Story of this video: dont play dans (like seriously dont play them. As an experienced mania player dans doesnt mean actual skill since u can usually be specialised on one skill such as jack, and tank the rest of the map. Also it fucks with ur pov of mania skill in general
I 100% agree with this comment and I hope more people realize this. I used to play dan maps all the time, but recently I have gone out of that mentality and obsession and it really helped me enjoy the game a lot more.
As DDMythical said, "Dans are milestones for your skill, and are often helpful as a goal, but not something to play all the time." People can play dans if they want, but have to remember that its not good to play only dans all time
First map is jack second is technical third is speed fourth is stamina for me stamina is no boss song, it might even be the thing that help me to recover from the abyss and usually speed/jack is the hardest song for me
Shoegazer is weird bc it goes jack speed tech stream sometimes Also for me my worst to best is prolly Jack: garbage Tech: can acc low dense but can’t necessarily hit high dense, also depends on map Speed: sometimes can acc dense patterns but it honestly depends on the map Stream/Stamina: speed is my only limit and I might be alpha stream lowkey (I’m 9th overall)
i play dans for fun but i play it for competition against my skill tip: get high accuracy on the first song and try to maintain the accuracy from there
I didn’t know you had this other channel I heard your voice and I was so confused then I saw your name at the end. I like grinding out the stamina maps like the one you played at the end they’re fun
Yeah, reform Dan 4's final song is so much harder than the rest. I enter the final song with 97 and end with barely below 96. I'm probably just going to skip to Dan 5 kek.
1st song is jack map 2nd one is tech map 3rd is sped vroom vrom 4th is sstamina just dont play dans, like what adam's comment said, it doesnt measure ur skill that well and that
this is mania maps in general lmao. The difficulty jump from 4 to 5 stars is insane, its not just dans. Dans aren't a clear representation of ones skill either bc everyone has different skillsets.
☠️ year later coming back to this, 5 star damn near made me retire. I really had no idea how bad the skill gap was good lord. I’m barely able to play 5 star maps. And my hands are currently in a casket from trying to
dans are split into 4 parts, 1st is always "Jack" we are all familiar with jacks, but dan courses always have chordjacks. 2nd is "Tech" tech maps have changing rhythms throughout the map, so its not just an ongoing rhythm like the other maps. 3rd map is "Speed" these type of maps are very often singlestreams (not jumpstreams or handstreams) 4th and final map is "Stamina" these maps are usually handstreams or jumpstreams(like angel of darkness), these are also mostly very long and with minimal breaks. The point of the "Dan" course is to measure your skill in every one of these aspects in the game. It calculates how good of a play you are in general, not in a specific mapping style.
I am SO glad to see that these maps mess with all mania-style VSRG players and not just me. As an FNF player, I've found it VERY hard to tell how good I am because of every FNF player ever going "OH WOW YOU'RE CRACKED YOU FC'D BLAMMED YOU MUST BE THE BEST EVER" (This is obviously not impressive in the slightest I've done way crazier stuff than this lol)
The best measurement of skill we ever got was etternas. Every skill set has its own rating and combines for an overall rating. Songs are rated like this too. The only turn off would probably be the lack of long note songs and ridiculous focus on accuracy.
Finally completed 5th dan after months. Tbh, if you wanna complete it there are 2 extremely important things: getting faster and learning dense js. The tech and speed maps are absurd for 5th dan for new players and are extremely unforgiving, so you are forced to be faster if you want to clear it. Second, the stamina map is absurd compared to 4th, dense compared to light js is a stupidly large jump and makes it ridiculously hard, you have to practice it specifically if you want to clear.
the jump of difficulty from dan 4th from 5th is so big i seriously dont know how i cleared it with 97.95 stamina is horrible also im grinding dan 6th and i got 95.77 edit: clear 6th 96.09 loll wtf the jump to dan 6th to 7th
@@ItzSebas- tell me when you clear 8th cause I have been stuck with it for months. I have cleared every individual map but jacks. I have also cleared all 9th individual maps but stamina so fuck 8th xdd. I even think 9th is srated less than 8th
theres no such thing as a stream or a boss map what you called a stream map at first was the tech map and the second one was speed and the "boss map" was stamina
You got that all wrong, dans are rlly good if you don’t have severe skill issues and overestimate yourself and have rlly low knowledge of the game, the second song here is a tech map it is meant to feel awkward last map is a stamina map and it is not that hard you just have skill issues.
at first when i saw this video i was like this video looks so much like something what tokaku would make but she has a invisible name and when i heard her talk i realised it was tokaku
I cleared 7th dan and my major issue with 8th dan is the jack map which i can barely even pass. 8th stamina is also kinda hard but not as difficult as the jack map by far. I cleared 8th tech and speed doe (even cleared 9th speed lol). And don't worry, i was 4th dan about 3 months ago
8th jack is much harder than 7th jack 8th stamina is around 7th stamina but harder like 10% 8th tech is EASIER than 7th tech 8th speed is more fun than 7th speed
yeah dans are stupid lol, the last songs are always wayy harder than the previous ones which catch anyone offguard lol. also can i know what skin you use? :)
sorry if this sounds agressiven, but you're honestly just bad, first song is jacks, second is tech which it was (had variable bpm and awkward patterns), third is speed, it was slow but it had the speed patterns, and last one wasn't hard it was very simple stamina, it was low bpm jumpstream and handstream, very easy it was just a skill issue from your part.
dans are kinda useless and ridicolously inaccurate for juding a player's skill level, lets do a practic example. Im trying to beat the "beta dan" (12th dan), but to actually pass it you need 96%. i have 95.44% on it, yet i can get 97% or even more on every song but the first, because the first song is usually chordjacks and im bad at those. So basically if you are specialized in anything or if you aren't as good in 1 skill set as the rest you get penalized HEAVILY. moral of the story: dan bad go farm pp with dt
@@fayah8865 never said you had to play dans for the true osu mania experience it was a suggestion it’s ok if you’re bad at chords no judgement im not a chordjack main either
@@azael2078 wll 1.2x and fastest crash are the best songs in gamma, those are the most playable ones, break 1.1x and reflec streamz are just pure rng, i can consistently hit the ending on wll 1.2x while hp passing break or reflec is just luck
@@Adrig3 the ending of wll 1.2 is harder then 1.3's intro, fastest crash is easy asf i agree. reflec is mixed. i used to have problems but now i can 93 on warmup. break however just sucks
i just realised that this is tokaku
and practice makes perfect
most Dans include many maps from Etterna/Stepmania, these types of maps are usually just absurd to play if you're not familiar with them
hi reyi
what's funny is that i found the dan maps playable and osu mania maps absurd LOL
Story of this video: dont play dans (like seriously dont play them. As an experienced mania player dans doesnt mean actual skill since u can usually be specialised on one skill such as jack, and tank the rest of the map. Also it fucks with ur pov of mania skill in general
adamackerville
I 100% agree with this comment and I hope more people realize this. I used to play dan maps all the time, but recently I have gone out of that mentality and obsession and it really helped me enjoy the game a lot more.
As DDMythical said,
"Dans are milestones for your skill, and are often helpful as a goal, but not something to play all the time."
People can play dans if they want, but have to remember that its not good to play only dans all time
oh hey adam wtf
Mindblock on everything be like
the maps in order are always
jacks, tech, streams, and stamina which is usually a jumpstream or handstream map
I believe the pattern for the bossfight was a light jumpstream
yeah that was the stamina map for like... 5th? 6th? dan idk which that is i never played it that low its just a light light jumpstream
Its tokaku
That is not light JS, it’s dense JS
First map is jack
second is technical
third is speed
fourth is stamina
for me stamina is no boss song, it might even be the thing that help me to recover from the abyss and usually speed/jack is the hardest song for me
stamina makes me drop like 3% (im a jack main)
Jack is my worst category and the tech map on 9th dan (my current highest dan clear) is also hard. Speed and stamina is what saves me lol
Tech was not fun and weird
Bro in gamma I can 96 jack but tech is just 94 and streams is 92 and stamina is 95
Shoegazer is weird bc it goes jack speed tech stream sometimes
Also for me my worst to best is prolly
Jack: garbage
Tech: can acc low dense but can’t necessarily hit high dense, also depends on map
Speed: sometimes can acc dense patterns but it honestly depends on the map
Stream/Stamina: speed is my only limit and I might be alpha stream lowkey (I’m 9th overall)
im in love with dan. dan stole my heart and soul
i am in love with you
1:41 same for me when i do higher diff my mind goes blank and my finger moves on its own i really liked the feeling but it dont usually come out
Yeah idk what that even is
@UnknownDrilla yeah, same
i usually call that a skillboost
idk how to explain it through text
real its almost like i dont know where to put my eyes to read allat
i play dans for fun but i play it for competition against my skill
tip: get high accuracy on the first song and try to maintain the accuracy from there
lmao the Pre-v1 from 0:05 is actually used the wrong chart
I had the opposite problem lmao. I kept getting mindblocks on all the songs except angel of darkness which was pretty fun. 5th Dan is still crazy tho
10 dan is better
@@bingchilling8433No because The Lost Dedicated is crap.
tokaku: *barely fcing 4* maps*
me who looks up to tokaku: *time to forget about these 5 star maps I downloaded*
Aren't you glad you didn't give up? :)
@@jaken7782 I wanna give up now because I missed the ending of a 5 star
The second map is usually more technical
I didn’t know you had this other channel I heard your voice and I was so confused then I saw your name at the end. I like grinding out the stamina maps like the one you played at the end they’re fun
the keyboard too
Yeah, reform Dan 4's final song is so much harder than the rest. I enter the final song with 97 and end with barely below 96. I'm probably just going to skip to Dan 5 kek.
not really the ddmythical dans from intro to alpha are balanced, you just had or have unbalanced skillsets
@@Inverted_ nope, they are not balanced and are not supposed to be taken seriously, said by the creator as far as i remember lol
1st song is jack map
2nd one is tech map
3rd is sped vroom vrom
4th is sstamina
just dont play dans, like what adam's comment said, it doesnt measure ur skill that well and that
1st song is low budget vibro
2nd song is weirdest piece of shit
3rd song is car race
4th song is masher
@@Oofyxl low budget vibro
@@aubreamber so true
this is mania maps in general lmao. The difficulty jump from 4 to 5 stars is insane, its not just dans. Dans aren't a clear representation of ones skill either bc everyone has different skillsets.
I thought the skill jump from 3 to 4 star was too much. Idk about 5 star but I’ll see when I get there
fr the jump from 4* to 5* is quite insane for some maps. Although there are some 5* maps that are comparable to 4*
☠️ year later coming back to this, 5 star damn near made me retire. I really had no idea how bad the skill gap was good lord. I’m barely able to play 5 star maps. And my hands are currently in a casket from trying to
lol the jump fron 4 to 5 was so easy for me it only took about 5 hours
Angel of darkness is not 5 stars
Why it looks so easy on the video but is acctually soo hard 😭
dans are split into 4 parts,
1st is always "Jack"
we are all familiar with jacks, but dan courses always have chordjacks.
2nd is "Tech"
tech maps have changing rhythms throughout the map, so its not just an ongoing rhythm like the other maps.
3rd map is "Speed"
these type of maps are very often singlestreams (not jumpstreams or handstreams)
4th and final map is "Stamina"
these maps are usually handstreams or jumpstreams(like angel of darkness), these are also mostly very long and with minimal breaks.
The point of the "Dan" course is to measure your skill in every one of these aspects in the game. It calculates how good of a play you are in general, not in a specific mapping style.
🤓
just tried two 3rd dans theyre very fun
tokaku: "this is easy"
me: im too noob to do this
as someone with a 95 choke on epsilon...
i have nothing to say i just wanna flex
I am SO glad to see that these maps mess with all mania-style VSRG players and not just me. As an FNF player, I've found it VERY hard to tell how good I am because of every FNF player ever going "OH WOW YOU'RE CRACKED YOU FC'D BLAMMED YOU MUST BE THE BEST EVER" (This is obviously not impressive in the slightest I've done way crazier stuff than this lol)
The best measurement of skill we ever got was etternas. Every skill set has its own rating and combines for an overall rating. Songs are rated like this too. The only turn off would probably be the lack of long note songs and ridiculous focus on accuracy.
however as a ro-fnf player mf, like decentcy on vs camellia to dnb stuff being unhinged
That fucking octopus that I hate-
this happen to me in dan 5, the three first songs are easy but electrik u-phoria is impossible
Finally completed 5th dan after months. Tbh, if you wanna complete it there are 2 extremely important things: getting faster and learning dense js. The tech and speed maps are absurd for 5th dan for new players and are extremely unforgiving, so you are forced to be faster if you want to clear it. Second, the stamina map is absurd compared to 4th, dense compared to light js is a stupidly large jump and makes it ridiculously hard, you have to practice it specifically if you want to clear.
tip: play dans rarely
@@danksquidboy this is ancient comment lol i hate dans (alpha clear never :sob:)
@@caughtintheweb0 necroposting is funny
@@danksquidboy agree
@@danksquidboy the first time I played dans I was already at the 9th, idk how I haven't even heard of it in my years of playing
I have also no idea how I also cleared angel of darkness
Totaku? Is that you?
there are 3 tokakus, what the...
This setup is kinda fire bro
I wonder how it'd look like if I had this setup and played 7-8* manip beatmaps
big fan mr cyclically
What's the keyboard you're using? And the switches? I might try to find that set
As a DDR'r, I have no idea how you read flat arrows like that haha. Good job.
I usually play etterna now and I ABSOLUTELY cannot read anything too dense with same coloured arrows anymore
@@user-bx9sg1qr9x Yeah it hurts my brain. Give me colours!
@@AJ_UK_LIVE totally oposite for me. I made my etterna skin single coloured so i dont get confused haha. But its logical colours are helpful
the jump of difficulty from dan 4th from 5th is so big i seriously dont know how i cleared it with 97.95 stamina is horrible
also im grinding dan 6th and i got 95.77
edit: clear 6th 96.09 loll
wtf the jump to dan 6th to 7th
lmao dan 7th is very easy compared to 6. speed is easier and the rest is normal.
@@jerrytv9889 yaay i cleared 7th :)
@@ItzSebas- tell me when you clear 8th cause I have been stuck with it for months. I have cleared every individual map but jacks. I have also cleared all 9th individual maps but stamina so fuck 8th xdd. I even think 9th is srated less than 8th
@@jerrytv9889 is 8th jacks trapce? That map is acc farm until the last bit lmao considering it is afterall 130 light handjack (pretty hard I'd say)
@@malceid no, 8th jacks is to the limit 1.1x. I have cleared 8th and 9th btw
I need the first Beatmap song
Heres the usual skillset dan courses tackle
Jacks -> Technical -> Speed -> Stamina
I found angel of darkness to be the most free song in 4 ngl
your keyboard sounds so good omfg
jack
technical
speed
stamina
theres no such thing as a stream or a boss map
what you called a stream map at first was the tech map and the second one was speed
and the "boss map" was stamina
you keyboard sond very good.what is this keyboard?
I want that keyboard...
I think i found your secret channel
You got that all wrong, dans are rlly good if you don’t have severe skill issues and overestimate yourself and have rlly low knowledge of the game, the second song here is a tech map it is meant to feel awkward last map is a stamina map and it is not that hard you just have skill issues.
at first when i saw this video i was like this video looks so much like something what tokaku would make but she has a invisible name and when i heard her talk i realised it was tokaku
What keyboard is that😮
i didnt know this is tokaku
i was gonna say this person sounds an awful lot like tokaku
what is the name of the keyboard? Is he good for osumania?
why the heck did i thought this was just some random guy playing mania
…you sound like tokaku …wait a minute
I cleared 7th dan and my major issue with 8th dan is the jack map which i can barely even pass.
8th stamina is also kinda hard but not as difficult as the jack map by far.
I cleared 8th tech and speed doe (even cleared 9th speed lol).
And don't worry, i was 4th dan about 3 months ago
For me 8th stamina is easer than 7th. Also I cleared every song in 9the dan but cant even pass jack one :/
@@behindtiredeyes For me 9th speed is alot easier than 8th speed lol.
а что было год назад? ;)
@@de-fk7wv начал в манию играть х)
8th jack is much harder than 7th jack
8th stamina is around 7th stamina but harder like 10%
8th tech is EASIER than 7th tech
8th speed is more fun than 7th speed
@@Oofyxl Well now I'm alpha speed and stamina, 10th tech but still like 8th jack lmao
i knew it was tokaku from the voice
playing dans a lot is a bad idea
stamina maps more like wtf
why is this in my feed
God. Compared to 6th. That stamina looks easy.
Cause it is.
tbh i hate long notes forever (when they combined with other, imagine hold notes with hand stream)
Mint map shields
9year old just 97 4th dan
I'm watching random Osu videos for motivation to play osu again😔
Its hard to search u on RUclips
Just popped out from my recommendation
wait this is tokaku?
1st map Jack
2nd map tech
3rd map speed
4th map stamina but boss map sounds cooler
keyboard?
The stamina chart in dans always sucks
I tried progressing through one on downvotes but it's piss on 0.95 and impossible on 1.0
wait tokaku?
the 4th dan i played was harder i feel scammed out of how much pain i had with that
4th sample tech is easier than 4th official tech imo
yeah dans are stupid lol, the last songs are always wayy harder than the previous ones which catch anyone offguard lol. also can i know what skin you use? :)
sorry if this sounds agressiven, but you're honestly just bad, first song is jacks, second is tech which it was (had variable bpm and awkward patterns), third is speed, it was slow but it had the speed patterns, and last one wasn't hard it was very simple stamina, it was low bpm jumpstream and handstream, very easy it was just a skill issue from your part.
I mean compared to the 5th dan (the one I can overclear or clear ig) it s pretty easy
eyyyyy brooooooooooo skin???????
This video fuels my ego.
map link please ?
What the letters at middle means
dans are kinda useless and ridicolously inaccurate for juding a player's skill level, lets do a practic example. Im trying to beat the "beta dan" (12th dan), but to actually pass it you need 96%. i have 95.44% on it, yet i can get 97% or even more on every song but the first, because the first song is usually chordjacks and im bad at those. So basically if you are specialized in anything or if you aren't as good in 1 skill set as the rest you get penalized HEAVILY. moral of the story: dan bad go farm pp with dt
Yeah like
I'm 10th dan but i overcleared alpha jack lmao
maybe you just need to balance yourself. bad at chords? play more chords
@@fewwett no shit Sherlock, but ever heard of a concept called "playing what you find fun"?
@@fayah8865 never said you had to play dans for the true osu mania experience it was a suggestion it’s ok if you’re bad at chords no judgement im not a chordjack main either
and then there's the gamma dan where the "boss song" is the easiest in my opinion lol, i guess it depends on the skillset you are better at
i like how tokaku says "boss song" but like in dan 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th stamina are hell (my opinion)
bro wll 1.2 is the worst song in gamma
ending sucks, entire dan sucks
@@azael2078 wll 1.2x and fastest crash are the best songs in gamma, those are the most playable ones, break 1.1x and reflec streamz are just pure rng, i can consistently hit the ending on wll 1.2x while hp passing break or reflec is just luck
@@Adrig3 the ending of wll 1.2 is harder then 1.3's intro, fastest crash is easy asf i agree. reflec is mixed. i used to have problems but now i can 93 on warmup. break however just sucks
@@azael2078 i agree, specially with break sucks
what switches are in that keyboard they sound amazing
Ayy what is that keyboard bro?
very nice looking and shape keyboard
keyboard specs
jumpstream is so hard
top tier mania content right here
Lol i had the same experience with dans but i discovered them a bit later, 8th dan was a nightmare
skin please
i need that kb
Whats your note skin?
Get ddmythical dan its the official one
Also its jack, tech, speed, and stamina. Cant believe 4th tech looks like speed lol
DDmythical is banned?
@@SrParao theres a website with his official maps wait lemme get them
Clean video
skin link pls
Just wait until you get to extra gamma the first jack map will SUCK A LOT
the only gamma map that I cleared :pain:
break 1.1 is the reason i cant clear gamma lol
reflec is gay and that the fact
reflec is gay
just play sample gamma 4head
exile and star of andromeda 1.1 are easier imo
WHAT SKIN IS THIS?
Pls pls pls pls tell me keyboard name
IQUNIX L80 formular
Whats this skin?
How to edit video like this?
nice keyboard
clear example of skill issue
also skin pls
ok but why do you hate dan so much, he's done nothing to you😭😭😭😭
At least he didnt try the alpha to zeta
"Don't play dans" kkkkkk
I'm delta. Tip:Don't play dans. You will regret it.
The last map was still easy