Teachworth01 It only works as long as you move the magnet by hand. The energy comes from your moving hand. As soon as you try to make a device without a moving hand, it won't work because the energy is no longer supplied to it from outside. The lever will be unable to lift away the magnet.
***** sir look the last example of the video, a little thingie pushes the magnet up when the loop is restarting, if i had enough magnets(actualy that kind of magnets) and material tho make the spinning thing i would build it, like 4 big ones,2 for powering my laptop, 1 for my cellphone, 1 for my mother's cellphone, and 10 small ones for the car batteries
Guilherme Rafael Zimermann The last example in the video is fake. It is driven by some hidden external mechanism. Several people built it, it doesn't work. You can build it too, it will not work.
I used to do the same in the 90´s but with the internet late at night. But one day they tried to make a phone call and heard the clasic dial up connection sound, then they found the cable that I put attached in my window and were trying to kill me! LOL
When I watched the video on at 1:00 long time ago I had the same idea to self move the magnet too. Glad to see how nicely it has been done. However, can't understand what is in the bottom and if it is necessary. The same thing could be done on other similar magnet rollers specially the disk ones.
Its a smaller magnet used to keep it working. The only thing that scientist say prevent this from being perpetual motion is the fact that magnets dont last forever. Dont think you can generate much power from it, but still cool.
@@wizgang0 What the hell are you talking about? There is no reason a ferromagnet would loose magnetisation. Further as any perpetum mobile. This is a scam. The wheel has a double wall in the middle with a motor inside.
@North American RUclipsr : You mean a regular wind turbine... Replace one set of magnets with a solenoid (wire coil) and you have a Nikola Tesla "worthy" Invention (a Synchronous Generator...) - Like Magic...
@@kadmow a guy tried to debunk this video by building one like it. He did not put all the correct pieces together and he said it did not work... he might have been hired by the upper power group
The force required to torque a generator is greater than the magnetic field output. These devices don't take into consideration conversion of momentum.
Well. The science behind the arc reactor is only a little bit fiction. The original design was just a small hydrogen plasma fusion reactor. So people mistakenly believe that they can miniaturize it like cellphones in a few years.
***** The race to fusion technology is getting faster and faster. However, it may be some time until it's miniaturized to fit in a suit. Though I do think it will be possible one day. Who's to say how long from now, though. Could be twenty five years, could be two hundred and fifty.
MakoRuu I dont see you building one and testing it to prove or disprove that it's possible. All I see is you applying old data to a new idea. Add in a small generator like one in a kids car and run the camera with the power it generates. You're what I call an establishment scientist. If it's already been disproved then it can never be changed. So by your line of thinking the world is still flat and we'll fall off of the edge of the world if we sail too far. So until you can present a video disproving it, it works. Put up or shut up.
Very interesting motor configurations, but, there is no free lunch. The energy you are adding to the system to change the position of the magnet in your hand is providing the torque. You can, no doubt, feel the attraction or repulsion on the magnet you're holding?
The machine at the end is at best a very complicated flywheel. energy is stored when the machine is initially "set" and the pin is placed. it is transferred into rotational energy to get it moving and from there it will slowly run down due to friction and air resistance. it cannot produce energy, if it produced more energy then it used to keep moving it would accelerate indefinitely. it cannot store energy indefinitely due to entropy. the second law of thermodynamics is absolute. If you disproved it you would win a Nobel Prize.
in theory you "could" put like a 60 or 100 to 1 rear on it and a small motor and have the flywheel turn the small gear and use the motor as a dynamo but i honestly think this was more about proving something to themselves
Skwisgar2322 it looks like the proximity of the perpendicular magnet is pulling the wheel, turning the wheel towards the magnets that are closer to the poles, opening the V. At the end of the V you need to start over, if you don't lift the magnet away, the fields will kick back. you have magnetic attraction for 90% of the rotation. it's first rotation was slower than the rest, it accelerated to its operation speed which would mean it's creating energy, not maintaining energy. there's a lot of arguing here. i think i'll just buy a rollerskate wheel and some magnets and try this out for myself to see if it's real.
So the magnet wheel machines. We need to see two things. Torque generated on the shaft they ride on verses energy required to lift and lower the bar in their hands. I would wager my degree in engineering that the net result is negative. Takes more energy to lift bar than what you could extract from the shaft. The motion of the person's hand IS the source of external power.
Howard Johnson built a very simple permanent magnet motor based on a lazy susan and hand held armature. He took the small motor down to a auto motor building shop that had a dyno. The hooked up the motor and it generated 125 HP with over 100 ft lbs of torque. It only had four magnets on the lazy susan and he was using samarium cobalt magnets that were the latest in 1980. We are now two generations of permanent magnets in power beyound SC permanent magnets. Johnson called himself "the duct tape inventor" because no matter what he invented he put the concept model together with duct tape and the U.S. Patent Office issued him over 30 patents during his lifetime based on those concept models. The U.S. Navy thought so highly of Johnson's concept models that our Patent Office in Washington DC still have, that they spent seven years building and testing a working permanent magnet. HoJo's permanent magnet motor concept now powers the Navy's powerful rail guns that can fire a ship sinking projectile 275 miles. Our old 16 inch battleship guns could reach about 30 miles. Permanent magnet motors are here, they work like Howard Johnson's models work, and they will revolutionize the world.
For the people saying it is free energy, no there is energy stored in the magnets and it takes time to make the structure and maintain it. People need to stop thinking in terms of infinite perpetual motion and instead start to visualize it as having a bicycle wheel that spins a little longer than before thanks to X. This structure does spin for a long time but it only makes enough energy to spin itself. As soon as you add other things that add friction or resistance it will not spin for a long time. The device uses gravity to return the pin and the energy provided by the magnets is so subtle that the gradual curve is required to keep the resistance of gravity (while moving the pin up) to a minimum. This video is great for people who want to make stuff like Kinetic Art - consider this a long lasting spin. Other ways to make it spin better is to use Ceramic ball bearings instead of steel - ceramic have a push resistance of 0.2 while steel ball bearings have a push resistance of 0.8. An even greater way to extend the spin is to have the magnets on a helix that goes around the axle instead of a cylinder. For people who are looking for 'free energy' you will not get it from this machine but devices that make kinetic movement more efficient than before are certainly something that can improve current machines that need to use energy more efficiently.
I've been wondering for over a decade why nobody on the internet has shown this attempt publicly... bravo for being the first to create a self-sustaining magnetic motor.
@@indridcold8433 Had recently thought of making what looks like a gravity battery mechanism... but with 2 very powerful permanent magnets, one of them kept stationary at the top, that would get separated by liquid aluminum that would alternatively move away through a tiny amount of the charge created when attracted and from the fall of the bottom giant magnet to generate enough electromagnetism for the entire mechanism to slightly tilt for the liquid aluminum to fill or empty.
Pay no attention to "Indrid Cold" (obviously lying). There's an air hose above the wheel blowing downward to make it spin, just off camera. It's really that simple. The concepts you're talking about (gravity/battery mechanisms, etc.) have been completely disproven via dozens of different mechanisms.
I wonder if Leonardo da Vinci had a small group of musicians in his work-loft that would play really, really terrible music whenever he was showing off some of his inventions to strangers.
Edu Well......according to a survey of my teddy bears you're probably a jerknose. lol You're totally right....I have no idea what the hell I was thinking when I typed Michelangelo instead of Leonardo da Vinci. It's not like that's a simple scriveners error: I had to really be off my game to do that. I'm just going to blame it on the music in the original video.
The initial force that starts the thing comes from the bar that droops when he removes the pin. After that the thing will come to a stop sooner or later. Notice at the end how the bar raises when he brings the thing back to its starting position, ready for another kick start.
magnets cause that movement probably, meaning they will eventually need to be replaced after a while.. So it is not even a perpetual motion as it does not keep moving by itself but by a different source and when that stops working the machine stops working
***** Good find, but otherwise I would have thought about a magnet.. There is a reason one cannot patent a "perpetual motion" machine without showing a working prototype of it.. Because it should not be possible according to law of thermal dynamics.
Oh, I think it would continue to work with a bell jar over it. I suspect that there's an electromagnet under the table top that's being pulsed. And that's what is supplying the force to keep the wheel moving.
@@DutchGabbers *_So it is not even a perpetual motion as it does not keep moving by itself but by a different source_* You're sort of splitting hairs here. The magnets are an integral part of the design, so the machine does indeed, keep itself moving. Magnetism is simply *_HOW_* it keeps itself moving. Despite being an interesting design, it nevertheless is not "perpetual" nor does it provide "free energy" because a) The magnets will eventually weaken, thus causing the cycle to stop. b) The unit can't be attached to say, a small generator or alternator because this was create drag on the system -- the magnets don't provide sufficient energy to keep the wheel spinning *and* spin a secondary device.
Congradulations upon inventing something almost as efficient as a desk toy made of marbles and string. You now hold the key to harnessing ALL the energy of one plastic cutout falling less than six inches. Use it wisely.
I only got five to eight days of motion out of it. I think balancing the contraption may help me get more time out of it. How did you get it to stay running for a month.
Nice! Would it go smoother if static magnet was under it on some spring, so when pushed away would go easier as it would go toward the Earth instead of opposing the gravity?
This device does have an extended running time. However, it seems to stop in about five to eight days for me. I start it and it runs strong. But I can always tell when it will stop. A few hours before it stops, it will seem to pause momentarily very briefly before the arm lifts the magnet rod. I come back in about two hours and it is stopped.
@@jhanthony2 If you really believe it will run forever, build one. I can promise you it will stop. It does have a long run time but it is not perpetual. It does not produce energy at all. It just loses it very slowly. It is easy to build. Do not expect more than 5 to 8 days of running time. If you make it to nine days, tell me what you did. But it will stop.
@@indridcold8433 Are you trying for the Nobel prize in trolling? You're a liar and you're busted. You don't have one of these. If you did you wouldn't be making these absurd claims about how long it runs. It won't go for days or for hours. It can't make so much as single rotation.
@@jhanthony2 Are you kidding me? I was trying to convince you that it did not run perpetually and you seem to think 5 to 8 days is a long time. For a device that is supposed to be perpetual, 5 to 8 days is a complete failure. I was actually trying to convince you that it did not work. If you believe 5 to 8 days is a long time for a perpetual motion apparatus, take a look at some that ran a lot longer but still failed. A moving current was sustained in a cryogenic superconductive ring of lead for years and finally failed. There is a fountain that can run longer than these pathetic 5 to 8 days. Take a look. 5 to 8 days is not a long time at all. It is a miserable failure. You can accomplish over a year with a single AA battery and a simple pulse motor.
@@indridcold8433 You said that you have one of these things that will run for a few days before it stops. If that's your claim, it's a bald-faced lie. Have I misunderstood you?
I agree with you, too. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Another experiment will start in 2017 on my channel. And it is not a perpetual motion machine. It is a kind of energy source.
Unless you add that to a 5 kw permanent magnetic generator to be moved by that X force, and the energy to flow to a DC to AC inverter and then to back-up batteries! like that you could create energy!
I'm not talking about perpetual energy. Let me explain, do you know how the wind turbines work? well if you know, imagine that in the place of a big-ass wind turbine wings you put powerful magnets to create a conversion of a linear movement X force to a circular one, to move the turbine instead of the wind, you could create energy!
***** I am 100% correct, no such thing as free energy extracted from so called perpetual movement machine, current or future science doesn't make any difference ! This device can't produce anything, it is just a kind of fly wheel. No way this thing could be a source of cheap-emission-free energy ! If you fail to understand that you are no better than Eli. The way I handled Eli and your opinion is the way it should be. Since PC and the fear to hurt people's feelings, idiots are not called idiot anymore. The result is that it gives them confidence to display their idiocy without being challenged, and worse, they gain followers. It is why in Western societies, the schooling system produces such a lot of illiterate and we end up being governed by morons !.
the issue of moving forward without needing to pull the magnets away would just be as simple as a synchronized shield. It would be in rotation with the wheel so that each transition would be for a split second without a magnetic charge for the reset.
Well, nice machine, I want one for my desk, can I buy it somewhere? PS: It's pretty obvious this machine won't run for ever, especially not if you try to harvest energy from it.
Simon Rose how did they fake it? Is there a hidden motor inside? I know that perpetual motion/free energy machines are impossible, but it looked as if it could preserve momentum for the duration of the video.
Simon Rose Not sure if trolling or just stupid. But you clearly don't understand how magnets work. Take a look at a magnetic train for example, the way it works is almost exactly like how the magnets in the video are presented. And magnetic trains are highly operable and are rated as the best trains in the world. Stop being so skeptical and go do some research before you go around yelling "dur it's a hoax!" at every experiment.
In addition every magnectic push must be broken down There is an initial attraction An equal draw and a repulsion which mechanically all balance each other out. Producing no Ositive or negative effect no matter how magnets are arranged.
How is this free energy when it takes energy to magnetise something that doesn't produce more energy than the initial charge which was needed? (especially when you take the kinetic energy from arm movements in account that keep some of these running)
I've been interested in gadgets my entire life, am an electronics tech for over 40-years, and I have to say that this is the first WORKING demonstration of 'free' energy that I have ever seen .. using the power of attraction of magnets, starting at center and spreading out toward the main magnet poles to give that increasing 'pull' needed for movement. Simple, and ingenious. II give you a '10' ...
You believe that because that's what you've heard. You've never conducted any research of your own to come to that conclusion, you've just eagerly accepted what others have told you because their logic makes sense. You have to be aware of the fact that there is a massive incentive to keep free energy technology hidden, and thus keep us reliant on fossil fuels, right? There's a reason why the streets aren't currently filled with electric cars, we'll never see that day in our lifetimes.
Was thinking the exact same thing for the solution. Another way is to use a repelling magnet to push an arm instead of using a fixed arm (magnetic force instead of the force from the wood colliding). Just put the repelling magnet on the axel and have an arm nearby that it can repel as it spins close to it. Either way does the same thing but one would use a magnet that wears down over time instead of a solid frame that wears down over time.
First : nothing in this universe is free, you need energy to create magnet, a lot of for those powerfull ones Second : this machine will stop eventually In conclusion this machine is as free energy as a battery powered one.
It is not about the energy with which a magnet is manufactured because it should be destroyed to obtain its energy. It is the energy that your arm spends moving the magnet against the repulsion which comes from the chemical energy extracted from your previously eaten food. And yes. Nothing is free in the universe.
yep that's true you need energy to polarize magnets, but energy can be generated by rotating something, true the model could use some work and maybe if scaled up it would be able to obtain higher speeds... the up and down action of the magnet could be controlled with a simple crankshaft so it minimizes the impact slowing it down when it lifts the magnet love all these people yelling perpetual motion is impossible you obviously know their not inventors because "Impossible" isn't a real word in a true inventors dictionary
@@jackasshomey learns about the principle of energy conservation. if the magnetic energy turns into motion, then the magnets lose their polarization, so it no longer has magnetic energy. the movement will then be converted into heat by the friction forces, until the system stops
@@MrBlackShark5593 well seems like the same shit that went on around computers when they were first invented everyone was like ehh its just a fad they wont last computers are useless, 20 years later and would you imagine that fuckin computers everywhere. shit like anti gravity, teleporters, perpetual motion, molecular synthesizers and energy shields these things are laughed and scoffed at when the idea is conceived but that just shows how close minded people are... if you never imagine how it could be possible, how do you ever expect to discover how it is possible?
except it's not perpetual , magnet don't work for eternity , they have an "amount" of energy (kinda), and became less and less powerfull with time until become totally useless. and i don't mention the friction force.
Bobsyouruncle Wilson it probably needs more energy to even bump the bar because the shafts moment is perpendicular to the ground, meaning it has to counter the full extent of gravity without an angled ramp to support some of the weight of the shaft. These fake things are even dumber when you have to think about other forces.
It's a famous track made by Jean-Michel Jarre , it's a French composer, performer and record producer. He is a pioneer in the electronic, ambient and new-age genres, and known for organising outdoor spectacles featuring his music, vast laser displays and fireworks.
Not only does the user lift the magnet past the sticky spot but he also pushes back down with the magnet. This (the user's push) is where the extra energy is coming from to cause the rotation.
a question. if it works how it was made, normally it must be faster and faster, or Not? the magnet comes in every speed in the right time, mechanical, also it can become endless speed?
I decided to build the last one at home. I have a CNC machine, so the part fabrication was pretty easy. I used aluminum and neodymium magnets. I started it July 23, 2014 5:19 PM. It is now July 24, 2014 5:24 AM. I have a feeling that it will stop, though. Still, it is pretty cool to pretend for a second that you have built a perpetual motion device...
My first reaction was that the weight of the "driver magnet" as it's released is where the initial energy might come from before it's all converted into heat as the forces of friction act on the unit until it stops. I've read other comments that claim there is air being blown at it to keep it going too, and I must admit, it does seem to change speed up and down a little as if it were being "tampered with" Keep trying though chap, you never know. The laws of thermodynamics were made to be broken ;)
even if your replication is not working, please make a video of it, i want to see it :) when my 3d printer will be up and running, its one of the thing I want to replicate, I have a lot of magnets lying around and I want to test it even (I think) that device is not working, probably powered with air compressor (air turn the rotor) since no video with sound, only music background... we dont know...
While this machine works, It is not free energy. The energy needed to make permanent magnets is truly enormous, more than what this device will ever produce.
Wrong on so many levels: 1) This machine doesn't work. An off-screen air hose is blowing on it to make it spin. 2) Even if you had hypothetical magnets that never demagnetized, it wouldn't matter, you still couldn't get any device like the one in the video to spin more than 359.999 degrees. It cannot spin 360 degrees without an outside energy source to help it. You know... those pesky laws of physics. 3) The energy required to magnetize a standard kitchen magnet is roughly the same as you taking your hand and tap it on the table. This is very well known, and you can simply google "energy in magnetic fields" - do the math yourself - and see that the input energy is tiny. It's not "truly enormous" like you say. 4) If it did work (which it doesn't), then you would definitely get more energy output than input, hence free energy, hence a perpetual motion machine, that would defy the laws of physics. It wouldn't matter how strong the magnets are, or aren't. The energy required to make the magnets would be nothing compared to the energy yielded. But, of course, it doesn't work, so it's irrelevant. It's pretty rare to see so many wrong things in such a short posted message. Bravo. You set a new record for the most ignorant gibberish packed into the fewest amount of words.
Spencer Howard No, if it worked, it WOULD be free energy. But, it doesn't work. How about stopping posting pure gibberish. It's clear that you haven't got the slightest clue what you're talking about. Every single thing you've said is completely wrong, yet you decided to post MORE wrong things?
This isn't the reason why it's not free energy though since they are not loosing any stored energy. Therefore some of these will have been faked, others you can see the guy supplying energy by moving the magnet hence magnetic field by hand.
rockethead7 I'm not here to disproove or give an opinion, rather to seek knowledge; what is it with point 2 of your comment, where does this conclusion come from, I'm not very sophisticated in physics but well enough educated for you to give me some terms to google on. Would be very nice and thanks * Oh no need to, just found out by scrolling! Sorry for bothering
I keep watching these kinda videos in the hope that one day I'm going to come across something that is going to completely blow my mind enough to either reproduce it "or, improve upon it AND do it at low cost and fit it in an ultra light weight carbon fibre or Alloy framed motorcycle ... my search continues, at least the music was good though ;)
Complete BS, in reality the energy required to move the magnetic bars would be greater than the momentum produced by the magnetic fields. When done by hand the system is having energy input from the human arm, in the autonomous demo there is a hidden motor.
..youre not thinking..these devices are basic proofs of concept and not efficient finnished products..they very obviously can be made to produce a lot of mechanical or electric energy if made with better materials and scaled up..so what if one the size of a small car is needed to power a house..you are powering a whole house for free and very cleanly..
Die Konstruktions- und Funktionsweise ist nachvollziehbar. Dennoch handelt es sich hier nicht um ein Perpetuum Mobil. Die freigesetzte Energie (Bewegungsenergie) hat ihren Ursprung in der Magnetkraft. Wenn man die Lebensdauer eines Permanentmagneten betrachtet, wird man zum einen feststellen, dass zur Erstellung dieses Magneten diesem eine Energiemenge zugeführt wurde. Entweder natürlich oder künstlich durch des Menschens Hand. Ferner wird man feststellen, dass die Feldstärke der Magneten bei der ständig wechselnden magnetischen Beanspruchung, schwinden. Aber dennoch ist diese Variante der Energieümwandlung bzw. Freisetzung ein schön anzusehender Hingucker.
I actually think the concept at the end is brilliant. Great effort put on this. We all know it cannot go forever and it cannot physically be a perpetual motion machine, so I'm not too sure why all those arguments on the topic. HOWEVER, it seems that the energy input can be very well worth the energy output, at least conceptually. For example it could be a VERY efficient pump...
Well Bro. If it goes for some minutes, to me that means forever!!!!! Remember that the sun will not shine forever either, only another few billion years!!!!! And if it works, you can make gigantic a version to make a pump of any sort.
teodor martyniuk There's a giant difference between free and cheap. Imagine you want it to run for an infinite time. If it is free, then it will run for an infinite time for free, no questions asked. If it is cheap, then it will still require an infinite source of magnets to run it for an infinite time.
It's irrelevant that magnets eventually demagnetize. The issue is that there isn't any energy in magnets to "tap into" like the video pretends. Even if you had a hypothetical magnet that never demagnetized, it still cannot make a wheel spin. The only thing making the wheel spin is the off-camera air hose blowing on it. Without that, you cannot even get a single full rotation. Magnets aren't batteries. Magnetism is a FORCE, not energy.
The invisible magnetic lines of flux are the source of energy. Just as electrons flow to give us current magnetic lines of flux are always flowing as in Earth flux. That movement can be captured by manipulating the factors. So I believe this can be constructed. Good work!
First of all stop calling them perpetual motion machines. They are free energy machines. We live in an entropic universe and everything decays and dies in time. Suns, galaxies and eventually even Universes will die unless our Creator has set in motion a continual death and rebirth cycle. Free energy machines do work. Windmills are free energy machines. Solar panels are free energy collectors. So are the energizers that John Bedini makes that collects the zero point energy (aka radiant and dark energy). So is the models that Howard Johnson got a U.S. patent for that work off of permanent magnets that the U.S. Navy has used to build working permanent magnet motors from. That is another free energy machine. Free energy means after it is built it requires no additional cost fuels to keep running. Maintenance yes, but fuel no. You see. Free energy machines do exist. They run and if we build a completely distributed system we can take down our costly and vulnerable grid and free the world from a major cost to our species. Not since 100,000-80,000 BC when fuel sources were free for the pickup have we had that freedom. Greedy people have been buying patents to shelve them, and as a last resort they murder inventors to hang on the profits made from grossly outdated and environment harming technologies. You need to stop splitting hairs Henry and get with the program. This will fundamentally change our world for the better.
Just one thing....The Rotation wasn't constant throughout and started to slow down before you went in to stop it.........Did you interrupt the jet of air ???
Dreaming! It's all being blown around by moving air - which is an invisible form of external energy. Nothing is free. All of these ideas are simply art forms.
And that ignorance is why science hasn't moved forward in that field. You are literally seeing it move on its own, then putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and saying, "Perpetual motion isn't possible!" And you managed to have 6 other lemmings follow suit.
manuel pichardo A water wheel turns gravatitional potential energy of falling mass into mechanical/electrical/thermal energy. Hydro power is indirect solar power--sun energy evaporates and transports water some of which falls much higher then sea level and some of the energy of the water 'falling' back to sea level can be captured. The system in vid is a joke.
its not hard at all to transfer kinetic energy. no different then running on a running wheel to generate electricity. its no myth, look up people that runs there house off magnetic wheels. and another good idea for electricity is instead of treadmills to exercise, how about a running wheel to help power the city you live in. creates incentive to exercise don't it?
manuel pichardo I'm sure you can find a 150 homeless ppl running on a treadmill to power each and every single house that way. Just suspend a bottle of booze in front.
When he lifts the magnet at the end of the cycle then pushes it back in *_that’s_* where the extra energy is coming from. I suspect that designing a mechanism to automate that would introduce too much friction.
it looks like a good idea but the video is very old. is there a more recent one? the cam is like a flywheel as well as moving the top magnet. is the flywheel function really necessary? if not then you can replace the top and bottom magnets with pulsed coils in order to keep it running without the added load. did you try to connect it to a generator and battery in order to store the energy?
This the best machine I have seen on the tube. It will generate electricity all day long. Make a larger version and add a faraday disc to it. The key is to remove friction and accelerate the disc to 12000 rpm. Take the positive from the edge and negative from the shaft. I believe this can generate all the power you need. (Retired consultant in pumps, filtration) Well done to the inventor, Beware, this should produce 1.5 volts 5000 amps.
There has to be a way to make a large scale version of this and generate power from it. If not from the spinning of the turbine, then by the piston action of the bar jumping up and down.
me encantó este video es una explicación sencilla sin palabras es mas empezaré a experimentar con estos modelos de motor se hace justo y necesario ya que en mi país pagas la electricidad caricima y la empresa cobra aparte el combustible usado para generar esa energía
+Merlin Ferrera Merlin, you need to know that the final device in this video is fake. It will not solve your energy problems. Every "magnet motor" or "over-unity" device you have ever seen, or ever will see, is fake. Every one of them.
Free energy exists all around us, we just have to learn how to tap into it... It's not about getting something for nothing, it's about converting the energy around us, into something we can use...
This uses a thing from electric motors . They use magnets as well but also electricity to generate magnetic field, when the magnet above is lifted up then there's way less magnetic power to stop the current rotation and therefore it moves forward and just a while after (when the rotator thing is right after the point where both distances touch eachother) the magnet is moved down and the speed increases. At beginning of the self running machine, the white plate starts the entire system since it's falling down and therefore causing the magnet to go down + pushes the rotor outside the distances middle point.
The motor continues to moving by the magnet because the distances between the highest magnetic power of the above magnet and the magnets below is higher.
There is no such thing as Perpetual Motion or do you really think planets rotate because of that? No, space turtles give each planet a push from time to time - every kid knows that :P
Here is a summary of the work that has the title: How a computer can invent by itself (i.e. the Methods for developing inventions with the help of which three programmers can easily create a program using which a computer can invent many inventions by itself)
Let’s suppose that two such conditional propositions are written to the computer memory (and also other conditional propositions are written): 1) If: fire is placed under the stone, then: the stone will heat up. 2) If: the stone will heat up, then: the stone will expand. Words of conditional proposition which stand from (i.e. after) the word «if» and before the word «then» are called the basis of conditional proposition, and words of conditional proposition that stand after the word «then» are called the consequence of conditional proposition. Let’s suppose that computer should solve the following inventive task, i.e. the computer has to determine what needs to be done to have the following: the stone will expand (i.e. the computer has to determine how the following can be obtained: the stone will expand), let’s call this task the original inventive task (let’s assume that this task has not been solved yet). From the second conditional proposition it follows that in order for the computer to solve the original inventive task it is necessary for the computer to solve the following inventive task, i.e. it is necessary for the computer to determine what needs to be done to obtain the following: the stone will heat up (i.e. it is necessary for the computer to determine how the following can be obtained: the stone will be heated); let’s call this task the second inventive task. And (from the first conditional proposition it follows that) in order for the computer to solve the second inventive task, it is necessary for it to solve the following inventive task, i.e. it is necessary for the computer to determine what needs to be done to have the following: fire will be placed under a stone (let's call this problem the third inventive task). ))And the third inventive task has been solved, because it is known how to get the following: fire will be placed under a stone. And if the third inventive task has been solved, then the second inventive task has been solved too. And if the second inventive task has been solved, then the original inventive task has been solved too. The Rule: Let’s take any inventive task (let's call this inventive task the fourth inventive task). In order for a computer to create an inventive task, having solved which it thereby solved the fourth inventive task, it is necessary for the computer to find in its own memory such a conditional proposition that has the following feature: the consequence of this conditional proposition and description of this fourth inventive task have the same meanings or consist of the same words which are located in the same sequence. And the basis of this conditional proposition will be an inventive task, having solved which the computer thereby solves the fourth inventive task. They have the same meanings: a) the word and interpretation of this the word b) synonyms and so on. Computer can find the same words in its memory. Let's take any inventive task (let's call this inventive task the fifth inventive task). The computer will solve the fifth inventive task if it does the following: first, using this rule, it will create such an inventive task (let’s call this task the sixth inventive task), having solved which it thereby solves the fifth inventive task, then, using this rule, the computer will create such an inventive task, having solved which it thereby solved the sixth inventive task, etc., (on average 90 times) to the moment at which (i.e. until) the computer creates such an inventive task the solution of which is known, and if the computer creates such (i.e. the latter) inventive task, then the computer will solve the fifth inventive task. That is, the computer will solved the fifth (i.e. any) inventive task if it creates on average 90 such tasks. Almost all currently known information (which is needed to create inventions) can be expressed in the form of conditional propositions. If, for example, 400 random physical effects in the form of conditional propositions are stored in the computer memory, then the computer can create on average a lot of inventions using this method (an average inventor knows 150 physical effects).
This machine probably has a battery and motor inside the wheel, or it is being pushed with compressed air from off camera. That's why you get triply music instead of the video's real sound.
Technically creating the generator isn't free, but in this case the energy is ultimately generated by two forces played in opposition to each other: gravity and magnetism. Because neither gravity nor magnetism requires its own energy source to operate the machine theoretically doesn't need to be fed by anything to keep running. I'm not sure this would work if it were rigged up to harness the energy, and I don't know if this process is actually producing energy at all. It could just be using gravity and magnetism to prolong the dissolution of the rotational energy from the wheel dropping into motion that first time.
Because the generator experiences friction each revolution, usable energy must be lost in the form of heat and probably sound. Energy must be constantly added to the system by some external force in order to maintain revolution. I don't claim to know what that is, but it must be. Also, the friction must cause decay on the system, meaning that it is not truly perpetual. At some point in time, parts need to be replaced.
Redbeard The Pink Yes that is essentially what is happing. This is basically an elaborate fly wheel which has no more energy stored in it then what is put into the system when the operator starts it spinning. Over time the wheel would come to a stop from air resistance. Connected to anything with an more fiction producing parts, such as a dynamo, it would come to a stop much sooner. Oddly enough NASA is looking at these magnet wheels, NOT as a means to produce energy (because they don't) but as an efficient means to store energy for long periods. Within a hard vacuum they would be spin for even longer and potentially could be used in new satellite designs. Satellites cost a lot of money to build, launch and operate so it helps if they can have a long lifespan. One of the biggest determining factors for that lifespan is the satellite's on board power. Potentially a magnetic flywheel could be spun up with large amounts of stored/potential energy on Earth, launched into orbit aboard a satellite and with a simple clutch could be connected to a dynamo when power was needed. The wheel would in effect be an on board battery but only because it was originally spun up with kinetic energy.
Where did you you come from? Either there has always been stuff or it came from nothing! Another possibility is we are limited by our imaginations and language.
I thought the same but then I found this link in the comments and now it is obvious that the guy at the end is the biggest cheater 😆 i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18dtgs2p8d8s5jpg.jpg
It's a WORKING RUclips views generator (although a non-working free energy generator).
***** Explain how this doesn't work
Teachworth01 It only works as long as you move the magnet by hand. The energy comes from your moving hand. As soon as you try to make a device without a moving hand, it won't work because the energy is no longer supplied to it from outside. The lever will be unable to lift away the magnet.
zetalore It's more like one of those flashlights that you have to shake for it to work.
***** sir look the last example of the video, a little thingie pushes the magnet up when the loop is restarting, if i had enough magnets(actualy that kind of magnets) and material tho make the spinning thing i would build it, like 4 big ones,2 for powering my laptop, 1 for my cellphone, 1 for my mother's cellphone, and 10 small ones for the car batteries
Guilherme Rafael Zimermann The last example in the video is fake. It is driven by some hidden external mechanism. Several people built it, it doesn't work. You can build it too, it will not work.
When I want free energy I just plug an extension cord into my neighbor's outlet.
Typical teddy trick . . ..
Teddey Bear 😂
I syphon petrol from my neighbor's BMW.
And there is a one-time bonus: a free bullet. 😁
I used to do the same in the 90´s but with the internet late at night. But one day they tried to make a phone call and heard the clasic dial up connection sound, then they found the cable that I put attached in my window and were trying to kill me! LOL
When I watched the video on at 1:00 long time ago I had the same idea to self move the magnet too. Glad to see how nicely it has been done. However, can't understand what is in the bottom and if it is necessary.
The same thing could be done on other similar magnet rollers specially the disk ones.
Its a smaller magnet used to keep it working. The only thing that scientist say prevent this from being perpetual motion is the fact that magnets dont last forever. Dont think you can generate much power from it, but still cool.
@@wizgang0 What the hell are you talking about? There is no reason a ferromagnet would loose magnetisation. Further as any perpetum mobile. This is a scam. The wheel has a double wall in the middle with a motor inside.
David Othus wrong, completely wrong.
@@brunostroobandt7233 how is the power shortages going?
I used to be a big believer in free energy, when I was 6.
and since you lost your mind
@North American RUclipsr : You mean a regular wind turbine... Replace one set of magnets with a solenoid (wire coil) and you have a Nikola Tesla "worthy" Invention (a Synchronous Generator...) - Like Magic...
You don't believe that this design would work?
@@SINLEADSTOHELL .. HA ha ha. Perfect....
@@kadmow a guy tried to debunk this video by building one like it. He did not put all the correct pieces together and he said it did not work... he might have been hired by the upper power group
Reading the comment is quite an experience. I do appreciate China's education's system now..
Haha lmao made my day!
True. ONly if you could use black energi in someway.
wat do u mean??
The force required to torque a generator is greater than the magnetic field output.
These devices don't take into consideration conversion of momentum.
Well. The science behind the arc reactor is only a little bit fiction. The original design was just a small hydrogen plasma fusion reactor. So people mistakenly believe that they can miniaturize it like cellphones in a few years.
It most likely will be. lol
***** The race to fusion technology is getting faster and faster. However, it may be some time until it's miniaturized to fit in a suit. Though I do think it will be possible one day. Who's to say how long from now, though. Could be twenty five years, could be two hundred and fifty.
MakoRuu I dont see you building one and testing it to prove or disprove that it's possible. All I see is you applying old data to a new idea. Add in a small generator like one in a kids car and run the camera with the power it generates. You're what I call an establishment scientist. If it's already been disproved then it can never be changed. So by your line of thinking the world is still flat and we'll fall off of the edge of the world if we sail too far. So until you can present a video disproving it, it works. Put up or shut up.
Cool story, bro.
Very interesting motor configurations, but, there is no free lunch. The energy you are adding to the system to change the position of the magnet in your hand is providing the torque. You can, no doubt, feel the attraction or repulsion on the magnet you're holding?
Nice hobby to have, I always loved magnets. I suppose you've made your car and house run of this by now.
The machine at the end is at best a very complicated flywheel. energy is stored when the machine is initially "set" and the pin is placed. it is transferred into rotational energy to get it moving and from there it will slowly run down due to friction and air resistance. it cannot produce energy, if it produced more energy then it used to keep moving it would accelerate indefinitely. it cannot store energy indefinitely due to entropy. the second law of thermodynamics is absolute. If you disproved it you would win a Nobel Prize.
in theory you "could" put like a 60 or 100 to 1 rear on it and a small motor and have the flywheel turn the small gear and use the motor as a dynamo but i honestly think this was more about proving something to themselves
If you put any kind of resistance on it like a moor it would stop very quickly, likely in less then 1 revolution.
thats why i said like a 60 to 1 because it won't really stress it
doesn't matter, there is a finite amount of rotational energy stored, it would barely be enough to power a flashlight for about 1 sec.
Skwisgar2322
it looks like the proximity of the perpendicular magnet is pulling the wheel, turning the wheel towards the magnets that are closer to the poles, opening the V. At the end of the V you need to start over, if you don't lift the magnet away, the fields will kick back. you have magnetic attraction for 90% of the rotation. it's first rotation was slower than the rest, it accelerated to its operation speed which would mean it's creating energy, not maintaining energy.
there's a lot of arguing here. i think i'll just buy a rollerskate wheel and some magnets and try this out for myself to see if it's real.
So the magnet wheel machines. We need to see two things. Torque generated on the shaft they ride on verses energy required to lift and lower the bar in their hands. I would wager my degree in engineering that the net result is negative. Takes more energy to lift bar than what you could extract from the shaft. The motion of the person's hand IS the source of external power.
The off-screen air hose blowing on the wheel is the source of energy.
How does an air hose turn a wheel without paddles?
***** There's enough "paddle" effect from the magnets sticking out.
Howard Johnson built a very simple permanent magnet motor based on a lazy susan and hand held armature. He took the small motor down to a auto motor building shop that had a dyno. The hooked up the motor and it generated 125 HP with over 100 ft lbs of torque. It only had four magnets on the lazy susan and he was using samarium cobalt magnets that were the latest in 1980. We are now two generations of permanent magnets in power beyound SC permanent magnets. Johnson called himself "the duct tape inventor" because no matter what he invented he put the concept model together with duct tape and the U.S. Patent Office issued him over 30 patents during his lifetime based on those concept models. The U.S. Navy thought so highly of Johnson's concept models that our Patent Office in Washington DC still have, that they spent seven years building and testing a working permanent magnet. HoJo's permanent magnet motor concept now powers the Navy's powerful rail guns that can fire a ship sinking projectile 275 miles. Our old 16 inch battleship guns could reach about 30 miles. Permanent magnet motors are here, they work like Howard Johnson's models work, and they will revolutionize the world.
Andrew T. If he put the bar at the bottom of the device and spring loaded it to minimize resistance would this help?
For the people saying it is free energy, no there is energy stored in the magnets and it takes time to make the structure and maintain it. People need to stop thinking in terms of infinite perpetual motion and instead start to visualize it as having a bicycle wheel that spins a little longer than before thanks to X. This structure does spin for a long time but it only makes enough energy to spin itself. As soon as you add other things that add friction or resistance it will not spin for a long time. The device uses gravity to return the pin and the energy provided by the magnets is so subtle that the gradual curve is required to keep the resistance of gravity (while moving the pin up) to a minimum. This video is great for people who want to make stuff like Kinetic Art - consider this a long lasting spin. Other ways to make it spin better is to use Ceramic ball bearings instead of steel - ceramic have a push resistance of 0.2 while steel ball bearings have a push resistance of 0.8.
An even greater way to extend the spin is to have the magnets on a helix that goes around the axle instead of a cylinder. For people who are looking for 'free energy' you will not get it from this machine but devices that make kinetic movement more efficient than before are certainly something that can improve current machines that need to use energy more efficiently.
I've been wondering for over a decade why nobody on the internet has shown this attempt publicly... bravo for being the first to create a self-sustaining magnetic motor.
It stops. It just does it in five to eight days. I have only been able to get eight days out of it a very few times. It mostly just runs five days.
@@indridcold8433 Had recently thought of making what looks like a gravity battery mechanism... but with 2 very powerful permanent magnets, one of them kept stationary at the top, that would get separated by liquid aluminum that would alternatively move away through a tiny amount of the charge created when attracted and from the fall of the bottom giant magnet to generate enough electromagnetism for the entire mechanism to slightly tilt for the liquid aluminum to fill or empty.
Pay no attention to "Indrid Cold" (obviously lying).
There's an air hose above the wheel blowing downward to make it spin, just off camera. It's really that simple. The concepts you're talking about (gravity/battery mechanisms, etc.) have been completely disproven via dozens of different mechanisms.
@@rockethead7 Yes, it's fake! See image of the deception here: hosting.photobucket.com/images/h153/NomadColossus/Fake.jpg
@@rockethead7 There is no airhose retard
Congratulations, you discover the office decoration xD
:D
The ultimate Perpetual motion machine.
I wonder if Leonardo da Vinci had a small group of musicians in his work-loft that would play really, really terrible music whenever he was showing off some of his inventions to strangers.
Das ist 80er Jahre Kult!
You probably mean Leonardo da Vinci.
Edu
Well......according to a survey of my teddy bears you're probably a jerknose.
lol
You're totally right....I have no idea what the hell I was thinking when I typed Michelangelo instead of Leonardo da Vinci. It's not like that's a simple scriveners error: I had to really be off my game to do that.
I'm just going to blame it on the music in the original video.
I blame the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles :P
The music is good man
Awesome video!
Have you looked at Veljko Milkovićs' two-stage mechanical oscillator? Possibly it could be tuned to pump your design.
The initial force that starts the thing comes from the bar that droops when he removes the pin. After that the thing will come to a stop sooner or later. Notice at the end how the bar raises when he brings the thing back to its starting position, ready for another kick start.
omg this music brings back memories
Looks convincing, but now put a bell jar over it while it's still spinning. Gotcha!
magnets cause that movement probably, meaning they will eventually need to be replaced after a while..
So it is not even a perpetual motion as it does not keep moving by itself but by a different source and when that stops working the machine stops working
there is a air hose pushing it along, hence the bell jar. i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18dtgs2p8d8s5jpg.jpg
*****
Good find, but otherwise I would have thought about a magnet..
There is a reason one cannot patent a "perpetual motion" machine without showing a working prototype of it.. Because it should not be possible according to law of thermal dynamics.
Oh, I think it would continue to work with a bell jar over it. I suspect that there's an electromagnet under the table top that's being pulsed. And that's what is supplying the force to keep the wheel moving.
@@DutchGabbers *_So it is not even a perpetual motion as it does not keep moving by itself but by a different source_*
You're sort of splitting hairs here. The magnets are an integral part of the design, so the machine does indeed, keep itself moving. Magnetism is simply *_HOW_* it keeps itself moving. Despite being an interesting design, it nevertheless is not "perpetual" nor does it provide "free energy" because
a) The magnets will eventually weaken, thus causing the cycle to stop.
b) The unit can't be attached to say, a small generator or alternator because this was create drag on the system -- the magnets don't provide sufficient energy to keep the wheel spinning *and* spin a secondary device.
He nailed it!
Though the video may be fake, it introduced me to JMJ at 7 and I've never been the same since. Thank you people
I used an extension cord with a multiplug on it and plugged it into itself, now I can use it to power my tin foil hat
Pure "fugazy", if it was really producing more power than it took to turn the wheel, it would speed up.
It actually does stop, in about 5 to 8 days. It does not produce energy. It just loses it very slowly. I have never got 9 days from it.
Congradulations upon inventing something almost as efficient as a desk toy made of marbles and string. You now hold the key to harnessing ALL the energy of one plastic cutout falling less than six inches. Use it wisely.
Parabéns! Finalmente o que todos queriam. Grato!
This is as much perpetual energy as drinking bird toys are
I'm pretty sure moving your hand costs energy, so....
(either way, these are impossible, thx thermodynamics)
I remember this song on the CD pure moods my mom ordered for me back in the 90s for a birthday..
I used to have a rotor suspended by V block magnets on each end that would do this. You could set the rotor down and it would start spinning.
It's beautifully done! Even after a month it stops such motion is still useful!
I only got five to eight days of motion out of it. I think balancing the contraption may help me get more time out of it. How did you get it to stay running for a month.
@@indridcold8433 I want this device. Build or buy, do you have a link?
Nice!
Would it go smoother if static magnet was under it on some spring, so when pushed away would go easier as it would go toward the Earth instead of opposing the gravity?
this video is fake bruh
@@KayC352 yea. all those power wires connected to it is easy to see
@@ShawnJonesHellion idk how it was faked all I know is it was. It violates the laws of conservation of energy
with this setup how much energy (in Amp) can produce and how long this magnetic force last??
That last one was clever. I though about that but the lever holding the magnet really went to the power switch for the motor
Dev has discovered this issue and has fixed it in patch 2.0.1.7 thank you dev
This device does have an extended running time. However, it seems to stop in about five to eight days for me. I start it and it runs strong. But I can always tell when it will stop. A few hours before it stops, it will seem to pause momentarily very briefly before the arm lifts the magnet rod. I come back in about two hours and it is stopped.
Bullshit. You're a liar.
@@jhanthony2 If you really believe it will run forever, build one. I can promise you it will stop. It does have a long run time but it is not perpetual. It does not produce energy at all. It just loses it very slowly. It is easy to build. Do not expect more than 5 to 8 days of running time. If you make it to nine days, tell me what you did. But it will stop.
@@indridcold8433 Are you trying for the Nobel prize in trolling? You're a liar and you're busted. You don't have one of these. If you did you wouldn't be making these absurd claims about how long it runs. It won't go for days or for hours. It can't make so much as single rotation.
@@jhanthony2 Are you kidding me? I was trying to convince you that it did not run perpetually and you seem to think 5 to 8 days is a long time. For a device that is supposed to be perpetual, 5 to 8 days is a complete failure. I was actually trying to convince you that it did not work. If you believe 5 to 8 days is a long time for a perpetual motion apparatus, take a look at some that ran a lot longer but still failed. A moving current was sustained in a cryogenic superconductive ring of lead for years and finally failed. There is a fountain that can run longer than these pathetic 5 to 8 days. Take a look. 5 to 8 days is not a long time at all. It is a miserable failure. You can accomplish over a year with a single AA battery and a simple pulse motor.
@@indridcold8433 You said that you have one of these things that will run for a few days before it stops. If that's your claim, it's a bald-faced lie. Have I misunderstood you?
"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE ENERGY" -the man who sat on hot glued wires
I agree with you, too. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Another experiment will start in 2017 on my channel. And it is not a perpetual motion machine. It is a kind of energy source.
What's the name of this song pls? I've heard it millions of times before
Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene, Pt. 4
magnetic fields
It's like a riff on Popcorn.
@@DristanRossVII Its hard to believe it was recorded in 1976!
DARUDE - SAND STORM
Not fake, easy to understand and of course no free energy, just conversion of a linear movement X force to a circular one
Unless you add that to a 5 kw permanent magnetic generator to be moved by that X force, and the energy to flow to a DC to AC inverter and then to back-up batteries! like that you could create energy!
Eli P.
Are you kidding ? NO SUCH THING AS PERPETUAL MOVEMENT !
I'm not talking about perpetual energy. Let me explain, do you know how the wind turbines work? well if you know, imagine that in the place of a big-ass wind turbine wings you put powerful magnets to create a conversion of a linear movement X force to a circular one, to move the turbine instead of the wind, you could create energy!
Eli P. Obviously you know nothing ! No time to lose with idiots, BYE !
*****
I am 100% correct, no such thing as free energy extracted from so called perpetual movement machine, current or future science doesn't make any difference ! This device can't produce anything, it is just a kind of fly wheel. No way this thing could be a source of cheap-emission-free energy ! If you fail to understand that you are no better than Eli.
The way I handled Eli and your opinion is the way it should be. Since PC and the fear to hurt people's feelings, idiots are not called idiot anymore. The result is that it gives them confidence to display their idiocy without being challenged, and worse, they gain followers. It is why in Western societies, the schooling system produces such a lot of illiterate and we end up being governed by morons !.
Is it loud when it smacks that... uh... cornerstone magnet up... after 1 revolution, to keep the rotations consistent speed?
the issue of moving forward without needing to pull the magnets away would just be as simple as a synchronized shield. It would be in rotation with the wheel so that each transition would be for a split second without a magnetic charge for the reset.
Well, nice machine, I want one for my desk, can I buy it somewhere?
PS: It's pretty obvious this machine won't run for ever, especially not if you try to harvest energy from it.
er, its a hoax!
Simon Rose how did they fake it? Is there a hidden motor inside? I know that perpetual motion/free energy machines are impossible, but it looked as if it could preserve momentum for the duration of the video.
If you limit the friction , it's not impossible at all :D
its air driven people, not real.
Simon Rose Not sure if trolling or just stupid. But you clearly don't understand how magnets work.
Take a look at a magnetic train for example, the way it works is almost exactly like how the magnets in the video are presented. And magnetic trains are highly operable and are rated as the best trains in the world. Stop being so skeptical and go do some research before you go around yelling "dur it's a hoax!" at every experiment.
Title: exists
Physicians: wait thats illegal
In addition
every magnectic push must be broken down
There is an initial attraction
An equal draw and a repulsion which mechanically all balance each other out.
Producing no
Ositive or negative effect no matter how magnets are arranged.
Gravity plus magnets. It can be done.
How is this free energy when it takes energy to magnetise something that doesn't produce more energy than the initial charge which was needed? (especially when you take the kinetic energy from arm movements in account that keep some of these running)
I've been interested in gadgets my entire life, am an electronics tech for over 40-years, and I have to say that this is the first WORKING demonstration of 'free' energy that I have ever seen .. using the power of attraction of magnets, starting at center and spreading out toward the main magnet poles to give that increasing 'pull' needed for movement. Simple, and ingenious. II give you a '10' ...
It's not true free energy. the moment you start tapping energy from it, it will stop. Besides magnets don't last forever
you cannot get energy out without putting energy in, why do people still believe in these "perpetual" motion machines
House devedesete interesting that you call someone retarded when you clearly don't understand the Laws of Thermodynamics.
+krissander1 Ignore them, at least they are not out in the street
+krissander1 even a first grader can see the mechanics in the end.
You believe that because that's what you've heard. You've never conducted any research of your own to come to that conclusion, you've just eagerly accepted what others have told you because their logic makes sense. You have to be aware of the fact that there is a massive incentive to keep free energy technology hidden, and thus keep us reliant on fossil fuels, right? There's a reason why the streets aren't currently filled with electric cars, we'll never see that day in our lifetimes.
+PerfectSnowball true
Was thinking the exact same thing for the solution. Another way is to use a repelling magnet to push an arm instead of using a fixed arm (magnetic force instead of the force from the wood colliding). Just put the repelling magnet on the axel and have an arm nearby that it can repel as it spins close to it. Either way does the same thing but one would use a magnet that wears down over time instead of a solid frame that wears down over time.
This is still a very cool device. I had this idea a while ago and I'm glad somebody got off their butt and gave it a shot.
Everybody gangsta until 3rd law of thermodynamics comes into play
First : nothing in this universe is free, you need energy to create magnet, a lot of for those powerfull ones
Second : this machine will stop eventually
In conclusion this machine is as free energy as a battery powered one.
It is not about the energy with which a magnet is manufactured because it should be destroyed to obtain its energy. It is the energy that your arm spends moving the magnet against the repulsion which comes from the chemical energy extracted from your previously eaten food. And yes. Nothing is free in the universe.
yep that's true you need energy to polarize magnets, but energy can be generated by rotating something, true the model could use some work and maybe if scaled up it would be able to obtain higher speeds... the up and down action of the magnet could be controlled with a simple crankshaft so it minimizes the impact slowing it down when it lifts the magnet
love all these people yelling perpetual motion is impossible you obviously know their not inventors because "Impossible" isn't a real word in a true inventors dictionary
@@jackasshomey
learns about the principle of energy conservation.
if the magnetic energy turns into motion, then the magnets lose their polarization, so it no longer has magnetic energy. the movement will then be converted into heat by the friction forces, until the system stops
@@MrBlackShark5593 well seems like the same shit that went on around computers when they were first invented everyone was like ehh its just a fad they wont last computers are useless, 20 years later and would you imagine that fuckin computers everywhere.
shit like anti gravity, teleporters, perpetual motion, molecular synthesizers and energy shields these things are laughed and scoffed at when the idea is conceived but that just shows how close minded people are... if you never imagine how it could be possible, how do you ever expect to discover how it is possible?
@@jackasshomey Perpetual motion machines have been around forever... if they worked we would know it by now
thumbs up for the combination of hilarious comments and dramatic music
This is the first magnetic perpetual motion I have seen that would work! Watch the whole video.
except it's not perpetual , magnet don't work for eternity , they have an "amount" of energy (kinda), and became less and less powerfull with time until become totally useless.
and i don't mention the friction force.
eventually you will find your hand hurting from that tree energy, and you will understand
You didn't watch til the end. He designed a self-powered unit that automated the up/down motion of the bar.
Bobsyouruncle Wilson it probably needs more energy to even bump the bar because the shafts moment is perpendicular to the ground, meaning it has to counter the full extent of gravity without an angled ramp to support some of the weight of the shaft.
These fake things are even dumber when you have to think about other forces.
In fact the end shows that the pulling of the bar takes less energy than rolling the whole thing, so it produces more energy
Not real
@@alcardespear2446 why
music . . . where can I find others of similar kind ?? brilliant !!!!
It's a famous track made by Jean-Michel Jarre , it's a French composer, performer and record producer. He is a pioneer in the electronic, ambient and new-age genres, and known for organising outdoor spectacles featuring his music, vast laser displays and fireworks.
Not only does the user lift the magnet past the sticky spot but he also pushes back down with the magnet. This (the user's push) is where the extra energy is coming from to cause the rotation.
Did you watch till the end? No hands
@Mas-ud Al-hassan If I gave you a way to make this work would you be able to try to make it work? It's pretty simple I'm my eyes
a question. if it works how it was made, normally it must be faster and faster, or Not? the magnet comes in every speed in the right time, mechanical, also it can become endless speed?
I decided to build the last one at home. I have a CNC machine, so the part fabrication was pretty easy. I used aluminum and neodymium magnets. I started it July 23, 2014 5:19 PM. It is now July 24, 2014 5:24 AM. I have a feeling that it will stop, though. Still, it is pretty cool to pretend for a second that you have built a perpetual motion device...
My first reaction was that the weight of the "driver magnet" as it's released is where the initial energy might come from before it's all converted into heat as the forces of friction act on the unit until it stops. I've read other comments that claim there is air being blown at it to keep it going too, and I must admit, it does seem to change speed up and down a little as if it were being "tampered with" Keep trying though chap, you never know. The laws of thermodynamics were made to be broken ;)
even if your replication is not working, please make a video of it, i want to see it :)
when my 3d printer will be up and running, its one of the thing I want to replicate, I have a lot of magnets lying around and I want to test it even (I think) that device is not working, probably powered with air compressor (air turn the rotor) since no video with sound, only music background... we dont know...
Opin-Eon the magnets are not perfect and neither is the cylinder so that could be the cause of the momentum change.
simhopp I am afraid I cannot provide 3D files for the prototype. A CNC machine is (basically) 2D.
While this machine works, It is not free energy. The energy needed to make permanent magnets is truly enormous, more than what this device will ever produce.
Wrong on so many levels:
1) This machine doesn't work. An off-screen air hose is blowing on it to make it spin.
2) Even if you had hypothetical magnets that never demagnetized, it wouldn't matter, you still couldn't get any device like the one in the video to spin more than 359.999 degrees. It cannot spin 360 degrees without an outside energy source to help it. You know... those pesky laws of physics.
3) The energy required to magnetize a standard kitchen magnet is roughly the same as you taking your hand and tap it on the table. This is very well known, and you can simply google "energy in magnetic fields" - do the math yourself - and see that the input energy is tiny. It's not "truly enormous" like you say.
4) If it did work (which it doesn't), then you would definitely get more energy output than input, hence free energy, hence a perpetual motion machine, that would defy the laws of physics. It wouldn't matter how strong the magnets are, or aren't. The energy required to make the magnets would be nothing compared to the energy yielded. But, of course, it doesn't work, so it's irrelevant.
It's pretty rare to see so many wrong things in such a short posted message. Bravo. You set a new record for the most ignorant gibberish packed into the fewest amount of words.
Ok I will rephrase, EVEN IF this machine worked it wouldn't be free energy.
Spencer Howard
No, if it worked, it WOULD be free energy. But, it doesn't work.
How about stopping posting pure gibberish. It's clear that you haven't got the slightest clue what you're talking about. Every single thing you've said is completely wrong, yet you decided to post MORE wrong things?
This isn't the reason why it's not free energy though since they are not loosing any stored energy. Therefore some of these will have been faked, others you can see the guy supplying energy by moving the magnet hence magnetic field by hand.
rockethead7 I'm not here to disproove or give an opinion, rather to seek knowledge; what is it with point 2 of your comment, where does this conclusion come from, I'm not very sophisticated in physics but well enough educated for you to give me some terms to google on. Would be very nice and thanks
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Oh no need to, just found out by scrolling!
Sorry for bothering
I keep watching these kinda videos in the hope that one day I'm going to come across something that is going to completely blow my mind enough to either reproduce it "or, improve upon it AND do it at low cost and fit it in an ultra light weight carbon fibre or Alloy framed motorcycle ... my search continues, at least the music was good though ;)
Great video, it all starts with an idea, thanks for building the prototype and sharing with us.
3:26 where can i buy this? please reply
Robert Gonzalez you can't this thing is fake and any resistance you put on it will stop it prepetual motion machines don't exist
Complete BS, in reality the energy required to move the magnetic bars would be greater than the momentum produced by the magnetic fields. When done by hand the system is having energy input from the human arm, in the autonomous demo there is a hidden motor.
..youre not thinking..these devices are basic proofs of concept and not efficient finnished products..they very obviously can be made to produce a lot of mechanical or electric energy if made with better materials and scaled up..so what if one the size of a small car is needed to power a house..you are powering a whole house for free and very cleanly..
@@deanlonagan1475 not only did you violate the second law of thermodynamics, you violated the first law as well.
Die Konstruktions- und Funktionsweise ist nachvollziehbar.
Dennoch handelt es sich hier nicht um ein Perpetuum Mobil.
Die freigesetzte Energie (Bewegungsenergie) hat ihren Ursprung in der Magnetkraft.
Wenn man die Lebensdauer eines Permanentmagneten betrachtet, wird man zum einen feststellen, dass zur Erstellung dieses Magneten diesem eine Energiemenge zugeführt wurde. Entweder natürlich oder künstlich durch des Menschens Hand.
Ferner wird man feststellen, dass die Feldstärke der Magneten bei der ständig wechselnden magnetischen Beanspruchung, schwinden.
Aber dennoch ist diese Variante der Energieümwandlung bzw. Freisetzung ein schön anzusehender Hingucker.
+Gabriel Petervari
Magneten sind keine Batterien. Sie enthalten keine Energie. Das Gerät ist gefälscht.
Can you imagine the reaction of the first guy to come across the magnet and it's "magical" powers?
Forget perpetual motion and free energy dreams, I can actually sell you dehydrated water right now!
Shut up and take my money! :D
Or you can sell nuclear battery’s wich generates power on it’s own indefinitly,those new ones should last for 28000 years😁
Cool. Now live-stream it so we can all watch it stop.
This looks interesting. The magnets are facing up on the same pole, right ? What's the catch wirh the distance ? Why is uneven ?
So cool, perhaps it will lasts until the axis starts to failed for friction in the support points, but also as a disadvantage, the restricted rpm.
Restrito no protótipo de imãs pequenos 🤔 e se for maior e se aproximar mais ainda os imãs a velocidade e força com certeza aumentariam.
I actually think the concept at the end is brilliant. Great effort put on this. We all know it cannot go forever and it cannot physically be a perpetual motion machine, so I'm not too sure why all those arguments on the topic. HOWEVER, it seems that the energy input can be very well worth the energy output, at least conceptually. For example it could be a VERY efficient pump...
Well Bro. If it goes for some minutes, to me that means forever!!!!! Remember that the sun will not shine forever either, only another few billion years!!!!! And if it works, you can make gigantic a version to make a pump of any sort.
"perpetual motion machine" is a misnomer. If this actually is real, it is over unity, which means free energy
@@angere8 Who cares about its name?!! Over unity would not be its name either. Ask a chinese man for the name he would say it is 复制粘贴
@@angere8 if I gave you an idea on how to make this work would you able to try it?
Not free energy, but (if this is real) it is an energy source. Magnetic power will deplete.
magnets are cheap though
teodor martyniuk
There's a giant difference between free and cheap.
Imagine you want it to run for an infinite time.
If it is free, then it will run for an infinite time for free, no questions asked.
If it is cheap, then it will still require an infinite source of magnets to run it for an infinite time.
teodor martyniuk Never said it wasn't efficient, but just not free. I was kinda saying that this is physically possible because it's not free energy.
It's irrelevant that magnets eventually demagnetize. The issue is that there isn't any energy in magnets to "tap into" like the video pretends. Even if you had a hypothetical magnet that never demagnetized, it still cannot make a wheel spin. The only thing making the wheel spin is the off-camera air hose blowing on it. Without that, you cannot even get a single full rotation. Magnets aren't batteries. Magnetism is a FORCE, not energy.
rockethead7 Go away, you're so annoying.
Well positioned so the blower could make it work... Besides, it is a good decoration piece.
The invisible magnetic lines of flux are the source of energy. Just as electrons flow to give us current magnetic lines of flux are always flowing as in Earth flux. That movement can be captured by manipulating the factors. So I believe this can be constructed. Good work!
Me: *reads* Free Energy Generator
Huh?
***Face Palm***
First and only rule for perpetual motion machine videos, it doesn't work and will never work
First of all stop calling them perpetual motion machines. They are free energy machines. We live in an entropic universe and everything decays and dies in time. Suns, galaxies and eventually even Universes will die unless our Creator has set in motion a continual death and rebirth cycle. Free energy machines do work. Windmills are free energy machines. Solar panels are free energy collectors. So are the energizers that John Bedini makes that collects the zero point energy (aka radiant and dark energy). So is the models that Howard Johnson got a U.S. patent for that work off of permanent magnets that the U.S. Navy has used to build working permanent magnet motors from. That is another free energy machine. Free energy means after it is built it requires no additional cost fuels to keep running. Maintenance yes, but fuel no. You see. Free energy machines do exist. They run and if we build a completely distributed system we can take down our costly and vulnerable grid and free the world from a major cost to our species. Not since 100,000-80,000 BC when fuel sources were free for the pickup have we had that freedom. Greedy people have been buying patents to shelve them, and as a last resort they murder inventors to hang on the profits made from grossly outdated and environment harming technologies. You need to stop splitting hairs Henry and get with the program. This will fundamentally change our world for the better.
T. Hannibal Tiger I think your comment belongs elsewhere
T. Hannibal Tiger my post was sopposed to be funny and there is a difference between perpetual motion and free energy
T. Hannibal: You misunderstand physics so badly that, while you aren't right, you aren't wrong either, merely incoherent.
lol nasa has an engine that defies physics yet you say physics lol enjoy it brainiac lol
Just one thing....The Rotation wasn't constant throughout and started to slow down before you went in to stop it.........Did you interrupt the jet of air ???
Dreaming! It's all being blown around by moving air - which is an invisible form of external energy. Nothing is free. All of these ideas are simply art forms.
Perpetual motion machines aren't possible to create. But I really appreciate your taste in music! had a while without listening to Jean Michel Jarre ♥
And that ignorance is why science hasn't moved forward in that field. You are literally seeing it move on its own, then putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and saying, "Perpetual motion isn't possible!" And you managed to have 6 other lemmings follow suit.
Wrong
How does it start and have you actually generated energy? Your machine is still subject to Newtons laws of motion.
how is it any different then the way a water wheel works?
manuel pichardo A water wheel turns gravatitional potential energy of falling mass into mechanical/electrical/thermal energy. Hydro power is indirect solar power--sun energy evaporates and transports water some of which falls much higher then sea level and some of the energy of the water 'falling' back to sea level can be captured. The system in vid is a joke.
its not hard at all to transfer kinetic energy. no different then running on a running wheel to generate electricity. its no myth, look up people that runs there house off magnetic wheels. and another good idea for electricity is instead of treadmills to exercise, how about a running wheel to help power the city you live in. creates incentive to exercise don't it?
i have a hard time talking to cave men. because there so behind. all it takes to move the magnet is a little interrupter. its basic technology.
manuel pichardo I'm sure you can find a 150 homeless ppl running on a treadmill to power each and every single house that way. Just suspend a bottle of booze in front.
When he lifts the magnet at the end of the cycle then pushes it back in *_that’s_* where the extra energy is coming from. I suspect that designing a mechanism to automate that would introduce too much friction.
WHere ist teh source or energy in this toy? Video ist to blurry tu see, what really happens. Is ther something under the table?
it looks like a good idea but the video is very old. is there a more recent one? the cam is like a flywheel as well as moving the top magnet. is the flywheel function really necessary? if not then you can replace the top and bottom magnets with pulsed coils in order to keep it running without the added load. did you try to connect it to a generator and battery in order to store the energy?
Dude I know it's been 3 years but... this wouldn't even power a single fucking LED even upgraded.
This the best machine I have seen on the tube. It will generate electricity all day long. Make a larger version and add a faraday disc to it. The key is to remove friction and accelerate the disc to 12000 rpm. Take the positive from the edge and negative from the shaft. I believe this can generate all the power you need. (Retired consultant in pumps, filtration) Well done to the inventor, Beware, this should produce 1.5 volts 5000 amps.
There has to be a way to make a large scale version of this and generate power from it. If not from the spinning of the turbine, then by the piston action of the bar jumping up and down.
I dont know who u are but I enjoyed your video thank you for making it...
Where is no such this as FREE energy
found this hard to mastabate to...
+cicatrixta hard. Not impossible?
+cicatrixta Holy shit, is this 2005?
+Thure Christensen No. It's 1999. This crap was everywhere then because of "Y2K!"
+cicatrixta X'D
same I think it was the dull music but mabey if you added some more lube u could bust a nut
Free energy mania will never end it seems.
me encantó este video es una explicación sencilla sin palabras es mas empezaré a experimentar con estos modelos de motor se hace justo y necesario ya que en mi país pagas la electricidad caricima y la empresa cobra aparte el combustible usado para generar esa energía
+Merlin Ferrera
Merlin, you need to know that the final device in this video is fake. It will not solve your energy problems. Every "magnet motor" or "over-unity" device you have ever seen, or ever will see, is fake. Every one of them.
It is physically impossible to have a perpetual motion machine, not anything that has “free energy” because of thermodynamics
Free energy exists all around us, we just have to learn how to tap into it... It's not about getting something for nothing, it's about converting the energy around us, into something we can use...
The last one was genius
Yeah, it was true genius to think of using an air hose to turn it ...
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Shit. Thanks man.
Damn XD
What a liar....
there is no last 1 everything he did was to explain the final work he had done on his small model
Wow, I guessed the music (Oxygene)
This uses a thing from electric motors . They use magnets as well but also electricity to generate magnetic field, when the magnet above is lifted up then there's way less magnetic power to stop the current rotation and therefore it moves forward and just a while after (when the rotator thing is right after the point where both distances touch eachother) the magnet is moved down and the speed increases. At beginning of the self running machine, the white plate starts the entire system since it's falling down and therefore causing the magnet to go down + pushes the rotor outside the distances middle point.
The motor continues to moving by the magnet because the distances between the highest magnetic power of the above magnet and the magnets below is higher.
There is no such thing as Perpetual Motion or do you really think planets rotate because of that? No, space turtles give each planet a push from time to time - every kid knows that :P
Evolution of Perpetual Motion: The end.
LMAO
Here is a summary of the work that has the title: How a computer can invent by itself (i.e. the Methods for developing inventions with the help of which three programmers can easily create a program using which a computer can invent many inventions by itself)
Let’s suppose that two such conditional propositions are written to the computer memory (and also other conditional propositions are written):
1) If: fire is placed under the stone, then: the stone will heat up.
2) If: the stone will heat up, then: the stone will expand.
Words of conditional proposition which stand from (i.e. after) the word «if» and before the word «then» are called the basis of conditional proposition, and words of conditional proposition that stand after the word «then» are called the consequence of conditional proposition.
Let’s suppose that computer should solve the following inventive task, i.e. the computer has to determine what needs to be done to have the following: the stone will expand (i.e. the computer has to determine how the following can be obtained: the stone will expand), let’s call this task the original inventive task (let’s assume that this task has not been solved yet). From the second conditional proposition it follows that in order for the computer to solve the original inventive task it is necessary for the computer to solve the following inventive task, i.e. it is necessary for the computer to determine what needs to be done to obtain the following: the stone will heat up (i.e. it is necessary for the computer to determine how the following can be obtained: the stone will be heated); let’s call this task the second inventive task. And (from the first conditional proposition it follows that) in order for the computer to solve the second inventive task, it is necessary for it to solve the following inventive task, i.e. it is necessary for the computer to determine what needs to be done to have the following: fire will be placed under a stone (let's call this problem the third inventive task). ))And the third inventive task has been solved, because it is known how to get the following: fire will be placed under a stone. And if the third inventive task has been solved, then the second inventive task has been solved too. And if the second inventive task has been solved, then the original inventive task has been solved too.
The Rule: Let’s take any inventive task (let's call this inventive task the fourth inventive task). In order for a computer to create an inventive task, having solved which it thereby solved the fourth inventive task, it is necessary for the computer to find in its own memory such a conditional proposition that has the following feature: the consequence of this conditional proposition and description of this fourth inventive task have the same meanings or consist of the same words which are located in the same sequence. And the basis of this conditional proposition will be an inventive task, having solved which the computer thereby solves the fourth inventive task. They have the same meanings: a) the word and interpretation of this the word b) synonyms and so on.
Computer can find the same words in its memory. Let's take any inventive task (let's call this inventive task the fifth inventive task). The computer will solve the fifth inventive task if it does the following: first, using this rule, it will create such an inventive task (let’s call this task the sixth inventive task), having solved which it thereby solves the fifth inventive task, then, using this rule, the computer will create such an inventive task, having solved which it thereby solved the sixth inventive task, etc., (on average 90 times) to the moment at which (i.e. until) the computer creates such an inventive task the solution of which is known, and if the computer creates such (i.e. the latter) inventive task, then the computer will solve the fifth inventive task. That is, the computer will solved the fifth (i.e. any) inventive task if it creates on average 90 such tasks.
Almost all currently known information (which is needed to create inventions) can be expressed in the form of conditional propositions. If, for example, 400 random physical effects in the form of conditional propositions are stored in the computer memory, then the computer can create on average a lot of inventions using this method (an average inventor knows 150 physical effects).
These experiments will become relevant in our daily lives.
how though? the thing will eventually stop spinning on it's own. plus if you try to tap energy from it, it will just stop.
This machine probably has a battery and motor inside the wheel, or it is being pushed with compressed air from off camera. That's why you get triply music instead of the video's real sound.
I'm sorry, but there is no such thing as a free energy generator. The energy must be coming from somewhere. This is a brilliant machine though.
Technically creating the generator isn't free, but in this case the energy is ultimately generated by two forces played in opposition to each other: gravity and magnetism. Because neither gravity nor magnetism requires its own energy source to operate the machine theoretically doesn't need to be fed by anything to keep running. I'm not sure this would work if it were rigged up to harness the energy, and I don't know if this process is actually producing energy at all. It could just be using gravity and magnetism to prolong the dissolution of the rotational energy from the wheel dropping into motion that first time.
Because the generator experiences friction each revolution, usable energy must be lost in the form of heat and probably sound. Energy must be constantly added to the system by some external force in order to maintain revolution. I don't claim to know what that is, but it must be. Also, the friction must cause decay on the system, meaning that it is not truly perpetual. At some point in time, parts need to be replaced.
Redbeard The Pink Yes that is essentially what is happing. This is basically an elaborate fly wheel which has no more energy stored in it then what is put into the system when the operator starts it spinning. Over time the wheel would come to a stop from air resistance. Connected to anything with an more fiction producing parts, such as a dynamo, it would come to a stop much sooner. Oddly enough NASA is looking at these magnet wheels, NOT as a means to produce energy (because they don't) but as an efficient means to store energy for long periods. Within a hard vacuum they would be spin for even longer and potentially could be used in new satellite designs. Satellites cost a lot of money to build, launch and operate so it helps if they can have a long lifespan. One of the biggest determining factors for that lifespan is the satellite's on board power. Potentially a magnetic flywheel could be spun up with large amounts of stored/potential energy on Earth, launched into orbit aboard a satellite and with a simple clutch could be connected to a dynamo when power was needed. The wheel would in effect be an on board battery but only because it was originally spun up with kinetic energy.
It's coming from the magnets ifself. They will slowely demagnetize and after a while, you will need new ones.
Where did you you come from? Either there has always been stuff or it came from nothing! Another possibility is we are limited by our imaginations and language.
Yeah the guy at the end worked it out, was wondering why they was all using thier hands. But all good work.
I thought the same but then I found this link in the comments and now it is obvious that the guy at the end is the biggest cheater 😆 i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18dtgs2p8d8s5jpg.jpg
Yes, compressed air most probably