Triumph Tiger 660 v Yamaha Tracer 7 - Comparison Review
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The middle weight all-rounder market is fiercely competitive - here's my take on how the front runners stack up comparing the new Triumph Tiger 660 with the Yamaha Tracer 7......
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I have a feeling that the new, updated for 2023 Tracer 7 may now be the winner as they have updated and improved the suspension, make the front brakes larger and have included a colour TFT dash.
If only it had the tiger sports engine it would be hands down best in class, but I think the engine of the tiger sport still wins out unless you're a fan of twins
@@Fromatic It's always going to be subjective as to what the individual prefers... but there is a reason the Tracer far outsells the Tiger. I have known a few Tracer owners who bought or at least tried the Tiger and weren't impressed with the engine and that the bike overall just never wow'd them... they've all said that the Tracer, while more budget especially in it's finish is by far the more exciting bike to ride.
@@PokerMuppet that's fair enough, I haven't ridden either yet but went to look at a tiger sport at a triumph showroom yesterday and was a little disappointed by how small it felt/looked in person, I'll have to look at a tracer 7 in person
Both great bikes but it's the Triumph for me. The Triple engine would sway it... and less objectively, its a Triumph (not that I've anything against Yamaha's).
On a different note... what is the thing with manufacturers offering expensive optional "comfort seats". If a bike has a need for a comfort seat, then why not just put it in the bike to start with, instead of using it as yet another opportunity to over-charge the customer for accessories.
Hear hear to that!
@@TheMissendenFlyer here, here indeed
@@jimmys6566 There, there.
@@otaupdate3151 now, now!
I would think it's to keep the base price lower. But I agree a bike (especially this type of bike) should come standard with a good seat.
Great review. I test rode both bikes. I thought the Yamaha engine was great but the Tiger was the total package. It has slipper clutch, traction control and rider modes - none of which is provided on the Tracer. For me the wind protection was also better, and the luggage system neater on the Triumph . No surprises which one I eventually bought! Just loving that triple engine - no regrets :)
Enjoy Nick!
Still no regrets 1 year later? I'm in the same boat, love the styling of the tracer, but the engine of the tiger sport, and think that's the way I want to go as I already ride a parallel twin and want something smoother sounding/feeling
I was interested in buying either the Tracer 7 or 660. 2 months later still waiting for Triumph to ring me back re a test ride.
Guess what? I bought a Tracer 7. Brilliant bike
Nice one…
I love my Tiger 660. I fell for the looks, the ability for the up and down quickshifter, the triple sound and the excellent solution for panniers. The Tracer 7 is an excellent bike also, but in my heart, the Tiger was the one for me.
+1. I traded-in my Bonneville T120 (a bike I liked looking at, more than riding) for a TS660. This little thing is soooo much fun on a twisty road. Being it's a middle-weight bike, I just rev the s&^% out of it, and let it scream! Hilarious fun, supremely comfortable rider-triangle, and a great price for what you get.
@@thumperjdm Imho the T660 is better value for money than the Tracer7
A really good comparison and review. My personal choice would be the Triumph, because i prefer the looks of it. I`m not into a lot of the modern looking machines, the MT07 was a really great bike, a good looking machine, but then they updated it and put a bloody awful looking headlight on it. If the Triumph was`nt available, i`d pick the Tracer 7 over all the rest, Yamaha are by far and away, the best of the Japanese big 4 at the moment, and their range proves it, though Kawasaki are very close in second place, but the Versys 650 just does`nt do it for me, no matter how much of a capable bike it is. It was also good that you did`nt go on about the lack of cruise control, i`ve never needed one on a bike, and never use the one in my car. Another good review.
I found the torque and engine character of the MT07 I passed my test on so much fun I can’t imagine liking the smoother engine more .
Good comparison. I have to agree with you, the Tiger has it by a nose. You couldn't get cigarette paper between bikes in this category now, it's almost impossible to find a bad one out there, and even the bad ones are good. I do like the new Tracer though, but if I was putting money down on one, I would probably spring the little extra and have the GT version just for the versatility.
These remind me a lot of my 2007 FZ6, the only bike I really regret selling. With the baffling decision not to import the Tracer-7, I guess I should take a gander at the Triumph. I'm still not convinced regarding Triumph's reliability. Then again, I have a KTM currently, so shouldn't be pointing fingers. 🙂
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Close call but I'd go with the Yamaha. My brand loyalty is divided; I've owned several of both over the years and I now have both a Yamaha XV920HR (cafe version of the venerable Virago V Twin) and a Bonneville T120. But my Yamaha is 41 years old and has been ABSOLUTLY TROUBLE FEE for four decades and is just a millimeter short of the new Bonnie in performance. Much as I love the New Bonneville, there have been a handfull of factory defects from the brakes to the shifter. The Yamaha's very, very long, term reputaion for bulit proof reliability tips the scale.
I owned the tracer 7 for about 6 moths and sold it... I found it so d*mn boring 😴 but that's taste.I also don't really like the fit and finish on Yamaha's the last +-10 years...
I've been told by a Triumph dealer that the Tiger 660 is made in Thailand (just like the Versys 650). So it should be better build than other Triumph's?
Facepalm...My xt600e has 170k km on the original engine, as it came out of the factory. So what? That's not a frame of reference for new yamahas which are of DOGSHT quality.
Yamaha quality these days is absolutely atrocious.
Not that triumph is any better but referring to a 40 year old bike as a testament to a brand's quality NOW is ridiculous man.
Hi Andy hope you're well mate.
Based upon most of your comparisons I tend to agree and would choose the 660 however the one thing I disagree on is the looks as I loved the look of the 660 as soon as I saw it and still do.
To me the Tracer looks like it's trying to hard to be a multistrada in that red colourway, which would explain why it is also a good looking bike! Cheers :)
He he…
Only the Tiger 660 offered here in Canada so the choice between these two is easy I suppose. I love the integrated luggage rails in the Tiger and wish more sports/adventure touring bikes had something similar. Side case mounting racks look pretty bad without the bags mounted. Well done to Triumph on this one.
Strange comment since like you said the Tracer isn't offered in Canada lol
I am riding the Tiger 660 in Vietnam with big love. So beautiful when standing in garage, so exciting when riding with the triple sound. I changed to Pirelli block tyre. It’s perfect for the poor road conditions riddled with sands and holes and occasionally bombarded by tropical rain here.
Great comparison. As you said, can’t go wrong with either bike!
I am a huge fan of the Tiger 660. Ridden it twice now and I find the engine exhilarating, and the handling on back roads simply fantastic. The Yamaha is a great looking machine, but for me, the Tiger's triple is far more engaging. That said, the Yam will certainly appeal to the kind of riders who want a back to basics bike with hardly any electronics!
Both can be fitted with panniers or/and topbox they are obviously expected to tour, even two up, yet very few reviews mention max payload. The tracer 7 says 181Kg, the Tiger says 223Kg. Take from that what you want but someone like me who has a lot of relaxed muscles and carries a pillion touring I know which one wouldn't get a look-in straight out of the gate.
Thanks for that - very useful!
Good one
But
Carrying capacity?
I don't know about the Triumph but the max carrying capacity on the Yamaha is 166kg. I'm not heavy at 75kg, but when you add a pillion, and panniers with frames and maybe 8kg in each you're probably at the limit, and that's without a top box, which might be necessary with a passenger.
So as a 2up tourer on the Yamaha you have to go really light.
By comparison, the 700 Tenere is 189kg.
No-one, and non of the magazines give maximum gross weight. I wonder why?
If it needs another 5kg on the frame at manufacturer to make it strong enough, then do it.
But don't try to sell a bike as a two up tourer when it possibly isn't.
Small, but important point, for ne anyway.
Happy travels 👍
Yes good point….thanks for raising it.
Oh Andy i thank u verry much!! I was doubting between those to bikes and couldn’t find a good video on yt!!!
Thank u verry much
Would prefer the triple engine and for me the Triumph looks nicer, especially in the blue colour.
Since we can't get the Tracer 7 here in the US, glad to hear the you feel the 660 Tiger gets the nod.
Had a ride on my Tiger Sport 660 the other night. First time in nearly two months since a tour to Scotland. Forgot how good it is.
Thanks for posting this video. Very timely as both are in my sights as a potential 'next bike'. I do wonder what else Triumph have up their sleeves for this platform, surely there must be a 660 ADV coming eventually?
Love both bikes. Both nimble, great engines and gearbox. The Tracer 7 in Australia comes with a TFT and optional quick shifter. We do not have a close Triumph dealer so it's the tracer for me.
Really good review I like this format😎🇨🇦
Thanks!
Loved this episode I think I would go for the triumph. Because of the triple cylinder more free revving less vibration. I own a 2021-R1250RT and would like another one for short trips. The bmw is a bit heavy for me but love it for longer trips. Really liked the trip you just had on the Honda. We are planning a trip in 2023 if all goes well. England and Europe. All the best from Australia love your honest opinions of the bikes you test.
Thank you Peter!
I want a 900 in the same style, low slung exhaust etc.then I might go for one fingers crossed 🤞
Yeah, now you're talking, that would be a direct competitor to the tracer 9 gt and the bmw f900xr. I'd have a tiger 900 sport...17inch front wheel, racey fairing...boom!
Good review Andy glad to see you are giving both bikes the beans.
I'm so glad you liked the triumph 660 bike ,for me it's a time too buy British goods and good for jobs thanks
Check your grammar
I have the Tiger 660, the motor is amazing for its size. Coming from a V Strom 1000, the Tiger is much more fun to ride.
Picked up a 2024 Tiger 660 about 5 weeks ago.
Unfortunately, I went strictly off RUclips reviews. Dealer did NOT allow test drives and I did not know anyone that owned one.
Cons:
1st gear is absolutely USELESS
Excess heat from the engine to your legs
No cruise control
PISS POOR windscreen design
Violent wind buffeting 70mph+
Mirrors are far too short and vibrate, making your field of view blurry
Tank is not steal, limited magnetic tank options
Exhaust. Any aftermarket requires FULL exhaust switch, no slip on availability
Maintenance costs. Expect $400+ oil changes with double and triple those costs at 10k and 20k miles
Horrible resale value
My bike is a 2024. Walk out, over $10k TTL, freight, prep blah blah
4 weeks after purchase, the highest trade-in value offered was $5300
Pros
Torque
Comfort
Upright seating position
Looks
Triumph reliability
Would love to hear feedback about Tracer 7 owners or test rides
Oh dear - sorry to hear that….
Both bikes could be of serious consideration in the future, given the choice though, I'd go for the triumph.
Thinking of getting back into biking after a 30 year hiatus. Have been looking at both of these. Just got to persuade the other half which sadly isn't going well. Thanks for the comparison video. I'm leaning toward the Triumph.
Good choice!
Seriously close face to face! I agree re looks- I think the Tracer wins.
Glad we concur Freddie!
Always enjoy your videos very much. Regarding this one...since I prefer the looks of the Triumph, the choice is much easier for me (just purchased one for my wife this past weekend). :)
Hey TMF. The old Tracer 700 had crap suspension and gearbox. Yamaha have really addressed these issues and I think the Tracer 7 is an excellent all rounder.
Thanks for the quick review of both bikes. Really interesting, although given these are practical all rounders, it would have been useful to include a few practical aspects such as tank range, luggage, centre stand etc.
See my first ride videos for fuller reviews of each bike….
The bikes these days are all so good...Quite often I think it will come down to brand loyalty. I have owned a yamaha and had a bad experience, and that always puts me of the yamahas. (even though I am planning my next scooter to be the T max) It is undeniable that Triumph are producing amazing value for money bikes... So for me, I think I would go for the 660.
Yes on balance, me too….
Sentimentality also plays a big part. Dual sport bikes were often featured in 80s movies, e.g. Charlie Sheen plus an XL350R in The Wraith. So I had an XL250R as a teenager and now have an Africa Twin. It's no coincidence!
Very cool video Monsieur Missenden. I didn't realise how cool the Tracer looked, and inevitably it will be revised with a TFT. I must say though, even with an LCD screen on a bike, if the bike itself looks better when compared with another, the looks hold more weight in the decision for me too. Bonne continuation.
Yes looks are a big part of bike buying for me - sadly maybe even the biggest part!
Love both bikes, don't think you could go wrong with either bike. I'm in awe of your organisational skills as when you actually ride these bikes to when make and release them.
Cheers!
Phase 1 of my Tracer7 project just completed... and I put a fork leg through a brand new radiator...never rains but it pours, more work!(radiator guard was in the post too!!).
Glad it’s not just me that does that sort of thing!
Hi Andy Superb and honest as usual but could of done with a price comparison👍 keep up the Stirling work Daz
Pricing is in my first ride videos - but fair point for the comparison!
Great comparison! Although I much prefer the looks of the Tiger 660; the Tracer has a weird "blunt" look and gap between the side panel and nose pieces. Chacun a son gout as they say!
I agree with you on looks, it looks like a Ducati almost. It just needs a small “beak” , then👌. I had an MT07 and it was a great bike.
It would have been useful to have talked about luggage and how it fits and what it costs. Also centre stands.
I think you may have covered this in the individual reviews.
However a good comparison Andy and interesting to watch. Thank you
Great comparisons video, and I bet it was almost down to the toss of a coin. I tested the 660 when I was considering the 900gt pro, and thought it was a fantastic bike.
Great review Mr Flyer of both the Triumph Tiger and the Yamaha Tracer, it hard choice to choose between them both. I’ll have the free one which it is lol. Well we can only wish. I like you model motorbike collection in your studio they like mine.
I'd quite like the Tiger 660 but considering I can pick up a year old Tracer for £6k, it would be daft not to so I'm getting one.
Fair do's - both great bikes to be fair......
Great video. I have the Tiger Sport 660 and love it but agree the Tracer 7 look better.
Did I miss it, did you mention the price of each bike? In the real world 🌎 where we have to part with the shekels it’s about cost and if there is a difference between the two is the winner X-amount better than the other . Plus what deals are available in each bike. Can’t help thinking Yamaha may be more open to wheeling and dealing than Triumph, but I could be wrong. Top vid as always.
Prices were in my first ride reviews….
Would choose the Tracer 7 because that engine is much better sounding than a 3 cylinder. And while both look great, the Tracer is the best looking of the 2.
Fair enough!
I really don't think you can buy a bad bike nowadays 🤔
I really like the Yamaha, though im struggling to justify the extra spend over a Honda NX500
I have a Tracer 7 and love it .Couldn't get a test ride on a Triumph So had a spin on the Tracer .job done. Had A triumph Street Triple R great bike but time to slow down.
I asked Neevsie if he would go for 660 or Tracer9 and due to wind buffeting he said 660!! but im thinking for the same money as the 660 with the extras you would go for you can get a used R1200RS🤷♂
Thank you Mr Flyer, what a great comparison. Both of these bikes seem to be very popular atm and I can see why. When the time comes for me to slow down a bit and it's farewell to the "striple" r, these are just the sort of thing I shall be looking at. although they may well both be e-bikes by then lol. :>)
hi there .... great comparison ... for me also it's the Triumph (by far) I love the looks ... the brand .. the engine ... I ordered it a week ago but it's still stuck in registration cause it's a new model ....
can't wait for it to come
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Just finished watching your Arctic Circle trip..
Invite you to ride the roads sometime on this side of the world..
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Hi Grant - yes one day I’ll get under there to ride….it’s top of my list!
I know it's a very subjective thing but for me the Tiger's the better looking bike but great comparison test once again.
Fair enough - we all have different tastes, Amanda Holden v Kate Beckinsale….
Like the Tiger 660 but really smitten with the maple necked Strat - (just one more!)
Had a 765 R Street Triple ,thought i would miss the power .but apart from overtaking and lunacy the tracer 7 is better for me in every way. You can easily empty the tank 200 miles before you need a break.Never a had a twin before always had in line 4s.Given up chasing the horizon just enjoying the ride now
Thanks for this. Good to know. I planned to test ride both but found the Tracer 7 is no longer imported to New Zealand. Inexplicable. Easier for me I guess.
How strange!
Tough call. If you love Triumph, then the 660 is the one🥇But here in Aus, both are stupidly expensive for both LAMS motorcycles. Power reduced.
Did I see that Yamaha have cheaped out on the standard front forks (very dated) whereas the Triumph has USD's fitted.
Surely got to be a major difference there.
Yamaha forks are adjustable tho' .
Another great vid Andy have a triumph myself so would agree with you 👍
Glad we concur!
Like you I have had and love Triumph triples! But I go for the Yamaha, it just looks so much better
A good comparison video, as always fair and honest opinions.
I am keen to know what you was shooting the office section on, I could see your camera and mic set up in the corner which I am guessing you shoot the monthly mag on. Your screen looks curved, is that the case or is it the camera creating that look?
I use two GoPro 8’s, but recently have found that storage issues on my IPad, which I use for editing, has restricted the content I can work with.
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The screen is curved - all my videos are shot on GoPro
Nice comparison Andy..........I'm gonna test the Tiger Sport 660 soon, and choose between them as my next bike..........
I think like you said it will come down to if I prefer the twin character or the triple! (Properly the triple for the bit of extra top end reviness! 👌)
Which bike was your choice?
When I had a look at the Tiger 660, well they could improve the pillion seat, and it's a bit too high. Well according to Mrs Karl ( osh ) ! Otherwise I could have been interested.
So it's still the Tracer 9 GT that I'm really interested in. I NEED a 120 degree triple engine !
Oh man! I should have waited. I just picked up my brand new tracer 7 yesterday
Congratulations! It’s a fabulous machine and I’m sure you’ll love it - forget the 660 and enjoy your new bike!
I was very surprised you thought the Tracer was the better looking bike - I felt the tracer looked ....... ah strange. That aside I would go for the 660.
You forgot to mention the weight.. Tracer 7 is 10kg lighter which is quite a lot, and parts availability should be better too. For those two reasons I'd choose the Yamaha
My heart says Triumph my brain says Tracer, reliability and cost of ownership and that ultra bullet proof CP engine just pips it, great post
Fair dos - though I really don’t think reliability and cost of ownership is going to be much different…
Very close call, Think all the tech has put me off a bit, I have had prior bad luck with a couple of Tigers@@TheMissendenFlyer
I know Japanese bikes are reliable and well built but I have to say that they sometimes feel "cheap" when I ride them. I would go for the Triumph as well. We have a dealer issue in the Midwest USA with the Triumphs as several of the local dealers have dropped the brand due to conflicts with the manufacturer, or so they say.
Oh dear!
Test rode the triumph and tbh found the complete opposite with the 660 feeling flimsy and toy like .
Nice comparison TMF. Both nice bikes but the Triumph just seems a little bit classier & more desirable to me.
Yes it’s a very close call this one…
Great review sir!! Has to be the triumph for me, 🤙
And they both lack the cruise control even as an optional paid upgrade so you have to spend more money to get the next model up. When I e-mailed Tiger UK about it a couple of years ago they arrogantly replied most riders dont use it, on a bike that's good for touring..
Not a good answer that is it….
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah it didn't sound very professional..
Good extensive review.
Thank you
I would have to go with the triple.
If the tracer came to the US, I would give it a serious look. If the 660 had come with cruise control it would be in my garage now.
Why would you need Cruise Control on a motorcycle?
Mind you, I've never even owned a bike that had a radiator let alone Cruise Control...
@@kentishmale1969 , not a need, but a want for several reasons. When you set the cruise control you can now keep your eyes on the road instead of having to glance down periodically to make sure you're not accidentally speeding. To give your throttle hand a rest. Many of the same reasons people use it in cars. It is one of those things that you don't have to use, but it is nice to have. Not every road is a curvy road. You might have to ride on faster roads if you are touring or you will never get there. Holding the throttle for 10 hours can get tiring.
What is it with POOR OEM windscreens??? From my perspective, a windscreen in it's low position should keep wind off of my chest and in it's raised position, should direct the wind to the top of my helmet. If it can't achieve that, then don't have one.
No centerstand. And no rear mudguard.
I'm having the exact same quandry. I've just passed my theory test and have my DAS booked. Question is which bike will I go for the Tiger or the Tracer.... Triumph has a good community around it and a lot of work friends ride Triumphs, plus you have that tripple engine. The Yamaha on the other hand looks better imo and you can possibly get a better deal.
You can't go wrong with either!
Hi TMF, loving your Alaskan adventures, I'm working in Anchorage at the moment & boy is it cold now, I can't wait to get back to warm Blighty! If you have any contacts at Triumph maybe you could prod them on the following. Although the Tiger 660 Sport is a great bike perhaps for rookies etc., we can't understand why they didn't bring out a higher-specced version using the 765 engine & a competitor say to the Tracer 9GT? The 660 is just underpowered for me (touring, two up) & I'd like the addition of lean-sensitive TC & ABS etc., etc. We understand that the price point would be higher but there is certainly a gap in the marketplace for Triumph to enter here. I've spoken to all my mates & we'd be very happy to buy a bike from Triumph of this spec & pay good money for it too if they could keep it in the ballpark figures of the Tracer 9GT or the Kawasaki Versys 1000.
Yes a tiger sport 765 sounds like a great idea!
You could have included the mpg for each bike and the fuel tank sizes along with service intervals.
Just bought a 2020 Tracer having been Riding Sports Bikes all my Life and i'm getting around 70 MPG plus on mine which should easily equate to over 200 miles per tank.
Indeed - thanks for the feedback
@MADTASS the only good thing the tracer has going for it is being good on fuel but after owning an MT07 for 4 years I won't ever buy a yamaha again , rust rush and more rust
I bought a new Tracer7 back in March, assumed I’d go for go-faster red but the demo bike was in matt ‘tech kamo’ - taking a walk-around with it gently sparkling in the spring sunshine made it a no-brainer. It still has that ‘wow’ factor when I open the garage! 😎 Admittedly, I didn’t test ride the Tiger 660 but as I sat on the demo at the Triumph dealer, the sales guy tapped away to check availability… I think I’d still be on my little 125, waiting impatiently while summer came and went… 🌞
pelo que tenho visto talvez a Triumph Tiger 660 em questões de motor será mais comprometedora.
You didn't say much about how they are to move about at low speeds, pushing in and out of garages etc, which for lightweight me is a big consideration. Having tried both I'd say that the Triumph feels like a small big bike and the Tracer feels like a big small bike. I like small bikes so it's the Tracer that'll be going in my shed soon.
Great review. A question a bit off topic. Will you be trying to do a comparison review putting the 2022 Goldwing tour against the one you have now?
Hmm tricky that - for reasons that will become clear!
Thanks.
I think JBL motovlogs who had an MT07 for some time got rid of it because it was deteriorating badly in more ways than one, so it does bring in into question the longer term quality of the Yamaha.
Surely, the answer to that question must be that the quality is ok as, when he got his full licence, Jake changed the MT07 for a Yamaha MT09.
@@aunoates6617 I thought he made a reference to the bike not wearing well and that`s why he changed it, I`m sure if he see`s this he can clarify it one way or the other.
Slick script slick edit 🤙
Thank you - I’m glad you noticed!
Price difference? Optional extras price? Engine specs and weights, centre stand?
Check out my "first ride reviews" of each bike for all that kind of detail - thanks for watching!
Can't beat the tracer range 700 /900 ,quality.radar cruise control on next gen 900 apparently?
Sadly, in the USA we don’t have access to the Tracer 7 yet. So for me, the only choice is the Tiger 660. I agree it’s like splitting hairs.
I had no idea they didn’t export to the US…
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yeah, sometimes it does suck to be us.😉
🤦♂ Gutted Andy but good review nevertheless. I suppose I just prefer twins.
Strangely enough I find the Yamaha standard seat more comfortable than the touring seat.
The tiger all day long after all the rust issues i had with my MT 07 and i doubt the tracer would be any different
Oh dear - sorry to hear that!
Great video, thank you for making it. I'm currently looking for a budget commuter/longer distance bike to stable up with my 1200 Speed Triple. I've test ridden a 660 and it was lovely. Tracer 7 is being ridden tomorrow... anyone know if the tracer (GT) has heated grips as standard as i cant see them as an option but they appeared in this video! Lack of QS on the Tracer might be a factor as i'm lazy; especially on long rides :)
So… rode both back to back yesterday, placed an order for the Tiger. The Yamaha felt very agricultural in comparison, discovered I dont like bikes without a slipper clutch (all my previous have had one) and the dash and general plasticy ness of the Tracer just made it a less pleasant place to be. The Tiger however was a dream to ride in every aspect and for me knocked the socks off the Tracer. I wanted to like the tracer as the styling’s a bit funkier.
Tiger. Pillion has been forgotten again. Cruise control would have been nice.
I cannot help but wonder how much the front end handling of the Tracer 7 could be bettered if Yamaha would just stop cheaping out on their forks, I cite the latest Honda CB500 range as an example where modern fork design has improved the way they ride significantly.
You’re probably a better rider than me - I found the front end fine….
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oh I doubt that Andy, & for any Yamaha fans out there I'm not saying the company is playing fast & lose with your safety, far from it, just that there appears to be some unnecessary cost cutting going on which may impact sales of an otherwise good motorcycle. Again, I cite the massive improvement in ride quality & handling Honda have liberated from their lower-mid tier CB500 range by replacing old tech forks with Showa's Big Piston items.