Nick is actually the one that made me realize that I should care about track records 😂 We vet prop firms for payout history, so why wouldn’t we do that for traders selling stuff?
Another good video Nike, If you sell a product, you should show proof. It amassed me how many self proclaimed traders do there podcast from a hotel room.
Ok, so for the folks who have that superpower of hindsight do not know trading.all trades can fail, you only know if it worked once you close. But the trade you take you have a probability of it working, say it’s 55% it will pan out, and 45% it won’t. In order to to get a good Risk management, you have to enter off the signal you get. That same failed trade could’ve and will win 55% of the time. Some times the trade goes the opposite and you land in that 45% failure. 🤷
Going back to the scaling discussion. Just a content idea for you Nick, how about for 2025 yourself, Tori and other verified traders with track records for fun, start with for example the $10,000 you mentioned and run a completion to who can scale the most over 2025. Perhaps monthly check-in videos with everyone and go over what went right or wrong. I dunno, just an idea. Think people would dig that.
The only real issue with this kind of thing is perception and what is typical. Some new traders can view content like hers and see her by the pool and all her nice things and assume she got this all from her trading, and they can have it too. Most if not everyone that is like Nick and Tori were somewhat affluent already. It was never a rags to riches story. I'd be extremely interested in a youtuber that started with $500 10 years ago and has built their wealth through this style of trading. My worry with Tori is she does not put the disclaimers up, does not say trading is risky and her results are not typical..And she's selling a course just like Trader Ross from warrior trading did, and he got nailed by the FTC because he misled people into believing his system would make them millionaires without the proper legal jargon to avoid liability. I have nothing against either trader here, in fact, I'm a gold member on Nick's discord because I liked his approach. But, you have to keep in mind that it's a business and they are trying to make money by selling their products and information.
Also I just took her last accelerator course two weeks ago and there were 200 students. 2000 USD each! It was worth EVERY penny. It changed my life for sure.
@@Kilo80Kilowhat are you talking about she was wealthy?! You obviously know NOTHINF about her. She saved up 5,000 working retail jobs 10 years ago started trading with that.
Everything is gambling for the 9-2-5 and hands down swing trading is by far my fave ❤ setting up a trade that runs its course properly is the greatest flex
Great listen. I would create more shorts on your section on if you should pay for courses or not (I would share them for sure). I think it is so important that people realize when they pay for a course they are paying to have someone walk them through learning. Like you would with a college course. Sure we all can save a buck by just trolling RUclips but it is not the same. There is tons of value in a prepared course.
14:39 "....not the PnL..." While that sounds great and valid from a retail perspective, I'm not sure it would still make sense if you were at GS or some hedge fund trading a couple 100millions.
I too, would love to learn how to do this…………… and it was wild. When she closed profits. AT MARKET. It matched the P&L on screen. I always lose a few when I close at market. I hate this! Please DO ASK how she does this
at the end of the day if ppl truly believe yall are scammers then why are they still watching? lol that reason is the only reason i need to know to write those ppl off that no matter what you do or say or show they wont believe you. is like what tori's uncle said, theyre whiners lmao keep doing what yall are doing love the content from both of yall
Or that person is such a good liar that they can full everyone around them. Sex & Money make people act out the most wicked ideals! Tori is suspected of having a colab with a Prop Firm Apex and they give her prop firm accounts to trade in. She is hiding the account where she has huge losses. There are more peopled lying today then ever before>
Tori, Nick you guys are winning by just being in this space the internet is not! Who gives a damn! Be you always! Make mistakes. Take losses. Do everything the internet is so cynical about! Most people criticizing don’t have a fraction of the success you two have! Give yourself more credit!
Nice interview…. 😂😂😂😂…. After your last interview with Tori trades…. I said it that she was a gambler….. 130% this year 😢…. And we haven’t even finished the year…
Found Tori a month ago and immediately started her course, I'm a forex trader so I back tested her strategy, I'm amazed on how well it works and how ridiculously simple it is, she is a Godsend!!!...
The reason why people say negative things when you lose is because yall didn't document your journey until you made it. So if you all would've shown when you was working that 9-5 and showing us the real you maybe now they wouldn't bring the negativity
I did actually work a full time software job and trade. Additionally, I did also create RUclips content at the time as well. Also, from experience, the reason most people won’t do that is because of how insane that work load actually was.
I'm very skeptical of anyone who claims to trend line trade and nothing else. If she is profitable, she is doing something else. Probably knows macro and fundamental analysis well. Or her uncle who I think she said was an institutional trader gave her the vwaps and and exact MA ratios that the institutions take long/shorts on. She just says it's just trend lines and nothing else to bait ignorant and lazy people into buying her trading course.
something like that is just surface level information, you gotta adapt the different things you like to your own and practice and journal and get stats to improve. Courses, books..... it's a general approach to everybody.
I would be skeptical if I hadn't backtested it. It actually makes sense why something so simple works. We only make money when we follow the trend. Draw a trend line & follow it.
It's actually rather interesting you bring this up. It's not out of the realm of belief that she makes money with trend lines. I do, but I do incorporate some fundamentals. You only need a slight edge and sound risk management to be profitable. This is why most any strategy can generate you profit if it has at least a slight edge and you execute 100%. I haven't seen a lot of her content but she seems to make a lot of money on platinum futures which really upon examination looks decent for trend line trading on the medium term. We also have to remember the law of large numbers and even over the course of 100 trades over a few years, you can put together an impressive cluster of wins but the true test is going through say a cluster of 10 to 15 loses. I'd say if she was trading the Qs or EUR/USD for example in the medium term, she'd have a bit more bumpy ride. And who knows, at anytime platinum's characteristics might change and her edge will disappear.
The main reason I don't put much into her system is that of the 2 or 3 videos I have watched she doesn't follow her own entry/exit criteria for trades. In fairness she's 100% transparent about this lack of discipline.
@@patrickgamboa7270 You will not have the same mindset getting your education for free. You will be more determined to gain your money you invested into trading education back from actually trading.
idk how i haven't seen nicktrades before when we trade the same way unreal to me that i've come across so many trading styles just to land on his channel so late
she charges 2 grand for some 21 day program to teach people how to draw a trendline, come on dude i thought you were better than this supporting such b/s
Selling courses over 1k means you are "scamming" people. There are people out there with 30-100 dollar courses that can teach you way more useful stuff than trend lines.
you shouldnt share your trading profolia, but you have to prove to the masses you are trustworthy profitable trader, cause 80% of trading gurus are fake
Actually she is super fake. She works for Apex Prop Firm and they have helped her blow up in exchange for her female profile as high profits trader all of a sudden. She is not telling us about the Prop Firm she uses to hedge bets and blow up accounts. She deletes anyone from the comments that even mentions her working for Apex
With paid education, what people forget is that you're paying for experience. If you have a great teacher who will guide you and help correct your mistakes before and after you make them, then that is worth every cent. Sure you can self learn, I did, but you will be paying the markets for your education while you fumble your way around. So the question is, who would you rather pay, the markets or someone to guide you?
She swing trades and swing trades can go on for weeks or months especially being that she trades the 4h timeframe. That amounts to not much time per week required and time to create content and sell courses. It’s called multiple streams of income. Let’s see your p&l statements.
@@notanymore9471multiple streams of income is the way to go. Shes been doing this for 9 years. She's had her chart time and now sticks to 4h. What's the issue here?
People who trade profitably enough to teach something so incredibly hard as trading is basically impossible without them putting in a lot of their own effort. in order to properly teach somebody trading takes a lot of time. and in order to properly trade takes a lot more than that. so courses is basically a scam unless you're prepared to get low-level "directed at everybody" advise, not a way to get rich. its a lot better to find a mentor that is elite and getting them to help you. Directed more towards the specific trader. but that's not profitable. I know a few people that have taught others and made them so much better, but you gotta find the right people. Courses directed at the general public will be surface level kind of
I don’t get how traders/investors say I’m a swing trader, or I use only the 4hr chart. What happens if you come across great scalp, or a great buy and hold, or a nice play off the hourly. Why do they limit themselves. Don’t get me wrong if your new, then yea maybe focus on one time one style but once it clicks and you understand l, ok it’s popping on the hourly, so it’s a hammer on the 4hr, and dojo on the daily, etc. not sure this is making sense but I have it in my head 😂 😂 I like these 2 cause their chill, theirs no BS talk it light hearted and good content. Plus they aren’t cussing all over the video. I can’t stand that, automatic click and unsubscribe 😂😂😂
I feel better of my self after watching this video, if professional traders, like you still making mistakes sometimes. Now I have realistic target for my profit that make may trading a lot better.
Paying Warren Buffet for an event is not the same as making videos and selling courses 😊 also the term content creator is too funny. Trying to make a title better than "I'm a youtuber" couple of tubes, tubing it, for you to watch. That's the reality.
@@TraderNick She made like 110k this year. She sells her accelerator for 2k. She needs to sell 50 to make the same amount. It is the influencer business not trading business.
How can a person pay for "trading education" of a guru when the person doesn't know if the guru's system is a fit for them? It's like saying that you wear a sized 6 shoe but I'm going to sell you a size 5 or 8 sized shoe and say this will work for you. How can I sell you a scalping course, if your personality is more comfortable with that of intraday or swing trading? How can I sell you a stock course if really you are more into trading crypto, forex or futures or options? Get what I am saying? If you spend several thousand dollars on a guru's course, you are going to try and force yourself to make that system work even though the system might not be compatible with your personality. I say find out first what you are interested in trading, then research the styles of trading to see what you are comfortable with, read some books on technical analysis, if you have any questions you can fill in the blanks with videos on youtube, then come up with a strategy, paper trade the strategy and keep stats and review and if it works, go live. It's laughable to call some a "mentor" who's in their 20's and have been supposedly trading for only a few years.
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This is the best collab😂
No "gurus" involved... This might be one of my first trader talk videos that I watched till the end
I unsubscribed
Nick is actually the one that made me realize that I should care about track records 😂
We vet prop firms for payout history, so why wouldn’t we do that for traders selling stuff?
You two guys are definitely the most transparent traders in the business. Thanks for doing this
I like the way you guys are filtering out the bad ones and making the real ones known to newbies. Thank you for all you do, and also, thanks to Iman.
Another good video Nike, If you sell a product, you should show proof. It amassed me how many self proclaimed traders do there podcast from a hotel room.
Wish I'd found Tori years ago. Would have saved a lot of time!
Ok, so for the folks who have that superpower of hindsight do not know trading.all trades can fail, you only know if it worked once you close. But the trade you take you have a probability of it working, say it’s 55% it will pan out, and 45% it won’t. In order to to get a good Risk management, you have to enter off the signal you get. That same failed trade could’ve and will win 55% of the time. Some times the trade goes the opposite and you land in that 45% failure. 🤷
So you're gambling in other words.
@@AlexLaw-y9j As everyone else, whether they like to admit it or not :D
@@barbedgirl Its possible to get your odds much higher than 50%
50% is literally entering at random times.
Going back to the scaling discussion. Just a content idea for you Nick, how about for 2025 yourself, Tori and other verified traders with track records for fun, start with for example the $10,000 you mentioned and run a completion to who can scale the most over 2025. Perhaps monthly check-in videos with everyone and go over what went right or wrong. I dunno, just an idea. Think people would dig that.
This is one if those f4ke, trading g,urus that imantrading, was talking about 😂
Thanks for the Collab with Tori Trades TraderNick.
jeez girl you made 100k+ this year to date? thats insane be proud of that
and with a basic approach that shows she has really great psychology which is one of the requirements to become proftitable in this industry
@@KaranSewbaran right and its only up from there, she shouldnt compare because irl thats impressive and above average
The only real issue with this kind of thing is perception and what is typical. Some new traders can view content like hers and see her by the pool and all her nice things and assume she got this all from her trading, and they can have it too. Most if not everyone that is like Nick and Tori were somewhat affluent already. It was never a rags to riches story. I'd be extremely interested in a youtuber that started with $500 10 years ago and has built their wealth through this style of trading. My worry with Tori is she does not put the disclaimers up, does not say trading is risky and her results are not typical..And she's selling a course just like Trader Ross from warrior trading did, and he got nailed by the FTC because he misled people into believing his system would make them millionaires without the proper legal jargon to avoid liability. I have nothing against either trader here, in fact, I'm a gold member on Nick's discord because I liked his approach. But, you have to keep in mind that it's a business and they are trying to make money by selling their products and information.
Also I just took her last accelerator course two weeks ago and there were 200 students. 2000 USD each!
It was worth EVERY penny. It changed my life for sure.
@@Kilo80Kilowhat are you talking about she was wealthy?! You obviously know NOTHINF about her. She saved up 5,000 working retail jobs 10 years ago started trading with that.
My two favourite traders in one video 🥂
I think nick is the only American I know how is not a technical analyses guru, keep it up man ! 🤗
Respected genuine trader on air. Salute
Great video Nick! Very inspiring just listening to you two talk.
Everything is gambling for the 9-2-5 and hands down swing trading is by far my fave ❤ setting up a trade that runs its course properly is the greatest flex
I agree, what swing strategy do you use
where can i get the tradingvire neon light fixure
Great listen. I would create more shorts on your section on if you should pay for courses or not (I would share them for sure). I think it is so important that people realize when they pay for a course they are paying to have someone walk them through learning. Like you would with a college course. Sure we all can save a buck by just trolling RUclips but it is not the same. There is tons of value in a prepared course.
Love this collab
14:39 "....not the PnL..." While that sounds great and valid from a retail perspective, I'm not sure it would still make sense if you were at GS or some hedge fund trading a couple 100millions.
Ask her about platinum. And how she gets perfect fills for 20 lots at market in Asia when a single minute candle stick didn’t even have 20 lots on it.
I too, would love to learn how to do this…………… and it was wild.
When she closed profits. AT MARKET. It matched the P&L on screen. I always lose a few when I close at market. I hate this!
Please DO ASK how she does this
@@thesturdygentleman Tori is using a prop firm account
I know that. Not talking bout that
I’ve genuinely came across these two (internet) and there honest people
Tori is not honest. She is not talking about her prop firm deal that gives her multiple accounts to trade with.
@ 🤔
at the end of the day if ppl truly believe yall are scammers then why are they still watching? lol that reason is the only reason i need to know to write those ppl off that no matter what you do or say or show they wont believe you. is like what tori's uncle said, theyre whiners lmao keep doing what yall are doing love the content from both of yall
Or that person is such a good liar that they can full everyone around them. Sex & Money make people act out the most wicked ideals! Tori is suspected of having a colab with a Prop Firm Apex and they give her prop firm accounts to trade in. She is hiding the account where she has huge losses. There are more peopled lying today then ever before>
Tori, Nick you guys are winning by just being in this space the internet is not! Who gives a damn! Be you always! Make mistakes. Take losses. Do everything the internet is so cynical about! Most people criticizing don’t have a fraction of the success you two have! Give yourself more credit!
Nice Roast! ...... is she selling course also? hopefully she does, so she makes more money :)
Nice interview…. 😂😂😂😂…. After your last interview with Tori trades…. I said it that she was a gambler….. 130% this year 😢…. And we haven’t even finished the year…
You said you were going to link to her first video in description, but alas, it's not there.
P.S. Irregardless isn't a word ;-)
Found Tori a month ago and immediately started her course, I'm a forex trader so I back tested her strategy, I'm amazed on how well it works and how ridiculously simple it is, she is a Godsend!!!...
I trust content creators so much more when they show losses
The reason why people say negative things when you lose is because yall didn't document your journey until you made it. So if you all would've shown when you was working that 9-5 and showing us the real you maybe now they wouldn't bring the negativity
I did actually work a full time software job and trade. Additionally, I did also create RUclips content at the time as well. Also, from experience, the reason most people won’t do that is because of how insane that work load actually was.
@ So true! It's some work because I'm doing that now 😂
I'm very skeptical of anyone who claims to trend line trade and nothing else. If she is profitable, she is doing something else. Probably knows macro and fundamental analysis well. Or her uncle who I think she said was an institutional trader gave her the vwaps and and exact MA ratios that the institutions take long/shorts on.
She just says it's just trend lines and nothing else to bait ignorant and lazy people into buying her trading course.
something like that is just surface level information, you gotta adapt the different things you like to your own and practice and journal and get stats to improve. Courses, books..... it's a general approach to everybody.
I would be skeptical if I hadn't backtested it. It actually makes sense why something so simple works. We only make money when we follow the trend. Draw a trend line & follow it.
@@searphhoneydoubt
It's actually rather interesting you bring this up. It's not out of the realm of belief that she makes money with trend lines. I do, but I do incorporate some fundamentals. You only need a slight edge and sound risk management to be profitable. This is why most any strategy can generate you profit if it has at least a slight edge and you execute 100%. I haven't seen a lot of her content but she seems to make a lot of money on platinum futures which really upon examination looks decent for trend line trading on the medium term. We also have to remember the law of large numbers and even over the course of 100 trades over a few years, you can put together an impressive cluster of wins but the true test is going through say a cluster of 10 to 15 loses. I'd say if she was trading the Qs or EUR/USD for example in the medium term, she'd have a bit more bumpy ride. And who knows, at anytime platinum's characteristics might change and her edge will disappear.
The main reason I don't put much into her system is that of the 2 or 3 videos I have watched she doesn't follow her own entry/exit criteria for trades. In fairness she's 100% transparent about this lack of discipline.
Man said "Vantage" 144 times 😭😭😭
Tune in tomorrow for 145
"Is it necessary to pay for trading education?"
What do you mean for trading education? Financical degree? Or some trading books? Or courses?
No, waste of money, plus there is free training on the internet everywhere on Google an RUclips
@@patrickgamboa7270 You will not have the same mindset getting your education for free. You will be more determined to gain your money you invested into trading education back from actually trading.
Tori is awesome!
@TraderNick-d Thanks very much Nick. Strange way to format your number but I guess traders have their quirks.
@@adammorra3813 That's a fake TraderNick account! RUclips has a really bad spam problem. - Nick's Editor
idk how i haven't seen nicktrades before when we trade the same way unreal to me that i've come across so many trading styles just to land on his channel so late
4:30 we’re going to go WHERE!?
Agree
she charges 2 grand for some 21 day program to teach people how to draw a trendline, come on dude i thought you were better than this supporting such b/s
Don’t buy it. Simple. Her time is valuable, like yours.
Lol
Of course she ‘agrees whole heartedly’ 😂😂
Exactly, but I know Nick and this girl aren't authentic.
Selling courses over 1k means you are "scamming" people. There are people out there with 30-100 dollar courses that can teach you way more useful stuff than trend lines.
I love Tori so much! Female traders letz go!!! 😈💁♀
you shouldnt share your trading profolia, but you have to prove to the masses you are trustworthy profitable trader, cause 80% of trading gurus are fake
Tori working over that gum.
Ahhh… I see what’s going on here. Nvm.
Y’all in it together 💀😂
Master clickbaiter, bro said confronting tori. You lose me 🤣
Thank you for watching
I don't watch either of these traders, but I've seen them on here. I'm more into short-form content because Ads be getting wild out here.
selling now on platinum which tori is always trading
check the chart
The ads in this video are bs way too many my god
Did you like them, we worked really hard on them!
i didn't like Tori at first, i thought she was fake. Seen a bit more from her recently and things actually add up. I think shes legit.
Actually she is super fake. She works for Apex Prop Firm and they have helped her blow up in exchange for her female profile as high profits trader all of a sudden. She is not telling us about the Prop Firm she uses to hedge bets and blow up accounts. She deletes anyone from the comments that even mentions her working for Apex
I have been watching her on and off for three years, she went from 20 100 grand year by changing her approach
@@brendonking5489 Tori is alright. Even though she doesn’t warn you about the hidden rules at Apex prop firm
Let’s gooo
2GOAT
Unks is my spirit animal 😅 non flashy
With paid education, what people forget is that you're paying for experience. If you have a great teacher who will guide you and help correct your mistakes before and after you make them, then that is worth every cent. Sure you can self learn, I did, but you will be paying the markets for your education while you fumble your way around. So the question is, who would you rather pay, the markets or someone to guide you?
Damm that is true !
this girl is attractive af ngl
@Tarwada_ bro its tori she is good
hi this is awesome
Can you collab withmambafx??😂
"Tori trades" is just a typical marketing product. Lots of marketing, very little trading
@@FuturesBrizio Yes indeed !
Didn't she quite literally in this interview say that she's a swing trader????
She swing trades and swing trades can go on for weeks or months especially being that she trades the 4h timeframe.
That amounts to not much time per week required and time to create content and sell courses. It’s called multiple streams of income. Let’s see your p&l statements.
@@notanymore9471multiple streams of income is the way to go.
Shes been doing this for 9 years. She's had her chart time and now sticks to 4h. What's the issue here?
nice video, but all the plugging of your ‘sponsor’ makes it unwatchable
Cmon Nick, you're better than this.
Unsubbed.
I miss you already
hi nick can we do fxalexg next
You wouldn’t wish it upon your friends and family? But perfect strangers no problem. 🚩 🚩🚩
People who trade profitably enough to teach something so incredibly hard as trading is basically impossible without them putting in a lot of their own effort.
in order to properly teach somebody trading takes a lot of time. and in order to properly trade takes a lot more than that. so courses is basically a scam unless you're prepared to get low-level "directed at everybody" advise, not a way to get rich.
its a lot better to find a mentor that is elite and getting them to help you. Directed more towards the specific trader. but that's not profitable. I know a few people that have taught others and made them so much better, but you gotta find the right people. Courses directed at the general public will be surface level kind of
Hi Nick, could you please review the 100 to a million series by fxalexg ?
❤❤❤❤❤
Hey Nick,nice Video.Can you please do a video with Rayner Teo?
Rayner has been known as a fraud. Its a waste of time
I don’t get how traders/investors say I’m a swing trader, or I use only the 4hr chart. What happens if you come across great scalp, or a great buy and hold, or a nice play off the hourly. Why do they limit themselves. Don’t get me wrong if your new, then yea maybe focus on one time one style but once it clicks and you understand l, ok it’s popping on the hourly, so it’s a hammer on the 4hr, and dojo on the daily, etc. not sure this is making sense but I have it in my head 😂 😂 I like these 2 cause their chill, theirs no BS talk it light hearted and good content. Plus they aren’t cussing all over the video. I can’t stand that, automatic click and unsubscribe 😂😂😂
I feel better of my self after watching this video, if professional traders, like you still making mistakes sometimes. Now I have realistic target for my profit that make may trading a lot better.
🎉✍️🔥
"you recommend friends or family to learn to trade"-she said NOOOO--her wealth came from teaching-haha not from trading
Paying Warren Buffet for an event is not the same as making videos and selling courses 😊 also the term content creator is too funny. Trying to make a title better than "I'm a youtuber" couple of tubes, tubing it, for you to watch. That's the reality.
Thanks for watching my tube
@TraderNick I subscribed yesterday. Don't take that comment the wrong way, happy youtubing 😀
she makes more money selling courses than trading
Even if that is true (I have no idea), would that take away from her broker statements?
@@TraderNick She made like 110k this year. She sells her accelerator for 2k. She needs to sell 50 to make the same amount. It is the influencer business not trading business.
Even if that is true (I have no idea), would that take away from her broker statements?
How can a person pay for "trading education" of a guru when the person doesn't know if the guru's system is a fit for them? It's like saying that you wear a sized 6 shoe but I'm going to sell you a size 5 or 8 sized shoe and say this will work for you.
How can I sell you a scalping course, if your personality is more comfortable with that of intraday or swing trading?
How can I sell you a stock course if really you are more into trading crypto, forex or futures or options? Get what I am saying?
If you spend several thousand dollars on a guru's course, you are going to try and force yourself to make that system work even though the system might not be compatible with your personality.
I say find out first what you are interested in trading, then research the styles of trading to see what you are comfortable with, read some books on technical analysis, if you have any questions you can fill in the blanks with videos on youtube, then come up with a strategy, paper trade the strategy and keep stats and review and if it works, go live. It's laughable to call some a "mentor" who's in their 20's and have been supposedly trading for only a few years.
How much money you make per year?
sorry.. come on guys, but that girl is kinda boring..:(
1:50 did y'all see that fidgeting with her hands while claiming to be a swing trader!?
its not that deep
Reach of hell
We found the body language expert everyone
@@StefanReich👍🏽😂
It means she loves day trading deep down