The Rise And Fall Of Bethesda Game Studios
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- My first video essay. I hope you all like it.
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Intro 0:00
Gridiron! and The Founding 0:41
Todd Howard 2:19
The Elder Scrolls: Arena and Daggerfall 3:41
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 6:05
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 7:25
Zenimax and the Fallout Acquisition 11:08
Fallout 3 12:00
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 13:03
Fallout 4 and More 16:36
Fallout 76 18:33
Starfield 22:03
Conclusion 24:23
Thank you to @PatrickCc for the thumbnail idea!
#bethesda #skyrim #fallout #theelderscrolls #starfield
PS: Starfield Sucks 
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Big respect for my fellow stormcloak
Skyrim belongs to the Nords.
@@GeneralRubicon I agree with this *plays as elf*
I never understood people who sided with the imperials.
@KrazzyKlown Kidding, right? Of course, you're not as a storm clock has no brain to comprehend how to make a joke as you are the joke.
Storm clocks result in a high elf victory. The imperial government is buying time and resources for the next war with the high elf empire.
Storm clocks would get anhillated by the high elvs as a country owner, and the imperial empire would erase them from existence anyways as they'd send so many troops leaving the storm clocks with thier d in thier hands making the whole rebellion pointless and only powering the enemy that being the elfs.
@hatshepsut295 Yeah, the only thing the civil war helps is the dirty elves.
The stormclocks and I say stormclocks as it would be only a matter of time before they lose to either faction as they literally can't beat either faction imperial or elfs.
Bethesda just happen to get into the same boat as many oldschool beloved developers like Bioware, Bungie, Blizzard, DICE just to name a few.
First banger after banger game releases, critical acclaim and immense creativity.
But after few years the company gets into hands of greedy corporate that wants to have bigger game with even bigger earnings.
The company keeps getting bigger and bigger, the original creative people that created all of these banger games leave, new, younger, unexperienced people get hired and we get Mass Effect Andromeda, Destiny 2 milking the living hell out of fans, Warcraft 3: Reforged/Diablo 4, Battlefield 2042 and finally Starfield.
It is the circle of game studios, it is inevitable fate.
True.
Don’t even dare to compare 2042 to all these trash it wasn’t even that bad just buggy
True, too bad also Bioware and Bethesda used to be my favorites but most of the real talent is gone, happened to Rocksteady too.
@@acev3521😂😂😂 it was garbage compared to bad company 2
They got me. Just re-downloaded Fallout 3
Fallout 3 is currently uninstalled on my PC. Also, 12 million copies sold does NOT equate to good quality. Bethesda killed Fallout with 76. The only way Fallout 4 is even good is by modding back in all the stuff they tried to remove. Give Fallout to INxile which is made of former Fallout devs.
Todd Howard doesn't exaggerate. He lies!
The soul of the studio has withered away, and they're more interested in selling products than experiences. As another viewer pointed out, this is a cycle that's affected numerous AAA studios that rose to prominence due to the quality of their games and the passion put into them, only for the people who made the studio great to either be forced out or leave of their own accord, to be replaced with bean-counters and neophytes with varying levels of experience and skill, but no cohesive vision. Despite loving some of their games, I'm not particularly broken up about it. It's unfortunate that Elder Scrolls 6 will likely be mediocre at best, but once you come to terms with what AAA gaming has become, you can put it do bed and go enjoy some indie titles or something. Great video, as always.
Thank you!
I'm usually not that bothered when these companies inevitably die. In this case, I kind of am.
@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 I agree.
If it had happened 5 years ago I'd probably be bummed out, but that was back when I had expectations from AAA companies. CDPR put an end to that.@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
"You've really pissed me off." Ooo, I'm trembling in my boots Sarah. Let me sin in peace its a GAME.
This was well made and I enjoyed the wholesome story you shared about your family. Keep up the good work!
Every Bethesda game post-Morrowind has had the same writing shortfalls:
Depthless, flat dialogue that makes characters seem like wooden caricatures of people instead of well-rounded, complex individuals with flaws, quirks, and goals (for reference, compare to Baldur's Gate 3, Fallout New Vegas, The Witcher 3, and Cyberpunk).
Shallow plots without any engaging themes or artfully compelling narratives. They come across like amateur improvisations of stories rather than labors of passion forged by an insightful, well-read writer who understands human tragedy and has something interesting to say about the human condition.
A general sense of cartoonish unseriousness, as if the only narrative goal were to entertain children.
A lack (especially in the Fallout games) of logical cohesion in world-building, i.e., nothing makes sense if you think about it. For example, Fallout 3 and 4's worlds don't seem to have coherent socioeconomic systems that explain why people live the way they do, or how they feed and take care of themselves. It seems like these points are glossed over by the team in favor of a freewheeling "The point is to have fun, you guys!" philosophy that disdains the application of logic when telling stories.
However, prior to Starfield, people still generally loved Bethesda games for their well-designed, immersive overworlds that were fun to explore and dungeon dive in. But Starfield threw out that feature in favor of randomly generated gruel peppered with copy-and-paste prefabbed dungeons that run on constant repeat, thereby leaving us with a product that highlights all of Bethesda's flaws without including any of their strengths (barring perhaps art design), which caused us to finally begin fixating on the crap writing and really taking it to task.
I have noticed the cartoonish stuff. Every bethesda story seems less dire than other games for some reason
Thank Emil Pagliarulo for his childish writing.
"A general sense of cartoonish unseriousness" too be fair they picked up that bad habit from fallout 2.
Starfield made question my previous enjoyed of Bethesda games. I went back to oblivion and happily i still enjoy it, despite its flaws.
How much generous good faith did Bethesda have? I didn't expect them to be amazing, nor did i compare them to other games. I compared them to previous bethesda instalments, not expecting innovation, just inproved interation.
Even with that generous leeway, bethesda has failed.
I'm never insulted by a game, even ones that try to be "offensive" or "edgy". Startfield offended me. The blatant expectation i waste time, money and memory space on this, and that modders do the work. F*ck this game, f*ck bethesda and f*ck Todd Howard.
Relax 😂
You mentioned Chris Weaver but did not mention how his career at Bethesda ended... He got betrayed by his partner now rotting in hell Robert Altman. He literally got Norman Osborn Fired moment.
I started this company. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IVE SACRIFICED??
Great video, man. Keep going strong.
Thanks, will do!
It's called "enshitification." The problem with megacorporate end-stage hypercapitalism is that the profit motive isn't just a motive, -- it's a mandate. That means "number go up, brrr." It is simply not possible for a shareholder driven corporation like Microsoft to manage creatives in a way that leads to mo/betta "creativity," or innovation. There isn't any money in that. If you doubt, look at the size (and financial success) of Bethesda's recent "failures." No, it is far easier, and far better to simply focus on a bitchen' marketing campaign for TES 6, push gamepass subs, and do it with less. Eventually, long after the wheels come off completely, the property can be salvaged, rebranded, re-imagined, and re-released to a wave of nostalgia and hope. Cha-ching. TES 6 will be the biggest, blandest, most generic, checkbox-ticking trip into the Elder Scrolls yet, it will take forever to develop, cost more money than God to make, and be crippled beyond belief by the same bugs that been in every BGS game since Oblivion. Downvote me now, but you will be cheering when Todd takes the stage in 2034 to announce its surprise release, and its ultra-premium collector's edition for only $1500.
I think Todd is gonna retire soon. He has accomplished a lot I’m sure he can be proud of his achievements along with the rest of the devs that work hard on these games.
@@Junebug879 can't tell if you're serious or not. they have too many cooks in the kitchen and they've devolved into the stale bureaucracy of marketing and advertisement
Remember when Bethesda sent a cease and desist letter to Mojang, over their use of the word scrolls, in their card battle game... called Scrolls? They always sucked.
If Tes 6 fails then it is over for bethesda
Unfortunately it seems that way
No it won’t MS has the bag behind them
unfortunately you can see what will happen with TES6 within the reaction of starfield. that game is objectively unfinished and low quality, low effort. yet their marketing teams pull rabbits out of hats to get people to buy, and then they flood fake reviews and buy good ratings from big names like steam. you know starfield was on steam's awards thing for exploration or whatever when it OBJECTIVELY sucked
@@acev3521 bioware had EA backing them and still shat out Andromeda. Money doesn't equal quality
@@jovee6155 That’s not what I’m saying the game is dog shit I’m just saying Bethesda won’t go away anytime soon.
Bethesda sucks because Skyrim release in like '12 and we still dont have TES6. They are leaving us too long to criticize. We should have TES 7 or 8 by now.
11/11/11
They turned into Valve with the Half Life 3 thing, lol.
Or the whole Duke Nukem forever thing.
And when they finally do release it, the company will likely die off since people will wonder why it took so long when the game won't even be that good.
Bethesda was great because of the mod community not because they were that great. Their games are not terrible just bland and shallow. But with mods they shine. Bethesda is so lazy they don’t even fix bugs and the community has to.
Whatever they release next, be it ES6 or the Next Fallout, customers likely won't purchase until about 3 months after release. And then, only if it has good ACTUAL gameplay (not biased reviews.) This is similar to what happened with Cyberpunk, and CDPR had to learn some very hard lessons about over-promising and under-delivering.
Xbox fanboys will still buy it and spam good reviews though
The best purchase strategy for Bethesda games is waiting until it's on sale, released as the GOTY version. By then the GOOD, Established Mods are out, and Mods have fixed the game to a playable state.
Lol you under estimate Todd's silver tongue and the amount of low iq bethesda fans there are. There are tons of people who believe skyrim was the best game ever made till date.
@@bulkvanderhuge9006you think that F4 is fixed? CAN be fixed? Not even talking about the last game.
@@DartNoobo I didn't say F4 was fixed by Bethesda.
I said to wait until a Bethesda game is in the GOTY stage, on sale, and MODS HAVE FIXED THE GAME TO A PLAYABLE STATE.
PLAYABLE being the operative word, because on initial release a lot of Bethesda games are unplayable "as-is"
war never changes and neither does modern Bethesda
True
Tes 6 will end Bethesda game studios. They will be disbanded after that. They are soulless and greedy, no heart or passion left.
All the good people forced out by todd " i swear she was conscious officer" howard
I would say I agree but I've been wrong beforw.
what is this crazy todd howard allegation, i’ve literally never heard of any such thing
I can’t wait for it to be a barren wasteland of nothing but leveled encounter zones, settlement build areas that is all ai generated interspersed with loading screens
(Hell given the lore they could set it in morrowind because it’s a volcanic wasteland now)
It’s baffling to see them completely fail to grasp why Skyrim was so popular for over a decade.
And still its most likely true such is the way of an assholes aka todd greed Howard.
Demon of the game ruining industry @@zaccanoy
+++
That lafavre bros video was hilarious
Glad you liked it lol.
@@GeneralRubicon Bethesda is like that batman quote, " you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" they have become the villain now
For me, I never played Morrowind or Oblivion at any point around their release. Instead my first games were Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy 10, Ratchet and Clank, and then after I got into PC gaming my first Elder Scrolls was Skyrim, then I read about Morrowind and Oblivion and I went and tried to play those since some folk on forums were ranting about how they were amazing. BTW I played Fallout 3 around the time of release on my PC as well, that was my first Fallout game.
Here is what I come away with.
I found Skyrim to be fun to play, yet technically speaking there was no real good story or character development or anything like that, the fun of it was merely just being somewhat open world and running around exploring areas and levelling up, but eventually you kind of get sick of that, but I must have clocked in at least 200 hours into it. Overall it's a success though.
Then when I tried to play Oblivion, I am going to be honest I played it for maybe 2 hours and then just totally gave up on playing it and uninstalled it. I found Oblivion to be horrible, and there was no incentive to level up as the enemies would level up with you, and the bloom in the game was also silly looking to me, I couldn't really find anything fun about it, seems to have no story, no character development, and unlike Skyrim it didn't even have fun gameplay or levelling up.
Then when I tried to play Morrowind I actually enjoyed it. Morrowind clearly must have been a damn good game when originally released, since even when I played it first like in 2014 or something I enjoyed it. I look past old graphics so it doesn't bother me, and I just focused on the gameplay mechanics and reading the story and such and I found it actually to be a good game.
What about Fallout 3? I enjoyed Fallout 3, because it was my first experience in a Fallout game. I then played a bit of Fallout New Vegas and thought it was okay, but I didn't really see what people were raving about so much, I think it was just some brand loyal people to Obsidian who loved New Vegas like it was a religion, so mostly I think they were thinking with feelings possibly, I couldn't really see how Fallout 3 was trash and how New Vegas was the second coming of god or anything, both seemed to be pretty comparable games to me. What I liked about Fallout 3 was the concept of coming out of the vault for the first time into a wasteland, that was such a cool concept.
I never played Fallout 1 or 2, but I watched a lot of videos about them on youtube and playthroughs and I think that Fallout 1 possibly has the peak story of any Fallout game.
As far as my era in PC gaming, I got into it heavily from 2009-2015 and then generally left it a bit, I am not a heavy gamer today. But during the era that I did do PC gaming, the top 10 games I enjoyed the most out of probably a total of 90 games that I played across those years were the following, Mass Effect series, Borderlands series, Two World 2, Dragon Age, Starcraft 2, Skyrim, Morrowind, Stalker, Half Life 2, Fallout 3.
And games I played on PC during that era that I thought were heavily overrated and sucked are the following, Tomb Raider games, Assassins Creed games, Bioshock, Crysis, Duke Nukem Forever, Oblivion, Portal, Battlefield, COD, Metro 2033, The Witcher, Halo, Dead Space etc.
The reason I kind of left PC gaming and gaming in general is because after a while I realised that most games I was playing were vapid and like something else I played (but just reskinned). Most of these typical action games are just a total waste of time and I forgot about them after playing them (which shows how vapid they were). That out of probably 90 games I played in that era, I only properly can remember any interesting story or gameplay elements in only 15 of them.
It's not that I don't play any games at all anymore, but I am not hyped for new releases or religiously playing new releases or in that circle jerk of corporate AAA game nonsense. The last game that I played in fact was a Japanese visual novel type game with a really memorable and nice story, and enjoyable gameplay and levelling mechanics like a strategy game combined with a good anime story almost.
I know there are new games like Starfield, Cyberpunk, Diablo 4, Stay Human, Horizon games etc, yet I honestly have zero motivation to play them, since I feel like with those games I have been there and done that already many times over, they almost never have anything new (it's just a reskinning and redecoration of a story I have already played through many times).
Yeah, I am not even waiting for Elder Scrolls 6, and I expect it to suck as well, considering Starfield. But I don't even care either, it will be funny to just see fan's reactions though if it does indeed suck.
Here, I can introduce them, "The once great game developer that completely fell off a cliff; Bethesda."
Bro this video is amazing I'm surprised you don't have more subs
I appreciate that!
Thanks for the comments so far
Btw, Came back and subbed dude.
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I always thought Bethesda was a joke, but I kept giving them chances. I had Terminator, and got to the famous game ending bug where you couldn't enter the final building. I gave them another chance with X-Car, which was an undriveable MESS, the car drove like it was on Ice, it was unplayable. Then my sister loaned me Daggerfall, I installed it, wandered around, found a Dungeon, and fell through the world while climbing down a ladder into the Dungeon, so I quit, and uninstalled it. I gave them another chance with Morrowind, and another chance with Oblivion and the stupid POTATO HEAD CHaracter Maker, and that's when they introduced the first PAID DLC ever, HORSE ARMOR. Then they decided to Release and re-release and re-re-release Skyrim, and monetize the hell out of it, and they just released some "Creation CLub" update just yesterday that once again BROKE ALL OF THE FREE MODS AGAIN. SO, the HELL WITH BETHESDA. I'm not going to buy any more of their crap.
What an awesome way to discover a gem like Oblivion!
The Outer Worlds was better than Starfield
No it wasn’t it was just bad in a different way
I like the Kingdom's End Remix from X4 in the end of the video
Go listen to Bits and Hits. Great Music!
When they make TE6 or fallout 5, they need to go back to the original level up system. Especially for fallout.
As cool as the level up system in 4 was, I really think they should go back to the way it was in new Vegas.
Funny thing is FNV wasn't Bethesda...
@@Nicolailund15 Obsidian has gone to sh*t too.
*Always did kiddo meme*
Lets be honest... we gave them the kids gloves and gave them every single possible act of good faith and ignored glaring issues that persisted through their entire games franchises simply because we wanted the story rich worlds they provided with nifty interactions ... thats all gone now and they are effectually a AAA indie developer..." im sorry to all of the indie developers who actually pour their heart and soul into their work i know thats a very unfair comparison" but its effectually true rip the heart soul and talent out of an indie game and you have current day bethesda.
I remember playing oblivion non stop for like 6 months straight with wake up play oblivion the. Go to school, then practice, then oblivion, then gym, then oblivion then sleep then repeat
Legendary game
I am shocked that when microsoft came in to possession of both bethesda and obsidian they didnt make them kiss like a five year old with a kitten and a puppy. We could have had New Vegas 2. Such a wasted opportunity.
No. Obsidian now is Obsidian in name only. Not even the same employees anymore.
People will rightly point out that Obsidian lost a lot of people from when New Vegas was made. They'll also fail to point out that a lot of them went to Inexile and Inexile is also owned by Microsoft. I'd be fine with a Fallout done in the style of the later Wasteland games.
Idk how you aint got more subs bro this is great
Thank you!
Starfeld stopped working for me after 4 days of wasted playtime, as it immediately crashes upon fast travel, forever stuck in space.
Bethesda support essential told me to f off with the old "turn off turn back on" bs, gave up on the game, months go by come back to the game thinking patches may have fixed my issue and sure enough still game breaking crashes making the gane literally unplayable.
Bro that's crazy. Bethesda support us notoriously terrible
@GeneralRubicon Fr, but at this point, I honestly don't care as I've lost all interest in the game.
The funny thing is I was so excited once I found out about this shipyard that sold parts I've never seen before. I was going to make an awesome ship build, then out of nowhere crashes.
Bethesda gave me the old bs, and then they told me to try deleting saves, so I deleted all my old saves and made new ones from the point i was at leaving me no where to fall back on before crashing.
The only thing I can think of is my gigantic bounty for every faction and lots of items on my person and infinte box.
What system are you playing on? I’m playing on my Xbox and it works fine for me. That sucks to hear though
I would argue that Bethesda has never been good. Morrowind is the only game I've played by them that could actually hold my attention.
They were good at one time
You’re not wrong.
Morrowind was great. Especially at the time. Oblivion was a bit of a step down but did have some really good aspects and unmistakable charm. It's been downhill ever since unfortunately.
Was your dad into Tangerine Dream, by any chance?
Modders stopped caring
Yup. Some even disavowed starfield.
Machine Games worked on Wolfenstein not Bethesda Game Studios. Two separate developers.
Sorry I should've been more clear. I meant to say they published those two games. My bad.
Very well made video.
Thank you very much!
Micro transactions started in 1995 with Korean games. Bethesda commented about playing a lot of Korean games. They didn’t invent the practice, but helped normalize it in the west. HELP, Bethesda wasn’t even the first studio to start with a B to do it in the west though. Facts watered down over time until people say ‘Bethesda invented micro transactions’
That's how it works on internet communities, people rarely are sceptical or research things themselves, they just repeat what some other folk on a forum are also repeating, it becomes a factoid essentially. I take anything some random nobodies say on a forum or a youtube video with literally a grain of salt, since the internet is about 90% full of people just saying stuff and never having researched any of it themselves, but merely repeating stuff they heard someone else say.
"now"...?
Morrowind GOAT, House Telvanni forever.
In a weird way history repeats itself. The games we get loose on quality and substance, only there for a quick buck and much more with the whole Cash-shop epidemic. wasn't there a similiar event back in the 80s or so where something like that also happened? I could be wrong with the timeline of course, but what i know is that during the gaming crash a lot of the games where more or less garbage. Only there for money and nothing more. Fun was not on the priority. Mayn say the ET-Game was the last drop on the hot stone that made it crack. I think there was much more. End result was the Industry crashed, and for a long time it was not even clear if it would recover at all. Have the feeling we move to such an event. A lot of the main players do some rather stupit shit. And i would say the idea of asking for 100 (insert currency here) for something that is not even finished and would need much more in additional dlc could be the drop this time.
Good work. This video was great.
Thank you!
I'm at 12:37. You are young and it shows.
Sorry, Oblivion was a disappointment for people, who started TES at Daggerfall and Morrowind: very generic fantasy world, proc gen turned into theme park, some very repetitive quests and Todd's lies: Radiant AI, "nothing is scripted", dynamic shadows and parallax mapping turned off on release, atrocious 1024 distant LOD textures, stupid enemy leveling system.
Fallout 3 was a disappointment for people, who played Fallout 1 and 2: writing was significantly worse, clunky 3d person controls, bugs everywhere and the main sin: this was not a fallout, but oblivion with guns: a theme park of disassociated "points of interest" instead of coherent deep world with design for people who would not give it a second thought.
And i don't really believe Todd had much to say in Daggerfall. He was a "crisis manager" for Morrowind, which is when he turned simulation and proc gen into a cell-separated theme park.
I was trying to be as general as possible. Also alot of this is going off of my own experience and what I could research as early reviews. Sadly not as many consumers reviewed games back then. It was pretty hard to find reviews from consumers at the time of release. But yeah I definitely understand what you're saying.
@@GeneralRubicon interesting, you are right, that research of those times can be actually hard: not a lot of resources. You were never wrong in your assessments in this video. It just felt like it was a bit "incomplete" if you know what i mean. Like someone truncated the frustration i had for oblivion and fallout. It's interesting how Skyrim actually can't be called "bad". It actually was magnum opus of Todd Howard's approach and actually proved it's not completely hopeless if done with care. It wasn't genius in any way, but it was good enough to not be disappointed. And it was his first and last "hooray", i would say.
What Gary Gygax said about 2e AD&D. He did the same thing with rules compatible releases of Sixguns & Sorcery. When WotC bought, and changed D&D from a miniatures wargame into a story telling narrative.
The same problem that Gary knew of many years ago. That was the level in which characters in a campaign stop. The 1e AD&D for demi-humans for a number of classes was between 4 and 7. Many 5e campaigns stop when characters reach level 5. 1e AD&D was structured around 10 levels, and more levels could be taken to lengthen character progression. However, WotC immediately changed it to 20 levels with 3e. The core issue being unresolved still manages to plague the game.
Bethesda needs to make a new engine from scratch. They have the money for it. People have been saying it for years. However, this new engine cannot be a reincarnation of the Creation Engine. Just like a new edition of D&D cannot solve certain problems that exist within its own system.
To think that starfield spent 8 years in development like what were they doing?
I think they spend way to much time on fixing fallout 76. They said that it was their "B team" who made this game but I think the main studio was heavily involved too. And after the disastrous release of that game in 2018 they had no choice to spend alot of time of it to fix the mess they made. Then there was Covid19. My guess is that the active development time was less than 2 or 3 years. And it showed when Starfield finally released. It's a half finished game. The "polishing delay" was a lie. The game was not even close to being fininshed at that point.
Bethesda peaked with Morrowind/Oblivion, but they’ve always been mediocre. Obsidian outshined them with NV despite Bethesda trying to shoot them in the foot, and Todd has always been a talentless goofball who got extremely lucky.
Is Fallout 76 worth it in 2024?
If it had mods it would just be a straight upgrade over fallout 4 imo
1. console-first development
2. Todd "don't fix it, cut it" Howard
3. Emil "ignore the reviews" Pagliarulo
Skyrim actually was their most successful, selling in total now 60 million copies. How many copies has fallout 4 sold? 25 million copies.
Skyrim was truly the most hyped of any of their releases and the most marketed, which explains why it sold so many copies and is still being heavily modded and played till this day.
Morrowind only sold 4 million copies and Oblivion only sold 9.5 million copies. The true peak of Bethesda in popularity and sales was Skyrim, it isn't debatable, and after Skyrim they have been continuously declining as a company.
Their newest horrible release Starfield has only sold 2.5 million copies and sales have dropped to almost nothing now as many people came out exposing the game as horrible, so a lot of people aren't buying it, and its service life clearly will be short.
And this release by Bethesda will certainly have some impact on the Elder Scrolls 6, because some people will no longer have faith in Bethesda and assume that ES6 will be as bad as Starfield and will no longer fall for the hype that they fell for with Starfield.
Why does a company die off like this? It isn't rocket science, most of the artists, story writers, programmers etc don't even work at the company anymore, it is instead a whole new group of people making these games than made the previous releases that many appreciated.
Yes, ES6 likely will be made by a lot of the same people that made Starfield. Yes a lot of the broken characters, and vapid procedural generation likely will be part of ES6 sadly. Bethesda had a good run while it lasted I guess, they enjoyed constantly growth all up till their peak performing game Skyrim, then they have died off after that essentially.
Maybe its just me but i enjoyed Skyrim the least from the Elder Scrolls games (I've played Daggerfall to Skyrim) at least in a vanilla state, modded Skyrim was fun until SKSE was updated and it would break my saves and i have to start over, eventually I gave up on Skyrim, i never finished the main quest cause i care that little for it unlike the other games
To this day I still feel betrayed by FO76. Not for the state of release but bc it was multiplayer. I'm single player games only. BGS was my favorite for that. Then they stabbed me and all the fans that adored them for single player experiences right in the back. I don't care if it's "fixed" now. I'll never touch it.
I likely never will touch it again.
I wouldn’t say they stabbed you in the back. They made it very clear that 76 will be an online service game from the day they announced it. They are not forcing you to like it or buy it.
They wanted to experiment clearly, yes it wasn’t the best but they did fix it and never asked us for a further penny outside of micro transactions which are optional.
They don’t really owe you or us anything. To say they betrayed you has a lot of hubris behind it, I’m not gonna lie.
"Now"? Lol
A smaller map about the size of Mortal Shell. Bethesda makes a game about the same size utilizing a new engine. They release, and sell it for a profit. Then, increase spending on R&D working out the kinks on a smaller game. What is learned, and using what works to expand the size on the next game. A large map, a whole lot of complex systems, and piling all it onto an unstable engine. This shall keep leading to the same problems.
The problems didn't begin at Skyrim.
But ok.
76 should have been a 30€ co-op game, and starfield's skeleton would have been a better 76.
Cdpr literally made Bethesda irrelevant they made a game almost as good as GTA with Bethesda rpg elements why would anyone play a Bethesda game when cyberpunk except maybe just nostalgia is beyond me. It’s better than every game Bethesda made yes even Skyrim or fallout 3.
23:36 smelly turd has me rolling lolol stinky turd nugget. I was excited for Starfield since like 2014 when it was announced and waited years only to not even buy it…
Good vid but "little competition" in the most innovative category ? Bro. Have you ever played shadows of doubt ? They had competition, that's also why ppl were upset at the award
I meant the Xbox game of the year award there. Not the steams most innovative game
@@GeneralRubicon ah, gotcha, indeed it had little competition lol
It always did
Disagree abt. creation engine but overall a nice video abt. Bethesda's evolution.
They better not have the speaker character CRAP in Fallout 5…it was unbearable…
Zenimax is and was Bethesda. They founded Bethesda Game Studios as a subsidiary after changing their name to Zenimax and becoming a publisher.
No eso?
Never played it. I wanted to talk about all of the games I've played personally.
This is funny cause just yesterday I almost gave Bethesda more of my money. I have been bored waiting for a new game to drop so I thought I might try ESO again as I have not tried it since closer to ESO's launch(on Xbox) but as I was about to purchase ESO from Steam but I remembered they are Bethesda. I stopped the transaction and I removed from shopping cart - Bethesda screwed me and every Fallout fan over with FO76 so I will NEVER BUY BETHESDA AGAIN! Bethesda cares nothing about its "customers" and they overhype their games and they always underdeliver. Bad company, run by bad people ,IMO.
Also, FO76 is nothing but bugs still to this day. I spun it up a couple of months back and still got random crashes. Bethesda abandoned the FO76 players and took a dump on the FOverse by doing so.
Cause bethesda cares more about DEI than games.
DEI?
@@GeneralRubicon diversity,equity and inclusion when it comes too their hiring practices.
Emil and Todd will make sure TES6 crashes and burns. I genuinly think that present day Bethesda can't make a deep and meaningfull game even if the future of the studio literally depends on it at this point.
people dont want deep and meaningfull gameplay anymore, they want action RPG`s and story shooter like cyberpunk and starfield. gaming officially arrived in the mainstream and now it sucks ass.
actually you should try fallout 76 again I think they have redeemed themselves
Nah
Good, fuck em. Fleecing us for money with broken shit ass games for over a decade.
Well it's because of A) Greed and B) lack of the RP part of an RPG game 😂 how can you roleplay something if there are such massive limitations and stupid ones on top of that? Starfield is one of the worst RPG games to date.
Bethesda became a woke sjw company
You’re remembering Bethesda through rose tinted glasses. Nostalgia…
You mention them going back to their roots like Oblivion where you also mentioned earlier they literally invented micro transactions. Arguably the worst thing to ever happen to video games.
You mention the more intuitive leveling system of Skyrim implying Oblivion was worse.
You mention the radiant ai. Which btw people are ravenous for an Oblivion remaster and the thought of that radiant ai this day and age has me cracking up.
You could go on for days about issues with Oblivion however all the issues were things the child versions of ourselves were easy to overlook.
Bethesdas bangers had no expectations attached. How are they supposed to deliver on the expectations of millions of peoples childhood nostalgia? Not gonna happen, at least not for us, our childhood toys just aren’t as much fun anymore. We’re too critical and too cynical. My 11 yo son somehow enjoys Starfield, I need to constantly remind myself to not bring him down to my level and let him just have fun.
Other than new Vegas i dont really like any obsidian games.
Have you tried Pillars Of Eternity?
boohoo
Nothing…. And I mean nothing caught my attention in this video more than seeing league of legends being played on what looks like an Xbox controller….
Gotta love stock footage lmao
Bethesda end begins from Fallout 4.
"great games like the Outer Worlds", "Fallout 3 didn't disappoint", "Skyrim is where problems begun"...
Yeah, you are not qualified to do videos such as this one. Not surprising, given the age, but still.
I am looking at the overall reception and critical reception at the time of release, dude.
@@GeneralRubicon even in this case you are wrong as Skyrim is still THE bestseller. If you judge by reception then even F4 was amazing.
@DartNoobo I am trying to keep my personal opinions out of this video. It's a video essay not commentary.
@@GeneralRubicon commendable. Still, if public reaction is the measurement, then Skyrim was peak Bethesda. Problems begun with the F76
@DartNoobo yeah I understand. I tried to keep it as general as possible so I also refrained from opinions formed over a long period of time. I think it's safe to say that 80% of people who played skyrim at the time of release thought it was a great game. Also 90% of people who played fo76 hated it. That's kind of what I used to Guage the video.
I bet I have over 5000 hours in Arena and about half the hours in Daggerfall. Bethesda used to be my favorite game developer. They have done nothing but disappoint their most loyal fans for years now. The Television show every Fallout fan has been waiting for will be ruined by wokeism as anything made by Amazon is instant trash. The future of Gaming is bleak.
Microsft sucks and Bethesda sucks. The combinations of those two turds will be catastrophic. They should feel lucky that can always land on their windows money beacuse it wont last long.
Grow up. Without Bethesda we would never have had fallout 3+4
Just say it sucks because it's not on PlayStation, stop being a looser, you know Bethesda is legendary....
What's a looser?
You should see ESO. The PvP is a shitshow
I didn't cover that because I've never played it. I didn't think it would've been fair for me to criticize a game I've never played.
They suck now? Bro they have always been a garbage dev company. 😂