MORE WELDING AND FABRICATION VIDEOS HERE:ruclips.net/p/PLfbf78fMz9Vol0uX2-GNc6mLi75zpqb5f LEARN HOW TO WELD VIDEOS HERE:ruclips.net/video/ADa1I319GJ0/видео.html This video is for demonstration purposes only using a known cast iron material. Do not attempt to repair cast iron pans. If the weld fails there is a high risk of bodily injury, death or fire from hot grease. I misspoke when I said the moisture is in the metal. The moisture is a byproduct of combustion.
Well it worked better than I thought . I welded come cast before with ni rod . I had hell and I swapped polarity and it helped . . Yea weld about a inch and peen it till cool . I used a chipping hammer but a needed gun might have worked well. Thanks for the video
If you ever run into it again try silicon bronze. I did this in my cast iron repair series and was blown away how easy it (MIG) welded and even better how strong it was. Best repair to date by far
I gotta say that I'm really impressed with your patience of the nay sayers! This episode of using the flux cored wire hit close to home because years ago all I had was a 110v Lincoln and the family ski boat froze over winter due to my lack of enthusiasm winterizing it. When my wife and I brought it out for the 1st startup, we had a bad water leak under the intake of the inline Chevy 6 cylinder. Pulled the intake and found a crack almost the entire length of the engine 1/2" below he deck surface. I called a friend who had recently retired from the local metal manufacturing plant and explained what I had. He told me to use the .030 steel wire, open the argon and oxygen mix all the way and run my current as hot as I could. He also said heat my starting point to about 600° then with the wire form a puddle the size of a dime and continue until the crack was filled in. I thought there was no way it'd work because I was taught that only nickel was the cure! That was 1996, I still own the boat and there has never been one single drop of water from that crack. To this day I use the wire on most cast jobs with 100% weld. I couldn't figure out how only heating the starting starting point was needed. After years of thinking on it I can only assume the dime sized puddle allows the heat generated to flow forward the weld at the correct temp and speed. I believe him and should never have questioned him, I mean he'd worked all his life and retired from working with cast iron that he knew what he was talking about. Have a great day!
Omg.. When he started going upward his vertical I almost died...😂😂 I really like this guy.. But man, that was hard to watch.. I'd like to see how much peroicty is in those beads..
@@garrettchapman8170 LOL You got some bad information bud. Most code work calls for vertical up as the industry standard. Vertical down is generally frowned upon unless it's sheet metal.
Sucks when you make a smart ass comment but in reality you just made yourself look like the opposite of a smart ass. Cool video bro answered my question about it being possible to weld iron with a wire feed
I’ve been welding for 48yrs. you are absolutely right in the way your going about welding items that unprofessional welders may not know because they haven’t been thru many many different problems that need to be repaired and cannot wait for the school instructors methods. their teachings are not OJT welding. They are just teaching by a single rule book. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT!
Thank you for doing this! For 15 years, I've been thinking about cutting the handle off a thrift store skillet and flipping it around so I can use it on my Big Green Egg. Now that I have a multi-process welder, I'm making all these dreams happen. This was a great piece of research. I always put in an exhaustive amount of research before any project. My Dad taught me, "we all learn from mistakes; it's cheapest to learn from others' mistakes". (We grew up in Appalachia, where "cheap" is the highest virtue. Also, cheap means maximum value. Investments that fail or cause injury are NOT cheap.) It's hard to do "research" when everyone does it the same way. I'm glad you are here doing this. Thank you, Brother.
spot on, i say. Thinking 'outside' the box, is most times, required, for cheapskates like most of us, on here. Creativity, expands with a bigger picture of ' life' within this world. Make use of nearly everything. in and around the garage/shop.
Thats why the weld is stronger than the metal you are welding to if you have done it right. That applies to all processes and all metals. Not just cast iron.
I remember as a farm kid in the 60’s and early 70,s we only had an AC stick welder. It was amazing how many things we welded that way “that couldn’t be done.” It really taught me that if for instance 91lbs of force was way more than the part was subjected to in its normal use then that was a fine way to weld it! They sometimes weren’t as pretty but I also learned prep and fit up made a huge difference.
Absolutely. Sometimes that "cant be done attitude" has you beat before even trying. I say try it and see. It cant be more broke than it is already. It can only get better.
I've seen aluminum bonded to steel with a stick welder. I couldn't say whether it was truly welded or not but it was able to support ~100lb from two three inch ears on the side of a moving vehicle.
@@corinelson7837 I welded a titanium exhaust tube to a mild steel one on my dirt bike with a $200 flux core welder been on there for a few years and so far its good........ I didn't realize it was titanium when I welded it I thought it was stainless! I always thought you had to weld titanium in a gas chamber due to it catching fire I must not have got it hot enough lol.
@@randyhaglund7557 titanium sugars if you weld it in open air. you get yellow fluffy stuff that precipitates around the weld. magnesium is the one that can catch fire {volkswagen cases}
AC is great given the right rods. If more people read what each rod is designed for and bought a few to try they'd be much more effective. Industrial AC stick machines go cheap and make serious power. I bought a Hobart T-400 for the cables and kept it for the arc quality because that and it's higher OCV make it a joy to use.
I have always been of the mindset that I will fix it myself rather than pay to have it fixed. Saved thousands of dollars over the years. Welding has always been my downfall. I recently bought a POS wire welder to fix my lawn tractor that a certified welder wanted 150 to start and extra for wire/sticks used. I got this POS welder offline for 77 dollars and after watching videos like yours I managed to repair my tractor and get back to mowing the lawn. I for one thank folks like you that offer up free knowledge.
You made my day brother! THIS is exactly why I do what I do. I love seeing people repair their stuff rather than tossing it out and buying new. Keep at it man, if your anything like most of us that got the "welding bug", your going to find all kinds of uses for that welder. Nice job fixing the mover and saving a pile of cash and thanks for the great comment!
Just for conversation sake if you were repairing a skillet this way I would consider it a win. This was an inexpensive repair and I have made some big meals but I can't load 90lbs of pork chops into a skillet!
😂 I was actually surprised that it held that much weight. I don't think my stove burner would even hold 90 pounds LOL. Oh and thanks for the Pork Chop reference!...I'm starving now and I still have an hour until break LOL Cheers brother!
@@BrandonLund This series has been very educational. Nickel rod works great but that stuff is 1$ per welding rod around here. Some times the parts being repaired just don't justify that cost of repair. Please pay no mind to the naysayers this is very good real life work. I have used 7018 many times and just said either it works or it don't because we are not spending a fortune on this piece.
I what's going to say the same thing... How much do bacon and eggs weigh anyway? I also wonder if Welding it on both sides would've made a difference...
@@drickard67 I think welding it on both sides probably would add some strength. I should have done a close up on the non welded side. The weld really doesnt penetrate so I think doing both sides probably would add strength.
True, but we should also consider the carrying capacity of a panhandle if the pan is accidentally dropped and falls to the ground. Moving objects gain mass as they pick up speed. A falling pan that gains more than half of its weight while falling might gain enough accumulated mass to loosen, weaken, or eventually break the weld. This takes nothing away from the repair that was successful, but it does tell us about the important limitations of repairs that we make when being used in real-world applications. This may seem trivial at first but in actuality, it's a very useful and practical evaluation tool.
I know this is about three years ago but your doing just fine and correctly for home or small shop repair. I'm a certified MIG, TIG, ARC, OXY/ACC, Plazma Arc welding in 9 metal groups and have been certified since 1995. Also hold an Aeronautical, Heavy Equipment, & shipboard certifications. So I've been around the block and what your doing sir for a quick home/small shop repair on cast steel is right on. Aluminum cast is a bit more complicated but I'm sure you've been able to figure that out. Anyway thanks for posting as I'm sure it will help many home & small shop repair individuals.
Thank you so much! I appreciate your support and kind words. Maybe some of the negative Nancy's will read your well articulated comment and not get so uptight.
Thank you so much for this. I've never welded before and I checked out the best way for newbies to start. Resoundingly, the answer came back Flux Core/MIG welding. I've watched 6 or 7 vids online, saying they're for beginners, but then baffle us with terms and information only experienced welders would know!? This is the first and best vid I've watched where, not only does Brandon show us how to set the machine up, but also offers a few insider 'easy to understand' tips that will help us in future endeavours. I know someone is likely to say, "Well, it's not MIG welding, it's Flux Core welding!" Sure. OK. But have you ever tried Flux core Welding without using a MIG welder 🙄🤦🏻♂️. Brandon, thank you. You've made a difference in my pursuit of....joining one piece of metal to another! Cheers 😉👍🏻.
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Thats my goal here in the channel. To expose new welders to different things and hopefully in a way that is entertaining and easy to understand. Thanks again for your support and kind words!
I love guys who do this. So many times I hear that "it can't be done", "you can't mig weld cast", you can't weld stainless with pure argon" etc. Turns out you can do all kinds o things at home. They may not meet lawsuit criteria or some safety factor that a metallurgy engineer established, but for most practical purposes there are tons of 'non-standard' things you can do that work perfectly well for home or emergency use. Thank you very much for doing these videos
@Gene Autry Over the years I've learned to use the word 'can't a lot less. If I said the same thing then I would not have the knowledge that it CAN be done.
Woo-Hoo! I did it and was able to repair one retraction eye on a heavy notcher used to cut 16 ga. steel. This is a heavy *Costly* tool, big hunk of stuff I can't lift by myself. I preheated, welded, and insulated it as it cooled. As the old guy said: "Grinders and paint make me the welder I ain't." But in the end it is pretty damned good! Thank you Brandon! This was a life saver.
Brandon, you not only come up with “other way’s” of doing things, but your explanation’s, demonstration’s, and TESTING your work are a credit to your craft! I’m new to welding, and I have a large cast iron cauldron with a long crack in it. I feel confident I can weld it up myself, let it cool, and grind it back down, hopefully, never to crack again. The wall thickness is maybe HALF of what a cast iron skillet is, so, I hope I can repair it without destroying it in the process. THANK YOU!!
Thats why the weld is stronger than the metal you are welding to if you have done it right. That applies to all processes and all metals. Not just cast iron.
I appreciate the video ,most people don’t understand that for decades Briggs and Stratton used a pot metal for their blocks, it wasn’t as strong as billet aluminum or cast-iron, but it worked for the purpose of making a lawnmower engine ,it’s the application is what’s important to understand I worked for a company that would make molds out of Kurt site and as long as you were making thousands of parts it was a great system but because the molds were for fiberglass parts body parts ,a fiberglass mold was cheaper especially for only a few hundred parts. so it is the application and what is the cost-effective method trying to make the strongest thing in the world is not necessarily what you need to do each time .getting that through the heads of some people is rather difficult so what works on each kind of repair I find very informative and appreciate what you’re doing ,the people that complain will complain no matter what because they can’t or don’t do these things themselves .and do not consider all of the factors involved so thank again for the video.
Thank you so much. You get it. Not everyone does as you pointed out. I watch a channel called Pakastani Truckers. Those guys repurpose and get every bit of life out of something. It may not always be the best but there is some really good creativity and inginuity that comes out of being poor. Its one of the reasons i take such good care of my stuff
I've been welding for many yrs ,I still like to experiment ,just like this ,you learn many things about what works and what don't ,at one time you had only gas,stick and brazing ,you learned to do a lot of stuff with what you had. welding today has become so hi tech .I cant keep up .don,t apologize for the haters ,you're doing good.
Larry Driemel thanks Larry I appreciate your support! It’s good to have an open mind. It’s what keeps it interesting. It might not work every time but it’s just another tool in the tool box.
I have repaired cast several ways. This is about as easy as it gets. Great job!!!!! Damn good repair. I bet my bacon cooking would never break your repair. Can’t believe others would complain about your technique or instruction. I find that funny. I bet the ones that criticize are amateurs. Thank you for sharing I am always looking for an edge
I bought my 1993 f150 for $400 because the engine had a cracked block between to freeze plugs. I repaired it with a flux core wire cracker box welder. that was 3 years ago and she's still my daily driver with 379,392 miles on the same cracked engine. I used a benzo torch for the heating and a tiny air hammer to do the peening.
I heated a cracked small block Chevrolet block and had a shop vac pulling a vacuum on the cooling system while running JB Weld down into the crack just to see what would happen. It was a free boat engine that was given to me and it ended up in a shop truck. Damn thing lasted over a year before the JB Weld turned loose.
That is an excellent mig welder. I regret selling the one I had. It has great range, from sheet metal to 3/8" it is smooth!! And reliable. Thank you for this video.
Thanks Rolando! It is a very smooth and dependable welder. Because it's transformer based you can find some pretty good deals on used models on Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist. Thanks for your support brother!
I think flux core Mig was a great way to repair this little skillet! If anyone disagrees they are just being argumentative for no real real reason. Personally, I learned a lot watching this video, thank you for posting it!
I totally did this once when my mom dropped my skillet. I didn't use preheat or Bevel the edges. I just cleaned and welded it and it still seems to be holding well
I like this! As a welder that specializes in SS GTAW, I have repaired backhoe hydraulic rams to T50 buckets using SMAW and FCAW and there are weld procedures, pre heats, inner pass temps for each structural steel when safety is required, but I really like the experiments. Nothing gains a better understanding than a failure. For this pan, you'll never cook eggs or a steak more than 100lbs so if Self-shielded flux works, it works! A metallurgy course, temp crayons or thermal gun is very useful in these types of situations. Keep up the good work! 👍
I’ve used several fire bricks underneath and around the edges and acetylene to preheat the material. Then nirod for the weld repair, added more fire bricks on top and let it cool slowly to prevent cracking. Good job.
Love the vid! By no means am i a pro. Several years ago I had to do small hand rail welding project, little did I realize that 1 of the 2 parts was cast. At first it kept cracking my tacks, after it got warm enough it started to stick together. It took a while of weld a lil grind a lil, but it turned out looking decent and still holding to this day with my flux core machine. Nice to hear that some people still embrace alternative methods.
This was great to see, brazing is the one most common to me, along with nickel rods, or 309 stainless rod. Peining seems to be the best stress relief, but I see where people don't use that either. I like your presentation and thank you for something I wouldn't have tried.
So many people think they know the best way to do anything most people really have no idea what's possible. I like that someone spends the time to show what can be done even if you don't all the right equipment. Nice thanks
You hit the nail on the head. How many say this doesn't work. The ones that "heard" it doesn't work. I'm not the only one that knows this works according to the comments. If you don't try you will never know
Thanks for the video. I am one of those guys that only has Flux Core wire welder. I am also new to welding, but I knew cast iron welding wasn't as simple as other things I have welded. My sister-in-law has a crack in her cast iron pan and this comes in real handy.
I encourage you to try other methods of welding. I think you will find out that flux core, IMHO, is the least user friendly than all the other methods. Especially if you are welding sheet metal.
Great channel! You're doing what others wonder about and that's a good thing! I grew up poor and never had the right tools for any job, everything was jury-rigged as they say, everything was 90% figuring out how, and 10% cost because we didn't have the money to just call up an expert to come running. These days I'm fortunate to be able to pay others do work, but I still think in terms of what can "I" do myself and your videos bring that out! You're not trying to sell the latest brazing rod and call it "welding" you just show what can be done equipment on hand. Flux Core welders are dirt cheap and probably the easiest way to weld and certainly less expensive than a gas setup and all the crap that goes with that!
@Randall Scott-Key you hit the nail on the head perfectly! I couldn't have said my intent to the channel any better than this! 🙏 I grew up EXACTLY how you described and it's why I make these videos. Nothing was ever what I needed. I had to figure out how to get it done with what I had on hand and that usually wasn't much. I chuckled when you said you are at that point in life where you can pay people to do certain things but still wonder about doing it yourself. That is a spot on statement. I'm at that same point in life myself and it feels good reflecting back from where we've come. It's why I give back to our community. I remember what its like to struggle.
I welded a cast-iron crank handle on a Chinese drill press that my dad broke when he tipped it over. I ground a groove on the broken parts, then decided to tack it together while waiting for my dad to braze it back together. Using my mig welder with ER70S-7 wire with 25-75 Argon gas, I used a lower than normal heat setting, and tacked it on both edges. It went so well, that I decided to make a core pass. That welded so nice, I decided to make another, then another, and another, and eventually filled it all the way with the welder. It welded amazingly well and so easily, that later I welded a HUGE crack (1/4"+) in a Ford 460 exhaust manifold for my neighbor that still wasn't leaking when he sold the truck 5-7 years later.
That works! I'm no pro welder and have a 110 flux lincoln welder and it does great! I've done car ports, deer stands, deer feeders, trailer supports etc. Strong and durable.
Good video. I’ve been welding cast iron skillets, cast iron vises, ductile iron vises, engine blocks, and other cast iron engine parts for two decades using fluxcore mig or 7018. Things like exhaust manifolds with dirty carbon exhaust needs more preheat to bake out the impurities. SS309 rod also works very well for cast repairs. It was designed to weld ss to mild steel and has a lot of chromium in it that is soft allows flex as the weld cools if post heat is not available. (Such as engine blocks in vehicles). Lastly, watch using plastic containers. I’ve melted a few. Lol
Brett Dalton sometimes haha only if it was Martensitic SS then preheat and postheat would be required. Wouldn’t want Austenitic SS to go over 600 Fahrenheit or else Carbide precipitation would happen lol
Great video. My Dad was a welder. But he only had the old school welding equipment. He could weld anything. He would have been excited to see all these videos.
I spent 20yrs as a coded welder using most weld systems Did a lot of pipelines with Lincon 211 flux core. This guy did a reasonably good job. Any comments about vertical up versus vertical down are probably from inexperienced guys. On a pipe line the procedure of choice is vertical up root run and vertical down for the fill and Cap. This video is very good.
Ping it a bunch while hot. Keep heat on it. Sometimes a pneumatic chisel or needle scaler works for pinging. Slowly cool it down. Use an oven if you need to, start at 500 degrees and start lowering it every 15 minutes by 20 degrees. This works with 7018. Pre heat and post heat is the most important, heat to about where a magnet dont want to stick.
@@BrandonLund Been doing since the late 80's. Cannot stress enough of the importance of pre heat and POST HEAT. The whole part if possible. Those Harbor Freight weed burners are you best friend. The magnet trick will work every time.
@@chuckmiller5763 i do repairs on cast iron with 7018 even at cold (no preheat) using a 10% thinned than the rod copper wire surrounding the rod and weld it onis quite tricky but helps the overall ressistance on pulling and hot-cold transitions,usually i preffer 7018 rod with copper wire wrapping the rod (on thin metal i also preheat),on cast iron over 1 inch i don't preheat unless is a piece that i can handle regarding the overall weight,but my most preferrable is a stainless rod,but when i don't have stainless rods on hand,i use 7018 and works GREAT ! Yet the ideea with flux core is nice to see it in action !!!
90 pounds isn't strong enough for the way I cook. I throw the whole damn cow in the skillet. Gotta do better, lol. I'm just kidding, thanks for taking the time to do this series. It truly does help us that don't know everything.
Very interesting! I'm a beginner who is going to MIG weld some metal chairs that have worn screws for over 6 years. Thanks for taking the time to share.
With light duty flux core wire/stick welders now priced very affordable for home owners, small projects, deco items, these demos are 'extremely valuable. Thank You Brandon ;]
Your weld it was spot on the metal was weak have never seen a pork chop that big. your logical way of doing things makes it easier to understand , has helped me fix a broken cast iron band saw trunnion so it works for me many thanks.
Thanks 👍 I love hearing success stories like this! I appreciate your support and sharing with us. I love helping people so it makes me feel good knowing I helped.
If you have only a Stick Welder use a Stainless Steel rod if you have no rods for cast iron. Or Braze it with Oxy Acetylene, if you have it. The Braze will well stand the heat of a cookstove. Brazed repaired exhaust manifolds stand up to the heat after all.
Shhhhhhh.... there are people on here that say it cant be done lol. Good information. Thanks! It must be some pretty good size wire. What size wire do you run .045?
@@BrandonLund It depends. "Cast" is a broad term. You can't weld white iron but you can very easily weld nodular iron, cast steel, cast stainless or almost any non ferrous casting.
I gotta try this but I'm worried what's going to happen when my wife comes asking where the skillet is. Enjoyed your everyday yet intelligent approach.
I wouldn’t worry about the ones who are saying this is stupid this video actually helped me cause all I have is a flux core welder and I need to repair my cast vise this video showed me I can fix it and how to fix it
Great video thank you so much . Cracked my favorite pan tonight and I happened to have a flux core mig . I was so happy to find this channel. Again much appreciated from Australia 🏆
braze it.? i never heard of a repair of cast with anything other then brazing. back in the day we braz cast iron massyfergesen frontend ( a 2 foot half bowl shape about 2+ inchs thick. )and it worked! A lot of stress on that piece holding front of tractor pounding down etc.never heard of a failure. Took long time to heat that piece 5 hours+, and 12 hours to cool it. also used bolts to hold the it together. removed them and filled that part of crack.
Brazing is probably the safest and most trusted method in my experience but for those without the proper conventional equipment, I wanted to demonstrate several different processes and then using a destructive process as a form of comparison.
Hey man I took a crazy adventure this weekend my shifter fork on my truck went out... No job right now so I welded it up enough to get me by for a week or 2 till the part gets in do u think it will last took my time. But I got it
Brazing isn’t as strong as welding. Sometimes, with a crack in a big casting, brazing is fine, but usually, for a thinner part that needs strength, welding is better.
@@melgrosssorry it took so long to respond. But. My shifter fork is like a halfmoon hugged around my sincros.... Remember it's a trans really long and narrow. I just wanted to know if I beveled it to build a complete buildup.... To almost oe specs would it hold... LoL I made it work temporally buy drilling 2 holes and putting regular steel in the holes. Then I lightly tack welded keeping almost room tempature cause steel and cast expand different metals. I almost have it close to stock but It's a patch for now so did i do ok or am I doomed. I.e. I kept it co cool my finger were less than an inch away from a thin piece of the fork and after welding I could hold the part less than an inch away from my welding is that ok
Phill Black it’s hard to assume without seeing it, but it all depends on the load. Welding can be stronger than the original metal, if it’s done correctly. Don’t grind it down, leave it as welded, because it’ll be stronger.
Nice going Brandon, giving new ideas is always good, it is how knowledge progresses. I have never stopped being open minded or looking at things from outside of the box. Never allow others who think they are superior to stop you from being inventive, if you think you have a new idea and it works, use it if you can, it may become the preferred method even if it is unorthodox or not the norm. Cast iron is not difficult if you have the knowledge of how past failures taught you the methods that work for you today. There are machines out there that stilĺ work that I fixed welding cast to steel 45 years ago with methods that were called impossible and almost cost me my job, and the people who would have condemned my work if they could have are now long gone, those machines outlived them. Hats off and regards. J.
Thanks John for the great comment. It sounds like we have a lot in common. I've always been inquisitive and if told something won't work I have always had a genuine curiosity of why. My curiosity with welding cast iron started 25 plus years ago. In short I broke a part that couldn't be replaced. It was obsolete. I was told the item was "priceless". It was about the size of a pack of cigarettes. I was told it couldn't be welded or repaired. I brought it to several welding shops and they all said it was impossible and they wouldn't touch it. Back then we didn't have internet to research. I ended up used brazing rod to repair it. To my knowledge its still in service to this day. Most of my knowledge comes from within wanting to know more. From.that point forward I quickly realized that cast iron was a voodoo material to some. I figured if I can do (out of necessity) what others say can't be done, why not test some other methods. Surprisingly a lot of them are decent repairs. 👌 thanks for your support man! 👍
I think it's a awesome job in showing the people that are not aware of these people who need to be aware of welding thing's.Thanks for you doing it your way!
@@tubbz691 Yea nothing wrong with it. I had a natural gas with compressed air torch. It was a freaking monster. The compressed air created a venturi effect on the gas line and actually pulled a vacuum on it to draw extra gas out.
Thank you for the push. I needed to weld a bronze part from an old Russwin morticed lock set. It had worn from 80 years of service. All I have is a flux core welder so after your video I gave it a go. It worked and now my house has its front door lock functioning at 100%.
I love it! Your story is why I love doing these videos. A lot of time people are told "it wont work" until someone comes along and tries and it does. Congratulations on getting it all beck together!
Awesome. Unlike some of the haters i can read the title description and love your common sense approach to using what you have on hand to get the job done. Keep up the great work on informing those that would learn.
@@BrandonLund I can appreciate the effort you put in to showing the effect of using alternate methods. It's better to know why things do and don't work, and at what level. It puts to rest a lot of urban legend.
These videos are awesome. I'm not the greatest welder by any means, but I can and do weld almost daily and I've learned things on all the videos I've watched thus far. Thank you.
Hey Jeff I appreciate your support! If I can save some people a little bit of money instead of having to buy new I think that's a win for everyone. Some people see it differently though lol.
I fixed a cast iron stove top and was told the same way you did it.In the end I was happy with the final outcome.The process does not put the cast item back to new but it will give a few more years use from it
Really, really good analytical approach; testing like this is exactly how industries like nuclear and aerospace developed their specs. Test, measure, and test again. Good work, sir!
I have an older version of the same welder. Absolutely no regrets! It’s amazing what can be done with some thought, patience, and ingenuity. I like to make every effort to overcome a need without blowing a bunch of money on a new machine for a single little job. I like the way you roll. Thanks for the video. Never considered welding cast iron with it. Now I have to go try it out for myself. 👍
Thank you for doing this video. Just as you explained, not all of us out here have gas fed systems or can even afford them or an expensive welder. Also not all of us live in the US where everything is cheap and affordable. Where I live, most products and or equipment is 10- 30 times more than the average US $ cost due to foreign exchange, duty import taxes and ridiculously high retail markups by greedy merchants. So when you idiots want to give this guy flack for doing videos like this to help the poor or less equipped man or woman, think before you type or just keep your damn opinions to yourself if you have nothing positive to say.
Flux core self shield is extremely common in industry. No real welder would bash it because they know it is essential to high production welding outdoors. Anyone hating on it is simply not educated on the subject.
Thanks buddy...I look at it this way...there are people on this earth that could win the lottery but still complain about having to pay taxes on the money. You can't please everyone lol 👍
Check out my cast iron playlist. Ive tested tons of processes including bare wire, flux core, tig and stick with different fillers ruclips.net/p/PLfbf78fMz9VpweFv4IqUfrrNV6Vvro7Cd
@@BrandonLund thank you so much man. Just to let you know I had a project that was cast iron and a part had broken off. I used your process and it worked amazingly. Thank you so much. Do you have Instagram? So I can tag you in it when I've finished.
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It's not the weight of the food that I'm worried about. It would be if the pan fell which would increase the weight of the pan and its contents causing the pan to gain mass as it quickly falls to the floor. I don't know the calculations, but even an object falling which accumulates, let's say, a mass of 45 lbs by the time it hits the ground might be enough to loosen/weaken the welds enough so that they knew carrying limit of the repaired handle is less than half of the 90lbs you started with.
dude.... its an awesome video. I have a flux core mig welder..... I have a us$200 cast iron pan.. I broke the handle off..my fave pan. I never thought I could weld it.. but.. watching your vid.. gonna give it a go.. nothing lost.. since its buggered now..
Thanks man but please just be careful...i dont reccomend fixing cast iron pans just in case the weld should ever break it could burn down your house with hot greese or worse, burn someone.
don't worry bud, you're not alone. I always going against the traditional welding rules and it work really well, even better imo. keep doing what we love to. experimenting is fun. I learn new skill everyday
Been a welder for 42 yrs. But impressive. Ive done a lot of cast iron repairs. Your whole aproch is good with the preheating and cooling. And ni rod is the best. But i would have never have tried flux cor for that but it was fairly successful. I worked at NASA for 24 yrs as a welder. The milspec gov. Catalog listed 7018 as rod for welding cast iron. Never really tryed it but always found that description interesting
Oddly enough I have tried 7018 and although many people have told me they have had good luck, I have not. The one repair that I have found to date that is just about as strong as the cast iron before its broken is mig welding with silicon bronze. It welds like butter and it's super strong
People on the internet will always get angry about something regardless, now as I understand when you weld any kind of metal the weld is stronger than the actual material and as far as the test goes weld seem to hold very well, good stuff sir.
Thanks man...I appreciate your support. yah, haters are everywhere. As you mentioned, the tensile strength of the weld metal is typically greater than the base material which is why a proper weld will fail outside the weldment.
Good for you for goin outside the box a little. it doesn't matter what haters think / say. thanks for showing us people that don't know EVERYTHING how to get around other so called conventional ways of doing things. right on brother.
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I misspoke when I said the moisture is in the metal. The moisture is a byproduct of combustion.
Not a good weld
@@williamcreech5266 how so?
Well it worked better than I thought . I welded come cast before with ni rod . I had hell and I swapped polarity and it helped . . Yea weld about a inch and peen it till cool . I used a chipping hammer but a needed gun might have worked well. Thanks for the video
If you ever run into it again try silicon bronze. I did this in my cast iron repair series and was blown away how easy it (MIG) welded and even better how strong it was. Best repair to date by far
I've had some luck welding thick castings by heating up to dull cherry red in a wood fire and returning to the wood fire till the next day. used 7018
I gotta say that I'm really impressed with your patience of the nay sayers! This episode of using the flux cored wire hit close to home because years ago all I had was a 110v Lincoln and the family ski boat froze over winter due to my lack of enthusiasm winterizing it. When my wife and I brought it out for the 1st startup, we had a bad water leak under the intake of the inline Chevy 6 cylinder. Pulled the intake and found a crack almost the entire length of the engine 1/2" below he deck surface. I called a friend who had recently retired from the local metal manufacturing plant and explained what I had. He told me to use the .030 steel wire, open the argon and oxygen mix all the way and run my current as hot as I could. He also said heat my starting point to about 600° then with the wire form a puddle the size of a dime and continue until the crack was filled in. I thought there was no way it'd work because I was taught that only nickel was the cure! That was 1996, I still own the boat and there has never been one single drop of water from that crack. To this day I use the wire on most cast jobs with 100% weld. I couldn't figure out how only heating the starting starting point was needed. After years of thinking on it I can only assume the dime sized puddle allows the heat generated to flow forward the weld at the correct temp and speed. I believe him and should never have questioned him, I mean he'd worked all his life and retired from working with cast iron that he knew what he was talking about. Have a great day!
For those that know everything, please tolerate those of us that don't. Good video and good series. Thank you.
Omg.. When he started going upward his vertical I almost died...😂😂 I really like this guy.. But man, that was hard to watch.. I'd like to see how much peroicty is in those beads..
@@garrettchapman8170 LOL You got some bad information bud. Most code work calls for vertical up as the industry standard. Vertical down is generally frowned upon unless it's sheet metal.
@@sswcustomsewing4276 vertical down is only for hardwire, and mainly sheet metal.
Sucks when you make a smart ass comment but in reality you just made yourself look like the opposite of a smart ass. Cool video bro answered my question about it being possible to weld iron with a wire feed
I'm one of those who know everything.
I knew you was going to write this great comment.
I’ve been welding for 48yrs. you are absolutely right in the way your going about welding items that unprofessional welders may not know because they haven’t been thru many many different problems that need to be repaired and cannot wait for the school instructors methods. their teachings are not OJT welding. They are just teaching by a single rule book. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT!
Spot on Nick! THANK YOU! 🙏👍😁
Thank you for doing this! For 15 years, I've been thinking about cutting the handle off a thrift store skillet and flipping it around so I can use it on my Big Green Egg. Now that I have a multi-process welder, I'm making all these dreams happen. This was a great piece of research. I always put in an exhaustive amount of research before any project. My Dad taught me, "we all learn from mistakes; it's cheapest to learn from others' mistakes". (We grew up in Appalachia, where "cheap" is the highest virtue. Also, cheap means maximum value. Investments that fail or cause injury are NOT cheap.) It's hard to do "research" when everyone does it the same way. I'm glad you are here doing this. Thank you, Brother.
Thanks Bruno! I appreciate your support! 🤗
We don't talk about Bruno...
spot on, i say. Thinking 'outside' the box, is most times, required, for cheapskates like most of us, on here. Creativity, expands with a bigger picture of ' life' within this world. Make use of nearly everything. in and around the garage/shop.
And that metal fatigue will sneak up on you when least expected. Without quotation marks.
Thats why the weld is stronger than the metal you are welding to if you have done it right. That applies to all processes and all metals. Not just cast iron.
I remember as a farm kid in the 60’s and early 70,s we only had an AC stick welder. It was amazing how many things we welded that way “that couldn’t be done.” It really taught me that if for instance 91lbs of force was way more than the part was subjected to in its normal use then that was a fine way to weld it! They sometimes weren’t as pretty but I also learned prep and fit up made a huge difference.
Absolutely. Sometimes that "cant be done attitude" has you beat before even trying. I say try it and see. It cant be more broke than it is already. It can only get better.
I've seen aluminum bonded to steel with a stick welder. I couldn't say whether it was truly welded or not but it was able to support ~100lb from two three inch ears on the side of a moving vehicle.
@@corinelson7837 I welded a titanium exhaust tube to a mild steel one on my dirt bike with a $200 flux core welder been on there for a few years and so far its good........
I didn't realize it was titanium when I welded it I thought it was stainless!
I always thought you had to weld titanium in a gas chamber due to it catching fire I must not have got it hot enough lol.
@@randyhaglund7557 titanium sugars if you weld it in open air. you get yellow fluffy stuff that precipitates around the weld. magnesium is the one that can catch fire {volkswagen cases}
AC is great given the right rods. If more people read what each rod is designed for and bought a few to try they'd be much more effective. Industrial AC stick machines go cheap and make serious power. I bought a Hobart T-400 for the cables and kept it for the arc quality because that and it's higher OCV make it a joy to use.
I have always been of the mindset that I will fix it myself rather than pay to have it fixed. Saved thousands of dollars over the years. Welding has always been my downfall. I recently bought a POS wire welder to fix my lawn tractor that a certified welder wanted 150 to start and extra for wire/sticks used. I got this POS welder offline for 77 dollars and after watching videos like yours I managed to repair my tractor and get back to mowing the lawn. I for one thank folks like you that offer up free knowledge.
You made my day brother! THIS is exactly why I do what I do. I love seeing people repair their stuff rather than tossing it out and buying new. Keep at it man, if your anything like most of us that got the "welding bug", your going to find all kinds of uses for that welder. Nice job fixing the mover and saving a pile of cash and thanks for the great comment!
This exactly! I will use this info to help repair my cast iron log grate and I thank Mr. Lund for sharing. Oh, and Happy New Year!
Thank you very much! I appreciate your support!
Brandon THANK YOU for the knowledge I'm gaining. I was unaware of some techniques that you have used. Very good. God bless
Thank you and God bless!
I'm a novice welder and I like how you test welds and explain the equipment and usage..
Great instructional video.
Thanks Bob!
Just for conversation sake if you were repairing a skillet this way I would consider it a win. This was an inexpensive repair and I have made some big meals but I can't load 90lbs of pork chops into a skillet!
😂 I was actually surprised that it held that much weight. I don't think my stove burner would even hold 90 pounds LOL. Oh and thanks for the Pork Chop reference!...I'm starving now and I still have an hour until break LOL Cheers brother!
@@BrandonLund This series has been very educational. Nickel rod works great but that stuff is 1$ per welding rod around here. Some times the parts being repaired just don't justify that cost of repair. Please pay no mind to the naysayers this is very good real life work. I have used 7018 many times and just said either it works or it don't because we are not spending a fortune on this piece.
I what's going to say the same thing... How much do bacon and eggs weigh anyway?
I also wonder if Welding it on both sides would've made a difference...
@@drickard67 I think welding it on both sides probably would add some strength. I should have done a close up on the non welded side. The weld really doesnt penetrate so I think doing both sides probably would add strength.
True, but we should also consider the carrying capacity of a panhandle if the pan is accidentally dropped and falls to the ground.
Moving objects gain mass as they pick up speed.
A falling pan that gains more than half of its weight while falling might gain enough accumulated mass to loosen, weaken, or eventually break the weld.
This takes nothing away from the repair that was successful, but it does tell us about the important limitations of repairs that we make when being used in real-world applications.
This may seem trivial at first but in actuality, it's a very useful and practical evaluation tool.
I know this is about three years ago but your doing just fine and correctly for home or small shop repair. I'm a certified MIG, TIG, ARC, OXY/ACC, Plazma Arc welding in 9 metal groups and have been certified since 1995. Also hold an Aeronautical, Heavy Equipment, & shipboard certifications. So I've been around the block and what your doing sir for a quick home/small shop repair on cast steel is right on. Aluminum cast is a bit more complicated but I'm sure you've been able to figure that out. Anyway thanks for posting as I'm sure it will help many home & small shop repair individuals.
Thank you so much! I appreciate your support and kind words. Maybe some of the negative Nancy's will read your well articulated comment and not get so uptight.
Thank you so much for this. I've never welded before and I checked out the best way for newbies to start. Resoundingly, the answer came back Flux Core/MIG welding. I've watched 6 or 7 vids online, saying they're for beginners, but then baffle us with terms and information only experienced welders would know!? This is the first and best vid I've watched where, not only does Brandon show us how to set the machine up, but also offers a few insider 'easy to understand' tips that will help us in future endeavours.
I know someone is likely to say, "Well, it's not MIG welding, it's Flux Core welding!" Sure. OK. But have you ever tried Flux core Welding without using a MIG welder 🙄🤦🏻♂️.
Brandon, thank you. You've made a difference in my pursuit of....joining one piece of metal to another! Cheers 😉👍🏻.
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Thats my goal here in the channel. To expose new welders to different things and hopefully in a way that is entertaining and easy to understand. Thanks again for your support and kind words!
I love guys who do this. So many times I hear that "it can't be done", "you can't mig weld cast", you can't weld stainless with pure argon" etc. Turns out you can do all kinds o things at home. They may not meet lawsuit criteria or some safety factor that a metallurgy engineer established, but for most practical purposes there are tons of 'non-standard' things you can do that work perfectly well for home or emergency use. Thank you very much for doing these videos
@Gerry S thank you! That is exactly why I do some of these things. Unless we try we don't know and it might just save someone a couple bucks.
Can't never could...never will!
@Gene Autry Over the years I've learned to use the word 'can't a lot less. If I said the same thing then I would not have the knowledge that it CAN be done.
Woo-Hoo! I did it and was able to repair one retraction eye on a heavy notcher used to cut 16 ga. steel. This is a heavy *Costly* tool, big hunk of stuff I can't lift by myself. I preheated, welded, and insulated it as it cooled.
As the old guy said: "Grinders and paint make me the welder I ain't." But in the end it is pretty damned good!
Thank you Brandon! This was a life saver.
Awesome Bill! I'm glad I could help!
Brandon, you not only come up with “other way’s” of doing things, but your explanation’s, demonstration’s, and TESTING your work are a credit to your craft! I’m new to welding, and I have a large cast iron cauldron with a long crack in it. I feel confident I can weld it up myself, let it cool, and grind it back down, hopefully, never to crack again. The wall thickness is maybe HALF of what a cast iron skillet is, so, I hope I can repair it without destroying it in the process. THANK YOU!!
Thank you very much for your kind words Raul. Please keep me posted on how your repair went. I'm sure you will do just fine!
And watch out for that cursed "Metal Fatigue"
Thats why the weld is stronger than the metal you are welding to if you have done it right. That applies to all processes and all metals. Not just cast iron.
I appreciate the video ,most people don’t understand that for decades Briggs and Stratton used a pot metal for their blocks, it wasn’t as strong as billet aluminum or cast-iron, but it worked for the purpose of making a lawnmower engine ,it’s the application is what’s important to understand I worked for a company that would make molds out of Kurt site and as long as you were making thousands of parts it was a great system but because the molds were for fiberglass parts body parts ,a fiberglass mold was cheaper especially for only a few hundred parts. so it is the application and what is the cost-effective method trying to make the strongest thing in the world is not necessarily what you need to do each time .getting that through the heads of some people is rather difficult so what works on each kind of repair I find very informative and appreciate what you’re doing ,the people that complain will complain no matter what because they can’t or don’t do these things themselves .and do not consider all of the factors involved so thank again for the video.
Thank you so much. You get it. Not everyone does as you pointed out. I watch a channel called Pakastani Truckers. Those guys repurpose and get every bit of life out of something. It may not always be the best but there is some really good creativity and inginuity that comes out of being poor. Its one of the reasons i take such good care of my stuff
I've been welding for many yrs ,I still like to experiment ,just like this ,you learn many things about what works and what don't ,at one time you had only gas,stick and brazing ,you learned to do a lot of stuff with what you had. welding today has become so hi tech .I cant keep up .don,t apologize for the haters ,you're doing good.
Larry Driemel thanks Larry I appreciate your support! It’s good to have an open mind. It’s what keeps it interesting. It might not work every time but it’s just another tool in the tool box.
I have repaired cast several ways. This is about as easy as it gets. Great job!!!!! Damn good repair. I bet my bacon cooking would never break your repair. Can’t believe others would complain about your technique or instruction. I find that funny. I bet the ones that criticize are amateurs. Thank you for sharing I am always looking for an edge
Thanks man! I appreciate the support!
I bought my 1993 f150 for $400 because the engine had a cracked block between to freeze plugs. I repaired it with a flux core wire cracker box welder. that was 3 years ago and she's still my daily driver with 379,392 miles on the same cracked engine. I used a benzo torch for the heating and a tiny air hammer to do the peening.
Proof right here that it can and does work! Way to go brother! Nice work!
I heated a cracked small block Chevrolet block and had a shop vac pulling a vacuum on the cooling system while running JB Weld down into the crack just to see what would happen. It was a free boat engine that was given to me and it ended up in a shop truck. Damn thing lasted over a year before the JB Weld turned loose.
Whackoooo! and brave. Gratulation no that "out of the Box" thinking.
Wow WTF cheers mate 🤣👌🏼
That is an excellent mig welder. I regret selling the one I had. It has great range, from sheet metal to 3/8" it is smooth!! And reliable.
Thank you for this video.
Thanks Rolando! It is a very smooth and dependable welder. Because it's transformer based you can find some pretty good deals on used models on Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist. Thanks for your support brother!
I think flux core Mig was a great way to repair this little skillet! If anyone disagrees they are just being argumentative for no real real reason. Personally, I learned a lot watching this video, thank you for posting it!
Very well said! Thank you!
Dude don't listen to those people that know it all, this helped me with my exhaust leak, thanks keep on making videos
@Captain Thanks man!
As long as it holds a pancake, it's good enough for me!
Well done! You are so right about the screws and the sand! When something get broken you take what you have got at home to repare it. Stefan 👍
I totally did this once when my mom dropped my skillet. I didn't use preheat or Bevel the edges. I just cleaned and welded it and it still seems to be holding well
Nice Job!
Thanks for the invite. Knowledge is power. Well done.!!
@S Z Always welcome! Thank you! 🙏
I like this! As a welder that specializes in SS GTAW, I have repaired backhoe hydraulic rams to T50 buckets using SMAW and FCAW and there are weld procedures, pre heats, inner pass temps for each structural steel when safety is required, but I really like the experiments. Nothing gains a better understanding than a failure. For this pan, you'll never cook eggs or a steak more than 100lbs so if Self-shielded flux works, it works! A metallurgy course, temp crayons or thermal gun is very useful in these types of situations. Keep up the good work! 👍
Thanks man i appreciate it!
I’ve used several fire bricks underneath and around the edges and acetylene to preheat the material. Then nirod for the weld repair, added more fire bricks on top and let it cool slowly to prevent cracking. Good job.
Thanks man! I appreciate your support! Good tip on the fire bricks!
Love the vid! By no means am i a pro. Several years ago I had to do small hand rail welding project, little did I realize that 1 of the 2 parts was cast. At first it kept cracking my tacks, after it got warm enough it started to stick together. It took a while of weld a lil grind a lil, but it turned out looking decent and still holding to this day with my flux core machine. Nice to hear that some people still embrace alternative methods.
Thars awesome Craig! It's tricky but it can be done as you found out! Nice work buddy!
This was great to see, brazing is the one most common to me, along with nickel rods, or 309 stainless rod. Peining seems to be the best stress relief, but I see where people don't use that either. I like your presentation and thank you for something I wouldn't have tried.
Thanks for watching!
So many people think they know the best way to do anything most people really have no idea what's possible. I like that someone spends the time to show what can be done even if you don't all the right equipment. Nice thanks
You hit the nail on the head. How many say this doesn't work. The ones that "heard" it doesn't work. I'm not the only one that knows this works according to the comments. If you don't try you will never know
Another member of the Lund tribe here. Well done. Yeah, you gotta use what's at hand ...
@Broc Luno Right on my man! 🙏👍
Thanks for the video. I am one of those guys that only has Flux Core wire welder. I am also new to welding, but I knew cast iron welding wasn't as simple as other things I have welded. My sister-in-law has a crack in her cast iron pan and this comes in real handy.
I encourage you to try other methods of welding. I think you will find out that flux core, IMHO, is the least user friendly than all the other methods. Especially if you are welding sheet metal.
this tutorial is freaking awsome, very practical, very informative! thanks a bunch
Thanks and I appreciate you commenting!
Great channel! You're doing what others wonder about and that's a good thing! I grew up poor and never had the right tools for any job, everything was jury-rigged as they say, everything was 90% figuring out how, and 10% cost because we didn't have the money to just call up an expert to come running. These days I'm fortunate to be able to pay others do work, but I still think in terms of what can "I" do myself and your videos bring that out! You're not trying to sell the latest brazing rod and call it "welding" you just show what can be done equipment on hand. Flux Core welders are dirt cheap and probably the easiest way to weld and certainly less expensive than a gas setup and all the crap that goes with that!
@Randall Scott-Key you hit the nail on the head perfectly! I couldn't have said my intent to the channel any better than this! 🙏 I grew up EXACTLY how you described and it's why I make these videos. Nothing was ever what I needed. I had to figure out how to get it done with what I had on hand and that usually wasn't much. I chuckled when you said you are at that point in life where you can pay people to do certain things but still wonder about doing it yourself. That is a spot on statement. I'm at that same point in life myself and it feels good reflecting back from where we've come. It's why I give back to our community. I remember what its like to struggle.
I welded a cast-iron crank handle on a Chinese drill press that my dad broke when he tipped it over. I ground a groove on the broken parts, then decided to tack it together while waiting for my dad to braze it back together. Using my mig welder with ER70S-7 wire with 25-75 Argon gas, I used a lower than normal heat setting, and tacked it on both edges. It went so well, that I decided to make a core pass. That welded so nice, I decided to make another, then another, and another, and eventually filled it all the way with the welder. It welded amazingly well and so easily, that later I welded a HUGE crack (1/4"+) in a Ford 460 exhaust manifold for my neighbor that still wasn't leaking when he sold the truck 5-7 years later.
Nice work man. There is no better feeling when you can take what you have, use some ingenuity and make it usable again. It's a very rewarding feeling.
That works! I'm no pro welder and have a 110 flux lincoln welder and it does great! I've done car ports, deer stands, deer feeders, trailer supports etc. Strong and durable.
Flux core welders are great. They get a bad wrap sometimes. We are going to cover this in an upcoming episode.
Good video. I’ve been welding cast iron skillets, cast iron vises, ductile iron vises, engine blocks, and other cast iron engine parts for two decades using fluxcore mig or 7018. Things like exhaust manifolds with dirty carbon exhaust needs more preheat to bake out the impurities.
SS309 rod also works very well for cast repairs. It was designed to weld ss to mild steel and has a lot of chromium in it that is soft allows flex as the weld cools if post heat is not available. (Such as engine blocks in vehicles). Lastly, watch using plastic containers. I’ve melted a few. Lol
Thanks brother! I appreciate your support and kind words!
Dont huff those stainless fumes.
great job mate old school keep it up like you sead most of us only have basic gear
Thank you very much Peter and I appreciate your support and encouragement. Cheers 👍
As a welder myself, I would've put the pan in the oven for even heating. Then after welding put back in oven to slowly cool.
My wife frowns when I bring my experiments into the house and put them in the same thing that cooks our food. Ask me how i know lol 🤣
@@BrandonLund You can always head outside and use the BBQ 👍
Post heat is good for materials with high amounts of carbon, especially cast iron!
@@muskwaman500 except if its stainless..... sometimes ;-)
Brett Dalton sometimes haha only if it was Martensitic SS then preheat and postheat would be required. Wouldn’t want Austenitic SS to go over 600 Fahrenheit or else Carbide precipitation would happen lol
Great video. My Dad was a welder. But he only had the old school welding equipment. He could weld anything. He would have been excited to see all these videos.
Thanks man I appreciate it and sorry for your loss
I spent 20yrs as a coded welder using most weld systems
Did a lot of pipelines with Lincon 211 flux core.
This guy did a reasonably good job.
Any comments about vertical up versus vertical down are probably from inexperienced guys.
On a pipe line the procedure of choice is vertical up root run and vertical down for the fill and Cap.
This video is very good.
Thanks Phillip H I appreciate your support and comment! 👍
Thanks a bunch.
I've learned a thing or two from this video. I'm one of the guys that only has a flux-core mig welder... and no cutting torch either.
Than this video was for you brother! Thanks for your support!
Flux core self shield is extremely versatile. Can be used anywhere and on a wide range of applications.
Ping it a bunch while hot. Keep heat on it. Sometimes a pneumatic chisel or needle scaler works for pinging. Slowly cool it down. Use an oven if you need to, start at 500 degrees and start lowering it every 15 minutes by 20 degrees. This works with 7018. Pre heat and post heat is the most important, heat to about where a magnet dont want to stick.
Thank you! Finally someone that agrees that cast can be repaired with 7018!
@@BrandonLund Been doing since the late 80's. Cannot stress enough of the importance of pre heat and POST HEAT. The whole part if possible. Those Harbor Freight weed burners are you best friend. The magnet trick will work every time.
Spot on brother and great tip on the magnet.
@@chuckmiller5763 i do repairs on cast iron with 7018 even at cold (no preheat) using a 10% thinned than the rod copper wire surrounding the rod and weld it onis quite tricky but helps the overall ressistance on pulling and hot-cold transitions,usually i preffer 7018 rod with copper wire wrapping the rod (on thin metal i also preheat),on cast iron over 1 inch i don't preheat unless is a piece that i can handle regarding the overall weight,but my most preferrable is a stainless rod,but when i don't have stainless rods on hand,i use 7018 and works GREAT ! Yet the ideea with flux core is nice to see it in action !!!
7018 on cast Iron ? never heard that before.
90 pounds isn't strong enough for the way I cook. I throw the whole damn cow in the skillet. Gotta do better, lol.
I'm just kidding, thanks for taking the time to do this series. It truly does help us that don't know everything.
I cook the same way! Sunday morning breakfast!
Very interesting! I'm a beginner who is going to MIG weld some metal chairs that have worn screws for over 6 years. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thanks for watching!
With light duty flux core wire/stick welders now priced very affordable for home owners, small projects, deco items, these demos are 'extremely valuable. Thank You Brandon ;]
Thank you for your great comment!
If the weld would hold a 40lb/18kg concrete block, that's strong enough for me in this application.
Thanks man!
thumbs up for the kilos conversion!
Thanks!
Exhaust manifold waste gate outlet still holding ten years down the road
Right on brother! After testing the strength I'm not surprised. Cheers brother.
How about a drop test from counter top height? Just for info sake. Otherwise well done...
@@victorrodea7163 That could be interesting...Thank you for the suggestion!
Did u weld the wastegate with a mig flux core wire?
Your weld it was spot on the metal was weak have never seen a pork chop that big. your logical way of doing things makes it easier to understand , has helped me fix a broken cast iron band saw trunnion so it works for me many thanks.
Thanks 👍 I love hearing success stories like this! I appreciate your support and sharing with us. I love helping people so it makes me feel good knowing I helped.
I'm a welder, but never tried this, it does work, good job, GREAT VIDEO
Thanks William Ambrogio! Thats what it all about. Try it out, test it out :)
If you have only a Stick Welder use a Stainless Steel rod if you have no rods for cast iron.
Or Braze it with Oxy Acetylene, if you have it. The Braze will well stand the heat of a cookstove.
Brazed repaired exhaust manifolds stand up to the heat after all.
Building ships where I work we weld cast deck sockets onto the helo deck with flux core. Holds fine
Shhhhhhh.... there are people on here that say it cant be done lol. Good information. Thanks! It must be some pretty good size wire. What size wire do you run .045?
@@BrandonLund It depends. "Cast" is a broad term. You can't weld white iron but you can very easily weld nodular iron, cast steel, cast stainless or almost any non ferrous casting.
@@geoffmooregm Thanks for the information!
The moisture on the cast iron is coming from the blow torch which is a by product of combustion.
I didn't see you while I was in welding school but I look at a lot of your videos now. I like how you teach.
Thanks Steven. I appreciate you watching and your support!
I gotta try this but I'm worried what's going to happen when my wife comes asking where the skillet is.
Enjoyed your everyday yet intelligent approach.
Loooooved your Paranoia. Just kidding, i'm divorced
Thanks man much appreciated! 🙏
wonder how these repair's would react during seasoning
The weld wouldn't season. If you have access to Ocy-Acetylene though, you can weld it with cat iron rod. Then it well season like regular cast iron
water comes from the combustion of a hydrocarbon and oxygen in the air. The produced water condenses when the metal surface is still cold...
Finally someone else who knows this! Lol my old boss argued with me about this.
I wouldn’t worry about the ones who are saying this is stupid this video actually helped me cause all I have is a flux core welder and I need to repair my cast vise this video showed me I can fix it and how to fix it
Thanks Steve and good luck with your project
Great video thank you so much . Cracked my favorite pan tonight and I happened to have a flux core mig . I was so happy to find this channel. Again much appreciated from Australia 🏆
Thanks and good luck! I appreciate your support!
this was helpful thanks. i have a fireplace grate to repair and now i know i can do it with 7018 or flux core....(dont have a tig)
Your welcome! Good luck on your repair!
braze it.?
i never heard of a repair of cast with anything other then brazing. back in the day we braz cast iron massyfergesen frontend ( a 2 foot half bowl shape about 2+ inchs thick. )and it worked! A lot of stress on that piece holding front of tractor pounding down etc.never heard of a failure. Took long time to heat that piece 5 hours+, and 12 hours to cool it. also used bolts to hold the it together. removed them and filled that part of crack.
Brazing is probably the safest and most trusted method in my experience but for those without the proper conventional equipment, I wanted to demonstrate several different processes and then using a destructive process as a form of comparison.
Hey man I took a crazy adventure this weekend my shifter fork on my truck went out... No job right now so I welded it up enough to get me by for a week or 2 till the part gets in do u think it will last took my time. But I got it
Brazing isn’t as strong as welding. Sometimes, with a crack in a big casting, brazing is fine, but usually, for a thinner part that needs strength, welding is better.
@@melgrosssorry it took so long to respond. But. My shifter fork is like a halfmoon hugged around my sincros.... Remember it's a trans really long and narrow. I just wanted to know if I beveled it to build a complete buildup.... To almost oe specs would it hold... LoL
I made it work temporally buy drilling 2 holes and putting regular steel in the holes. Then I lightly tack welded keeping almost room tempature cause steel and cast expand different metals. I almost have it close to stock but It's a patch for now so did i do ok or am I doomed. I.e. I kept it co cool my finger were less than an inch away from a thin piece of the fork and after welding I could hold the part less than an inch away from my welding is that ok
Phill Black it’s hard to assume without seeing it, but it all depends on the load. Welding can be stronger than the original metal, if it’s done correctly. Don’t grind it down, leave it as welded, because it’ll be stronger.
Unless you're cooking a manifold. I'd say the repair worked
Nice going Brandon, giving new ideas is always good, it is how knowledge progresses.
I have never stopped being open minded or looking at things from outside of the box.
Never allow others who think they are superior to stop you from being inventive, if you think you have a new idea and it works, use it if you can, it may become the preferred method even if it is unorthodox or not the norm.
Cast iron is not difficult if you have the knowledge of how past failures taught you the methods that work for you today.
There are machines out there that stilĺ work that I fixed welding cast to steel 45 years ago with methods that were called impossible and almost cost me my job, and the people who would have condemned my work if they could have are now long gone, those machines outlived them.
Hats off and regards. J.
Thanks John for the great comment. It sounds like we have a lot in common. I've always been inquisitive and if told something won't work I have always had a genuine curiosity of why. My curiosity with welding cast iron started 25 plus years ago. In short I broke a part that couldn't be replaced. It was obsolete. I was told the item was "priceless". It was about the size of a pack of cigarettes. I was told it couldn't be welded or repaired. I brought it to several welding shops and they all said it was impossible and they wouldn't touch it. Back then we didn't have internet to research. I ended up used brazing rod to repair it. To my knowledge its still in service to this day. Most of my knowledge comes from within wanting to know more. From.that point forward I quickly realized that cast iron was a voodoo material to some. I figured if I can do (out of necessity) what others say can't be done, why not test some other methods. Surprisingly a lot of them are decent repairs. 👌 thanks for your support man! 👍
I think it's a awesome job in showing the people that are not aware of these people who need to be aware of welding thing's.Thanks for you doing it your way!
You bet and thanks for your support!
@@BrandonLund I got your back, and you are sertanally welcome.
Water is a by-product of the flame, then condenses on the cooler pan until the pan gets hot enough to vaporize the water. My 2 cents....
You are absolutley correct. You won't see the moisture if you were to use an oven or induction heater.
Correct. But it IS how almost all weld shops preheat. For cast I have always used a Temp stick to make sure it got to 300° before welding
@@tubbz691 Yea nothing wrong with it. I had a natural gas with compressed air torch. It was a freaking monster. The compressed air created a venturi effect on the gas line and actually pulled a vacuum on it to draw extra gas out.
I was taught to heat the cast iron red hot before welding it
Ok and he just proved you don’t need to
Bonus: if you have a pan in your kitchen that you repaired when it broke, that's pretty cool..
Good point!
Thank you for the push. I needed to weld a bronze part from an old Russwin morticed lock set. It had worn from 80 years of service. All I have is a flux core welder so after your video I gave it a go. It worked and now my house has its front door lock functioning at 100%.
I love it! Your story is why I love doing these videos. A lot of time people are told "it wont work" until someone comes along and tries and it does. Congratulations on getting it all beck together!
Awesome. Unlike some of the haters i can read the title description and love your common sense approach to using what you have on hand to get the job done. Keep up the great work on informing those that would learn.
Well said buddy! Thank you!
I used to weld cast with a nickel rod.
Lately I've been welding it with everything. Nickel rod is good stuff Robert!
@@BrandonLund I can appreciate the effort you put in to showing the effect of using alternate methods. It's better to know why things do and don't work, and at what level. It puts to rest a lot of urban legend.
that's what makes this series fun. I often get surprised with the results too :)
I like your enthusiasm for this , keep it going . Don't worry about the keyboard warriors, see how many videos they have posted , bet it's none
Hahaha right on brother! Thanks man.
Dang, I never found a 94 lbs steak to put on a cast iron skillet
Thanks man! :)
These videos are awesome. I'm not the greatest welder by any means, but I can and do weld almost daily and I've learned things on all the videos I've watched thus far. Thank you.
Thank you very much!
I think it's awesome what your doing. There will always be critics. Don't let them bother you brother!
Hey Jeff I appreciate your support! If I can save some people a little bit of money instead of having to buy new I think that's a win for everyone. Some people see it differently though lol.
It will hold anything you can fry or bake.
right on brother!
serious repair requires a rivet at end of crack to stop more cracking.
but i am referring to pro repair vs home made.
I'm not even sure why you said this... Was it for the benefit of others or your own selfish, negative ego?
that big metal surface would have absolutely acted like a heat sink
Fill the pan with sand stick it on an electric hob
I fixed a cast iron stove top and was told the same way you did it.In the end I was happy with the final outcome.The process does not put the cast item back to new but it will give a few more years use from it
Right on Peter! It's always a good feeling when you can repair something and get more use from it!
I'm more impressed that you replied to almost all the comments rather than the weld.
LOL I figure if people are nice enough to support me by watching the video and commenting, the least I can do is respond 👍
It's great, but tig is awesome😂
I agree!
yep tig far better .
Lund sounds like a Swedish name.
😁 it sure is. My great grandfather and his wife immigrated to the US in the early 1900’s. Thanks for the comment
91 pounds in that pan.... That'd be one hell of a heavy breakfast.
I often cook up some lead in the morning so my pans have to be strong
Mama's pancakes lay heavy.
@@dchawk81 If they're that heavy.... you ain't goin' to need no lunch....
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Right on! 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for taking the time for this demonstration.
My pleasure!
How am I not subscribed to this guy all ready.
I appreciate your support brother!
Unless you’re using your cast iron skillet as a load bearing structure, I don’t see a problem with this.
Thanks buddy!
You making way too much sense for the armchair quarterbacks in a RUclips comment section!
@@tommydeadwood 🤣🤣🤣👍
@@tommydeadwood 🤣🤣🤣👍
Will it hold my eggs and bacon.
Not if your 92 pounds of food hungry 🤣🤣🤣
for sure it will hold bacon and eggs or a burger :)
I would say it was a success :)
Really, really good analytical approach; testing like this is exactly how industries like nuclear and aerospace developed their specs. Test, measure, and test again. Good work, sir!
Thanks!
I have an older version of the same welder. Absolutely no regrets! It’s amazing what can be done with some thought, patience, and ingenuity. I like to make every effort to overcome a need without blowing a bunch of money on a new machine for a single little job. I like the way you roll. Thanks for the video. Never considered welding cast iron with it. Now I have to go try it out for myself. 👍
Thanks man! You cant go wrong with Hobart!
Thank you for doing this video. Just as you explained, not all of us out here have gas fed systems or can even afford them or an expensive welder. Also not all of us live in the US where everything is cheap and affordable. Where I live, most products and or equipment is 10- 30 times more than the average US $ cost due to foreign exchange, duty import taxes and ridiculously high retail markups by greedy merchants.
So when you idiots want to give this guy flack for doing videos like this to help the poor or less equipped man or woman, think before you type or just keep your damn opinions to yourself if you have nothing positive to say.
Flux core self shield is extremely common in industry. No real welder would bash it because they know it is essential to high production welding outdoors. Anyone hating on it is simply not educated on the subject.
How many women can hold a frying pan with 91 pounds of bacon on it?
She is frying the whole hog! Baby!
This is brilliant. People calling you an idiot for when it works? Very well explained and demonstrated. Thank you sir.
Thanks buddy...I look at it this way...there are people on this earth that could win the lottery but still complain about having to pay taxes on the money. You can't please everyone lol 👍
@@BrandonLund I hear that mate. Could you do the same process using regular mig wire? Thankyou for your reply too.
Check out my cast iron playlist. Ive tested tons of processes including bare wire, flux core, tig and stick with different fillers ruclips.net/p/PLfbf78fMz9VpweFv4IqUfrrNV6Vvro7Cd
@@BrandonLund thank you so much man. Just to let you know I had a project that was cast iron and a part had broken off. I used your process and it worked amazingly. Thank you so much. Do you have Instagram? So I can tag you in it when I've finished.
I'm on Instagram as @lunddiybuilds. Im glad i could help out! Install the app to follow my photos and videos. instagram.com/invites/contact/?i=1eq5w6dn93gva&
Nice science experiment. Enjoying your teaching ability. Thanks.
Thanks Dave I appreciate your support and encouragement!
Are you really going to put almost 100 pounds of food in that little skillet? I think it will do fine
It's not the weight of the food that I'm worried about. It would be if the pan fell which would increase the weight of the pan and its contents causing the pan to gain mass as it quickly falls to the floor.
I don't know the calculations, but even an object falling which accumulates, let's say, a mass of 45 lbs by the time it hits the ground might be enough to loosen/weaken the welds enough so that they knew carrying limit of the repaired handle is less than half of the 90lbs you started with.
dude.... its an awesome video.
I have a flux core mig welder.....
I have a us$200 cast iron pan.. I broke the handle off..my fave pan.
I never thought I could weld it.. but.. watching your vid.. gonna give it a go..
nothing lost.. since its buggered now..
Thanks man but please just be careful...i dont reccomend fixing cast iron pans just in case the weld should ever break it could burn down your house with hot greese or worse, burn someone.
@@BrandonLund i only use the frying pan when camping and i never cook in a tent
don't worry bud, you're not alone. I always going against the traditional welding rules and it work really well, even better imo. keep doing what we love to. experimenting is fun. I learn new skill everyday
Right on brother! Thank you!
Been a welder for 42 yrs. But impressive. Ive done a lot of cast iron repairs. Your whole aproch is good with the preheating and cooling. And ni rod is the best. But i would have never have tried flux cor for that but it was fairly successful. I worked at NASA for 24 yrs as a welder. The milspec gov. Catalog listed 7018 as rod for welding cast iron. Never really tryed it but always found that description interesting
Oddly enough I have tried 7018 and although many people have told me they have had good luck, I have not. The one repair that I have found to date that is just about as strong as the cast iron before its broken is mig welding with silicon bronze. It welds like butter and it's super strong
People on the internet will always get angry about something regardless, now as I understand when you weld any kind of metal the weld is stronger than the actual material and as far as the test goes weld seem to hold very well, good stuff sir.
Thanks man...I appreciate your support. yah, haters are everywhere. As you mentioned, the tensile strength of the weld metal is typically greater than the base material which is why a proper weld will fail outside the weldment.
Good for you for goin outside the box a little. it doesn't matter what haters think / say. thanks for showing us people that don't know EVERYTHING how to get around other so called conventional ways of doing things. right on brother.
Well said!