The gift that keeps on giving! Worcester ignition lockout!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This @WorcesterBoschHeating Greenstar Junior is suffering with lockout problems and not igniting. Follow me as we delve into the possible causes and rectification!
There are also some great handy tips on this one, especially for air/gas ratio and combustion settings!
Gas Valve -
Dead Testing:
Top two spades - 390 Ω +/- 10%
Bottom two spades - 190 Ω +/- 10%
Live testing:
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W/out Transformer 24vDC=
Across top two and bottom two spades
Resetting gas valve for air/gas ratio:
Wind min and max fully clockwise then unwind MAX out 7¾ turns and MIN 2¾ turns - this should reset the gas valve back to factory.
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I’ve had a few people comment that I was testing the fan pressure from the incorrect place - it’s from the white tube at the top above the fan!
Thank you, extremely comprehensive overview
@@harrysahota4072 no worries! Hope it’s helpful! Thank you for watching! I enjoy making more content like this!
Really excellent channel and I watch them all. I wouldn’t respond or comment on negative views from bellends. Don’t give them the satisfaction, they hate to be ignored.
@@neilbeckett2325 😂 it’s hard not to get drawn out, especially when there’s reasoning behind doing something or not doing something - but you can’t win them all - they’re all valid opinions and to be honest, I think the algorithms like the negativity anyway, I’d just prefer to have a grown up conversation about things rather than some just mud slinging on why they’re better at the job than everyone else.
Thank you, really appreciate the support and following the journey!
Very interesting one that. Very refreshing to watch n learn a few tips n tricks❤.. thanks Ritchie
@@user-li8gr8ur8l glad you enjoyed! Thank you for supporting!
Good video always interesting to see how other Engineers fault find / method of working.
@@cfgman1 thank you! So many different ways and procedures! Appreciate you watching!
Another great video Richie very informative taught me something new so thank you 👊🏼
@@karlcampbell418 thank you Karl! I had no idea previously how to reset these gas valves - definitely a new one on me, only been working on this model for 10+ years 😂
Good comprehensive video that shows a variety of test procedures...theres not just one way to skin a cat 👌 (not that i skin cats 😳😂)
@@she_plumbs so you say! Thank you! Thought the GV reset may be useful for some!
Did you notice that the white plastic burner plate clamp was damaged, this means that the gasket won’t seal properly, fan pressure test point is at the top with a white rubber tube connected
@@CarlAtkinson-zu1zh thanks for letting me know, strange, I’ve confirmed which one the fan pressure was with Worcester and been told this in the past - must have been a miscommunication as you’re not the first person to say it. I’ll pin a comment to the top letting people know which one is correct! Thanks for watching!
What is the white plastic burner plate clamp ??
@@jamesknowles550heat exchanger retaining kit - part no. 87434010910 👌🏽
A split bearing plate might cause a humming noise but would not cause ignition lockout
Love the content, happy subscriber!
@@leeburnetty thanks Lee! Appreciate that and appreciate you watching and subscribing!
Good video 🎉
Not really! A bit long winded for a trainer
@@plumbertime to be fair I didn’t get chance to watch it all.
@@Heatking to be fair I shouldn’t be hater and just watch it and not comment but I couldn’t help it. Sometimes just gotta say it I see it.
@@Heatking cheers mate, thought it was similar to your beginning yesterday!
@@plumbertime it’s just showing the different tests you can do and the different processes of elimination. I’m not here to train anyone, if someone gets something from a video, great, but it’s just me making content because I enjoy it. Thanks for watching anyway
Test fan pressure from red cap above fan 👍🏼
@@alan_edwards_404 yes, didn’t show that on this. Sometimes things do get missed when filming! Thanks for watching
When i saw gas valve opening and closing that means coil ok should have gone for electrode and gas kit straight away but over all a very good video u explaned it perfectly each component testing and operation in there values
Spot on
@@kapilsammy thank you, same as you, those that are experienced will know these things but there are a lot of people newer to the trade that won’t or will need to know these other tests for other reasons and just wanted to show the readings etc they’d be looking for. I think when people are new to the trade, it’s good for them to be thorough. Thank you for watching - appreciate it!
@@RJHeating very good video
@@kapilsammy thank you, appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Great video very knowledgeable. I only passed my gas earlier this year so still got loads to learn.
Are there any additional course you recommend which can help improve engineers.
Looking at how you just worked through that wouldn’t have a clue 😂
@@charliefox6987 Thank you! Appreciate it! To be honest, it’s just practice and experience. It’s always useful to call manufacturer tech helplines too as you often find having made the phone call, you remember what they’ve told you for future! I’ve heard the @BaxiBoilersUK breakdowns course is good (@she_plumbs has attended this before I believe!). Just don’t be afraid to get stuck in, within reason!
@@RJHeating thanks for the reply 👍👍
@@charliefox6987 are you on instagram?
@@RJHeating unfortunately not mate! Why’s that ?
@@charliefox6987 ahh that’s a shame! It’s just quite a nice community on there and sometimes easier to chat if you had issues or queries etc! Always happy to lend a hand!
That fault was always gonna be electrodes problem combined with the burner gasket seal. Did you replace or even clean the electrodes ???
@@paulkramer2599 no, electrodes were not replaced but the boiler is now working so I guess they weren’t at fault this time. Thanks for watching
No fan pressure test ?
@@dinendale666 not on camera no, sometimes things get missed when filming 😭 despite it being such a long video this time 😂 but yes, it was done 👌🏽
don't like to criticise as love your videos but you went a long way round fault finding this one and that burner gasket looked absolutely shot and would have been 100% leaking fumes into the combustion chamber a month ago when you changed the fan PCB?
To be honest I was surprised myself that it hadn’t shown up before leaking but I previously done my usual checks - analyser round the electrodes and the rest of where the plate meets the heat ex and no signs of CO - but you’re right, you’d think by the look of it that it definitely would have, I’ve seen them spilling in a lot better condition!
As for everything in the video, there’s a couple of reasons: 1. I took the opportunity for a job like this to go through all the different checks in order to film it and show the different types of testing which can be done & 2. I actually made a point of making sure all my ducks were in a row as this has had so many issues the last month or so and didn’t want to be faced with an incorrect diagnosis and turning up with the wrong part regardless of how unlikely that was!
Obviously, in the “real” would you’d come to the same answers a lot quicker without keep proving the GV was opening etc, the one pressure test would have been enough!
Hope this clears some bits up and thanks for watching - appreciate it as always!
@@RJHeatingno worries mate as i said don't like to criticise as your videos are always very good & informative 👌
I'm sure you're aware but worth mentioning the square white plastic bit on the retaining bracket at rear of HEX always needs checking as they sometimes break when the burner gasket perishes due to heat and results in the retaining plate not clamping down tight enough 👍
@@alanjones1301 thank you, I didn’t know that and will add it to my checklist! Is that a part you can replace or new heat ex?
Honestly, I’m more than happy with constructive criticism, sometimes it’s it what people say, it’s the attitude in which they say it, hence the lengthy comment thread on here 😂 but it’s water under the bridge! Genuinely appreciate you watching and the feedback!!
no mate it's tricky to change though as the screws are very tight and tricky to get out but defo need to keep an eye on it's part of the worcester HEX retaining kit but can be purchased separately
@@alanjones1301 awesome! Thanks Alan! Will definitely keep an eye on this!
So it was the bearing plate that was at fault just because of the split?
On this occasion it was, but if you’re having any other ignition type issues, this will show you some of the other checks to do. To be honest, I was quite surprised that small a split would cause it but stranger things have happened! Thank you for watching!
A tear in the bearing plate wouldn’t stop ignition, I go to boilers all the time where the bearing plate has gone completely. There was probably a tear in the gas supply tube that wasn’t shown in the video… That would mess up the ratios.
@@Connor-pt9om the tube was thoroughly checked - and showed no signs of cracks or splits, but this does cause ignition issues, you’re right. This time was the bearing plate 🤷🏽♂️
Is the negative pressure point not on the top side with the red cap?
@@user-zd3zw4fi4l yes it is. The port the creator used is used by the aps
Just check your working-gas pressure gas valve opened with good pressure so all that other crap was a waste. Low fan pressure doesn’t always mean bad bearing plate. You should make it clearer if you’re trying to teach people. If you changed a fan pcb on that boiler next time just strip it and you would have seen the problem. Not hating but if you’re teaching you need to be on it and you ain’t yet!😬
@@plumbertime I mean the key element there is, I’m not out here trying to be a teacher - if someone learns something from a video, or gains a piece of knowledge and takes something from it, that’s all well and good but I’m not a teacher. These are my methods or processes, of course sometimes exaggerated for the sake of content but it gives different angles.
I don’t think I said low fan pressure meant faulty bearing plate did I - if I did, must have misspoke because we both know there are multiple causes. Not sure why you’d be stripping the fan when changing the PCB on it but each to their own. I’ve been a breakdown engineer for a very long time, and built a nearly 2 decade career out of it - but it never ceases to amaze me how others in our trade will try and shoot you down where they can. Thanks for watching anyway
@@RJHeatingfair enough I thought you said the fan pcb at 1.25. Guess you meant you replaced the pcb and the fan. If you replaced the fan you should have checked the bearing plate! I got your 3 comments in my emails that don’t show here. You said I’m the only person who posted hate that also post on RUclips, and that’s because I’m not in the little club, I’m honest. That fact you ring Worcester Bosch to tell you the gas valve is open is my entire point!
Someone will watch this and do all that unnecessary headache.
If you have a Channel accept crittism Mine is there in the open, and open to criticism, I don’t delete my comment either.
@@plumbertime nobody asked you to delete your comment, as I said, all are welcome. I accept criticism, but I do have a right to reply and clarify.
No. Just the fan pcb was replaced so I’m not sure why you’d take it out and check the bearing plate?
I’ve not deleted any comments either so not sure why you can’t see them.
I’m not sure what little club you’re referring to? My point was that usually you don’t get negativity from people who also post content as they understand the hard work and dedication that goes with it and that we don’t always produce the best videos or things aren’t always exactly as they are on the job.
Yep, I did call Worcester tech to confirm the GV was opening enough as I didn’t feel like it was dropping enough on the face of it, I’d rather a quick phone call to tech to confirm then be there in front of the customer on another visit holding an incorrect part.
It’s only you that keeps referring to yourself as hater or posting hate? You’re clearly a cut above us all 🤷🏽♂️
@RJHeating
@plumbertime I’ll give you one thing, you’re the first person I’ve had throw negative comments that puts their own content up. Usually it’s the faceless, videoless accounts that want to slate you. Either way, all comments are welcome and I’m sure you’re aware we put these things up knowing it’s puts us in the firing line.
That’s one so don’t talk rubbish.
Seems you got upset because someone was negative to you. Who actually knows a bit. Don’t worry I won’t be negative again as won’t be watching your crap.
Adios. I’ll be unsubscribing so you can carry on with positive only reviews and feel amazingly excellent!
@@plumbertime that’s one what? Did I call you a hater? Don’t think so, just said you were negative, which you were no?
Often in life you meet rude people who just refer to themselves as “honest” but you do you.
You’re more than welcome to unsubscribe, but a little bit for you to take away - maybe next time try and be constructive rather than an attempt at causing offence, it’ll make a better person out of you, and potentially improve whatever someone else is doing.
I genuinely don’t know how people like you have time to be that angry over a video. Anyways, thanks for watching 💁🏽♂️