BAC 1-11. Part one - British World Airlines.
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- The BWA fleet of five BAC 1-11 500 series at London Southend Airport between 1993 and 1997. VHS recording.
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What the viewers don’t know is how the ground trembled when those engines powered up. Whether you were 8yrs old or 88yrs old, you always loved the sound of a 1-11.
Those Spey engines were so loud. Probably the loudest aircraft without reheat.
The absolute highlight of any trip to Manchester Airport when I was a kid was hearing one of these. Just...wow.
What an absolutely beautiful aircraft. As for the sound... someone not watching this video might be mistaken for thinking it contains formations of fighter jets taking off. Love it.
The BAC 111 was my first flight I ever made from Schiphol (Amsterdam) to London for a weekend in 1972, before that I had my first flight in 1968 in a Cirrus glider.
What an experience that was for me with the BAC-111, I had a seat at the very back near the window (29A ?) so that I could hear the good old-fashioned engines well, I think they made even more noise than a DC9, I also as a Dutchman of now 72 years old, always had great respect for English pilots (although those of KLM also do a great job) ...
It must be because of all the films about the 2nd World War and 1940 with the brave Spitfire pilots in the battle for England. From 1972 I went to London 12 times with a Tristar and Trident three. in the last 10 years I have only made 4 flights with the Catalina (with 2 radial engines 2x 1200 hp) above the Netherlands and made water landings on the IJsselmeer, the current aircraft no longer fascinate me...they are too quiet (great for local residents of course) and too modern.
From Belfasts to 1-11’s Viscounts and 707’s this is all tremendous stuff 👍🏻✈️
As an American, I flew the BAC1-11 several times and it was a real treat. Wonderful aircraft!
Excellent powerful sound. Funny thing is a lot of people living around Southend airport are whinging about the noise from 20 year old 737 400 taking off lol
I grew up in NYC, in the eastern part of The Bronx next to Pelham Bay. In the early and mid '60's, American, Piedmont, Allegheny and others flew the 1-11. When the wind was from the north and LGA was departing on RWY 04, they flew right overhead. For a young lad it didn't get any better! That was before the days of the clumsy noise abatement tailpipes. The 1-11 made the F-4 Phantom sound like a glider. Windows rattled and all the boys loved it. Never got to fly on one though. I did get a few rides on its big brother- the wonderful VC-10.
That sounds awesome. I used to sit at the end of the runway at Leeds Bradford airport and the 111's etc would take off right over my head. Can't do it now they extended the runway though.
Incidentally the BAC111 used RR Spey engines, the same engine type as the RAF F4 Phantoms
Omit Piedmont, add Mohawk.
"Court Airlines" based at Luton in the early 70's used to use these , each one had a specific colour of the rainbow , they looked amazing.
there is a very unique sound produced by the RR Spey engine. As a kid I lived near Buffalo International airport and the B 1-11 was the most common plane flown by Mohawk then Allegheny at the time. I also got to fly on several occasions. Then in 86 I flew from Orlando to PIE on Florida Express- Great plane
@gregory hatton Also flew Allegheny and USAIR 1-11s more times than I can remember, but I always sat in the back to hear the engine sounds. Even recorded them with a small cassette recorder. Love that aircraft.
First plane I travelled on. Lovely little aircraft 👍👍👍
Memories of the noise...... and the two trails of brown smoke behind them !!
Love it, thanks!!
Me too! Liverpool to London……on Friday the 13th!
I flew back from Lisbon on a BWA 1-11 (in a thunderstorm) once when the BA aircraft became unserviceable.
I loaded bags on these bac 1-11s when I worked for us air in the early 80,s ,it added to my hearing loss even wearing ear protection, it brings back fond memories.
I just found these videos after a year of looking. It came up in suggested videos. So glad love these classics
Welcome aboard!
Funny that as a passenger the noise level inside the aircraft wasn`t that bad at all, even compared to some modern jets, my first ever trip on a BAC 11-11-500 was with Courtline from Luton to Gerona in 1971.
I was lucky enough to fly in one of these in 1998. Gatwick to Verona. Sat right next to the engine :-)
Wow! What a memorable sound. I was fortunate to fly on the BAC 111 many times out of my hometown airport, EVV. Allegheny Airiines flew them from EVV to IND with continuing service to PIT and points east. They acquired the BAC 111s from their merger with Mohawk Airlines. I would love to sit in the rear with a window seat and listen to the spool up of the Rolls Royce engines, a unique loud and shrill whine. Later when Delta Airlines pulled out of EVV in 1982, Britt Airways took over Delta's EVV to ORD route using the BAC 111. I was a travel agent at the time and flew on Britt passes to ORD often. Britt also flew the F-27 and FH-227B on the route. For a small, intermediate city, EVV had a lot of unique aircraft. We even had Air Illinois fly the Hawker Siddeley 748 to Memphis and Chicago. This was another great aircraft to fly. Thank you for uploading this gem. Love it!!
The BAC 1-11 was the first jet aircraft I flew in. But the first time I ever rode a plane was on an HS 748.
Wonderful nostalgia! Thank you.
This Plane, was my Standard-Jet for the Transit Flight´s from West-Germany to West - Berlin. I loved it!
Afaik, they came low over Kurt-Schumacher-Platz in Berlin-Tegel, right in the middle of residential houses.
Literally put me in a time machine this video!!😢 great memories and sad at the fact its history now 😪 thanks for sharing 👍🏻 The Bac 1-11 🇬🇧 A British icon!!! P.s What a noise machine she was 👍🏻
They were among the loudest, most deafening civilian aircraft I have ever encountered. They take off like rockets.
Of all the commercial aircraft, past and present, I think the only ones that can match or even exceed the extreme noise of a BAC 1-11 taking off are the Concordes and VC-10s.
What about the Tridents?
Will Brown
You mean the Hawker Siddeley Tridents??
I personally never encountered a Siddeley Trident taking off, but since it was equipped with 3 RR Spey engines you could be right. Have you encountered one taking off??
I can confirm that a Trident revving up to full power before commencing its take off run was distinctly louder than a BAC 1-11 - simply because it had three Speys to the 1-11's two.
And a Hawker Siddeley Nimrod was even louder, because it had FOUR Speys.
I also remember the Caravelle, Fokker F-28, Tupolev Tu-134 and some early 737's taking off from Oslo. Fornebu. It was earth shattering at times. Let's make a top 8 list and we are all in for some severe hearing loss. I flew Tridents from Oslo to London and from inside the cabin it was a joy.
Fab upload and thanks so much. Ear splitting ear candy! Wasnt familiar with British World as I had already migrated to Australia in 1971, but remember the B-Line 1-11's VM series well from my EGCC plane spotting days in the late 60's, early 70's. Lovely memories
My God those engines! They dont make them like that any more
Passenger plane nuts as a child. Had to wait til I was 11 to fly away on holiday. Summer 1969 Gatwick to Pula (Yugoslavia) in a BUA BAC 1-11. The old folks in front of us decidedly unhappy at my telling them we so lucky to sit at the back cos we stood a better chance of surviving if the plane breaks up when we land. ... Something to look forward to on the flight ! Captain invited all the children and dads to come up to the flight deck. Got some great photos. The holiday was just putting in time til we got to go home. I remember being so excited to take flights. Good sound insulation cos quiet inside.!
Thank you for your brilliant video
very very very good! Thanks for sharing!
My first airline. Happy Days indeed! !
My dad piloted these aircraft back in the 80's for Braniff and Florida Express
I flew it about 8,000 hours with Mohawk and Allegheny, about half in each seat, between 1968 and 1980, before moving to the DC-9, then the MD-80 before retirement. It was a very responsive airplane, both in controls and engine power, and di sound much like a jet fighter with afterburner engaged at takeoff. Of course, with rear mounted engines, the noise, when flying it, wasn't a factor.
Allegheny became USAir in October, 1979, then US Airways in 1993. Those of us who retired from that airline are now officially American Airlines retirees, with all benefits applying thereto.
Best sound ever
Great aircraft,in our country in the Bahamas,we had 5 of them in the late 70's-80's,love em.👍👍👍
Nice sound from Rolls-Royce engine.
En mi país Argentina lo adquirió la empresa Austral Líneas Aéreas, los que yo recuerdo son el LV-JMZ, LV-JNT, LV-IZS, LV-JGY,accidentado, LV-LOX,accidentado, LV-JNT, LV-JNT, LV-LHT, y hay más,yo de fanático de los BAC.
These were the first planes I ever traveled on. Allegheny /USAIR had a Saturday flight sale for more than 2 years. Travel on a Saturday from Toledo through Pittsburgh and come back on a Tuesday-$49 roundtrip, system wide. I visited a lot of cities in those two years and always sat in the back of the plane, so I could record the engine sounds with a miniature cassette recorder. This brings back a lot of memories and these BAC 1-11s started my love of flying especially takeoffs.Those Rolls Royce Speys would really push you back in the seat
leaving Toledo since we had short runways then and they ran the engines at 100 % power.
Wow wow wow what a great channel 😍😍😍 i sub!!! Greetings from zrh, sandro
The whine of the Speys on start-up! Such a great sound!
The first aircraft I flew in was a Comet 4b - nothing seemed that loud after that! I did fly on a BAC 1-11 once, I liked it.
American Airlines flew One-Eleven Series 400s for about one or two decades. They were called "400 Astrojets."
great...THANK YOU..happy days..do you have any more..?
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the BAC One Eleven is a beautiful plane, but the sound of the engines spooling up almost makes my ears bleed. Oh well, it's an amazing vintage '60s-'70s aircraft, and planes were noisier at the time. But planes were just as amazing as the ones we have today.
I flew on an Empire Airlines 111 in the late 80's. Nice place.
If you're referring to the Empire Airlines based at Oneida County Airport in Utica, NY, after the departure of Mohawk to Allegheny, you rode in a Fokker 28, similar in appearance to the original DC-9/10. That's the equipment it was flying when acquired by Piedmont in 1985, which, in turn, was merged into USAir, in 1989. USAir then purchased about 20 of the extended 100 seat Fokker 100, which it operated for about 5 years. I flew the 1-11 with Mohawk and Allegheny/USAir.
Oh, that was great!! Im glad I made my way over to fly on one of these in 2002 before noise regulations shut them down!!
That was an airplane worth getting reengined. Great fuselage but a maintenance headache.
Now that's great
111 incredible
BAC 111s like the Viscount before them were excessively noisy around airports among their other short comings (range and capacity). Apparently some of them lived in Africa, but for how long and with what results though now nearly all have disappeared.
Ah, the BA Super 1-11 fleet and operations at Manchester. They were good times! BA pulled the plug completely at Manchester about 10 years ago. Great times gradually turned sour for me between 1979 and 2006.
It was the first aircraft I flew in. Hilariously loud engines.
Hello, would it be ok to use this video on in my bac 111 overview?
thanks for you time ~ shaun
How times have changed for Southend Airport. Now it’s a great, busy little airport with many flights within Europe and some domestics literally on my doorstep.
dover one foxtrot All the good aircraft like 707, 1-11, 727, Old Soviet Tupolevs etc.. are pretty much gone or extremely rare to find. 🙁 I know Duxford has a 1-11 in BA colours and a museum in Scotland as well.
The one at 2:53 was filmed in the British sci-fi show "Bugs" (Season one 1995)
Flew on one of these from MIA to Grand Cayman with my Dad in 1972. I will never forget the thrill of the Speys. I thought it was BWIA, but can't seem to find out which airline it really was. Customs in Georgetown was relaxed, to say the least.
The Spey's logical end-development took the form of the Allison TF41-A2B, found on American A-7E Corsirs. Nicer sound, 15K# thrust, I believe would have done these birds justice.
I flew in these fellows many times on LACSA AIRLINES, líneas Aéreas Costa Rica S.A.
A fine Aircraft San Jose to Panama City to Cartagena,and on to Maracaibo,Venezuela,and back to Miami.
First aircraft i ever flew on when I was 9, it was a aerlingus, i think we got on through the rear stairs, it was a brilliant flight to birmingham.
The first agreement between the Romanians and the British was to sold new RR Tay engine when are ready -finnaly1984- to equip the plane made in Bucharest. Unfortunately, like in many other cases, the British did not keep their promise and sold the new engine only to Fokker and elsewhere. so the end of this wonderful plane was in the hands of the British.
I am proud because this plane was assembled / built in Romania. It was the most remarkable achievement of the aeronautical industry in Romania. It was the only non-Russian passenger plane built in the eastern camp. I can proudly say, I learned near the airplane factory, I played football on factory fields, and I visited it countless times. In the same place, Soviet planes were repaired. And the difference between the British and Russian industrial schools cannot be questioned. Wonderful things are coming out of the hands of the British,
their problem is that, they can't keep a promise.
It is sad that ROMBAC production did not flourish beyond the nine aircraft flown , as well as the plans for the R-R Tay engined version to be built in Romania. Financial problems were always the stumbling block.
All that noise+smoke 🎶😎👌
I want them back!
Agreed!
These RR Spey engines kind of sound like afterburners to me at takeoff.
They were loud, but afterburner would be another level of volume - I think I have Tornadoes on video at the same location, but the volume would be too much for the poor old camera!
Are the Fighter Jets (F-16 Fighting Falcon, F-18 Super Hornet, Sukhol SU-27, etc...) louder than the loudest BAC One-Eleven, or are they about the same but at a different volume?
incognito james. I have Viscounts up to the last passenger flights and some Parcel Force - it will be a future multi-part video. The next project after 707 part 7 will be Andovers, for those who can't wait to have their ears pierced by R-R Darts.!
The old 737 200 series were also pretty loud. On a quiet day where I used to live, one would take off and you could hear it for the longest time!
Did those hush kits really make any difference because they certainly seem just as loud as ever ?
had speys on ours then added so called hush kits. loud on a good day, on a hot, humid day deafening !!!!
Hi, not sure if anyone will read this but i have a question. Isn't there an extension on the engines of these aircraft that would equate to some kind of hush kit? Weren't the original BAC's engines shorter and without that thinnner addition to the back of the engines? Were these designated any differently than the original 111's? (i.e. BAC-111-500). Were they Rolls Royce enines? Was that back part made by them as well? Why do i come up with the name Spey in my head? Thanks for any feedback
This was the first aircraft I ever flew in 1972 on a flight to Majorca Spain I was 11 years old
I used to watch these planes operating from Buenos Aires Jorge Newbery airport.
That's WITH the hush-kit fitted folks!
I know she wouldn't be proper without her speys, but oh how I'd love to see a modernised 1-11 with new rolls Royce engines
One 1-11 was fitted with more modern Rolls Royce Tay engines. I saw it at Fanborough in 1988. It definitely was quieter.
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@@EricIrl : That was the extended 500 model, of course, I don't believe the 200s and 400s were retrofitted before being phased out in The U.S. and Europe. No U.S. airlines (Braniff, America, Mohawk, or Aloha; original purchasers) flew the 500.
If you only watch the by-pass ratio of those engines- unbelieveable!
Dan Air London BAC 1-11 G-AWWX without hush kit in 1977. Awesome from Majorca to Gatwick.
1-11 was a great plane, I flew LGW to Athens and back on a Laker one and LGW to Yugoslavia and back on a Tarom one 👍I don't recall them having hush kits fitted! 😂
What's that White spray @5:45?
Robin did you take any photos during these videos ?
Very few photos. I usually carried an Olympus XA2 at the time, which was not best suited to aircraft pics. Better equipped photographers - Keith Burton, David Oates etc.- were usually there at the time.
Some more 1-11 's, and plenty more of 90's Southend to come!
+Robin Pinnock Any Air Ferries viscount footage mate ?
+Rod James, I started videoing at the end of the BAF era, but there is some more Viscount footage to come.
Robin Pinnock can't wait !
Brilliant.. Once flew on an EAL 1-11 back in 97 to Italy :) .. Never forget the sound of them speys spooling up..
How do you pronounce it, one-eleven? Is the BAC 111 the same plane? Are they pronounced the same way?
British aircraft powered by British engines.
Now just videos.
Johnny foreigners very happy.
God I wish we could be transported back to this time.
Before I clicked on this video I already turned my volume down ......I saw a BAC one eleven take off out of KFLL and it was the loudest plane I ever heard until the B-1
It may be just me, or perhaps an illusion but I always thought the BAC had a more brisk take off roll than comparable machines like the DC9 or 727, admittedly I have no idea of Vref, Vr and Vne on the 111 but since a child watching them roll out of our regionaL airports and later having flown on Nationwide BAC 111-500's I always thought her roll was aggressively quicker than what was typical. It would take but a minugte to find the details necesary but when you believe something from an early age you're hesitant to prove otherwise
How do you pronounce it, one-eleven? Is the BAC 111 the same plane? Are they pronounced the same way?
Written as BAC One-Eleven, and pronounced that way.
Thanks.
Thebestnoise
Better than the DC-9 alot more spacious cabin layout,better appointed as well.
Can anyone tell me what type of engines the BAC 1-11 used
leo alzate The 1-11 518FG series used by BWA had Rolls-Royce Spey 512-14DW engines.
I’ve flown on one before. Yup, she’s a screamer
There’s a reason they used to call them the pocket rocket.....just can’t think why though....!😁
Did anyone notice that they started both the engines at the same time?
Earlier 111s had shorter engines.
Pacific Express flew 111s in California from 1982 to 1984
the aft end of the engine was added as a so called hush retrofit
Think that's noisy?? Try the 1-11 without hushkits!
hello Robin Pinnock, I'm admin of the modelkitindo channel, I ask permission to hanging this video on my channel as a teaser, and I will enclose your channel name on the video and link in description ... thank you
Yes , you may use this video. Thank you for asking permission first.
@@robinpinnock2678 Thank you very much
When jet planes were planes!!! Noise and smoking engines none of this whisper jet stuff of today!!!!
Aren't those engines the same as fitted in the Vulcan?
That would be interesting!... No, they are R-R Olympus.
@@robinpinnock2678 Of course! What a silly prat I am!
I will have to edit my videos of Southend's Vulcan making some taxi runs for comparison!
@@robinpinnock2678 Hee Hee Hee!
Robin Pinnock
Nothing to do with Rolls Royce as it was a post war Bristol aero engine design. R-R just bought out Bristol Siddeley and inherited it.
Noisy buggers they were, competing with France's Caravelle.
The BAC 1-11 was a bit noisy.
It was a lot noisy!
@@robinpinnock2678 But no longer in service as far as I know.
@@robinpinnock2678 Better buy a A319 or an A220.
Atlantic Gulf used to fly -400s in and out of my hometown airport back in 1985-86. They'd fly over my house as they'd bank right to head south. You could still hear the Spey rumble 10 minutes after it had flown over. Lovely rocket machine.
I used to watch 1-11s taking off at Manchester, but I don't remember all the smoke.
I'm sure I flew with British World Airlines on a BAC 1-11 on one of the trooper flights from Bruggen to Stanstead mid nineties.
It was one of their regular charter flights.
@@robinpinnock2678 I used those flights a few times, even on a short hop you still got a nice little meal on board!