After seeing these pieces of sculpture, I’d love a video on the actual production process behind them. How were these made? With what tools and for how many hours? How many men would have worked on them?
I took it in art school. You can search stone carving or even take a class at some community colleges. Kind of beyond the scope if ToldInStone. It’s a subtractive technique, sculptors start with more forgiving materials. The carving isn’t the hard part, understanding the shapes and gesture is the demanding part.
I did learn from my art history class that many of the deep grooves and recesses in the carvings and bass reliefs were done using a drill to first remove some material
Palazzo Massimo is one of my favourite museum regarding the Roman civilization mostly from Rome, I highly recommend to visit it. My favourite bronze is the magnificent "Boxer at Rest" a highly realistic Hellenistic statue. Truly, in my opinion, one of the masterpiece in their period. Among many very interesting artifacts is, as you stated, the beautiful painted garden from the villa of Livia unfortunately it was badly mishandled suffering serious damage. Good job again as always 👍👍👍
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when you talked about Greek sculptures shaking off the stiffness as artistic techniques advanced, it dawned on me just how lively and expressive these sculptures are compared those ive seen from earlier in time and/or other cultures
@@user-pf4tn2rl9n Indian art is a wonderful part of humanity's heritage, but it must be conceded that Greek stone sculptures predate most analogous specimens from the subcontinent. That is to say, Greek art is not derivative of Indian art--indeed, Hellenistic influence on Indian sculpture is an uncontested fact of art history.
@@user-pf4tn2rl9n All the sites and styles you cite are indeed extraordinary. There's no question of the richness and accomplishment of Indian art, and doubtlessly much of what was produced before the third century before Christ has vanished due to having been rendered in perishable materials (such as the wooden palaces of Pataliputra). My only point of contention is that Greek influence upon Indian art and architecture is demonstrable and historically sound. Whether one prefers one legacy over the other, either in aesthetic terms or technical expertise, is a matter of personal taste and opinion (of course, I don't see any reason to pit these two remarkable iterations of collective human genius against each other).
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Looks like another great museum that I have missed. I was in Rome for a week and in Naples - Sorrento for another. I'm going to have to use your videos to make a bucket list and go back.
It is a department of the National Museum of Rome, just opposite of Termini main railroad station and the Diocletian baths .. when I was there, the complete 1st floor with the best artefacts was closed, either because of Corona or because it is Italy. where
Thanks toldinstone! Essentially you are giving away a graduate level course in Art History for free. You work for a university don't you? Aren't you worried about your boss finding out? Love your book.
The sarcophagus presented at the end is in my opinion by far the most interesting object. Not only for artistic reasons. It gives us a glimpse of the imagery associated with Christianity in that period. And we shouldn't omit the fact that all these statues and sculptures were originally painted in color and as life like as they could be. A very important aspect when appreciating roman art.
Ancient Greco-Roman sculpture and architecture was incomplete without added color, and were always fashioned with that finishing paint in mind, but I do wonder if some of the surviving marble specimens might be unfinished projects or workshop models that never saw the final applied paint that adorned completed and publicly presentable works.
@@barrymoore4470 It is a possibility and it can be determined using the same technology that helped historians and archeologists to find out about the painting of the statues in the first place. 🙂
The Palazzo Massimo is an outstanding facility that should not be missed by anyone interested in Roman art and life. Not only is the collection staggering but the museum is much less frequently visited than sites closer to the Forum. My wife and I went on a weekday afternoon but often had rooms to ourselves. Being able to examine the Hellenistic bronzes statues of the General (shown in the video) and the Boxer from inches away was but one of a many experiences from this building that I won’t forget. Anyone visiting Rome should set aside a day to see this place, the remains of the Thermae of Diocletian and numerous other sites in the supposedly ‘uninteresting’ area near Termini Station.
Artists always gravitate towards where the money and power reside. In the Mediterranean world from the first century before Christ on through at least the third century or so of the Christian era, that center of wealth and power was Rome.
Garrett, your book title is a new favorite ! Another is, What Time Is the Next Swan ? ( out of print) A hilarious account of the antics he observed while on and backstage by Peter Ustinov, raconteur, renowned author, and acclaimed actor on the stage and screen in the 60s and 70s. Read one of his works, a keen understanding of rhythm, timing and syntactic devices, erudite, always a nice break, and you will enjoy it as much as I hope to enjoy your's. Pat
When in Rome I visited the Capitoline Museums, the Vatican Museums, took a tour of the forum and Colosseum, walked over Ponte Fabricius, went through the Doria Pamphili Gallery, the Pantheon, and probably a dozen Churches of note. How did I miss the Palazzo Massimo?
Why do you think the realism of Roman sculpture during the Republican and first part of the Imperial Era degenerated in such a distinctive way; with work becoming cruder and proportions becoming so awkward with oversized heads?
The "decline" didn't really take place until the late third century. I'm actually planning a video on why late antique art is so different from its classical predecessor. The short answer boils down to a breakdown in sculptural expertise during the crisis of the third century and growing interest in more stylized modes of artistic representation.
Magnificent wall paintings. I had a friend painter who, years ago, tried to revive the practice. It didn't work. I suppose he to compete with very good wallpapers offering the same type of natural landscapes.
I've always thought that both Greek and Roman bronze and marble sculptures were amazing. I know that lots of marble sculptures have paint pigments still on them. Do we know if the sarcophaguses were painted as well? I'd love to see a rendering of the Portonaccio Sarcophagus with color.
Check out the (Etruscan) Sarcophagus of Seianti Hanunia Tlesnasa in the British Museum for an idea of what a fully-painted sarcophagus would have looked like. I've never seen a Roman example with preserved pigment, but I believe it was standard practice to paint them.
@@toldinstone you're right! It's beautiful! She appears to have been sculpted as she really looked. It looks as if every square inch was covered in paint. I love the little patch of blue under her left arm. I wonder if that was the color of her dress or something else happened.
@toldinstone can you please make a video explaining law and order in ancient Rome. Like if my house was robbed, who would i go to for help? how would i get the robber arrested if i knew who it was?
Another great video. The orant posture of Jesus is also a give away. Would love to see more examples/discussions about the transition to Christian art.
I wonder if their are lost roman masterpieces that ranged outside the usual poses and expressions like the works of later artists like Franz Xaver Messerschmidt and Joseph Ducreux.
There are whole mountains worth of art lost to the depredations of time. All ancient works of art we see are but a fraction of what was originally created, and create a skewed view of what those earlier peoples saw and enjoyed.
2:12 - `ROMAN GENERAL' OR A RIACE GREEK BRONZE WITH HEAD REPLACED? The naked pose holding a spear is nearly identical to two 6'6" Greek bronzes found in the Mediterranean in 1972. The Roman General's HEAD looks disproportionally SMALL to the body and neck. The bronze aging patina appears more colorful on the body than the face. As if the original LARGER, bearded, helmeted Greek head was cut off and a newer, more `Roman' head welded on.
Strange as it seems, I have noticed that the second toe on so much greek statuary is longer than the big toe, but that is not the case in Roman statuary. Why is that? I have heard some pretty wild explanations LOL.
Noted that as well. Some years ago I went to the Getty Museum in Los Angeles, where they had chronological displays of art from about 1200AD to modern. There's a very definite peak around 1700, and decline afterward, with that decline strongly marked by ever-cruder brushstrokes, fading pigments, and cracked varnish that gets worse and worse as the creation dates approach the present -- exactly contiguous with the destruction of the European apprenticeship system, and aging out of the last to be trained under that system. (Another similar display of historical furniture confirmed that impression.) Deduced that "modernist" painting is less deliberate style than incompetence and ignorance of technique. Given the state of Rome by the 400s, I expect their artisans were experiencing a similar loss of talent and expertise.
Precisely which Palazzo Massimo is the one you are referring to? On Google I found 3 + a bonus. I want to visit this museum the next time I'm in Rome. Thank you. Great topic.
Many marble statues from this period have those supports. Bronze sculpture can be cast without them because the material is stronger. Usually photographers purposely frame a photo of these marbles where the supports aren’t visible. You will also notice the tree stump. A discus thrower obviously is on a field nowhere near tree stumps. The sculptor striving for realism in this sculpture had to compromise it to support the weight and form of the marble athlete. The Bronze discobolus following the marble in this video was cast freestanding without the “stump.”
if anyone wants to invest in art, as an artist my suggestion is to contact your local art school's student association and find out when there are shows, or show and sales, you will find art you like and can keep in your home that has just as much chance as a investment companies choice to gain value, and you will be giving help to an artist or artists you like and can have a relationship with. rant over.
I was lucky enough to see them when I was in Rome last year. I hope to make a video on the topic, though I'm a bit worried about using my pictures, since there are strange copyright restrictions...
@@toldinstone I'd love to watch that video but I think you are right about the copyright issues. In fact, I thought it was forbbiden to take pictures from the exhibition.
@@carleslazaro6117 It is absurd for modern entities to be able to copyright ancient works of art they did nothing to create, but that is a sad reality of our present time.
Most marble statues were painted, and it's occasionally possible (thanks to traces of pigment) to reconstruct their original appearance. There's a great illustration - from, I think, an old issue of National Geographic - showing the Column of Trajan in its spectacular original color.
This is pure speculation, but I think the garden would have been even more amazing. The Romans who owned the murals, would likely also have been able to afford the plants depicted, and caged birds like the ones in the mural. Fruits from the real trees could have been enjoyed in the fresco room, and perhaps was within earshot of the caged birds. Thus, not only would the room have looked like a garden, it would have smelled and sounded like one too. Again, this is speculation I have nothing to back this up.
What hasn’t been mentioned, the extra posts on the disc thrower are to help support it, because the Greek marble was more strong than the Roman marble, at least in this time.
Hey Garret, thanks for doing the video, as usual, but please be advised that the fine art market you're suggesting people get involved in here through your sponsor is rife with fraud, tax evasion, and money laundering. I don't know their angle, but practically guaranteed this service is trying to bilk the unsuspecting public out of money in one way or another to push some billionaire's tax evasion scam. Please don't ask ordinary people to get involved in this service.
@@countofmontecristo8369 I doubt Garret cares. His pocket has been lined. I used to respect him, and unlike the money he made, my disappointment in him will not evaporate.
You made specific allegations without offering any proof, and then admitted you don't know what their 'angle' is. I wonder what your 'angle' is because you don't have any credibility, in other words...you're full of shit.
Stupid question, but were the hands on the statue broken off and lost or were they just sculpted that way as sort of an abstract piece? I really enjoyed this and look forward to your upcoming video on mosaics. Thank you.
Can you please make a video exploring how Roman Christians felt about their empire killing their Messiah? Assuming there's enough material on that for a video, I've just always been curious.
The Gospels actually take care to absolve the Roman state of Jesus' execution. That is the whole point of the detail of Pontius Pilate washing his hands, literally, of the whole affair, and caving to the Jerusalem crowd's demands for Jesus' death. The Gospels pretty explicitly blame the Jews for Jesus' death, which is of course an absurd fiction, as the execution could never have been ordered and carried out without Roman authority. This absolution of Roman blame and imputation of guilt upon the Jews seems to grow out of the phase of Christianity in which the Gospels were composed, when the movement was moving away from its Jewish roots and becoming an overwhelmingly Gentile enterprise.
What we don't have a lot of are Roman paintings they did on wooden canvas. There are some surviving pieces that are comparable to rennaissance realism. the best pieces were done this way and it's a tragedy. Their veristic marble busts are INSANELY realistic. Even in the modern era busts weren't made with that level of realism.
The ending christian things are impressive. They went from nude gods and kings to reborn Christians within a few generations right before our eyes with statues and paints.
After seeing these pieces of sculpture, I’d love a video on the actual production process behind them. How were these made? With what tools and for how many hours? How many men would have worked on them?
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I took it in art school. You can search stone carving or even take a class at some community colleges. Kind of beyond the scope if ToldInStone. It’s a subtractive technique, sculptors start with more forgiving materials.
The carving isn’t the hard part, understanding the shapes and gesture is the demanding part.
I agree
I did learn from my art history class that many of the deep grooves and recesses in the carvings and bass reliefs were done using a drill to first remove some material
Sculpture is so amazing. The proportions defying gravity. The sculptors really cared.
This is my favorite RUclips channel. Not only is it educational, but it offers something a lot of other teachers don’t. Perspective.
Roman art is highly underrated. Also, it`s a shame that most bronze statues of that era have been melted down.
Thank God marble can’t be melted down!
Underrated by who?
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Palazzo Massimo is one of my favourite museum regarding the Roman civilization mostly from Rome, I highly recommend to visit it. My favourite bronze is the magnificent "Boxer at Rest" a highly realistic Hellenistic statue. Truly, in my opinion, one of the masterpiece in their period. Among many very interesting artifacts is, as you stated, the beautiful painted garden from the villa of Livia unfortunately it was badly mishandled suffering serious damage. Good job again as always 👍👍👍
The frescoes from the Villa Livia on the top floor of Palazzo Massimo are stunning and often overlooked.
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when you talked about Greek sculptures shaking off the stiffness as artistic techniques advanced, it dawned on me just how lively and expressive these sculptures are compared those ive seen from earlier in time and/or other cultures
@@user-pf4tn2rl9n great another indian with superiority complex
@@user-pf4tn2rl9n Indian art is a wonderful part of humanity's heritage, but it must be conceded that Greek stone sculptures predate most analogous specimens from the subcontinent. That is to say, Greek art is not derivative of Indian art--indeed, Hellenistic influence on Indian sculpture is an uncontested fact of art history.
@@user-pf4tn2rl9n All the sites and styles you cite are indeed extraordinary. There's no question of the richness and accomplishment of Indian art, and doubtlessly much of what was produced before the third century before Christ has vanished due to having been rendered in perishable materials (such as the wooden palaces of Pataliputra). My only point of contention is that Greek influence upon Indian art and architecture is demonstrable and historically sound. Whether one prefers one legacy over the other, either in aesthetic terms or technical expertise, is a matter of personal taste and opinion (of course, I don't see any reason to pit these two remarkable iterations of collective human genius against each other).
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I was with you in the very beginning and I told you to just keep going the way you're doing and now you have reached 200k. I am very proud of you
That's very kind of you to say
As a hobbyist sound designer, engineer, producer and all that madness I just have to say I appreciate the 100% lack of music. Also, the writing, your cadence and your humor all put together are great. Stay up bro, and keep uploading! Coffee, a blunt, and Toldinstone are how I start my mornings lol
Low key love how the sponsors are always well paired 😂 Hair growth? Art selling? Nice lol
The best part about your channel is that there is no long winded into or plea to smash the like button, just takes us right into the action
Looks like another great museum that I have missed. I was in Rome for a week and in Naples - Sorrento for another. I'm going to have to use your videos to make a bucket list and go back.
It is a department of the National Museum of Rome, just opposite of Termini main railroad station and the Diocletian baths .. when I was there, the complete 1st floor with the best artefacts was closed, either because of Corona or because it is Italy. where
The archaeological museum in Naples is not to be missed.
Thanks toldinstone! Essentially you are giving away a graduate level course in Art History for free. You work for a university don't you? Aren't you worried about your boss finding out?
Love your book.
nope. he doesnt work anymore at uni. his vids make wanna see all this with my own eyes one day.
Your pronunciation is very smooth and timely.
Woke up to a new credit in my audible account. It’s about time. 😈 Naked statues here I come
The sarcophagus presented at the end is in my opinion by far the most interesting object. Not only for artistic reasons. It gives us a glimpse of the imagery associated with Christianity in that period.
And we shouldn't omit the fact that all these statues and sculptures were originally painted in color and as life like as they could be. A very important aspect when appreciating roman art.
Ancient Greco-Roman sculpture and architecture was incomplete without added color, and were always fashioned with that finishing paint in mind, but I do wonder if some of the surviving marble specimens might be unfinished projects or workshop models that never saw the final applied paint that adorned completed and publicly presentable works.
@@barrymoore4470 It is a possibility and it can be determined using the same technology that helped historians and archeologists to find out about the painting of the statues in the first place. 🙂
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The Palazzo Massimo is an outstanding facility that should not be missed by anyone interested in Roman art and life. Not only is the collection staggering but the museum is much less frequently visited than sites closer to the Forum. My wife and I went on a weekday afternoon but often had rooms to ourselves. Being able to examine the Hellenistic bronzes statues of the General (shown in the video) and the Boxer from inches away was but one of a many experiences from this building that I won’t forget. Anyone visiting Rome should set aside a day to see this place, the remains of the Thermae of Diocletian and numerous other sites in the supposedly ‘uninteresting’ area near Termini Station.
Interesting that Greek sculptors were working in Rome.
Your videos are always interesting and of value.
Thank you so much for posting them.
Artists always gravitate towards where the money and power reside. In the Mediterranean world from the first century before Christ on through at least the third century or so of the Christian era, that center of wealth and power was Rome.
Thank you, Garrett, these videos are wonderful. DA
Garrett, your book title is a new favorite ! Another is, What Time Is the Next Swan ? ( out of print) A hilarious account of the antics he observed while on and backstage by Peter Ustinov, raconteur, renowned author, and acclaimed actor on the stage and screen in the 60s and 70s. Read one of his works, a keen understanding of rhythm, timing and syntactic devices, erudite, always a nice break, and you will enjoy it as much as I hope to enjoy your's. Pat
Congrats on 200k!
When in Rome I visited the Capitoline Museums, the Vatican Museums, took a tour of the forum and Colosseum, walked over Ponte Fabricius, went through the Doria Pamphili Gallery, the Pantheon, and probably a dozen Churches of note. How did I miss the Palazzo Massimo?
You missed 100 other amazing things, they just have too much. Just go back 10 years later for another round
I thought I’d seen all of Rome in multiple visits but I missed this one as well
Love all your videos!
Just picked up your book, waiting for it to be delivered! Thanks Doc
This is the content we all crave. Well done! Well done! 🍸
Another superb presentation.
Why do you think the realism of Roman sculpture during the Republican and first part of the Imperial Era degenerated in such a distinctive way; with work becoming cruder and proportions becoming so awkward with oversized heads?
The "decline" didn't really take place until the late third century. I'm actually planning a video on why late antique art is so different from its classical predecessor. The short answer boils down to a breakdown in sculptural expertise during the crisis of the third century and growing interest in more stylized modes of artistic representation.
interesting as always with this scholar. i enjoyed a lot his book as well as his History of Rome in 15 buildings.
I've got my first trip to Rome coming up but I am freaking out because I only have 3 days and there is so much to do there.
3 days too short to enjiy thr remains of ancient rome or the medieval rome to rennaissance rome.
Great content! These videos are very fascinating! Thank you for sharing your passion
Your coherent, researched presentations soar above many other vlogs. Thank you, they are much appreciated.
Amazing realism of the face and character, better than today s efforts!
Magnificent wall paintings. I had a friend painter who, years ago, tried to revive the practice. It didn't work. I suppose he to compete with very good wallpapers offering the same type of natural landscapes.
Excellent! Thank you!
We’re gonna need to photoshop Garrett’s head on famous works
I'm always looking for Instagram content...
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Those are some beautiful pieces.
Great content m I'm fascinated
And now, the Naked Statues episode you've all been waiting for… LOL
The real naked statues episode was 5 months ago: "Why are so many Greek and Roman statues naked?"
Loving the video and also comments. Lots of ideas on what to see in Rome
I've always thought that both Greek and Roman bronze and marble sculptures were amazing. I know that lots of marble sculptures have paint pigments still on them. Do we know if the sarcophaguses were painted as well? I'd love to see a rendering of the Portonaccio Sarcophagus with color.
Check out the (Etruscan) Sarcophagus of Seianti Hanunia Tlesnasa in the British Museum for an idea of what a fully-painted sarcophagus would have looked like. I've never seen a Roman example with preserved pigment, but I believe it was standard practice to paint them.
@@toldinstone you're right! It's beautiful! She appears to have been sculpted as she really looked. It looks as if every square inch was covered in paint. I love the little patch of blue under her left arm. I wonder if that was the color of her dress or something else happened.
@toldinstone can you please make a video explaining law and order in ancient Rome. Like if my house was robbed, who would i go to for help? how would i get the robber arrested if i knew who it was?
It is hard to see any of these without finding the display is "closed for renovation". Plan your visit!
Thanks!
That's very generous!
Another great video. The orant posture of Jesus is also a give away. Would love to see more examples/discussions about the transition to Christian art.
This was a lovely video. My thanks!
Your oratory skills certainly gives the impression of someone educated directly by the Greek masters!
This is going to make me sound so much smarter than "everything was a Greek Copy! Nothing original except concrete and arches!" Thanks 🙏
Thank you for another excellent video. Keep up the great work!
I wonder if their are lost roman masterpieces that ranged outside the usual poses and expressions like the works of later artists like Franz Xaver Messerschmidt and Joseph Ducreux.
for sure.
There are whole mountains worth of art lost to the depredations of time. All ancient works of art we see are but a fraction of what was originally created, and create a skewed view of what those earlier peoples saw and enjoyed.
This is wonderful. Thank you
Those sculptures are crazy detailed.
Great job. Thank you
Wonderful and informative video like always
8:56 Jesus as the Pontifex Maximus! Nice!
Well I guess I’ll have to go back to Rome and look at these masterpieces
I really enjoyed this! I’d love to see you do more art videos!
2:12 - `ROMAN GENERAL' OR A RIACE GREEK BRONZE WITH HEAD REPLACED? The naked pose holding a spear is nearly identical to two 6'6" Greek bronzes found in the Mediterranean in 1972. The Roman General's HEAD looks disproportionally SMALL to the body and neck. The bronze aging patina appears more colorful on the body than the face. As if the original LARGER, bearded, helmeted Greek head was cut off and a newer, more `Roman' head welded on.
Classical Roman art has no peers. Imagine living surrounded by all this.
BTW note that the garden fresco gets perspective correct.
Always a pleasure to enjoy learning With one of your videos. Thank you, keep it up
could you do an in depth video of Maximunus Thrax, with discussion of the likelihood of his height and other speculation?
Strange as it seems, I have noticed that the second toe on so much greek statuary is longer than the big toe, but that is not the case in Roman statuary. Why is that? I have heard some pretty wild explanations LOL.
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Thanks for the video. Late antique artists had less skill than the earlier artists. No excuses.
Noted that as well.
Some years ago I went to the Getty Museum in Los Angeles, where they had chronological displays of art from about 1200AD to modern. There's a very definite peak around 1700, and decline afterward, with that decline strongly marked by ever-cruder brushstrokes, fading pigments, and cracked varnish that gets worse and worse as the creation dates approach the present -- exactly contiguous with the destruction of the European apprenticeship system, and aging out of the last to be trained under that system. (Another similar display of historical furniture confirmed that impression.) Deduced that "modernist" painting is less deliberate style than incompetence and ignorance of technique.
Given the state of Rome by the 400s, I expect their artisans were experiencing a similar loss of talent and expertise.
@@Reziac That's correct. Modern "Art" - some imagination, with little skill or craft.
You should make a video about the sacred roman chickens
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Precisely which Palazzo Massimo is the one you are referring to? On Google I found 3 + a bonus. I want to visit this museum the next time I'm in Rome. Thank you. Great topic.
0:59 I've never seen an of image that sculpture with that portruding block from the leg to the hand.
Many marble statues from this period have those supports. Bronze sculpture can be cast without them because the material is stronger. Usually photographers purposely frame a photo of these marbles where the supports aren’t visible. You will also notice the tree stump. A discus thrower obviously is on a field nowhere near tree stumps. The sculptor striving for realism in this sculpture had to compromise it to support the weight and form of the marble athlete. The Bronze discobolus following the marble in this video was cast freestanding without the “stump.”
if anyone wants to invest in art, as an artist my suggestion is to contact your local art school's student association and find out when there are shows, or show and sales, you will find art you like and can keep in your home that has just as much chance as a investment companies choice to gain value, and you will be giving help to an artist or artists you like and can have a relationship with. rant over.
Who ever commissioned that landscape has good taste
Can you tell us more about the museum?
I dream to visit one day the Torlonia marbles, have you seen them? I think they deserve not a video but a full new channel just for them!
I was lucky enough to see them when I was in Rome last year. I hope to make a video on the topic, though I'm a bit worried about using my pictures, since there are strange copyright restrictions...
Thank you for pointing out this collection!
@@toldinstone I'd love to watch that video but I think you are right about the copyright issues. In fact, I thought it was forbbiden to take pictures from the exhibition.
@@carleslazaro6117 It is absurd for modern entities to be able to copyright ancient works of art they did nothing to create, but that is a sad reality of our present time.
Loving the book so far. If you like his vids definitely checkout the book. It’a like a buffet of the content in his videos!
Great video.
Are there any work on how these looked originally? I believe they were painted?
Most marble statues were painted, and it's occasionally possible (thanks to traces of pigment) to reconstruct their original appearance. There's a great illustration - from, I think, an old issue of National Geographic - showing the Column of Trajan in its spectacular original color.
You say that the Hellenistic Prince was part of “one of Rome’s great public collections”. What do you mean by “public collection”?
Can you do a video on how the aliens helped build the Pantheon, and Flavian Amphitheater?
Kwee - what's good y'all!!
This is pure speculation, but I think the garden would have been even more amazing. The Romans who owned the murals, would likely also have been able to afford the plants depicted, and caged birds like the ones in the mural. Fruits from the real trees could have been enjoyed in the fresco room, and perhaps was within earshot of the caged birds. Thus, not only would the room have looked like a garden, it would have smelled and sounded like one too. Again, this is speculation I have nothing to back this up.
Make video about how romans moved the egyptian obelisks to Rome what was their technology?
What hasn’t been mentioned, the extra posts on the disc thrower are to help support it, because the Greek marble was more strong than the Roman marble, at least in this time.
These romans were jacked af
Were sarcophagi displayed before death, or were there tomb tours? I'm wondering why anyone below emperor went to so much trouble and expense.
Why do the faces and heads appear so small to me in relation to the bodies?
I wonder why not more viewers are courious and care about Roman statues
Hey Garret, thanks for doing the video, as usual, but please be advised that the fine art market you're suggesting people get involved in here through your sponsor is rife with fraud, tax evasion, and money laundering. I don't know their angle, but practically guaranteed this service is trying to bilk the unsuspecting public out of money in one way or another to push some billionaire's tax evasion scam. Please don't ask ordinary people to get involved in this service.
Everyone should assume all ads are selling garbage or scams until proven otherwise. This particular ad is highly suspect.
@@countofmontecristo8369 I doubt Garret cares. His pocket has been lined. I used to respect him, and unlike the money he made, my disappointment in him will not evaporate.
Masterworks is perfectly legitimate. I would not have promoted them if I believed otherwise.
You made specific allegations without offering any proof, and then admitted you don't know what their 'angle' is. I wonder what your 'angle' is because you don't have any credibility, in other words...you're full of shit.
@@rustyshackleford5285 People are allowed to have ads. dont like it - dont buy it. Dont tell people what to do, your opinion is of no value sry.
Stupid question, but were the hands on the statue broken off and lost or were they just sculpted that way as sort of an abstract piece? I really enjoyed this and look forward to your upcoming video on mosaics. Thank you.
Broken off and lost. The Cycladic figurines of the Bronze Age Aegean are the only real "abstract figural art" produced by the ancient Mediterranean.
@@toldinstone Thanks. I'll look for the cycladic figurines. Really beautiful to see and I appreciate your explanations.
The sarcophagus reliefs.
I cant decide if Augustus as Pontifex Maximus or Augustus of Prima Porta is my favorite.
Can you please make a video exploring how Roman Christians felt about their empire killing their Messiah? Assuming there's enough material on that for a video, I've just always been curious.
The Gospels actually take care to absolve the Roman state of Jesus' execution. That is the whole point of the detail of Pontius Pilate washing his hands, literally, of the whole affair, and caving to the Jerusalem crowd's demands for Jesus' death. The Gospels pretty explicitly blame the Jews for Jesus' death, which is of course an absurd fiction, as the execution could never have been ordered and carried out without Roman authority. This absolution of Roman blame and imputation of guilt upon the Jews seems to grow out of the phase of Christianity in which the Gospels were composed, when the movement was moving away from its Jewish roots and becoming an overwhelmingly Gentile enterprise.
What we don't have a lot of are Roman paintings they did on wooden canvas. There are some surviving pieces that are comparable to rennaissance realism. the best pieces were done this way and it's a tragedy. Their veristic marble busts are INSANELY realistic. Even in the modern era busts weren't made with that level of realism.
Most of the great sculpture from the Greek and Roman world was wrongly destroyed. These remnants make clear what was forever lost.
@@user-pf4tn2rl9n christians duhhh
The ending christian things are impressive. They went from nude gods and kings to reborn Christians within a few generations right before our eyes with statues and paints.
Is it just me, or does the Hellenistic Prince kinda look like Marlin Brando?