I, personally, have always seen this sculpture as Zeus. I'm honestly unclear as to how I arrived at that conclusion but there's something about his stance, presence, power and energy that just screams "I'm the king of the gods." Regardless of whether it's Zeus or Poseidon, I think it's pretty much unanimously agreed that it's one of the most pristine and mesmerizing pieces of sculpture to come out of any ancient civilization.
The outstretched left arm and right arm, showing an attempt to body balance in anticipation, suggest it is more likely a long javelin/trident than a bolt. If a bolt, he would probably be clenching his right arm inwards. The proportions are odd, but otherwise the figure is so lifelike in its details (esp the feet) that it suggests the sculptor might have watched an Olympics athlete or such. Shot-putters or discus throwers (i.e. with smaller objects) show a different type of stance.
Very fine observation. I'm always mulling it over in my mind, but have already attributed the bronze to be depicting Jove as opposed to Neptune. My reason being that one never really hears of Neptune 'hurling' his trident afar. He is typically striking with his polearm within melee distance against other beings or to have its influence act upon the earth below His feet. Also seeing as to how it isn't really mentioned that these divine objects ever have a boomerang type effect, I would figure it safe to say that Neptune would not want to cast away his trident.
Weapons expert and Sacerdos here. It's most likely Zeus. Poseidon does not hurl His trident, He strikes with it within his grasp. There was not this 'boomerang' effect with divine weapons that Marvel has created for you.
Imagine if all of the Ancient Greeks works of art where put in one location . It would be one of the greatest museums on Earth Unfortunately this will never happen
At first I didn't notice, but now when I came back to the video, the hairstyle of the god seems so important! His hair is acctually long (at least at the back) and carefully braided. Long hair indicates youth, since it was associated with boys - is it then the reflection of the god's everlasting youth, beauty, immortality? On the other hand we've got this beautiful, thick beard - a symbol of a grown-up man. The god seems to embody those two ideas harmoniously combined: youth's vitality with adult's strenght and wisdom. Am I right in reading the idea here? P.S. The hair and the beard were designed with such precision and passion for details! Also, behind that beard you see the most harmonious, divine face. It is such a shame we cannot see the statue in its full intended glory: shining in the sun, looking at us with the eyes of glass... I am convinced that the sculpture portrays Zeus hurling his thunderbolt. The balance of his feet, the focus on his face, arm pointing out, aiming... And a trident would disturb the perfect view of that wonderful face! Also, would Poseidon hurl his trident?
1:351:40 Oh, dear 1:47 VERY 'well-preserved, as is the case here' 1:58 Inlaid with silver... 2:15 '...striding toward us...' 2:19 That missing 'attribute': thunderbolt, trident...or spear? 2:48 This 'god's' physiognomy is spot-on-point 3:09 The 'severe' style ☺ 4:33 Yep: human in his nudity 5:05
I would put my money on this being Poseidon, that index finger pushing ever so slightly the trident at the end, its a distance shot, not a full force attack. Poseidon, that's my pick. What do you think?
Once again we are thwarted by the missing held object. I agree with the speculation that this is Zeus, though. Semi-randomly, I can't stop thinking about what a beautiful warrior II he could get into with a slight bend in that front knee... A body like that would hold it very well. I appreciate the unexpected inspiration to ease myself into the workout week tomorrow. 😋
Why dont the 2 priceless bronze Greek sculptures of Calabria ever get reviewed? The Bronze sculptures of Riace Calabria now housed in the Museum of Reggio Calabria
Magnifico! There is a theory that the ancient Greeks used casts of actual body parts to get the remarkable anatomical detail of their bronzes. However this statue is not anatomically correct. If Zeus lowered his arms he would be able to scratch his knees without bending.
Years of study and interpreting art. Casual viewers simply look at an object while art historians think about the artists intentions, surrounding culture at the time that influenced the artists, and materials and techniques used. They may be overreaching at times, but most ancient art is based on conjecture so these analysts are trying to help guide the casual layman in understanding what they're looking at.
@@niadaniels1044 It was on a ship because ancient Romans after conquering Greece , took thousands of greek artifacts to Italy to decorate public buildings and villas. They transport them by ships. Afterwards they tried to make copies, and in Renaissance used them us examples (prototyps). That's a way greek art affected european art.
@@eleniasimop The Romans and other westerners had been stealing Greek art for so long, it later became taken for granted as common practice even to the extent that the context and background of many of those ancient artworks are now unknown. The Vatican possesses several Greek works that have no explanation since they'd been stripped of their identity so long ago, that even those in possession of them don't even know where they came from or even what they mean.
It's my favourite ancient sculpture 🥰
I, personally, have always seen this sculpture as Zeus. I'm honestly unclear as to how I arrived at that conclusion but there's something about his stance, presence, power and energy that just screams "I'm the king of the gods." Regardless of whether it's Zeus or Poseidon, I think it's pretty much unanimously agreed that it's one of the most pristine and mesmerizing pieces of sculpture to come out of any ancient civilization.
That's right Zeus was always depicted how throwing his thunderbolts
@@sasajugovic6984, exactly. It's an image that's sort of cemented itself within the collective consciousness. It HAS to be Zeus.
@@chestersakamoto6843 and one more thing,Poseidon never on every statue have shorter hair,period 101% this is Zeus statue
Very fascinating. Truly a piece of art.
It's a masterpiece!!
Imagine a world without Greece...
acting as if we would be doomed
The outstretched left arm and right arm, showing an attempt to body balance in anticipation, suggest it is more likely a long javelin/trident than a bolt. If a bolt, he would probably be clenching his right arm inwards. The proportions are odd, but otherwise the figure is so lifelike in its details (esp the feet) that it suggests the sculptor might have watched an Olympics athlete or such. Shot-putters or discus throwers (i.e. with smaller objects) show a different type of stance.
Very fine observation. I'm always mulling it over in my mind, but have already attributed the bronze to be depicting Jove as opposed to Neptune. My reason being that one never really hears of Neptune 'hurling' his trident afar. He is typically striking with his polearm within melee distance against other beings or to have its influence act upon the earth below His feet. Also seeing as to how it isn't really mentioned that these divine objects ever have a boomerang type effect, I would figure it safe to say that Neptune would not want to cast away his trident.
@@grexwtf Yeah, I think its Zeus as well!
Such strength and power! if only we could see it in all it's shining glory!
Weapons expert and Sacerdos here. It's most likely Zeus. Poseidon does not hurl His trident, He strikes with it within his grasp. There was not this 'boomerang' effect with divine weapons that Marvel has created for you.
For me LA PLUS BELLE STATUE AU MONDE !
Truly magnificent.
I'm not sure anyone has equalled the ancient Greeks to this day
Zeus with the 360 wave cap 🌊 looking mad fresh. Even his beard has waves
Maravilha! Obrigado por legendar!
Imagine if all of the Ancient Greeks works of art where put in one location . It would be one of the greatest museums on Earth Unfortunately this will never happen
Awesome Statue !
It seems almost alive !
Great description!!
At first I didn't notice, but now when I came back to the video, the hairstyle of the god seems so important! His hair is acctually long (at least at the back) and carefully braided. Long hair indicates youth, since it was associated with boys - is it then the reflection of the god's everlasting youth, beauty, immortality? On the other hand we've got this beautiful, thick beard - a symbol of a grown-up man. The god seems to embody those two ideas harmoniously combined: youth's vitality with adult's strenght and wisdom. Am I right in reading the idea here?
P.S. The hair and the beard were designed with such precision and passion for details! Also, behind that beard you see the most harmonious, divine face. It is such a shame we cannot see the statue in its full intended glory: shining in the sun, looking at us with the eyes of glass... I am convinced that the sculpture portrays Zeus hurling his thunderbolt. The balance of his feet, the focus on his face, arm pointing out, aiming... And a trident would disturb the perfect view of that wonderful face! Also, would Poseidon hurl his trident?
This is super rare because it's bronze. It should definitely be part of the APAH curriculum.
1:35 1:40 Oh, dear
1:47 VERY 'well-preserved, as is the case here'
1:58 Inlaid with silver...
2:15 '...striding toward us...'
2:19 That missing 'attribute': thunderbolt, trident...or spear?
2:48 This 'god's' physiognomy is spot-on-point
3:09 The 'severe' style ☺
4:33 Yep: human in his nudity
5:05
Magnificently Beautiful!
yeah sure it looks cool
I would put my money on this being Poseidon, that index finger pushing ever so slightly the trident at the end, its a distance shot, not a full force attack. Poseidon, that's my pick. What do you think?
it's a spear because the statu is rather large, the spear cold be just big enough to balance out the statu.
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what lead you to that idea?
The beard and the hairstyle is that of Poseidon...Check the Livadostra statue of Poseidon...
Once again we are thwarted by the missing held object. I agree with the speculation that this is Zeus, though.
Semi-randomly, I can't stop thinking about what a beautiful warrior II he could get into with a slight bend in that front knee... A body like that would hold it very well. I appreciate the unexpected inspiration to ease myself into the workout week tomorrow. 😋
The third most spectacular statue in the world. The winners are of course the RIACE BRONZES/WARRIORS
Why dont the 2 priceless bronze Greek sculptures of Calabria ever get reviewed?
The Bronze sculptures of Riace Calabria now housed in the Museum of Reggio Calabria
Remember to look on Smarthistory.org! smarthistory.org/riace-warriors/
i read this as "artemis or zeus or poseidon" and was very confused for a second
Magnifico! There is a theory that the ancient Greeks used casts of actual body parts to get the remarkable anatomical detail of their bronzes. However this statue is not anatomically correct. If Zeus lowered his arms he would be able to scratch his knees without bending.
Waiting for Bronzi di Riace 😀
Someday we will get to Calabria, until then we have this: smarthistory.org/riace-warriors/
It’s Poseidon I know that cause that statue is in a game and he is holding a Trident
Ha! Now that's primary research!
where do they come up with all these things to say??
Years of study and interpreting art. Casual viewers simply look at an object while art historians think about the artists intentions, surrounding culture at the time that influenced the artists, and materials and techniques used. They may be overreaching at times, but most ancient art is based on conjecture so these analysts are trying to help guide the casual layman in understanding what they're looking at.
their limbic system is out of this world😨
Just read some books, like "Story Of Art". What they are saying doesn't really need years of study.
Definitely Zeus.I found many smaller images with thunderbolts the style of style braids,
Always a wonderful piece of art history...and Ali.....maybe you could use some....only kidding
I’d like to ave that coin at 0:45. 😁
It's a Zeus he is always throwing thunderbolts Poseidon always just holding his spear with three spikes
nice
It is Zeus I think.
Why is it that this sculpture was found underwater
The caption under the video explains this.
Smarthistory. art, history, conversation. why was it on a ship
@@niadaniels1044 It was on a ship because ancient Romans after conquering Greece , took thousands of greek artifacts to Italy to decorate public buildings and villas. They transport them by ships.
Afterwards they tried to make copies, and in Renaissance used them us examples (prototyps). That's a way greek art affected european art.
@@eleniasimop informative answer, thank you.
@@eleniasimop The Romans and other westerners had been stealing Greek art for so long, it later became taken for granted as common practice even to the extent that the context and background of many of those ancient artworks are now unknown.
The Vatican possesses several Greek works that have no explanation since they'd been stripped of their identity so long ago, that even those in possession of them don't even know where they came from or even what they mean.
Poseidon
Plot twist: It’s not Zeus or Poseidon, it’s actually Hades.
isn't this the ancient piece that is 'too perfect'? ie: the sculptor has removed the tailbone and a rib?
It's probably Zeus, look to (zeus of Dodonia figures) ... it's him.
it could also be an Olympic stadium statue of the Roman coliseum
It's five hundred years older than Coliseum
@@eleniasimop that's 490 more than his ten fingers, some people have difficulty to count higher
looks hard to make
we give thank to the mollusks who saved him-1:41
Its not Zeus.... its a sailors God of the sea.
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