sides with regularity now. South Africa has a great team now, but they aren't the 2015 AB's who were a notch above everyone else.
@@benrobinson375 : Agreed but Australia is going through a really tough time right now and their world rankings reflect that. I would expect the #1 team in the world to make short work of them so I don't know why the South Africans are making such a big deal out of it. Let's see how they perform against New Zealand.
your estimation on the All Black victory over the Argies made me turn it off .They won by 6 tries to one and they predicted that the week before .How can you say the Argies never turned up ? They turned up and got completely closed down.
Appreciate the feedback mate but one cannot look past 1 simple fact and it is not disrespectful to the All Blacks. Argentina have beaten the All Blacks 3 times now. They have lost the next 3 games to the All blacks by an average of 39 points. When they achieve the improbable it is a bridge too far for the Pumas to put back to back performances against the mighty All Blacks.
As a kiwi i cannot wait for this series its gonna be a BANGER AFTER BANGER 😁🔥☝🏾🇳🇿🇿🇦 LETS GO BOYS!!! always a great match between these two rugby nations🤙🏾nuthin but love SA, nuthin but love CHEEEEHOOOOO!!!
ABs are not down just because of SA leaving. Kiwis pumped SA in Super Rugby regularly. The problem is the small population and less people playing rugby. Clubs are struggling to put teams on the field NZ has not been strong at U20 level for years now. We are too far away in the Southern Hemisphere to be commercially successful.
Everyone is hyping up the Springboks. This is basically the team that just beat the worst performing All Blacks side ever by 1 point in the RWC, while playing against 14 men (Bar a few injured players). But looking at it from a neutral point, you have to ask the question, recently, what have they done? Beat Wales, ranked 11th Beat Ireland, ranked 2nd Lost to Ireland Beat Portugal, ranked 15th Beat Australia twice, ranked 9th I'm not taking anything away from South Africa, but other than Ireland, they haven't been tested. This Springbok side hasn't changed like everyone thinks they have. They aren't suddenly the running expansive team like everyone claims. Against weaker sides they've played some amazing Rugby, but not against the top teams. I'm not trying to bury the Springboks, just calling it as I see it. Also, the last two Springboks wins against the All Blacks were against 14 men. Twickenham and the RWC final. Prior to that, one game was played in Mt Smart Stadium in Auckland, where the All Blacks blew them off the field in 20 minutes. The other was at Ellis Park where the Springboks were riding high on their confidence, only to get beaten by an All Blacks team that was low on confidence and struggling. If South Africa aren't careful, they will get exposed by Razor and this current All Blacks squad.
Schmidt is perfect for Auss, they progressing, they'll be competitive against the B&I Lions, and one of the favourites at the '27 WC. Boks have not let them play over the past two weeks, as a new and developing team, no chance against the world champs, and are literally in the first phase of their development. Don't underestimate them, theyre going to be quite a different team from '25...
@@LeMerch they playing the Lions mid '25, not tmrrw or the next day..comprehendo..thats 12mths time...lots of rugby & progress under Schmidt to happen in the interim...
Saw some glimpses of hope in the last two games for them. They’re still sorting out structures and defensive patterns, once that’s down they can focus on their attack and start winning games!
Boks will definitely win at least 1 test. So it’s 1:1 or 2:0 to the Boks. It all comes down to whether the Boks win the test that NZ would otherwise have won. We’ll know pretty soon which test that will be.
AB's in rebulding phase vs Boks in an escalating phase. Player for player not many (none?) AB's make a combined team b4 the game. This AB supporter hopes for an upset in one game - perhaps game 2 after a tonking in game 1. I'll be watching from behind the couch.
giving it 1-1 but boks to still take the comp. Boks have there identity in order whereas the ABs are in a void of uncertainty. ABs are also in the space where the boks were after the 2015 WC hence i say uncertainty because can they find that sweet spot and identity once again. Great Show
Springboks still in a learning curve with the new players, new coaches etc.etc We also going into that next gear from what we were in 2023. We definitely got some room for improvement and it's looking good i must say. We really stepping up now. Springboks we should not underestimate the All Blacks, they also slightly wounded with that loss to Argentina, they also lost a coach in Leon Macdonald. Also take into account they want a revenge match for the World Cup Final too.... I reckon Springboks must klap them for a KO.
Watchng the boks against the wallabies and the strength of their forward pack.. I hesitantly may have to agree with you.. espicially with the ABs going through their restructuring... but the ABs seem to grow another leg when playing at home..👍🏽👍🏽
From New Zealand Thought that analysis was fair. Springboks should be favorites simply for being at home. Add to that 2 solid wins v wallabies and All Blacks 1win 1 loss v Pumas. All Blacks still not convincing. I think at best they could come away 1-1
I’ll fix the woeful Wobblies to win the next World Cup , simple fix , I’d import big South African forwards peppered with a few speedy backs from Cape Town and give em Australian passports and you will have a great team for the next world cup, shit Ireland did it why not Australia 😊
Ok sweet, this means the boks only beat the wallabies 2 nil because they didn't turn up either. I still think it's going to be a boks clean sweep but could easily be 1-1. ABs are rebuilding whereas boks are very settled with minimal loss of players after the last RWC so if they can't win this year's rugby championship they never will. Because you know the ABs will be much stronger after this first year rebuilding phase.
I can see it now. Boks win .......we could all see this the mighty Boks are so great. Boks lose.....such a big mistake to drop ten players lost their momentum. Good point Zels three 1 point wins doesnt make Boks head and shoulders above everyone else. They are strong willed and powerful but struggle to score.
Love this channel and your insights. Just can’t look pass the fact that you criticised the new game plan and this team selection and in both occasions not mentioning that you got it wrong on both occasions.
@@kevinferguson4291 So sorry, putting my hand up and apologising it was Keo and Zas that had a crack at the game plan. I do love both channels and always watch you guys. Loyal subscriber here.
SA provincial teams ALWAYS had size and power through Super rugby .....yet that meant for very little the last 3-4 seasons they were in Super. NZ just whipped an Argie team 90% of them plying their trade in the French Top14.
Oh yeah you guys gonna sweep the ABs 2 zip. Losing to Ireland was a small bump in the road. You destroyed Australia. You guys got this, no pressure. Every coach is a rugby genius when they’re winning, when they’re losing not so much.
Interesting. 50/50 vs ireland. Thats now two losses and one win vs Ireland in 3 games. Two wins over Australia who are ranked lower than italy and the confidence is sky-high. Very interesting.
It's all about rebuilding phases for all teams after a world cup year. Results won't be true reflections of what teams are hoping to achieve going forward
They really don't like to give any credit. Argentina played amazing first half against the ABs first week with amazing ball control, then the opposite the following week. NZ played bad both 2nd halfs. Australia despite the conditions this 2nd week had better ball control and nearly every facet better than week 1 and should have been winning at half time if not missing the penalty.
Think you gentleman are wrong regarding the pumas they went into the Eden Park test with one mission to take the series and break the Eden Park record not a drop in mentality or preparation they come to win the fact they didn't turn up is the fact that the Abs were under intense pressure to perform and did not allow the pumas to dictate the game
They lost their last game against Ireland, beat a 15th ranked Portugal and won a couple of games against an Australian side that's in the midst of rebuilding. I wouldn't get over confident if I was a South Africa.
Im more worried about their backline standing so far apart in attack meaning they're gonna be running on our inside shoulders which we know with the blitz def can be an issue. Like the only try in the WC final from NZ.
If anyone can win in the Rebublic its the ABs. But i see just to many errors in the ABs game at present, the likes of kolbe and Arendse are great at pouncing on mistakes.
Best Lion's Team 🦁 to ever be assembled in the professional era versus the worst Wallabies 🦘 team in the professional era. It's going to be one-way traffic. The only silver lining for Australia 🇦🇺 is that Schmidt knows Farrell's playbook.👀
Don’t dis the All Blacks. The springboks fire hot and cold and as an expat from SA the All blacks are always dangerous. The Aussies are very weak right now so the springboks have not had a decent challenge yet. Let’s see what happens
@@chicky86-bu3po Don't be that dumbass that piss off the ABs. Remember the 1st game last year with the ABs beat SA at Mt Smart and everyone in SA said the Boks would beat them easily.
The Argentinian team have beaten. the All Blacks three times, after these wins they have then lost by an average of 39 points in the following game. Point being they never turn up after beating the All Blacks
@@kevinferguson4291 stop trying too justify insulting the all blacks point is the Argentinians were not allowed to play rugby because they were dominated by the all blacks
Rugby Australia need to invest a lot of money at school level ... there is no depth ... they won't be very competitive at their home RWC whatever they do, so suck it up, discard the old warhorses, start the youngsters now, let them grow in the crucible and maybe, just maybe they can add to their Webb Ellis Cups in the USA ... they need a 7-year plan, not a 'win next weekend' plan.
As a Bok supporter I am concerned about how SA's ex players and others are talking as if the Boks cannot be won! Sorry, any team can loose. They lost against Ireland who were better on the day. n The AB's never lie down. They were bomb shocked by Argentina who anyway can win any team when they want. Therefore the Boks must be humble and make sure they stay focused.
Saying Argentina did not show up is disrespectful to the accuracy and the pressure put on by the AB’s - typical Rassie Ball lickers -Scott is class though 👏
No coach can fix the wallabies in one season. Schmidt is a good option for them and he is being realistic about their goals and the time it will take. There is daylight between the current 9th ranked team and the top ranked boks. The boks really should have beaten the wallabies by more
As much as I do think Schmidt is the right man to have at the helm, ive also maintained Aus need more of a SA flavour to our coaching esp at regional/super level. We definitely miss them since they exited SR.
@@chicky86-bu3po and whenever the Boks lose, it is never their fault but the ref, the other team cheating, etc etc... history has it that whenever they start talking down on other teams they lose the game
Do you remember how weak the SA teams were the last 5 years they were in Super rugby? No one hated them. They just weren’t competitive so no one watched. Maybe some of your best Curry Cup teams could be included if they were interested??
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou You don’t know what you’re talking about. In the final season (2020) the Sharks topped the log and hadn’t lost to a single New Zealand side. In 2018, 2017 and 2016 the Lions played in every final.
@@jacquescoetzee47 what?. There were only 7 rounds in 2020 due covid so not even halfway through. Sharks only played 2 NZ teams - beat Highlanders and lost to Canes. The Lions lost every one of those finals to a NZ team and there was daylight to the next best SA side in those years.
Springboks beating a very poor Aussie side.They will not beat the mighty All Blacks that easy....Gonna b a tight finish to the Rugby Championship...AB.s all the way...
We see our players vs theirs, Richie havent played a single game. We believe man on man we can beat them, nevermind our new att ability and our dogged def. They lost 1st test because of ability to exit, which at international level is disgrace, they couldnt even adjust mid game which is a testament to a good team. We arent England who thought physicality and blitz def will win them a game, England att was rubbish, yet NZ didnt get to far ahead. We played Irish and only lost because of a drop against one of the best att other that NZ offcourse.
some commentators now crucify Zulu for missing to catch a ball at full speed and try to catch a ball in conditions equal to catching a bar of soap at full speed in the shower with your hands tied at the back...in a few weeks when in other conditions he does everything right they will proclaim how awesome he is....idiots. they miss the facts that overall in only his second start ever he did above average in general.
@wot4922 Aussie has always preferred league and rules over union.As for NZ ,league is on a ride here.So much talent going to league.There is a stack load of Nzers playing in the NRL.The Kiwis smashed the world Champ Kangaroos in the last meeting which was a buzz
Ozzie rugby is dead and they will get no sympathy from me sadly - Aus sports teams have made us suffer a lot over the decades. The Pumas best chance to do a double on them.
The amount of COPE to claim the All Blacks incredibly impressive win can be put down to the Argies 'only turning up to the hotel the night before..' and then he adds '..in my estimation..' Yeah exactly, only 'in your estimation' because thats a bunch of crap. What a complete waste of air time.
I'd be surprised if the AB's don't win both games, and by 10-15 points. They're slowly working their way back and tracking well. Personally, I don't think the Boks are as good as everyone makes them out to be. All the pressure will be on them to produce the goods and win well against the AB's. The AB's have the personnel to deal with Boks and they will work them out. The only way the AB's lose if they go into their shell, or if they lose players to red cards. To me, the Boks weren't convincing against the Irish and the Wallabies. The AB's lost to Argentina, but they'll be better for that experience. Funny how these blokes claim, Argentina losing the second test was only because they were still partying from the previous weekend, yet all the interviews with them during the week suggested different. Argentina were focussed and wanted to achieve more history. Maybe, just maybe the AB's out played them. These guys continued disrespect of every playing nation other then their beloved Boks is mind blowing. Disappointed that Gibbs allows himself to be part of that nonsense. Every time the AB's play in SA they're always the underdog, yet they win more often then not. Bookies...
Wow your opinion sucks. From your coach eating cheetos. Back to back world champions. Ill come back to this after The boks win 🏆 against the All Blacks
@@raymondhorn8041 Wow, unfortunately you're response to my comment is exactly what I expected from a boks supporter. Unintelligent and childish. What is wrong with you yarrrpies? Why is it that you guys get so triggered over someone's comments that doesn't favour the boks. It's just the way I see things, no buggy. Are you guys really that sensitive and insecure? Don't answer that question, I know the answer.
@@raymondhorn8041 Wow, your response to my comment is exactly what I expected from an SA supporter. What is wrong with you people? Why do SA supporters get triggered every time someone has an opinion that doesn't favour the boks? It's just my opinion, no biggie. Why are you guys so sensitive and insecure? No need to reply, I know the answer.
I believe its good that you don't believe the boks are that good....we have atleast 7 guys still out with either injuries or bans...and used wallabies for blooding a lot of our youth team or development team....please don't read too much into it😂....we also played with different combo's....but we will try and play our best team on the day....we have changed alot since the WC....you might just be very surprised after the 2nd Test...if the Boks walk out 2-0 Victors....not saying you guys are Bad and that it won't be close....but...I doubt you guys have the forwards to deal with us at this stage.
@@SSAucamp Like every rugby fan I try and follow as many teams as possible and understand how they're playing and managing their personnel. I think it's great that the boks are able to build depth and experience with different combinations and breed new blood. The fact that the boks beat the wallabies with an under strength team is impressive. Our all blacks have done the exact same thing 10 years ago. I just think there are weaknesses in their game that will be exploited by the AB's. In saying that, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the boks win both games, I just think they won't. But, if I'm wrong, I'm happy to eat humble pie and acknowledge the boks is the best team between the two and the world. Good luck. You're much better at this then the other guy. 👍
Imagine been so arrogant you think not been beaten for a year at home ground(or was it a month by the Irish) And then slag off the ABs unbeaten at Eden for 30 years. What gay losers do that?
Arrogant again. We're not arrogant...we just believe. How can we be arrogant when people like you take every chance you get to put us down. However we're thick-skinned people so you have fun dumping on us. We don't care.
We haven’t played at Eden Park since 2013 and only three times since 2001. That Eden Park record is one of the most carefully contrived records in the history of rugby. We’ve only lost four games on home soil in 2145 days. In that period New Zealand’s frequently lost to Argentina, South Africa and Ireland on home soil and lost a test series.
@@jacquescoetzee47 only because we didn't play in SA 2023, 2021, 2020, 2019 All Blacks have won 7 of the last 9 in South Africa 🤣 🤣. So as I said we beat you at home every year 🤦
Excellent show. You have a new Kiwi follower. Look forward to the next one.
Wallabies are not going to win a match this Rugby Championship
cheers mate. Appreciated
Zels you almost got to finish your thoughts there. Almost but not quite 😂😂
exactly! Scotty needs to learn some manners 🙄 Let Zels talk!
Almost 😂
"Almost but not quite" ... Couldn't have phrased it better.
Think we know now why Keo is no longer included, he'd explode if you never let him finish a sentence.
Yes I prefer Zel and Keo
Great episode
Not to downgrade the Bok's 2 wins, but most rugby fans would wager that any one of the top 6 or 7 in the world rankings would be capable of doing the same thing. Joe Schmidt has a huge job just to make the Aussies competitive again when they play the big boys. Both the ABs and Argentina will expect to duplicate what the Boks have done in their upcoming fixtures against Australia, such is their standing at present, even with both bedding in new coaching regimes. Joe needs time to get them back to an acceptable level - I hope he gets it
All of the top 4/5 teams are similarly matched and can beat the other sides with regularity now. South Africa has a great team now, but they aren't the 2015 AB's who were a notch above everyone else.
@@benrobinson375 : Agreed but Australia is going through a really tough time right now and their world rankings reflect that. I would expect the #1 team in the world to make short work of them so I don't know why the South Africans are making such a big deal out of it. Let's see how they perform against New Zealand.
Congrats boks for winning the the water polo, and Dricus.
As for water polo 😂😂
Excellent joke Zels... I laughed out loud. Dirkus now ranked 8th in Boksburg. Ive been living in the states for 32 years and its still funny
As a Bok supporter we need to take this comp, we never great in between WC and need to show our dominance.
Guys hanging out in Knysna that's nice! Beautifull town this is
your estimation on the All Black victory over the Argies made me turn it off .They won by 6 tries to one and they predicted that the week before .How can you say the Argies never turned up ? They turned up and got completely closed down.
Exactly i commented the same above
Appreciate the feedback mate but one cannot look past 1 simple fact and it is not disrespectful to the All Blacks. Argentina have beaten the All Blacks 3 times now. They have lost the next 3 games to the All blacks by an average of 39 points. When they achieve the improbable it is a bridge too far for the Pumas to put back to back performances against the mighty All Blacks.
As a kiwi i cannot wait for this series its gonna be a BANGER AFTER BANGER 😁🔥☝🏾🇳🇿🇿🇦 LETS GO BOYS!!! always a great match between these two rugby nations🤙🏾nuthin but love SA, nuthin but love CHEEEEHOOOOO!!!
As a South African let's have good rugby matches and let the best team win. 🇿🇦🇳🇿🏉💯💢💥💫
I hear you brother🤙🏾🇿🇦🇳🇿@@brianbarbarich1401
ABs are not down just because of SA leaving. Kiwis pumped SA in Super Rugby regularly. The problem is the small population and less people playing rugby. Clubs are struggling to put teams on the field
NZ has not been strong at U20 level for years now. We are too far away in the Southern Hemisphere to be commercially successful.
Kynsna!!! I miss that place. Zels is awesome.
doesn’t matter how specifically the question is directed at zels, scott answers it!!
All Blacks... thinking game they slow the game down when on attack where patience is key..far more clinical.
Zels is not his happy self on this program with these guys. The Keo and Zels show has the right dynamic to showcase his insights.
springboks have never been consistently dominant. I'm predicting a 2-0 All black win
Jamie Jospeh is the perfect example of drawing blood from a stone. He did it with the Highlanders in 2015 and then with Japan.
Eddie did it in 2015 bro
Everyone is hyping up the Springboks. This is basically the team that just beat the worst performing All Blacks side ever by 1 point in the RWC, while playing against 14 men (Bar a few injured players). But looking at it from a neutral point, you have to ask the question, recently, what have they done?
Beat Wales, ranked 11th
Beat Ireland, ranked 2nd
Lost to Ireland
Beat Portugal, ranked 15th
Beat Australia twice, ranked 9th
I'm not taking anything away from South Africa, but other than Ireland, they haven't been tested. This Springbok side hasn't changed like everyone thinks they have. They aren't suddenly the running expansive team like everyone claims. Against weaker sides they've played some amazing Rugby, but not against the top teams. I'm not trying to bury the Springboks, just calling it as I see it.
Also, the last two Springboks wins against the All Blacks were against 14 men. Twickenham and the RWC final. Prior to that, one game was played in Mt Smart Stadium in Auckland, where the All Blacks blew them off the field in 20 minutes. The other was at Ellis Park where the Springboks were riding high on their confidence, only to get beaten by an All Blacks team that was low on confidence and struggling.
If South Africa aren't careful, they will get exposed by Razor and this current All Blacks squad.
Just let zels speak for 10 min then begin the show
Hahahhahaha
Schmidt is perfect for Auss, they progressing, they'll be competitive against the B&I Lions, and one of the favourites at the '27 WC. Boks have not let them play over the past two weeks, as a new and developing team, no chance against the world champs, and are literally in the first phase of their development. Don't underestimate them, theyre going to be quite a different team from '25...
B&I Lions will absolutely rip that Aussie team to shreds. It won’t even be close after 30 minutes of the first game.
@@LeMerch they playing the Lions mid '25, not tmrrw or the next day..comprehendo..thats 12mths time...lots of rugby & progress under Schmidt to happen in the interim...
Totally agree 💚💛🇿🇦
Saw some glimpses of hope in the last two games for them. They’re still sorting out structures and defensive patterns, once that’s down they can focus on their attack and start winning games!
With the 6 nations consistently getting better. The bi lions will be unstoppable in the future.... Oz will take a beat down
We will see.... ABs definitely gonna break some hearts in SA the pressure is all on the boks
Boks will definitely win at least 1 test. So it’s 1:1 or 2:0 to the Boks. It all comes down to whether the Boks win the test that NZ would otherwise have won. We’ll know pretty soon which test that will be.
Boks will win all 4 remaining tests.
@@Alias-gy3tz never write off the ABs - they could definitely nick a test
never right off Argentina at home.... or please do... 😆
Agree 1-1 would be good.
All blacks often win in SA. Look the last years . Even Ireland won . All blacks can do 2-0
Stay humble Boks. We never do well if we start puffing chasts
AB's in rebulding phase vs Boks in an escalating phase. Player for player not many (none?) AB's make a combined team b4 the game. This AB supporter hopes for an upset in one game - perhaps game 2 after a tonking in game 1. I'll be watching from behind the couch.
giving it 1-1 but boks to still take the comp. Boks have there identity in order whereas the ABs are in a void of uncertainty. ABs are also in the space where the boks were after the 2015 WC hence i say uncertainty because can they find that sweet spot and identity once again. Great Show
Springboks still in a learning curve with the new players, new coaches etc.etc We also going into that next gear from what we were in 2023. We definitely got some room for improvement and it's looking good i must say. We really stepping up now.
Springboks we should not underestimate the All Blacks, they also slightly wounded with that loss to Argentina, they also lost a coach in Leon Macdonald. Also take into account they want a revenge match for the World Cup Final too....
I reckon Springboks must klap them for a KO.
I remember hearing that in 2022 and then NZ won the second test while in a form slump.
Watchng the boks against the wallabies and the strength of their forward pack.. I hesitantly may have to agree with you.. espicially with the ABs going through their restructuring... but the ABs seem to grow another leg when playing at home..👍🏽👍🏽
From New Zealand
Thought that analysis was fair.
Springboks should be favorites simply for being at home.
Add to that 2 solid wins v wallabies and All Blacks 1win 1 loss v Pumas.
All Blacks still not convincing.
I think at best they could come away 1-1
I’ll fix the woeful Wobblies to win the next World Cup , simple fix , I’d import big South African forwards peppered with a few speedy backs from Cape Town and give em Australian passports and you will have a great team for the next world cup, shit Ireland did it why not Australia 😊
Im just glad i can finally bet on my All Blacks. Finally get some odds worth betting on 😂😂
Ok sweet, this means the boks only beat the wallabies 2 nil because they didn't turn up either.
I still think it's going to be a boks clean sweep but could easily be 1-1. ABs are rebuilding whereas boks are very settled with minimal loss of players after the last RWC so if they can't win this year's rugby championship they never will. Because you know the ABs will be much stronger after this first year rebuilding phase.
8th in Boksburg 😂😂😂 im dead 🤣🤣🤣
I can see it now. Boks win .......we could all see this the mighty Boks are so great. Boks lose.....such a big mistake to drop ten players lost their momentum. Good point Zels three 1 point wins doesnt make Boks head and shoulders above everyone else. They are strong willed and powerful but struggle to score.
Can Scott stop chipping in when Zels is speaking? Otherwise there is no point in having Zels there.
Good lord but Scott Gibbs can waffle 😂😂
But he's a legend .
@@johncraig9011 yes I know what’s your point ?
Love this channel and your insights. Just can’t look pass the fact that you criticised the new game plan and this team selection and in both occasions not mentioning that you got it wrong on both occasions.
I don’t believe Scotty or I critiqued the game plan mate. Thanks for the comments though. ))
@@kevinferguson4291
So sorry, putting my hand up and apologising it was Keo and Zas that had a crack at the game plan. I do love both channels and always watch you guys. Loyal subscriber here.
@@johnnybreedt3653 Thanks mate really appreciate the feedback.
SA provincial teams ALWAYS had size and power through Super rugby .....yet that meant for very little the last 3-4 seasons they were in Super.
NZ just whipped an Argie team 90% of them plying their trade in the French Top14.
True story. But don't feel bad Kiwis. Die Bokke are playing well, but also have tremendous depth at every position.
Oh yeah you guys gonna sweep the ABs 2 zip. Losing to Ireland was a small bump in the road. You destroyed Australia. You guys got this, no pressure. Every coach is a rugby genius when they’re winning, when they’re losing not so much.
Interesting. 50/50 vs ireland. Thats now two losses and one win vs Ireland in 3 games. Two wins over Australia who are ranked lower than italy and the confidence is sky-high. Very interesting.
All Blacks are on the chopping block. ABSOLUTELY.
It's all about rebuilding phases for all teams after a world cup year. Results won't be true reflections of what teams are hoping to achieve going forward
Let's go boy'ssssssss!
Money man remember the Nelspruit show down when All Blacks was Beaten, then the swunsong Ellis Park. Becarefull what you which for.
Look at the last years . All blacks often won in SA . With top coach Razor , they can even win the both tests.
They really don't like to give any credit.
Argentina played amazing first half against the ABs first week with amazing ball control, then the opposite the following week. NZ played bad both 2nd halfs.
Australia despite the conditions this 2nd week had better ball control and nearly every facet better than week 1 and should have been winning at half time if not missing the penalty.
Think you gentleman are wrong regarding the pumas they went into the Eden Park test with one mission to take the series and break the Eden Park record not a drop in mentality or preparation they come to win the fact they didn't turn up is the fact that the Abs were under intense pressure to perform and did not allow the pumas to dictate the game
They lost their last game against Ireland, beat a 15th ranked Portugal and won a couple of games against an Australian side that's in the midst of rebuilding. I wouldn't get over confident if I was a South Africa.
Don't underestimate the All Blacks there ball handling skills are superb.
Im more worried about their backline standing so far apart in attack meaning they're gonna be running on our inside shoulders which we know with the blitz def can be an issue. Like the only try in the WC final from NZ.
When has any South African underestimated the ABs. They beat us much more than we beat them.
Hoping for a 1 - 1 in the next 2 games.
It’s hard to be on top when you are going backwards no matter how good your handling skills are. We shall see.
We won 2 games away from home all blacks lost to argintina...
Right, putting lots on the Kiwis to take at least one game.
good bet, unfortunately as a saffa. would love to take it all and leave nothing on the table...if not now then when...
Be prepared to lose a bunch of money mate
Bring back Eddie as a consultant for the Wallabies. No, No 😂😂😂
Eddie Jones, is the answer to a question no one asked
I guess he went to France for the croissants after all🤣🤣
If anyone can win in the Rebublic its the ABs. But i see just to many errors in the ABs game at present, the likes of kolbe and Arendse are great at pouncing on mistakes.
Nothing more enjoyable than prooving big mouth 'Money Man' wrong. Hopefully we have 15 players this time!
Best Lion's Team 🦁 to ever be assembled in the professional era versus the worst Wallabies 🦘 team in the professional era. It's going to be one-way traffic. The only silver lining for Australia 🇦🇺 is that Schmidt knows Farrell's playbook.👀
I'm sure every top ranked side has studied Farrell's playbook - Problem is he wrote it in pencil so everything can change at a moment's notice.
Don’t dis the All Blacks. The springboks fire hot and cold and as an expat from SA the All blacks are always dangerous. The Aussies are very weak right now so the springboks have not had a decent challenge yet. Let’s see what happens
Yet they lost to argintina
Take it from an Aussie, don't poke the NZ bear.
The last time the Boks and Saffas talked themselves up they lost 57 - 0
57 0 ancient history mate...talk bout now..under this current coach and assistants ..not predictable as NZ always has been
@@chicky86-bu3po Don't be that dumbass that piss off the ABs. Remember the 1st game last year with the ABs beat SA at Mt Smart and everyone in SA said the Boks would beat them easily.
Give Joe Schmidt some time
The Auzzie problem lies deep…⁉️
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Uncontested scrums. Maybe the Aussies prefer League to Union.
The wallabies are brocken its going to take some time .
Time and a shed load of money.
dont insult the All Blacks by saying Argentina didnt turn up Argentina were not aloud to play springboks will be favorites
The Argentinian team have beaten. the All Blacks three times, after these wins they have then lost by an average of 39 points in the following game. Point being they never turn up after beating the All Blacks
@@kevinferguson4291 stop trying too justify insulting the all blacks point is the Argentinians were not allowed to play rugby because they were dominated by the all blacks
Keep in mind the australian team are perhaps top 15-20 rank in the world. And lets face it south africa made hard work of it.
Rugby Australia need to invest a lot of money at school level ... there is no depth ... they won't be very competitive at their home RWC whatever they do, so suck it up, discard the old warhorses, start the youngsters now, let them grow in the crucible and maybe, just maybe they can add to their Webb Ellis Cups in the USA ... they need a 7-year plan, not a 'win next weekend' plan.
As a Bok supporter I am concerned about how SA's ex players and others are talking as if the Boks cannot be won! Sorry, any team can loose. They lost against Ireland who were better on the day. n The AB's never lie down. They were bomb shocked by Argentina who anyway can win any team when they want. Therefore the Boks must be humble and make sure they stay focused.
All blacks 2 games to nil💪👊
U are a nutter. Boks to overpower the mighty ABs. Yeah watch this space.
Saying Argentina did not show up is disrespectful to the accuracy and the pressure put on by the AB’s - typical Rassie Ball lickers -Scott is class though 👏
Boks need to leave some of their confidence in the change room. These two games can go either way.
I don't think the Boks themselves are overconfident - its a lot of the armchair critics
Wallabies need a SA coach and there are plenty out there
No, Schmidt is perfect for them!
@ianbrodie5051 maybe a forwards coach and kicking
No coach can fix the wallabies in one season. Schmidt is a good option for them and he is being realistic about their goals and the time it will take. There is daylight between the current 9th ranked team and the top ranked boks. The boks really should have beaten the wallabies by more
The New Zeelanders are the best coaches.Assistant coaches to the Springboks and Argentina ,head coach Australia.
As much as I do think Schmidt is the right man to have at the helm, ive also maintained Aus need more of a SA flavour to our coaching esp at regional/super level. We definitely miss them since they exited SR.
You talk much before . Ireland won in July . Foster won last year at Ellis park.
Yes U won coz of 2 tries that were disallowed..always getting away with forward passes
@@chicky86-bu3po and whenever the Boks lose, it is never their fault but the ref, the other team cheating, etc etc... history has it that whenever they start talking down on other teams they lose the game
Woeful wobllies gave the ball away 3 times trying risking kicks to players in wet weather when they was going forward.
Southern Hemisphere Rugby is dead without the South African franchise rugby. They must just stop their hate. Beg South African rugby to come back
Do you remember how weak the SA teams were the last 5 years they were in Super rugby?
No one hated them. They just weren’t competitive so no one watched.
Maybe some of your best Curry Cup teams could be included if they were interested??
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou You don’t know what you’re talking about. In the final season (2020) the Sharks topped the log and hadn’t lost to a single New Zealand side. In 2018, 2017 and 2016 the Lions played in every final.
@@jacquescoetzee47 what?. There were only 7 rounds in 2020 due covid so not even halfway through. Sharks only played 2 NZ teams - beat Highlanders and lost to Canes. The Lions lost every one of those finals to a NZ team and there was daylight to the next best SA side in those years.
Springboks beating a very poor Aussie side.They will not beat the mighty All Blacks that easy....Gonna b a tight finish to the Rugby Championship...AB.s all the way...
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write off the all blacks i just love it disregard "them pride comes before the fall"
We see our players vs theirs, Richie havent played a single game. We believe man on man we can beat them, nevermind our new att ability and our dogged def. They lost 1st test because of ability to exit, which at international level is disgrace, they couldnt even adjust mid game which is a testament to a good team. We arent England who thought physicality and blitz def will win them a game, England att was rubbish, yet NZ didnt get to far ahead. We played Irish and only lost because of a drop against one of the best att other that NZ offcourse.
some commentators now crucify Zulu for missing to catch a ball at full speed and try to catch a ball in conditions equal to catching a bar of soap at full speed in the shower with your hands tied at the back...in a few weeks when in other conditions he does everything right they will proclaim how awesome he is....idiots. they miss the facts that overall in only his second start ever he did above average in general.
ABs win both 😈
That 2nd half of the all blacks should be very worrying for them
nah they just subbed a bunch for shits and giggles because they could. Tried a few extra things out
@@MelRussek no the fick they didnt. That was their best bench
pride comes before a fall - love to see it
AB’s missing 1-2 world class loosies to support Ardie, been like that for last few years now … that may be impacting their win rate dropping
All Blacks are for more clinical.
your entitled to your opinion, all be it incorrect.
No he is right. ALl Blacks are clinical@@vaughanlancellas495
Remember Australians popular sports are Aussie rules, NRL, Cricket, rugby inion is about 4th popular
That's what Irish fans say when they lose
Every Rugby nation can claim the same except for NZ. Maybe OZ prefers League to Union.
Add in soccer,so union is 5th
@wot4922 Aussie has always preferred league and rules over union.As for NZ ,league is on a ride here.So much talent going to league.There is a stack load of Nzers playing in the NRL.The Kiwis smashed the world Champ Kangaroos in the last meeting which was a buzz
Ozzie rugby is dead and they will get no sympathy from me sadly - Aus sports teams have made us suffer a lot over the decades. The Pumas best chance to do a double on them.
Winning % is 75% what are you talking about. We miss the Bok teams out it doesn’t Stop us getting to finals. Bok teams hardly won a thing
You only won that qtr because of joe because he was brought in just before WC. That lineout try was probably his idea.
Remember Joe coached Ireland for a few years Andy was his successor.
Funny thing is our youngsters haf WC to show .Richie Mounga..DM Jordan..has those guys won a WC before
Now let’s hear from Gibbs - never got close to a single in v ABs
What u talking about?
Sa b nx. ..2/0
The amount of COPE to claim the All Blacks incredibly impressive win can be put down to the Argies 'only turning up to the hotel the night before..' and then he adds '..in my estimation..'
Yeah exactly, only 'in your estimation' because thats a bunch of crap. What a complete waste of air time.
You lads going to get humbled again in SA
Are you from Scotland?
SA boring rugby just skrums and mauls that's all no skills 😮
And their Bomb Squad - that got defused by Ireland.
I'd be surprised if the AB's don't win both games, and by 10-15 points. They're slowly working their way back and tracking well. Personally, I don't think the Boks are as good as everyone makes them out to be. All the pressure will be on them to produce the goods and win well against the AB's. The AB's have the personnel to deal with Boks and they will work them out. The only way the AB's lose if they go into their shell, or if they lose players to red cards.
To me, the Boks weren't convincing against the Irish and the Wallabies. The AB's lost to Argentina, but they'll be better for that experience.
Funny how these blokes claim, Argentina losing the second test was only because they were still partying from the previous weekend, yet all the interviews with them during the week suggested different. Argentina were focussed and wanted to achieve more history. Maybe, just maybe the AB's out played them.
These guys continued disrespect of every playing nation other then their beloved Boks is mind blowing. Disappointed that Gibbs allows himself to be part of that nonsense.
Every time the AB's play in SA they're always the underdog, yet they win more often then not. Bookies...
Wow your opinion sucks. From your coach eating cheetos.
Back to back world champions. Ill come back to this after The boks win 🏆 against the All Blacks
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Wow, unfortunately you're response to my comment is exactly what I expected from a boks supporter. Unintelligent and childish. What is wrong with you yarrrpies? Why is it that you guys get so triggered over someone's comments that doesn't favour the boks. It's just the way I see things, no buggy. Are you guys really that sensitive and insecure? Don't answer that question, I know the answer.
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Wow, your response to my comment is exactly what I expected from an SA supporter.
What is wrong with you people? Why do SA supporters get triggered every time someone has an opinion that doesn't favour the boks? It's just my opinion, no biggie.
Why are you guys so sensitive and insecure? No need to reply, I know the answer.
I believe its good that you don't believe the boks are that good....we have atleast 7 guys still out with either injuries or bans...and used wallabies for blooding a lot of our youth team or development team....please don't read too much into it😂....we also played with different combo's....but we will try and play our best team on the day....we have changed alot since the WC....you might just be very surprised after the 2nd Test...if the Boks walk out 2-0 Victors....not saying you guys are Bad and that it won't be close....but...I doubt you guys have the forwards to deal with us at this stage.
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Like every rugby fan I try and follow as many teams as possible and understand how they're playing and managing their personnel. I think it's great that the boks are able to build depth and experience with different combinations and breed new blood. The fact that the boks beat the wallabies with an under strength team is impressive. Our all blacks have done the exact same thing 10 years ago. I just think there are weaknesses in their game that will be exploited by the AB's.
In saying that, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the boks win both games, I just think they won't. But, if I'm wrong, I'm happy to eat humble pie and acknowledge the boks is the best team between the two and the world.
Good luck. You're much better at this then the other guy. 👍
This program sucks 😮😮
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So does your mum
The boks will ANNIHILATE
Imagine been so arrogant you think not been beaten for a year at home ground(or was it a month by the Irish)
And then slag off the ABs unbeaten at Eden for 30 years.
What gay losers do that?
Arrogant again. We're not arrogant...we just believe. How can we be arrogant when people like you take every chance you get to put us down. However we're thick-skinned people so you have fun dumping on us. We don't care.
We haven’t played at Eden Park since 2013 and only three times since 2001. That Eden Park record is one of the most carefully contrived records in the history of rugby.
We’ve only lost four games on home soil in 2145 days. In that period New Zealand’s frequently lost to Argentina, South Africa and Ireland on home soil and lost a test series.
@@jacquescoetzee47we beat you nearly every year in South Africa??
@@murraysmith595 Wrong. You last won in South Africa in 2022, and the time before that was 2018.
@@jacquescoetzee47 only because we didn't play in SA 2023, 2021, 2020, 2019 All Blacks have won 7 of the last 9 in South Africa 🤣 🤣. So as I said we beat you at home every year 🤦