BEAST VS K.G.F. CHAPTER 2: Problem With Tamil Cinema | Why Can't We Produce PAN Indian Movies
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As a Telugu person what i observed in Tamil films
1.most of the films are either anti hindu or pro Christian
2 .caste angle for political ideology
.... telling realistic story and adding their political ideology(jai bheem)
3..picturising very realistic way..i feel boring
4..less entertainment..
5 ..nowadays Tamil movies are not like Shankar movies .
@@seethasravani8263 u think flying in the air, speaking lengthy dialogue making an item number with glamorous heroine and unwanted cringy comedy is the only cinema right. That means tamil cinema is not for u guys.
@@vikramrajan9369 lol showing abt caste is not right too
Nijame bro
@@vikramrajan9369 nonsense as Delhi person I hate Tamil Cinema...
They alsays potriamty Upper Caste as devil...🤣
And that,s why No Movie In Tamil Cross 😭 1000cr...
Bro you cinima knowledge 😂😂😂 wake go search imdp ratting 🗿then theatre list,yhen😢, ticket price,then show time . Also we industry fan fight worst bthay is main reason
Atlee played a major role in the extreme popularity of Vijay in Hindi Belt. Tamil Nadu people trolled him for copying old scenes but he is an extremely good director. His films worked really well among north indian mass audience. People don't want to spend 3 hours and 200-300 rupees for watching genre films in theatre. That they can watch on OTT.
To appeal pan india, Tamil makers have to focus on commercial mass masala entertainer with solid engaging script.
Another problem of Tamil directors is that they insert their political ideology in their films which should be avoided or minimised
Atlee mokka
Very true! these fellows make Politics in entertainment field and entertainment in politics 🙏🏾
how long are u going to enjoy the same commercial mass masala movies? the moment u see the trailer u will know there will be a villain, 5 songs, 5 fights, same old love and sentiments.. worst part is u have problem with the political ideology? 80's and 90's filled with the same kind of movies at least now let ppl to encourage experimental , story or performance oriented movies. BTW there is no need for any tamil movies to focus on grabbing north Indian attention
Bro, both Bahubali and kgf are genre films only. Baahubali is a historical fiction war drama and KGF is a thriller action drama. The only commercial thing bahubali and kgf added is a romantic song and an item song.
othukongada summa nakkathinga, land'u dry aagi romba naal aachu.
As a kannadiga, Tamil has always made a different and creative movies from the start to till date. Ur industry has always an inspiration TO DO BIG. Thanks
I'm from Karnataka, I don't think there's deficiency in creativity.
Tamil industry has always produced amazing films.
To name a few, Asuran, Vada Chennai, Kaithi, Thani Oruvan, Soorarai Pottru, Jai Bheem, Super Deluxe.
All these films have reached places.
Success doesn't really depend on the collections.
These films which you mentioned can satisfy Tamil Nadu audience but it will not cross the borders and will not accepted by other state audience as pan India movie. Sankar have the capability to take such pan India movies for Tamil Cinema.
@@Mickey-gx3dg I disagree. Being a Kannadiga, I have watched these movies with subtitles and have loved them. they may not be commercial movies. but malyalam and tamil industries dominate with their content. we are so behind when compared to tamil/malyalam cinema. only KGF has come out of KFI as a big pan India movie. but tamil movies even without dubbing to other languages, has reached many mature/educated audience with subtitles. If one day KFI reach tamil cinema standards with our content, I would be very happy.
@@suhasbv2975 Yes you and some people from other states can enjoy the above mentioned Tamil movies. But it will not recognised by majority of other state audience’s. Example for an good pan India movie is Kgf2, being a Kannada movie it is celebrated by 95 percent of Tamil audience.
@@suhasbv2975 naavu KannaDigarallavo vishaala .....!
@@suhasbv2975 Thithi, Ondhu Moteya Kathey are 🔥 Kannada movies
Actually, we are missing Director Shankar now, Enthiran 1st part is a Pan India movie because it was released in many languages in 2010 itself.
@SURIYA 2.0 collected 800cr then how it is a flop?
@SURIYA do you even know what u are talking? in an interview vishu vishal said his FIR movie has made more profit before release compared to rathasan whole collection. this is because movies make huge business not only in box office. imagine rajini's marketing value and his reach, satellite rights, china release ,audio rights plus unofficial 800cr. and u are here simply calling a movie flop without any solid evidence.
@SURIYA so u are basically repeating what i just said , certain movies do run due to star value which means it does the business.Televison resale value is satellite rights also what i just said earlier. the directors of ayirathil oruvan and anbe sivam confimed in many interviews that they didn't not get the recognition and business when the movie released another irrelevant point and no one said so far that 2.0 movie did not performed to the expectation. u have never give any solid evidence to proof 2.0 is a flop rather than bringing other topic in.
To add on, the new directors should never go behind actors and write a script for them. Rather, should first write a script and choose an actor that the script demands. For the film to work pan india, the making needs to be genuine, where you need to spend on frames rather than just the actors, and also make sure the writing suits the sensibilities of all the audience across and not just tamilians
fact bro
they just want to earn money with popular actor's
Yeah, these people most of times make movies as if TN is not getting developed because of Hindi people who has no take in TN.
- Always talking against Hindus and Hinduism as if no other religions have issues.
-Always showing corporate companies as Villains.
-Always showing that upper caste people are criminals. Making sure that a villian will always go to temple or perform poojai.
Movie yedungada nu sonnu political party oda advertising agency Vela partha pan India movie yeppovum pannamudiyadhu.
Ivanunga vidura ola TN la mattum dhan nambuvanga
@@pavan4707 yaaru da ni komali😂
@@pavan4707 You have said what i had in my mind all the time 🥲
Tamil cinema is driven by strong political ideology based on racism. Dravidian ideology is a racist ideology, whether or not it is right or wrong. For a film to work pan India, it needs to be positive, inclusive and less of a frustrated rant.
KGF 1, 2 Yash 8 Year's only one Project 🔥 Hardwork Dedication Never Filled 🔥
Not Like Tamil actors taking high salary and giving call sheet only 6 to 8 months,
And rrr which is 3 year project and same for bahubali lot of years call sheet not rushed in 7-8 months
Bahubali 6 year's, KGF 2 Yash giving
call sheet 8 Year's
@@pkcreation2210 not all actors are like that in tamilnadu 🙄. And we rule with our content we have many good flims. Maybe our commercial films haven't gone well. But in this same year we made tremendous flims like Rocky, sarpetta parambarai(which was enjoyed all over India), tanakaran etc. It doesn't matter if our commercial flims win or not. We the tamil cinema industry is slowly turning like Malayalam industry ( the industry with low to no commercial films and more good flims).
Tamil movies are full of paasam.
Paasamwood
@@Sujeesh_Bhosri poda punda
Only 3 things to implement for a healthy cinema
1) The Lead has to be chosen based on the script and not writing a script based on the Lead
2) The writing has to be done by the director him/herself and there has to be ample time taken to write rather than rushing within a timeline (Nelson proudly said he takes only 3 months to write a script, which is ok for a small project but will turn out to be a disaster for a big one)
3) Most importantly, the salary of the Hero should not be more than 40% of the total budget framed. If the movie turns out to be a Hit, let the Hero & producer sign up a MOU for sharing a certain amount of profit else the Hero will have to settle down with the salary that's already paid. By this, there will be more space to spend on creativity/innovations and more technicians/junior artists can be hired which means everyone working around the industry will survive.
Bottom line : Valimai & Beast are serious wake up calls for Tamil creaters that the viewers/fans are more interested in content than appreciating their Hero's screen presence alone
Also lack of promotion in hindi belt....
If movies need to earn 1000 crores like bahubali Or kgf they need to really promote their movies in the hindi belt just like shankar did in 2.0
cmon bro u cant compare valimai to beast, valimai had ntg , even performce wise it was stupid
@@rznotorious6103 bro it's not about comparing, the point I'm trying to make is that the creators shouldn't relie on the stardom/fan following alone but rather concentrate on the content and figure out how to fit the artist in it. If the money invested on creativity is higher than the hero's salary and if the antagonist's character is written well, no movie will fail... Cheers
@@balsaran8866 i completely agree with ur point, as a ardent vijay fan, i always maintained we cant compare beast with kgf 2 cuz kgf is a huge scale movie with a big budget and stuff and it came as a huge surprise to me to learn that actually beast had a budget of 150 cr to kgf’s 100 cr . Then it got me wondering how in earth did they spend 150 cr in that movie and then got to know vijay’s salary alone is 80-100 cr.
now i have to say its time we stop worshiping these hero cuz there ntg to celebrate in guys who are earning 100crs, leaving the directors to work with half their salary on the movie resulting in sub par movies.
@@rznotorious6103 You are absolutely right and that's exactly what I am trying to convey. If Vijay's films has that huge business scope, no harm in he demanding 100cr but at the same time, atleast 120-150cr should be invested on content and production can even take a year to complete (anyways Ajith/Vijay are doing only one project an year) that may turn out to be a PAN India movie...simple👍
One more important thing, all these pan India movies took years, for example KGF in total took 8 years, Nelson had only 6 months to make Beast.
But the profit in return is great
I'm from Karnataka but I agree that : Kollywood is No. 1 in BGM'S. No industry can overtake it
Tamil movies are already reaching worldwide..but if need a film that collects 500-1000cr worldwide like RRR, PK & KGF then our top stars like ajith and Vijay should break boundaries and do movies based on good script..they have the worldwide market to bring Tamil movies to wider audiences but they will not do any experimental scripts due to their 2 days fans..they rather play safe and stick to the same formula..
What do you think about Karthi's "Kaithi"? Is it a commercial film, or genre based director's cut? I think creative freedom was offered to Lokesh in better manner as compared to Master. Moreover, Genre based filmmaking directors can make films accordingly, rather than doing with big stars. What do you think about it aakash?
So true. Arya va sarpattai la kabilan ah mattum thaan kattunanga, Karthi ah kaithi la delli ah mattum thaan pathanga, dhanush ah asuran la sivasaami ya mattum thaan pathanga adhu yen ah director avangala Kabilan, Delli, sivasaami ah mattum thaan katta try pannanga but periya stars avangala andha characters ah katturatha vida Vijay, Ajith Rajini ah thaan katta director try panna start panniduranga. Directors periya actors kitta ponathum avangalae actors ah directors ah vida periya aalunga nu feel panna start pannitta aparam eppadi andha director nenaichathu katta mudiyum. Vijay Ajith Rajini ya yum characters ah director katta try pannatha varaikkum idhu ippadi thaan pogum. Beast la Vijay ah veeraraghavan ah mattum katta try pannirundha nalla irundhurukkum. Ana Nelson Vijay ah Vijay ah katta neraya try pannathaala nalla illama pochu. Director eppa thanna oru periya actor oda fan boy ah illama creator ah actor ah eppadi use pannalaam nu paakura varaikkum idhu next stage ku pogathu.
look around, even in this comment section. they dont know whats happening and why they need to argue or when. they just wana say something just because they can. it will take another 100 years for this ppl to make a movie like super deluxe a 100cr blockbuster and vijay ajith movies a 20cr flop movie due to same storyline.
நல்ல படம்னா பெரிய hero நடுச்சா மட்டும்தானா.. சார்பாட்டா பரம்பரை இப்போ டானாகரன் இப்படி நல்ல கதை அம்சம் கொண்ட படம் வந்துடுத்தா இருக்கு
Aana athukku pan Indian view kedaikkanumna oru well faced popular actor nadikkanum
Bro jaibhem
பெரிய ஹீரோஸ் சர்பேட்ட, கடைசி விவசாயி நடிக்கலையே, ராம் சரண், ntr க்கு நடந்த மேஜிக் இங்க ஒர்கவுட் ஆக மாட்டிங்கிது.
Exactly....sarpatta vanthapo toofaan nu oru Hindi padam vanthuchu...aana pudungitu pochu...ithuve sarpatta periya actor nadichu pan India release aairuntha namakkum oru kgf kedachrukum
Tanakkaran doesn't have any commercial elements I don't like such movies
Tamil industry has produced great movies since 100 years. Respect and salute from Karnataka. You will also produce pan india movies soon.
First oru movie ya movie yaa paakanum. Second director oda vision la movies varanum. Avangalukku creative freedom and technical skill irundhaal mattumthaa oru nalla padam varum. Budget ellaam secondry thaa
Promotion seri illa
Ivangalukku evalo sonallum puriyaathu.... waste...
@@bernards6985 movie itself isn't good then what's the use of promotion?
Ponniyin selvan, Vikram, Vaadivasal ennoda opinion la intha 3 la ethana 1 tamil cinema kaapathumnu namburen atha vitta Thalapathy 67 and Thala61 100% Loki and H. Vinoth movie ya iruntha kaapathum ippo thaiku atleast Vetri maran, loki, H.Vionth nalla movie pannanum
yes 100% director padam venum without influence of star
@@br3759 yes
Ponniyian selvan super noval story
Padam mattum super ah edutha avalo dan ellam movium beat pannidum 100%
@@br3759 adhu indha stars vachu mudiyathu....actors dhan vendum
Hope eh vaikadhinga😥
I don't know why Tamil film industry is even talking about this issue. They have always been best. It's just a phase. I have watched more Tamil movies in theaters than Kannada movie since 2000's and proudly brag about Tamil films in sydney..just relax.. one or two big Tamil films can bring back the glory of Tamil films. It's just around the corners .
Well said bro..one off is the first official kannada movie spoken outside karnataka..tamil cinema has been ruling as directly released tamil movie in karnataka for decades
Problem is with us. Directors are trying to satisfy us over story and there is no time for a directors to develop story and lack of writers in tamil cinema that's why we are losing flavours. So my opinion is we have to adapt hollywood system.
Super observation, genuine review bro 👏💯 yar accept panalanalum itha unmai ..💯
Endhiran is the last pan indian tamil movie that impress over all audience from all over the world. After that I and 2 .o didnt satisfied us. We would like to change tamil cinema from now onwards
Bro actor ha agunum na step by step ena pananum bu solunga bro . Oru actor kaga quality and edula demand panalam nu solunga bro please ethu enoda eequest
Just because One kannada film got pan Indian reach doesn't give us any right to slam Tamil industry as a whole. Tamil films were always appreciated and aspired many Indian film industries. Pan Indian is not perfect example of film making, it is to present a relevant topic desired by a director at the right way. Tamil directors have proved that many times.
No. 1 Reason is Tamil Audience👍 im not comparing but if u see other state people, they always support and appreciating if a director wanna come up with a new things or new ideas with their heroes.. But Tamil people less support if a director trying something different to their stars, they always wanna see the same style and acting of their star..😑 thats why every director likes to work on other state bcoz those people are so apprecitable.. Even Shankar himself ignore to do tamil film and started to do film on other state👍...
Creative director should not be restricted to particular region.....Sankar is better director than Rajamouli.....his movies are matured than Rajamouli's...Problem is with Tamil audience.....I heard....Vijay charges 100 crores for movies and his movies do business of 200 to 300 crores only in Tamilnadu..that's the dumbest thing after Marvel's fandom happened to any industry..
@@sanjayVlogs491 yes, 2.0 villain exist bcoz of his athma😂 dont compared bro.. Both r great and matured.. Read again what i said,,
@@jahirhussein3206 🤣🤣🤣🤣,,I never seen such cringe,, better we can call 2.0 a horror ,super natural film..
Simple actor’s salary is the reason . Maximum amount is spent for lead actor’s revenue. How can you make a quality movie if you don’t spent on making of the movie .
Conflict is really lacking in Beast. I did not feel tensed in the whole movie. In both Thuppakki and Kaththi, there is a time when we feel the protagonist got cornered. I didn't get that while watching Beast. The villain ia not menacing enough and feels wasted. Because he is not doing anything evil or smart plays to threaten the hero.
To much plot armor. If u see most hit movies hollywood super hits. Kgf. Rrr. Bahubali everyone of them suffers and plot armor isn't that super heavy which makes u feel there struggle
Content is king... Story, screenplay ku importance kodukkanum...
Jeans, Jai Bhem, Asuran, Thani Oruvan, Super Delux are deserve to be PAN India category
Yes bro if its pan India sure it collects more then 800cr
Even Sarpatta parambarai all characters were given importance and the Raw feel of boxing.
@@replyrubi But it had a caste angle bro..It won't work beyond Tamil Nadu
enna Jaibhemm aaa?? funny the film producer made few crores, movie team has not met parvathi before or after release....
after raghava said hewill build a house.. then nly surya placed 10L in FD (not given to paravathi), on;y 4500 ruppess she will get.
how people are cheating innocents using Bheem name..
@@chevlott Sarpatta Parambarai la ena caste angle irukku?
We were the first to make pan India movies. Right from Appu Raja (Apoorva Sogadharargal) to Roja to Hindustani (Indian), Tamil movies set the path for others to follow. The current craze for KGF and RRR is magnified due to social media. Of course there was also no social media then to coin the term pan India 🙄.
Everything changes as time passes and we have to operate accordingly.
If you still think of past, you can't go forward.
I mean to say that currently there are no tamil directors who can think out of box to do PAN india movie. Moreover there is no content and story which appeals to ppl of entire india from tamil directors .
I see that poniyyan selvan is also mostly related to deep tamil culture and it may not appeal to ppl outside TN . Moreover hero's salary in kollywood is so high such that even bollywood hero's do not take such huge renumeration. Budget can't alone bring out creativty . It needs skills, time, proper execution , top notch technicians , and finally the story/script created by director.
All these are lacking in tamil directors who work with big hero's.
You don't need story, screenplay for pan indian movies just big budget larger than life crazy movies like kgf, bahubali and rrr... Movies like dasavatharam, vishwaroopam and hey ram won't work any more..
@@kempegowdakempa5782 I agree we need to change with the times. However I disagree on a couple of points. Tamil movies have some of the best technicians in India. Also, I don't think story/screenplay is stronger in RRR or KGF. There was lot of style and very little substance in those movies. Of course the producers knew how to sell the style and that is something that needs to be learnt. I would much rather that we produced Appu Raja, Hey Ram and Roja than Pushpa, RRR and KGF.
Our movies won't work with pan India audiences because the movies produced are either masala films or films with good story. Pan India audiences only want good entertainers look at KGF and RRR.
You think movies like kadaisi vivasayi, Jai bhim would work with the pan India audience.
@@hemanth8802 jai bhim suprisingly resonated with all audiences, north indians were in love with the movie but i do agree that other audiences are more drawn to entertainment rather than good content. kadaisi vivasyai wasnt even supported by tamil audience how do you expect the others to do so
I think Tamil industry was the first to make pan India movies with Roja or Bombay and similar movies..There were few years gap until Shankar Sir tried with Robot 2...its just a matter of time now...
In karnataka shanti kranti before Bombay, Rojas.
Much early kamal movies appu Raja Indian
Maniratnam Roja Bombay were all pan Indian
@@vijaysethupathi11 True... 👍
@@rudreshacharrudresh1836 Shanti Kranti was really big in Karnataka , but not sure if it was pan India... Great attempt though
@@abhishekmathad6953 but its budget was huge. Expensive film at that time in South india. It's all version are not released silmultaneously
Bro movies ah pathi vera lvl ah therinji vachirukeenga.. Movies related vedios Neraya poda try pannunga.. We r eargerly waiting😍🔥
Rajini - Endhiran, Shivaji
Vijay - Nanban, Thuppaki,Kathi
Ajith - Billa, Mankatha,veeram
Blockbuster movies. Edhana time venalum pakkalam. Ana ippo iruka movie 1 time Ku Mela pakka mudiyala. I am Vijay fan. Vijay Anna nadicha Nanban movie la avaraku mass sence irukarthu, entry normal la irukum. Athu la avaruku sandai poda theriyadhu mathri dhan Avaru character irunchi irundhalum andha movie pakka payagarama hit koduthuchi. Ippo Lokesh kanagaraj oda Thalapathi 67 la heroine, song ilanu songs kandipa andha movie come back irukum thalapathi ku
Which film industry has film like soorarai potru, jaibheem, sarpetta parambarai, otha seruppu, pariyerum perumal, asuran,karnan, peranbu,En 200 crore mele vasul pannadha padama adhu.. Cinemavule vetri tholvi sagajam.. Our tamil cinema is going good way.. Nowadays director are excellent in film making.. Don't compare tamil industry with other industry..
There are content movies in other industries too.
C/o Kancharapalam
Vedam
Awe
are few I watched in Telugu
Just bcz Telugu movies don’t have caste based movies, doesn’t mean they are bad.
Telangana region was not plagued as much by caste issues as other states in India. So naturally their stories and inspirations are much different.
@@Pradyumna-e8r but tamil cinema has good films high in number
Good for you, not for everyone. Telugu audience like positivity in movies. Even in sad movies, they can't digest bad ending.
Most content movies in telugu end happily unlike tamil movies.
@@Pradyumna-e8r yo dude
talk something Relevent
All caste fanatics movies, just to spark a emotional sensation among the general audiences and to capitalize on it
M frm kerala
U guys r so much love for patriotism
Tamil thaa ellam mattu language Ellam mokka anthamathiri point ellm avoid pann.
Ella language um respct pannu.
Even ettana tamil movies il english name vechurukke😁?
Quality movies il tamil thaa top🔥
But unka film industry il actors thaa stardom
Directors kidayath☹️
But mattavanka industry il directors thaa stardom🔥
yes bro....tamil industry la big hero vachu padam eduthaale podhum nallaa hit aayidum nu oru mentality iruku......
Im also kerala bro
Malayali spoted
I agree with u... Kadhaiku theva pattuchuna patriotism vaikalam... Thangamagan padathula oru dialogue varum paarunga ... Tamil naatla tamil thokkadhunu....🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
i watched full video he's not degrade any languages
Proper promotion is only solution for Tamil Pan Indian movies.
Tamil cinema will only improve when they encourage & cheer-up other actor who is talented & hardworking , its not about rajini, vijay & ajit ((((( . The actors like vikram , surya & Dhanush should get more spot lights coz they’re reall much deserved actors who really gave good movies & those movie have remaked in other languages us well !
Namma theatre la moodikitu padam paatha podhum namma chinna vishayathuku kooda over excited avurathu thaa thappu nalla illana nalla illada nu silent iruntha podhum athukaga paakalam ithukaaga paakalam nu namma adjust avuradhu tha thappu
Bro!!! Yen manasula irukuradhu apidiye pesuringa!! Sema bro!
Enthiran, dasavatharam, vishwaroopam (2013), it's been 9 years.. but Telugu Kannada cinema ve ippo thana Vara arambichirukanga... Ellarume Ella time un form la iruka mudiyathu... Namma evlo varsham pan indian movies ah hold pannitu irunthom, 2015 la irunthu thana Kai maariruku athukulla ore padatha vechi Tamil cinema la pan Indian concept ae varathu nu solrathu la mutta thanam
Especially enthiran
இப்போ irukura movies la hero kku mattum than story irukku no others
@@rajeshrajesh7671 heroes na Ajith Vijay mattum inga heroes illa, surya did soorarai pottru, jhai bheem, Dhanush did asuran, karnan and vada Chennai (which literally had tonnes of other senior actors for more than half of the film), simbu did maanadu... Poona Kanna moodina ulagam iruttu aagathu... Ram Charan, prabhas, ntr yen Yash kooda intha maari mitha side actors ku space thara Nalla script la Panna matanga pannavum mudiyathu... Ungaluku vena intha masala kuppaiye periya budget la vfx la add panni kudutha pudichirukalam aana Tamil audience ellarum apidi kidaiyathu
@@sureshraghul2715 bro i want to be a director so நானும் இத தா எதிர் pakuren
@@sureshraghul2715 but இங்க எந்த producer accept panranga
what about dhasavadharam , vishwaroopam?
Agreed♥️
Beast KGF koode irangiyathu nallatha pochu.. Oru puthu yosana vanthidichu (audience manasilu) KGF oru lesson tha.. Pan indian movie eppadi edukkanontru KGF e paathu kathukonke...
What I feel about Tamil Movies not being able to make Pan India Movies which can impact like what Telugu & Kannada Industry does, is the lack of Superstars coming out of their shell to promote their movies in North, i get it they are huge Stars in their States & other regions, but in North "things which is seen a lot is responsible why it's bought" it is something like that, plus Tamil Cinemakers should focus more bringing one story for breaking out all region and etc, with good dubbing in Music, Dialouges, and talking about Creativity Tamil Movies caters only Tamil Audience but over time if they bring the topic for everyone, it will be relatable eventhough the character is based in Chennai, people will relate and most importantly Tamil Audience should co-operate with Hindi Versions of Their Superstar's Movies, as well as watching Hindi Movies out their it will do the job greatly. As a guy from North i have utmost love for Tamil Cinema, i hope one day Tamil Movies make some Super Good Pan India Movies
Vikram movie (kamal)makes first pan India movie..from tamil industry
that is not a pan indian movie
@@hustler2373 nee yaruda comali...poi mothalla olunga news collect panni tu vada dei
@@wzimpact8832 bro ella lang la dub PANNI release panna mattum pothathu promotion NALLA pannanum story nalla irukanum Ella lang MAKKAL ku connect aagur mathiri irukanum illana nalla promote Pannanum
But tamil films are failed in that point ❤️❤️
@@perfectt0812 bro kamal sir ku theriyathu cini field la onnume illa atha na sollitha ongalukku theriyanumna avasiyam illa antha script um periya expirment Loki sollirukaru athu ellarukkume same emotional varra mariyana scriptha promotion epdi pannanumnu kamal sir ku yarume solli tharavendiyathu illa avaru 10 years advance save tha iruparu...bro
@@wzimpact8832 let's see bro how it's performing in other states ❤️❤️ on june 3rd Appadi entha film ku bro avaru athigam promotion pannaru Can you say
Guys....I am a kannadiga...since childhood I have seen some tamil movies....even like some of the songs....rasaathi unne....senthoora poove....thiruda thiruda etc.
BUT..in all tamil movies are just hero centric....content is strong only in some of the movies...not all movies are technically strong...So let us face the facts....
in Kannada good movies have come but off late really technically strong content movies are coming out...you can check out Rangitharanga...
Now coming to the question why tamil movie would be difficult to make pan india..is because you portray too much of local culture and mannerism...this will be not accepted in other parts of the country....secondly Tamil directors should think that they are making an INDIAN movie...not a tamil movie for local audience
My favorite tamil actor is Sivakarthikeyan....why he is not promoted or supported....he needs to be supported...
@@MOULIsVentures kanndigas always creating issues with tamil movies in karnataka
Sarpatta
Vada Chennai
Aasuren
Manadu
Soorarai Pottru
Jai Bhim
All these Film got Applause by World Wide even Filmed in Many Film festival accross the Globe.
Edhuku mela oru Film Industry Enna Pannanum !
Pan India or Pan World film dhan padam nu kidaiyadhu.
If you Avengers it has highest collection in last 5 years but it does not mean that it is World Class film. Its commercial film. Only commercial can get Pan India or Pan World reception because it is loved common people for entertainment purpose.
Tamil Film industry Narrative Changed long ago.
too much of socialism in tamil films these days. all the movies you mentioned are leftist oriented movies except manadu even there you have unnecessary social message. I am paying my hard earned money to enjoy not to get lectured on caste, poverty and socialism.
Movies like Veeram, Viswasam, Mersal were strictly average but became industry hits. So audience are also responsible.
Very very very important points
1. Marketing - in West and North region
2. Promotion - very difficult for tamil industry to make a strong promotion in hindi belt region
3. Universal story - not regional oriented
right
Let's see if Mani sir can create the magic with "PONNIYIN SELVAN". I am afriad that too many characters may confuse the audieance.
Hoepfully it is not treated like a TV or web series.
It works for webseries
For movie I don't know
It won't work like Bahubali...India has dumb audience
I am scared of Maniratnam, because most of his flims would only focus on 2-4 characters, he's very good at that, but handling so many starcast and giving characters to them in a 3 hour movie is very hard, even director like Rajamouli said he struggled to balance Ram Charan and NTR character, they took most of the screentime, while ignoring Alia Bhatt, Samuthirakani and the British Villain character
Ivanuga vandha pudhusula Ayirthil oruvan tamilyey purilayala nu sonnanuga ponniyan selvan vera thuya tamil, vita subtitles ketalum kepanga
@@vigneshs5033 😂
BRO FIRnu oru tharamarana padam vanthichu athellam pan india release ah vittu semmaya irkum and sarpeta soorarai potru theatre pannathathu periya misatake athelam box office adichi norukki tamil cinema innum oru step mela poirukum and namma melayum sila thappu irku nalla padam varape kaithatama kaiyentha vitruvom 😢
Short film making best camera and also equipments video poduga bro
Even though the movie is good... The crew have to conduct press meet (director, hero, heroine, villain & important chracter) at all the dubbing language cities to help the movies to go to the audince directly....
I think Master was definetly a step in the right direction. I also think Kaththi was the best Vijay movie after Vijay's revival phase (Thuppakki - present)
Bro if I study commerce can I still take direct movies bro please tell
It's not like that Tamil cinema already produced pan India cinema.
Ajith last best film visvasam
Vijay master
Rajini 2.0
Dhanush asuran
Now days surya kamal simbhu after manadu are alive tamil industry want give
comeback
2.o vum pan India dhaan but Kamal romba munnadiye pan india trendset pantaru this is not new for Tamil cinema
I am from Bangalore and a Tamilian. First of all thank you for speaking my heart out. Rewind to 10 years ago almost every other film that used to release in tamil was really good irrespective of it being genre based or commercial. We are missing directors like KV Anand, Dharani, Vishnuvardhan. Since I was in my High school back then i had very limited access to go theatres and we used to watch movies on DVD's as and when it released. So many films have re-watch value which I still go and re-watch example Ayan, ko, dhil, Dhool, Ghilli, Sivaji etc. Over the years i became a film enthusiast. Now i am working, i spend good money per month on theatres and ott subscriptions. But eventually am i getting to consume good content from my own mother tongue? Not really!! And i am really worried about the future projects and baised fan reviews and ratings. I saw few meme pages trying hard to say that beast/valimai is doing really well at the BO. I mean the efforts put by these MCs is nowhere close to the efforts put by the makers i guess. And there is very backward and common thought like oh if a movie is bad we can directly release on OTT. If a really nice movie gets direct OTT relase then oh why this was released on OTT? Dude common OTT isn't coming free and your time is also precious. Good content should be made for OTT/theatres like wise. Totally agree on what you said, good writing, new setups, new geographies where the story is set should be explored. Example after Neerparavi i have never seen a good tamil film setup in the coastal region of Tamil Nadu. Vada Chennai was setup around the coasts but it delt with a different conflict all together. Thank you.
Eppidi neengal video edit pairingal? Ennaku learn pana asai.
Enthiran did it way back. So do not tell me that Tamil industry can't produce pan Indian films. Nowadays, the script is being written with lead in mind but the script should be good irrespective of the lead actor. Actor must commit to script which makes Tamil cinema good irrespective of one's salary. If they do this right, we will be unstoppable.
who said only vijay, ajith and rajini only famous even suriya vikram and others too why other actors can't do mass films?
Surprisingly, This was a pretty good review. Well thought out & articulated. Keep it up bro, it's important for people to be educated in regards with movies too & I'm glad someone is there to do that for the tamil audience.
All languages should be treated equally.. then There will be a massive success 🔥🔥
Bro oru 150 crore movie budget la 100 crore hero's vanguranga 20 to 30 crore artists director ku , miccho kasa vecchittu serial than kuduka mudiyum.....
Tamilnadu is becoming a island on it's own.Outsiders not allowed only TN people to the TN people by the TN people .... Telugu and now Kannada industry are more open to other industries.
Its good locally also but bad to larger audience.
How will you grow??
Story is more important
Then only hero
But india mistake only see the actor
Beautiful analysis brother!
Keep it up.
First thing is that a pan Indian films are being made every year but a successful box office blockbuster pan Indian movie only comes rarely. Budget or stardom aren't the factors for a successful pan Indian movie. Prabhas was not the no1 star in Telugu and neither was Yash. Bahubali's big budget was required for the story and KGF2's 100 crore is not that much a big budget nowadays. In fact casting industry superstars can also be a problem because they can eat up most of the budget of the movie. If Vijay was cast in KGF the budget would have been 200 crores.
After Bahubali, Prabhas's next 2 pan Indian big budget movies failed at the box office. So the big budget is not the first factor and neither are their stardom to ensure the movie to be a success.
The first factor is a director with a vision. There wont be a Baahubali without Rajamouli and there wont be a KGF without Prashant Neel. There is a uniqueness in vision to all successful Pan Indian movies. Second is that the story should be able to connect with entire India and not just there own states. Baahubali was Fictional Hindu Indian Mythological Epic- can work anywhere in India, For KGF it was the rise of a don in a fictional gold smuggling underworld. Other than language there was no Karanataka specific culture involved in the movie. The story could work anywhere in India. Third is how engaging you make the story. How well it is written and how the director is able to make it interesting and exciting. Fourth is the emotional factor, there has to be moments in the film where the audience can connect emotionally with the film and feel sad and cry or pumped up and excited.
Its ok that a fan boy direct their favorite superstars, but he should challenge his superstars in doing some new things he hasn't done before in his filmography (eg: ajith in mangatha, rajini in petta).
Bro your Right.... You see KAIDHI movie from Karthik no songs no heroine..... But worth watching movie.... Fans love that kind of movies
Tamil cinema has produced a lot of movies that have content that can speak globally such as Kadaisi vivasaayi, Rocky, Sarpatta paramabari etc., These movies are not considered as pan-indian movies simply because they were not promoted in that way. But, am sure if any movie goer watches these movies, they will love it. The only failure I see in Beast is that the movie that got tagged as a pan-indian movie and was not upto the mark compared to KGF-2.
What do u mean by saying that tamil cinema hasn't produced brilliant movies?? Absolutely wrong. Even Allu Arjun said in an interview that he loved tamil movies because of the content. So dont come out with this nonsense that tamil cinema cant produce good movies. So what's the hype now???. Must all movies be like Kgf ???
Super ,, Thalaiva correct aa pesa irukaa nee,, mathi mathi kollywood fight pani oruu porajunam ilaa thalaivaa ,, No 1 pan Indian movie aa Kollywood movie Future laa irukkanum ,, yen Asai athu than thalaivaa
Super ah explain pannengu bro.
The main reason behind this is fan war...while comparing to other industries like telgu and kannada they came together for supporting their movies...in tamil if vijay movie releases ajith fans degrading it and ajith movie releases vijay fans degrading it...their are also another reasons that tamil industry started doing social movies more comparing to commercial movie... This is also a major issue .tamil industry also lagging good writers☝️
Bro super bro 💯 nalla pesuringa unga speech enaku pudhusa irundhuchi ni adudhu enna pannalum ni nalla varuvinga all the best bro 😎
Completely Agreed 💯💯
07:54 True bro. Film crew is trying to win a battle, but losing the war
Manaadu
Ratsaaan
Kaithi
These films has pan India potential
Excellent thought of views and very genuine. What you are saying is true appreciate it
Now a days tamil films lack in promotion
Well said💥💥💥
Bro I agree with your point. however, I think Tamil movie to make a good screenplay and character writing. for example, I take valimai movie as an example. Ajith is a supercop Vs satan adimaigal. How creative we can write the scence but in the movie just focus on motor chasing which lead to failure creating an magic. I just take on example of Tamil movie which is potentially pan India movie is thani oruvan. the movie creates surprises in story telling and very importantly villian performance. Same goes to maanadu. Rather than glorify the stardom, the story should be focus on s issue and how it impacts each of characters in the movie
what..... I'm from Karnataka, before bahubali, kgf.. etc movies, tamil industry is the first one to produce Pan India movie... shivaji, robot, I,... etc...
Neenga sonna money heist point crtu bro Namma athelam pathutu tamil la expect pannumbothu nadaka matinguthu
Ak next movie same like heist
@@charanks2377 Namma expect panna mari irukuma nu than theriyala
Bro neega sollurathu crt thaa bro but creativity work aagathatu thaa problem yea like beast laam palaiya concept uh vijaykanth, arjun, mani ratnam laa panni terumpi vijay vachu and oru movie nu edutukitha ellarum rasikira maatri irrukanum oru set of peoples ahh dominate pannura maatri irruka kuthathu athu naala tha Tamil industry naala pan indian flims ahh kodukka mudiyla 🤧 and audience vanthu ella flim aiyum support pannanum oru groups fulla oru actor padam mattum tha paapen nu irrutha Telugu and kannada industry thaa famous aagumea tavira namma apptiyea thaa irrupoam
I don't think what happened to you guys. With a single films you cannot judge the whole Tamil cinema's potential. A pan Indian film is not made to become pan Indian,the content makes all people to watch it irrespective of the language. Why you did not take Vetrimaran , Parthiban , bala etc films into account. Gangs of Wasseypur actually ispired from subramaniapuram. Ok. Leave it these are old movies. What about kadaisi vivasayi.. did we celebrate this movie which got 9.1 IMDb rating. Rajini vijay Ajith are not faces of Tamil cinema. It is the producer's efforts that makes a good movie to reach all over the world.
Rajanikanth is the first pan India Superstar with Shankar Sir now at present in Tamilnadu the pan India starts will be Surya...and Danush..
Ajit Sir and Vijay Sir they cant become pan India...in north belt they wont like ..
They like Danush Surya Sir..
But but but now Yash Rockey bhai is a universal Super star orginal pan India.
Garuda Gamana Vrishabha Vahana please do the analysis or anything. This movie is fantastic, if you speak in the channel, the movie got deserves it. Guys please say to Anna.
One of the thirdcalss movie is GGVV ...why you guys Overrating that shitt ? It's a baseless Rowdyism story movie that's it
Everyone knows which one is correct 🥱.
@@srivenkatesh3450 Yeah everyone knows ..GGVV it's a shitt ....what's the difference between salaga and GGVV
@@_.FOX._ IMDb ratings says all...
@@srivenkatesh3450 single theater collection says all
all the points you said was 100% true and valid , I accept with your view anna, beast had potential with its script , but maybe the writing would be somewhere gone low , on the other hand , the directors would also go through some struggle when they needed to pack their film both commercial and directors wish ............hope we get well written and commercially packed movies in future 🙂
Bro beast lam compare pannathu ga bro athu Nelson oda plus se comedy tha atha avaru vitutaru ana Lokesh antha mari illa...avaru expirment script panrathutha avaroda plus athuvum avaru vayalaiye sollitaru..vikram apdithanu athu mattum illa bro kamal sir satharanam entha script tume ok panna mataru bro ithula periya impact irukku..
Lokesh ethayume efuthom kavuthomnu panna mataru bro avaroda fans lla moviyume apdi tha nalla detailing oda tha pannuvaru ithula Kamal irukurathu periya plus athukumela antha padam sure hit nu antha shooting spot la irukura ellarum solla arampichutanga neenga venumna parunga June 3 ithukku neenga reply pannanum bro na se nnathu unmai na..
To my opinion tamil cinema lost its track last 7-8 yrs..now movies based on caste, critising, political ideology, influence, inference, half baked truth, creating controversy before release..beoc zof this only few set of ppl r into threaters..the universal appeal, family audience movies r missing..recent release Surya ET movie flop had bad opening becoz few ppl avoided the movie
First of all get rid of Vijay, he cannot be accepted as hero outside TN. Same old constipated expression . Give chance to new faces. Telugu is giving massive hits, now Kannada joined them with KGF to give massive hit, Kerlala has always been giving good content only TN is lacking in this race, no big hit or recognition at pan india level.
Get rid of vijay ? Lmao it's just like saying get rid of Salman Khan from bollywood which would never happen
Yeah as if Ajith is will become India's Tom Cruise
Extreme Tamil vaadam is the real reason. Ur ego can never make u you a winner
Fan service over actually good writing, and big actors demanding a huge salary.
10.28 bro pushpa nalla padama bro unaku pan india movie avlo thane atha telugu masala padatham 5 language la dub panni vittuthaanunga
Adhu hindi kaaranungaluku avanga padam mariye irrukune paathu,Tamil la samantha kaga pathu apdiye hit aayiruchu😑😑😑
@@Winnerrr-nz7pm athu oru movie ya paatha beast hey 100times better bro
@@vignesh2441 😂😂😂😂 true bro
Pushpa enter bollywood 100 crore club 108 crore
@@gokul7053 athuku enna ippo
Facts brother. Ultra unmaigal.
Indian , jeans, Narayan, appu raja, endhiran , 2.0, shankar movies are all pan India movies. Tamil movies have made first pan India movies from south industries. Kamal Hassan was first pan India hero
Yes bro. Treatment point which you said is valid. I too expect new concepts, unexpected twists in movies... Directors should be the fan of their Script mainly and not the hero. Tamil audience huh underestimate panraanga cinema directors. ☹️
Jrntr king of commercial movies seriously has chosen versatile social mass movies in the last 7 years
Temper (2015)
Naanaku prematho (2016)
Janatha garage ( 2016)
Jai lava kusa (2017)
Aravinda sametha (2018)
Rudhram Ranam Routhiram RRR (2022)
6 blockbusters for NTR
Before Temper many of his flims flopped
Worthless
9:36 perfect broo💯
KGF 2 Mari Oru Padam 1000cr Adikumpothu Kaithi , Vikram Padam Ellam Adikanum