"Why would any actors work for you" is good. If no actors want to work for Disney Star Wars, there won't be any Disney Star Wars. Keep the pressure up, boys. We're gonna win this.
The show didn't get viewers. The merchandise isn't selling. Disney removed the merchandise from their store, leading me to believe their future projections show it will not make up the cost, if not damage the franchise. Disney+ looking to also have ad-tiers, leading me to believe internally they know ads will not support this show This was *the* mainstream showing of "The High Republic" which was their first original content in the SW universe. The books didn't sell. The merchandise didn't sell. The most mainstream form (Acolyte) was a massive failure. The only positive thing about the initiative was that it was a New York Times best seller. However, if you actually look into it, that is a meaningless metric.
The primary audience for The Acolyte was side shaved, blue haired 18-35 y/o's. The primary audience for The Clone Wars was 8-18 y/o's. And I say this as someone who watched the Clone Wars as an adult in his 30's... you can get away with poorer writing if your primary audience isn't old enough to drive watching the show on cable with ads.
I think the point is that you are not comparing apples with apples. For started the original anime style Clone Wars was created for children and young adults in mind and the critics were the ones that hated it.
I question the level of empathy in individuals who believe they can only identify with a property if it is represented by someone of their own race or orientation.
Go figure that once economic conditions make it harder to have venture capital subsidize propaganda, and needs to appeal to the genuine fans that stuff like acolyte and willow is purged. At least Daisy Riddley didn't drop a dis track on the fans after episode 8 😂.
@@SamtheBravesFan Agreed on the Daisy Riddley front, but I thought it was one of the actresses in the Acolyte that just went out and threw shade at the people who didn't like the show, and was simply pointing out that for as bad as TLJ and RoS were received, that at least Daisy, Oscar, Adam, Jon, Kelly or Gwendolyn going out and throwing shade towards fans.
For everyone who is screaming online about the loss of the Acolyte, why, why, why didn’t you and more friends watch the darn thing while it aired? The number of viewed minutes clearly demonstrate that you and your gal pals didn’t take the time to watch the darn thing in the first place.
I’m guessing they did but the people really saw which sides the majority. Although, they aren’t wrong that more people will watch it in the future, but where they are wrong is that it depends on successful entertainment. I haven’t watched it yet but judging by people’s reactions it’s as popular as all stars to the rescue and that was all about not using a special spice.
This is not anything NEW. The original Battlestar Galactica had a larger fan base back-in-the-day, but it was too expensive to be profitable for NBC. The Acolyte doesn't have anywhere near the fanbase classic BSG did while somehow costing more, even after the inflation adjustment. Even Disney cannot continue to bleed cash like that for so little return.
"Star Wars was only the Skywalker saga" ...Did bro forget about the books? Plenty of others are in there with their stories- (No, Disney's "decanonizing" does not count, Disney's wasn't canon)
He must’ve been a fan of Neil Boortz because he used dog squeeze to describe political nonsense all the time in his talk radio show out of Atlanta. Cow pies is old as dirt, I’ve heard that description for about 50 years now.😉👍
@@jamesruckman4249 It speaks for itself. If you need me to spell it out for you then you’re out of luck because I don’t have the time or patience to teach you reading comprehension that your elementary school teachers failed at teaching you.
Hell, if they made worthy Star Wars content outside of the Skywalker saga then fans will gravitate towards it. We have already seen that to a notable extent with Mando 1&2. I do rather agree with this argument that the Star Wars Universe NEEDS to expand past the Skywalker saga nostalgia bait. We've had ENOUGH of that. However, key point being that the content HAS to be quality content. The New Republic era could well be a MASSIVE missed opportunity. It's already become tarnished by the garbage of The Acolyte.
The acolyte isn’t going to become more beloved. You killed off everyone including the audience. Like the movies had a 100m people worldwide buying tickets. The acolyte got maybe 1-2 m views on its finale There not going to battlefront 3 with osha and Mae There was no book sales of note There just people on Twitter and Twitter isn’t profitable or real life
The reason why these Disney actors are out running their mouths like this is because that is the culture that is present at Disney. This is their _reality_ , they are merely talking as they would normally because this is what they have been conditioned to believe. It's in interviews, it's on X, it's at comic con, and they don't think twice about it because this is normal for them. In their eyee _we_ are the problem, and they're out fighting the good fight and being the heroes and making changes that humanity needs
Someone help me understand why people would ACTIVELY want something that’s OBJECTIVELY bad. I mean, woke stuff aside. This show made no sense, was silly, and worst of all terribly boring. I mean is putting up with all of that worth the few woke points? It makes me wonder if a lot of these woke screamers, don’t even care about, the acolyte, Star Wars, or movies in general. Maybe they never even saw it.
Yeah - and someone explain why these people WANT racism to exist at the ridiculous level they believe it does. Anything to prove they are right and the real victim.
There is no "woke stuff aside." These people were told that this show was for them. That's the only reason why it mattered to them. Were they real Star Wars fans? Absolutely not!! No true Star Wars fan would sign off on this. In fact, no half measured fan who knows just enough lore to understand what's going on would sign off on this. These woke idiots think they're entitled and can take whatever they want because they represent the noble DEI. What they don't understand is that the only DEI they represent is "Didn't Earn It."
Id like to know how disney even survived losing billions of dollars in flops since 2015 ? Normally companies cant afford have loses for 9 years straight.... Sure they did have few successes but there a drop in the ocean to the billions in loses
If the Clone Wars were released today it would still be successful, because it was a decent story people enjoyed. I didn't like it too much but I know plenty of people who did. The Acolyte may have been renewed if the audience was there. The fact that it wasn't proves not enough people watched it to justify the absurd cost to produce it.
"Threw them to the wolves". Yes my gawd , they'll have to get their AGENTS to find THEM another job. In the meantime the money they got PAID will barely tide them over. Won't SOMEONE think of the actors?
Exactly. Disney did what they did knowingly. I would caution any actor not to work for Disney without a good contract that allows them to sue Disney for such things.
did you know you can't even find a pirated copy of Willow? i have no idea how they did it, but the only evidence that Willow was rebooted is all of the articles and videos made about it. not even pirate bay has even a single episode. it's like they used DeleteMe on it or something 🤣👉
But.... but... the ACOLYTE was going to be just like what that hit song from Wyld Stallyns was going to do like unite the world, end world hunger, stop all wars, end hatred from certain parts of the male population, clear up acne, cure all disease and even more like Rufus said????!!!! :P
In All my years of Gaming and Entertainment I never knew I needed a safe space and how in Danger I am from Words I Guess lmaooo. Gen z may be the weakest Generation in History of Mankind
clone wars didn't put woke, dei and the feminist agenda before a well written story, with continuity and actually follow the establish lore and it was just a cartoon meant for kids. where the aaack was like watch a bunch of ADHD squirrels trying to decide on crossing the road while they attacked each other for no reason. it was not made for men, per lh herself. Men are the target audience for Star Wars and men have proven that they loved Star Wars because it was a cash cow. she-wars on the other had specifically per kk said it was for women, the result of that is the global fan base walked away from she-wars so all that's left are the woke shills that haven't been able to fill the void left by the no longer existent Star Wars fan base. it's that simple disney chose the wrong demographics to pander to.
Clones Wars 2003 acted as a promotional tie in for a toy line. It was so successful, the animated series won an emmy. At first, George looked at the Clone Wars as a throwaway event that happenes between episode 2 and 3. But once he saw the successes, he and the animators at Lucasfilm Animated drew up the concept which eneded up being the feature film and the rest is history. Its crazy how George never considered the Clone Wars as a pivotal event and how close we were to not getting it.
No, The Clone Wars feature film was four episodes from season one, edited together. If you watch carefully, you can see the fades where the ad breaks would usually be. Putting it in theatres was an afterthought
Yes, the artist is from the same dude who made Samurai Jack, one of my faves (and because he listens to the fans he made one final season of Samurai Jack to close the ending where Jack finally goes home).
My only comment is that Star Wars was not worth $4B in 2012. Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) was part of that purchase, and while I don't know the breakdown, I would say at least half that buy was for ILM. Still I don't think you'd get $2B for Star Wars today. You might get $500,000,000 if you said you were going to all scrapheap all Star Wars, excluding Rouge One and maybe Andor, from the Disney era.
The only point that i disagree is that star wars is just the Skywalkers. It could ve so much more. But it needs good writing. And because they killed the original trio in a stupid way, many fans won't come back. They shot themselves in the foot right at the beginning.
I can't see Dave Filoni leaving Jon alone to make a good movie. If he can't get his second season you can bet he will ruin intentionally or otherwise the Mandalorian movie to insure he can complete his pet character's story!
We know how bad the viewer ship is, but Disney would also know how many of these viewers were new to D+, as in it probably didn’t drive new subscribers
I’ve been patiently waiting to see live action movies about young Luke Skywalker’s adventures after the original trilogy. Recast Luke, Leia, Han et al please 🙏
The Skywalkers also continued in the EU books, etc. Yes, there were other characters such as Bane and Revan but it served to explain Obi-wan's 1000 generation dialogue from Star Wars, as well as Ki-Adi Mundi's line in TPM
The only death threats I've seen online are from people who are mad it was cancelled. This was an awful show she was bad in it and I'm not a racist for not liking her. She's a spoilt rich girl who has never struggled in her life for anything and her show sucked. End of. Rachael Ziegler is the exact same
Theira a hierarchy to everything in life and Disney forgot this one sumple point.......We(the fans/consumer) are not here for them, they(the product)are here for us......we dont need Disney they need us.......if you give a product most dont want plus you tell the consumer this product isnt for you or most then you have lost aite of the goal.....and in cases like that a hard reminder is necessary
You can explain till your blue in the face, how absolutely garbage tier Acolyte was. Poor writing, poor acting, everything was dreadful, but they'll still scream and yell "ista-phobe".😒
One thing that may come out of the Gina Carano lawsuit, where is the money being spent? Shill payouts have to be in someone's budget. From low level ducates to straight up blue money, heads are on the line. How far does the rabbit hole go? Bob Iger got his tail singed by the proxy battle, now he has to demonstrate his fiduciary responsibility to the true power behind the throne. The major stockholders must be demanding attention to the bottom line. Marvel has taken steps, now it's Lucas Films turn. You can bet on The Power of Money!😊
Most of my ancestry is West African, and I've been a fan of Star Wars since the Spring of 1977. I have never felt unwelcome or unsafe within Star Wars fandom. I've taken more grief from my own family about my enjoyment of Science Fiction and Fantasy than from any fandom group.
I saw videos of those old Star Wars premieres and it made me feel good to be reminded what a REAL Star Wars fan base looked like. No stupid toxic activist fixation on skin colour, just all these happy DIVERSE fans everywhere.. George Lucas created something amazing, and I'm not just talking about his movies. And Disney decided to let KK burn it to the ground.. I want my Star Wars back.
there's more to Start Wars than just the Skywalkers. there's more to the Bible than just Jesus. there's more to being gay than just who you have sex with. there's more to golf than just hitting a little ball into a cup. 🤔🤷♂️
Wait. TYPICAL SPINSTER. Showing apple vs orange in a trick (Or Jacob is another ignorant fan). What he showed are two different SHOWS altogether. He is showing the Clone War MOVIE (90-minute full movie) numbers vs the 7th season of the weekly 30-minute show. Season 7 was by far, above and beyond all of the other seasons. Given this, seasons 3, 4, and 6 were really good. However, season 1 wasn't really good. Season 2 was just a bit better. It really took off with great stories in season 3.
"Stuck with more of the same?" Weren't the approved reviewers saying everything that came out was the bestest Star Wars than the one before? What's the complaint?
B.I. and the board have a fiduciary(legal) responsibility to the shareholders to act and move in ways that are in the financial BEST INTEREST of the Company and Shareholders. It can be demonstrated that they are knowingly and willfully acting to the contrary. A class-action of shareholders would moat certainly get certified in Fl.
Who was "supposed" to be the villain in Acolyte? Thier morale gray was all the wrong readings. If you want morale gray you need to have your series knowledge intact.
1:30 using the Clone Wars as a defense for keeping the Acolyte is a pretty weak defense; the Clone Wars could at least sustain itself before it hit its stride through merch sales and especially toys. What is the Acolyte offering that will sustain itself? Nobody bought any of the High Republic media, and Disney Star Wars toys routinely end up on clearance. To say nothing about the differences in budget.
Wasn't Filoni working on Ashoka when Mando 3 was being done? From what i remember he had little involvement with that season. And when did all the Filoni hate start? Few years ago people were singing his praises for his star wars work like Clone Wars, Rebels, and other stuff.
The original Star Wars was very diverse. It had alien beings, genders, colours, etc from all over the galaxy, working in all sorts of trades, military and administrative roles. OMG, lefties just want to focus on the human characters. Can’t get any more diverse than Jaba the Hutt.
I was at university when my computer science friends watched Star Wars A New Hope when it premiered. My friend Don was black. Star Wars was not an all white experience. It's weird to think the Acolyte star thinks that Star Wars is not a safe space for nerds of every color.
Hey Valliant, Andor was originally scheduled for five seasons but Bob Chapek thankfully eliminated the middle three. They had to scramble to rewrite the middle seasons as a series of time jumps to cover what was in those scrapped seasons. I’m surprised you don’t remember this.
I could care less anymore about anyone who thought this show was amazing at all. The only reason why they love it is coz they got paid to say it, or the show simply ticked their social boxes. These Individuals don’t know what a decent show is at all. This is what they wanted, but the people footing the bill said otherwise. If the viewership is not there, and no financial return on initial investment, then it’s canned. Not the first show to be canned, and certainly won’t be the last. I’m convinced the price tag for this show actually went to marketing and advertising, over set design, costumes, actors and screenwriting.
It sucks cause people always wanna get paid more money which hinders a lot of shows from being produced then when u add Disney and stock share n blah blah blah it's to many hands in the pot
Cultural-political extremists have always existed, but something about them in today's America makes them want to bust out of the crevices of society. They're the ones who've enabled or supported the socio-political system in, for example, the People's Republic of China. For over 80 years.
I just wish I could of seen their faces when they were told they weren’t getting their likeness’s used for new toys cause you know you made it big time when they make toy dolls of your character but none for you Amandla the dumbest line in Star Wars history Now attack me with all your strength!! So stupid I’m still laughing about it! What morons!
Valliant, you can make this argument till you're blue in the face; when you're dealing with people that have no respect for capitalism, they aren't going to care what things cost/what they return because they have no respect for money at all. All they know is "Thing that spreads my message is gone. I'm offended".
The clone wars animated movie did suck. I was there. I went to the theater to see it. The show obviously did a better job at laying out a story and character building, making it more beloved.
Supernatural went on for 15 seasons. People laughed at the fan girls and dismissed it as a niche product but it kept delivering the numbers and made pretty profits . If all those activist crybabies who are raging and pointing fingers now had actually watched the Acolyte, it would have gotten a season 2. Disney was desperate to sell it as a success but the numbers are simply too bad and even Kathleen Kennedy can’t find an excuse to waste another $180mil on it. I’m pretty sure it’ll disappear shortly to allow Disney a tax write off.
Some of these actors need to read the japanese voice actor playbook on how to become brand ambassadors. And i know for a fact that a decent chunk of american actors know these guidelines, but its very apparent that a decent amount dont, or simply do not care. So anyways: - seperate your professional life and personal life unless it brings a positive but neutral vibe to it. Personal matters that voice actors talk about is them getting married, getting a child, their hobbies, or where they went on vacation. No politics, heck they dont even mention which sports team they like. They might enjoy baseball, they might be fan of a particular player, but they never outwardly support a particular team. THATS how neutral they are. - be nice. Ffs, be nice. Even their studios do this: they mightve made a product that disgruntled the fans, but their response is usually along the line of “we APOLOGIZE for not meeting expectation of some fans, but we felt at the time that this was the best course of action”. - if they fcked up, even by accident, stay low. Stay very low. Ride it out for a while until it washes over. DO NOT make it worse by responding. - be gracious. Even if ur the main voices for a multibillion dollar franchise like Demon Slayer, be gracious. Thank the fans for their ongoing support these past years, hope they enjoy the next installment, apologies for any unmet expectations. And If u think “ pfft, its only japan, their entertainment industry is not as big as the US” and while that is true, that doesnt deny the fact that theyre the second largest entertainment industry on the planet. And their actors, voice actors, artists, the faces that represent those products… they damn well better do their job properly as the product’s ambassadors.
“Sci-fi fans are all sexist! They can’t handle a diverse show starting a woman!”
**Laughs in Star Trek: Voyager**
Voyager was literally the only Star Trek I watched.
Ellen Ripley would like to have a word with them.
I think that Padme and Leia would have something to say about that. So would Sarah Conners and Alice (Resident Evil).
@@susandolan9543 Alice very quickly became a Mary Sue, she doesn't' count.
“…even the flies left!” Great line!
Thank ya
Original Star Wars had black male leads with substantial gravitas: James Earl Jones and Billy Dee Williams
"Why would any actors work for you" is good. If no actors want to work for Disney Star Wars, there won't be any Disney Star Wars.
Keep the pressure up, boys. We're gonna win this.
The show didn't get viewers.
The merchandise isn't selling.
Disney removed the merchandise from their store, leading me to believe their future projections show it will not make up the cost, if not damage the franchise.
Disney+ looking to also have ad-tiers, leading me to believe internally they know ads will not support this show
This was *the* mainstream showing of "The High Republic" which was their first original content in the SW universe. The books didn't sell. The merchandise didn't sell. The most mainstream form (Acolyte) was a massive failure.
The only positive thing about the initiative was that it was a New York Times best seller. However, if you actually look into it, that is a meaningless metric.
Its like when tv spots will say "the #1 movie in america" when the Statement means absolutely nothing.
"....only to throw them to the wolves!"
That's hollyweird, baby!!!! 🖕
The primary audience for The Acolyte was side shaved, blue haired 18-35 y/o's. The primary audience for The Clone Wars was 8-18 y/o's. And I say this as someone who watched the Clone Wars as an adult in his 30's... you can get away with poorer writing if your primary audience isn't old enough to drive watching the show on cable with ads.
What's your point?
I think the point is that you are not comparing apples with apples. For started the original anime style Clone Wars was created for children and young adults in mind and the critics were the ones that hated it.
Shills be shillin' and fans be chillin'. 😂
TFA ONLY did well because it had been *32 YEARS* since a Star Wars movie, 32 YEARS.
Exactly. Any competent studio executive would understand this.
It had been 10 when it finally dropped
You're not counting Revenge of the Sith?
You mean since a star wars sequal...
This should show them (and us) definitively just how big the "modern audience" is.
Being Scottish I can sum the Acolyte in three simple words... " It's Sh*te ". No need for nuance etc.
Thousands of people..... We have a list of people who will populate a new mental institution.....
I question the level of empathy in individuals who believe they can only identify with a property if it is represented by someone of their own race or orientation.
Go figure that once economic conditions make it harder to have venture capital subsidize propaganda, and needs to appeal to the genuine fans that stuff like acolyte and willow is purged. At least Daisy Riddley didn't drop a dis track on the fans after episode 8 😂.
She wasn't the problem. The writing was.
@@SamtheBravesFan Agreed on the Daisy Riddley front, but I thought it was one of the actresses in the Acolyte that just went out and threw shade at the people who didn't like the show, and was simply pointing out that for as bad as TLJ and RoS were received, that at least Daisy, Oscar, Adam, Jon, Kelly or Gwendolyn going out and throwing shade towards fans.
For everyone who is screaming online about the loss of the Acolyte, why, why, why didn’t you and more friends watch the darn thing while it aired? The number of viewed minutes clearly demonstrate that you and your gal pals didn’t take the time to watch the darn thing in the first place.
I’m guessing they did but the people really saw which sides the majority. Although, they aren’t wrong that more people will watch it in the future, but where they are wrong is that it depends on successful entertainment. I haven’t watched it yet but judging by people’s reactions it’s as popular as all stars to the rescue and that was all about not using a special spice.
This is not anything NEW. The original Battlestar Galactica had a larger fan base back-in-the-day, but it was too expensive to be profitable for NBC. The Acolyte doesn't have anywhere near the fanbase classic BSG did while somehow costing more, even after the inflation adjustment. Even Disney cannot continue to bleed cash like that for so little return.
Jon F doesn't have a chance to make a good Mando movie, woke disney won't let it happen.
Yeah after Mando 3, we should be concerned
3rd season was so bad, I won't give 2nd chance of viewing anything related.
Star Wars "is" the Skywalker's story... They "are" the story!
"Star Wars was only the Skywalker saga"
...Did bro forget about the books? Plenty of others are in there with their stories- (No, Disney's "decanonizing" does not count, Disney's wasn't canon)
Dog squeeze?🤣🤣🤣
Cow pie?🤣🤣🤣 by FAR the best analogy I've heard YET!!!!👏👏👏
He must’ve been a fan of Neil Boortz because he used dog squeeze to describe political nonsense all the time in his talk radio show out of Atlanta.
Cow pies is old as dirt, I’ve heard that description for about 50 years now.😉👍
@JohnFourtyTwo what's your point? It's still a spot-on analogy ...
@@jamesruckman4249 It speaks for itself. If you need me to spell it out for you then you’re out of luck because I don’t have the time or patience to teach you reading comprehension that your elementary school teachers failed at teaching you.
@JohnFourtyTwo trying to slam someone on what they say as if words were owned by someone else tells me you are a sad person
Hell, if they made worthy Star Wars content outside of the Skywalker saga then fans will gravitate towards it. We have already seen that to a notable extent with Mando 1&2. I do rather agree with this argument that the Star Wars Universe NEEDS to expand past the Skywalker saga nostalgia bait. We've had ENOUGH of that. However, key point being that the content HAS to be quality content. The New Republic era could well be a MASSIVE missed opportunity. It's already become tarnished by the garbage of The Acolyte.
The acolyte isn’t going to become more beloved. You killed off everyone including the audience. Like the movies had a 100m people worldwide buying tickets. The acolyte got maybe 1-2 m views on its finale
There not going to battlefront 3 with osha and Mae
There was no book sales of note
There just people on Twitter and Twitter isn’t profitable or real life
The reason why these Disney actors are out running their mouths like this is because that is the culture that is present at Disney. This is their _reality_ , they are merely talking as they would normally because this is what they have been conditioned to believe. It's in interviews, it's on X, it's at comic con, and they don't think twice about it because this is normal for them. In their eyee _we_ are the problem, and they're out fighting the good fight and being the heroes and making changes that humanity needs
One shill has a hundred shill accounts.
Thanks for explaining to people who haven't yet understood most of this.
Let's hope this one does it. (Don't hold your breath. ;^)
Someone help me understand why people would ACTIVELY want something that’s OBJECTIVELY bad. I mean, woke stuff aside. This show made no sense, was silly, and worst of all terribly boring. I mean is putting up with all of that worth the few woke points? It makes me wonder if a lot of these woke screamers, don’t even care about, the acolyte, Star Wars, or movies in general. Maybe they never even saw it.
Yeah - and someone explain why these people WANT racism to exist at the ridiculous level they believe it does. Anything to prove they are right and the real victim.
There is no "woke stuff aside." These people were told that this show was for them. That's the only reason why it mattered to them.
Were they real Star Wars fans? Absolutely not!! No true Star Wars fan would sign off on this. In fact, no half measured fan who knows just enough lore to understand what's going on would sign off on this.
These woke idiots think they're entitled and can take whatever they want because they represent the noble DEI. What they don't understand is that the only DEI they represent is "Didn't Earn It."
Id like to know how disney even survived losing billions of dollars in flops since 2015 ?
Normally companies cant afford have loses for 9 years straight....
Sure they did have few successes but there a drop in the ocean to the billions in loses
Thanks!
CALLING THESE PEOPLE PIXIE DUSTERS IS AN INSULT THE PIXIE DUSTERS THESE GUYS ARE SOMETHING ELSE
@oryanstar1010 I never heard Pixie dusters in this context. I know the term. Can you elaborate? Clownfish used it a lot right?
Star wars has been cool for Black Nerds from the beginning.
If the Clone Wars were released today it would still be successful, because it was a decent story people enjoyed.
I didn't like it too much but I know plenty of people who did.
The Acolyte may have been renewed if the audience was there.
The fact that it wasn't proves not enough people watched it to justify the absurd cost to produce it.
"Threw them to the wolves". Yes my gawd , they'll have to get their AGENTS to find THEM another job. In the meantime the money they got PAID will barely tide them over. Won't SOMEONE think of the actors?
Exactly. Disney did what they did knowingly. I would caution any actor not to work for Disney without a good contract that allows them to sue Disney for such things.
did you know you can't even find a pirated copy of Willow? i have no idea how they did it, but the only evidence that Willow was rebooted is all of the articles and videos made about it. not even pirate bay has even a single episode. it's like they used DeleteMe on it or something 🤣👉
But.... but... the ACOLYTE was going to be just like what that hit song from Wyld Stallyns was going to do like unite the world, end world hunger, stop all wars, end hatred from certain parts of the male population, clear up acne, cure all disease and even more like Rufus said????!!!! :P
In All my years of Gaming and Entertainment I never knew I needed a safe space and how in Danger I am from Words I Guess lmaooo. Gen z may be the weakest Generation in History of Mankind
clone wars didn't put woke, dei and the feminist agenda before a well written story, with continuity and actually follow the establish lore and it was just a cartoon meant for kids.
where the aaack was like watch a bunch of ADHD squirrels trying to decide on crossing the road while they attacked each other for no reason.
it was not made for men, per lh herself.
Men are the target audience for Star Wars and men have proven that they loved Star Wars because it was a cash cow.
she-wars on the other had specifically per kk said it was for women,
the result of that is the global fan base walked away from she-wars so all that's left are the woke shills that haven't been able to fill the void left by the no longer existent Star Wars fan base.
it's that simple disney chose the wrong demographics to pander to.
Keep in mind, “The Clone Wars” started as a feature length film released into theatres then moved to the Cartoon Network.
Clones Wars 2003 acted as a promotional tie in for a toy line. It was so successful, the animated series won an emmy. At first, George looked at the Clone Wars as a throwaway event that happenes between episode 2 and 3. But once he saw the successes, he and the animators at Lucasfilm Animated drew up the concept which eneded up being the feature film and the rest is history. Its crazy how George never considered the Clone Wars as a pivotal event and how close we were to not getting it.
No, The Clone Wars feature film was four episodes from season one, edited together. If you watch carefully, you can see the fades where the ad breaks would usually be. Putting it in theatres was an afterthought
Yes, the artist is from the same dude who made Samurai Jack, one of my faves (and because he listens to the fans he made one final season of Samurai Jack to close the ending where Jack finally goes home).
My only comment is that Star Wars was not worth $4B in 2012. Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) was part of that purchase, and while I don't know the breakdown, I would say at least half that buy was for ILM. Still I don't think you'd get $2B for Star Wars today. You might get $500,000,000 if you said you were going to all scrapheap all Star Wars, excluding Rouge One and maybe Andor, from the Disney era.
The only point that i disagree is that star wars is just the Skywalkers. It could ve so much more. But it needs good writing. And because they killed the original trio in a stupid way, many fans won't come back. They shot themselves in the foot right at the beginning.
Thank you for explaining buisness terms to a laymen/kid of any age Valiant. TITLES ARE MOST IMPORTANT
I can't see Dave Filoni leaving Jon alone to make a good movie.
If he can't get his second season you can bet he will ruin intentionally or otherwise the Mandalorian movie to insure he can complete his pet character's story!
We know how bad the viewer ship is, but Disney would also know how many of these viewers were new to D+, as in it probably didn’t drive new subscribers
While Disney did sadly cancel "The Acolyte", they are producing a new exciting series unrelated to Star Wars, "Gay Witches in Space".
I’ve been patiently waiting to see live action movies about young Luke Skywalker’s adventures after the original trilogy. Recast Luke, Leia, Han et al please 🙏
The Skywalkers also continued in the EU books, etc.
Yes, there were other characters such as Bane and Revan but it served to explain Obi-wan's 1000 generation dialogue from Star Wars, as well as Ki-Adi Mundi's line in TPM
The show was so terribly written that I couldn’t tell who was supposed to be good or evil.
The only death threats I've seen online are from people who are mad it was cancelled. This was an awful show she was bad in it and I'm not a racist for not liking her. She's a spoilt rich girl who has never struggled in her life for anything and her show sucked. End of. Rachael Ziegler is the exact same
Wow MY news sources have been crazy the past couple days and I had to be late to watch them.
I’m on mostly on social media all the time never heard of an acolyte proud of myself.
Theira a hierarchy to everything in life and Disney forgot this one sumple point.......We(the fans/consumer) are not here for them, they(the product)are here for us......we dont need Disney they need us.......if you give a product most dont want plus you tell the consumer this product isnt for you or most then you have lost aite of the goal.....and in cases like that a hard reminder is necessary
"There's more to Star Wars than the Skywalkers!"
Said the people who just rehashed Anakin's story but with a black chick and called it original.
Lego Star Wars is probably the only big source of income for Disney SW lmao
You can explain till your blue in the face, how absolutely garbage tier Acolyte was. Poor writing, poor acting, everything was dreadful, but they'll still scream and yell "ista-phobe".😒
It's Business 101, people if it doesn't turn a profit they take it off the shelf.
TCW probably drove merchandise as well
One thing that may come out of the Gina Carano lawsuit, where is the money being spent? Shill payouts have to be in someone's budget. From low level ducates to straight up blue money, heads are on the line. How far does the rabbit hole go? Bob Iger got his tail singed by the proxy battle, now he has to demonstrate his fiduciary responsibility to the true power behind the throne. The major stockholders must be demanding attention to the bottom line. Marvel has taken steps, now it's Lucas Films turn. You can bet on The Power of Money!😊
Most of my ancestry is West African, and I've been a fan of Star Wars since the Spring of 1977. I have never felt unwelcome or unsafe within Star Wars fandom. I've taken more grief from my own family about my enjoyment of Science Fiction and Fantasy than from any fandom group.
Yeah, stuff like what they say is the reason why they are losing fans instead of gaining fans. It’s people like us who will get more fans.
I saw videos of those old Star Wars premieres and it made me feel good to be reminded what a REAL Star Wars fan base looked like.
No stupid toxic activist fixation on skin colour, just all these happy DIVERSE fans everywhere..
George Lucas created something amazing, and I'm not just talking about his movies.
And Disney decided to let KK burn it to the ground..
I want my Star Wars back.
Exactly. It was HIGHLY diverse in 1980
"Overprivledged skittles nation white women..."
Damn, la reina creole went FULL SAVAGE!😂
there's more to Start Wars than just the Skywalkers.
there's more to the Bible than just Jesus.
there's more to being gay than just who you have sex with.
there's more to golf than just hitting a little ball into a cup.
🤔🤷♂️
Wait. TYPICAL SPINSTER. Showing apple vs orange in a trick (Or Jacob is another ignorant fan). What he showed are two different SHOWS altogether. He is showing the Clone War MOVIE (90-minute full movie) numbers vs the 7th season of the weekly 30-minute show. Season 7 was by far, above and beyond all of the other seasons. Given this, seasons 3, 4, and 6 were really good. However, season 1 wasn't really good. Season 2 was just a bit better. It really took off with great stories in season 3.
She meant fake nerds.
THEY ARE NOT COCA COLA ❤.
"Stuck with more of the same?"
Weren't the approved reviewers saying everything that came out was the bestest Star Wars than the one before?
What's the complaint?
B.I. and the board have a fiduciary(legal) responsibility to the shareholders to act and move in ways that are in the financial BEST INTEREST of the Company and Shareholders. It can be demonstrated that they are knowingly and willfully acting to the contrary. A class-action of shareholders would moat certainly get certified in Fl.
Who was "supposed" to be the villain in Acolyte? Thier morale gray was all the wrong readings. If you want morale gray you need to have your series knowledge intact.
1:30 using the Clone Wars as a defense for keeping the Acolyte is a pretty weak defense; the Clone Wars could at least sustain itself before it hit its stride through merch sales and especially toys. What is the Acolyte offering that will sustain itself? Nobody bought any of the High Republic media, and Disney Star Wars toys routinely end up on clearance. To say nothing about the differences in budget.
Wasn't Filoni working on Ashoka when Mando 3 was being done? From what i remember he had little involvement with that season.
And when did all the Filoni hate start? Few years ago people were singing his praises for his star wars work like Clone Wars, Rebels, and other stuff.
Feels great to have always been on the right side of history.
The original Star Wars was very diverse. It had alien beings, genders, colours, etc from all over the galaxy, working in all sorts of trades, military and administrative roles. OMG, lefties just want to focus on the human characters. Can’t get any more diverse than Jaba the Hutt.
I was at university when my computer science friends watched Star Wars A New Hope when it premiered. My friend Don was black. Star Wars was not an all white experience. It's weird to think the Acolyte star thinks that Star Wars is not a safe space for nerds of every color.
Hey Valliant, Andor was originally scheduled for five seasons but Bob Chapek thankfully eliminated the middle three. They had to scramble to rewrite the middle seasons as a series of time jumps to cover what was in those scrapped seasons. I’m surprised you don’t remember this.
Very nice and pedagogic explanation there at the 5 min mark.
Even for dummies like... ummm... me 😉
I could care less anymore about anyone who thought this show was amazing at all. The only reason why they love it is coz they got paid to say it, or the show simply ticked their social boxes. These Individuals don’t know what a decent show is at all.
This is what they wanted, but the people footing the bill said otherwise. If the viewership is not there, and no financial return on initial investment, then it’s canned.
Not the first show to be canned, and certainly won’t be the last.
I’m convinced the price tag for this show actually went to marketing and advertising, over set design, costumes, actors and screenwriting.
Disney/Hollywood needs better critics in line with thier ACTUAL audience. Not the Audience THEY are watching.
Sorry never knew HOW to tip before. No one in my friend circle taught me. Thank Disparu, I think u have seen him, he Hard English taught me indirectly
EVEN THE FLIES LEFT 💀
Byegar should start selling Woke Cope Soda ~ they'd turn the tide on the 200M of value theyve lost.
10:20..." why would any actors want to work for you? ". Money. Actors work for money.
Disney attracts the absolute worst of the actors, actresses, writers and producers.
It sucks cause people always wanna get paid more money which hinders a lot of shows from being produced then when u add Disney and stock share n blah blah blah it's to many hands in the pot
I wonder how many people who signed it actually watched it?
even the Mandalorian went of the charts when they put Luke in it
Here is what people NEED to understand, even Sir. Laurence Olivier, one of the best actors to ever live can't do anything with a crap script.
it's good the Stock Dives.
Cultural-political extremists have always existed, but something about them in today's America makes them want to bust out of the crevices of society. They're the ones who've enabled or supported the socio-political system in, for example, the People's Republic of China. For over 80 years.
I just wish I could of seen their faces when they were told they weren’t getting their likeness’s used for new toys cause you know you made it big time when they make toy dolls of your character but none for you Amandla the dumbest line in Star Wars history Now attack me with all your strength!! So stupid I’m still laughing about it! What morons!
Valliant, you can make this argument till you're blue in the face; when you're dealing with people that have no respect for capitalism, they aren't going to care what things cost/what they return because they have no respect for money at all.
All they know is "Thing that spreads my message is gone. I'm offended".
I expect Dave Filoni‘s productions to be just as crappy and just as audience free as everything else Lucasfilm is put out recently.
I want an audit
Your new name. Valliant Defender 💪🏻⚔️
Ill take it
Disney wouldn't be having these sort of problems with a GOOD, activist-free, Mace Windu series.
Yes! Above all else, Star Wars is the Skywalker saga ❤
I loved Rogue One though and I also loved TFA but then…😅hmmm
Disney STAR WARS = NO STAR WARS
Disney isn't in the hole, Disney is the hole
Ha!
They are 'Grade A' holes, too!
VR, how dare you to leave out Chewie?! 😉
Yep, I said something not positive about Ubisoft and my message was removed. I even added a message that was positive and that got removed. 5:58
The clone wars animated movie did suck. I was there. I went to the theater to see it. The show obviously did a better job at laying out a story and character building, making it more beloved.
Supernatural went on for 15 seasons. People laughed at the fan girls and dismissed it as a niche product but it kept delivering the numbers and made pretty profits . If all those activist crybabies who are raging and pointing fingers now had actually watched the Acolyte, it would have gotten a season 2. Disney was desperate to sell it as a success but the numbers are simply too bad and even Kathleen Kennedy can’t find an excuse to waste another $180mil on it. I’m pretty sure it’ll disappear shortly to allow Disney a tax write off.
Some of these actors need to read the japanese voice actor playbook on how to become brand ambassadors. And i know for a fact that a decent chunk of american actors know these guidelines, but its very apparent that a decent amount dont, or simply do not care. So anyways:
- seperate your professional life and personal life unless it brings a positive but neutral vibe to it. Personal matters that voice actors talk about is them getting married, getting a child, their hobbies, or where they went on vacation. No politics, heck they dont even mention which sports team they like. They might enjoy baseball, they might be fan of a particular player, but they never outwardly support a particular team. THATS how neutral they are.
- be nice. Ffs, be nice. Even their studios do this: they mightve made a product that disgruntled the fans, but their response is usually along the line of “we APOLOGIZE for not meeting expectation of some fans, but we felt at the time that this was the best course of action”.
- if they fcked up, even by accident, stay low. Stay very low. Ride it out for a while until it washes over. DO NOT make it worse by responding.
- be gracious. Even if ur the main voices for a multibillion dollar franchise like Demon Slayer, be gracious. Thank the fans for their ongoing support these past years, hope they enjoy the next installment, apologies for any unmet expectations.
And If u think “ pfft, its only japan, their entertainment industry is not as big as the US” and while that is true, that doesnt deny the fact that theyre the second largest entertainment industry on the planet. And their actors, voice actors, artists, the faces that represent those products… they damn well better do their job properly as the product’s ambassadors.
Yes