As an INFP the reason I love INTJ's is because we are weirdly similar - even if we are quite different. We have similar values, outlooks and appreciate talking about ideas and abstract concepts - yet we have completely different ways of arriving to the same conclusions. And then there are the differences: the INTJ admires the INFP's virulent self expression and how in tune we are with our emotions, and we admire the INTJ's brilliant strategy and how intentional and methodical they are. Both types are die hard ambassadors of integrity and being unapologetically real. I have found that I have the most fun, interesting conversations with INTJ's - definitely a match made in heaven.
I’m married to an INTJ and I agree it’s the Ni that fascinates me. By “fascinates” I mean “creeps me out at first by the outlandish level of scheming and planning, then am forced to admit that the plan almost always works” It feels creepy to my sentimental Si, but being unattached to past memories seems to be a large part of why Ni plans are so elegant and effective.
Infp’s have this amazing ability to help me open up my Fi , with ZERO judgment . Actually the crazier the better . They love the darkness 😂and I have an unlimited dark trench of Fi I don’t even know what’s in there.
Matt's explanation of MBTI was already cool, but now I understand why he came up with it. Also the cat tree behind Jon lol. You realize I need to see cats now.
Cool interview! I'm tempted to try out the parts work. Words of advice about not offending INFPs: Lead with good intention and encourage communication and consent. I get the feeling that a big reason INFPs get "offended" is because they are feeling bulldozed by reasoning that does not match their internal model/values (ie. Te doms trying to help by imposing their system of doing things). We HATE being influenced without consenting to it, so when we're making a decision, we need everyone to shush so that we can consult with those inner parts. So if you want to help just check in if they're cool with what you're suggesting. If you give your opinion, ask if they want it first or make sure that what they're telling you is up for debate. Give invitations for them to assert their boundaries before and after offending them and respect their limits.
Thanks for the recommendation! I definitely notice when an INFPs is having an internal discussion and I've said this before in my previous video but it scares me when it happens 🙃
On the topic of the weird Fi - Fe overlap, my INFP gf mentions often that she does all the things as a form of not wanting to be useless to her close environment. She then takes up too much burden on her shoulders on behalf of others as a result, just because it's her personal value. Because other people are involved, it may look like Fe, I think. Also, Fi is linked with Te as opposite, so her doing all the Te things to satisfy her Fi drives her, as well as breaks her. As such, I think she isn't using Te to objectively look at what needs to be done and prioritising it logically, she just picks up everything at the same time and gets confused/mixes up what she needed to do first. Luckily she is aware of it, and usually comes to me (INTJ) for advise on the matter. In turn, she helps me get out of analysis paralysis.
How you describe your lovergirl is exactly the same situation I find myself in with my sister. I appreciate her for caring so much but there are a lot of times where she takes on too much and I just kindly Te and take over but it's usually welcomed 😂
" I needed to go somewhere. Happen to be Japan." Lmfao. 😂😂 When I need to "go somewhere" I go to the park with my coloring book. Lol. I did live in Ecuador and Mexico, but I enjoyed the way you said that.
@@justcallmejon22 I loved it!!!! the confusion on your face is so familiar too 😂😂😂 That WWJD reference for understanding people was on point!!! I was devastated to find out I was an INFP a little over a year ago, but growing and being more self aware and learning how to effectively use my cognitive functions (thanks to creators like both of you), now I LOVE being an INFP ❤️ I can also see why the Suaslide rate is so high for INFP, feeling what others feel get heavy 🪨 you gotta recharge. Also I too have a REALLY high threshold for suffering 😂🤷♀️
Thank for sharing the INFP wisdom ! It's not easy for the type who have low T or N in their stack to understand cognitive functions. I totally understand that another system more simple correspond better to them. I am a paladin : a sword, a shield & an armor, with healing abilities : I may take the damages at the place of others (sacrifice myself), and heal myself & others. Know when to attack, when to defend, wait the right time. I agree with all of these : _the demonic projection Fi or the Ti dom - alignement with ourselves - self discovery (it remind me my own videos) _Fi confuse with Ni : I learned recently Ni may have acces to all parts of the brain. Probably Ni use/involve all the others functions, and can be confuse with all of them. _different parts/aspects, different personas. We all do that, adapting to situations/people ^^. Great INTV show 😆
I relate to being a Paladin! I don't think that it's necessarily difficult to understand cognitive functions due to the placement of T or N, I think it matters more about a person's motivation to learn the topic. I also don't think creating your own system makes it simpler as opposed to it making more sense. I see so many INTJ youtubers creating their own systems that complicate MBTI way more than making it simpler, but it makes more sense to them 😅
Another really cool collab! I really enjoyed how Matt equated the cognitive functions to a questing party, similar to the same vein in your depiction of them as a family. One because it was in line with what has so far been my easy tell for when I'm engaging with an INFP (personification of just about everything), and two because it was such an easy connection that I was just able to roll with it and settle in for the ride. 😆 It was also cool to see him describe how he uses FiNe in a sort of tangential way that we INTJs use NiTe.
The ticking time bomb analogy reminded me of the rawness and power of The Inferior function, and it made me think of something Marie-Louise von Franz wrote in “Lectures on Jung’s Typology” (though my Si remembered the excerpt as talking about the Inferior in general, not Feeling Inferior): “The inferior feeling of this type is about as if a lioness would like to play with a baby. It has no other intention than to play, but it rubs itself, purring, against his leg, or eats him up, or gives him a great blow so that he falls over, and then it licks his face. But there is no calculation in it; it is just an expression of feeling, just as a dog wags his tail!” Inferior-Te can be super heavy-handed and unwieldy…. As if the INFP had Thor’s Hammer which it could suddenly pick up on occasion when suddenly possessed by the Inferior… and either go Crusader mode, or Accidentally destroy-everything-in-wake, Tidal Wave Mode. “Oops, there goes that relationship!”
You guys talked about ticking timebombs and triggers, and you were asking about navigation tips (not exactly in those words): As an INFP, I like to think about it as an ocean mine field. For self-preservation, I think an INFP has to learn how to create some distance from feedback being received, in the form of tapping into the Inquiring Mind, considering multiple interpretations for what was said, after the INFP’s initial knee-jerk reaction. The INFP has to figure out the relational needs of the situation, especially of the other individual, developing Ne in the area of guessing at the possible needs involved. Ultimately an INFP has to go on a lifelong quest of examining their ocean minefield, and figuring out their own needs, developing a storehouse that may be used for future navigation for both themselves and others.. So strangely enough, by being Triggered multiple times, an INFP can gain more clarity and insight regarding their deeply held values and needs (which ultimately become part of their Identity) that they normally can’t see without outside interaction or people on boats passing by. An INFP has to keep asking “Why did this happen? What did I want or hope for in this situation?”, when it comes to examining triggers. Possible tips for others interacting with an INFP: Jon, you do a very good job of this, showing genuine appreciation, especially how you mention how they have helped you in some way. When appreciation feels genuine, an INFP is more likely to work through feelings of discomfort or triggers, not shutting down right away, not completely running away from the situation. (I think INFPs have trouble evaluating and understanding their contributions in relationship to others, so when people offer clear feedback regarding how an INFP helped in a deep meaningful way, then it will alleviate some of the pressure built up in the Ticking Timebomb mentioned. I think it also helps build trust, connection, and more openness with an INFP.) Another possible tip is to soften language by removing “you” when making statements, and use “I” when discussing the needs, wants, and desires of the situation. Once an INFP is in fight, flight, or freeze, it becomes very difficult for the INFP to listen, shutting out any kind of feedback given. I can’t think of anything else, but yeah, reassuring an INFP that you are on their side, goes a long way. Getting an INFP to question, and think on their own helps too… giving them time and space to write things down to clarify their thoughts, so that they aren’t always put on the spot in-the-moment…
Thank you for the feedback! I noticed that INFPs are easier to be around after they feel more comfortable with you but my statement still stands, I'm still terrified when ya'll go into that zoned out look 😂
@@justcallmejon22 lol. Yeah Be Afraid! Be very afraid! It’s said that the Inferior is the doorway to the unconscious part of the psyche. So maybe the monsters are crawling out. 😂
When an infp gets hurt/offended... it isnt from my stand point, because what was said could be true. It is the opposite, of finally thinking someone understands me and I have opened myself up to them and trusted them and then they...THINK WHAT? Like, im incredibly hurt because it is so off base, NOT even close to true. Then, atleast with me, Im hurt but very calm and try to address it and get clarity from the other person. By my reaction, most would never know Im even hurt. I dont show feelings outloud. Introverted feeling is just that..introverted. The only way Id blow up is if someone I care about their opinion, and they r intentionally pushing my buttons over n over n over and have a track record built up to this point of being outright mean or disrespectful. But, even then, Id probably just walk away as I hate conflict and just put up a wall I might have had down for them, so as to protect myself as I do not see them as a safe place anymore. .........Now as infp Im fighting not deleting this comment, feeling shy about extroverting these thoughts. UGHHH the struggle is real! 🤭 😊 OOOOOOK, Im gonna be brave and hit comment! 🤗😎
Don't delete the comment because I'm sure someone will find it valuable. I do agree that it hurts when someone says something that I didn't expect from them that goes against my own values. I usually just walk away and try to focus on other qualities of why we're friends to maintain my sanity 🙃
The word is judgement. I don’t really appreciate the guesswork label but I’ll let it slide since you don’t understand. 😊 We make a lot of judgement calls. It’s usually accurate or true but we could still be wrong if we’re missing some small piece of knowledge or tiny detail because someone like an intj is “book smart”.
INTP here and I feel like I wasted my entire 20s just playing computer games too. I could have developed some skills or progress in my intellectual pursuits more in that 10 years. I wonder if this is a common trait of INxPs and I wonder what's causing it.
As an INTJ who has Te in my second function, I can say that this statement is a misuse/misunderstanding of the Te cognitive function. If it were true, that means that high Te users are the only types that can deliver on a timeline and that's absolutely not true 😁
As an INFP the reason I love INTJ's is because we are weirdly similar - even if we are quite different. We have similar values, outlooks and appreciate talking about ideas and abstract concepts - yet we have completely different ways of arriving to the same conclusions. And then there are the differences: the INTJ admires the INFP's virulent self expression and how in tune we are with our emotions, and we admire the INTJ's brilliant strategy and how intentional and methodical they are. Both types are die hard ambassadors of integrity and being unapologetically real. I have found that I have the most fun, interesting conversations with INTJ's - definitely a match made in heaven.
Leave it to an INFP to explain the pairing so poetically 🙂
Thanks for inviting me for the interview 😊 it was fun and nice getting to know you.
Likewise! Next time, we're doing a collab at GoldShire 😉
I’m married to an INTJ and I agree it’s the Ni that fascinates me. By “fascinates” I mean “creeps me out at first by the outlandish level of scheming and planning, then am forced to admit that the plan almost always works”
It feels creepy to my sentimental Si, but being unattached to past memories seems to be a large part of why Ni plans are so elegant and effective.
It's so funny and interesting to hear someone call Ni 'creepy' LOL 😂
@@justcallmejon22 That's why high Ni users are such stereotypical villains in movies :D
Infp’s have this amazing ability to help me open up my Fi , with ZERO judgment . Actually the crazier the better . They love the darkness 😂and I have an unlimited dark trench of Fi I don’t even know what’s in there.
I've personally witness how mutually beneficial the relationship is between an INFP & ENTJ. I will always support that pairing ✊
Matt's explanation of MBTI was already cool, but now I understand why he came up with it.
Also the cat tree behind Jon lol. You realize I need to see cats now.
I'll ask Ms. MeowMeow if she wants to be on camera but she comes and goes as she pleases 🙃
This is soooooo accurate for INFPs, especially the multiple personalities arguing in one's head lol
INFPs are the epitome of the Pixar movie "Inside Out" 😂
"When do INFP gets their shit together?"
Ha! I already did, take that!
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when we believe we matter, and we know people out there need us :)I will never be an estj but I can be the healthiest infp I can be
Cool interview! I'm tempted to try out the parts work.
Words of advice about not offending INFPs:
Lead with good intention and encourage communication and consent. I get the feeling that a big reason INFPs get "offended" is because they are feeling bulldozed by reasoning that does not match their internal model/values (ie. Te doms trying to help by imposing their system of doing things). We HATE being influenced without consenting to it, so when we're making a decision, we need everyone to shush so that we can consult with those inner parts. So if you want to help just check in if they're cool with what you're suggesting. If you give your opinion, ask if they want it first or make sure that what they're telling you is up for debate. Give invitations for them to assert their boundaries before and after offending them and respect their limits.
Thanks for the recommendation! I definitely notice when an INFPs is having an internal discussion and I've said this before in my previous video but it scares me when it happens 🙃
On the topic of the weird Fi - Fe overlap, my INFP gf mentions often that she does all the things as a form of not wanting to be useless to her close environment. She then takes up too much burden on her shoulders on behalf of others as a result, just because it's her personal value. Because other people are involved, it may look like Fe, I think. Also, Fi is linked with Te as opposite, so her doing all the Te things to satisfy her Fi drives her, as well as breaks her. As such, I think she isn't using Te to objectively look at what needs to be done and prioritising it logically, she just picks up everything at the same time and gets confused/mixes up what she needed to do first. Luckily she is aware of it, and usually comes to me (INTJ) for advise on the matter. In turn, she helps me get out of analysis paralysis.
How you describe your lovergirl is exactly the same situation I find myself in with my sister. I appreciate her for caring so much but there are a lot of times where she takes on too much and I just kindly Te and take over but it's usually welcomed 😂
Dude you are making damn cool collaborations, wooo ! 🎉🎉🎉 And the editing is also cool and the setup of both of you is so good looking 🎉🎉🎉
It's fun to make! Just glad that you guys are enjoying it 🙏
" I needed to go somewhere. Happen to be Japan." Lmfao. 😂😂
When I need to "go somewhere" I go to the park with my coloring book. Lol.
I did live in Ecuador and Mexico, but I enjoyed the way you said that.
Good to notice how 'Fi' defines things with words based on how the word feels as opposed to how analytically correct the definition is (Ti).
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I'm so excited for this!!!!! I subscribe to you both!!! His videos are so helpful for me (an INFP) 🎉
Hope you enjoy the video 😀
@@justcallmejon22 I loved it!!!! the confusion on your face is so familiar too 😂😂😂 That WWJD reference for understanding people was on point!!! I was devastated to find out I was an INFP a little over a year ago, but growing and being more self aware and learning how to effectively use my cognitive functions (thanks to creators like both of you), now I LOVE being an INFP ❤️ I can also see why the Suaslide rate is so high for INFP, feeling what others feel get heavy 🪨 you gotta recharge. Also I too have a REALLY high threshold for suffering 😂🤷♀️
From the first few seconds i can tell u were really enjoying the whole podcast 😂 regards from fellow INTJ ,, currently trying dating an INFP girl 😅
INFPs are so fun to mess around with, their Fi/Ne combo makes the conversation so unpredictable where I learn so much from it 😅
This was hilarious and interesting, thank you!!
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Thank for sharing the INFP wisdom !
It's not easy for the type who have low T or N in their stack to understand cognitive functions.
I totally understand that another system more simple correspond better to them.
I am a paladin : a sword, a shield & an armor, with healing abilities : I may take the damages at the place of others (sacrifice myself), and heal myself & others. Know when to attack, when to defend, wait the right time.
I agree with all of these :
_the demonic projection Fi or the Ti dom - alignement with ourselves - self discovery (it remind me my own videos)
_Fi confuse with Ni : I learned recently Ni may have acces to all parts of the brain. Probably Ni use/involve all the others functions, and can be confuse with all of them.
_different parts/aspects, different personas. We all do that, adapting to situations/people ^^.
Great INTV show 😆
I relate to being a Paladin! I don't think that it's necessarily difficult to understand cognitive functions due to the placement of T or N, I think it matters more about a person's motivation to learn the topic. I also don't think creating your own system makes it simpler as opposed to it making more sense. I see so many INTJ youtubers creating their own systems that complicate MBTI way more than making it simpler, but it makes more sense to them 😅
@@justcallmejon22 You are right about all of that. I am curious to see these INTJ youtubeurs and their own systems.
Another really cool collab! I really enjoyed how Matt equated the cognitive functions to a questing party, similar to the same vein in your depiction of them as a family. One because it was in line with what has so far been my easy tell for when I'm engaging with an INFP (personification of just about everything), and two because it was such an easy connection that I was just able to roll with it and settle in for the ride. 😆
It was also cool to see him describe how he uses FiNe in a sort of tangential way that we INTJs use NiTe.
It's cool for people like us because we're MMO nerds! I spent so many hours of my life in Azeroth so I appreciate his system 😅
Matt is always so relatable as an INFP!
& Yes, as an INFP, I’m always stuck between Ne or Si 😩😩😩😩
Really enjoyed this video!
I agree, he reminds me of a lot of my close INFPs and I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😁
The ticking time bomb analogy reminded me of the rawness and power of The Inferior function, and it made me think of something Marie-Louise von Franz wrote in “Lectures on Jung’s Typology” (though my Si remembered the excerpt as talking about the Inferior in general, not Feeling Inferior):
“The inferior feeling of this type is about as if a lioness would like to play with a baby. It has no other intention than to play, but it rubs itself, purring, against his leg, or eats him up, or gives him a great blow so that he falls over, and then it licks his face. But there is no calculation in it; it is just an expression of feeling, just as a dog wags his tail!”
Inferior-Te can be super heavy-handed and unwieldy…. As if the INFP had Thor’s Hammer which it could suddenly pick up on occasion when suddenly possessed by the Inferior… and either go Crusader mode, or Accidentally destroy-everything-in-wake, Tidal Wave Mode. “Oops, there goes that relationship!”
Great video
Thanks Pete! ✊
This is extremely helpful, thank you 😊
Happy to hear that ❤
Appreciate the Translation of some Geek Gamer things, even if I think I still don't understand them.
You guys talked about ticking timebombs and triggers, and you were asking about navigation tips (not exactly in those words): As an INFP, I like to think about it as an ocean mine field. For self-preservation, I think an INFP has to learn how to create some distance from feedback being received, in the form of tapping into the Inquiring Mind, considering multiple interpretations for what was said, after the INFP’s initial knee-jerk reaction. The INFP has to figure out the relational needs of the situation, especially of the other individual, developing Ne in the area of guessing at the possible needs involved. Ultimately an INFP has to go on a lifelong quest of examining their ocean minefield, and figuring out their own needs, developing a storehouse that may be used for future navigation for both themselves and others.. So strangely enough, by being Triggered multiple times, an INFP can gain more clarity and insight regarding their deeply held values and needs (which ultimately become part of their Identity) that they normally can’t see without outside interaction or people on boats passing by. An INFP has to keep asking “Why did this happen? What did I want or hope for in this situation?”, when it comes to examining triggers.
Possible tips for others interacting with an INFP: Jon, you do a very good job of this, showing genuine appreciation, especially how you mention how they have helped you in some way. When appreciation feels genuine, an INFP is more likely to work through feelings of discomfort or triggers, not shutting down right away, not completely running away from the situation. (I think INFPs have trouble evaluating and understanding their contributions in relationship to others, so when people offer clear feedback regarding how an INFP helped in a deep meaningful way, then it will alleviate some of the pressure built up in the Ticking Timebomb mentioned. I think it also helps build trust, connection, and more openness with an INFP.)
Another possible tip is to soften language by removing “you” when making statements, and use “I” when discussing the needs, wants, and desires of the situation. Once an INFP is in fight, flight, or freeze, it becomes very difficult for the INFP to listen, shutting out any kind of feedback given.
I can’t think of anything else, but yeah, reassuring an INFP that you are on their side, goes a long way. Getting an INFP to question, and think on their own helps too… giving them time and space to write things down to clarify their thoughts, so that they aren’t always put on the spot in-the-moment…
Thank you for the feedback! I noticed that INFPs are easier to be around after they feel more comfortable with you but my statement still stands, I'm still terrified when ya'll go into that zoned out look 😂
@@justcallmejon22 lol. Yeah Be Afraid! Be very afraid! It’s said that the Inferior is the doorway to the unconscious part of the psyche. So maybe the monsters are crawling out. 😂
When an infp gets hurt/offended... it isnt from my stand point, because what was said could be true. It is the opposite, of finally thinking someone understands me and I have opened myself up to them and trusted them and then they...THINK WHAT? Like, im incredibly hurt because it is so off base, NOT even close to true. Then, atleast with me, Im hurt but very calm and try to address it and get clarity from the other person. By my reaction, most would never know Im even hurt. I dont show feelings outloud. Introverted feeling is just that..introverted. The only way Id blow up is if someone I care about their opinion, and they r intentionally pushing my buttons over n over n over and have a track record built up to this point of being outright mean or disrespectful. But, even then, Id probably just walk away as I hate conflict and just put up a wall I might have had down for them, so as to protect myself as I do not see them as a safe place anymore. .........Now as infp Im fighting not deleting this comment, feeling shy about extroverting these thoughts. UGHHH the struggle is real! 🤭 😊 OOOOOOK, Im gonna be brave and hit comment! 🤗😎
Don't delete the comment because I'm sure someone will find it valuable. I do agree that it hurts when someone says something that I didn't expect from them that goes against my own values. I usually just walk away and try to focus on other qualities of why we're friends to maintain my sanity 🙃
The word is judgement. I don’t really appreciate the guesswork label but I’ll let it slide since you don’t understand.
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We make a lot of judgement calls. It’s usually accurate or true but we could still be wrong if we’re missing some small piece of knowledge or tiny detail because someone like an intj is “book smart”.
This interview was all fun and games so don't take it serious 😉
I'm an INFJ and Archer has been my main WoW character for years hah
INTP here and I feel like I wasted my entire 20s just playing computer games too. I could have developed some skills or progress in my intellectual pursuits more in that 10 years. I wonder if this is a common trait of INxPs and I wonder what's causing it.
It's never too late to make process on a goal, my INTP friend ✊
Not cool as in sunglasses 😎 😂
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800 videos = high Te, not Fi dom. Matt could be NeTeFiSi.
As an INTJ who has Te in my second function, I can say that this statement is a misuse/misunderstanding of the Te cognitive function. If it were true, that means that high Te users are the only types that can deliver on a timeline and that's absolutely not true 😁
what's the interviewers mbti? I find him quite annoying and I don't think he understands infps at all 🙏
You're on my channel and most of my videos are on INTJs! It's okay that you find me annoying, thanks for stopping by 🙂
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