5 reasons why Messi will win the Ballon d'Or over Haaland
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2023
- Erling Haaland has just won the biggest club competition in Europe. Will it be enough to get him the most prestigious individual award in football? We don’t think so! Here are 5 reasons why Lionel Messi will win the Ballon d’Or over Erling Haaland.
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A lot of People seem to forget how much importance France Football gives to World Cup and UCL performance in the FINAL,Haaland could've made the race tighter if he at LEAST made a single assist, but ghosting literally ALL FINALS with zero goals and assists, 10 touches ,While Messi made a CLUTCH performance with 2 goals at the biggest stage of football deals Messi is the favorite
@Just Do It whatever you say but that was a high pressure penalty and dying minute tap in 😎
@Just Do It Messi was MOTM in the final of WC with a 9.5 peformance whilst Halaand had a 6.5 peformance ( one of the lowest ranked players in Man City ).
@Just Do It Messi was involved in three goals that Argentina scored and was active for the entire 120 minutes , whilst Mbappe was absent for 75 minutes and Di Maria got subbed off. Martinez had that incredible last minute save BUT u can't give MOTM award to a goalkeeper that has conceded 3 goals in one game. Deep down ( beside delusional cr7 fans ) everyone know that Messi was the best without a single doubt.
@@justdoit4942dont embarrassed yourself like this. World Cup is world most prestigious event. Every players dream is to win it. Only a stupid like u don't know it's importance. Winning wc is not everyone's cup of tea.
World Cup is worth 4 champions leage becouse you can only play it every 4 years
I have asked this question so many times yet not a single Haaland (or CR7) fangirl has answered: Apart from goalscoring, why does Haaland deserve the ballon d'Or?
Ask oh😂😂😂😂
Omg dis da question right here 😂😂😂
Bro dematirialized in finals💀
Fun Fact: Did you know that Messi is the first player since the great Romario 🇧🇷 to have won the world cup and golden ball in the same edition of the same tournament.
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Messi should win the balon dor....very right
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances
@@jamesmlawanda8025 as far as i know haaland made nearly only tap ins.. no goal soutside of the box.. think about that
@@beotho slide kick goals, scissor kick goal, bicycle kick goal. He has scored plenty from yards out with dortmund, Red Bull. What amazing goals has Messi scored in the 👩🌾’s (farmer)league ?
@@jamesmlawanda8025oh really
Messi in 2023
FIFA the best
Laures award
Iffhs goalscorer
Iffhs playmaker
Wc
Wc golden ball
Wc silver boot
Haaland in 2023
UCL
UCL topscorer
Premier league best player
Premier league youngest best player
Premier league golden boot
European golden boot
Fa cup
I think if haaland won he deserves it
To be honest, if Messi had only scored the 3 open play goals, his performance would still have been by far the highlight of the world cup. Nobody cares about the penalties he scored - when he had the ball at his feet, he was unstoppable. Produced the greatest individual displays against Croatia etc, produced the greatest passes, the wondergoal against Mexico where he singlehandedly lifted Argentina out of their turmoil. No other player this season has had such an inspirational performance in any competition today. Put it this way - if the world cup had happened NOW (in June) in exactly the same way - absolutely nobody would bat an eye about who should win it. The guy was possessed by Maradona. Argentina would straight up have been knocked out with ease without him.
keep coping, Mbappe was player of the tournament. and Ronaldo is the goat.
@@DailyDoseOfSpeeed *Whatever makes you bark, buddy.*
Premier league >>> Farmers league
@@DailyDoseOfSpeeed golden ball means best player kid 🧏
@@swarnavadas3063 But UCL > World Cup? Hell no. Haaland was nowhere to be seen in the UCL, while Messi (with or without penalties) singlehandedly took Argentina to the final, AND won. Even Messi's biggest hater (that dude that was crying 'fraud' a few years ago) admitted he was 'picture perfect'.
Ballon d or to MLS is mad💀
MLS is next season
@@rvs-rayhanvideosites7370 messi got his 7th ballon d'or for his performance at barca...but it went to Paris right....just like that it will go Miami because the award will on November or December...at that time messi will me in Miami
@@sarangg18 the award will be awarded in October 30th
Messi's MLS move doesn't affect his chances, bro.
@@sarangg18messi will prob be will be in inter Miami for only 1 season why?, because messi can be sent to Barca on a loan, so at the other season’s end messi can join Barca for free
guys 3 more things-
-Historically, in a WC year, the WC is given priority as compared to other achievements in case of the ballon d'or, so it does favour Messi here(especially since he was the best player at that world cup too).
-Haaland has the most big chances missed by a mile in the top 5 leagues, which is a real shame for a striker(im not saying he's bad, but many players would have been able to achieve the same goal tally that haaland did with that man city team).
-Messi won MOTM in EVERY SINGLE STAGE of the World Cup, now thats just unheard of and coming from a 35 year old its almost unbelievable.
most important thing for everyone to remember is that the ballon d'or is given for the best player, and not the top goalscorer and Messi has, in my humble opinion, edged out haaland there.
Halaand has been a great scorer in the other hand Messi has been the best overall player by a mile.
@@draza9000 you haven't seen messi play this season have you. haaland deserves it. world cups cool and all but the fact that this is the second treble in 24 years by an English side. messi's season with psg has been a nightmare you'd be blind to say that psg plays better any with messi than without. Haaland has been terrific all season long messi let psg down when it mattered while man city are always confident when haalands on the field. Offcourse toxic messi fans would act every bit like the blind POS they are and ignore haalands achievements this season.
@@adarshvinu3791 Messi won two trophies with PSG and had a 41 goal contribution , if that is bad than i'd suggest you to take a brain scan. Halaand isn't even best player of Man City. Had only one MOTM performance against Leipzig in Champions league whilst the likes of Rodri,Gundogan,Silva,KDB had MOTM performances in all the rest of knockout stages and final of UCL. Didn't contribute anything for Norway in EURO qualifiers.
@@draza9000 haaland scored twice and assisted once against bayern while psg were better of playing with 10 men than with messi horrendous performance. psg had about 2.3 goals per game this season with messi while they averaged about 2.7 goals in the 2020 season and also might be good to mention the context of the games both Madrid and inter were staying low with their back line while in the finals france kept their defence high during both the open play goals haaland has helped city multiple times he parried defenders away from bernardo silva for the first man city goal against Real in the second leg if. So if messi's teammates hadn't scored those penalties and France was to win the World Cup this would be a different story wouldt it. Ha crazy of me to assume @Draza actually watches games instead of copypasting popular opinions from twitter and reddit
@@draza9000 also haaland missed the euro qualifiers due to an injury and scored 5 times in 6 games in the world cup qualifiers
The Golden Boot is for the top goal scorer, and Haaland deserves it, but that's not the same as being the best player. Haaland was a non-factor in the biggest matches for City, and without Gundogan & Rodri rescuing them in the FA Cup & UCL finals there would have been no treble. Messi carried Argentina to the World Cup title, and he was the highest rated player not only for PSG and in Ligue 1, but also across all of the top 5 leagues by a large margin. With the titles at stake, Messi carried his teammates, and Haaland's teammates carried him. There is no question that Messi deserves the Ballon d'Or.
Then GOAT will win his 8th Balon D'Or🐐
And then his 9th the super ballon dor
@@MultipleFlamesyes for sure
@@inujjamanemon4696sadly
@@MultipleFlames You can say that again! Super Ballon d'Or most definitely! And who says he can't win more than 8 Ballons d'Or?
@@lionelnkwenti7384 uhh man I mean I hope he wins more balon dors but he’s know old he will need to have numbers like this season and win big trophys that’s what he need
For me Messi will always be the GOAT no matter wat anyone does bt winning the treble and scoring 52 goals a season iin your first season in the most competitive league does make you the best player of that season
To everyone saying Haaland deserves to win this year..
Ballond'or is given to the best player in a particular year. Trophies do play an important role, but it's based on the overall performance of the player. If Haaland deserves the ballond'or then he should've excelled in every field for eg, goals, assists ,dribbling, playmaking, etc.. he's gotta be the standout player of the team. In this case he wasn't, he bagged a shitload amount of goals for a debut season which is impressive, but he isn't even that influential (like De Bruyne, Gündoğan for instance) even in his absence the team thrives.
Whereas Messi on the other hand still managed to get 50+ G/A (without friendlies), and excel in every other field, 4 MOTM in WC, that's what makes him the better player. It's somewhat like the 2021 ballond'or , Lewa only had more goals than Messi other than that he was nowhere close to his quality. Haaland with UCL, FA cup, Premiere League and Messi with WC, French Ligue still Messi has an edge with the WC. This will be a close call, either of them can win.
5 motm in this WC
Haaland ghosted in important games this season. He didn't show up in the semifinals against Madrid, he didn't show up in the FA cup which led to a treble. (if Gundogan doesn't score those two goals out of thin air we wouldn't be having a conversation about a treble winning side), and he had a horrible game in the final against Inter. He is the only pure strike in that team, to go missing for those important games is not acceptable. Goals doesn't equal a Ballond'or and that is why they have the golden boot as well. Messi was THE most important player in that team and was almost dragging them through every round with playmaking, assists and goals. If it wasn't for him who knows if Argentina would of even gotten through the group stage.
Imagine haaland was at Messi situation and Messi was at haaland situation will you'll still talk like that IDIOTS
Listen, this delusion on disappearing in 'important game' is bullshit. Haaland was brought in to achieve champions League glory. Not only was he a top goalscorer to that, he was a top goalscorer to the premier League and contributed hugely to the treble itself. Not to mention he broke the premier league goal scoring record.
Everyone is opting for Messi to win the ballondor to make it seem like a romantic season of finally world cup glory for the GOAT. He was great in the world cup but the keeper, martinez was the entire game changer for Argentina but no-one wants to acknowledge that because he isn't a big enough name to put under the ballondor award.
Messi is the GOAT, no-one can deny that. But this bias is disgusting to see, Messi can disappear the entire tournament and score the winning goal in the world cup final and automatically be the favourite for the ballondor.
People will bring up most chances created stats for Ligue un etc, but he was brought in for the ucl. They didn't win it. Not only that, Messi had a very rough season in the league.
Don't jump to a different season in an attempt to justify him winning the ballondor this season because that's not how it works. If haaland didn't have the season he had, Messi would take it and no one would care, but it's plain robbery to see it happening in the current circumstances.
Take out legacy and all of that aside, comparing two players as neutrals from beginning of the season to the end, it's clear to see haaland takes it.
Since you like your 'if' statements:
If Martinez never saved that shot from Muani, France might've been the world champions. Mbappe taking home a second world cup and being the most instrument piece of French success internationally.
If Martinez never done so brilliantly in penalties and saves in normal time, Argentina would have been knocked out no matter how good Messi was.
The whole Argentina team was excellent, Messi wasn't at his best that tournament yet was still at a level normal players would find difficult to play against. But Martinez was the piece of the puzzle that brought Messi his long achieved wish of the world cup.
How come you said that he ghosted on the most important games??? Did you forget that Haaland literally scored 5 goals against RB leipzig , a goal against Bayern. He also was pivotal in some PL games , he scored against Arsenal, united,etc.. broke the PL record for the most goals in season. If the Ballon Dor is only based on important games then im sorry thats BS.
Its about player's performance and rating all season all games. Not just a couple games. Sure Messi was the best player of WC and won it, but Haaland won the treble and top goalscorer of CL, PL and PL best player. Treble = WC.
Haaland competed on the best league in the world. French league is only 5th...
It has to be Haaland surely. But Messi deserves the 2nd that i can agree on.
@@dzassault was brought to win the Champioms League yet ghosted in the semifinal against Madrid and dropped a disaster class in the final. Your literally destroying your own argument. Your saying that Messi can disappear the entire tournament and score the winning goal and he would get all the glory but he DIDINT DISAPPEAR. Yoir arguing in hypothetical scenarios, it makes no sense. That didint happen. Without him they probably dont even get past the group stages and it dosent matter what Martinez would of done. If you actually watch all the games Messi was continously creating , assisting, dropping deep, breaking lines and scoring . He was the KEY player for Argentina to win the world in all games. And he scored a brace in the final when it most mattered. Haaland disappeared in big games and that is a fact. 5 goals against Lizping is not a key reason why the won the CL, let's be honest.
Messi was the best with psg and Argentina 🇦🇷
Messi helped psg practically accomplish nothing with neymar and mbappe….
@@kendallacheampong1443 thats why he has most g/a for them this season and he won them the league by 1 point by scoring a 96 th minute free kick
Mbappe was named best player of the year in Ligue 1, not Messi.
@@parques1234 still doesn't change the fact messi has more g/a and most motm
Ronaldo scored 101 goals at 35 years old over his spell at Juventus. Messi had 40+ goals over his spell at PSG.
For people whoever says Messi only scored penalties in the World cup, just accept that you only watched the highlights of all the games!
Fr
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances
@@jamesmlawanda8025 If it's about goals then he should win striker of the year award, if it's about assists then he should win playmaker award. But it's about overall best that's why we should look at G/A. Ans yes ligue 1 < Premier league. But WC > premier league and UCL and Haaland didn't even play in the WC which is a major disadvantage!
Yes, the very same Messi got booed because he won the WC against their own fans in their own country!
@@Krato65 Messi was poor that's a fact, he underperformed, was he the best player in the Wc debatable mbappe was better but he just didn't win, but all season wide Messi was nowhere near the best and 7 games doesn't make up for that
@@jamesmlawanda8025 You're a fool!
If we use those concepts, Alveres should win the ballon dor
You a suspect 😂
yea fk yeah give him that I'll swallow that but haaland no he deserves golden boot best striking award but complete player hell no
Messi can score goals in his backyard, and his fans will still say his worthy of winning the balon dor
Haaland can score lots of tap ins and still he'd deserve ballon d'Or over Messi according to some fans. Oh wait that's a reality!
Imagine if messi won epl,fa cup and champion legue with epl golden boot,ucl golden boot and European golden boot and other player won world cup with messi stat
I'm sure messi would given a goat tag and balond'or.
popularity of messi always favouring him. Messi has incredible wc performance but whole season, he isn't that sharp. I honestly can say haaland fully deserves balond'or
Messi should win for sure
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances. 16 goals in ligue 1 and u counting international friendlies for lik 15 of his goals, be fair bro
More than 100000%messi deserve it!!!
Do you fancy Leo Messi or Erling Haaland for the Ballon d’Or?
@@Theo-qk6cf with Penalty kicks
HAALAND
#LionEightMessi
#MEightSSI
#LeOchoMessi
Haaland should win it if not it would be a robbery.Messi is in inter Miami for a reason.
Messi
Messi truly deserved the Ballondor
troll
Messi showed in his latest match what he is capable of. PSG was never a team. Halland needs to wait for another year for ballon d’e ore!
Wow man keep up what your doing❤❤
This will be Lewandowski all over again. I hope for Messi's sake he doesn't win it, because it will devalue his previous ones.
He will.
U don't give the award to an undeserving guy just for the sake of some hateful ppl.
Messi🥇😍
The debate can rage on but I hope Messi wins it and if not, I am truly happy to see Messi play a magical season and win the trophy I wanted him to lift ever since 2014
Nooo!!!!! Sergio Aguero should be the ballon d'or winner
My man has won trebel with man city, La Liga with Barcelona & World Cup with Argentina🗿
🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥
Messi will get it also this time 🎉🎉🎉
"The world cup is the only missing trophy in Messi's Cabinet"
Puskas:Am I a Joke to you??
Puskas is not the a trophy 😅
It's an award
Messi is the best
Let's change Messi mind retiring in the next word cup🏆 because noone is better than him no one can much Messi
By this logic Alvarez should win
Because he has world cup and treble
King Messi always great and humble he deserves to win Balloon D'OR 2023
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances
2010 Ballon d'Or
Messi ended the 2009/10 season with 47 goals across all competitions, his best-ever single-season tally at the time which also included 34 league goals in 35 games to help Barcelona win the La Liga title with 99 points.
Whereas messi failed to score in 2010 World Cup. 🤷♂️
ballon d'or this things matter: individual awards, teams trophies, stats (overall and not just goals), big games, a player's career.
1. individual awards:
messi: wc golden ball, wc silver boot, wc best assistant, fifa best, fifa best playmaker, national best scorer, laurus award, franch super cup mvp, league 1 mvp (deserved)
haaland: pl mvp, pl best scorer, pl young player of the year, golden boot, cl best scorer
sum: messi wins
2: team trophies:
messi: world cup, league 1, franch super cup
haaland: pl, cl, fa cup
sum: tie/messi
(due to the wc season and as wc is better than cl but pl and fa are better that franch staff, it's tie and still more on the messi's side, cause of wc is on top)
3. stats:
messi: 38 goals and 25 assists - 63 g/a
10 contributions on wc - which was the most
he was the best assistant and the second best scorer on wc,
he was the best playmaker and had the best rating with the most motms on wc
so he simply dominated the wc with the argentina which was ridiculed until they won
in top 5 he was the only player with vini who scored 20+ and assisted 20+
in top 5 he was the best assistant, the best dribbler, the best rated player, had the most motms
he played less on cl but still scored 4 and assisted 4, also got 3 motms
haaland: 53 goals and 9 assists - 62 g/a
scored the most in europe
scored the most on cl
he made it in a better league, yes, but france still is in top 5 and there's not as much big difference as people try to provoke, even more when city won pl for 5 times in 6 seasons, they were the previous winners, they also played in cl semis for all this time, they played once in the final..so all this means that they were dominating the world before haaland and everything is better with such team, while we can't compare that team to psg, like lets start with the coaches, one is coached by the genious, who's in all time bests and another by - farmer galtier. one has the best diffense with diaz, ake, walker and etc, while another has old ramos, overated marcinios and bitchiabu (wtf), one has the best midfield with kdb, rodri, stones, gundo and another has old veratti, vitinia, ruis and danilo, one has griliesh, foden, bernardo and another mbappe, injured naymar and ekitike. so pls don't make psg the best team cause there is mbappe, only mbappe is not a "team", if u know football, u know that the game is decided by the midfield so see the real differences.
also let's look at their records too cause it's one of the main parts of the game
messi: set 10+records on wc, such as becoming the best contributor of wc, becoming the best assistant of wc, scoring in all wc stages, having the most caps, motms, ky passes and etc.. also he became the most decorated player in history, he became the best scorer in europe, he became the best scorer internationally who scored the most int goals in a year, he won another playmaker award which made him the best playmaker in history and etc..
haaland: scored the most pl goals in a year, Fastest player in Premier League history to three league hat-tricks, scored 5 goals in a single cl match (tied to messi)
sum: by overall stats messi wins
4. big games:
messi: he had the most of his big games on wc - we all know what happened
he had the big games against bayern and he was bad but still the best with ramos from his team (still zero)
on the super cup he scored and became the mvp
on league winning game he scored and got his team the trophy
haaland: he had the most big games on cl: against bayern, madrid and inter - and he floped in all of them. (yes he may scored against bayern, but in the end when it didn't matter and his team was destorying its opponent without him)
he had big game on fa cup and he again floped there too
he had big game against arsenal - he wasn't bad but still kdb was the mvp of that match
sum: messi definitely wins hear (haaland floped in most of his big games)
5. player's career
that was added to the ballon d'or recently and it consists player's whole career, like his reputation and achievements
so without any explanation messi wins hear too
overall as u can see messi wins in all this statements, so he clearly will win the ballon d'or too.
Of course it has to be GOAT 🐐🐐 Himself "MESSI"
Winning treble is just as hard as winning world cup though
Much harder than winning World Cup we are talking about epl here compared to 7 game tournament
Messi also won treble and won the world cup
@@churchill525 no he didn't what are you saying
Hello your the best youtubers
If the trophies and goals by Messi and Haaland are swapped, will you think the Champions League and the league are more important?
Champions League is better than World Cup ( penaldo fans be like hah ) 😂
Messi Ballon Dor 8 100% no doubt goals assist creating chances dribling most man of the match best playmaker and wining best price World Cup
world cup is the greatest football achievement , it has been like this for years .
@@delayedcreator4783 So give the Ballon d’Or back to Iniesta
@@cedriczhang6129 what😂, how much tears you have left mate
@@delayedcreator4783 Don't get away from the topic, when you hold the same standard to all players, there will be an answer.
Leo Messi Deserves It
So y’all why did LUKA MODRIC win it .. I’m a Messi fan but if they give to messi it’d be a real scam .. Debut season and man’s been outrageous .. HALLAND should be given the bd’or already .. plus had it been Messi’s debut season we the messi fans would’ve gone wild saying it’s Messi’s debut season and he’s done all these .. c’mon guys .. Halland deserves it more ..
For scoring tap ins? Football is more than goals. Messi has the 2nd most dribbles completed behind Vinicius, 2nd most assists in Europe behind De Bruyne who has Haaland while Messi has an inconsistent Mbappe, he has the World Cup golden ball and World Cup. Haaland scored plenty amount of goals but nothing else.
@@superlegend8118he is probablh a ronaldo fan saying he is a messi to avoild getting attacked
@@howareyou610 seems about right
@@howareyou610 Fr
Haaland was good but Messi in the biggest tournament brought it home and carried Argentina no matter what you say about Martinez in the final if Messi didn't score those 2 goals before that it wouldn't have mattered if they scored or not. Haaland completley ghosted all the big games and scored most of his goals against the worse teams in the premier league. Messi is 35 and did all this and got most g/a in across all comps haaland only wins it against Messi on goals . Messi takes assists chances created g/a playmaking impact and everything else. Haaland also didn't have as much as an impact Messi did as without him city did as good 😂
Haland the top scorer of the champions league and premier league
That’s it, he is the top scorer not the best player
@@basedboys17 he’s a striker his job is to put the ball at the back of the net and his first season he broke Alan shearer record no matter how you try to spin it what haaland has done is amazing.At the beginning of the season being compared to the likes of Nunez now playing a pivotal role in helping man city win their first ever champions league and treble…..While Messi is in inter Miami rotting away at 35.Compare what Ronaldo was doing at 35….
@@kendallacheampong1443 how about stop forcing the comparison between ronaldo and messi, its not even a debate
@@kendallacheampong1443 who invited the camel
@@kendallacheampong1443 Hahaha,so ur rooting fr Haaland coz ur carmel idol has now become completely redundant n obsolete.Hahaha,continue creating ur own false happiness,provided it makes u sleep at night we can live with that.
Messi is million miles ahead of Haland interms of skill, vision, talent, play making and leadership. Interms of apperance, the haters think UEFA Champions Trophy is bigger and heavier than the World Cup but in reality is UCL 40% more hollow, 60% lighter, 90% less expensive than the WC in the view of metal experts.😂 To win and lift the trophy, you need to be extraterrestrial and godly 💕.
Watching again after 4 years this channel 😅
This is why Leon Edwards has the most aesthetic physique
i personally dont like haaland that much and prefer mbappe over him but this is outrageous, treble + goals everywhere, yes he ghosted in big games but the numbers speak themselves, im a manutd fan saying that
Your a Ronaldo famboy then. First they started riding Mbapee and now yall are riding Halland. Just hoping from meat to meat 🤣🤣
Haaland will be playing in a lot more finals. he'll score in the big one
"im a manutd fan saying that"
Bro thinks he did something😭😭. Messi owns ur club, of course you don't want him to win it.
tapinland haven't done anything big to win Ballon dor, this year messi deserves it more
@@EP591 😂
Messi must be given Ballon d'or because he scored 5 great Penalty Goals in World Cup and won Ligue 1, which is the Best League in the World.
Sarcasm
Amen 👏
To be honest, if Messi had only scored the 3 open play goals, his performance would still have been by far the highlight of the world cup. Nobody cares about the penalties he scored - when he had the ball at his feet, he was unstoppable. Produced the greatest individual displays against Croatia etc, produced the greatest passes, the wondergoal against Mexico where he singlehandedly lifted Argentina out of their turmoil. No other player this season has had such an inspirational performance in any competition today. Put it this way - if the world cup had happened NOW (in June) in exactly the same way - absolutely nobody would bat an eye about who should win it.
Yeah his assist against Gvardiol (best defender of the tournament)
His no look pass(one of the best passes in history ever) vs Netherlands
*His accurate sniper against Mexico* WHEN HIS COUNTRY NEEDED THE MOST FAILING WOULD BE PACKED HOME
Meanwhile haaland
Completely ghosting when it mattered the most
*My man has less touches than goalkeeper*
@@alanmofticomposer messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances. The very same messi who u are counting 15 goals from internation friendlies, he scored 16 goals in ligue 1 a farmers league and 7 goals in world cup. The same messi who didn't do anything in the champions league, honestly don't count ligue 1 and trophee de champions because they were always going to win it, be fair bro haaland deserves it
They may give it to Halaand to begin a new era and rivalry of food 😂😂😂
I feel like the Ballon dor is always going to the player who has the most hype. That's the only consistent factor i see. I feel like if it's about winning it should go to Alvarez (World Cup, Treple) if it's about Goals it should go to Haaland (top scorer PL and CL) and if it's about individuall performance it should be Messi (De Bruyne is pretty close but i think the insane World Cup performance gives Messi the edge). I thought the Ballor Dor will go to Messi but now that he goes to the MLS I'm pretty sure Haaland will win it because he gained a lot of hype by winning CL and Messi will lose a lot by going to the MLS. I personally would give it to De Bruyne because even though i said Messi before because World Cup i feel like a player who plays his "second half" in the MLS should not win the Ballon Dor. But i think Haaland winning it will be more likely.
season ends in july for the criteria so messi will still win it for his european season and world cup success. inter miami would have been 2023/2024 season.
But It doesn't matter what happens from here after, the season being critiqued ended.
it's either messi or haaland
U need to understand that the balondor is a seasonal award which is noe over.Messi's move to the Mls isn't going to be a factor as that will happen when a new season begins in europe.Its only the 2022-2023 season that will be used to judge who wins it.
@@desmondachocky537not the season alone
Entire world was behind messi in last world cup. Who can forget that. He single handled argentina to historic glory. No player ever close to such greatness.
Messi fans are insane. You'll be saying he deserves another ballon d'or next year in the mls hahahaha. Gk was Argentinas best player he won them the wc not messi.
@@timtan2023hiyffg Ah yes Emi Martinez scored the goals right?
@@superlegend8118 messi and ronaldo fan girls like you are not even real football fans, anyone that thinks hes the best player in the world still should be ignored. Enjoy mls, you just follow messi around like a child
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances
@@jamesmlawanda8025 Haaland fanboys thinking goals are the only thing that exist
Haaland deserves to win it. Messi robbed 3 players of ballon dor without winning a UCL or an international trophy himself but simply because he's Messi. He has fanboys in media that'll vote for him no matter what. Haaland may have tapered off towards the end of the season but he broke several records and won the Treble, Messi winning it because he scored several penalties in a month long tournament is outrageous. He already won Fifa best and WC golden ball I think that should be enough for him
The awards you just mentioned at the end of your statement further cement Messi's chances of winning the Ballon d'Or.
@@lionelnkwenti7384 not really because Lewandowski won the Fifa best player award but still got robbed of winning the Ballon dor
@@ededdneddy988 Lewandowski was not robbed; Messi duly deserved it. It's always very difficult for a goalscorer to triumph over a much more complete player like Messi when the two players perform well in a season, and that also explains why no matter how hard CR7 tries he will never match Messi. CR7, Lewandowski and Haaland are all of the same breed - dominantly goalscorers. Besides, the Ballon d’Or takes into account so many things and when you go into details Messi almost always comes out on top.
@@ededdneddy988 Lewa won FIFA BEST for winning Bundesliga lol. That was the biggest robbery EVER.
Someone's mad. Here kid let me help you out.
You talk about Messi scoring pens when Haaland has scored tap ins. That's literally it. At least Messi has scored 10 other outside the box goals, I think the most in Europe idk.
Anyway Messi was the first EVER footballer to win the Laureus award for best sportsman. He won FIFA men's player of the year. He won IFFHS playmaker and player of the year. He had the most assists in Ligue 1. He had the highest G/A ratio in Ligue 1 as well as PSG. He was the first player to reach 20 goals and 20 assists this season. He has the most man of the match awards this season and more.
Highest average match rating this season:
9. Harry Kane - Tottenham (7.51) Amazingly scored 30 goals with an average Spurs side. Impressive.
8. Karim Benzema - Real Madrid (7.53) Hasn't had the same season as last season but he is still a brilliant striker
7. Erling Haaland - Man City (7.54) Despite the amount of goals he's scored, Haaland is not even City's highest-rated player this season as he hasn't done much other than goal scoring
6. Jude Bellingham - Borussia Dortmund (7.58) Nice young player
5. Kevin De Bruyne - Man City (7.58) He deserves the ballon d'Or more than Haaland.
4. Antoine Griezmann - Atletico Madrid (7.69) Has been brilliant since he joined Atletico
3. Neymar - PSG (7.71) Surprised he's on the list because he's injured a lot but
2. Kylian Mbappe - PSG (7.80) Clutch in World Cup. Ligue 1 top scorer but hasn't been as influential as last season. More complete than Haaland tho.
1. Lionel Messi - PSG (8.28) The best player is of course Messi easily with a whopping 8.28 average match rating.
Haaland only has the goal stats while Messi has literally everything else.
After reading all this, if you still think Haaland deserves it completely, you are deluded. I won't mind if he wins it but he doesn't deserve overall. And if it was all about stats then Messi would have won 2016/17 and 2017/18.
its simple if Hallard would have scored on the most important games then it was going to be a debate. FA cup and UCL but unfortunately the discussion is over.
Lol messi fans are nuts. He'll win because its corrupt and just a popularity contest. Messi shouldn't win though hes not the best player, wasnt the best in psg this year, psg play in uber eats too, were terrible in cl and the wc was won by Argentina and the gk was the most important player lol. Messi is just not the best anymore but fan boys be fam boys. They'll be saying next season he deserves it too when he scores in mls lol hahahahahaha
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances
I swear Messi fans are just deluded
oh my goal meat riding again c'mon mann
He's speaking facts whether you like it or not
Messi
Messi THE KING OF FOOTBALL ALL TIME
Messi has already won it on 18-12-2022, lets talk about 2024
I appreciate what Halland did this year
But look what Messi achieved this time every award being the main man
@Giulio Romeo
Haaland : 1 MOTM performance in UCL , 6 MOTM performances in PL.
Messi : 5 MOTM performances in WC , 14 MOTM pefromances in Ligue 1.
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances. The very same messi who u are counting 15 goals from internation friendlies, he scored 16 goals in ligue 1 a farmers league and 7 goals in world cup. The same messi who didn't do anything in the champions league, honestly don't count ligue 1 and trophee de champions because they were always going to win it, be fair bro haaland deserves it
How interesting thisight be, does Oh my goal even realise that barely anybody lijes their vids nowadays with the robot voice?
All yall say messi cuz of WC but remember this the first WC during winter so this is already not like other WC years and i feel it wont have the same impact as past ones
World Cup is World Cup!
Y'all just love Messi
because it's by whatever voters pick, just ask Ribery and Sneijder
Messi the best 🔥
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances. The very same messi who u are counting 15 goals from internation friendlies, he scored 16 goals in ligue 1 a farmers league and 7 goals in world cup. The same messi who didn't do anything in the champions league, honestly don't count ligue 1 and trophee de champions because they were always going to win it, be fair bro haaland deserves it
There's nothing to argue, just go through the stats (g+a), other stats like chances created, dribbles..... and trophies. Messi is clear. Simple as that 🔥
I disagree. I think Haalnd breaking the record in the best league in the world and winning golden boot in UCL and EPL is more impressive than playing in the French league.
@MS Again, it's simple, Haaland's best is UCL, breaking records in best league, Golden boot < Messi's WC, breaking/creating records in WC, Golden ball in World Cup.
@@nazarahamed6683 winning the wc is not better than winning the treble as the 2nd in history and scoring the most goals in a pl season, first time since 1995
Who even cares about Messi’s g+a when he plays in a farmers league. All he did was win the wc. Who cares about a ligue 1 title for psg
@@howdyl6456 ucl is a European competition world cup is a world competition and Messi played against France croatia and Netherlands won against them all
If Messi wins another ballon d'or I'm never watching football ever again like never
You dont love Football in the first place , if ur saying this type of stuff lol. You can not love Football and hate Messi.
That's just not POSSIBLE.
@@draza9000 Hmmmm
go watch saudi league after that , if world cup is joke
The G.O.A.T Messi🐐 deserve the ballon d'or
Messi 8 ballor dor loading….
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances
Question is Simple if Mbaape would have won it for france then the golden ball was his if this was the situation everyone would have preferred haaland but no its messi so everyone is prefering him anyway ballon dor is sometimes bais award check winners during world cup years Simple sometimes its hard to understand
Even with these Haaland scores 53 in champions league and prem the hardest league even though he didn't do that well in big matches he's 22 and still young and if Messi wins it will be an awful decision from France football
France also hate Messi now I don’t see him winning
wdym? Haaland showed up against united, arsenal twice, bayern twice, leipzig, dortmund, spurs he was also brilliant in the 2nd leg against Madrid.
@@aganbraganca5245that's not how it works, journalists vote, france football doesn't decide
bro ik Messi in Wc of that did very well but in terms of the overall season Haaland Def deserve it winning a treble at his first season break all the record i meant what more could you ask for haaland huh? People say messi more complete help the team welp where is psg in Cl ... And winning Ligue1 great totally the best league in the world.
Obviously, ballon d’or is about voting for your favourite player instead of vote who is the best.
Tell me why the best player of 18, 14, 10, 06 World Cups didn't win the Ballon d'Or?
Best player of 18 did
I mean 2006 was robbed and Messi or neuer where robbed in 2014 2010 was fair since messi was the best player at the time and scored /playmaked and assisted much
98 I think Zidane one the ballon dor
And modric won the balon dor
@@ama24107 yes, because modirc won the CL in this year. But the only thing Messi can do is to help his opponent eliminate PSG
2018 Modric was the best player in WC so he won the ballon d'Or. 2006 was a robbery like afkrodri said. 2014 idk. 2010 Xavi, Iniesta, Sneijder etc didn't win the golden ball.
Haaland began and continued the season with a bang but ended it with a low. After all the terrifying scoring, when defences figured him out and became watertight against him he became powerless and scored just a solitary (01) goal in his last 8 games of the season. Messi in the face of such blockades would almost always be able to find a way to break through and make a goal contribution. In addition to his impressive goal record for PSG, I could argue that he won Ligue 1 for them, considering all his assists and also his goal that earned a draw that led to them clinching the trophy. On the other hand, Haaland disappeared from the most crucial games of the season: the two semi-final matches and the finals of the UCL as well as the FA Cup finals. Messi and PSG may have performed dismally in the UCL but at least they participated and reached the round of 16. Compare that with Haaland being completely absent and inexistent from the greatest of competitions (the World Cup), moreover one where Messi was a beast! Messi also boasts a good record in his 7 UCL matches played. Haaland doesn't create anything special and only managed to achieve what he achieved thanks to a very good team and a prolific coach surrounding him. Messi has much greater impact on his teams and is capable of carrying them, but the same cannot be said of Haaland, who is dominantly a goalscorer whereas Messi is much more. I bet you Messi's PSG this season would hardly have dreamt of achieving what they achieved without him, whereas Haaland's Manchester City would still have been sure of winning even without him, though he greatly boosts the team's goalscoring record. Apart from goals - all Haaland's achievements are tied exclusively to goals - Messi outclasses Haaland in almost all other performance aspects and details. The age factor vis-a-vis performance also lends more credit to Messi. No disrespect to Haaland; he's prolific in every sense of the word, I'm so proud of him and wish him the very best in his career as he's still very young and has much to achieve ahead of him. There's no way anyone in his right senses would overlook his uncommon goal record and accompanying accolades as well as team trophies in 2022/2023. But I reckon that the same reason Cristiano Ronaldo could never ever compare to Messi is the same reason Haaland could never compare to Messi or trump him in this year's Ballon d'Or (taking into account this season's performances, though). A complete goalscorer can't match a complete footballer. At best, Haaland should come in second place, very close like Van Djik and take home the best striker award like Lewandowski.
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Bro,, Julian Alvares deserves a Ballon D'or this year.
Why didn’t Mbappe or Neuer win the Balón D’Or when they won the World Cup in the past but when Messi wins it, he’s considered to win it?
Because there are too many Messi fanboys
Fax
Neuer is a goalkeeper and when mbappe won the world cup he wasn't the best player in the tournament And he was 19
years of age teenagers don't win ballon dor but for example zidane won the ballon dor after winning the worldcup same thing with cannavaro don't deny the fact that the worldcup is the biggest achievement for player
Messi is the goat
Why did modric tho?
I think julian Alvarez could win the ballon d'or bexpuse of his achievements and trophies won this season tho becouse of the little play time he got he will probably not be acknowledged
Messi the King 👑
Make a video saying
Why haaland will win the baland'or over messi
This will be close vote
guys i’m sorry if i’m wrong but didn’t messi win the world cup in 2022 not 2023 and messi played better then harland in 2022 but not in 2023 so how would it make sense for messi to win the ballondor at 2023 i’m sorry if i’m wrong
Messi of course
"Parc Depressed" 💀😂
One doesn't win Ballon d'Or by ghosting in big games(semis & finals). It's Messi's Ballon d'Or to lose.
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances. The same messi who ghosted in the champions league, who had 16 goals in the farmers league, be fair bro
Give divock origi his ballon dor then
can anybody tell me why messi won 2019 and 2021 balon dor????like no logik.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣am laughing at all of ur comments 😂.. do u kno why? Because Messi will win the Ballon d'or...stop wasting ur time arguing 🤣🤣
Haaland clear
1.58 Goals in All competition✅
2.10 Assists✅
3.Premier League:Winner✅
4.premier league:Golden boot winner✅
5.UCL Winner✅
6.UCL:Golden boot winner✅
7.FA Cup Winner✅
8.Most Hatricks✅
9.Man city Top scorer✅
10.Overall Rating:-7.49✅
11.best headers key passes finishing ✅
12.Premier league Player of the season✅
13.Premier league Young player of the season✅
14.Most Goals in single Premier League season Ever✅
15.10 MOTM✅
16.premier league + Ucl Record breaker✅
17.UEFA Super cup🔜✅
18.#TREBLE🏆🏆🏆✅
19.5 goals glut in UCL✅
20.Club World Cup🔜✅
21.Quadruple🔜✅
22.10 MOTM in All competitions✅
So u think by winning things in the epl makes u the best??Dude,football exists outside the epl plus ur dude ghosted in some of the most important games of the season n was carried by his super team in those finals.Haaland is a nobody without KDB who is citys n the premiere league's best player.Haalands ghosting when it matters is why he will lose this balondor to Messi.
@@desmondachocky537 so What
can You Imagine Argentina Without Alvarez MacAlister Dibo Martinez Di maria Acuna common man don’t talk like brainless kids this is football A team game You need good players around you & teamwork ofcourse to Score And Win Matches This is not individual game Every player Has its own Special Role in a Team & except ucl Semi Final & final Haaland Did his best rest of the Matches You can’t deny that WTF Man do you think Scoring 50+ goals for your team is nothing🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😂☠️☠️😳😂😂
@@Dexter_37 Cry! He ain't winning the balondor,hahaha! Messi will.Factos!
@@desmondachocky537 ya now you can’t argue so You obv Come up With Cry comment I know you are a Brainless kid who started watching football From 2022 World Cup☠️
Ok Another Robbery In Ballond’or we will see it so what After All haaland will not be the first one At least he will join it with Robbed Lewendowski so now it will be Erling Robbed Haaland☠️☠️☠️☠️😂😂😂
#FACTOS
@@Dexter_37ithout Haaland City won 4 PL in 5 years... So it stands to reason that without him they still would have won the 5... In UCL, he ghosted the semis and in the finals he had one assist from Kevin De Bruyne, which if Lionel Messi had gotten that pass from De Bruyne, he surely would have scored it, but Haaland shot like a little girl. In FA Cup, he ghosted and Gundogan scored twice...
Its a popularity contest nowadays not a true reliction of who is the best. Erling scored 52 Goals in all comps, won the treble and broke so many records. But Messi won the world cup and people like him so they will just choose him.
This year for me is Halaand
Calling it right here, Julian Alvarez wins Ballon’Dor
Yup Julian Alvarez much more deserve because he won both trophies from Messi and Haaland he also give effective impact for every games to winning. 😌👌👌👌
You can’t win ballon dor as a bench warmer
@@kaylom3042 Are you serious? He sat on the bench for almost the entire season and did not score in the finals. Ballon D'or is not awarded by the number of trophies.
@@kaylom3042 Ballon d'Or is less about team trophies and more about individual performance and also goes beyond just goals; that's why Messi stands out.
@@lionelnkwenti7384individual haaland was way better and Messi is not even close
Can players in mls win?
No they say mls is for college students and retired players , this all made by fans not me
Álvarez won the World Cup and the Champions League
Stats, complexity and completeness are the measure of this trophy...the players' impact on the game etc. Messi is much better than Haaland even at 35 years old.
So why y’all didn’t give Jorginho the ballondor when he won euros an champions league, he played a big part an Messi had only won copa America , but y’all still give Messi . Yes Messi won World Cup but the best player is haaland
MESSI IS THE GOAT FOREVER ❤❤❤
Leo Messi is winning it all day. No doubt.
messi is the goat but he doesn't deserve this one, people like to pull out stats but forget he was playing in ligue 1 which we all agree is a farmers league yet Haaland plays in the prem then u want to compare the g/a, not goals, of which haaland has almost 20 more,this belongs to haaland if its fair. The very same messi who was booed by his own fans for underwhelming perfomances. The very same messi who u are counting 15 goals from internation friendlies, he scored 16 goals in ligue 1 a farmers league and 7 goals in world cup. The same messi who didn't do anything in the champions league, honestly don't count ligue 1 and trophee de champions because they were always going to win it, be fair bro haaland deserves it
Completely biased, football is more than just stats and Messi was a shadow of his former self this season. Most of his (and therefore, Argentina) goals on the WC were penalty kicks and won by his teammates. Messi disappeared until the whistle sounded to take the penalty. I love Messi's style of play and everything he has ever accomplished, but he doesn't deserve the Ballon D'Or this season, and this video is just pure propaganda from a Messi Fan Boy. Expected more from this chanell tbh
I'm a Messi fan and I agree also haaland is a beast he deserves it
You "love Messi" yet you say Messi ghosted without the penalty kicks ignoring the other reasons why Messi won the WC golden ball. His assists to Molina and Alvarez against Netherlands and Croatia were WORLD CLASS for a player at 35 years old. His dribbles were satisfying. Like in the game against Poland and against Australia, he was dominating. His passing was crisp like he created chances and started attacks for Argentina. There's a reason he won 5 Man of the match awards. You guys look at the scoresheet and you think that Messi did nothing but score pens. You lot need to actually watch matches. Haaland has scored a ridiculous amount of goals but apart from bringing the ball down, using his strength and some good passes, Haaland has done nothing for Man City other than goals. NOTHING. As much as I respect Haaland's personality and his humor, this is true and you need to accept that. If you watch the matches, you'd know. Messi has the most Man of the match awards out of ANYONE this season for club and I'm not even including World Cup, he was the first player to reach 20 goals and 20 assists this season again excluding World Cup, most assists in Ligue 1 and many more individual awards he won.
@@superlegend8118 Golden Ball's main criteria is goals scored, so most of them were penalties. But ok, you have the point about assists, even though most of the work was made by the goalscorers (imo). His game building isn't the same as it was, but it's unreal for a player of that age, and should be studied until the end of times. Now, these are the things that make Messi Messi, Haaland has his own set of skills that he can use perfectly. It tap ins were that easy, every striker would have 1000+ goals... haaland for me is clear this season. Messi had those stats in Ligue 1 but let's not forget that most of the assists were of Mbappe goals, some of them solo carried by Mbappe from the middle of the field... this season Messi didn't have a worldie goal in Ligue 1, and against those opponents it's kind of sad to think that a couple of years ago they would all get destroyed by Messi. That said, looking to what happened around them and the teams they played against, Haaland is clear, won everything he could have won this season
Check how many of haaland's goals were penalties this season and check total g+a of both without penalties for this season.....simple as that
Naturally mbappe plays as striker in osg because being the star of french national team he is favored by the french club and is good for sponsorships so he gets to play front and gather goals but messi showed inpressive g+a even playing mid field
@@shubhdhingra1719 Haaland scored 9 penalties all season. So it leaves another 43 open play goals. Messi scored 4 (5 if you count a friendly) penalties, all for Argentina, because he doesn't take them in PSG. That leaves another 21 goals. Haaland has more than double...
Erling Haaland vs Lionel Messi
Paris be like: wake up to reality😊
Haaland will win a ballon d’or 2023
FYI: Haaland played 55 games not 53
Friendlies are not counted.