The Seventh Doctor is *absolutely* the gift that keeps on giving. Over and over his era has stuff that feels too good to be true, like, in this particular case, the best Dalek story since the 60s (imho). Also McCoy himself is brilliant, and only in her second-ever story Ace has immediately catapulted into standout companion status. Hurrah for the 25th anniversary season! One of my top three seasons of Doctor Who of all time (they’re all Classic ones)
The nostalgia hits in this story were all quite deliberate, as it went out in October 1988, just weeks before the show’s 25th anniversary, and the production team therefore wanted an adventure which would effectively bring everything back to where it all began - Professor Jensen (played by Pamela Salem, who had previously appeared in The Robots of Death), even has a hairstyle similar to Barbara’s. The pre-title sequence immediately serves to demonstrate that Who had found new purpose and self-confidence after a very difficult, turbulent few years, and the seventh Doctor and Ace show straightaway that they will be a great team. The cliffhanger is celebrated as the moment the old jibe about Daleks being unable to climb stairs was definitively laid to rest…
I always think of this era (inc Trial of a Timelord) as being broadcast just after returning to school from the 6 week summer holiday break. Trial started on Sat 6th Sept '86, Time and the Rani was Mon 7th Sept '87 but this season started on Weds 5th Oct '88. I guess this was done so a certain story later in this season would be broadcast on the day of the 25th anniversary - Weds 23rd Nov '88.
I liked the location for this story and it is awesome, and the Daleks are voiced by three different actors Brian Miller who appeared in Snakedance as Dugdale and was for many years the husband of Liz Sladen who played Sarah Jane Smith for 3 and a half years before she left. I noticed pamela Salem who plays Rachel Jensen was in the 4th Doctor story Robots of Death as Toos and she was in Blake,s 7 in Cygnus Alpha as Kara the priestess who got speared .
19:14 - you probably knew this ages ago by now but yes George Sewell was a panelist on Whodunnit. At the time this went out he was a regular in an ITV comedy series "Home James".
So many people have already said so much about this episode, so I won't repeat it all, other than I remember at the time of it being aired there was alot of excitement because the programme was harking back to Classic Who so much. So many references, to the past, I know you will enjoy this story. Like you, we miss Mel, but the 7th and Ace work well together in this one. For me, this story is definately the hi-light of this season.
Re George Sewell he was an actor who appeared in lots of 70s UK TV shows. Best known to SF fans for his role as Colonel Freeman in Gerry Anderson’s UFO
I think what you're describing is the commonly referenced 'suspension of disbelief'; our ability to see a load of tinsel in the Timelash and overlook it completely. This story already has lines about 'the Zygon gambit with the Loch Ness Monster' (I didn't need to go and rewatch - we have it committed to memory!) and the climax of that story featured what was essentially a hand-puppet. By 1988 - and this was the period, incidentally, when Dr Who briefly topped the UK Singles chart - the whole thing was essentially backwards-looking. But we take respite in it. With the future unknown and the present uncertain, a comfortable past has an appeal all of its own.
This season was released in 1988, which was the 25th anniversary of the series. That's why this story is filled with so many references. The season kicked off with an "anniversary story."
Speaking of Grange Hill, Michael Sheard who appears in this story as the caretaker of Coal Hill, was well known at the time (and still today) for his role as Mr Bronson in that show. Sheard had also previously appeared in Doctor Who in The Ark, The Mind of Evil, Pyramids of Mars, The Invisible Enemy and Castrovalva
When this first went out I was so impressed with the soldier getting exterminated and being thrown back into the corrugated iron. He was played by stuntman Tip Tipping who did stunt work in the film Aliens. He was sadly killed in the early 90s in a parachuting accident
This story and a later one are effectively the 25th anniversary stories. When this takes place in 1963 will be made very clear later on. But there was definitely a Dalek in I M Foreman's junkyard and in coal Hill School.... so. :)
This is the 25th Anniversary season u r watching. So many callbacks in this episode. It is set in November 1963, shortly after the first episode. Can't say any more without spoilers
As this story set pretty much after Ian and Barbara left, Unit didn't exist at this point in time. Ace also mentioned this story in power when she met Graham. "Want to see how I dealt with them in 1963". Also I had a crush on tbe actor who played Mike. So sad the actor died :(
Depends on what you mean by "after Ian and Barbara left." If you mean left London with #1 and Susan, then yes, you are correct. If you mean after they left the Doctor, then no, that was 1965 (both in-story and irl).
This was the first DW that I recorded off the telly. I saw the "Tonight on BBC1" trailer, screamed when I saw the Daleks and grabbed a video to record it on. The cliffhanger is one of my most rewatched moment of the whole show - it still gives me goosebumps.
Easily the best story since Androzani. At the time I didn't believe Doctor Who was still capable of impressing me that much. Then along came Remembrance!
@Norman David Tidiman Not for me. I do think Revelation is good and probably the best Colin Baker story but I think Remembrance is much better. I guess in the end it's just down to personal taste.
I just watched dragon fire yesterday because I got the ace adventure box.set for Oxfam charity shop in Sherwood nothingham and I watch dragon fire all the way through on dvd yesterday and I really enjoyed it and I love remembrance of the daleks it is my favourite daleks story from the 1980st era of doctor who classic and I love Terry
I adore Remembrance. It's fascinating to see how much this story alone influenced the portrayal of the Daleks in New Who namely - The first on screen visualisation of Daleks hovering up stairs - The look of the display for a Dalek POV - An early attempt to show a skeletal outline when someone is exterminated.
This was huge being the first time we ever saw a daleks fly up the stairs! Finally took 25 years. But yes this story is something of a unofficial anniversary story for the show now it was a quarter of a century old
18:17 - funnily enough the special effects department got into trouble on this story as they badly overspent (but then it's a story that demanded a lot of them)
I remember seeing this story when it was first transmitted and I turned 19 years of age, at the time I do wish I could have been older like 20 plus or instead of only been 19 at the time this season was broadcast. I also was amused how the Daleks had learnt to climb, stairs and the setting in the school is awesome too.
I do like the locations in this story, and also Slyvester MCCoy has really settled into the role of the 7th Doctor and although I miss Mel and wish the welsh lass Ray from Delta and the Bannermen has become the Drs new companion a sadly missed opportunity but we got what we got.
Personally, I love Happiness Patrol (8/10), Greatest Show (9/10), and Remembrance (10/10), with Greatest Show being my overall favourite of the season. I don't 'hate' Silver Nemesis, but it's basically just a poor, messy, shredded, chaotic version of Remembrance. Season 26 is objectively better, and also has my favourite DW story, but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say I liked Season 25 just a tiny bit more overall. Meanwhile, Season 24 is a bit niche. People who really like off-the-wall campy chaos tend to love it, but it's not the best option for traditional/serious fans.
The unofficial 25 anniversary story , its just AMAZING!! The whole dalek civil , action is great ! That cliffhanger, and they said daleks couldn't climb stairs.
Well, technically, they can't, they hover up them. Joking aside though, I was blown away the first time I saw this moment in which they finally addressed decades of jokes about the Daleks' plans to conquer the universe being stumped by a flight of 3 stairs! Funny thing is I actually have a "Mandela effect" moment with this scene: I could have sworn the first time I saw this, the Doctor taunted the Dalek from the top of the stairs by saying, "If you're the supreme being in the universe, let's see you get past that!" and then the Dalek started hovering. Obviously, I was wrong, but that image is still so clear in my head! The only explanation I have is that a friend of mine back in the early 90s, quoted that to me, and somehow that became real in my mind! 🤔
This story wasn't the one to air on the 25th anniversary - that's later in the season - but it's definitely the one to celebrate it, hence all the callbacks and references to the show's history. On top of that, it's a really excellent story!
The seventh Doctor arrives after the first leaves but he is back there for a reason, this version of The Doctor knows what is going on while everyone is speculating, he pretends he knows nothing about it. Oh There's a Dalek and he looks scared and surprised but he really knew they were there, it's really cunning what he does later we never get to see that with another Doctor in the show ever!.
I would guess a lot of the Third Doctor nostalgia comes from how 7 effortlessly slotted into the counter-measures team like 3 had with the UNIT family. Season 25 really was a new apex for the show, at least as the common wisdom shows, and honestly it does feel very fresh and more purposeful in its writing
A Dalek going up stairs for the first time. One of my favourite stories. I'm going to be meeting Sophie Aldred aka Ace this weekend (Bonnie Langford and Colin Baker too). There are some classic momets in this
Maaaan, I have been waiting for you to reach this story! One of my favourite of all time. You've finished this on Patreon so I don't mind saying this. Season 25 starts with a proper bang and I love this one.
How could I forget the Mr Bronson from Grangehill was in this story. I love this story and have been looking forward to seeing your reactions to this story arc.
These last two seasons for me feel like the bridge to the 2005 return, there's a real energy and engagement to try and make something meaningful and modern. We get the very first unambiguous Dalek heading upstairs, making for a stunning cliffhanger. This is one of my all time favourite stories.
Thank's for a great reaction. Stories like these are why the 7th Doctor is my doctor. Grew up with his episodes on my old VCR back during the wilderness years in the 1990's. I'm so glad they brought McCoy back to the 13th Doctor's final episode.
I've a feeling he was based on several people, but Dursley McLinden is the really apparent influence because he was a promising young actor, and of course Ritchie in It's a Sin is shown appearing in a Doctor Who Dalek story circa 1988...
Holy shit, that was a rabbit hole, I had no idea. I quite fancied him watching this. I had no idea he was LGBT, or what he went through, poor bloke. Makes the ending of the story all the more sadder too
This is such a good story. I almost missed this episode on first broadcast because there was a thunder and lightning storm... my parents never allowed the TV to be plugged in during lightning... Thankfully the storm stopped just in time. :)
And meanwhile in Australia, during episode 4, there WAS a lightning storm (I lived in Darwin - it was always lighting storm this, lightning storm that), and we had several large lightning strikes during the climax to the story, some of which caused the TV/VCR to cut out temporarily. So it was not until the VHS was released that I got to fully appreciate my rice pudding.
This is by far my favorite Who story, classic or modern. And the 3rd Doctor is my favorite too. Yes this story is chock full of nostalgia, on purpose. But what's truly interesting is that the writer was a novice who turned in an ambitious script (for 80s Who facing budget cuts) and yet they basically shot it as written and he was new enough to not even realize that usually there is push back to keep costs down.
This was a fantastic story best dalek story since genesis great we are back in 1963 but these last few seasons are the best well apart from one story this season btw George sewell was in whodunnit not sure where you are in the seasons but in for a surprise when someone big appears as a guest in that series from dr who
Now that you’re finishing Classic Who on Patreon, will you be listening to some of the audio dramas from the 70’s, 80’s, & 90’s? These predate Big Finish, feature original cast members & are now available on iTunes, RUclips, Audible, etc. Ones you might find particularly of interest, without spoilers: 1976 (46 min) originally on vinyl 1985 (six 10 min eps) BBC Radio 1993 (five 30 min eps) BBC Radio 1996 (six 30 min eps) BBC Radio
I suspect she'd really enjoy the 1993 one - for me it goes a bit off-track quite fast but I absolutely love the first episode and I can remember listening to it at the time... it really was like Doctor Who had come back, and marked a few short years when Jon Pertwee seemed to unofficially be the official Doctor once again, with various appearances...
The Dalek voices in this Dalek story, are Brian Miller, Roy Skelton and Royce Mills, Brian Miller was in the mara story Snakedance as Dugdale and he was for many years married to Liz Sladen who was Sarah Jane Smith from season 11 to 14 before she left and returned for K-9 and Company and also the 5 Doctors and the Sarah Jane Adventures . I think the little girl is called Felicity or even Bryony as a possible name for her.
I've been waiting for this one. It's my all time favourite doctor who story of all time. I can't wait to see your reaction to this story. This story is excellent.
Your reaction reminded me of an old Ed Grimley moment on SCTV: sb offers him a Zagnut, and he says, "I'm gonna go mental! This is, like, my all-time favorite favorite candy bar of all times!"
A truly wonderful story. I know that you're well past this on your Patreon, so your questions about when this is set have been answered by now. The references and homages are 100% deliberate. George Sewell was on Whodunnit, so your memory isn't playing you false.
As an 80's child, that cliffhanger was the very first bit of Doctor Who I ever saw on TV growing up, and whenever I hear the word "Dalek", I think of that Dalek voice by Roy Skelton in the cliffhanger. Seeing as we're one season behind you on RUclips, I wager you've already gotten the answers to all the questions by now. Either way, Remembrance of the Daleks is arguably the best bridge between the Classic + New Series. It's an explosive Dalek adventure with great writing, characters, twists, and action - and Ace's first main adventure as our new ass-kicking rebel (who has plenty of iconic moments throughout). One of the best Classic stories / McCoy stories / Dalek stories. Take your pick!
Yep! I have 2 nicknames for this story: 1. The birth of the "dodgy Doctor," in which the narrative about the Doctor, especially regarding his reasons for breaking away from the Time Lords, shifts toward something darker than him disagreeing with their policies. 2. "Depth to the Daleks," in which the Daleks become more than a bunch of salt shakers shouting, "Exterminate!" They begin to evolve and think more, and we begin to see more complexity in their society.
@@seanryan3020 The civil war has always been an interesting angle. We've already had plenty of stories about Daleks wanting to wipe out everyone or everything else, so it's nice to see them trying to comprehend their own imperfections.
This was the 25 anniversary of who. Set in 1963 when the series first aired. The opening is a speech by John F Kennedy who was assassinated on the day the first episode was shown. It’s one of the best classic era stories and where McCoy really nailed the role
I hope Marie-Clare you enjoy the rest of the classic Dr Who stories that are left to watch and also the rest of the episodes of Blake,s Seven and Sapphire and Steel.
There's a couple of things about this story that stand out apart from how brilliant it is. First it's the first Doctor Who story to be broadcast in stereo. I hooked it up to my hi fi at the time and the sound of the explosions was amazing. I think you could hear it all the way down the street! Also you see the van that Mike was in when the Dalek shot at him? My Dad told me he used to drive a van like that when he was younger. He would've been 23 back in 1963.
This is one of the best.Check out the scene where the Dr is uncertain and dithering ànd gets the best bit of advice from the cafe owner about getting on with life.The effects look a bit dated now but in 1988 they were the best we had.This story takes place just after the very first episode in 1963.
The series started getting really good again starting with this episode. The scripts got better, and Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred had a chemistry that had been missing for years. Honestly, probably since Tom Baker and Lalla Ward. Unfortunately, the BBC had it out for Dr. Who by now and we're not far from the end.
An often missed call back to a different series is “I wish Bernard was here.” “British Rocket Group has its own problems. Referencing Bernard Quatermass of the series Quatermass. As we move into the celebration of the silver anniversary of Doctor Who the throwback are coming thick and fast, no coincidence as to character names either. You will find out exactly when this story is set. The story is the first to clearly put an end to ridiculing Daleks vs stairs however it is not the first time we have seen a Dalek levitate. In Revelation we had a levitating Dalek in the room killing Grigory and Natasha and more obviously the real Davros was shown levitating over Orcini. Regular Michael Sheard returns for a final appearance as the Headmaster. Pamela Salem having played deputy commander Toos in 4’s The Robots of Death. References so far include the Doctor referring to Group Captain Gilmore as Brigadier Coal Hill School Ace picking up Susan’s book Totters Lane I.M Foreman’s yard (Misspelled) Omega Incidentally the visual effects shot of stunt performer Tip Tipping being shot by a Dalek was the first of its kind and was so expensive by comparison to the series budget that the effect could not be repeated. Finally just to note I have been waiting for your reaction to this story more than any other, including the multi Doctor stories you have reacted to. This story is certainly one of the very best and I look forward to enlightening you as the next episodes are reviewed hold on tight this story just gets better and better. I suggest that once you have everyone’s input that you rewatch the story in one sitting and you’ll realise how well Ben Aaronovitch has written it, quite brilliant and plenty still to come.
One of the best Dalek stories. Ace is iconic. She must be a Ramones fan. Beat on the brat (or Dalek) with a baseball bat. On a serious note it shows the insanity of racism and fascism.
this story takes place after An Unearthly Child, there is a small reference to it you missed in this episode, The Doctor and Ace are in the science classroom, Ace quickly looks at a book about The French Revolution because it had been left their by Susan
The change in tone from Season 24 to Season 25 is more stark than almost any season change in the history of Doctor Who (probably Season 6 to Season 7 has a big change with the whole cast, the sci-fi all becoming Earth bound and the change from black and white to colour, but other than that I think this is the biggest other change). It's like a completely different programme to Season 24. And so much better for it. McCoy even plays it like a completely different person (and again, better for it).
After the massive disappointment of the previous season watching this was an utter joy. My show was back. I loved it in 1988 and I love it just as much now
Just hold on, everything will be revealed! I still have this serial on vhs, taped directly off the telly (because my mum was watching Corrie so we couldn't actually watch it). Obviously I've not had a vcr for years, but that tape got a lot of use in the 90s
George sewall was also Jasper carrot and Robert Powell's boss in their comedy The Detectives, very funny. 1993, and also was in the si FI series UFO 1970 ,
I was fifteen (and a half) when this went out and I went to bed that night with a great sense of excitement that the show was back on track. Over six million had tuned in for the start of Dr Who's promotional 25th season (a model, in some respects, for later celebrations) and it seems not one of them remember the Dalek climbing the stairs at the end - To the point that Bob Shearman and Russell T Davies had to make a big point out of it all over again over 15 years later. But Season 24 had been a disappointment to me - bordering on embarrassment at school - and now it seemed everything was going to be fine...
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Also, when Ace picks up the book in the chemistry lab, that was an homage to Susan reading it in an Unearthly Child :)
The Seventh Doctor is *absolutely* the gift that keeps on giving. Over and over his era has stuff that feels too good to be true, like, in this particular case, the best Dalek story since the 60s (imho). Also McCoy himself is brilliant, and only in her second-ever story Ace has immediately catapulted into standout companion status.
Hurrah for the 25th anniversary season! One of my top three seasons of Doctor Who of all time (they’re all Classic ones)
This story is set the morning after Ian and Babs were kidnapped. The grey Dalek was in Totters Lane looking for the Tardis and the Hand of Omega.
The nostalgia hits in this story were all quite deliberate, as it went out in October 1988, just weeks before the show’s 25th anniversary, and the production team therefore wanted an adventure which would effectively bring everything back to where it all began - Professor Jensen (played by Pamela Salem, who had previously appeared in The Robots of Death), even has a hairstyle similar to Barbara’s. The pre-title sequence immediately serves to demonstrate that Who had found new purpose and self-confidence after a very difficult, turbulent few years, and the seventh Doctor and Ace show straightaway that they will be a great team. The cliffhanger is celebrated as the moment the old jibe about Daleks being unable to climb stairs was definitively laid to rest…
One of Seven's best stories, McCoy has really perfected the role now.
I’ve tried to like McCoy, I just don’t believe him as an actor. I want to like him, as I like some of his stories (such as this one)
I always think of this era (inc Trial of a Timelord) as being broadcast just after returning to school from the 6 week summer holiday break. Trial started on Sat 6th Sept '86, Time and the Rani was Mon 7th Sept '87 but this season started on Weds 5th Oct '88. I guess this was done so a certain story later in this season would be broadcast on the day of the 25th anniversary - Weds 23rd Nov '88.
I liked the location for this story and it is awesome, and the Daleks are voiced by three different actors Brian Miller who appeared in Snakedance as Dugdale and was for many years the husband of Liz Sladen who played Sarah Jane Smith for 3 and a half years before she left. I noticed pamela Salem who plays Rachel Jensen was in the 4th Doctor story Robots of Death as Toos and she was in Blake,s 7 in Cygnus Alpha as Kara the priestess who got speared .
You might recognize Professor Rachel Jensen as Pamela Salem who also played Toos from Robots of Death.
19:14 - you probably knew this ages ago by now but yes George Sewell was a panelist on Whodunnit. At the time this went out he was a regular in an ITV comedy series "Home James".
So many people have already said so much about this episode, so I won't repeat it all, other than I remember at the time of it being aired there was alot of excitement because the programme was harking back to Classic Who so much. So many references, to the past, I know you will enjoy this story. Like you, we miss Mel, but the 7th and Ace work well together in this one. For me, this story is definately the hi-light of this season.
Re George Sewell he was an actor who appeared in lots of 70s UK TV shows. Best known to SF fans for his role as Colonel Freeman in Gerry Anderson’s UFO
I think what you're describing is the commonly referenced 'suspension of disbelief'; our ability to see a load of tinsel in the Timelash and overlook it completely. This story already has lines about 'the Zygon gambit with the Loch Ness Monster' (I didn't need to go and rewatch - we have it committed to memory!) and the climax of that story featured what was essentially a hand-puppet. By 1988 - and this was the period, incidentally, when Dr Who briefly topped the UK Singles chart - the whole thing was essentially backwards-looking. But we take respite in it. With the future unknown and the present uncertain, a comfortable past has an appeal all of its own.
This season was released in 1988, which was the 25th anniversary of the series. That's why this story is filled with so many references. The season kicked off with an "anniversary story."
George Sewell was in loads of tv shows but I remember him from the comedy the detectives with Jasper Carrott and Robert Powell.
Welcome to the beginning of one of the best ever Doctor Who stories.
By far my favourite 7th doctor story
Speaking of Grange Hill, Michael Sheard who appears in this story as the caretaker of Coal Hill, was well known at the time (and still today) for his role as Mr Bronson in that show. Sheard had also previously appeared in Doctor Who in The Ark, The Mind of Evil, Pyramids of Mars, The Invisible Enemy and Castrovalva
He was also the 'go-to' man to play Hitler. Most famously in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
When this first went out I was so impressed with the soldier getting exterminated and being thrown back into the corrugated iron. He was played by stuntman Tip Tipping who did stunt work in the film Aliens. He was sadly killed in the early 90s in a parachuting accident
With a name like "Tip Tipping", he just _had_ to become a stuntman, didn't he? :)
Being set in 1963, this is pre-UNIT, so they're just regular military.
This story and a later one are effectively the 25th anniversary stories. When this takes place in 1963 will be made very clear later on. But there was definitely a Dalek in I M Foreman's junkyard and in coal Hill School.... so. :)
One of, if not the greatest cliffhangers of all time..
This is the 25th Anniversary season u r watching. So many callbacks in this episode. It is set in November 1963, shortly after the first episode. Can't say any more without spoilers
As this story set pretty much after Ian and Barbara left, Unit didn't exist at this point in time. Ace also mentioned this story in power when she met Graham. "Want to see how I dealt with them in 1963".
Also I had a crush on tbe actor who played Mike. So sad the actor died :(
Depends on what you mean by "after Ian and Barbara left." If you mean left London with #1 and Susan, then yes, you are correct.
If you mean after they left the Doctor, then no, that was 1965 (both in-story and irl).
@@seanryan3020 it's pretty obvious I meant the former...
@@Joey15811 It wasn't obvious to me.
This was the first DW that I recorded off the telly. I saw the "Tonight on BBC1" trailer, screamed when I saw the Daleks and grabbed a video to record it on. The cliffhanger is one of my most rewatched moment of the whole show - it still gives me goosebumps.
Easily the best story since Androzani. At the time I didn't believe Doctor Who was still capable of impressing me that much. Then along came Remembrance!
Colin's Dalek story was 💯 % better
@Norman David Tidiman Not for me. I do think Revelation is good and probably the best Colin Baker story but I think Remembrance is much better. I guess in the end it's just down to personal taste.
@@madran7731 For me,this is another Eastenders meets Doctor Who 😫 Not keen on McCoy to start with,let alone f*****g Ace,so that marks this down.
@@normandavidtidiman9918I agree. All this bollocks with the Hand of Omega and levitating coffins is just rubbish.
I just watched dragon fire yesterday because I got the ace adventure box.set for Oxfam charity shop in Sherwood nothingham and I watch dragon fire all the way through on dvd yesterday and I really enjoyed it and I love remembrance of the daleks it is my favourite daleks story from the 1980st era of doctor who classic and I love Terry
I've been waiting ages for you to react to this story, absolutely brilliant, one of my all time favourites. Take note of the name of the junk yard.
I adore Remembrance. It's fascinating to see how much this story alone influenced the portrayal of the Daleks in New Who namely
- The first on screen visualisation of Daleks hovering up stairs
- The look of the display for a Dalek POV
- An early attempt to show a skeletal outline when someone is exterminated.
This was huge being the first time we ever saw a daleks fly up the stairs! Finally took 25 years.
But yes this story is something of a unofficial anniversary story for the show now it was a quarter of a century old
Foiled by autocorrect!
One of the few stories with pre-titles sequence plus one of my first classic stories I saw
18:17 - funnily enough the special effects department got into trouble on this story as they badly overspent (but then it's a story that demanded a lot of them)
I remember seeing this story when it was first transmitted and I turned 19 years of age, at the time I do wish I could have been older like 20 plus or instead of only been 19 at the time this season was broadcast. I also was amused how the Daleks had learnt to climb, stairs and the setting in the school is awesome too.
I do like the locations in this story, and also Slyvester MCCoy has really settled into the role of the 7th Doctor and although I miss Mel and wish the welsh lass Ray from Delta and the Bannermen has become the Drs new companion a sadly missed opportunity but we got what we got.
Season 25 is underrated, this is one of my favorite 7th Doctor stories
Personally, I love Happiness Patrol (8/10), Greatest Show (9/10), and Remembrance (10/10), with Greatest Show being my overall favourite of the season. I don't 'hate' Silver Nemesis, but it's basically just a poor, messy, shredded, chaotic version of Remembrance. Season 26 is objectively better, and also has my favourite DW story, but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say I liked Season 25 just a tiny bit more overall. Meanwhile, Season 24 is a bit niche. People who really like off-the-wall campy chaos tend to love it, but it's not the best option for traditional/serious fans.
The unofficial 25 anniversary story , its just AMAZING!! The whole dalek civil , action is great !
That cliffhanger, and they said daleks couldn't climb stairs.
Well, technically, they can't, they hover up them.
Joking aside though, I was blown away the first time I saw this moment in which they finally addressed decades of jokes about the Daleks' plans to conquer the universe being stumped by a flight of 3 stairs!
Funny thing is I actually have a "Mandela effect" moment with this scene: I could have sworn the first time I saw this, the Doctor taunted the Dalek from the top of the stairs by saying, "If you're the supreme being in the universe, let's see you get past that!" and then the Dalek started hovering. Obviously, I was wrong, but that image is still so clear in my head! The only explanation I have is that a friend of mine back in the early 90s, quoted that to me, and somehow that became real in my mind! 🤔
This story wasn't the one to air on the 25th anniversary - that's later in the season - but it's definitely the one to celebrate it, hence all the callbacks and references to the show's history. On top of that, it's a really excellent story!
The seventh Doctor arrives after the first leaves but he is back there for a reason, this version of The Doctor knows what is going on while everyone is speculating, he pretends he knows nothing about it. Oh There's a Dalek and he looks scared and surprised but he really knew they were there, it's really cunning what he does later we never get to see that with another Doctor in the show ever!.
Every time you apologise for the lighting it's the lighting I prefer. Watching Doctor and TV in general in evening adds to the mood.
Actually, the shadows on the wall remind me of the "round things" in the classic Who TARDIS!
I would guess a lot of the Third Doctor nostalgia comes from how 7 effortlessly slotted into the counter-measures team like 3 had with the UNIT family. Season 25 really was a new apex for the show, at least as the common wisdom shows, and honestly it does feel very fresh and more purposeful in its writing
A fantastic story and a magnificent way to start off S25. This may be my second favourite Dalek story after Genesis
A Dalek going up stairs for the first time. One of my favourite stories. I'm going to be meeting Sophie Aldred aka Ace this weekend (Bonnie Langford and Colin Baker too). There are some classic momets in this
Best era of the show. Welcome 😊
Maaaan, I have been waiting for you to reach this story! One of my favourite of all time. You've finished this on Patreon so I don't mind saying this. Season 25 starts with a proper bang and I love this one.
This was the 25th year anniversary of the show. You will find out more in other parts
How could I forget the Mr Bronson from Grangehill was in this story. I love this story and have been looking forward to seeing your reactions to this story arc.
These last two seasons for me feel like the bridge to the 2005 return, there's a real energy and engagement to try and make something meaningful and modern. We get the very first unambiguous Dalek heading upstairs, making for a stunning cliffhanger. This is one of my all time favourite stories.
A seminal adventure. The McCoy/Aldred partnership hits the ground running.
Thank's for a great reaction. Stories like these are why the 7th Doctor is my doctor. Grew up with his episodes on my old VCR back during the wilderness years in the 1990's. I'm so glad they brought McCoy back to the 13th Doctor's final episode.
Also the actor who plays Mike in this story was the actor that RTD based Ritchie on from It's a sin.
Wow I did not know this!
I've a feeling he was based on several people, but Dursley McLinden is the really apparent influence because he was a promising young actor, and of course Ritchie in It's a Sin is shown appearing in a Doctor Who Dalek story circa 1988...
@@petersvillage7447 oh gosh… I hadn’t even clicked at that!
Holy shit, that was a rabbit hole, I had no idea. I quite fancied him watching this. I had no idea he was LGBT, or what he went through, poor bloke. Makes the ending of the story all the more sadder too
I'm sure you have found out, of course, that yes, this was right after the first Doctor's visit.
This is such a good story. I almost missed this episode on first broadcast because there was a thunder and lightning storm... my parents never allowed the TV to be plugged in during lightning... Thankfully the storm stopped just in time. :)
And meanwhile in Australia, during episode 4, there WAS a lightning storm (I lived in Darwin - it was always lighting storm this, lightning storm that), and we had several large lightning strikes during the climax to the story, some of which caused the TV/VCR to cut out temporarily. So it was not until the VHS was released that I got to fully appreciate my rice pudding.
This is by far my favorite Who story, classic or modern. And the 3rd Doctor is my favorite too.
Yes this story is chock full of nostalgia, on purpose. But what's truly interesting is that the writer was a novice who turned in an ambitious script (for 80s Who facing budget cuts) and yet they basically shot it as written and he was new enough to not even realize that usually there is push back to keep costs down.
This was a fantastic story best dalek story since genesis great we are back in 1963 but these last few seasons are the best well apart from one story this season btw George sewell was in whodunnit not sure where you are in the seasons but in for a surprise when someone big appears as a guest in that series from dr who
Now that you’re finishing Classic Who on Patreon, will you be listening to some of the audio dramas from the 70’s, 80’s, & 90’s?
These predate Big Finish, feature original cast members & are now available on iTunes, RUclips, Audible, etc.
Ones you might find particularly of interest, without spoilers:
1976 (46 min) originally on vinyl
1985 (six 10 min eps) BBC Radio
1993 (five 30 min eps) BBC Radio
1996 (six 30 min eps) BBC Radio
I suspect she'd really enjoy the 1993 one - for me it goes a bit off-track quite fast but I absolutely love the first episode and I can remember listening to it at the time... it really was like Doctor Who had come back, and marked a few short years when Jon Pertwee seemed to unofficially be the official Doctor once again, with various appearances...
The Dalek voices in this Dalek story, are Brian Miller, Roy Skelton and Royce Mills, Brian Miller was in the mara story Snakedance as Dugdale and he was for many years married to Liz Sladen who was Sarah Jane Smith from season 11 to 14 before she left and returned for K-9 and Company and also the 5 Doctors and the Sarah Jane Adventures . I think the little girl is called Felicity or even Bryony as a possible name for her.
I've been waiting for this one. It's my all time favourite doctor who story of all time. I can't wait to see your reaction to this story. This story is excellent.
Your reaction reminded me of an old Ed Grimley moment on SCTV: sb offers him a Zagnut, and he says, "I'm gonna go mental! This is, like, my all-time favorite favorite candy bar of all times!"
The first Doctor Who episode to be made in stereo sound (NICAM).
A truly wonderful story. I know that you're well past this on your Patreon, so your questions about when this is set have been answered by now. The references and homages are 100% deliberate. George Sewell was on Whodunnit, so your memory isn't playing you false.
As an 80's child, that cliffhanger was the very first bit of Doctor Who I ever saw on TV growing up, and whenever I hear the word "Dalek", I think of that Dalek voice by Roy Skelton in the cliffhanger. Seeing as we're one season behind you on RUclips, I wager you've already gotten the answers to all the questions by now. Either way, Remembrance of the Daleks is arguably the best bridge between the Classic + New Series. It's an explosive Dalek adventure with great writing, characters, twists, and action - and Ace's first main adventure as our new ass-kicking rebel (who has plenty of iconic moments throughout). One of the best Classic stories / McCoy stories / Dalek stories. Take your pick!
Yep! I have 2 nicknames for this story: 1. The birth of the "dodgy Doctor," in which the narrative about the Doctor, especially regarding his reasons for breaking away from the Time Lords, shifts toward something darker than him disagreeing with their policies.
2. "Depth to the Daleks," in which the Daleks become more than a bunch of salt shakers shouting, "Exterminate!" They begin to evolve and think more, and we begin to see more complexity in their society.
@@seanryan3020 The civil war has always been an interesting angle. We've already had plenty of stories about Daleks wanting to wipe out everyone or everything else, so it's nice to see them trying to comprehend their own imperfections.
This was also the 25th Anniversary, hence all the call-backs.
This was the 25 anniversary of who. Set in 1963 when the series first aired. The opening is a speech by John F Kennedy who was assassinated on the day the first episode was shown.
It’s one of the best classic era stories and where McCoy really nailed the role
I hope Marie-Clare you enjoy the rest of the classic Dr Who stories that are left to watch and also the rest of the episodes of Blake,s Seven and Sapphire and Steel.
If you pay attention you will find the answer to your question about 1963 in the next Episode.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG AAAAAAAAAA
There's a couple of things about this story that stand out apart from how brilliant it is. First it's the first Doctor Who story to be broadcast in stereo. I hooked it up to my hi fi at the time and the sound of the explosions was amazing. I think you could hear it all the way down the street! Also you see the van that Mike was in when the Dalek shot at him? My Dad told me he used to drive a van like that when he was younger. He would've been 23 back in 1963.
This is one of the best.Check out the scene where the Dr is uncertain and dithering ànd gets the best bit of advice from the cafe owner about getting on with life.The effects look a bit dated now but in 1988 they were the best we had.This story takes place just after the very first episode in 1963.
The series started getting really good again starting with this episode. The scripts got better, and Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred had a chemistry that had been missing for years. Honestly, probably since Tom Baker and Lalla Ward. Unfortunately, the BBC had it out for Dr. Who by now and we're not far from the end.
At the time seeing a dalek go up a flight of stairs was a big thing, it had never been seen before.
I loved this story when I was younger.
Ahhh, this is the first Doctor Who episode I can remember watching as a kid.
An often missed call back to a different series is “I wish Bernard was here.” “British Rocket Group has its own problems. Referencing Bernard Quatermass of the series Quatermass. As we move into the celebration of the silver anniversary of Doctor Who the throwback are coming thick and fast, no coincidence as to character names either. You will find out exactly when this story is set.
The story is the first to clearly put an end to ridiculing Daleks vs stairs however it is not the first time we have seen a Dalek levitate. In Revelation we had a levitating Dalek in the room killing Grigory and Natasha and more obviously the real Davros was shown levitating over Orcini.
Regular Michael Sheard returns for a final appearance as the Headmaster. Pamela Salem having played deputy commander Toos in 4’s The Robots of Death.
References so far include the Doctor referring to Group Captain Gilmore as Brigadier
Coal Hill School
Ace picking up Susan’s book
Totters Lane
I.M Foreman’s yard (Misspelled)
Omega
Incidentally the visual effects shot of stunt performer Tip Tipping being shot by a Dalek was the first of its kind and was so expensive by comparison to the series budget that the effect could not be repeated.
Finally just to note I have been waiting for your reaction to this story more than any other, including the multi Doctor stories you have reacted to. This story is certainly one of the very best and I look forward to enlightening you as the next episodes are reviewed hold on tight this story just gets better and better. I suggest that once you have everyone’s input that you rewatch the story in one sitting and you’ll realise how well Ben Aaronovitch has written it, quite brilliant and plenty still to come.
One of the best Dalek stories. Ace is iconic. She must be a Ramones fan. Beat on the brat (or Dalek) with a baseball bat. On a serious note it shows the insanity of racism and fascism.
Love this story with CGI effects and Ace full story with Doctor as the companion
this story takes place after An Unearthly Child, there is a small reference to it you missed in this episode, The Doctor and Ace are in the science classroom, Ace quickly looks at a book about The French Revolution because it had been left their by Susan
The change in tone from Season 24 to Season 25 is more stark than almost any season change in the history of Doctor Who (probably Season 6 to Season 7 has a big change with the whole cast, the sci-fi all becoming Earth bound and the change from black and white to colour, but other than that I think this is the biggest other change). It's like a completely different programme to Season 24. And so much better for it. McCoy even plays it like a completely different person (and again, better for it).
I do love this story, it's the perfect 7 + A combo
After the massive disappointment of the previous season watching this was an utter joy. My show was back. I loved it in 1988 and I love it just as much now
Brilliant story! 😊
Everything comes clear in next few episodes.yes its 1963 in the episodes.
2nd favourite story of all time!!!!!!! Behind only the war Games! Best Dalek story!
Just hold on, everything will be revealed!
I still have this serial on vhs, taped directly off the telly (because my mum was watching Corrie so we couldn't actually watch it). Obviously I've not had a vcr for years, but that tape got a lot of use in the 90s
Second best story Classic Who ever made. Finally you're here :D
One of my all time fave stories
One of my favourites! ☺️👍
This is the true 5th anniversary
George sewall was also Jasper carrot and Robert Powell's boss in their comedy The Detectives, very funny. 1993, and also was in the si FI series UFO 1970 ,
Although I don't love this as much as everyone else, I was still getting emotional hearing your reaction. ❤
This was the first time Daleks levitated and beat stairs
I was fifteen (and a half) when this went out and I went to bed that night with a great sense of excitement that the show was back on track. Over six million had tuned in for the start of Dr Who's promotional 25th season (a model, in some respects, for later celebrations) and it seems not one of them remember the Dalek climbing the stairs at the end - To the point that Bob Shearman and Russell T Davies had to make a big point out of it all over again over 15 years later. But Season 24 had been a disappointment to me - bordering on embarrassment at school - and now it seemed everything was going to be fine...
My doctor! Love ace too. Fave pairing.
Been waiting for this one for a long time!
My favourite Doctor Who story
Great story this great season as well
It's set the day after the First Doctor left left with Susan, Ian and Barbara.
Gilmore and co are RAF hence him being a Group Captain. The expanded media has linked them to UNIT.
RD7 was probably an in joke: Remembrance (of the) Daleks Seven(th Doctor).
Ratcliffes name was originally Gummer with Stratford Johns considered for the part, George Sewell is so excellent however
❤❤❤❤ this is great story love ace ❤❤
Welcome to season 25! (Aka: where the Mcoy era gets good.) also welcome to my favourite Doctor Who story of all time.