Self Shielded Cast Iron Welding Repair
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Self Shielded Cast Iron Welding Repair. In this episode we are going to compare the strength of new cast iron to the strength of cast iron that we repaired and welded using a mig welder wire feed welder and self shielded flux core wire. To keep the test results consistent we are repairing the cast iron using the "cold welding" repair method. No Preheat. See the results for yourself and make your own decision if you think this is an easy DIY do it yourself repair method that you can do at home. This is a detailed step by step guide on how I repaired this cast iron using self shielded wire.
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As much as anything, I was super impressed, how much punishment that bucket has taken over the last couple of episodes. It really has proven to be the unsung hero of the show.
No kidding right!!!!! WHERE ARE YOU TUPPERWARE, I NEED A SPONSORSHIP lol....crickets hahaha thanks Andy :)
@@BrandonLund and so they should, what better advertising.
Thanks Brandon 👍🏻
Thanks Eric!
Good explanation on heat differential and temp swings and how it effects the weld and or welded surface @brandon Lund
Thanks buddy! I hope you and your family are doing well during this covid! I heard the west coast got a spike in cases.
@@BrandonLund me and my family and kiddos are great brother thanks for asking hope you and yours are well also
We are good good buddy!👍
Thanks for sharing with us Brandon
Thanks buddy I appreciate you being a long time viewer!
I subscribed your channel just because you were not afraid to try it. Good job.
Thanks man I appreciate the support! ❤
Impressive strength there.
I know right! Crazy!
magnificent content Brandon Lund. I broke that thumbs up on your video. Always keep up the very good work.
Thanks man! Much appreciated!
Try these again after normalising after welding, that should be very interesting indeed! :)
I've probably tried everything there is when it comes to cast iron.
@@BrandonLund Put the results up here then please, your series is very welcomed. Times at temperatures, heat and cool rates; normalising vs a full anneal vs a stress relief using steel filler would be of particular interest..:):)
Hey Paul, I do my best to respond to everyone but it's almost a full time job. The cast iron repair playlist has so much information and testing and reuslts that it would literally take me hours to scan through and figure out everything I need to link to answer questions. I try to title the videos as best as possible but I also describe what i'm doing in the video description also. Best I can say is check out the playlist and hopefully you can find what your looking for. There is leterally hundreds of hours of cast iron repair information using all sorts of processes and filler metals. I will say that the more recent stuff with have comparisions with unbroken cast iron Vs repaired cast iron for a comparision.
@@BrandonLund Thanks for that. Where is this play list Brandon...? Can you link me to it..?
For sure :) enjoy! ruclips.net/p/PLfbf78fMz9VpweFv4IqUfrrNV6Vvro7Cd&si=gOV5S4AJl9ck2ir6
The tote is the winner again , good one Brandon, thanks TANK STAY SAFE !
Thanks man...where are you Rubbermaid?....crickets lol 😆 😂 🤣
Hard to believe but you doing it makes sense, nice video brother.
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
Good explanation, love the fan exhaust and remotes
Thanks man! Its been nice not having to get up every 5 minutes. Its been handy
Wow super job and I love the music u select!!!
Thanks! :)👍🙏😁
I'm trying to repair a swing down cast iron keal on a 50 year old sailboat unknown material and rust. Big torch to 6011 didn't work. Next try if flux mig because I have it... If that fails braze it.
Silicon bronze works real good too
Good video brandon
Thanks Antonio, I appreciate it!
Ok so I have a cheap titanium welder with 100% co2 and flux core 309 stainless wire and it welds fantastic I've wanted to try repairing a cast iron intake manifold that has severe rust pitting around a water port! This is a super rare poly 318 marine intake out of a early 60's cris craft engine
That’s awesome! I’ve used 309L a few times and my luck was not that good. My go to on rare parts is something with a high nickel content or even better a silicone bronze . I know lots of other people have had great luck too welding 309 to cast but i haven’t been that lucky.
Good stuff Brandon.
Thanks for posting. 👋👋
Thanks buddy and I hope your feeling well!
@@BrandonLund Feeling pretty good thanks Bran. 2 days until I can drive again, 😂😂, but 8 weeks before I can cart my welding gear around, 😡. Slow process.
Hang in there buddy!
Fukd up the bracket bolt hole on my engine block, trying to get a broken bolt out. Ended up welding a nut to the block 😬😬 hoping it doesn’t fail lol
You got this @Lopez Art good luck man! Let me know how you made out!
My gf dad asked me to weld repair a handle on his wood lathe. Would any type of weld or braze be strong enough to handle the centrifugal force?
I would suggest brazing but cast iron is a crap shoot depending on the mix
You can also anneal the weld/cast iron in ash, like from a campfire or wood stove. I personally would be interested to see what after a stick weld would do for overall strength of a repair (using a propane or map gas torch or a campfire to heat welded area to a very dull red, roughly 1k-1100 degrees F since those options are available to most if not all of your viewers.) food for thought
Thats a great idea. I have heard of this also. I would think that it would have a positive effect but I think we are going to have to try it out.
Can you try doing a cast iron tractor trans-case repair thats has crack with nickel rod.......
@Job38 Four I would love to, I just don't know anyone that has one locally
For being a 2500 dollar welder it better run like a dream lol
It sure does! It's the best welder I have ever used.
@@BrandonLund yeah it defiantly looks like a very nice welder, you get what you pay for.
Hi Brandon, I was wondering if you have ever repaired Cast Iron with a Stainless Steel welding rod? Out in the field in an emergency we used stainless flux covered rods and stick welded cast iron. Of course this was in the good old days when Health and Safety were not buzz words.
I have never really had good luck personally with stainless and cast but i know others have and i have even read some wps info about it. Ive always used tig though. You're the second person to mention success stick welding stainless rods so I guess im going to have to give it a try. Thanks for watching and sharing!
That is one nice machine! Seems that it is like the Lincoln 210MP, no provision for 0.30 flux core. I had to switch to 0.35 flux and ended up wit a ten pound spool of 0.30 flux core. If I find the 0.30 spool, I'll give it a try with your settings
Yah its a beast man! I absolutely love it. That 030 wire ran great doing the short tacks. Maybe dial it back just a little for stringers and it should be about perfect.
@@BrandonLund Thank you!
Good job
Thanks man!
I broke a drill press vice, i didn't have any brazing rod, so I used a mig welder with co2. I did heat the vice up to 400f and welded up, I did v it out first and drilled the ends of the crack.. I've cranked down on it even harder and it's still holding up
Thats awesome! The key to your success had a lot to do with your prep including the preheat. Did you end up using any sand or a blanket for cooling? Congratulations on your repair and thanks for sharing!
@@BrandonLund I just stuck it back into the oven, to let it cool down.
Thanks
Great Video 👌
Thank you 👍 and I appreciate all the time and effort you have put into your videos. I have referenced them quite frequently :) By far the most detailed on RUclips. Fronius should have you make their user guide instructional videos for them. 👍
Can you do a test using a oxy accedeling torch. And CONTRACTOR, COIL WIRE, ANNEALED BLACK, 16 GA . As welding wire. And see how much it takes to break.
I will see what i can do. thank you
👍you should try one with stainless rods,it can be done successfully, and you should watch your eyes chipping with no safety glasses on because depending on the brand of flux core some of it can pop slag off especially with rapid cooling/heating of cast. 👍
I've had good luck with stainless rods in the past. I think I'll actually incorporate a stainless repair into this. I always try to wear safety glasses but sometimes I forget im not wearing them which is usually when I realize after I get ANOTHER eye injury. I was lucky this time I didn't.
Now Brandon the last 147 lb steak I cooked in my cast iron pan was in my dreams. now the biggest was a 24 oz moose steak , quite good, but i have yet to cook a 147 lb moose steak, so if your welds are solid you should have no problem with a 10 oz beef steak in a repaired pan. Of course for our protection we say don't do it , but there is a lot of don't do this at home but we do anyway because we have faith in our work, and you have to learn some how on your own. now the do gooders, of this world have ruined it made people afraid to try something , less they be sued by somebody looking for money.
Spot on brother! There is a reason you cant buy a hot cup of coffee at McDonalds without the words "Caution Hot" on the coffee cup for the exact reason you point out.
What is the best method for grinding a boxed inside corner smooth.
What do you not heating up the pan before welding, big changes to the crack with the welding, cast iron must ber cooled slow in sand
All in the name of science. We test things and see how it responds for those "what if" times when something cant be done by the book. We will never know if we dont test it
Interesting. I've always used Tig with cast iron rods, (rods are pretty expensive) so this should be interesting. Always like thinking differently. Never used flux core for cast.
I'm with you on the 1/2" and pein. Takes more time but less chance of having to redo it.
Have done it on exhaust manifolds and engine blocks. Slow and steady
Cast Iron isn't overly pretty anytime🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dang. Ya gonna need a bigger boat...I mean bucket
Impressive
Thanks man. I have to admit I was quite shocked by the result!
@@BrandonLund So was I. Good job
Thanks man! 😁
Hey Brandon! it may be none of my business, but I'm not proud of your work. Rather of your safety! No safety glasses to hammer the weld just done. Excuse but you are like indomitable ! I love you anyway 😜 For the break point, I had to calculate according to the previous weld at 145lbs 😎 🍺🍺
You were spot on....on both parts! lol Cheers buddy! 😎
Nickel rods and preheat in you do it for a living I can get you in touch with a 60/40 wire dealing no pin holes after being machined
I have never had a nickel rod repair fail. Thats a proven filler. I find that pin holes have a lot to do with how clean the cast is and how much base metal melted as the filler was applied. Less base metal melting = less pin holes. Almost like brazing.
Inverter welders are a ton smoother then generator based welders
Most of my experience has been just that, with generator and transformer based welders. I have some experience with home workshop inverter welders but they dont compare at all to the Fronius. The incredibly smooth and crisp starts are like no other.
could you compare some 6013 from blue demon, vs other brands? I think it has more carbon in the flux, causing it to pop more but also enabling it to burst though a bit of rust. I believe the flux is also thinner than regular 6013, not sure.
I like that idea. I will reach out to them and see what i can do. Thanks for the suggestion!
Can cast iron be annealed back?
Unfortunately that is beyond my skillset.
Interesting.... Running down your list of welding techniques don't see what always heard was optimal way to fix cast iron: real, honest to God cast iron filler rod and an oxy/gas torch. No nickel, No steel, No bronze, No brass.... real cast iron. Rods are 1/4 inch thick (would be nice if they were half that thickness), kind of a pain in the posterior to use, expensive (about $50 for five 1 foot rods), but preheat piece around area you're working on with the torch, nice neutral flame, put a little powdered flux on it, and fusion weld to your little heart''s content! I wasn't welding pans. Was several broken pieces of cast iron decoration panel inserts for a headboard and footboard for a bed, branches and oak leaves, the broken spots in branches were about a half inch thick. Some dingbat had fixed them badly with a MIG before I got to it and the spots were dead cold, heavily globbed up, and had no penetration whatsoever. And broken clean through in the same spots with weld scab all over both sides of the breaks. Embarrassingly ugly welds. Had to grind off every speck of steel before I started, and beveled the ends a little. Was even able to control the melt through the whole piece to the extent I didn't have to grind after. Looked pretty much like the original pieces. If you didn't know where to look, you probably wouldn't notice the repairs. Used about 8 inches of one rod to fix 7 broken spots on 3 panels. Lost contact with the person who gave them to me; they were kicked, dropped, stepped on, and scuffed around the floor of my shop after I fixed them for two years and no more breaks, new or old.
I was wondering what happened to Rumpelstiltskin from Shrek.
Cute
how many times can you show a cast iron pan.
I'm guessing at least another 4 episodes lol
i was thinking it will brock with 150 lbs
Pretty close!
“fLuX CoRe iS fOr LaZy pEoplE wHo DoNt WaNt tO LeArN tO dO rEaL WelDiNg. flUx cOrE sUcKs” - Internet Keyboard Warriors
I guess we know who hasn't been on a jobsite before...lol flux core is life lol 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks brother...they just don't know. 👍
Brandon Lund At least a shipyard! That’s apparently all done in flux core!
Right on brother!
How much money do you make
Not enough 😉
@@BrandonLund what do you do for work? Curious why you’re up so late.
Well I was over in my guess at 45 kg.
Close though!
my guess wass 50 kg
Very close!