Four Beautiful Vintage Bokeh Beasts - And A Tilt Lens Adaptor!
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Four unique background blur producing lenses, and an M42 tilting lens adaptor discussed and reviewed, with sample images.
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1. Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35 mm f2.4
2. Kamlan 50 mm f1.1
3. Olympus Zuiko 50mm 1.4
4. Olympus E. Zuiko Auto-t 200 mm f/4
5. Tilt Lens Adaptor
Thank you. Great review. Can the OM Zuiko 500mm f1.4 be used on a Canon EOS 6D camera? Thank you...
@@franzscaramelli2651 oh boy. Imagine how massive a 500mm f/1.4 would be. Lol
Better yet, imagine trying to achieve focus with a monster like that
@@franzscaramelli2651 to answer your question though- no. The flange distance of Olympus lenses is incompatible with EF mount cameras unless you do a very elaborate mount swap which requires some machining.
@@vikmanphotography7984 Thank you for your information.
@@franzscaramelli2651 for vintage lenses on an EF mount Canon camera, you're stuck with m42, Nikon F, and larger medium format mounts like M645 and Pentax 67 mounts.
I think the miniature effect is due to the fact that we are accustomed to see pictures and videos of toys with macro lenses or anyway at macro distances where the background is very out of focus, so when we see a similar ratio of in focus and out of focus obtained with a tilt adapter our brain associates it to the toys.
I guess that could well be it, thanks!
yep. it's the very shallow depth of field at large distances. i've seen it on a "normal" lens as well, such as the (prototype) canon 400mm f/2 in one of cristopher frost's videos.
Great video yet again! Love your stuff, keep it up
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
A charming upload that filled my head with bubbles...
:) I'm glad to hear it!
Honestly, I am just listening to this while doing dishes. I came for the information on bokeh, but I stayed for the deeply romantic feel of your explanation of these lenses. You should read poetry.
Thank you!
Another great video. Was pleased to spot that busker in the first frame who I have also photographed in Blackburn :)
Oh my gosh, small world! Thanks for watching!
Another absolutely superb video! Keep on. Regards Ulf
Many thanks!
7:49 In portrait-shots long teles tend to emphesise background-structures. With longer teles you have more seperation between your camera and the model. This minimises blur. And longer teles bring the background-structures closer, so they get more pronounce.
I agree with the miniatures effect being due to very limited zone of sharp focus. I own the Lensbaby which is a lens attached to a tilt base. I love it but agree that it needs to be used sparingly with suitable subjects.
I love that effect for tight portraits though. Just the eyes in focus? Yes please. And way more convenient than my 4x5 camera (although that is an admittedly superior setup for "tilt/shift" when you have the time)
I adapt a mamiya 80mm 1.9 with a fotodiox TS adapter.
I use flektogon 35 on m4/3 body for street and for getting vintage mood into photos, it is 70 mm for me but I generaly like longer lenses
Tilt adapters are great. The toy effect works when you look down on the scene with plane of focus running across the image.
Ita comes about because when you try to take a photo of toys up close you end up looking down onto the toys so they the plane of focus a only cuts across some of the toys and gives a shallow depth of field similar to using the tilt lens from above.
Thanks for the explanation!
Fantastic Review! It's time to take out the zuiko 200mm f4.Thanks for sharing!
And thanks for watching!
I like tilting and shifting lenses. It's necessary to make a lot of test, but when you begin to understand the
mysteries of the Scheimpflug rules, the results are amazing. I use genuine T/S lenses, and adapters also, on MFT, FF, and MF cameras. One of the nicest result is the possibility to choose by tilting which part of the image will be sharp in a portrait, or to modify the perspective in landscape photography by shifting. You can also modify the DOF.... I love your video which are full of informations, and because you are very understandable for a nonenglish speaker! Thanks
The Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 is also available for Canon EF-M. It's one of my favorite lenses- though there is a Mark II version out now that I need to try.
I'd like to give that mark 2 a spin too!
What I love about the The Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 is that it is not expensive and performs so well
Got the MK2 for my GH5 for £140-150 off one of those chinese websites like ali express, forgot which site it was. Delivered from China. Such a nice heavy, metal lens with a huge front optics that looks gorgeous. It performs so well as well. Never getting rid of it only because of the price I paid and what I got for so little money.
Hello, Great review! As always! Just a little question, which Tilt Shift adaptor would recommend for using M42 mouth lenses with a Nikon D850 F mouth? If there´s any ofc, many thanks!
Thanks for great video
would you mind placing the product descriptions in the information section. Great talk thanks your inspirational.
What mirrorless camera would you recommend on a budget but wanting quality video raw ?
Well, it depends what your budget is of course, and whether you want to buy new or secondhand. The first Sony A7 can still be bought new for about £800 or so - a fantastic camera, and full frame means vintage lenses perform as designed. A secondhand A7 would be even cheaper.
There are lots of micro four thirds cameras available both new and used, the Olympus ep series are excellent, and the Panasonic G and GH cameras are excellent too, and shoot really good video. A secondhand GH3 might be good for you?
There is also the Yi camera from China, with micro four thirds sensor and (IIRC) 4K video! These are very cheap brand new and may be a good option for you.
@@zenography7923 sorry to speak on behalf of wakara but I'd guess they were mostly referring to the names of the featured lenses. It would be helpful to just have for example "Olympus zoukio 50mm 1.4" without trying to find the name in the video after already watching.
You've done it! You found the universal Corgi® adapter! :D
9:54 This kind of image is a bit like the diorama effect in the Olympus OMD EM10II art filters. Maybe it fools the eye into perceiving there is very low depth of field, which makes you think that objects are close by and very small, like model toys.
I know that you're fond of your Flektogon 35mm f2.4 but how does it compare with the CZJ 35mm f2.4 Praktica mount version?
I've just picked up a copy in the PK mount for half the cost of the Flek and it seems fine. Is there a difference or is it just the must have for the Flektogon name?
Liked the write up on the tilt adapter. I have the Samyang 24mm f3.5 TS in my Sony a7rii and it's great fun.
The reason tilt lenses/adapters give the appearance of models is that it causes the straighter lines to look vertical/horizontal where they would be slightly angled in a normal lens, and models, being as small as items usually seen as distance, have the same effect.
That certainly makes sense, thanks!
just wondering, how much does the tilt adapter vignette on a full frame camera? Thanks!
It didn't vignette badly at all - no more than the lens without the adaptor would, as far as I can tell!
So interesting - I have loads of lenses
So, I found out the hard way that I cannot adapt Canon FD lenses to my EOS 5D Classic without a more pricey correcting adapter; but, I would like to know if screw-mount lenses would be any different, such as M43 or M42, etc. Do you have some advice concerning this? Thanks! Also, your videos are pretty dawg goned cool!!
Hi, glad you're enjoying the videos! I can't say for sure, but I would think M42 lenses would be adaptable to your Canon. As for M43 lenses, if you mean micro four thirds, they will not adapt. Thanks for watching.
Jonathan Ahrens M42 screw adapts to EF perfectly.
Hi ... I have a Flektagon that I inherited .... is there any way I can use it my fed 2 or zorki 4?
I'm afraid not - SLR and rangefinder lenses are designed to focus at a different point and just won't mix I'm afraid!
Hello I found this video fascinating I’m new to the mirror less world I just bought a Nikon Z6 can any of these lenses be adapted for Nikon any advice would be appreciated
Hi Karen, I'm glad to say that, as with all mirrorless cameras, pretty much any lens (with a few exceptions) will work on your Z6. Welcome to mirrorless!
The problem you might run into is adapters.
I'm not sure if there are any made yet, someone else can answer that.
If not, it won't take long for someone to start manufacturing them
Nice video. Where kan i buy the tiltadapter ? Best regards from Sweden.
Hi, I got mine from ebay, just search for tilt adaptor.
good stuff
I have a similar tilt adapter and it sure is great fun. Just like with your adapter it has max 8° tilt. But shouldn't the scale be from 0 to 8 rather than from 1 to 8? :D And arent't the scale also upside down and the position should be zero when there's no tilt? :D Haha, oh man. But great fun.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Since this is my first try with a tilt adaptor, and the adaptor itself is a very cheap one, I shouldn't be surprised if you're right! Thanks for watching.
New microphone/sound setup? Sounds good.
Yes, I've been working on improving sound quality, glad it seems to be working!
I think the reason for the tilt model feel is obviously the sallow dof feel, that we mainly see in macro photography.
I think it must be something to do with that...
I am an amateur photographer and I really want to use old lenses, I was about to buy one but... I need to mount those glasses on a sony E mount APS-C body.
Sorry for the dumb question:
Do I need to get a speedbooster or focal reducer first, for better results?
Any suggestion?
Thanks If any comment...
It depends what you want to achieve. On a crop sensor body, lenses made for 35mm film (or full frame) use a more central part of the image, discarding the outer regions, so a 50mm lens will give you about the same field of view as a 75mm lens on full frame. This isn't really a handicap, although the speedbooster/focal reducer approach would allow the lenses to function nearer to their full frame performance. Hope that helps!
@@zenography7923 That's what I thought... Of course it helps. Thank you. very much.
Another great video, informative and entertaining. You asked why the tilt lens made objects look like toys. My first DSLR could simulate this and actually called it Toy scene mode. I think it is because we know how things should look even if we can't explain it. If we photograph a street scene full of cars, we have an expectation of how quickly the focussed area will fall out of focus on either side of the subject. If you change that to fall off more rapidly then we know that this is usually the result of photographing something much smaller and from closer to. What could be smaller than cars? Toy cars. I hope this is right as it is just a guess. Here's hoping someone else replies who actually knows. Tim
I think you're right, it's certainly something to do with a learned perception, which begs the question, if perception is learned, do we ever see reality (whatever that is) as it really is? Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@zenography7923 You are right, we can't be sure what reallity is. We might yet be a computer program, but even if the world out there is real and we are interacting with it, the most we can say is that reality is what our brains say it is.
The Leica 35mm Elmarit also produces a nice bokeh at 2.8.
I've heard it's a nice lens but haven't tried it - perhaps someday!
The best vocal sleeping pill, ha!
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Try the Auton Chinon F1.7 55mm. The Bokeh is unique.
Chinon lenses coming soon!
About this tilt adapter.
From M42 to what mount ?
M42 to Sony emount - all my stills are shot on the Sony A7.
Many thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
You know.... if I am shooting manual focus I use red focus peaking and a black and white film simulation. Black and white screen with red focus peaking. I use a Fujifilm camera.
I think those Fuji film simulations are perhaps the best single feature of any digital camera, and have often been tempted to get one for their sake alone.
I can attest to the Zuiko 50mm 1.4, I have the later MC version and it really does produce dreamy images on my A7III. The characteristics are very different from modern lenses and its a joy to use. Another lens I have that I can speak to is the Helios 44. I have the Helios 44m-7 version from the early 90's and it swirls the background beautifully, but I noticed it's difficult for portraits unless you have your subjects face in the dead center because the swirl will overlap the face in any other position. Which is where my Zuiko comes in handy. It's much more versatile than the Helios.
These are two of my favourite lenses, both make fantastic images. If you like swirl by the way, try a Helios 40 - it's the swirly king!
I'm surprised that you didn't include a 135mm (either common 2.8 or excotic like 2.5)
Or a Jupiter 9 for that matter at 85mm f2.
10:12 Everything looks like toys, becaus there is much more out of focus. This can only be done in closeups, normally.
There is always a depth of field problem when photographing models that can't normally happen with the real thing, when you do create it, it gives the subject that appearance you only see with models.
It must be something to do with that - interesting that our perception can be so easily fooled!
I think the "model effect" is because it tricks your brain by changing virtualy the DOF.
Let's take a "car #1" that is real size and a "car #2" that is the miniature version of number 1.
If the car number 1 is pretty far from your eyes and the car number 2 is close enough then they'll both look almost the same "size" within your field of view. Anyway you perfectly know the number 1 is real because the large DOF tells you it is far away : the car and everything around is neat. And for the same reason you know the number 2 is a miniature taht is close to you because the shallow DOF tells you so : the car is neat but everything around is blury.
With the tilt effect, you see the distant car number 1 with the same amount of blur as you should have with car number 2. So your brain believes your looking at car number 2.
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I can't help but think that bokeh is an overrated characteristic. I don't think I recall term ever being used before the late 1990's.
Irrespective of today's hype, “isolation", "blur", "Freistellung", "selective focusing" etc. has always been one of many composition aspects. The - very respectable - Japanese photographers (and manufacturers) have helped to spread somewhat of a bokeh fetish of sorts. I agree.