I mean, I don't know many atheists that are looking to teach religion. Maybe just me, but few people without some adherence of faith tend to avoid practices (4-8 years of study, etc..) on the simple deluge of curiosity. I mean, if I'm learning about religion, the last professor I'll go to is an atheist. What are your qualifications? 8 years of schooling. Great. What are your beliefs? Religion is mindless garbage and little more than sedation to hyperactive masses unable to assume responsibility for the direction of their lives? OKAY. I'm going to go now. No, thank so much for your time 😶🌫️
Well, it's hard to be articulate when you don't really know what to say, or when you know what you want to say has a high chance of being met with pushback. I also have a strong feeling that he doesn't know the details of the curriculum because he stopped reading as soon as he saw the word LGBT, making it hard to answer those questions. And obviously he doesn't want to admit he didn't read the details, if that is the case. I think he's just trying to censor himself to come across as a reasonable person but hasn't prepared this phone call in his head.
Very interesting that a teacher has “personal issues” supposedly teaching LGQBT, but then not being able to articulate the issues at every turn. This person should not be teaching kids if his personal opinions/ feelings are not compatible with reality.
I recently retired after 36 years of teaching. I cannot recall ever encountering any teacher who would find engaging in a discussion to explain their thinking so difficult, it's exactly what being a teacher is all about. The caller did not appear to be prepared to identify what it was they felt that they could not teach... they appeared to be dishonest about something?
I strongly suspect he's not a real teacher, just heard that teachers are being forced to "teach LGBT" and wanted to try to make some kind of a stand against it.
Listening to his poor command of the language, and his inability to construct and defend a coherent argument, would you want him teaching your kids? I would be writing to the governors if I thought this was the standard of English teaching at my child's school
@@neilgodwin6531 I bet he knows what woman is & doesn't act like a weak coward when answering it. I guess you struggle to describe it & can't understand why most don't want the degeneracy of LGBTQ taught in our schools
"What are you being asked to teach?" "LGBT." "Yes, but what are you being asked to teach?" "We've all got to teach LGBT." "Yes, but what specifically..." (Continued for several minutes.) Christ on a bike. Sack him for being a dolt.
He's obviously not a real teacher. He took too long to say what subject he teaches, seemed to not know which year he was a form tutor for, and couldn't say exactly what 'LGBT stuff' he is asked to teach.
"My religion should come above your child's right to be treated as the equal of any other human being! Also, I feel persecuted for my beliefs!" But yeah, not a teacher - if he was, he'd have a better framed objection because he'd have had to actually think about it, read the curriculum elements and would have known what he was being asked to do that he found objectionable.
@@stephjsinclair No, just see how messed up the generations that have bought into this degeneracy. No opinion of dudes reading & stripping in front of kids? Something wrong with you to agree with it or even sitback & say nothing
I worked with the age group he's describing. I doubt if he's spent a day in the company of a whole class of Year Nines. He simply wouldn't survive. The speed his mind seems to operate, the way he expresses his objections (or doesn't), the whole "you're asking me too many questions" .... nah, he's too slow, they'd eat him alive day one. Maybe, just maybe, he's been a teacher at a small, private, faith-based school, with small class numbers. IF he's a teacher at all.
LGBT what is it that you object to? caller "basically that it exists as it goes against my beliefs" hmm "I have no personal issues, but my issues are personal to me" is he a vegetarian cannibal?
The vast majority of right wing people sound like this once the anger towards whoever or whatever they've been told to hate that week dies down, because they have no real foundation for any of their "arguments"
Caught in a lie when asked to clarify. He obviously thought he could spout "LGBT" and "against my rights". He sounds of a similar ilk to that guy who spoke to James O'Brien saying he worked for council and was forced to take Diversity classes but wouldn't say which...
I work in the council and I had to take a diversity class...it was basically just a 20 minute meeting where we were told not to use slurs...that was it. Apparently some people are too immature to handle this gigantic responsibility.
Teachers can be bigots too. One of my teachers was a raging transphobe who refused to acknowledge a friend of mine's gender/name and repeatedly implied that he needed curing of his 'sickness'.
I remember teachers like that. They got their pay packet, we got whipped, carry on as normal and hope nobody notices you’re really just a gorilla in a suit.
@@reefnreefer I diagree with that assertion for there are Christians that do adhere to the teachings of Christ as opposed to various interpretations of the old testament that is being weaponsied to use against the LGBT community
@@psycrow6699 The problem with any teaching on morality is that morality just like truth is a perspective. That is there is no universal morality that is not instigated by the law of the land one exists in
A) He’s at least 90 B) He isn’t a teacher C) if by some odd reason he is, his mental facility have left him so it’s time to retire D) What does he think he has to teach? Bumming techniques?
@@terrysmith5168 How is Luna's post offensive? 1) if he was a teacher, the caller must be retired for a long time and needs help understanding the present curriculum. 2) The caller does not understand the curriculum, English or Literature, how schools and lessons operate, etc 3) his thinking was confused 4) could not articulate what he had to teach regarding LGBT.
The more worrying thing to me is that this teacher seems to be thick,and cannot even awnser a basic question.Would not want him teaching my child english.Does not seem to know how old his children are
I'm sure there are other teachers that follow a certain religion and are allowed leeways when it comes to practicing that religion. I personally think the teaching of LGBT has no more a place in the curriculum then the teaching of heterosexuality. Which as far as I know isn't taught.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068the reason it's taught is because of the prejudice those people have historically and currently receive based on thase characteristics. So it's teaching children to be respectful of differences. Hetrosexuality isn't something that get's prejudiced against by society, no one gets bullied or killed for being straight. So there's not really any need to teach people to be respectful of people being straight, when there's no issue of the contrary in society. And it's something kids grow up with more and see more, so attention doesn't need to be brought to those sort of relationships in the same that LGBT does.
This teacher couldn't explain what specifically he is being asked to do...which likely means that they haven't asked him to do anything specific. He probably made this whole experience up, because someone who had been asked to do something specific that they object to would likely not have any difficulty explaining their situation clearly.
@@django3422 That wasn't the "general consensus" because there was no support for the teacher that went in hiding because the cowardly left saw its special groups in conflict.
He's in the wrong job! If he can't teach the cariculum get out of the profession. I couldn't care less about his religion. I wouldn't want this man teaching my children.
He objects to teaching LGBT concepts, not teaching them specifically. It is similar to how religious doctors can opt out of performing abortions. It is difficult because we cannot reach a stage where religous people are essentially barred from public life. They should not be able to discrimiate against LGBT but I see no reason to force them to participate with spreading values they consider sinful. We need to create a society where people can believe vastly different things yet still get along.
@serenth8310 if spreading values they consider sinful is part of the job requirement and they are unwilling to do it then unfortunately they aren't able to do the job and need to be removed. And with religion where do you draw the line with what is sinful to teach? Divorce, contraception, wearing clothes made of more than one material?
I am so glad that the radio guy, having got no-where trying to find out what this teacher thought he was required to teach about LGBT issues, was straight and final in his response. If you wish to discriminate against LGBT people based on your 'faith', don't expect to keep your job or have any legal recourse!
" I don't want to teach these subjects as I don't agree with it and it makes me uncomfortable "... Mean while , history teachers be like " so this afternoon kids we are learning about slavery, followed by German history from 1939 to 1945".
If Carl is a teacher, which I doubt as he sounds like an old man, he is unfit to be a teacher as his "religious beliefs" contradict the expectation to treat all students equally and without prejudice.
@@zainzoala1083 That's not how it works, you take the job you have to leave your personal opinions at the door, its not your place to decide what should and should not be taught.
@@zainzoala1083 also, what did I say that was disrespectful? It IS an unproven, supernatural faith. It DOES get in the way of children’s education. Therefore he IS NOT fit for purpose. Where’s the disrespect in my original comment?
"This is obviously something that's given you a great deal of grief and you've thought about it a lot". It turns out he hasn't thought about it at all because he can't say what he objects to teaching.
"Don't ask me so many questions!" I wonder whether he's so closed to questions from his students in his English classes? The caller appears to be a terrible teacher, in a number of ways.
No, you can't refuse to recognise equality at work on religious grounds. This isn't America, where you have the right to abuse people on religious grounds.
No, because he can't answer basic questions about curriculum content, what he actually opposes or what it is he is supposed to be teaching that is so wrong. His terminology is all wrong for a teacher and he is clearly unfamiliar with the subject areas in which this type of content would be taught. (As a teacher myself)@@tonygange7636
@@tonygange7636Teachers have access to the curriculum and are required to teach it, so they'd be able to say what it says about "LGBT". This guy couldn't. He just said things like "I'm being made to teach LGBT" and couldn't elaborate further.
@@tonygange7636 So while you're wrong, at least you gave an explanation. He couldn't, and he's supposedly an English teacher with access to the curriculum.
@@Valchrist1313 This is the second time you have commented it. For anyone reading - I looked it up. 0 results. Not even a hint. This is either a liar, a paid liar, or a bot.
@@tonygange7636cross dressing is no different from wearing a costume. And most of the books people have been complaining about at public schools concerning lgbt have been taken out of context. And a lot of these books aren’t even seen in middle school or elementary. They are found in high school for ages 14 and up. Which I would say is an appropriate time for you learn about the outside world on your own terms….
Clearly hadn't read the curriculum if he doesn't even know what specific thing he's meant to be teaching...who knows how bad he is in other capacities?
the fact that he is incapable a of answering basic questions regarding his profession make me think this dude is not a teacher but some dude pretending
These people are always incapable of clarifying their positions on homosexuality. I see this as proving that their prejudices are not logical, but are purely emotional, with no basis in fact.
It’s quite common on LBC, they call in all outraged about something they read in the gutter press but can never explain exactly why they’re angry. It would save a lot if time if they said, “Because the Daily Mail told me to be!”
Had a mormon friend who didn't believe in illegal downloads. I told her they do exists and I could show her if she liked. This guy sounds like he's in the same mindset.
Don't worry, he isn't really a teacher. It took him a few attempts to come up with what year he 'teaches' and he can't even name one thing he's being forced to 'teach' 😂 he's just a liar.
"But ball earth is *just* a theory! How can you know? We should still be fair to the flat earthers and weight all positions fair and equal!" Replace flat earth with faith, and you got 70% of education "arguments"
I wish this caller was clearer or truly thought about the crux of his problem. He seemed he was worried he would be asked to teach about LGBT issues, but as an English teacher, it seems to me unlikely he would be. Instead of talking with his superiors/supervisors/principal about his concerns, he essentially rants about his religion barring from teaching, when he may not even be required to do so. As such, he appears to be homophobic, though it may be religious, but then his problem belies homophobia because if fundamentally religious, his religion is homophobic.
Fantastic treatment of this question! I have to agree with others that I'm surprised how inarticulate this "English teacher" is. What in the world does it mean that a teacher in public schools would be asked to "teach LGBT"? Such silliness.
He doesn't want to teach lgbtqp but he can't even speak to what it is, that's crazy. So he's an English teacher who doesn't even know what he's teaching.
An English teacher who can't understand a simple question, or articulate his position or problem. Honestly, forget the LGBT issue, he probably should be dismissed for incompetence.
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Dude doesn't even know what he doesn't like. He hasn't thought about this question, not really.
If he's a teacher, I'm a cat.
Woof woof!
Yeah if he's a teacher those kids are unfortunate
Lucky you. But I see your point.
He's fantasizing.
If you want to be a cat you can be a cat, its a free country and doesn't effect anyone else around you. 😉
“My atheism won’t let me teach Christians about religion cos it’s against my beliefs” imagine the backlash 🤦🏻♂️
Backlash from whom?
@@MsTee349haha take a guessn
I know I'm getting tired of my fellow "Christians" filled with so much hate
I mean, I don't know many atheists that are looking to teach religion.
Maybe just me, but few people without some adherence of faith tend to avoid practices (4-8 years of study, etc..) on the simple deluge of curiosity.
I mean, if I'm learning about religion, the last professor I'll go to is an atheist.
What are your qualifications? 8 years of schooling. Great.
What are your beliefs? Religion is mindless garbage and little more than sedation to hyperactive masses unable to assume responsibility for the direction of their lives?
OKAY. I'm going to go now. No, thank so much for your time 😶🌫️
@@MsTee349 From Christians!
Caller: I can't tell you what I'm being asked to teach because I'm making this up as I go along.
Imagine being in his class, would take the whole lesson to get 1 question asked and answered
The bell for next period would ring before the register's taken.
😂😂😂
@@yootaobe5536
A teacher like that would take 10 years to teach 1 GCSE 😂
I had a few teachers like this, we’d just ask them about their kids or whatever their interests happened to be and it’d last the whole lesson😂
I've had easier wisdom tooth extractions, and my teeth have extra roots which curve outwards instead of inwards
What an unbelievably inarticulate English teacher.
Yeah, he's definitely doing more disservice than he knows 😅 those poor kids!
Is he even English?
"Just do the opposite of what I do"
Well, it's hard to be articulate when you don't really know what to say, or when you know what you want to say has a high chance of being met with pushback. I also have a strong feeling that he doesn't know the details of the curriculum because he stopped reading as soon as he saw the word LGBT, making it hard to answer those questions. And obviously he doesn't want to admit he didn't read the details, if that is the case. I think he's just trying to censor himself to come across as a reasonable person but hasn't prepared this phone call in his head.
@@thenecrosanct4906 He's the type of teacher that kids run circles around because they're mentally quicker then him
Difficult to believe someone this ineloquent could be a teacher in a modern school.
And an English teacher no less 🙄
Very interesting that a teacher has “personal issues” supposedly teaching LGQBT, but then not being able to articulate the issues at every turn. This person should not be teaching kids if his personal opinions/ feelings are not compatible with reality.
@@floschroeter or if he can't explain the most basic of things in his head.
I agree with you - he is just a troll, at least i hope so!
I recently retired after 36 years of teaching. I cannot recall ever encountering any teacher who would find engaging in a discussion to explain their thinking so difficult, it's exactly what being a teacher is all about. The caller did not appear to be prepared to identify what it was they felt that they could not teach... they appeared to be dishonest about something?
I strongly suspect he's not a real teacher, just heard that teachers are being forced to "teach LGBT" and wanted to try to make some kind of a stand against it.
Listening to his poor command of the language, and his inability to construct and defend a coherent argument, would you want him teaching your kids?
I would be writing to the governors if I thought this was the standard of English teaching at my child's school
And an English teacher? I think not. @@neilgodwin6531
@@neilgodwin6531
I bet he knows what woman is & doesn't act like a weak coward when answering it.
I guess you struggle to describe it & can't understand why most don't want the degeneracy of LGBTQ taught in our schools
One of them old dope heads
@@neilgodwin6531I’m glad someone else noticed that.
"What are you being asked to teach?"
"LGBT."
"Yes, but what are you being asked to teach?"
"We've all got to teach LGBT."
"Yes, but what specifically..."
(Continued for several minutes.)
Christ on a bike. Sack him for being a dolt.
Kids in his class are probably smarter
He's got no class. He's not a teacher.
Daniel Barnett gets credit for being very, very patient with this supposed "teacher".
That he could not articulate specifically WHAT he objects to, gives you a clue how nonsensical and pathetic his complaint actually is.
And he is an English Teacher 🤦♂️
He's obviously not a real teacher. He took too long to say what subject he teaches, seemed to not know which year he was a form tutor for, and couldn't say exactly what 'LGBT stuff' he is asked to teach.
@@BrianBadondebowlno, he's lying
@@BrianBadondebowl
Not one of those questions required personal information, but as long as you've got the "wokerati" bogeyman as a cop-out...
@@BrianBadondebowlhow do Braverman, haven't you got a job to be doing?
@BrianBadondebowel
Do you not have any original thoughts of your own?
'Cancelled by the wokerati'... You are just talking gibberish son.
@BrianBadondebowl is this why you're struggling to grasp basic common sense?
"My religion should come above your child's right to be treated as the equal of any other human being! Also, I feel persecuted for my beliefs!"
But yeah, not a teacher - if he was, he'd have a better framed objection because he'd have had to actually think about it, read the curriculum elements and would have known what he was being asked to do that he found objectionable.
He's not a teacher. I'm recently retired from the profession and teachers can explain things. He clearly can't. "Too many questions"?
Because he might get fired for not bowing down to the LGBTQ cult.
You're not a teach but a regurgitate "the curriculum".
A absolute coward in short.
How long do you think he'd last with a class of Year Nines?
You must have been part of some pretty rarified teaching circles.
@@davidmorgan6896the bar isn't as high as the professionals would like to think
He’s not a teacher. Can’t even say what he’s been asked to teach.
I’ve never heard a teacher say “that’s too many questions”
He barely speaks English
Tbh, it wholy sounds like he saw "LGBT" in a headline and didn't bother checking what the actual lesson was.
@@BrianBadondebowlhomophobia will never be tolerated, deal with it.
Agreed, he was clearly lying and frankly sounds well past retirement age.
The fact that he cannot even enunciate what he objects to makes me question his credentials
But a teacher that considers transvestites as "real women" doesn't make you question their credentials, even your own standards?
@@stephjsinclair
No, just see how messed up the generations that have bought into this degeneracy.
No opinion of dudes reading & stripping in front of kids?
Something wrong with you to agree with it or even sitback & say nothing
@tonygange7636 why are you so bent out of shape over some people who wear different clothes to you?.
@@tonygange7636transvestites aren’t women. No one ever said they were.
@@Eggplant_Emoji
Yes they do, they used call themselves transvestites but not anymore , now they're considered "women".
Why on earth would you ring a lawyer if you can't explain what the problem is?
I worked with the age group he's describing. I doubt if he's spent a day in the company of a whole class of Year Nines. He simply wouldn't survive. The speed his mind seems to operate, the way he expresses his objections (or doesn't), the whole "you're asking me too many questions" .... nah, he's too slow, they'd eat him alive day one. Maybe, just maybe, he's been a teacher at a small, private, faith-based school, with small class numbers. IF he's a teacher at all.
LGBT what is it that you object to? caller "basically that it exists as it goes against my beliefs"
hmm "I have no personal issues, but my issues are personal to me" is he a vegetarian cannibal?
😂😂😂
As an English teacher he'll teach about the murders, rapes, theft, extortion, lying in Shakespeare.
And is presumably quite happy with all of that in the Bible.
Clearly none of those are against his beliefs 🙄
He's a teacher? Wow. He could barely put a sentence together 😮
He's an English teacher 😂
Does the caller even know what he's talking about? He sounds confused.
The vast majority of right wing people sound like this once the anger towards whoever or whatever they've been told to hate that week dies down, because they have no real foundation for any of their "arguments"
Caught in a lie when asked to clarify. He obviously thought he could spout "LGBT" and "against my rights".
He sounds of a similar ilk to that guy who spoke to James O'Brien saying he worked for council and was forced to take Diversity classes but wouldn't say which...
@@philwill0123 Yep, I remember that guy, too. He didn't appear to know what his complaint was about and O'Brien took him to pieces.
It's Joe Biden
I work in the council and I had to take a diversity class...it was basically just a 20 minute meeting where we were told not to use slurs...that was it. Apparently some people are too immature to handle this gigantic responsibility.
Something tells me the caller is not actually a teacher..
That guy did not sound like a teacher.
Caller is some religious simpleton who really thinks he’s faking everyone out by impersonating a teacher.
Liberalism and degeneracy is destroying the West not religion.
...to be fair there's alot of impersonating going on here to exaggerate personal views....
He sounds 90 years old. If he is a teacher that says a lot about the English education system.
Teachers can be bigots too. One of my teachers was a raging transphobe who refused to acknowledge a friend of mine's gender/name and repeatedly implied that he needed curing of his 'sickness'.
I remember teachers like that. They got their pay packet, we got whipped, carry on as normal and hope nobody notices you’re really just a gorilla in a suit.
Its a shame his religion dosent encourage him to teach kindness, empathy, understanding, acceptance, tolerance, humanity and love.
No religion does😂
What is the punishment for apostasy
@@reefnreefer I diagree with that assertion for there are Christians that do adhere to the teachings of Christ as opposed to various interpretations of the old testament that is being weaponsied to use against the LGBT community
I’m sure it does, but his religion probably also teaches him about morality. At some point someone has to say “no. This is wrong.”
@@psycrow6699 The problem with any teaching on morality is that morality just like truth is a perspective. That is there is no universal morality that is not instigated by the law of the land one exists in
What an incoherent educator...he shouldn't be paid to teach anything.
"I'm an English teacher" says a man who can't string a sentence together 😂😂
"What are they asking you to teach?"
"Ugh! Thats too many questions! I cant...!" 😂😂😂
A) He’s at least 90 B) He isn’t a teacher C) if by some odd reason he is, his mental facility have left him so it’s time to retire D) What does he think he has to teach? Bumming techniques?
Your post is ironically very offensive
@@terrysmith5168 Where’s the irony?
...you need help.....😊
@@chatham43so do you need help on how to be a better troll.
@@terrysmith5168 How is Luna's post offensive?
1) if he was a teacher, the caller must be retired for a long time and needs help understanding the present curriculum.
2) The caller does not understand the curriculum, English or Literature, how schools and lessons operate, etc
3) his thinking was confused
4) could not articulate what he had to teach regarding LGBT.
Hitchens: "Religion poisons everything."
Nuff said.
Has it poisoned you?
@@noelpucarua2843 It has poisoned the entire society in which we live. So yes. Nice try though.
@@puckerings How has it poisoned you?
@@noelpucarua2843I've had christians try to beat the love of Christ into me because I'm an atheist. There's no hate like Christian love.
@@Justthe_facts Christians don't have a monopoly on that kind of love.
The more worrying thing to me is that this teacher seems to be thick,and cannot even awnser a basic question.Would not want him teaching my child english.Does not seem to know how old his children are
And then he wants to add to that with random bigotry that he can't articulate. School system needs an overhaul
Don’t be a teacher then . If it’s against your religion
Caller: But how can I pretend to be the main character who looks down upon people to feel superior for my mediocre life? Waaaaaa!
I'm sure there are other teachers that follow a certain religion and are allowed leeways when it comes to practicing that religion.
I personally think the teaching of LGBT has no more a place in the curriculum then the teaching of heterosexuality. Which as far as I know isn't taught.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068the reason it's taught is because of the prejudice those people have historically and currently receive based on thase characteristics. So it's teaching children to be respectful of differences. Hetrosexuality isn't something that get's prejudiced against by society, no one gets bullied or killed for being straight. So there's not really any need to teach people to be respectful of people being straight, when there's no issue of the contrary in society. And it's something kids grow up with more and see more, so attention doesn't need to be brought to those sort of relationships in the same that LGBT does.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Heterosexuality is taught by way of biology
@@Coelacanth1
Absolutely, but it isn't taught as part of the curriculum.
Don't forget some people think homosexualite is biological.
This teacher couldn't explain what specifically he is being asked to do...which likely means that they haven't asked him to do anything specific. He probably made this whole experience up, because someone who had been asked to do something specific that they object to would likely not have any difficulty explaining their situation clearly.
Because deep down he knows it’s all just based on hatred.
@@PastaSauce. remember the muslim community protesting about this being taught to they're kids
@@jackcogi9586I remember the general consensus being that they needed to grow up and back off. And they did back off.
Did you have a point?
@@django3422
That wasn't the "general consensus" because there was no support for the teacher that went in hiding because the cowardly left saw its special groups in conflict.
@@Valchrist1313 Look it up where? I can't find any articles referencing this supposed curriculum.
“Can I legally be a bigot?” is more the question they need to ask, but don’t have the spine to do so.
Cowards, the entire lot of them.
Agreed 100%
Are you saying Islamic beliefs are bigoted?
every religious belief is bigoted by definition.
@@yingtonmany religious beliefs are highly bigoted. That’s not to say all people of faith are bigoted..but some are.
@@yingtonjust the right wing ones, same as with right wing Christianity. Maybe you can figure out the common thread here.
He's in the wrong job! If he can't teach the cariculum get out of the profession. I couldn't care less about his religion.
I wouldn't want this man teaching my children.
Thankfully, you can't teach bigotry if you can't even string a coherent sentence together.
Those are literally the scholars of that field. It's an ignorance based field of study.
Don't be so sure. The base level of communicating hate is very low.
@@marcning918 what perfect description
An English teacher who couldn’t articulate what he was objecting to. Unbelievable.
This guy’s not a teacher. “Teach LGBT?” That’s not a thing.
Same with the doctors - you don't want to treat LGBT people or minorities, choose another profession
He objects to teaching LGBT concepts, not teaching them specifically. It is similar to how religious doctors can opt out of performing abortions. It is difficult because we cannot reach a stage where religous people are essentially barred from public life. They should not be able to discrimiate against LGBT but I see no reason to force them to participate with spreading values they consider sinful. We need to create a society where people can believe vastly different things yet still get along.
@@serenth8310sure but then they shouldnt be in positions like teacher or doctor. Period.
Some white patients used to ask for white doctors and nurses to treat them.
@@colincampbell4261 and thats wrong
@serenth8310 if spreading values they consider sinful is part of the job requirement and they are unwilling to do it then unfortunately they aren't able to do the job and need to be removed.
And with religion where do you draw the line with what is sinful to teach?
Divorce, contraception, wearing clothes made of more than one material?
He's not thought about this at all. He's been told what to think or found religion in order to try and hide his obvious bigotry.
Pretty sure all of his students would benefit from a teacher able to clearly articulate information.
I am so glad that the radio guy, having got no-where trying to find out what this teacher thought he was required to teach about LGBT issues, was straight and final in his response.
If you wish to discriminate against LGBT people based on your 'faith', don't expect to keep your job or have any legal recourse!
For a teacher of English, he seems to have a poor vocabulary and is unable to string a coherent sentence together.
Or even properly form an argument. He was asked so many times "what are you teaching" "what do you disagree with" and not once, did he answer.
" I don't want to teach these subjects as I don't agree with it and it makes me uncomfortable "...
Mean while , history teachers be like " so this afternoon kids we are learning about slavery, followed by German history from 1939 to 1945".
1933-45
@@kikidevine694Indeed, the 1933-1938 bit is what explains how 1939-1945 could even happen.
If Carl is a teacher, which I doubt as he sounds like an old man, he is unfit to be a teacher as his "religious beliefs" contradict the expectation to treat all students equally and without prejudice.
Not really, you can still treat people equally without prejudice even with your own beliefs.
@@CEO786 true. However, a lot of older people don't. They hold their faith as a shield to hurl hate behind.
If his supernatural, unproven faith gets in the way of actual children’s education, then he needs to be fired immediately. Not fit for purpose.
😂😂😂 Hello Mr Extreme atheist. Like it or hate it. Respect for people religious beliefs is something you look to have forgotten it.
@@zainzoala1083 That's not how it works, you take the job you have to leave your personal opinions at the door, its not your place to decide what should and should not be taught.
@@zainzoala1083Respect for someone’s faith is lost when that faith actively discriminates against LGBT people
@@zainzoala1083 also, what did I say that was disrespectful? It IS an unproven, supernatural faith. It DOES get in the way of children’s education. Therefore he IS NOT fit for purpose.
Where’s the disrespect in my original comment?
Why do primary schools need to educate kids about this nonsense. Let children play instead of trying to mould them into something else.
"This is obviously something that's given you a great deal of grief and you've thought about it a lot". It turns out he hasn't thought about it at all because he can't say what he objects to teaching.
"Don't ask me so many questions!" I wonder whether he's so closed to questions from his students in his English classes? The caller appears to be a terrible teacher, in a number of ways.
That was kinda the signal that he's not an active teacher...that or wouldn't take class questions? Like...buddy, that's your job?
The answer is simple: If your faith disagrees with your job, you either reconcile this, or you quit your job.
No, you can't refuse to recognise equality at work on religious grounds.
This isn't America, where you have the right to abuse people on religious grounds.
Hey, so I know it's a little late, and I'm not an any way authorized to say this, but take us back? Please? Save us?
-an American
I'd bet my house that this guy isn't really a teacher.
Why?
Teachers can't define what a women is now, why this guy?
No, because he can't answer basic questions about curriculum content, what he actually opposes or what it is he is supposed to be teaching that is so wrong. His terminology is all wrong for a teacher and he is clearly unfamiliar with the subject areas in which this type of content would be taught. (As a teacher myself)@@tonygange7636
@@tonygange7636Teachers have access to the curriculum and are required to teach it, so they'd be able to say what it says about "LGBT". This guy couldn't. He just said things like "I'm being made to teach LGBT" and couldn't elaborate further.
@@NataliePine
Yes, he being encouraged to push/teach propaganda & normalising mental health.
The evidence is pretty clear.
@@tonygange7636 So while you're wrong, at least you gave an explanation. He couldn't, and he's supposedly an English teacher with access to the curriculum.
He is not a teacher .... and if he really is, then I hope he isnt teaching my kids!!
“You’re asking me too many questions”
Mate, _YOU_ called in. What did you expect?
I suspect that this teacher had actually retired a very long time ago
Would not be surprised
Thought the same
...nice work Detective...😊
If he was ever a teacher at all.
NO WAY that guy is a teacher..........he couldn't even formulate a question coherently!
"Teacher" asks lawyer if he can refuse to 'teach LGBT' on religious grounds - Fixed that for you.
What's taught in schools these days regarding sexuality ? In my day we got a pretty embarrassing run down on the basics at 13 and that was it
How to give blowies, apparently
@@rww805yeah apparently. Never any facts
@@reefnreefer
There's books for children & cross dresses at their school.
If you're going to support degeneracy atleast stand by it & not be a coward
@@Valchrist1313 This is the second time you have commented it.
For anyone reading - I looked it up. 0 results. Not even a hint.
This is either a liar, a paid liar, or a bot.
@@tonygange7636cross dressing is no different from wearing a costume. And most of the books people have been complaining about at public schools concerning lgbt have been taken out of context. And a lot of these books aren’t even seen in middle school or elementary.
They are found in high school for ages 14 and up. Which I would say is an appropriate time for you learn about the outside world on your own terms….
An English teacher who can barely string a sentence together
that's how it is nowadays UK 2024 no wonder we are being over taken by PPP GDP by the likes of Slovenia and Lithuania..!
He is definitely not a teacher let alone an English teacher since he can’t speak the language.
Who would want someone who cant even articulate what they mean teaching English?
Clearly hadn't read the curriculum if he doesn't even know what specific thing he's meant to be teaching...who knows how bad he is in other capacities?
Couldn't even answer, or seemingly understand the questions he was asked. Slightly concerning he's an educator.
Imagine if a teacher says I refuse to teach that women can vote based on my religious beliefs.
Imagine? Here, I'm murica, that our reality
Remember everyone, the questions he didn’t want to answer, you can safely assume his real answer was the most egregious hatred you can imagine
Pay attention to what they don't answer. It tells you more.
the fact that he is incapable a of answering basic questions regarding his profession make me think this dude is not a teacher but some dude pretending
This guy might like to retire, not because he doesn’t want to teach LGBT issues, he can’t string a sentence together!
These people are always incapable of clarifying their positions on homosexuality. I see this as proving that their prejudices are not logical, but are purely emotional, with no basis in fact.
They're busy trying to figure out how to be a bigot without sounding like one.
This has to be a plant, why would anyone call and then not want to talk?
It’s quite common on LBC, they call in all outraged about something they read in the gutter press but can never explain exactly why they’re angry. It would save a lot if time if they said, “Because the Daily Mail told me to be!”
The teacher just needs to move to the States and live in Florida. Problem solved!
"Please don't make the kids feel like you hate them for something they can't change about who they are."
*Calls radio show to find legal loophole.
He's not very articulate for an English teacher, is he?
Had a mormon friend who didn't believe in illegal downloads. I told her they do exists and I could show her if she liked. This guy sounds like he's in the same mindset.
Is it on the curriculum? Are you a teacher? Then you teach it. This like a maths teacher refusing to teach multiplication.
"Now, I'm fine with multiplication, but *division*? That's just too far!"
If he's a teacher I'll eat my head.
Teaching facts is not something a public school teacher should object to.
He shouldn’t be teaching on the grounds of not being able to hold a simple coherent conversation.
What a waste of skin!
As an American, I LOVE LBC! Thank you to the hosts for their patience and fabulous communication. Brilliant people (the hosts, not the callers.)
Do you have a similar station there mate ?
@@johnchrysostomou9417 Not at all. Americans don’t have the attention span for long calls.
@@briananderson8428 😂
The irony of an English teacher who is so inarticulate he cannot even convey a basic subject construct.
They call themselves a teacher but can’t even articulate their point! Best of luck to the next generation
Don't worry, he isn't really a teacher. It took him a few attempts to come up with what year he 'teaches' and he can't even name one thing he's being forced to 'teach' 😂 he's just a liar.
If you don't want to teach scientifically accepted facts just because you "feel" they're wrong, you shouldn't be a teacher.
"But ball earth is *just* a theory! How can you know? We should still be fair to the flat earthers and weight all positions fair and equal!"
Replace flat earth with faith, and you got 70% of education "arguments"
I’m an atheist but I could teach religion as an academic subject without agreeing with it or believing it 🤨
This teacher should have been fired immediately. He is ignorant beyond belief.
He should not be a teacher. He is hopelessly lost and confused.
A bit like children educated under Liberalism then. Chopping bits off their own bodies.
I wish this caller was clearer or truly thought about the crux of his problem.
He seemed he was worried he would be asked to teach about LGBT issues, but as an English teacher, it seems to me unlikely he would be. Instead of talking with his superiors/supervisors/principal about his concerns, he essentially rants about his religion barring from teaching, when he may not even be required to do so. As such, he appears to be homophobic, though it may be religious, but then his problem belies homophobia because if fundamentally religious, his religion is homophobic.
The caller is a grandfather and is ticked off that his grandchildren are smarter and better people than him.
Fantastic treatment of this question! I have to agree with others that I'm surprised how inarticulate this "English teacher" is. What in the world does it mean that a teacher in public schools would be asked to "teach LGBT"? Such silliness.
So clearly not a teacher 😂
If you don't believe all people are equal - put yourself on a register and stay far far away from my kids.
The really scary thing is people like this are actually 'teaching' our kids.
The teacher is having a very difficult time not articulating his foolish hate.
Handled with class 👏🏻
would the same argument have been made if a muslim RE teacher had said he didn't want to teach it or would that be islamophobia?
@@jackcogi9586teach what? That's literally the point of the video
@@jackcogi9586 When does he state his religion?
@jackcogi9586 if he was a Muslim teacher I would still condemn him as a bigot.
@@jackcogi9586 babe, bigotry comes from all faiths. Are you in a Muslim country?
He’s not a teacher. That was a lie. Period.
There’s no place in education for people like this.
He doesn't want to teach lgbtqp but he can't even speak to what it is, that's crazy. So he's an English teacher who doesn't even know what he's teaching.
A teacher who can’t say what he’s teaching. Huh.
An English teacher who can't understand a simple question, or articulate his position or problem.
Honestly, forget the LGBT issue, he probably should be dismissed for incompetence.
Should be banned from teaching. Unfit to teach because his fantastical beliefs have made him a bigot with conflict of interest.
Carl is a pensioner that read some non-sense on Facebook and is now regurgitating a poorly thought out position.
Love that"LGBT" is equated to a subject as if its "anthropology" or "calculus"
That would be an amazing class tho. Positive, welcoming, kind...
This bloke should not be a teacher. Full stop.
I very much doubt he is, because he had to pause before even saying he was a teacher. He told a lie not expecting to be called out.