We Figured Out How Long Alpha 2 Will Be
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Ashes of Creation is an Immersive huge open world Sandpark MMORPG that is redefining the gaming landscape. Created for fans of PVP, PVE, and Roleplay, this ever-changing world promises the ultimate MMO experience. This game, which began development in 2016 and upgraded to Unreal Engine 5 in 2021, is now on the cusp of revolutionizing the MMORPG genre. Intrepid Studios are working towards delivering these highly requested features to an old school playerbase waiting for that MMORPG to bring them back to the golden age of the early 2000s:9 different playable races with both male and female options.A massive 1200 square kilometer world size at launch with 85 Nodes.A fully open world game with no loading screens, offering complete freedom to explore.A rich array of features including Dungeons, Raids, World Bosses, Open World PVP, Caravan PVP, castle sieges, node sieges, arenas, duels, guild wars, and more.A vibrant player-driven economy, crafting and artisan system, political system, citizenship, player run shops, taverns with parlor games, and a unique character customization system.Ashes of Creation offers an experience like no other, combining the best elements of both sandbox and theme park MMOs. This is a game built by an MMO fan for MMO fans, fully funded and committed to a zero pay-to-win model. 
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2030 AoC moves to UE6 delaying release another decade
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lmao I could see it happening
I thought the same
Let the developers cook! 😂 UE 14 for the release date!
Haha yeah, if alpha alone runs for this long the game is probably DoA... The hype will have run out entirely and nothing produced could meet nearly 15(?) years of expectations
We have 6 years to spawn kids and have more party members
Way ahead of you. Haha.
Got 4 Kickstarter packs for the kids to use one day. Who knew they would be 10+ by the time they could use it. I say it worked out 😂
5 Videos in a week. God damn, the copium is high.
Aye, the Children inside the Copium Mines are Working without breaks and overtime. 😅
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Cope? This is doomium.
Narc's guess is January 15th, 2030 for those who just want the info.
Which is WIIILD!! But not unbelievable sadly
That is Unbelievable troll bullshit. If ANYONE has a ANY belief that this game will survive in any form with a date like that they're fuckin nuts. The cost of development, the slow loss of people interested/giving up faith, and the looming competition (Amazon's LOTR, Riots LoL Mmo, Dune releasing soon, and whatever we dont know is coming yet within SIX years). I've been watching AoC from the start but not even I am that naive. If they announce that, they're gonna die out 100%
@@Wasthatrob Riots MMO haha good joke.
@@Wasthatrob dude they have a playable game filling the contnet and creating zones is way easier than putting togehter systems like server meshing.. only bigger delay i see is unreal6 potentially.. 3 years max for the game
@@WasthatrobAmazon will release another copy paste slop like new world. Riot MMO has been scraped essentially, they have started almost completely over. Dune will not attract that many players as it's a survival MMO. And nothing that big has been announced so far.
AOC has been my last hope for a good MMO and with the QnA and the recent showcase I have lost that hope. MMO genre has died for the 2nd time before it even had a chance to be reborn.
That Sound Xplosions person sounds like a smart guy
Teehee
Sound Xplosions is a cool guy
Waiting to see Asmon's smile when he pauses on "2030" when he reacts to this video.
2030 sounds actually reasonable.
I'd put a 10% delay as well for unforseen stuff. So add 4 more 6 week periods.
So that would be 24 of September 2030, almost exactly 6 years from now. A good close to end of year launch window and reasonable tbh.
I better get my diet and exercise on point so i can make it alive to 2030
@@Manuu-P Saaaaame hahaha. can't wait to introduce my toddlers to this game since I'll have one or two in 6 years.
whats reasonable for 2030? xD u think they need 6 years to fill the map with content and creating zones? thats the easiest part of making the game
That whould be a great 40th b day present sep 24 2030 lmaooo
I could justify a cool new computer and actually have time to play so I'm down for 2030.
Maybe they'll build an in-game memorial for some of the old boys that can't hold out 😂
If you are assuming that everything is going as planned and not accounting for the delays, then you forgot about how Steven said he expected everything within the Phase 3 list to be implimented within the first couple months of Phase 3. If you are playing it out to beyond 5 major patches within that, then you are playing it out longer than what has been said to be expected, and thus accounting for delays. Not saying that I think that what Steven said in that livestream is going to happen, and not saying it won't, but if you are making a list based on what has been said to be expected for the release cadence, going beyond 2 major patches for Phase 3 wouldn't be that. As so long as everything is on time, we shouldn't know what is getting released at the 3rd Major Patch of phase 3 and beyond.
Edit: If your curious where Steven says this, if you go to the video "Alpha Two Roadmap Showcase and AMA Livestream - 11AM PT Friday, August 16, 2024" and go to the video chapter "Alpha 2 Phase 3: Features and Content", he says it almost immediately. Specifically, he says something along the lines of Alpha 2 lasting awhile, and the things on the list being within the first few months(if we think of few months as three months, then that is two major patches after the start of Phase 3).
Edit2: Another note, Steven has gone on record for saying Alpha 2 Phase 3 will be expected to last 1 year within a relatively recent reddit post which was addressing that whole Alpha Key contraversy, while in the past and I don't know if this is still a thought for them, but I remember them saying that Beta will start before Alpha 2 servers turn into the PTR. So this all means, that so long as everything is going as planned Alpha 2 will end in May 2026, and that is likely when it will become the PTR.
i like this more than narcs over coped drip feed of areas and content, ( it allows allows me to keep the copium of playing it in this era opposed to 6 years later )
this honestly makes a lot more sense to me then narcs guess since it seems like they already have a lot of the ground work done for the game.
If it actually takes that much longer, there'll likely be another pause in development while they update to UE6 and make graphical/technical improvements to existing systems. A part of me really hopes that as their team continues to grow, and they continue to find reliable studios to outsource grunt work to, the world will come together much more quickly than you predicted here, and we'll see Ashes in our hands by the end of 2027.
I'm surprised AoC hasn't caused a worldwide copium shortage yet.
Back in cryosleep, timer 6 years, cya
Hoping you're off by 2 months and full release is March of 2030. That way my retirement can coincide with the release, lol.
2030? lmao yeah ok baldy, fall 2027 at the latest will be when the game is green. it doesnt take 6 weeks to make a fucking volcano. the artists at intrepid are solid, should only take one of them around a week to do it lol
and most likely all of the stuff on roadmap is prob ready they just gonna test slowly since steven said million times he dont wanna put dated if hes not sure about something.. creating zones filling it with content cant take 5+ years are ppl crazy? xD
if this was any other dev like amazon, Blizzard, Riot fucking Ubisoft i bet it would take 6 + years just look at skull and bones XD
Man you are the only creator I am proud giving my twitch sub to. It’s truly amazing the amount of content you’re creating on a game that “quite literally doesn’t exist “, plus basing it on Steven’s quotes that changes every quarter.
Your passion is incredible and I do understand why you were manager of that bakery.
If AoC will be a scam, fuck that, come to Italy and let’s open a super freakin bakery!
I'm ready for 1.0 in 2045. Screencap my prediction. I just hope the retirement home I'll be checked in will have killer gamer PCs.
its gonna be one of those "workshops" but you build "old style systems"
im so happy for my grandchildrens to enjoy this game
Welcome Create a character... woooohoo... playing , noting bugs...YES ! Finally high enough to pick my secondary class....LOADING... What !?.... Welcome Create a character....Ahhhhh... OK playing noting bugs ...yes finally high enough to pick my second class...LOADING...... NOOOOO..... Welcome create a character......playing , noting bugs...YES ! Finally high enough to pick my secondary class....LOADING
2030?! Godamn I hope you're WAYYYYY Off on that prediction! If this game isn't released before 2028, it will die!!
Theres no way... ive never been a part of an alpha testing so im just throwing this out from a biz/gamer standpoint but, first of all, thats heeeeella loot to keep it going until 2030. Secondly, you mean to tell me, you think we're going to be testing the whoooole game before it releases? Lol whaaaaat, that would be dope but, whats to stop the whole world from buying alpha keys and just playing the entire time? Doesnt that spoil the game?
Spoiled like New World? 😅😂
@@uvveshlurvvesh6515 not sure I understand. Never played NW
I completely agree with you. First off being in alpha/beta for 6 years is absurd and not financially viable. They would be better off downsizing to one continent and releasing 1.0 then doing the second continent and sea content in an expansion. Also we 100% won't be testing the full game
Since biome creation is pretty well scaleable, I am kinda hoping that they could hire a lot more people for content creation and environment design to boost their "biome production". It seems their systems will be fully completed by ~2028 (sticking to your timeline).
100% agree i even say end of 2027 max.. filling contnent and creating zones is way easier than making all the other systems work like server meshing they have a playable game seems like once they achive everything that was on the roadmap thats prob gonna take a year im guessing they have most of stuff on list kinda ready to some lvl.. and 2 years with extra ppl for zones/content u honestly dont see how this can take any longer than 3 years if they dont upgrade to unreal6 ofc
Yea people who have not worked in game dev don't realize how rapidly the content creation ramps up. The idea that it will take a year and half to finish the map is silly, and that nothing else is happening in parellel with gameplay is dumb. Max start of 2028 for launch.
Sadly, they are going to run out of money in 2025 without finishing the game.
I didn't realize how much the game Devs could use your input? You've been following this from the start.
There's no way in hell they can push out a new zone every couple of months.
Man, so much can happen during that time. Tbh I hope they take the time to make it the pinnacle NEXT gen game.
I was there in 2020 for bg3, ill be here on ashes in 2024.
Good video. I like the way you think on this video.
A proper mix theory craft with tongue in cheek.
I think the game will release far earlier then 2030 simply because prep takes a lot longer then anything on large scale projects and as time goes on work on the game will speed up as they will get more organized if all goes well and I imagine that by mid 2028 the game will be out. final big sweeping changes will most likely be made very swiftly and efficiently. Of course my prediction can only hold true if they are all passionate, driven and experienced/talented devs as goes with anything in life. In fact the biggest variable is just how far they have gotten with the raids, dungeons and such as that kind of content will almost certainly take up the most time.
2030? dude the world will be destroyed by then in 2029
Chyna will attempt Invasion of Taiwan in 2027 so we're fucked earlier :)
2029? I give it 2 years for the end times... Wanna bet?
If the game is coming out in 2030 it better be way different than what it is right now. The competition will be crazy by then. If not, dead on arrival.
Competition?XD There is no competition man lol
@@Toxickys A lot of games are probably in development as we speak. They are just not as loud as Intrepid Studio is. If this game releases in 2030, and it's close to the state that it is currently in, it will die.
The logic is sound. Hopefully though with the increase to the size of their teams it speeds it up. I would like to think that full launch would be around 2026 / 27. that way a solid 1.5 to 2ish years of alpha testing.
As long as I can be balls deep in that A2 till launch I'm happy
My 2 cent bet: A2 will last 1-1.5 years and we get into beta 1, the first phase of polishing, it will be a few months, maybe 3-6. Then beta 2 after 6-12 months break and will last 6 months and will showcase the polished state of the game. And after 6 more months release. which means: Beta 1 ~September 2026. Beta 2 in ~July/~September 2027. Release May 2028. Oh god.... 4 more years?
$100 for 5 years of subscription doesn't sound all that bad.
I'm guessing that they are going to grow the team even more to make it go even faster, so I'm hopping for an early 2029 release.
This assumes that the 6 week major update cycle will be the sole development type going forward. I dont think its gonna be this way further into alpha 3. I think 6 weeks is not their development time per major patch. This time frame is adjusted for a more focused testing environment in early alpha period. 2026 is a good candidate for full release.
yup that was my guess too and that like without any major delays of unforcen things
If you’re even remotely accurate. And it actually is a very logical prediction, it pains me to actually think we will have to wait another 5 or 6 years. At least they’ll be a lot of games to fill in between. Including the recent release of EverQuest 2 Origins, Throne and Liberty are a few to mention.
Ima say 3rd quarter 2027 release, optimistic guess.
I will be curious to see how things change during alpha. Obviously they have all these grand plans for what they want to do, but what will they develop on, drill down on, abandon, etc once they see how players interact with different game mechanics. That's ultimately going to be the ultimate determinant for the success of this game: can they listen to and apply feedback when necessary, or will they move forward, blinders on, with whatever vision they set out on years in the past.
Whatever gives the spread sheet, 50-100% delay is not unreasonable for software
I hope they reset characters rather than wiping them. I don't really want to spend 4 hours in the character creator after each reset but I know I absolutely will if I have to remake characters.
Bro I unironically hope it will take until 2030.
Because this way we can be sure its everything we imagined it to be. I've been waiting since kickstarter and I will wait 6 more years easily.
Dont rush the development.
Nah, full potential AoC would only come in 2040, so you're outta luck.
@@Ranziel1 Gawd damn gotta survive real life until 2040 ig
this is pure comedy.
What happened to the math calculated for 2062, I dont know what to believe anymore!
I do not think that the timeline makes any sense. They have no reason to make us explore the whole available map so early. Making systems and level designs are different tasks, with different people working on it. Releasing all the features, then slowly releasing more maps over 2-3 years without new features? That sounds absurd from a development perspective. It might take 6 years for the game to release, why not (I'd probably bank more on 3-4 years), but your timeline just doesn't make sense to me.
So all of us that were saying 2030 are reasonably close? 🤣
If this game spends 15 years in development it'll never release. I can't get behind a 2030 release date lol.
I don't think every biome will be in A2 nor should it be. I think that the only biomes we get to test in A2 are the ones they already listed. The rest will be available all at once in beta
hmm i think it has to come out of alpha sometime in 2027 at the latest if it is to have a big enough impact to be sustainable
Game will launch before 2030 with a minimal viable product and expansions will add additional features and areas later, they simply can not afford the 20-30 million dollars a year it will cost to run the test servers, Star Citizen for instance burns 10's of millions per year on servers as is shown in their yearly financials which is why they are forced to monetize their game so heavily or it simply would never be made.
So the AOC devs have only 2 other ways out other than a partial launch and they are find a publisher like Amazon who has the servers and money to back the game or find more private investors willing to gamble on this game because there is simply no way they can keep this game going in development to 2030 without monetization of some form.
Brother, I have no idea what kind of copium you've been feed by the Scam Citizen devs but it does NOT cost 20-30 million dollars a year to run a test server. 💀
@@LastCrystal I don't know, it might not be that far off, it's not only the server costs, it's the employee salaries, the buildings, the electricity bills, etc etc, even for a smaller studio it can get quite high quite fast. I do not know the specifics of SC, because I don't really follow it, but I saw actual official documents from the company making crowfall (one of the shareholders shared it). They had over $1M expenses over 3 months for
are you crazy? amazon? you want another unfinished buggy lagging game?
Honestly if it's not out by Q4 2027 I just don't think it'll survive. It can't keep running and developing with no constant revenue. Steven is rich but he can't pour 200 million into he game he'd lose everything. He's even said he didn't think it'd take this long and he can't fund it indefinetly. I'd imagine a 2027 release is as far out as he can handle. Good bad or otherwise is think it has to come out that year.
I'm not even hyped for it anymore, I'm convinced they're just going to run out of money after additional development delays later on down the line and will release it in a half baked state.
My expectations for this game have dropped drastically after Steven lied about A2 being persistent.
he never lied, Steven said the Alpha gets turned into the Public Test Realm as soon as beta is launched
Another bait comment
6 weeks to build a volcano?? On a team with 200+ developers and growing? You may find it hard to believe but a lot of these systems are being built simultaneously, with devs working on different things at the same time. Way too narrow minded, my prediction end of 2027 beta release. 3 years from now ish.
I highly doubt AoC has plans to launch with ALL landmasses in-game. They'll launch before then, using landmass additions as expansions in future updates to the game.
all landmasses will be in the game on launch since we arent all starting on the same land mass
your hinges are on orbit at this point narc lol
i dont think so alpha will be longer than 1-1,5 year!my prediction release late 2026 or early 2027!
Random idea but at 5:29 I see they are adding a "stealth system" and i just have to say if we can crouch and sneak around for Crits/Stealth ATT buffs like some ESO or Skyrim gameplay that would be 11/10 sick af to finally have another MMO with some form of "crouch to sneak" gameplay mechanic dude, which tbh i have a strong feeling its something to just do with Stealth classes like a druid or rogue and maybe consumables/items/gear...
but it would be cool to be able to crouch at anytime and go sneaky mode lmao (the ability to crouch in general should be in the game tho, for immersion and cool guy RP reasons of course)
dawg this game highkey looks and sounds PACKED with content for a brand new MMO, this shit could launch a few months after Alpha 2 Phase 3 and id call it better then a fair few MMOs weve been stuck with for the last few years...fingers crossed for a 2026 or somehow randomly 2025 release (X for Hard Doubt)
Ashes was based on a pathfinder (d&d 3.5e spin off) campaign, so yeah, prolly the rogue subclasses will have crouch stealth / sneak attacks ( which eork as backstabs whrn flanking).
fairly sure the Rogue and rogue as a sub class gets the stealth but its not true stealth like WOW everyone has it but i believe rogues have it better like DnD, also rogues will get that added bonus of trap/ hidden door/ lock picking bonus so still heaps of reasons to have one
@@cyberaesir661 afaik rogues get the invisibility treatment while regular stealth is mesnt to work like elder scrolls /wow, proximity based. At least, classic wow.
Assuming linear rate of production for the worlds biome from patch 17 to 31 is very flawed, this kind of content creation ramps up much much faster, and your schedual has literally nothing in gameplay being touched for a year and a half of just pure map making. That should take under a year and likely have Tier 6 nodes and grandmaster artisan skills completed in parelell. Beta then lasts 6 months. And release at the begining of 2028.
I always thought his name was SonichuXplosions 🤔
lol mid to late 2027, most of ur patches where a joke. 1 land mass per quarter for 2 years? ya right
They will bleed so much money if it really took them until 2030
I've been loosely following this since 2016 kickstarter, thankfully Star Citizen gave me enough experience to not back this project, so glad I didn't. 2030 is absolutely ridiculous for a release. If 2030 is the actual release date this game will be dead upon arrival. And to think when I saw their Alpha wave whatever I thought this would be close to beta and release within 2 years... Totally gonna pass on this one unless something really unexpected happens and they can get their shit together.
Games are worth nothing until they're done
I see they are taking the star citizen approach ..... well knowing the game will take years before release i think i will stop being excited for it since i will honestly forget about it in that time.
I don't see it going that far in years, i think your forgetting how fast development goes once they have constant input from players (A2 players) i say 2026 at most, there is no bloody way this game and it progress speed (yes it seems slow but it's an MMO of massive scale) will take as long as you say, the game would be dead, and three is no comparison to SC as that has a shit load of scam to it with its multi thousand dollar ships and bs like that, AoC doesn't have that, in any sense of the matter, this game just feels slow due to its size, the fact that they are being careful and listening to the community.... and, we are seeing way more due to open development, than any other MMO.
And no, it's not COPE, its just facts and what happens if you pay attention.
i dont think it will be that long cause if it was planned to be 4 years+ then they would have charged more for the alpha keys but the way they priced them was for like 2-3years since the servers will cost quite abit and they will want to profit from those sales and not have players playing this game for 4 years+ with no sub fees.
2030 is crazy
Honestly if this doesn't release in late 2026 or 1st quarter 2027 I feel this is probably going to just fall off. If there's a 2030 launch then UE6 will probably be out already.
nah, like i get it, but what makes you think Ashes will drip feed all the content? i think the main reason why they havent left the river lands and shown other parts is for surprises sake, 2030 is such a stretch and personally a lot of the copium followers would even leave including you, i doubt you would stick around till 2030, a more realistic approach would be to see what considers as a "major" add and see what are the " lesser" are and mush them together in mega streams of 2-3 hours, i think max 2027-2028 would be a more realistic thought
2030 it can release with star citizen lmao
So 14 years development? If I'm correct Duke Nukem holds the record for a 14 year game development. So AOC is trying to break that record?
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You forgot to mention the additional rounds of selling alpha keys and diamond keys to get into 'exclusive' 2030 testing phases
Here is my prediction... Let's start with, that I am a huge fan of AoC and can't wait to play A2 in 45 days!
My thoughts are that Intrepid will run out of cash if this goes until 2030 without GA unless... They keep the A2 P3 key ($100) available indefinitely. Then they can hype the game up and get new players buying A2 keys. Just think about the number of developers, testers, etc. that Intrepid would have to continue to fund for the next 6 years with no additional streams of revenue unless they keep the A2 P3 key sales going (or open/close them as needed). Just my two cents..
people seem to think these guys are bleeding money and don't have the funds to last until 2030. i think they're likely spending upwards of 5-10m a year for staffing, server costs, etc assuming they're running a lean operation. it looks like they're lean to some degree given their less than stellar salaries and focus on cost-saving server tech. in the worse case, they need another $60m to launch the game. they might have enough already to do that, but i wouldn't be surprised if they sell intrepid tech licenses well before the game launches and use those funds to continue developing the game up until at least 2030.
I still think this game will never be released and they are just milking keys for the losses they made on making the game.
their tactic is similar to Sony with their Concord failure. Sony had to sell a console for 900 pounds with no disc drive. to make up for the losses on Concord.
Simple answer, it will at least last until beta ;)
2030. 6 years from now. Dang. I hope they update the graphics between now and then, it's going to look very dated if they don't, what with how much GPUs will evolve.
*They're not gonna give us the entire game to test.*
Alpha2 until 2077
i'll most likely be dead
By 2030 there will be another type of technology, new VR creations and immersion in video games. If that's the scenario. AoC is more than dead... 6 years until the game officially comes out? nah, for that year there will be another delay because they will surely use unreal 7... and guess what!!! another 6 years stealing money from the people who pay for the alpha...
2030??? That's crazy
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Thos ho have thet bundle for 300 dollars are they are in alpha ore they still need to buy separate thos keys? Just confused.
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🤣🤣🤣2030? aint no way.. u said they gonna need like 5 years for west island and then expect do to other one in 1 year? xD lateest this game will come is 2027 anything beyond that is dumb and crazy with server meshing working which was prob hardest do to they can speedrun the rest of the game they have a playable game that hopefully runs well they can easy fill the map in 3 years only potential delay is UE6
i dont see U6 being swapped in untill we are already deep into the game if at all
@@cyberaesir661 yeah if anything the will swap at the end or near the end of alpha if its gonna be beneficial
Citizen of creation
and that is without delays lol
if alpha 2 really does end up being 4+ years long, there is ZERO chance the game wont be dead before beta
These guys are dreamers if they think this game is going to be a success at this rate.
a 2030 release would kill this project without question.
DD player on the move
Lmao come on Narc, this is ridiculous even for you haha. Alpha 2 phase 3 will likely last about a year then beta for a few months, then release. Makes more sense to be release end of 2027
If this game doesnt release in atleast 2026, im going give up on playing it before Im Unc status.
Once I heard you mention "2028" I wanted to walk outside and get some fresh air lmao, dude I would argue they could release a few month maybe a year n some change max after Phase 3 and easily be in the top 5 maybe even 3 MMOs if they were to knock off FF14 (OSRS and WoW and undefeated champs, only thing to kill WoW is Blizzard)
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3 year alpha? Damn I gotta forget about this project and just visit back later… I just can’t pull my eyes away!
Bro your already taking the maximum dose of copium. I don't think you can handle 6 more years of it. For real it better release sooner than that.
2030 lol. I will forget ashes of creation before that date.
And the game wont miss you