Aaaaand Kurzweil make DX7 great again. The new FM standard in hardware as far as I'm concerned. Amazing. The Chorus, Reverb and Delay fader mapping on import is such a nice touch. So simple/elegant/useful. Keep up the great work guys.
The new/old sounds are great!! My beloved DX 7 is now worried about being exiled to a dusty corner of the studio, but she reminds me that she came with a rack, in contrast to the PC 4. And, she thinks that the PC 3 is heavy but beautiful while the PC 4 looks like a cheap toy with lots of lights. Best, Ray.
They probably won't do that and if they did it wouldn't be cheap. They're not a mass market manufacturer. I hope that doesn't sound elitist because that's not the case. They work hard to create a state of the art high standard and concentrate more on reliable quality than pervasive quantity. That's why legitimate professionals depend on them and are their primary market. Their customer satisfaction rate is highest in the business.
It is rather unlikely. That said you would be missing out on some of the things people usually take for granted with a Kurzweil. Amazing Midi implementation. As a controller Kurzweil is formidable. Also, the Fatar TP40L keybed is kind of unmatched if you need 88 keys with hammer action but also want to use it as a synth. Velocity response you can achieve with this keybed far exceeds any synth action keyboards around.
@@marvinkmooneyoz Yes but it was a general point. Fact is they sell models with the TP40 key bed. Grab yourself a Forte or PC3K8, or a PC3X etc and you're away. You have all the MIDI features that make Kurzweil a cut above the rest plus the key bed.
Is seems like almost every Kurzweil user using the Vast system has been doing so for years on previous boards. Where would a PC4 noob go to start learning about such things 😭😭
@@EverettDudgeon138 that, too! Especially if it comes with the full PC3, PC3LE + Kore sound set, too. Heck, even a module only will be fine. Dave, talk some sense into them.
@@truthmanifestingtruth montage design has ideal for me, and fantom x also. The most made me disapointed for me is cheap material. I have PC3k8 now which use very good material. I'm not talking about keybed. The medeli keybed is okay for me.
@@Hannynco Sorry to hear you feel that way - though your reaction is quite understandable, especially if you're approaching the PC4 as a flagship. I think some background info might be helpful here. I actually helped design the PC3K series and many of its presets - the PC4 IS DEFINITELY a step forward. The thing is, PC4 is not the flagship - it is the mid-level lightweight board in Kurzweil's lineup, a very important product. Most companies have something similar (MODX, Krome, etc) For many years, including the time that I worked for Kurzweil R&D, the company received a HUGE number of requests from a LOT of dealers and customers for a few models, including a workstation like PC4, that are very lightweight. For these people, boards like PC3K8 (54 lbs) are too heavy, and boards like Montage8 (a whopping 63lbs!!) are completely out of the question. The PC4's enclosure is plastic, to get the weight down, but the manufacturing quality is quite high. Lots of advances have been made in the past decade with plastic manufacturing - I've heard zero complaints from PC4 owners about build quality. For players who want the heavier instrument, with the higher-end action, Kurzweil has the flagship Forte. It uses the same TP40L action as the PC3K, and has a metal enclosure. (Forte also includes 16GB of sample ROM compared to PC4's 2GB.) Remember: the PC4 is not the flagship - it is the mid-level lightweight board. Of course many artists and productions (including the theater shows that I work on) still prefer the heavier boards like PC3K8 and Forte. But many working musicians NEED a lightweight workstation, and the PC4 addresses this need perfectly. Hopefully this info and context provides some better insight into the Kurzweil product lineup. Feel free to shoot me an email anytime if you have questions or need more info. Cheers! weiserdav@gmail.com www.weisersound.com
@@_oscillator The TP40 is used in the flagship Forte, and I'm sure it will appear again on future models. The whole purpose of the PC4 was to be lightweight and affordable. When I worked for Kurzweil R&D I learned that the action is the heaviest and most expensive component of any keyboard instrument. So it totally makes sense that if they wanted to get the price and weight down for this particular model, a different action had to be used. The Medeli shaves off a bunch of cost and weight while not sacrificing too much in the way of feel. Previous attempts at this sort of thing did not always go well. The Forte SE used the TP100 action - it didn't cut down on weight or cost very much and it felt terrible. The SE was a sales disaster. The PC4 corrects all of the missteps from the SE, it's selling really well and has been very well received.
I was looking at the Korg Opsix for FM fun, but then I remembered my Kurzweil PC4 can do it all and more! Thanks Kurzweil engineers!
Aaaaand Kurzweil make DX7 great again. The new FM standard in hardware as far as I'm concerned. Amazing. The Chorus, Reverb and Delay fader mapping on import is such a nice touch. So simple/elegant/useful. Keep up the great work guys.
kurzweil is so versatile !!!!!
The new/old sounds are great!! My beloved DX 7 is now worried about being exiled to a dusty corner of the studio, but she reminds me that she came with a rack, in contrast to the PC 4. And, she thinks that the PC 3 is heavy but beautiful while the PC 4 looks like a cheap toy with lots of lights.
Best,
Ray.
Would love if you guys made a desktop module of your sounds.
They probably won't do that and if they did it wouldn't be cheap. They're not a mass market manufacturer. I hope that doesn't sound elitist because that's not the case. They work hard to create a state of the art high standard and concentrate more on reliable quality than pervasive quantity. That's why legitimate professionals depend on them and are their primary market. Their customer satisfaction rate is highest in the business.
It is rather unlikely. That said you would be missing out on some of the things people usually take for granted with a Kurzweil. Amazing Midi implementation. As a controller Kurzweil is formidable. Also, the Fatar TP40L keybed is kind of unmatched if you need 88 keys with hammer action but also want to use it as a synth. Velocity response you can achieve with this keybed far exceeds any synth action keyboards around.
@@Screaming-Trees They aren't using Fatar for the PC4, it's Medeli
NelsonClick Dexibell isn’t a mass market manufacturer and they have a desktop/rackmount module.
@@marvinkmooneyoz Yes but it was a general point. Fact is they sell models with the TP40 key bed. Grab yourself a Forte or PC3K8, or a PC3X etc and you're away. You have all the MIDI features that make Kurzweil a cut above the rest plus the key bed.
Is there a polyphony difference when using a sampled FM piano (for example) over the FM engine?
Is seems like almost every Kurzweil user using the Vast system has been doing so for years on previous boards. Where would a PC4 noob go to start learning about such things 😭😭
So does the pc4 have VA and FM?
SUPER !
Is it possible to split and layer simultaneously? Example bass/ piano split with a pad underneath the piano.
Yes, it is
I'm waiting for either Kurzweil or Yamaha to release a simple and affordable 61 note keyboard with just the FM engine on it :'D
Korg already did.
I have not been able to find the banks setting to save and change my favorite sinidos you can help me
Does import DX7 mk2 sysex and also mk1?
minun musiikia Voi kuunella Facebookista.
Why no 61-key version?
Give it synth style keys and I'll buy it for the FM alone
It would be nice to see a 49 or 61 synth action version.
@@EverettDudgeon138 that, too! Especially if it comes with the full PC3, PC3LE + Kore sound set, too. Heck, even a module only will be fine.
Dave, talk some sense into them.
@@zdravkodimitrov It can load all that sounds ;) kurzweil.com/pc4/
PC4-7 is what you want.
the design is so ugly...come on kurz..this is 2020
Hanny nco the design is straightforward. The subtle colors work on stage. What board has a design that is closer to your ideal?
@@truthmanifestingtruth montage design has ideal for me, and fantom x also. The most made me disapointed for me is cheap material. I have PC3k8 now which use very good material. I'm not talking about keybed. The medeli keybed is okay for me.
@@_oscillator indeed....PC 4 is really stepbackward from PC3K series
@@Hannynco Sorry to hear you feel that way - though your reaction is quite understandable, especially if you're approaching the PC4 as a flagship. I think some background info might be helpful here. I actually helped design the PC3K series and many of its presets - the PC4 IS DEFINITELY a step forward. The thing is, PC4 is not the flagship - it is the mid-level lightweight board in Kurzweil's lineup, a very important product. Most companies have something similar (MODX, Krome, etc) For many years, including the time that I worked for Kurzweil R&D, the company received a HUGE number of requests from a LOT of dealers and customers for a few models, including a workstation like PC4, that are very lightweight. For these people, boards like PC3K8 (54 lbs) are too heavy, and boards like Montage8 (a whopping 63lbs!!) are completely out of the question. The PC4's enclosure is plastic, to get the weight down, but the manufacturing quality is quite high. Lots of advances have been made in the past decade with plastic manufacturing - I've heard zero complaints from PC4 owners about build quality. For players who want the heavier instrument, with the higher-end action, Kurzweil has the flagship Forte. It uses the same TP40L action as the PC3K, and has a metal enclosure. (Forte also includes 16GB of sample ROM compared to PC4's 2GB.) Remember: the PC4 is not the flagship - it is the mid-level lightweight board. Of course many artists and productions (including the theater shows that I work on) still prefer the heavier boards like PC3K8 and Forte. But many working musicians NEED a lightweight workstation, and the PC4 addresses this need perfectly. Hopefully this info and context provides some better insight into the Kurzweil product lineup. Feel free to shoot me an email anytime if you have questions or need more info. Cheers! weiserdav@gmail.com www.weisersound.com
@@_oscillator The TP40 is used in the flagship Forte, and I'm sure it will appear again on future models. The whole purpose of the PC4 was to be lightweight and affordable. When I worked for Kurzweil R&D I learned that the action is the heaviest and most expensive component of any keyboard instrument. So it totally makes sense that if they wanted to get the price and weight down for this particular model, a different action had to be used. The Medeli shaves off a bunch of cost and weight while not sacrificing too much in the way of feel. Previous attempts at this sort of thing did not always go well. The Forte SE used the TP100 action - it didn't cut down on weight or cost very much and it felt terrible. The SE was a sales disaster. The PC4 corrects all of the missteps from the SE, it's selling really well and has been very well received.