New Lamborghini Huracán STO - is it faster than a McLaren P1? | evo LEADERBOARD
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2022
- It's the most extreme Lamborghini Huracán to date and also happens to be one of our favourites, with its mix of Super Trofeo race tech mixed with that brilliant V10. But how quickly will this 2021 eCoty podium finisher lap Anglesey's Coastal circuit? We sent Jethro Bovingdon to find out.
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Probably lost half a second with hitting the rev limiter with every upshift...
Yeah I was wondering about that too.. annoys me 😂
@@thecarguy3483 Half a second??? Try 2 seconds. Poor driving. You will not come across any competent driver bouncing off the limiter if they're trying to set a fast time. No idea what he was doing.
He hit the limiter 3 times in the entire lap, calm down
@@heavensent7183 correct. The difference of half a second a lap....
@@Dannyjones1yeah, I can get behind that. 2 seconds tho is absurd.
If I was Lamborghini I'd be pretty upset about that lap as you dropped at least a second if not more. Bouncing the rev limiter, braking early, missed apexes, failure to get on the power early enough... I bet Sutcliffe could slice a load off that time.
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Who cares about the lap time? We’re you not LISTENING?!
@@karlsumner5594 Well, lambo care obviously. Or they wouldnt go about privatising race circuits like the Nordschleife for a fast lap to impress would be buyers.
Otherwise im completely in agreement. Cars or especially supercars really are not anywhere near optimised for performance around a track and thus laptimes are pointless. Look how much faster a real track car (BAC mono) is.
That being said, considering 99% of these cars will never go anywhere near a track, all they need to do is look and sound pretty.
You don't title a segment, "is it faster than a mclaren p1?" and not care about the lap time...@@karlsumner5594
It would have definitely beaten the P1 with more efficient gear changes but like you said, does it really matter? ;-)
it can't even beat 720s. joke italian
@@bigbus5845 and the SF90 just polverized the 650S tuned called P1. Or we could talk about how much faster are the Pista than others.
@@bigbus5845 I'd take an NA V10 over an industrial V8 with no character, but so would you, sat in your mums basement
@@Mr995pippo I’d like to see the pista vs the 765LT!
@@bigbus5845 on a track like the nurburgring it can. and don’t forget the 720s is far from entry level mclaren, this is a track focused version of the entry level Lamborghini
curious what it would do on a set of the aforementioned cup 2 R's, even if they arent available as "off the lot" equipment
These comparisons are almost never fair in that respect. All the lap times should be on the same tire. I know that's nearly impossible considering that EVO doesn't own these cars, but that time sheet is essentially worthless when you consider that a proper tire would net, at least, 2-3 seconds a lap.
@@bobdobbs69 some even 5 seconds. If the Viper ACR had tires like these modern compounds it could still hang with the likes of the STO.
@@bobdobbs69 Not to mention real lap time comparisons must be done at the highest level. Lets not forget that these are not PRO drivers. In fact considering the way he was bouncing off the track limiter, i doubt his ability to consistently set a decent pace.
No doubt also different cars and setups require different driving styles. A traction heavy AWD lambo will require a different approach than a RWD light mclaren for example.
But you know, people see laptimes and automatically think it is above reproach.
488 Pista still the most impressive. It's a relatively normal supercar that destroys everything that isn't a race prepped or a tube chassis car.
The Pista is far from normal, but I get what you’re saying lol. Having as much track hardware that it does, the engine that was essentially ripped straight from the race car, and putting down the kind of lap times that it does puts the Pista faaaar above the “normal” category.
When you’re out there beating GT2 RS times, are neck and neck with the 765, and are significantly faster than the best performing Huracan that money can buy, you are a pretty *abnormal* super car.
@@danieldickerson4838 well, it’s not like it was that limited in production. I think Ferrari made over 3000 and it’s still just RWD and weighs about 3400 lbs. Pretty amazing lap times shows just how balanced it must be. I suspect the F8 is probably faster, but I didn’t see it on EVO’s lap times.
Ferrari is just meh .. nothing interesting
But Ferrari come with the whole support team when their cars are tested here by EVO, while other manufacturers just throw the keys at them and here you go. Of course, a prepared car with several sets of tires will show better results.
@@ArtVandelayOfficial SF90, 812 competitizone, and 488 Pista are nothing interesting? 🤦♂️ Ferrari makes waaay more productions cars then Lamborghini
YESSS More Jethro, more N/A beautys and more gems like this one.
Huge thanks from yours biggest Brazilian fan🇧🇷.
Better tyres and better driving (a lot of late gear changes, I believe) could take more than 1 second from the lap time. However, it's a moot, as going faster is not necessarily having more fun, which is precisely the point of the whole video.
So happy to see another video with Jethro. Thanks for entertaining my evening, you are definitely one of the best car magazine journalist together with your friend CH 😉
Very nice sound, but agree with some comments, the car doesn't look sexy. The 458 Speciale remains my unicorn !
Add Henry Catchpole and you've got the three best Auto journalists
the STO's tires are supposed to be as grippy as a Trofeo R and a Cup 2R. Also since youre comparing tenths here and there, every time you bounce off the limiter is time thats wasted.
lol couldn't agree more. he kept bouncing off the limiter.
Usually they make few laps to achive their goal - fastest lap time for each car. We do not know wheter the best result is connected with the end of that video.
They aren't as aggressive as a Cup 2 R, mentioned in some STO Reviews. They are on par with a normal Cup 2
Supposed to be as grippy? C'mon, man. That's just pure speculation. Considering how many different factors there are in a tire (compound, treadwear, heat cycling, size, and especially, tread pattern, etc.) it's basically impossible to say one tire is as grippy as another without actual data on the tire which manufacturers NEVER release to the public.
@@bobdobbs69 actually apples to apples test using the Potenza race tire were done and compared to Cup2, Trofeo R and Eagle f1 supersport R, and the potenza came out on top in every dry grip measure. Just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it hasnt been done.
Also obviously when I say "as grippy" I mean tires in the same sizes and at the very least same amount of usage/wear, introducing that as a factor makes no sense tbh.
Imagine EVO with Jethro Bovingdon, Steve Sutcliffe, Tiff Needle, Henry Catchpole, and Chris Harris as the only car reviewers. These guys are the only ones that really know how to review cars.
You need to watch throttle house
@@-_--le3zk it’s not the same because throttle house jokes around.
@@vble2337 so who wants extremely serious videos?they give you proper journalism and they make videos fun,i guess the last part is the whole reason why we watch videos in first place,but hey everyone has their own opinion
You literally described Evo Magazine back in like 2008-2014.
@@augustortiz the sad thing is that the cars which I associate with this golden era of EVO and which I find the most appealing to a driver mainly stayed back in those years :’(
Always been a 911 guy, feeling Lambos are way too flamboyant. But the STO is the one I would love to own one day.
911 is too common for me
So happy to see Jethro driving 😁
Come on Jethro, no way is that full send, 71mph min apex speed through turn 1... to put that in perspective I take turn 1 @ 70mph in a 2015 stock GT-R on Toyo R888R tyres...
Actually you should be quicker than this Lambo in this turn since the gtr has better front end grip (known for that due to weight distribution), wider front tires and Toyos are also way more stickier than these Bridgestones - so you certainly have room for improvement here :))
@@coolguy_2997 Hmm not sure I agree a GT-R should be quicker through here. Physics suggests otherwise. It's 400kgs heavier, narrower track, higher CoG, front engined so will have a significantly worse polar moment of inertia, is capable of considerably less lateral acceleration, and I doubt there'd be much (if any) difference in coefficient of friction between a Toyo R888R (which is a pretty entry level trackday tyre) and Bridgestones 'custom potenza race tyre'. Watching the onboard it simply looks like a poor line/technique through Turn 1... Turn in is way too early, car is loitering on the apex and understeering as a result, revs holding on part throttle well before the apex and for 2-3 seconds which suggests little/zero trail braking.... Anything mid engined will want to understeer, the way to counteract that is 1) late braking 2) late turn in and 3) trail braking deep into the apex... from the onboard the driver isn't doing any of these 3 things. Oh yeah and hitting the limiter all the way down the back straight lol, this is a poorly driven lap IMHO. (And turn in/apex at T7 'Peel' looks at least 3 meters too early)
awesome car, the design and sound will make this thing age better than most faster cars
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for not drifting this beautiful sports car like a hooligan. It’s so nice to see someone drive properly fast for a change.
Pretty sure all the drifting you see in videos are for the looks (also some cars are just fun to drift in)
Those stickers are the worst contribution to car design in history. I've not seen a single STO with them that looked good, while every car without them looks bloody fantastic.
Lamborghini keeps doing this tacky stuff, I wonder if their customers are actually into it?
But, yeah...not for my taste, personally.
Have you guys driven the Viper ACR around the same track? If yes, what time did you get?
I would love to see a leaderboard test of the updated BAC Mono.
Long live the V10!!!!
Now that is a car film!!! Bravo Evo, bravo Jethro!
Finally a good car! I hate turbo, hibrid, diesel and electrics! My money is going NA or supercharged
The ST0 is missing 650PS(125PS per litre)/600Nm(443ft.lbs, std. awd TQ), a 8700rpm redline like the Audi R8, a stronger rear differential/constant velocity joints, ect. and 265/35r20 on 9.5's and 325/30r20 on 12's.
Man someone loves the sound of that rev limiter
Looks like a concept car they decided to actually build 👏🏾
Jethro, please come back europe, and I dont care what channel you will present on. I still remember that video you filmed for EVO with a Ferrari 458 Speciale in Italy. your driving skills......unbelievable.
Jethro and a rwd, NA V10 Lamborghini. Doesn't get more perfect than this. Just perfect. Don't even care about the lap time, just want oversteer power slides and that noise.
Well you hit the rev limiter in every gear so what do you expect from a messy lap?
One word.... Goosebumps
I think the lap video would be better with onboard sound opposed to external mics. It would give the proper drivers experience and feels a bit artificial this way.
Hugely under-rated by the car community
How does this compare to the Sesto Elemento?
Love this one JB!
Love the car Love the review. Excellent drive by Jethro
It just sounds amazing
STO should have been eCOTY instead of the M5. What a fantastic, timeless car
Potential buyer: So how do you operate the stereo sound system?
Dealer: With your right foot. See that pedal down there? So you adjust the volume via how hard you press it. And to change tracks, you just use those two paddles right there on the steering column.
Seriously though, car sounds a amazing, and looks good too. It's another example of "you can't judge the soul of a car by lap times."
How much do we think Cup 2 Rs would take off the lap time? At least half a second?
Great vid…I did think JB had Lauda tattooed on this right arm at first!! Would have been one hell of a tribute to the late great driver. Then I realised it was actually Laura 😵💫
Can probably knock off a tenth or two for all the times you where bouncing off the rev limiter
video seems rather edited so I would take all those rev limit bounce with a grain of salt
More Jethro please.
Don’t know if al the revlimiter banging was added in for more drama, But if that was the acutal audio there is like another half a sec in it ?!
Ahhhh the music of my people.
come on Jethro i was waiting for you! Evo is amazing ! ol and when Lambo see this they will help you to make one more lap :) but on cup 2 r ...you will see :)
I love Jethro! but, We need Steve with a lap of this place.
still the best motoring youtube guy
Need to see a lap with a 765LT
The Lamborghini speciale I love that comparison , some of the best cars ever made, I don't think you can complain about a huracan that ties a P1
I prefer the Technica version, watched catchpoles review yesterday and 👌👌
you dont turn up the mic.!! we turn up our speakers!!!
That really needs to be done again with stickier tyres for sure. Might take a second off that lap time.
That's for sure...and maybe not hitting the rev limiter too.
It would be much more than that depending on just how sticky the tires are. I know a pure race compound tire like a Hoosier could shave seconds off that lap.
I thoroughly enjoyed that lap, and I'm surprised the time wasn't quicker.
Put it on Cup 2R's and see what it can do.
Can't beat a four year old 720s which is not set up for track use.
Hahaha!!! That’s what I was thinking 🤔 a bit embarrassing
It doesn’t matter how old the Mac is, I guess you know that it’s very light and has 780-800hp measured at the crank at dynos while n/a lambos barely show its advertised hp numbers in reality - so it’s no big surprise that it’s slower but who cares till it sounds so good
@@coolguy_2997 yeah you’re right….. I’ll still take the lambo anyday lol
And the 720s doesn’t even have a limited slip differential at the rear axel, it’s just imitated with the rear brakes so you can’t have good fun and stable sideways in it.
I think it's not fair those types of videos re test the P1 on modern rubber and update the time and now you can compare!
Less Jehro imo, can't take him seriously, but good review nonetheless and wonderful sounds.
Put some sticky tyres on, stop hitting the rev limiter and we'd have a great time around the track. But this is missing the point of a Lamborghini, they entertain and awaken the 9 year in all of us🤗
Since we're throwing "Cup 2Rs" on cars that DIDNT originally come w/them, FINE... Throw some onto a 992 Turbo S (w/Lightweight Package) & lets see what that'll do! I'm betting that'll butcher well over half the Leaderboard **EASILY**
Tbh you sound like an armchair pilot who’s never been on track. Your suggestion is valid but you clearly object to cars with upgraded tires (your “FINE” was huffy). Having done literal dozens of track days and autocrosses, I can assure you nobody is on track to prove which car was faster in showroom trim. You buy a car bc it’s a good platform and you pick tires for the situation. You swap tires at the event and you compete to prove who’s the best driver in class (or overall) and that’s how everyone does it. In the end when you get results in spite of your car it’s more rewarding than this car-leaderboard bs.
What is Lamborghini up to with these Hot Wheels color combinations? Regular EVO, please. This one is just to crazy looking!
Bounce off the limiter a few more times I'm sure that'll help out
BAHAHHHA
You buy it for the sound and the emotion, not outright ultimate speed.
I guess a RWD Huracan EVO would do that job perfectly then, sound and emotion.
that GT2 RS time seems slow...probably not done on well prepared tyres
Wrong track for the GT2. It needs long straights and high speed corners........
I have nothing against Jetro, but please more of the other guy. Steve Something was his name
Hey EVO what about Mclaren 765LT vs Lamborghini Huracan STO both are track weapons
Lap time? Steve Sutcliffe.
I'm not saying 1:12 is slow, it's just surprising!
Why always a rolling start?
Seems like people seriously think he was bouncing off the limiter lol it was obviously edited and these Bridgestones are genuine track day tyres not one lap tyres
Did they really use the lap slamming limiter 2-3 times multiple times as the timed lap hahaha
Why any performance car even considers coming with Bridgestones these days is beyond me. Michelin is making a far superior modern tire. Can't be that much more expensive and let's be honest, at this price point you should be going for the very best anyways
Depends on the usage. Speaking from expeirence: the Michelins are hot garbage over a longer session on track. They are one lap hero tires that fall off quickly, which is why they are popular with OEMs--they are great for bragging rights and winning superficial comparison tests. The Bridgestones produce better steering feel and more consistent performance across a broader thermal range (albeit, at an appreciably slower pace, at least, on the first lap). In a sense, they are a much better track day tire even if they are a rather poor hotlap tire.
These new potenza race are 2 seconds per lap faster than the cup2’s.
@@flyingphoenix113 Great info. Thanks for sharing!
@@castroalves8843 Which means it's slower than Cup 2 R
bouncing off the limiter.....is that quicker then??
Without the limiter bouncing it would of been at least 0.1 quicker and faster than the P1
watch close, the audio and the gauges of the timed lap dont line up.
Audio isn’t linked
Said in the clip that if the time upsets you he “doesn’t care”, however I hope Lamborghini care that he drove it through the rev limiter repeatedly. He would fking care if it was his car. These heel / toe princesses are just wanna be race drivers without the clout or the skill.
Should have used track mode with auto shift
I couldnt help but notice the VW unlock button
What is with the limiter bashing?? were those other times completed with the same driver? I don't watch this chanel but yeesh, I feel like a driver mod could improve that lap time.
Sounds fantastic but I'd have to drive at night only ! Looks like a Chinese halford's sticker fest !! P1 for ever 😍
People need to listen to what he is saying, faster does not always means better. What is the point in a car so fast, AKA 720S or 911 Turbo if at legal speeds on the public road it is a none event to drive, a car also needs to be fun to drive on the public road at 50-70mph and even slower. That is why the Ferrari 458 & Speciale are so damn perfect, that is why this STO and the EVO RWD are also so good. Yes there are faster cars but due to speed limits, cameras everywhere it is not legal or socially acceptable to be driving a car at 130mph plus on the public highway to get the fun factory, a truly great car is a car that is not only seriously quick but also fun at the lower speed stuff, well done Lamborghini !
I'd have one of these over any Ferrari. Just on sheer noise and volume alone it is so much better.
I'd definitely rather have a 296GTB over this STO any day.... and with a cat-back, the 296GTB sounds arguably better, at least IMO.
Isn't the Gallardo 5.0l manual, 2wd even more entertaining?
Not 2wd I believe, the Gallardo Lp550-2 Balboni is the closest to that in my mind
@@JC-lb1iq you can very easily make one 2wd, very popular and easy to do mod.
1min of car.. WTF.7min of him
It's a nice Audi
Better just upload a raw video without the sound and video editing, cause it's clear the rev limiter bounce sound and video don't match
Enjoyment is everything, lap times are irrelevant.
Who tf redlines this much?!
how many would you like to hit a limiter?
yes
Why he doesn't get on power much faster?
Don't you mean it has personality!!!
This wouldnt be a question if it was faster than a Performante.
if he took the corners wider he would have done it shorter
Too bad in it's stock form the STO exceeds many track sound limits
Viva FERRUCCIO LAMBORGHINI
1:22 you hit the limiter! 🤷🤦
The person who mixed the sound and the video during the hot lap needs to find a new job. But Jethro and the Lambo were still on good form.
I bet the Senna would be #1 on that list
Let's hear now all the RUclips driving experts telling what he did wrong 😏
P1 came out 8 years ago …
Engaging, low grip, fun at slowish speeds? May I introduce to you the F355, 360 and F430. You simply do not need to spend nearly half a million quid to have lots of fun in a supercar (that is actually made for the road..).
Lambo may have just discovered the secret recipe, but Ferrari are the old masters at it.
boys, lets enjoy petrol engines till we can
Bouncing off the limiter is not the best way to beat a P1 round a track tho
While true, it's actually hard to do in these cars so I'd partially blame Lambo for it. In its angriest mode you have to use the paddles but it's hard to "feel" by ear or acceleration where the shift point is with this engine. It sort of sounds like you're not there yet and keeps pulling harder and then it unexpectedly bangs into the limiter. Needs quite a bit of practice to train your ears as the revs climb quickly and the digital rev counter is hard to interpret properly when you only have 0.1s to look down at it in between two corners. On top of all that the revs are climbing so quickly that in lower gears you have to anticipate the delay between pulling the paddle and the actual shift happening which means pulling the paddle quite a bit before the red line. It would take more time to get used to than these kind of tests usually have allocated.
@@JCviggen1 well you were right if there wasn't like 20-30 tests of other Huracans doing the same thing
@@alim7502 I imagine there's not that many doing a time attack lap. It's easier to pay attention to it if you're at 90%. In any case it's a lot easier to do it in these cars than in something like a GT3.
@@JCviggen1 Having Ferrari like steering wheel LED shift lights would help.
video seems rather edited so I would take all those rev limit bounce with a grain of salt
He he, pretty pish considering.
Ach, I’m just jelly as a canni fit in one 🤣
Maybe with better driver...
Who's Laura?
I'm offended you banged off the rev limiter so many times on the hot lap! 🔥 lol