MC at 0:00: Idk Part 1 was so strong I'm worried it won't hold up MC at 11:35: *speechless* I love seeing you discover this story for the first time. I wish I could see it for the first time all over again. It's *chef's kiss*. I wish we could talk to you irl as you watch it. There's so much to say
This episode is where, In my opinion, The 7th Doctor's personality comes to shine making him one of my favorite incarnations. This is the silver anniversary year.
I happened to meet Joseph Marcell (John (the cafe worker)@4:01) years ago. Who now is probably best known as Jeffrey the Butler on the "Fresh Prince of Bel Air", so to his surprise, I didn't ask him about that, I asked him about working on this episode of Doctor Who! Hehe.
Your reaction to this one is such a treat. This was the first ever Doctor Who story I ever saw as a child in the early 1990s, and that feeling of tearful nostalgia you mentioned about part 1 is very strong for me too. This story connects us to our own fond memories as well as the very beginnings of this show, almost fragmenting us with every watch. Fantastic atmosphere, acting, and treatment of the Daleks.
1:49 Michael Sheard, a great Scottish actor, as the headmaster there, having previously appeared in other Doctor Who stories (The Ark, The Mind of Evil, Pyramids of Mars, The Invisible Enemy and Castrovalva). Indeed, he nearly appeared in The Two Doctors, meaning he'd have acted with Doctors 1 - 7. No, I won't be reconsidering that comment in light of The Timeless Children - don't get me started! Anyway, back to dear old Michael; some may recognise him as Admiral Ozzel in The Empire Strikes Back, others from his role in Hitler: The Last Ten Days, as Adolf Hitler in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, as Heinrich Himmler in The Death of Adolf Hitler, as Adolf Hitler in Rogue Male, as Adolf Hitler in The Tomorrow People, as Adolf Hitler in The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission, in an episode of 'Allo, 'Allo! entitled "Hitler's Last Heil" or as Adolf Hitler in Hitler of the Andes. Most of a certain age, however, will recall him as Mr Bronson in Grange Hill. I particularly remember the episode where he turned up to the school disco dressed as Adolf Hitler
6:40 The vicar is played by Peter Halliday, best remembered for his portrayal of Packer in _The Invasion._ He was also one of the three Inter Minorian officials in _Carnival of Monsters._
Oh my god. I know I knew that... (cos I was always trawling through the Guide books looking at the actors to see which ones appeared multiple times...) But - so hard to imagine the vicar as Packer! :)
I think he *might* also have voiced the aliens aboard the spaceship in "The Ambassadors of Death". Or maybe it was just a similar voice treatment to the Cyber Planner? Darn it, where *is* my copy of "The Programme Guide"... =:o?
She also got a hell of a jolt through her arm muscles when the bat connected harder than she'd intended with something so solid! And then there's the experience of jumping through the glass window, which also left her somewhat in shock (stuntman Tip Tipping had tried to warn her what it was like, but she says nothing could have prepared her for the way her adrenaline spiked, and Tip was a real gent in making sure she was OK while coming down from getting the shakes.)
Remembrance is my all time favourite. It's actually celebrating 25 years of Dr Who at the time, I think, so yes a celebration. Believe me when I say, the other parts will not disappoint. Glad you're enjoying it :)
Michael Sheard (The Headmaster) was in multiple Doctor Who stories over the course of the classic series first playing "Rhos" in The Ark with William Hartnell to appearances with Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker and Peter Davison before finishing his classic Who run with this performance. He had one more Doctor Who appearance after this in a Paul Mcgann Big Finish story, before sadly passing on in 2005. (He's also famous for playing Admiral Ozzell in The Empire Strikes Back and Hitler in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.) Meanwhile, The blind priest in this episode is played by Peter Halliday, who is probably best known to you as "Packer" in the wonderful Patrick Troughton story "The Invasion" from 1968!
The 'Gavin & Stacey' chap is William Thomas who was the first actor to be in both classic AND new Who. He was the health and safety chap in 'Boomtown" killed by Margaret Slitheen in the pre credits! He also turns up in Torchwood. There are also a lot of actors who have been in classic DW before in this one!
I did find Ace going to the school full of Daleks very impulsive, and silly and she went in harms way and could have been killed. I also liked the line, the Dr said to Ace it is not your past you have not yet been born and also I liked the man who said on the telephone I thought the Dr was an old man with white hair thus meaning the first Dr was also awesome.
Your reaction was priceless - this story is an absolute classic and one I watch over & over again - episode 2 cliffhanger is still one of my favourites. I hope you enjoy the rest of the story as much!
When Ace shoots the dalek, there is a visible scorch mark left on the wall behind her. I remember the DVD commentary made some comment about the explosion being larger than expected. Sophie Aldred was visibly surprised, and Sylvester McCoy mentioned being almost deafened by it.
6:38 - Interesting trivia bit, the actor playing the Vicar here is Peter Haliday, who had previously appearing in a number of Doctor Who stories including The Invasion, Doctor Who and the Silurians, The Ambassadors of Death, Carnival of Monsters, and City of Death
I've been waiting for your reaction to this episode since... well, for as long as I've been subscribed to your channel, which is quite a while, and I must say, this is even more of a joy to watch than I anticipated! That scene in the cafe is one of my favorite scenes in all of Doctor Who. It's subtle and subdued, but it's so powerful, and - just like they talked about in the scene - the consequences ripple out and shape so much of what is to come.
Fun piece of trivia. The same music used for the little girl in this story was used for Sister of Mine in Human Nature/Family of Blood in the revived series.
It's the nursery song "Bye Baby Bunting" (also known as "Cry Baby Bunting"). Bye, baby Bunting, Daddy's gone a-hunting, He's gone to get a rabbit skin To wrap his baby Bunting in.
The ultimate meta-moment of the BBC voice man announcing something that may or may not be the series has caused a few ructions over the years, but may be less remarkable in the light of modern multiverse adventures. It is a story that is constantly seeking to pull the rug from under your expectations. And, after all, it's the 25th Anniversary.
The book on the desk "the French Revolution" is probably supposed to be the book Susan had in An Unearthly Child. I love all these touches. And the device the Doctor built with a Spirodon reference :)
It’s so good isn’t it??? I love it so much. All the fun references, all the characters and twists, all the coffin shenanigans and Dalek action, Ace being **awesome**… “I can’t say what’s going on and I think that’s why I love it” - this has me in hope you’ll like one of my favorite stories later on 😄
I think as a kid this story on broadcast propelled my love for the show into the stratosphere. Its never died down. Think you will struggle to find any dislikes for this story from any fan.
This is my 2nd favourite story in the entire show but this episode is my favourite single episode of all time. The dalek ace baseball bat scene, the music, doctor who being on TV. Part of an amazing 20/10 story
This was like an unofficial 25th anniversary special, the school is where Susan went and the Toters Lane is the junkyard the first Doctor stayed. So this episode probably takes place right after the first Doctor left with Susan and Barbara and Ian
This was the 25th anniversary story. Unofficially. So you're right. In Australia this story was rushed to air just after its UK premiere - cos someone at the ABC had heard how good it was. Part 1 was the last classic story I saw for the first time 'live' as broadcast, on a Friday evening. On Saturday someone turned up with a tape of the whole story. I asked if the rest of the story was anywhere near as good as part 1 and was told it defo was. Which I didn't believe. Until I saw it for myself. We actually applauded after it finished. DW had become unrecognisably brilliant overnight and none of us could quite believe it. A young mate who dislikes DW caught this on Twitch a few years ago and was messaging me throughout saying how good it was. He was amazed. Imagine how amazed we were in 1988. Luckily it wasn't the last of the brilliant stories...
This could be my favourite 7th doctor story but in the top three the other two are in the future ps the ace through the window yes and it was the 25th anniversary of the series
This is the 25th anniversary episode. Now You understand the reference in "The Power of the Doctor" which Ace beats up a Dalek with a baseball bat which is one of her most iconic scenes in Who history. The outside Doctor Who reference on the television cut half way through the announcement up to Doc... before it was fully said Doctor Who this also happened in the Peter Capaldi episode in NuWho "In The Forest of the Night" where the kids, Danny and Clara were walking down the lane and there was a red bus in the background which had a picture of the Doctor Who Series 8 promo poster with The Twelfth Doctor doing his pose and with Clara but hidden with bushes of trees. Although Sylvester McCoy is not my favourite i do consider this one of his best ones. I think i said in the last comment this takes place after "An Unearthly Child" the hand of omega was never mentioned in it this was retconned that The Doctor left the hand of omega behind because The First Doctor had to rush off when Ian and Barbara discovered his secret. The "No Coloureds" sign was sadly the mindset in 1963 racism was still highly a thing.
It's the original Eastenders cafe set manned by Joseph Marcel known for playing Geoffrey in the Will Smith sitcom the fresh prince of bel air. Another exciting episode. So glad you are enjoying this. I met Sophie Aldred for the first time at the weekend and she really is Ace in real life too. This was the 25th anniversary story so loys of references to previous stories etc.
Not the *official* 25th anniversary story (though it deserves to be!). That was "Silver Nemesis". IIRC, JN-T wanted the "silver" (i.e. 25th) anniversary story to have "silver" in the title, and thus to have a certain specific enemy in it. Bizarre how things turned out... With Ben Aaronovitch turning in this awesome nostalgia-fest, which was also the most action-packed story the show had ever seen, while the other guys gave us... well... you'll see, Marie-Clare. =:o} It's good fun, but it ain't no "Remembrance".
Im not sure what is strangest, Dr Who being on tv in an episode of Dr Who or Professor Quatermass being mentioned as part of the same universe.😮 Really appreciate Sylvester McCoy's stories a lot more than I did at the time, when it all seemed so cheap and tacky.
Ok not giving you spoilers here but will say: The coffin is NOT Omega The coffin was left behind by Hartnell's Doctor This in my opinion should have been the 25th Anniversary story as you have seen from the references so far. Ace is the best companion in the classic era of the Show, for the baseball bat alone. That is all i will say without spoilers.
The show was starting it's 25th season with this story, so yeah, it is kind of celebratory. I feel like any doubts you might have had about Ace as a companion disappeared when she beat up that Dalek with a baseball bat and went crashing through that window.😊
The First Doctor played by William Hartnell is the original fugitive Doctor on the run from his own people with the Hand Of Omega with his granddaughter Susan in a stolen Tardis, a mission that he was fleeing an undefined enemy at the time which was The Daleks before his first encounter with them on Skaro, the 7th Doctor knew in advance also the out come so he is back there to finish the work he started...
Hmm, there's a fair bit of supposition in there, some of which I don't agree with. There's nothing *on screen* in the show (in all the 26 original seasons, at least - I may have missed something later?) that says they were "fleeing an unknown enemy". (That was in the outline for the series by the first production team, but was never developed in the show, and a different, less dramatic origin story was created for him as Patrick Troughton was preparing to leave: "I was *bored*!" =:o} ) My interpretation is that the Doctor didn't know the Hand of Omega was aboard the TARDIS when he stole it, and once he realised what a hot potato he'd got on his hands, he thought he'd better find a way to hide it somewhere and then run as far away from it as possible, in case the Time Lords tracked it down (and thus found him and Susan, who probably had no idea about all this, as well). This would explain why his reaction to being discovered by Ian & Barbara is to kidnap them (he can't risk leaving behind witnesses who could say exactly where and when he was, and thus might reveal the location of the Hand) and get the hell away from Earth in 1963 as quickly as possible! And of course, we *now* know it was all Clara's fault he left home in that *particular* TARDIS anyway... which makes Clara responsible both for depriving the Time Lords of one of their most powerful tools/weapons for a good length of time (probably a good thing!), and for the Doctor suddenly having the idea, several bodies later, to try to deal with the "Dalek problem" once and for all by using this nifty tool/weapon he happened to have stashed away... (Which in turn makes the Master/Missy responsible, because he/she set Clara up with the Doctor in the first place.) Big, *big* step forward in the brewing of the Time War, here! And as the Doctor reflects in the cafe scene, his decision to go on the offensive against the Daleks has all sorts of unpredicted consequences. He's very close to becoming the War Doctor in this incarnation, but realising how badly the events of "Remembrance" could have gone wrong - not to mention the innocent lives lost as the story plays out - he steps back from that fate for a whole incarnation to come. But as I say, this is all just my interpretation of things. YMMV. =:o}
This is one of my all-time favorite stories. It's a blast from start to finish! We get a couple of great Doctor Who character actors from the 60's and 70s, making guest appearances here, and not one but two different Dalek factions! All the references to the first doctor and Unearthly Child are great as well. (There's also a voice-over appearance by another classic series actor you'll recognize, but I'll mention that again later.)
I will say this story, Slyvester is certainly settled, into the role of the 7th Dr and much as I missed Mel and was also sorry the welsh lass Ray from Delta and the Bannermen was not kept on as a new companion was a shame in billions of ways but still we got what we got and I liked the way Ace fought the headmaster who was under the control of the Daleks and had an electronic implant fitted behind his ear. I thought Mike was someone Ace, might date and also the little girl was very creepy too.
I thought the way the headmaster died was quite moving, but learning Mike Smith is associated with the man George Ratcliffe clearly makes the viewers very suspicious of him and he struck me as a bit sly when he went out early in the morning. I also think, the Group captain is rather unable to think outside the box but at least the Doctor can help the military and the civilians defeat his arch-enemies the dreaded Daleks and also I do miss Mel and wish Marie-Clare she could have stayed with the Dr instead of going off with Glitz. I still think Ray the Welsh lass from two earlier stories had more than enough to be retained as a companion to the Doctor but sadly she was not.
I’m going to predict it now: The 7th Doctor will rival the 3rd for you in terms of ❤️. And this is only the tip of the iceberg - so much more amazing stuff to come with him and Ace. I am a HUGE Pertwee fan but McCoy - 🎊🎈.
To me this is as good as any New Who and if it wasn’t already too late could have been the renaissance of the show. It should have been the anniversary show.
Loved your reaction to the meta "start of a new science fiction series..." I sometimes wonder if this is an alternative universe as 5.15pm in November would be dark outside.
The thing is, this is set a few months after Susan's enjoyment of the darkness and fog of (presumably) November on her way home from school. So probably February, at the earliest, and maybe even as late as May. Ben Aaronovitch originally intended the "new science fiction series" to be "Professor X" (a reference to Ace always calling the Doctor "Professor", but the script was later changed to call it "Doc... (something)". So maybe in the reality we're watching here, "Doc... (something)" just happens to be the name of a show that was rushed into production over the winter, to replace the failed "Professor X" that had started in late 1962? =:o} (N.B. No onscreen date was ever given the events of "An Unearthly Child", so they could in fact have happened at the end of 1962, or right at the start of 1963! It's just a fannish convention/assumption that they happened on the same day the episode really aired.)
These days people are lining up to create controversial or canon-busting plots for the series, but I think this serial is really the first to actively recontextualize events right at the start of the whole thing. And that's notwithstanding something like 'The Deadly Assassin' turning Gallifrey - previously mysterious and powerful - into something between a boarding school and parliament. It's a story that proves influential not only on the decade to come but on the 21st century series - even if I wasn't necessarily sold on some of the ideas at the time.
All of your questions require spoilers. They will be answered in later episodes. Apart from one, Which I'll answer. Yes, it is a special anniversary occasion. Can't remember off the top of my head how many years.
I won't spoil the remaining episodes, but apart from the Dalek earlier in this episode changing voices and some awful in-joke gags like "the time is a quarter past five", this is an excellent episode. Wven the incidental music works in its favor. Ace saying "I'm going out for a breath of FRESH air" in disgust is told a lot better in the novelization... Season 25 is clearly running strong.
The novelisation is amazing on every level. It was commissioned just at the time when the books had been given a bigger page allocation than ever before, and Ben Aaronovitch turned in a really rich, fully-fledge novel, fleshing out the backstory/ies of Prof. Rachel Jensen and Group Captain Gilmore in particular. It's one of the few I've re-read multiple times. the way he turned those highly visually-conceived Dalek-vs-Dalek battle-scenes into readable prose, telling us what's actually happening to the creatures inside the Daleks as they fight, is brilliant. It was very clear that Ben was an author to keep an eye on... And after a sadly protracted delay in getting noticed very much outside of the "Doctor Who" context, look at him go now! =:o}
This story opened the 25th anniversary season, so it is part of a celebration of the show's history, as you noticed. However, it isn't the official 25th Anniversary story, that story is yet to come. This part answers your question about how long after "An Unearthly Child" this is set. The Vicar mentions the grave for the Hand of Omega has been ready for a month. So this is roughly a month after "An Unearthly Child".
Great reaction. One of my favourite scenes in all Who is when Ace takes on a Dalek with the enhanced baseball bat. The racist sign hanging on the window in Ace’s B&B room was a sadly quite common thing in 1963. You will love the next two episodes….
Sylvester McCoy talked very interestingly in recent years about how the Beeb were going to chop that scene with the sign in the window of the B&B - but he objected strongly that it needed to be left in and it ultimately was left in. Classic Who had plenty to say about social problems, just like the new series.
@@176MarkW I like that Ace doesn't vocalise her obvious disgust at the sign instead using the phrase "breath of fresh air". A great example of Doctor Who adding social commentary in a more subtle and nuanced way.
I am very much enjoying your enjoyment of this - in my view, it is the seventh Doctor’s best story. Ace’s baseball bat attack on the Dalek and her crashing through the window are probably her most iconic moments, though of course Leela had already gone through a window back in The Talons of Weng-Chiang, so that scene wasn’t unprecedented. I know Sophie Aldred was also very proud of the scene where Ace discovers the racist sign, a little reminder that life was far from perfect in 1963 and also pertinent to the wider story, pointing out to the viewer that humanity can be just as intolerant of difference as Daleks. The doomed headmaster is played by Michael Sheard, making his sixth appearance in Classic Who, in a role not a million miles from the fearsome teacher Mr Bronson that he was playing at the same time in Grange Hill. It’s nice to see him again, though it is also a shame he doesn’t get more to do. The announcement of the first episode of a new SF show is a very meta moment - we are of course invited to think it is Who, but we cleverly cut to the next scene before it is actually confirmed, as otherwise a real hornet’s nest would doubtless have been stirred up among fans…
The “No coloureds” racism sign also ties into the Daleks own racism blobs and bionic blobs with bits added, not pure in their blobbiness and hating each other’s chromosomes and the resulting war to the death. We also have ‘The Association’ with their racism as well. Plus John mentions his cane cutter father and slavery. For the time it was set this was very forward thinking. Also back in 1988 we are educated in racism and slavery as part of our history in a children’s programme, a brave move by Ben Aaronovich.
@@eddherring4972 [NODS] And it all ties back to the original reason given in "The Daleks" for the way the Daleks hated the Thals: "A dislike for the unlike. they're frightened of you because you're different from them. So whatever you do, it doesn't make any difference." (I'm happy to say that in the real world, how a hated group behaves towards their haters *CAN* sometimes make a difference, and indeed a positive one... But it's really not easy to tell in advance whether that difference will make things better or worse; and I'm *far* from being in a position to advise any group or individual in particular how they should treat their haters! "It worked for me, that one time!" is not a guarantee of repeated success... =:o\ )
Yeah, I doubt you had much disappointment from the rest of this story. The Gavin and Stacey guy was also in the first scene of the NuWho episode Boom Town from series one. It was the Doctor that told Mike to say that Ace has to stay at home. Doctor Who on the TV was just a 25th anniversary gag
Well you still have a newspaper headline making episode to come, this story builds and builds. Starts strong and finishes like it’s made from titanium. The Announcer on the tv is an Easter Egg for the fans and strictly speaking it’s a kind of 4th wall break. The moment in the cafe is a great cool down moment and contrasts well with all the rushing around and action. The words spoken by both the Doctor and John (Joseph Marcell, Jeffrey from Fresh Prince) are very poignant. What you basically have is 2 factions of Daleks and the Doctor trying not to get everyone caught up in their conflict. The 1st Doctor was on Earth during episode 1 of An Unearthly Child attempting to hide the Hand Of Omega from everyone and anyone. The 1st Doctor first encounters the Daleks in The Daleks episodes so could not have been hiding it from the Daleks specifically. The 7th Doctor returns to Earth to complete what the 1st Doctor did not, by taking The Hand Of Omega from the funeral director and burying it in the grave marked with the Greek Omega sign. Hence the reason the worker believes it’s “An old geezer with white hair.” We can assume that the 1st Doctor left on the same day because in part 1 Susan’s book is picked up by Ace and would not be there the following day. Andrew Cartmel Script Editor had plans over the seasons to add a little mystery to the title character by making the Doctor more than just a timelord as the series had become a bit goodies vs baddies with no real development and it is implied that the Doctor was involved in the construction of The Hand Of Omega: “Didn’t we have trouble with the prototype.” “We?” “They.” More nods to the past still to come and the rest of the story doesn’t disappoint. Back in 1988 this was absolutely compulsive viewing. Certainly this story is 1 in my top 10, eclipsing Caves Of Androzani and Talons Of Weng-Chiang. When you have watched it I suggest you binge rewatch it hopefully you will have the information you need to link everything and where needed the reminders of previous episodes you might need.
Your last paragraph raises an important point: With the wide adoption of VHS VCRs in the UK by then, this was really the first story that was made with the understanding that a large portion of the audience would re-watch it at least once, and some us many times; and so it's written in a way that specifically *rewards* repeated viewings, while also being as powerful an experience as possible on first viewing. TV - and Doctor Who in particular, as a "cult" show whose most dedicated fans had already been recording the soundtracks of stories for two decades - was entering a new era; Andrew Cartmel, and the stable of young writers he built for the show (and Ben Aaronovitch in particular) really understood that.
Another Doctor put the Hand on Earth because he knew the Daleks would want it in the Future. It was 1963 so Doctor Who had started. Mike is more than just a Traitor but that bit was Edited out. The Doctor and the Man in the Coffee Shop lasted longer and ended better but they cut that out as well.
Oops! Marie-Clare, I must apologise, I appear to have accidentally taken over your entire comments section on this one! =:o1 I think it might just be that I'm a wee bit of a fan of this story, and of Ben Aaraonvitch as a writer. [BLUSH]
Now I loved this but didn't like the book. I appreciate that Aaronovitch wanted to do something different but I didn't like some of the new characterisation. I know people really enjoy it though
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This is why Remembrance often ties with Genesis as not just the best dalek story, but as the best classic series story
Ace beating up a dalek with a baseball bat - OOO YOU CALLING SMALL ?? !!!
This episodes shows us why Ace is one of the best companions.
It's hard to believe it was only her second ever story
Not one..Just IS ;)
@@Joey15811 Top three with Sarah Jane and Leela.
@@Joey15811 No she isn't by any means but she's better than Mel...which isn't difficult!!
@@CardiffOneOne yes she is. Donna on an equal level and Leela not far behind then
MC at 0:00: Idk Part 1 was so strong I'm worried it won't hold up
MC at 11:35: *speechless*
I love seeing you discover this story for the first time. I wish I could see it for the first time all over again. It's *chef's kiss*. I wish we could talk to you irl as you watch it. There's so much to say
This episode is where, In my opinion, The 7th Doctor's personality comes to shine making him one of my favorite incarnations. This is the silver anniversary year.
This was where we went "Wow! After all the trouble it's been through, this show has at least another 10 years in it..." 🙄
There you are thinking he’s a new Harry Sullivan, and he turns out to be Mike Yates….
I happened to meet Joseph Marcell (John (the cafe worker)@4:01) years ago. Who now is probably best known as Jeffrey the Butler on the "Fresh Prince of Bel Air", so to his surprise, I didn't ask him about that, I asked him about working on this episode of Doctor Who! Hehe.
Your reaction to this one is such a treat. This was the first ever Doctor Who story I ever saw as a child in the early 1990s, and that feeling of tearful nostalgia you mentioned about part 1 is very strong for me too. This story connects us to our own fond memories as well as the very beginnings of this show, almost fragmenting us with every watch. Fantastic atmosphere, acting, and treatment of the Daleks.
1:49 Michael Sheard, a great Scottish actor, as the headmaster there, having previously appeared in other Doctor Who stories (The Ark, The Mind of Evil, Pyramids of Mars, The Invisible Enemy and Castrovalva). Indeed, he nearly appeared in The Two Doctors, meaning he'd have acted with Doctors 1 - 7. No, I won't be reconsidering that comment in light of The Timeless Children - don't get me started!
Anyway, back to dear old Michael; some may recognise him as Admiral Ozzel in The Empire Strikes Back, others from his role in Hitler: The Last Ten Days, as Adolf Hitler in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, as Heinrich Himmler in The Death of Adolf Hitler, as Adolf Hitler in Rogue Male, as Adolf Hitler in The Tomorrow People, as Adolf Hitler in The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission, in an episode of 'Allo, 'Allo! entitled "Hitler's Last Heil" or as Adolf Hitler in Hitler of the Andes. Most of a certain age, however, will recall him as Mr Bronson in Grange Hill. I particularly remember the episode where he turned up to the school disco dressed as Adolf Hitler
6:40 The vicar is played by Peter Halliday, best remembered for his portrayal of Packer in _The Invasion._ He was also one of the three Inter Minorian officials in _Carnival of Monsters._
Oh my god. I know I knew that... (cos I was always trawling through the Guide books looking at the actors to see which ones appeared multiple times...) But - so hard to imagine the vicar as Packer! :)
He also played the guard with “cold hands” in The City of Death when the Fourth Doctor travelled back in time to talk with Leonardo Da Vinci.
He also supplied the voice of Cyber Planner in "The Invasion" (1969), and of the original Silurians in "The Silurians" (1970)
I think he *might* also have voiced the aliens aboard the spaceship in "The Ambassadors of Death". Or maybe it was just a similar voice treatment to the Cyber Planner? Darn it, where *is* my copy of "The Programme Guide"... =:o?
Fun fact, The Dalek Ace broke wasn't actually meant to when Sophie Aldred smacked it with the bat. But they kept it in the episode anyway
She also got a hell of a jolt through her arm muscles when the bat connected harder than she'd intended with something so solid! And then there's the experience of jumping through the glass window, which also left her somewhat in shock (stuntman Tip Tipping had tried to warn her what it was like, but she says nothing could have prepared her for the way her adrenaline spiked, and Tip was a real gent in making sure she was OK while coming down from getting the shakes.)
Remembrance is my all time favourite. It's actually celebrating 25 years of Dr Who at the time, I think, so yes a celebration. Believe me when I say, the other parts will not disappoint. Glad you're enjoying it :)
The little girl in Remembrance of the Daleks is the best side character in Doctor Who.
I love your reactions here. This was all of us back when this first aired. I'll leave everyone else to explain the rest.
Remembrance continues to impress. So many great moments in a highly satisfying storyline, surely one of the greatest Doctor Who stories ever.
Michael Sheard (The Headmaster) was in multiple Doctor Who stories over the course of the classic series first playing "Rhos" in The Ark with William Hartnell to appearances with Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker and Peter Davison before finishing his classic Who run with this performance. He had one more Doctor Who appearance after this in a Paul Mcgann Big Finish story, before sadly passing on in 2005. (He's also famous for playing Admiral Ozzell in The Empire Strikes Back and Hitler in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.) Meanwhile,
The blind priest in this episode is played by Peter Halliday, who is probably best known to you as "Packer" in the wonderful Patrick Troughton story "The Invasion" from 1968!
The 'Gavin & Stacey' chap is William Thomas who was the first actor to be in both classic AND new Who. He was the health and safety chap in 'Boomtown" killed by Margaret Slitheen in the pre credits! He also turns up in Torchwood. There are also a lot of actors who have been in classic DW before in this one!
Just saw him in Steeltown Murders.
I did find Ace going to the school full of Daleks very impulsive, and silly and she went in harms way and could have been killed. I also liked the line, the Dr said to Ace it is not your past you have not yet been born and also I liked the man who said on the telephone I thought the Dr was an old man with white hair thus meaning the first Dr was also awesome.
Strongest story of the 7th Doctor in my opinion. And my fave.
Your reaction was priceless - this story is an absolute classic and one I watch over & over again - episode 2 cliffhanger is still one of my favourites. I hope you enjoy the rest of the story as much!
Nice to see Geoffrey from the fresh Prince of bel air, and I’m sure the chap at the undertakers was in boomtown
Spot on! The 7th doctor's main motivation is cleaning up after his previous selves
When Ace shoots the dalek, there is a visible scorch mark left on the wall behind her. I remember the DVD commentary made some comment about the explosion being larger than expected. Sophie Aldred was visibly surprised, and Sylvester McCoy mentioned being almost deafened by it.
And people thought the series was on its last legs in this incarnation. Remembrance is an excellent story.
❤❤❤love this show
This is the first story I remember seeing as a kid at the age of 8. I've been hooked ever since! Great reaction as always.
Definately one of the more popular stories and certainly one of the best McCoy stories. Loved your reaction, your face was a picture.
I love the gold and white Imperial Daleks, this story is just the best, so glad you're enjoying watching it.
Ace destroying those Daleks with that rocket launcher & bat so badass!
Marie-Clare, your reaction to this episode is to die for.
That’s so lovely, thank you 🥰
One of the best stories in all of who
One of the best Doctor Who stories of all time!❤
A great dr who story 😀 it gets better & better , love your reactions.
6:38 - Interesting trivia bit, the actor playing the Vicar here is Peter Haliday, who had previously appearing in a number of Doctor Who stories including The Invasion, Doctor Who and the Silurians, The Ambassadors of Death, Carnival of Monsters, and City of Death
That was Part freaking 2 :-) it gets sooooo goood!
This story had some great cliff-hangers.
I've been waiting for your reaction to this episode since... well, for as long as I've been subscribed to your channel, which is quite a while, and I must say, this is even more of a joy to watch than I anticipated!
That scene in the cafe is one of my favorite scenes in all of Doctor Who. It's subtle and subdued, but it's so powerful, and - just like they talked about in the scene - the consequences ripple out and shape so much of what is to come.
:) I quote the cafe scene sometimes to my kids just to annoy them.
@@johnlarro6872 Heh! =:oD
"Doctor Who": Helping parents to annoy their kids since 1963! =:o}
Fun piece of trivia. The same music used for the little girl in this story was used for Sister of Mine in Human Nature/Family of Blood in the revived series.
It's the nursery song "Bye Baby Bunting" (also known as "Cry Baby Bunting").
Bye, baby Bunting,
Daddy's gone a-hunting,
He's gone to get a rabbit skin
To wrap his baby Bunting in.
I swear you can see Marie Claire unravelling at several points 😂😂😂 . Not having context is, to paraphrase Tweety Bird “Pwaying with her wittle head” 🐤
The french revolution book was actually Susans book from the first story. It is an anniversary episode in a sense. It kicks off its 25th season.
The ultimate meta-moment of the BBC voice man announcing something that may or may not be the series has caused a few ructions over the years, but may be less remarkable in the light of modern multiverse adventures. It is a story that is constantly seeking to pull the rug from under your expectations. And, after all, it's the 25th Anniversary.
The book on the desk "the French Revolution" is probably supposed to be the book Susan had in An Unearthly Child.
I love all these touches. And the device the Doctor built with a Spirodon reference :)
It was supposed to be, but It can't be. She takes the book home with her in An Unearthly Child, and never gets the chance to return it.
@@ancientonezeroand the cover is not the same - but nevertheless, that's the reference isnt it.
@@ancientonezero and Coal Hill School looks different
@@ancientonezero and the junk yard is not identical is it?
There's modern housing visible in the graveyard scenes and the road sign for "school" would have been different in 1963.
A fantastic reaction to a wonderful episode ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
It’s so good isn’t it??? I love it so much.
All the fun references, all the characters and twists, all the coffin shenanigans and Dalek action, Ace being **awesome**…
“I can’t say what’s going on and I think that’s why I love it” - this has me in hope you’ll like one of my favorite stories later on 😄
This story is responsible for 35 years of me being a Doctor Who fan. Need I say anymore.
I think as a kid this story on broadcast propelled my love for the show into the stratosphere. Its never died down. Think you will struggle to find any dislikes for this story from any fan.
This is my 2nd favourite story in the entire show but this episode is my favourite single episode of all time. The dalek ace baseball bat scene, the music, doctor who being on TV. Part of an amazing 20/10 story
Not to mention the contemplative speech in the café!
This was like an unofficial 25th anniversary special, the school is where Susan went and the Toters Lane is the junkyard the first Doctor stayed. So this episode probably takes place right after the first Doctor left with Susan and Barbara and Ian
A few months after, going by the conversation with the vicar: "The grave's been ready for months!" / "I had to leave suddenly".
This was the 25th anniversary story. Unofficially. So you're right. In Australia this story was rushed to air just after its UK premiere - cos someone at the ABC had heard how good it was. Part 1 was the last classic story I saw for the first time 'live' as broadcast, on a Friday evening. On Saturday someone turned up with a tape of the whole story. I asked if the rest of the story was anywhere near as good as part 1 and was told it defo was. Which I didn't believe. Until I saw it for myself. We actually applauded after it finished. DW had become unrecognisably brilliant overnight and none of us could quite believe it. A young mate who dislikes DW caught this on Twitch a few years ago and was messaging me throughout saying how good it was.
He was amazed. Imagine how amazed we were in
1988. Luckily it wasn't the last of the brilliant stories...
This is a brilliant story and one of my many reasons why i love the 7th Doctor and Ace
This is a story I show to non fans if they want to see a Dr Who.
This could be my favourite 7th doctor story but in the top three the other two are in the future ps the ace through the window yes and it was the 25th anniversary of the series
The school base where the doctor is helping the military looks a lot like the school base unit used in invasion of the dinosaurs
This is the 25th anniversary episode. Now You understand the reference in "The Power of the Doctor" which Ace beats up a Dalek with a baseball bat which is one of her most iconic scenes in Who history.
The outside Doctor Who reference on the television cut half way through the announcement up to Doc... before it was fully said Doctor Who this also happened in the Peter Capaldi episode in NuWho "In The Forest of the Night" where the kids, Danny and Clara were walking down the lane and there was a red bus in the background which had a picture of the Doctor Who Series 8 promo poster with The Twelfth Doctor doing his pose and with Clara but hidden with bushes of trees.
Although Sylvester McCoy is not my favourite i do consider this one of his best ones.
I think i said in the last comment this takes place after "An Unearthly Child" the hand of omega was never mentioned in it this was retconned that The Doctor left the hand of omega behind because The First Doctor had to rush off when Ian and Barbara discovered his secret.
The "No Coloureds" sign was sadly the mindset in 1963 racism was still highly a thing.
It's the original Eastenders cafe set manned by Joseph Marcel known for playing Geoffrey in the Will Smith sitcom the fresh prince of bel air. Another exciting episode. So glad you are enjoying this. I met Sophie Aldred for the first time at the weekend and she really is Ace in real life too. This was the 25th anniversary story so loys of references to previous stories etc.
Not the *official* 25th anniversary story (though it deserves to be!). That was "Silver Nemesis". IIRC, JN-T wanted the "silver" (i.e. 25th) anniversary story to have "silver" in the title, and thus to have a certain specific enemy in it. Bizarre how things turned out... With Ben Aaronovitch turning in this awesome nostalgia-fest, which was also the most action-packed story the show had ever seen, while the other guys gave us... well... you'll see, Marie-Clare. =:o} It's good fun, but it ain't no "Remembrance".
@@therealpbristow yes true, I've thought of it as such for so long I forgot that Silver was supposed to be it
I learnt the Dalek voice in the cellar was Roy Skeltons voice, then the next Dalek who speaks is Brian Millers voice.
Im not sure what is strangest, Dr Who being on tv in an episode of Dr Who or Professor Quatermass being mentioned as part of the same universe.😮 Really appreciate Sylvester McCoy's stories a lot more than I did at the time, when it all seemed so cheap and tacky.
Ok not giving you spoilers here but will say:
The coffin is NOT Omega
The coffin was left behind by Hartnell's Doctor
This in my opinion should have been the 25th Anniversary story as you have seen from the references so far.
Ace is the best companion in the classic era of the Show, for the baseball bat alone. That is all i will say without spoilers.
Just keep watching. That's all I will say.
The show was starting it's 25th season with this story, so yeah, it is kind of celebratory. I feel like any doubts you might have had about Ace as a companion disappeared when she beat up that Dalek with a baseball bat and went crashing through that window.😊
The graveside vicar is played by the sane actor who played Tobias Vaughans incompetent henchman in The Invasion in 1968🎩
At this point Doctor Who is flowering again.
The First Doctor played by William Hartnell is the original fugitive Doctor on the run from his own people with the Hand Of Omega with his granddaughter Susan in a stolen Tardis, a mission that he was fleeing an undefined enemy at the time which was The Daleks before his first encounter with them on Skaro, the 7th Doctor knew in advance also the out come so he is back there to finish the work he started...
Hmm, there's a fair bit of supposition in there, some of which I don't agree with. There's nothing *on screen* in the show (in all the 26 original seasons, at least - I may have missed something later?) that says they were "fleeing an unknown enemy". (That was in the outline for the series by the first production team, but was never developed in the show, and a different, less dramatic origin story was created for him as Patrick Troughton was preparing to leave: "I was *bored*!" =:o} )
My interpretation is that the Doctor didn't know the Hand of Omega was aboard the TARDIS when he stole it, and once he realised what a hot potato he'd got on his hands, he thought he'd better find a way to hide it somewhere and then run as far away from it as possible, in case the Time Lords tracked it down (and thus found him and Susan, who probably had no idea about all this, as well). This would explain why his reaction to being discovered by Ian & Barbara is to kidnap them (he can't risk leaving behind witnesses who could say exactly where and when he was, and thus might reveal the location of the Hand) and get the hell away from Earth in 1963 as quickly as possible!
And of course, we *now* know it was all Clara's fault he left home in that *particular* TARDIS anyway... which makes Clara responsible both for depriving the Time Lords of one of their most powerful tools/weapons for a good length of time (probably a good thing!), and for the Doctor suddenly having the idea, several bodies later, to try to deal with the "Dalek problem" once and for all by using this nifty tool/weapon he happened to have stashed away... (Which in turn makes the Master/Missy responsible, because he/she set Clara up with the Doctor in the first place.)
Big, *big* step forward in the brewing of the Time War, here! And as the Doctor reflects in the cafe scene, his decision to go on the offensive against the Daleks has all sorts of unpredicted consequences. He's very close to becoming the War Doctor in this incarnation, but realising how badly the events of "Remembrance" could have gone wrong - not to mention the innocent lives lost as the story plays out - he steps back from that fate for a whole incarnation to come.
But as I say, this is all just my interpretation of things. YMMV. =:o}
This is one of my all-time favorite stories. It's a blast from start to finish! We get a couple of great Doctor Who character actors from the 60's and 70s, making guest appearances here, and not one but two different Dalek factions! All the references to the first doctor and Unearthly Child are great as well. (There's also a voice-over appearance by another classic series actor you'll recognize, but I'll mention that again later.)
Michael Sheard and Pamela Salem are great in this.
I will say this story, Slyvester is certainly settled, into the role of the 7th Dr and much as I missed Mel and was also sorry the welsh lass Ray from Delta and the Bannermen was not kept on as a new companion was a shame in billions of ways but still we got what we got and I liked the way Ace fought the headmaster who was under the control of the Daleks and had an electronic implant fitted behind his ear. I thought Mike was someone Ace, might date and also the little girl was very creepy too.
I thought the way the headmaster died was quite moving, but learning Mike Smith is associated with the man George Ratcliffe clearly makes the viewers very suspicious of him and he struck me as a bit sly when he went out early in the morning. I also think, the Group captain is rather unable to think outside the box but at least the Doctor can help the military and the civilians defeat his arch-enemies the dreaded Daleks and also I do miss Mel and wish Marie-Clare she could have stayed with the Dr instead of going off with Glitz. I still think Ray the Welsh lass from two earlier stories had more than enough to be retained as a companion to the Doctor but sadly she was not.
I’m going to predict it now: The 7th Doctor will rival the 3rd for you in terms of ❤️.
And this is only the tip of the iceberg - so much more amazing stuff to come with him and Ace. I am a HUGE Pertwee fan but McCoy - 🎊🎈.
I love this stories. I remember that at the time, some people's reaction was "OMG! John Nathan-Turner CAN do good"Who" stories, after all!"
Which is surprising given he'd been in charge since 1981 and plenty of good stories had aired prior to that point.
@@kaledmasterme I agree, but I distinctly remember some reacting as though "Remembrance" was the forst "good" story of his era.
25th anniversary season!
To me this is as good as any New Who and if it wasn’t already too late could have been the renaissance of the show.
It should have been the anniversary show.
Easily the strongest Dalek story since Genesis and better than any Dalek story since.
It was. It was the 25th anniversary special.
@@joshuajoshua2732 actually it wasn’t. It was one after the next one. But I won’t say more because of possible spoilers.
@@robalexander8065 I rate this one higher than every other Dalek story personally.
This is the Genesis of New Who, imo, what I call the origin of "the Dodgy Doctor!"
Loved your reaction to the meta "start of a new science fiction series..." I sometimes wonder if this is an alternative universe as 5.15pm in November would be dark outside.
💯 I can't remember the last time I saw such a jaw-drop!
The thing is, this is set a few months after Susan's enjoyment of the darkness and fog of (presumably) November on her way home from school. So probably February, at the earliest, and maybe even as late as May.
Ben Aaronovitch originally intended the "new science fiction series" to be "Professor X" (a reference to Ace always calling the Doctor "Professor", but the script was later changed to call it "Doc... (something)". So maybe in the reality we're watching here, "Doc... (something)" just happens to be the name of a show that was rushed into production over the winter, to replace the failed "Professor X" that had started in late 1962? =:o} (N.B. No onscreen date was ever given the events of "An Unearthly Child", so they could in fact have happened at the end of 1962, or right at the start of 1963! It's just a fannish convention/assumption that they happened on the same day the episode really aired.)
These days people are lining up to create controversial or canon-busting plots for the series, but I think this serial is really the first to actively recontextualize events right at the start of the whole thing. And that's notwithstanding something like 'The Deadly Assassin' turning Gallifrey - previously mysterious and powerful - into something between a boarding school and parliament. It's a story that proves influential not only on the decade to come but on the 21st century series - even if I wasn't necessarily sold on some of the ideas at the time.
All of your questions require spoilers. They will be answered in later episodes.
Apart from one, Which I'll answer.
Yes, it is a special anniversary occasion.
Can't remember off the top of my head how many years.
I won't spoil the remaining episodes, but apart from the Dalek earlier in this episode changing voices and some awful in-joke gags like "the time is a quarter past five", this is an excellent episode.
Wven the incidental music works in its favor.
Ace saying "I'm going out for a breath of FRESH air" in disgust is told a lot better in the novelization...
Season 25 is clearly running strong.
The novelisation is amazing on every level. It was commissioned just at the time when the books had been given a bigger page allocation than ever before, and Ben Aaronovitch turned in a really rich, fully-fledge novel, fleshing out the backstory/ies of Prof. Rachel Jensen and Group Captain Gilmore in particular. It's one of the few I've re-read multiple times. the way he turned those highly visually-conceived Dalek-vs-Dalek battle-scenes into readable prose, telling us what's actually happening to the creatures inside the Daleks as they fight, is brilliant.
It was very clear that Ben was an author to keep an eye on... And after a sadly protracted delay in getting noticed very much outside of the "Doctor Who" context, look at him go now! =:o}
I love you... You are watching my Childhood😢
This story opened the 25th anniversary season, so it is part of a celebration of the show's history, as you noticed. However, it isn't the official 25th Anniversary story, that story is yet to come.
This part answers your question about how long after "An Unearthly Child" this is set. The Vicar mentions the grave for the Hand of Omega has been ready for a month. So this is roughly a month after "An Unearthly Child".
Great reaction. One of my favourite scenes in all Who is when Ace takes on a Dalek with the enhanced baseball bat. The racist sign hanging on the window in Ace’s B&B room was a sadly quite common thing in 1963. You will love the next two episodes….
Sylvester McCoy talked very interestingly in recent years about how the Beeb were going to chop that scene with the sign in the window of the B&B - but he objected strongly that it needed to be left in and it ultimately was left in. Classic Who had plenty to say about social problems, just like the new series.
@@176MarkW I like that Ace doesn't vocalise her obvious disgust at the sign instead using the phrase "breath of fresh air". A great example of Doctor Who adding social commentary in a more subtle and nuanced way.
@@176MarkW interesting. I didn’t know that - good for Mr McCoy.
@@julianblake3140 Here's a clip of him talking about it, time stamped at the relevant place ruclips.net/video/PNahLvK1eIQ/видео.html
@@176MarkW thanks!
Rest assured. The rest of it is just as good.
I am very much enjoying your enjoyment of this - in my view, it is the seventh Doctor’s best story. Ace’s baseball bat attack on the Dalek and her crashing through the window are probably her most iconic moments, though of course Leela had already gone through a window back in The Talons of Weng-Chiang, so that scene wasn’t unprecedented. I know Sophie Aldred was also very proud of the scene where Ace discovers the racist sign, a little reminder that life was far from perfect in 1963 and also pertinent to the wider story, pointing out to the viewer that humanity can be just as intolerant of difference as Daleks.
The doomed headmaster is played by Michael Sheard, making his sixth appearance in Classic Who, in a role not a million miles from the fearsome teacher Mr Bronson that he was playing at the same time in Grange Hill. It’s nice to see him again, though it is also a shame he doesn’t get more to do. The announcement of the first episode of a new SF show is a very meta moment - we are of course invited to think it is Who, but we cleverly cut to the next scene before it is actually confirmed, as otherwise a real hornet’s nest would doubtless have been stirred up among fans…
The “No coloureds” racism sign also ties into the Daleks own racism blobs and bionic blobs with bits added, not pure in their blobbiness and hating each other’s chromosomes and the resulting war to the death. We also have ‘The Association’ with their racism as well. Plus John mentions his cane cutter father and slavery. For the time it was set this was very forward thinking. Also back in 1988 we are educated in racism and slavery as part of our history in a children’s programme, a brave move by Ben Aaronovich.
@@eddherring4972 [NODS] And it all ties back to the original reason given in "The Daleks" for the way the Daleks hated the Thals: "A dislike for the unlike. they're frightened of you because you're different from them. So whatever you do, it doesn't make any difference."
(I'm happy to say that in the real world, how a hated group behaves towards their haters *CAN* sometimes make a difference, and indeed a positive one... But it's really not easy to tell in advance whether that difference will make things better or worse; and I'm *far* from being in a position to advise any group or individual in particular how they should treat their haters! "It worked for me, that one time!" is not a guarantee of repeated success... =:o\ )
Can’t believe you didn’t spot the butler from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air in the night-time cafe scene.
Maybe MC didn't watch Fresh Prince...
Yeah, I doubt you had much disappointment from the rest of this story.
The Gavin and Stacey guy was also in the first scene of the NuWho episode Boom Town from series one.
It was the Doctor that told Mike to say that Ace has to stay at home.
Doctor Who on the TV was just a 25th anniversary gag
He's Gwen's Dad as well in Torchwood.
Well you still have a newspaper headline making episode to come, this story builds and builds. Starts strong and finishes like it’s made from titanium.
The Announcer on the tv is an Easter Egg for the fans and strictly speaking it’s a kind of 4th wall break. The moment in the cafe is a great cool down moment and contrasts well with all the rushing around and action. The words spoken by both the Doctor and John (Joseph Marcell, Jeffrey from Fresh Prince) are very poignant.
What you basically have is 2 factions of Daleks and the Doctor trying not to get everyone caught up in their conflict. The 1st Doctor was on Earth during episode 1 of An Unearthly Child attempting to hide the Hand Of Omega from everyone and anyone. The 1st Doctor first encounters the Daleks in The Daleks episodes so could not have been hiding it from the Daleks specifically. The 7th Doctor returns to Earth to complete what the 1st Doctor did not, by taking The Hand Of Omega from the funeral director and burying it in the grave marked with the Greek Omega sign. Hence the reason the worker believes it’s “An old geezer with white hair.” We can assume that the 1st Doctor left on the same day because in part 1 Susan’s book is picked up by Ace and would not be there the following day.
Andrew Cartmel Script Editor had plans over the seasons to add a little mystery to the title character by making the Doctor more than just a timelord as the series had become a bit goodies vs baddies with no real development and it is implied that the Doctor was involved in the construction of The Hand Of Omega:
“Didn’t we have trouble with the prototype.”
“We?”
“They.”
More nods to the past still to come and the rest of the story doesn’t disappoint. Back in 1988 this was absolutely compulsive viewing. Certainly this story is 1 in my top 10, eclipsing Caves Of Androzani and Talons Of Weng-Chiang. When you have watched it I suggest you binge rewatch it hopefully you will have the information you need to link everything and where needed the reminders of previous episodes you might need.
Your last paragraph raises an important point: With the wide adoption of VHS VCRs in the UK by then, this was really the first story that was made with the understanding that a large portion of the audience would re-watch it at least once, and some us many times; and so it's written in a way that specifically *rewards* repeated viewings, while also being as powerful an experience as possible on first viewing.
TV - and Doctor Who in particular, as a "cult" show whose most dedicated fans had already been recording the soundtracks of stories for two decades - was entering a new era; Andrew Cartmel, and the stable of young writers he built for the show (and Ben Aaronovitch in particular) really understood that.
Another Doctor put the Hand on Earth because he knew the Daleks would want it in the Future. It was 1963 so Doctor Who had started. Mike is more than just a Traitor but that bit was Edited out. The Doctor and the Man in the Coffee Shop lasted longer and ended better but they cut that out as well.
The barman is the same actor who played the butler in The Fresh Prince of Bel Air,Joseph Marcell🎩
Totally missed that!
In the 90s, letting listings were filled with "no DSS". Still waiting for the moral reaction against those
Probably because there are still many of them.
DSS?
@@seanryan3020 Department of Social Security, the old name for half of what is now the DWP. “No DSS” means “no-one on benefits need apply”.
Ah so! Thanks
Oops! Marie-Clare, I must apologise, I appear to have accidentally taken over your entire comments section on this one! =:o1
I think it might just be that I'm a wee bit of a fan of this story, and of Ben Aaraonvitch as a writer. [BLUSH]
Sadly this is pretty much one of the last halfway decent stories of the classic series.
In short - what's not to like?
Now I loved this but didn't like the book. I appreciate that Aaronovitch wanted to do something different but I didn't like some of the new characterisation. I know people really enjoy it though
If you want to be pedantic it should have been dark when Doc was on the telly
Ben Aaronovitch is a genius
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@@MarieClaresWorld WOOHOOO!
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