FBI Finds 7,000 Scam Nursing Degrees, Utah Bans Transgender Healthcare, & DoTerra Drs Sued
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This week in Healthcare Headlines we'll discuss The FBI revealed "Operation Nightingale", an investigation into 7,600 Fake Nursing Degrees that were issued from nursing schools in Florida. Over 2,000 of these nurses were able to pass their NCLEX and become nurses, who are currently working all over the country. But its not just these nurses with scam degrees who are a danger to the public, several doctors and a nurse practitioner have been fined thousands of dollars after encouraging their DoTerra essential oils followers, to treat covid symptoms by ingesting, inhaling, and wearing essential oils. These healthcare providers claimed that DoTerra oils could prevent, but also treat and help alleviate symptoms of the virus. This is illegal, as they have not been shown to do this. Zombie Deer are a thin now. Because of course they are. Utah has decided to ban transgender health care, because they are the villian. And green noise is supposed to help us sleep all of this off.
This article is a great summary of the actual risks and benefits of gender affirming care. I hope you’l read it:
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Utah Law Banning Transgender Healthcare For Youth: le.utah.gov/~2...
Gender Affirming Therapy reduces mental Health Risk in Transgender Youth: www.sciencedir...
Increased Mental Health Mortality in Unsupported Transgender Youth:pubmed.ncbi.nl...
Utah Voting Resources: www.equalityut...
Resources for Utah Families: utahpridecente...
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In 42 years as an RN I have worked with two, maybe three, people who were not actually nurses. The one case that was exposed as a fraud was back in the 1980's and the guy was found out to not have any degree remotely related to nursing. More recently I had very strong suspicions about a nurse working with us based upon their shocking lack of knowledge. The person I am thinking of was fired for other reasons and no one ever investigated their license. It is my apprehension that this problem is far more widespread. This is probably the tip of the iceberg. When you get a feeling a peer does not have adequate skills, watch your back and look out for the patients. Imagine being the charge nurse or supervisor responsible for a fake nurse passing medications and assessing patients for safety. This is so terrifying for patients.
Imagine that nurse being a charge or house supervisor 😵💫💀
This just shows people in the higher up don't know what there doing don't know all the rules and guidelines and most likely were hired because they knew someone not because they are qualified 👀👀👀👀😭😭
@@godsgirl7201 and when you go
To the hospital they all rude n nasty
Someone getting bribe somewhere all corrupt these young Latinos they sleep around to get diploma African Indian Asian European are the best doctor I will never see a Latino doctor never
Anyone ever think about the people who went to any of those 3 schools legitimately. Students who did all the right curriculum. This will create a mess for them.
This just shows people in the higher up don't know what there doing don't know all the rules and guidelines and most likely were hired because they knew someone not because they are qualified 👀👀👀👀😭😭
Yes they all need to go to jail! They need to make an example impersonating a nurse is extremely dangerous. I don't understand why they would not charge them.
Because they black if they do then they call it racist even they not from this country they Haitian
I wonder if the NCLEX testing facility was in on it!?? Just another thing to discredit nurses
I have sat for NCLEX Exam for the 9th time now and still failed , i guess licence isn't meant for people like me🤦♂️💔
@lorienThresa I agree just keep plugging away. You’ll get there.
dont work like that.. passing boards is CAT and not a joke..its Florida BON that's a joke 🤣
How would the center know? They just check if you have an ATT
Actually, If testing is online anybody could sit there with a phone and Google answers
Pretending or representing yourself as a licensed nurse is a felony! Put them all in Prison. It is absolutely 💯 disgusting
They black they not gonna
Well, they literally *are* "licensed nurse"s as they passed the NCLEX and their states licensed them. Now the states hopefully would revoke those licenses as they committed fraud in representing themselves as graduates of an Approved Nursing Program, but for the moment...
I have so many questions for the Florida BON too...
I can attest from my own personal experience that having gender affirming top surgery absolutely SAVED MY LIFE.
My province (Ontario) and its healthcare system is very far from perfect. Accessing gender affirming care is a shtshow to varying degrees here. The fight for care is incredibly exhausting, but I'd do it again a million times over because the alternative is frightening - and permanent. 😪
I'm beyond upset and frustrated with the multitude of anti-trans legislation in the US. I feel deeply for anyone living in states where your basic existence is constantly under threat. The hate, ignorance and mis/disinformation is unreal.😔
Thank you, Nurse Liz, for informing people with facts. It makes my enby heart feel a little lighter.
These people should be stripped of their license, banned from ever getting any type of nursing license in any state in the future, and face criminal charges.
They should send all back to Haiti that we’re they from
Liz, the government has been making healthcare decisions for many years. Insurance affects what healthcare we can obtain. Those decisions are made in the legislature. The way hospitals are paid is made in the legislature. Nurses are useless so we put the care they provide in room and board (DRG) those decisions were made in the legislature. I do agree those decisions should not be made by the legislatures. I'm so sick of people with NO qualifications in a field making decisions for that field of work.
I’m honestly surprised you didn’t say the fake degrees were in Ohio. There are some shady programs in Ohio and I’ve worked with some graduates. I wouldn’t be shocked if you told me their degrees are fake.
Some of them work at ocala fl advent care I have them fake nurse
Even a lot of your RN-BSN programs are starting to require field experience hours in order to keep their accreditation (CCNE in my case). I ran into this issue when I was enrolled and had to restart cancer treatment, and due to accreditation standards they could not give me an alternative assignment in order to complete my courses.
In terms of hormone blockers most people simply don't understand how they are not what the public think it is. Then we have politicians and certain anti-trans groups that use this lack of education to their advantage and misinform their followers into thinking "trans care= BAD" without critically thinking what is actually happening. There are a lot of drugs/ medications we give children and young adults that have adverse/side effects (oral BC for example?) that we as a society give AYAs because of the benefits outweigh risks and side effects. I really appreciate your stance on this.
Thats really frustrating that they wouldn't take alternative clinical experiences into consideration. Especially since there are SO many other experiences you could legitimately have that would give you the same if not a better background. Did they ever resolve that? And yeah. the number of people in this comment section who are trained to think trans = bad is honestly terrifying. I don't think people realize these exact same medications are given to children all the time who have growth abnormalities. and literally zero people are up in arms about that. thanks for the encouragement! Needed after this hot mess haha
Yes my RN-BSN program required clinical hours
@@NurseLiz Unfortunately no. I wasn't able to complete my courses and I'm now on an extended break until I get a clean scan to go back and finish everything. Which in my opinion I should have had at least a partial refund for the term but they didn't see it that way.
As a pre-nursing student at a major Florida university, this really boils my blood. I’m already scared for the amount of work I’m about to put in, and seeing people take the shortcut just for the money is so disheartening.
Do IT .
This just shows people in the higher up don't know what there doing don't know all the rules and guidelines and most likely were hired because they knew someone not because they are qualified 👀👀👀👀😭😭
I have so much anxiety from nursing school already the fact that my degree will be from a school in Florida I can't even imagine the looks ill get in the future
Right, Nursing school made my hair fall out
😭😭
Just check it out..as along as the college/university is State affiliated..you should be ok
Terrifying for several reasons, mainly the patients. But also, what kind of person would want to work as a nurse without training? Nursing is scary with a license and experience. Imagine working alongside someone who knows nothing!
Thank you Nurse Liz, hope you feel better!!!
for real. its already enough of a mess without this!
This just shows people in the higher up don't know what there doing don't know all the rules and guidelines and most likely were hired because they knew someone not because they are qualified 👀👀👀👀😭😭
They all Haitian they come here to take our job and get rich quick thank Biden
A mercenary nurse
I love all your content so much!!! I have been a nurse for 6 years; 5 of those being NICU nursing years! You should do a meet up because this whole community you’ve built would love to meet you! 🥰
Aww thanks! Appreciate the encouragement! Maybe one day!
I disagree with you about gender-affirming care . I'm glad that they are waking up and stopping this. I hope every state follow them In stopping this horrifying practice.
Agreed!
It's fully, horrifically wrong to interfere with the natural physical development of children to mask their sex characteristics.
Should be illegal everywhere, especially when we know the healthcare industry does this for profit! Sickening!
The mortality benefit for gender affirming care is greater than out of hospital CPR, ACLS, tPA for stroke, and dozens of other medical interventions we widely consider to be lifesaving medical interventions
Waiting for the fear campaign to start spreading for those interventions 🙄🤦🏻♀️
Yes they all knew what was going on
We (I) worked our butts off for many years, went through so much to get our legitimate nursing licenses! We struggled to work to PAY for school before and long after as well, attended school 8-430, M-F, and so forth plus labs and clinical hours, consolidation, tears, numerous examinations AND our 'provincials' (depending on the year graduated school), NCLEX and so forth, for many years! I hate how all these people got away with this (which is BEYOND mind blowing) and for so long. There's so many layers of this nonsense to be peeled back.
I'm sorry for the 'real legitimate' nurses who may have attended some of these schools at one time and now they feel somehow, shamed. This MUST be dealt with harshly and immediately to restore the trust in those 'real' RNs and RPNs. 🤦🏼♀️
With nurses going across state lines with contract nurse.. the hole is deeper..... we as nurses know we have CLINICALS AND debt after getting your diploma for RN and LVN/LPN
I also question these fly by night “nursing schools” that pop up in shopping malls (mostly for profit). Accreditation standards should require schools to be universities/colleges, not tiny little for profit businesses that cannot pay for qualified faculty. I love the idea of going back to the seriously clinically based nursing programs housed within a hospital. And then everything else in a traditional university/college. Not, hey I want to open a rando business to operate a nursing school with super high tuition and no idea how to do higher Ed.
I am a nurse too and I disagree with you about the transgenderism topic. It seems like kids now days are told to question their gender from a very young age. I believe we as a healthcare system is failing our children. Kids growing up are of course supposed to question who they are without being put under life altering procedures. Now days, our kids are bombarded with tik Tok videos and even school telling them they might not be the gender they are born in and teaching them about drag queens. It's really sad and disturbing seeing this going on in our country. Do you think there is long term studies about these surgeries/puberty blockers? I don't think so..Oh and the "reasearch" now days isn't even true research any more, highly bias and funded by big pharmacutical companies. I used to really like your channel back in the days but it seems like now days you are regurgitating what news medias and big Pharma are pushing. I think as healthcare workers we need to stand up against this craziness its just making the top people richer as they exploit every part of humans. ( I am not talking about the 1% of truly transgender people, but there is obviously another agenda going on in this country)
@coffeelover72 I agree. The kids need leaves alone.
the long term studies on dying are pretty conclusive. If you aren't alive, your bone density or other complications don't matter too much. I hope you do a little reflection on the topic. Particularly as a health care provider. These are not decisions that are made without a lot of reflection and therapy and guidance from a treatment team. Children are not going on tik tok and then deciding to get puberty blockers. Thats a narrative spun by hatred, promoting anti-science legislation that we saw in this utah situation. Really think about it. Do you think parents are just throwing medication at their children the first time they bring up questions surrounding their gender identity? Do you think there isn't countless hours of therapy prior to taking these meds? This is not a rushed decision. This isn't a forced decision. This is an option that saves lives. And helps people feel supported. If you've never known individuals living this, I urge you to change that. You might find that your mind is changed as well.
As for you "liking my channel back in the day", I am no longer OK with staying silent on important matters like I used to.
@@NurseLiz The studies show that there is a higher risk of suicide at every stage of a transgender persons life. I have seen people who have changed their gender and still experiencing suicidal thoughts. The higher suicide rates is not a causality thing, it's a multifaceted issue. Its not that you are not staying silent, I do like that you are voicing your opinion, its just against my core beliefs and that is ok!
@@NurseLiz I do think there are a lot of kids struggling with depression or other issues who are seeing people promote this to become happy. And if it doesn't solve their problem the suicide risk is high. We already know suicide disproportionate, and likely to be more so IMO.
@@LoveYourNeighbor70 agree that gender affirming care doesn’t negate suicidal ideation or attempt. But it reduces it. And harm reduction should always be an option. This law is cruel because it removes that option for a family to make an informed decision, where they will weigh the risk and benefit and decide for themselves.
I linked a research study that looks at who had increased attempts. And it was the kids who did not receive gender affirming care and those who felt like people in their life didn’t support their choice with their actions. I think social media has made this out to be a rampant thing. When in reality, The number of children receiving things like puberty blockers is small. Schools are not flooded with transgender children. But the narrative of fear that is pushed, is that everyone is being told they should be trans. And schools are overflowing with kids who want to suddenly change gender. And question everything. And that is simply not true.
Removing treatment options from the few who would seek it, and would benefit from it, doesn’t in reality affect most kids. Because most kids don’t want it or need it. So why target them and attack them with legislation like this? For the choices they and their parents and healthcare team think are best? It makes no sense to me.
Fraud is fraud !
Absolutely disgusting 🤮
Where is your ethics, professionalism and trust to public!
Jail is not enough !!!!
Even in interviews when applying for jobs, they ask you about your clinical experiences lol
exactly!
Wow, I’m shocked how many nurses on here are anti-trans and feel their personal belief systems should at all impact the health care decisions of others. As more and more legislation is being passed controlling medical decision making patients are losing their ability to make decisions that are best for them with their physicians. Women, LGBTQ, this is an extremely disturbing trend.
Right? It's been really disheartening to see how many people are filled with hatred in this comment section. We have the data. they just don't want to see it. And it makes me really worried for the future of healthcare and this country in general.
It is not hate to recognize the factual reality of sex differences, and to defend children from being exploited by healthcare profiteers who would mask the real and unchangeable sex of a child to affirm a false belief that they "should" be the opposite sex. No! No child is born into the "wrong" body! No person should be made to think that they aren't the sex that they really are!
Seriously, stop it with the ideological arguments about this so-called "hate!"
Children should be allowed to mature normally and naturally with their healthy sex characteristics, regardless of any dysphoria about it
Most people feel distressed about natural puberty when they're going through it themselves! That's what's being denied! It's the natural human condition, and people are horrifically capitalizing on the feelings of children to permanently harm their bodies!
It should be illegal!
Pretty sure they wouldn't have passed in the old days when it was a 2 day long set of 4 tests...like 1600 questions or something like that....and back then I believe it was 3 times and your out...
pretty sure I may not have passed that version of the test either haha
Current nursing student here in Florida. These kind of things angers me. Florida education already has a bad name and even for the nurses who graduated here. Now with this story will make all us look even worse. There are talks about Florida leaving the board of education which will possibly hinder the licenses of nurses who graduated here. This can possibly mean that a license that was given here will not work in other states. Like you said “it’s always Florida”….
Nursing licenses come under the jurisdiction of state Boards of Nursing. They don't play. My guess is that after revoking or annulling their licenses, each state BRN will refer these individuals to their state AG for criminal prosecution. The Feds can get involved only on the federal charges associated with the scam such as wire fraud and conspiracy. Punishment can range from probation to Jail or Prison time. Not to mention the permanent damage to their records which will guarantee that they can never pass another background check for employment again. They're screwed.
The trans panic being pushed by certain politicians is so despicable. The kids are having none of it. I love the younger generations so much for their mass rejection of the theocrat monsters among us. My wife has struggled with gender dysphoria her entire life. It’s good to see things are changing. If the Christian-Taliban hates it that much, I think they should all move to Iran. Or get over it. No one has to conform to their identity anymore.
It’s seriously mind blowing the trans panic that is out there. Particularly in this comment section. Which is frighteningly filled with healthcare professionals. Who are really embracing the fear narrative. Thanks for being a voice of reason. It’s much needed today
Thanks for promoting basic human decency and freedom of self determination. These awful hypocrites don’t bat an eye about teenage girls who participate in medical transhumanism for breast augmentations or nose jobs but freak out if someone like my wife would like them removed. It would have been so much better for my wife if she could’ve had that done. She refers to them as curses. She hates them.
Everyone who has anything done to medically augment their body (like eye glasses) is trans. Time to stop panicking or seriously, go move somewhere modern medicine doesn’t exist if they think it’s so evil.
And I’m a CLS from the lab. I can relate to your horror at how many nurses are anti-vax kooks who believe everything fed to them by Tucker Carlson the tv dinner heir. Now I wonder if their degrees are fake. The fake degree must work or it wouldn’t be selling that well. What a horrifying thought. 🥺
Do we have data on self harm/ SI, suicide after getting transgender care? Asking because that's important for information for providers.
You think that’s horrible! I heard that the new scam is 10 different people working on one license! Not in Florida though I believe it’s more on the West Coast
Just curious how they can pass NCLEX.
Those nurses with fake licenses were nurses from overseas?
Well you can't be a nurse unless you actually went to school to be educated as a nurse, just like you can't be a boy if you're a girl or a girl if you are a boy. You're born what you're born, And you earn a degree when you're smart enough to earn that degree. It is what it is.
Jail...it's impersonating a nurse...since they never went to school....
oh the state of GA is prosecuting!
As a transgender kid it's sad that most of the adults here in this comment section won't even try to look up and try to understand and say whatever they think the medication we get is LOL. I'm going to take testosterone and puberty blockers because I need to. Stop spreading hate and just accept people. Its really not that hard
This comment section is horrific. I recommend we leave immediately lol. A lot of people here have been fed a narrative of fear and it’s completely blinding them to the reality of the situation. And it’s really sad. Hope you have compassionate and loving humans in your life to support you!
It's really manipulative and sad, Nurse, that you characterize arguments of factual reality as "fear" and "hate."
We comment because we're standing up for reality and factual reason--not out of hate or being ill -informed.
Sex is real and unchangeable. It's the only thing that is truly male or female about a person.
Gender theory is actually false. It's a point of view that is ideological, but goes against what is really known about the differences between men and women.
Interests, personality, sincere feelings, dysphoria, and apparel do not give any actual clues about whether a person is actually male or female. Telling children gender is a spectrum is also false, because it's conflating social stereotypes and tendencies with biological reality.
Every child should be given the opportunity to mature fully before intervention to mask their sex characteristics. Preventing natural and healthy puberty in childhood is wrong, and causes a lot of serious problems.
And children should be allowed to have mature mental development into adulthood before any kind of intervention, because people should have a right to comprehend the ramifications of something so physically consequential!
To divorce it from sensitive issues, look into the legal proceedings that people with endometriosis have with the makers/distributors/marketers of Thee Big Name puberty blocker.
@@skaughtsman @Scott Henderson I always love when transphobes try to say "it goes against science!" when every major medical organization disagrees with you. Maybe, just maybe, the science doesn't agree with YOU.
No one is saying sex isn't real, but our concept of a very rigid sexual dimorphism is very much a social construct. Biological sex is far more complicated than what you learn in 8th grade bio. If you want to talk about sex based social oppression? Absolutely! But to use that oppression as a weapon against another marginalized community is horrific. Also trying to rigidly tie gender (and gender roles, a separate thing from gender) to sex has an equally horrific history that has subjecated an entire sex for centuries.
Even then, gender is a separate characteristic from sex. Gender is also social constructed. We can only work with the tools society gave us. Here's the thing, when I go in public, I get "she" "ma'am" "ladies" and no one seems to bat an eye (and I live in Texas!), so regardless of whatever you think my sex and gender are, people see me and see a woman.
In addition, the term "gender theory" as used by transphobes exists entirely as a way to reduce their own anxieties around targeting a marginalized minority (we're less than 3% of the population!). By pretending being trans is an "ideology" instead of a state of being or characterist, trans-exclusionists are simply in a theoritical debate. They're not hateful bigots targeting people for an unchangeable characteristic, no they're just warrior in the marketplace of ideas. In the same way people argue they aren't antisemitic, they just oppose Global Jewery.
It's "hate the sin love the sinner" but somehow even worse. Trans-exclusion is an ideology, being trans isn't.
As well, you mentioned dysphoria and lumped it in with things like interests is down right insulting! What do you even know of dysphoria? What do you know about the mental pain someone goes through going through the wrong puberty? Feeling so alienated in your body that you wish you could rip your own skin off?
If delaying or blocking puberty is so dangerous, why are transphobes trying to ban it for trans youth and not, say, children going through precocious puberty? Puberty blockers have been in use since the late 1970's and since the 1980's to treat dysphonia in kids! Do you think 40 years of data isn't enough?
Also do you know how difficult it is to even access gender affirming care in this country? It's not like a kid just walks in and they walk out with hormones and a hysterectomy, it requires a lot of evaluation, usually by multiple doctors, and years of tests and evals before you even get there.
Have you meet a single trans people in your entire life?
@@skaughtsman You are acting like us kids are getting full blown surgeries. No, puberty blockers arent even ONLY used for transgender people you should know its also used for heavy periods :). Also, testosterone will have side effects but its our choice. You know who should have the choice of the kids getting that stuff. THE PARENTS WOW!!!! And also you dont know how dysphoria works and how mentally draining it is.
One theory Ive heard? "Nurses" themselves wont get charged- thats a slippery slope to getting the hospitals that hired them in hot water. The hospitals are responsoble to bsckground check and vet their new hires. If an adverse pt event happened at the hands of one of these fake nurses, woe to the hospital that hired them, too!
(Please note- I dont think the hospitals SHOULDNT be part of this. Im just saying imagine the money involved? Yikes)
How would the hospital know they had a real license through the board of nursing, but obtained the license by fraud. As far as the hospitals or any healthcare job knew was that they were real nurses because they had real license. They are not to blame. I think they should get charged and never get license it’s not far I spent years to become a nurse and was hard work. This is so upsetting
Actually I used to manage an MLS office and pharmaceutical reps would stroll in with " presents" all the time.
Some take gifts im sure. Fortunately almost all academic medical centers do not. That way there’s no risk of bias in prescribing. And the gifts aren’t enough to sway most prescribers in my opinion even when they do exist
These will not be ethical people to care for anyone...
Have to disagree strongly on trans surgery care for minors. Once 18, do what you want to do though.
1. People under 18 are still developing and cannot consent.
2. What do you have to say to the people who later detransition.. oh sorry?
3. We are talking about affecting their whole lives going forward and there is no going back if they were just confused or going through a phase.
4. There are way too many variables, mostly that the subject is not fully developed to consider this as a good idea.
5. Watch a few detransition videos and tell me they were given treatments that helped them. Female to male losing the ability to have children... And done at an age before they really would be seriously considering that as a choice.
You have a right to your opinions, but until of age, I do not think we should be harming children. Let them become adults then make that life choice.
Please look at the evidence reviews done by the UK, Sweden, and Finland regarding transgender care in adolescents. There is nowhere near the evidence basis you claim in the video or these comments. It seems you and other providers have decided your position based on politics and not on evidence. Please also read Jamie Reed's affidavit for the state of Missouri regarding her experience as a case manager in a gender clinic for children. This is not healthcare in the sense of making children healthy, and I fear "trans healthcare for minors" will be the medical scandal of our time, quite similar to lobotomies. The justification is even similar e.g. look how happy they are. Let's let kids grow up without intervention in their natural development.
I’ve linked a lot of research that supports my stance. From our own country. That applies to our population. I promise, it’s a position backed by research. Hope you take a look. There are definitely clinics that manage this horribly. I’m sure. And that is awful. But when done appropriately, providing gender affirming care saves lives and is healthcare. Denying it to everyone who needs it based on some bad actors doesn’t make sense to me. The justification is not how happy they are. It’s the increases survival of these kids. And decreased attempts at self harm.
One of the nurses who floated to our unit is in NP school. They told her since she is already a nurse and working in the hospital she does not have to do clinicals, her work hours count. She has to pay for clinicals, though.
She is going to transfer to another school.
whaaaat. thats SKETCH. But also. I precepted a nurse practitioner student who had done ALL of her clinical in a flu clinic giving flu shots. 48 hours with me was the only actual experience she was getting. and when I wouldn't pass her, her teacher over rode my input and let her graduate anyway. legit. terrifying what these NP schools are doing.
@@NurseLiz
Scary.
The only hope is that hospitals know about these schools and do not hire NP from there. Unfortunately, I have forgotten the name of the school.
Something on-line.
@@natdeu some hospitals are good about knowing what schools to avoid which is good. But I’m sure not all are 🤦🏻♀️
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I don’t think LVN/LPN should know that they need more clinical to transition to RN because they may not know accreditation standards for nursing schools. They probably have a good case to at least get their tuition reimbursed for their ignorance of the school’s responsibility.
How did these people pass the licensing exam? I'm thinking they were allowed to study exam specific questions. How did they curtail clinicals or did they do the online quickie program. The online programs have been around forever an the nurses who did this went straight into management. Ha.
This schools gave them even the Questions for nclex for what I know …
Blocking the bodies natural process (even for a "little bit" of time) by taking puberty blockers seems very sketchy, to stop a process that is detrimental to the growth and development of that person seems dangerous. I will make a prediction that it's not a good idea. Just my opinion.
So that the person wont have to remember the body they were actually born in and it will decrease the depression they have WOO SCARY IM SO SCAREDDDD. Also, if you actually looked it up if they want to stop the period and the puberty will come back bro. Its not a huge thing LOL people who have heavy periods take it
Blocking a persons medical treatment because YOU think it’s sketchy.. is very sketchy. Let people live. If you want to deny your own child this, fine. But don’t deny other children care based on your own feelings. When we have data to show gender affirming care is helpful.
@@NurseLiz it seems as if this topic makes you so emotional that you're unable to have a productive conversation and automatically assume and argue points that I never argued. I didn't say block anyone's ability. I am not the only person who thinks it is dangerous to block puberty and the "science" you reference, is pretty much experimental at this point, nothing definitive can be said as to the safety of blocking puberty for extended periods of time and that should worry people. It also should worry you when your child says they are going to harm themselves, so I can appreciate the difficult nature of the decision, hence I never said to block anyone's ability as a child and parent together. In order to make change you have to be willing to listen to people's point of view and discuss risks and benefits to each situation.. you shouldn't just shut people down because they disagree with you and assume you know their position.
@@Crispybacon163 i am listening. How is blocking treatment in adolescents not blocking treatment? Are there risks to treatment? Yes. That’s why a robust conversation should be had with family and a treatment team. That’s why patients should undergo a ton of therapy before this choice is made. Do some crappy programs not provide that? I’m sure. But good, evidence based programs do provide a ton of therapy and counseling before an adolescent would be approached with the choice to start hormone suppression. Where they then could weigh the risks and benefits. And make their own choice. Legislation like this removes thst choice. It is theirs to make. Not a legislators.
@@Crispybacon163 we have a lot of data on the long term uses of hormone blockers.. because they’ve been used for decades in children with growth hormone disorders. Interestingly, nobody is up in arms about using it in those children. It’s upsetting to me because people are attacking a super small group of humans who just want to be treated for their healthcare condition. With the same meds that are used on other kids. And they can’t because all of the sudden people pretend to care about their well-being, when in fact, it’s just a form of control of a marginalized group of people
What a mess and do come across nurses travelers to Cali do not know what to do on the floor 😂well if the nurses lying and cheating what about the doctors because I’m having to teach them how to place orders😢
It's too bad they used the name "Siena". Both Siena Heights in MI and Siena College in NY have legit nursing programs.
I know. I found both of those when I was looking this up.
I am a nursing student In Florida
My first lenguaje is not English, so I worked so hard for my entrance exame , and now
I am doing lots of efforts for Learning everything again.
I am si disappointed knowing that there is schools here in Miami , that you don t Even need to know English, they take you and you go to class and they give you the exams ( review) questions and you become a nurse. Easy like that
Is that fair ?
Hope someone do an investigation about it ……
This is crazy, soon to follow ridiculous extra money and requirements for those of us who have done our due diligence when we renew our licenses.
You still didn't meet the "big demand" you didn't put actual nurses in those spots, you just placed bodies about as effective as going to the mourge for a body.
Wait so like these 'Nursing Schools' were hybrid -- diploma mill and actual students?! Must make for some nice new-hire orientations: "So where'd you go to school? Oh, Palm Springs? Me too! Didn't the Peds Instructor just *suck*?!" "Uh, sure..."
This just shows people in the higher up don't know what there doing don't know all the rules and guidelines and most likely were hired because they knew someone not because they are qualified 👀👀👀👀😭😭
Chronic wasting is similar to mad cow disease which is similar to CJD. My sis in law passed from CJD. 😢
Aside: "You can take the NCLEX in NY as many times as you want without remediation, and that sucks" -- there are still a nontrivial amount of states that don't require CEs for Nursing License renewal. And *that* sucks.
I don't think the students should go to jail because they was not informed with the right information. I live in Pennsylvania and would commercials on my phone from certain schools in Florida. Called and emailed them and It was too good to be true.
I think Eventually USA is going to take away LPN programs.
If they have the names of these individuals all they have to do is send a list to each of the State Boards. If a nurse is working in their state then revoke their license, track down where they are working so the facility can fire them. There is no asking for the license, just need definitive action.
Our jails are so overcrowded. Would a trial, fine, and probation be a possible alternative? Just asking?
Actually, I've been present to have an FBI agent shove (yes, I said shove) me out of the way to get to the person they were hauling away for practicing with a forged license. Is this is not at least the same gravity? No training, is not training
I am into the anti MLM world too!!!
its an excellent rabbit hole haha.
@@NurseLiz absolutely lol
This is criminal!!! If actual nurses who made errors are criminally charged ?! These nurses should be charged with harm and assault
However not one of those 7600 nurses did no harm to the patients you wanna know why?
The institution need nurses...they have education courses for new grad nurses to work in and have on going training.
You have fully trained nurses who harm patient and even kill...
So maybe the jealousy is that they cheated in getting it .. however they will not revoke their license nor will the institution do anything about it.
Charge those who took the money and just let it go ..my opinion 🤔
Is it possible that therapy could help reduce or remove gender dysphoria so that their view of self is more aligned with biological sex and therefore reduce distress and risk of suicide?
therapy is a HUGE first step of gender affirming therapy. And many do not proceed to medication. Thats whats so frustrating about this, is this is not people throwing meds at children willy nilly. This is a process. A long one. And many steps come before medication is discussed. Therapy is an initial, ongoing, and life long thing for people receiving gender affirming care. And that does not negate that for some, additional support is also needed. And for that minority, they should be able to make an informed decision with their family about what would be best for them.
Interfering with the natural and healthy growth process to physical/sexual maturity is NOT legitimate! It's an effort to "affirm" false ideas about the self in people who have gender dysphoria, and that effort is wrong! But this is especially wrong for children, who do not yet have the maturity to realize that their gender dysphoria is at odds with their actual, unchangeable sex and the real, damaging, life-long ramifications.
We don't intervene to affirm other false ideas children have about themselves. "Gender affirming care" should always be illegal for children--because it's ideological and not based in the real scientific healthcare we should provide to get these children to their natural maturity!!
@@skaughtsman if a child should be banned from any medical procedures that have a permanent effect that they can not know the full ramifications of (which I don't agree with but anyway), then children should be banned from most medical care more invasive than a bandaid. Cancer treatment? That can have life-changing and long term effects, so no. Surgery? Absolutely not.
Even then! Most gender affirming care outside of surgery is fully reversable! Want to end the affect of puberty blockers? Stop taking them. Want to detransition? Stop taking the hormones (really the only lasting effects are deeper voice in trans men and breast growth in trans women). It's far less permanent and long-lasting than a lot of medical treatments a child may need in their life.
Also who appointed you as the arbiter of what is the right way to treat gender dysphoria and the right way for trans people to live there lives? Gender affirming care has some of the highest success rates in the medical world. What we use today for affirming care is older than the polio vaccine!
Gender affirming surgeries have a 2-4% regret rate (which trans minors do not recieve), while knee replacement surgery has a 40% regret rate! Should be we launch state run investigations into that? 300 bills nationally to ban it? Of course fucking not.
I'll tell you right now hormones saved my life. My upcoming bottom surgery is going to make my emotional well-being that much better. You don't get to tell me how to live my life or what medical decisions I make privately with my doctor.
Labor shortage...we gotta do what we gotta do....🙃
that seriously seems to be their line of thinking in a lot of these articles. like whaaaat?
😂
How many people have died because of their lack of skills and knowledge!
Those prices are cheaper than a lot of the private programs 😂
I am on my way to do a travel assignment in Florida sooooo this will be interesting.
Unbelievable! Despicable' Horrific!
It is horrific for people to profit off of inhibiting the natural maturity of children to mask their sex characteristics.
Horrible that it's not illegal everywhere yet, and it should be!
Identity vs. confusion 12 to 17 is a normal stage, but the treatments are debatable.
They all need to go to jail please
I wonder if there was anyone who legitimately went to this school and passed
Some students who went through the actual programs are suing the school because they were not given the right amount of clinical, charged more than was agreed to, and were in general awful. So it sounds like they are just over all a mess.
Have you ever scrolled through FB advertisements for these programs, to numerous to count !!!!!
Lol, maybe Facebook fact checkers should look into the advertisements..
Travel nurse group has yet another Palm Beach victim asking for help. I'm still insisting that all these folks didn't know.
You don't seem to keep your own comments respectful. When did this get to be a political channel?
When politicians started banning HEALTHCARE access. I have no obligation to keep comments respectful. Ever. But particularly when discussing the horrific over reach of politicians who are causing harm to patients with their ignorant, fear based, and disgusting choices that are based in their personally feelings and not science.
Gender theory and blocking puberty is extremely harmful to children.
Children are impressionable, and can be led to believe false things about themselves, including about their factual sex.
Interfering with the natural development of the human body, to mask their sex characteristics, is life-long harm.
I hope healthcare professionals can recognize that the gender theory ideology has indoctrinated too many, and hurt too many, and they will root it out of society entirely.
Until then, we need it to be illegal, with severe consequences, because healthcare providers are sadly doing this harm for profit!
Sex is factual and easily observable (science).
Natural development through puberty is reality (science).
Blocking puberty, for ideas about gender, and what it means to be a man or a woman is harmful (and ideological!).
Be on the right side of science: do not experiment with human children to hide their actual sex!
It's wrong, and harmful to that child!
@@NurseLizactually, you DO have an obligation to keep communication respectful because it shows willingness to consider another’s opinion . Character is called into question and the Internet follows you…. A respectful response keeps followers and you relevant.
There are not just 3 colleges involved in the SCAM.
It is all about the $$$!
This is shocking 😮
They knew 🎉
The list of these fraudulent nurses need to be made public. All of these individuals need to be prosecuted.
agreed. a list absolutely needs to be put out. I appreciate the states that have done that so far
Everything Is the schools
Believe! Is very disappointed
My biggest thing, where do you have this amount of money to pay for this “fake” degree?
I’m sure they took loans out for them 🥴
1. To be nationally registered paramedic which usually get paid less than RN, have to pass skill check offs. So idk why it's not a requirement.
2. Giving excuses for immigrants because 'they don't understand ' what their signing is bs. If you don't understand that, how can you pass the NCLEX which sometimes the questions can be tricky as heck. This is coming from a first gen immigrant.
Skill check offs - and a hefty number of clinical & lab hours - are DEFINITELY a requirement in nursing school, & graduating is a requirement to take NCLEX. That’s why this is fraud. These “schools” essentially sold fake documentation saying they had done all of this when they had very much not.
Just thinking, it says a lot for being a vegetarian.
Go after NEW MEXICO AND CALIFORNIA
We have a few potion bottles lol one in each purse too. Incase anyone was wondering, dont put tums for your husband in the potion bottle....they will taste like aspirin..he will be unhappy 😅😂
just imagining that flavor is unfortunate haha. Thanks for the warning
Operation Nightingale is flat out silly. Must admit the rumor here in MN is that many of our nurses are having other people take NCLEX for them. Based on what my nurses don't know (I am an ADON) I can see this being true. When I approached senior leadership I am pushed off. It's a tough time for nurses.
Yikes 😳
😮. That's scary.
I agree corny name! 😂
Operation fraud nurses!
Aaah Florida
W Utah
Immigration nurses
My daughter who still lives in Utah states the teachers and parents are very upset with giving $ 32,000 for private/charter schools. Parents can also chose to collect the $ 32,000 per year to home school their children. Deregulating curriculum no standardized testing or checking these children for abuse risk.
Endocrinologist should consult psychiatrist to treat suicidal ideation.
Psych is involved at every step of the way of gender affirming care. They are the first stop. Before endocrinology is ever involved. And are guiding the entire course of treatment.
Sadly, people are injecting their own false ideologies into phycology and healthcare.
No person is born into the wrong body.
Interests and personality do not determine whether a person is male or female. Sex is real, clear, and unchangeable.
No child should be told that their feelings, however distressing and sincere, have anything to do with whether they're male or female.
Children need to know that their sex is fully, completely factual.
It's gender theory itself that is wholly wrong on this issue! It's gender theory that should be discredited and dismissed by healthcare professionals!
@@skaughtsman Gender dysmorphia is a real condition that many people have. It is obviously not as simple for people with this condition to just accept their DNA gender, or the learned gender roles and characteristics that they are expected. We have to respect and provide the appropriate care needed to children suffering with this condition. That is what the experts are now in disagreement about. Usually these laws are changed according to who is filing lawsuits…… the stakeholders in this should be adult children that were treated during their childhood. No one else can really speak on it first hand.
Disgraceful of you to label recognizing the reality of sex, and sex characteristics as "hate" or "fear." You're revealing the abusive, anti-science nature of "gender theory."
Sex is easily observable and unchangeable. It's not in question, even when children have certain interests, personalities, feelings or sincerely severe dysphoria.
Protecting children from being lied to about their sex, and protecting them from be given drugs, hormones, and surgeries to mask their sex is not "hate," it's informed defense against harmful, ideological experimentation--on children!
It's fully wrong and abusive to lie to children about whether they're really a boy or really a girl, and it's expressly anti-science to do so!
Lying about the realities and permanence of sex is not healthcare. Preventing the natural maturation process of puberty with drugs is not healthcare. Artificially affecting sex characteristics with cross-sex hormone replacement is not healthcare! Removing healthy sex-specific body parts is not healthcare!
Speaking of "deluding" oneself, people in healthcare need to wake up to the anti-science, and severe harms they're perpetrating on children under the guise of "affirmation." Until they do, it needs to be illegal with severe consequences against people who would do these things to children!
Medical conditions are entirely different than life changing medical intervention by young patients choice. I know a 12 yr old down the street, she acts as a Male because it is cool and peer pressure. What happens when she gets trans treatment and she gets older and realizes she no longer thinks that way. Healthcare has no clue what the long term effects would be.
You just think that they just GIVE these treatments? For me, they had to make an evaluation to make sure i had gender dysphoria. You have to ensure you haven't attempted in a year or did anything "bad" or you won't get it. ITS VERY STRICT. That's why most detrasitoners are adults because it's easier for them than kids. Also, rather have a kid who gets treatment than a kid who doesn't and kills themself just saying.
I have worked on 4 lawsuits for minors on this subject, very familiar with the process, factual stats and psychological/emotional/physical/medical issues, and the pros/cons. Cons far outweigh the pros when it comes to minors, and I will leave it there.
so you've met four. but how many thousands have benefited? the data overall do not support your stance. anecdotal evidence, is NOT what we should be basing laws on
@@Ariadnesthreads92 getting testosterone and puberty blockers arent surgical decisions.. LOL
Agreed, no child should be taught they might secretly be in the wrong body.
Their sex is factual and real. Interests and personality have nothing to do with it!
Interfering with their natural maturity to mask their sex is highly unethical! Children do not realize the ramifications of such "affirmation" of a false belief about themselves!
Glad to hear Utah is on the right track :)
What exactly is on the right track about removing treatment options from a minority of patients who need it? When we know the consequences and they are not good. This legislation is hateful, and targeted at a minority group that deserves care and not further shame.
Medical organizations go along with this ideology because of the large sums of money they take in while harming these children.
Children deserve to physically mature in their real, unchangeable sex, naturally and healthfully (unhindered by cross-sex hormones or puberty blockers) until their minds are old enough to consider the ramifications of such interference.
We don't allow children to drink alcohol, smoke, get tattoos, drive, or vote until they're mature adults.
Why would we treat their false ideas about their sex cause us to try to mask their real sex characteristics? Sex is known and real, and 100% unchangeable.
No, medical "gender affirming" efforts are not legitimate, and should always be illegal for minors.
What is the treatment exactly? They’re being denied the same care as the average joe? Or is the “treatment” only affirmation of their delusions?
This is scary to think about.. I am a Christian and I myself was born female believe I am female and I don’t believe that I’ve ever even had a thought that hey I might be male, but with that being said, if 84% of people that don’t get support or don’t get the treatment that they need are unaliving themselves I’d rather than be alive and get the treatment that they need then unalive themselves because they don’t get that treatment. And to do that decision in the name of religion or the God that they believe in is ridiculous because I’m pretty sure as a Christian God does not also believe in murdering people and that’s basically what they’re doing. I’m very much for what you said. In the beginning of this topic you don’t have to believe in it, but you don’t have to make a law that hurt somebody else from doing what they believe in. This makes me sick because I am not a Mormon, but Mormons are very much a part of Christianity. In the sense that they do believe in God and for them to have this attitude only turns more people away from the church and the name of some thing that is not in the name of God because this is not God. I’m sorry if this seems like I’m ranting, but I just wanted you to know that there are people that are Christians or that believe in God or religion that do not believe in what Utah is doing.
Consider this:
Children are being taught false ideas about their true and real sex. They're being taught that efforts to mask their sex, based on their personality and interests might make them happy. But that's not factual--it's based on gender theory. And gender theory is false: we know that personality and interests do not negate whether a person is truly, actually male or female.
But, the unaliving is not improving, after these "affirmation" treatments. There is real evidence that shows it isn't helping mortality rates! What's even more horrific it's that it's known that this "affirmation" is causing serious, extensive physical harm.
It's not ethical to interfere with a child's natural maturity. Children may very well be distressed with strong dysphoria regarding their sex (and yes, extremely so. Although, it's normal for children to be uncomfortable with puberty!). But this is no justification for lying to them to say their sex can be changed, because it can't! They should instead be assured that their interests and personality are perfectly ok for their true gender, which is the same as their sex (even if that personality goes against typical stereotypes).
Children deserve to be able to grow to adulthood, with their functioning sex characteristics, before any treatment interferes! Children do not comprehend the ramifications before they mature!!
And, yes, I'm from Utah, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the nickname Mormon is not one we actually use for ourselves, but it's understandable that it's mistakenly used). And, yes, very much Christian!
Although, I think we can have this determination against gender theory "affirmation" across faiths and creeds. It's a crime against humanity, for sure.
There’s an intersex history class publishing papers of kids who are saying specific people were trans throughout history.
For example elagabulus, people are pretending this stuff is historical fact
While I’m terrified about this, 1000% disagree re: prosecuting nurses. The presumption of advertising is that this is legal and allowed. While still shady af on the Nurses’ part, still legal. I don’t remember being asked about credit hours, clinical, etc. when I took the NCLeX or having to sign anything. My school sent everything in to approve me to sit for the NCLEX and I was notified when I could take it.
When you register for pearson it asks you to verify you went to an approved school, and did all the stuff.