Condition, Date, and Mint can all turn a stack piece into a numismatic piece. This is why it's still fun to get an unknown roll/bag of stuff and sort through it to see if you got a lucky find :) If wholesale value (i.e. around Greysheet) is near melt, it will usually go into the stack pile for me.
Great question. I pretty much draw the line at 20th century subsidiary coinage: dimes, quarters, and halves. I intentionally hunt for higher quality pieces, so nice condition is just what I stack and it's icing on the cake. I don't stack cull dollars, but the dozen or so that I have I would be fine considering them to be 90%.
40 years ago I think I remember Junk Silver being anything you could find to sell, because the price of Silver was so high. And the word Cull, I think someone stole that term from a Pig Farmer. I go buy, as an example, it's a VG, Slightly Cleaned, with someone's initials scratched on the back.
If you would ask Ken Bassett or Leroy Van Alan they would say, you can not make Pre-1964 coins and as time passes they will become more rare, more valued and even the lower value coins will become more likely to be Gradable. I think I heard that somewhere.
Great questions/topic! I guess for me, if I'm buying dimes/quarters/half 90% in bulk and at or below spot, they go in my weight pile/tubes. However, just because you buy something at spot or something with a low premium, doesn’t necessarily mean it's just weight because you may have just gotten a great deal on it or maybe the person didnt know what the numismatics value of such coin was. Mintage on certain coins will potential put them in a numismatic group. Just my thoughts. Great video KANSAS! 👍
Hey good topic, i was stumped by this on my recent video! Great looking table set you got there! Ooooh nice Seated Half! I think barbers are officially in the realm of Numismatic / Constitutional, first full on cross over! Barber values is crazy if you look them up! So i just thought about this rationally, I think any coin that doesn't need to be date searched for value is Constitutional aka Junk silver... Anything that you have to stop and look for key dates to asess real value, has crossed over to numismatics... So junk is really limited to washingtons, rosies, 40%, jfks, war nickels / on the cusp is Benji's, Merc. dimes & SlQ quarters... makes sense right? Great talk... I'd never trade in barbers, morgans, peace or walkers for normal face value...
I was able to find some Barber coins and a few Seated coins that were cheap enough in 2022 for the Treasure Chest challenge I did that year. Along with some Peace and Morgan's that were slicked or otherwise damaged. Along with a lot of Standing Liberty quarters (mostly slicks and partial dates.)
@@TheKANSASKIDD in 2022 most junk coins were averaging about 17X to about 20 X. So if a damaged Peace or Morgan dollar was seen for about 20X or less, I'd get them. I got 5 Barber half dollars, some what slicked and damaged a bit for $9.25 each. That made them some of the cheapest half dollars I was able to get that year.
If i lived in America constitutional silver would be a big target to stack great video sir thank you for your channel stickers you sent me take care my friend and happy stacking from English Dave 😃
BTW the 89% coins have more silver per cent. The war nickels contain more silver than the half dimes, too. So it's really a hodge podge if we're talking ASW. I won't even get into the US Phillipines issues.
@@addictedtominisandlovingit3912 And that was my argument on Morgans. Even though they contain more silver than 2 halves....it all falls into the same general category
I completely understand, I have some Morgan's that are near mint state, and I got some that aren't so nice, anything seated or barber would be numismatics pieces
What!? Huh!? I could carry 2 silver dollars in the same pocket, for the same amount of time, weigh them, and they wouldn't weigh the same. And KANSAS KIDD, I had to laugh. I have bought single item high price numis in 90% and i just take em out of the sleeve, throw em the mixed tube and BAM! I'M DONE! 😂 ITS ALL GONNA BE MONEY AGAIN SOMEDAY! When we get to that point, there ain't gonna be collecting anymore.
Excellent video topic and I fully agree with you and others in the chat, at work presently and it would be a repeat of your words and other's in the comments 👍🔥💯🐦🔥
Since I can get 40% half dollars for under melt and War nickels as well, so I will buy them for stacking. Not to mention the 40% Ike's which I have some, and if my coin dealer had a sack with some in it for under melt, I'd likely buy them too.
People love the constitutional stuff but it's a very small part of my stack because I don't like dealing with fractional %'s and I feel like too many people will still associate formerly circulated coins with their face value, not dealing with that if shtf.
@gwilson664 interesting. Usually prepper stackers go for the constitutional silver. I can definitely see that with foreign silver. I just think over time the premiums with jump up pretty high on it! Only time will tell! Appreciate it 👊
Everything is this video is ‘constitutional’ But the line 3:43 is drawn at price. Anything above 20x face, or whatever the going rate is, is numismatic.
@ordinaryman1904 Would you pay more for a common date of the same year that was in much better condition? Does condition turn coins Into Numismatic pieces?
@@TheKANSASKIDD to the first question; yes, I willingly pay more for BU , than Average Circulation. Second question; no, only rarity can do that. So that makes the third sentence of my first comment, incorrect.
I call ALL gold and silver coinage minted as currency in the USA as Constitutional Silver and Gold :-) I dont stack the high premium stuff as it all has the same core value. A seated liberty and a Washington are both the same to me. I am not a coin collector. I turn away from the 40% silver as it is the beginning of our constitutional debasement. Just some quick thoughts. (I reserve the right to change my mind LOL)
While silver dollars are basically Constitutional Silver, I think most stackers and dealers look at them differently. When you shop online dealers for 90% or Constitutional silver, they offer deals on dimes, quarters and halves usually. Morgans and Peace dollars always seem to be in their own category with premiums usually higher. I myself do stack them but consider them different. Another thing stackers need to do is go thru their stacks before considering selling any. Not all coins are the same. If you had a 1916-D Mercury with all the rest of your mercury dimes, and you sell the lot, you will get the silver value only. That coin is worth much more, but the dealer usually just runs the batch thru a machine to count them and will never look at them till maybe later. You can lose a lot of money that way. It pays to look at your coins before just throwing them in a jar or tube with all the others.
Everyone who thinks transgenderism is this new woke GenZ thing clearly never met a slick barber. She's handsome. I am not sure that answers your question.
There is a technical definition, and there is a practical definition. I consider all of the Silver dollars to be Constitutional, so long as they are $50 or less. I consider all of the 90% half dollars as Constitutional, so long as they are $25 or below. I consider any 90% quarters as Constitutional, so long as they are $12.50 or below. I consider any 90% dimes as Constitutional, so long as they are $6.25 or below. So this is just a practical grouping of mine, not a technical grouping. I consider all of these prices to be affordable. That does NOT mean that I necessarily buy at these prices. I just would categorize them in the Constitutional Silver or Junk Silver category at those prices. For example, I have probably 16 ounces of various Barber coins that I don't count as part of my core stack, but that I do purchase when they are affordable. I just put them in an ancillary or what I often call a "sellable stack" that I use to insulate my core stack from having to be sold on in anything but the most dire of circumstances. So if I buy a slicked out Barber half for $11 or $12, it goes right into that little collection as a piece of Junk or Constitutional Silver. My core stack is 50% Constitutional and $50 .999 bullion. The Constitutional side is proportional and it's made up of Peace & Morgan dollars, Walking Liberty, Franklin, '64 Kennedy halves, Washington quarters, and Mercury & Roosevelt dimes. It's all proportional, so if I have 200 Silver dollars even divided between Morgans & Peace, that means I have 400 half dollars spread as evenly as possible between my 3 options. If I have that, then I also have 800 Washington quarters and 1,600 dimes split between the two options there. Anything like Standing Liberty, Barber, or Seateds are usually fairly slick and are put in one of my ancillary or sellable stacks. The bullion side of my stack is divided into thirds between government minted bullion, generic 1 ounce rounds, and generic 1 ounce bars. The government minted third is about 85% ASEs, and the remaining 15% is made up of Maples, Libertads, Britannias, Philharmonics, and Krugerrands. I keep quite a few other stacks that I build slowly with anywhere from 2 to 5 ounces per year. Some are ASEs. Some are all 90% Constitutional, some are older slicked out 90% coins, and some are a mixure of rounds, bars, ASEs, and Constitutional. Many of these stacks are intended to be given away at some point, but if there is an emergency in the meantime, I can always pull from these stacks, rather than to have to bleed my own stack to take care of a problem. I also keep cash outside of the banking system to accomplish a similar kind of insulation, not wanting to rob from my sellable stacks unless it's truly necessary. However, I recognize that with the dollar being setup and designed to fail at this point, that may not be a useful strategy for much longer. So my Junk Silver grouping is just based on affordability. You start getting to $50 for less than a full ounce of Silver, then I starting thinking about numismatics. I really don't eve consider that unless or until it rises above that level. Most of my Silver dollars are purchased for between $26 to $32, and my other Constitutional is obviously even significantly cheaper than that. Technically, I think the classification would be significantly different than the way that I do it. Is it 5% or 15% above spot price? I don't know, and for my purposes, I actually don't care. I'm a dollar-cost-averager, so I just make the best deal I can at the time and purchase. My 40% and my War Nickels are mostly for diversionary stacks designed to be stolen, so I really don't consider them as part of stack of Silver in any sense. Everyone's line is going to be different, probably depending upon experience, understanding, and realistic expectation for the future. I've been doing this for nearly 2 decades, so I'm pretty comfortable with my line at this point. Interesting video...keep stacking!
I stopped stacking 40% because of space issues but I can confess I do have a combo of mercury dime and Rossevelts that need to be graded but some are just for stacking like I have some mercury dimes that I have lost it’s mint state luster I look for mercury dimes to set aside for a grader to make the maximum amount of profits
I can only say what I do. For Stacking I buy Generic Silver Rounds. For Prepping I Buy Detail Grade F+ Silver Dollars and Half Dollars and Bronze Indian Head Pennies. Just for fun I buy all kinds of crazy stuff.
Piles of silver like this make me smile!
@@bobsilver3983 You and me both Bob!
Great video 📸👍🥈👌
Thanks Johnnyb!
Learning is key to building a smart stack. Thumbs up
@@Two-brothers-stacking Absolutely 💯
Condition, Date, and Mint can all turn a stack piece into a numismatic piece. This is why it's still fun to get an unknown roll/bag of stuff and sort through it to see if you got a lucky find :) If wholesale value (i.e. around Greysheet) is near melt, it will usually go into the stack pile for me.
@fgstacker That's a good way to look at it. Yeah, if it stands out enough to me I will separate it out. Mainly just older pieces right now.
I agree with @fgstacker
Great question. I pretty much draw the line at 20th century subsidiary coinage: dimes, quarters, and halves. I intentionally hunt for higher quality pieces, so nice condition is just what I stack and it's icing on the cake. I don't stack cull dollars, but the dozen or so that I have I would be fine considering them to be 90%.
I like it. I think like that as well. Depending on the piece I suppose!! Appreciate it Dub!
Up until 1836 silver Coins in the US were 89% silver.
We also had 75% silver trimester in the 1850's
@@addictedtominisandlovingit3912 Those I would consider to have numismatic value
@@TheKANSASKIDD they do unless they are slicks... then they can be had near melt. Albeit rarely
40 years ago I think I remember Junk Silver being anything you could find to sell, because the price of Silver was so high. And the word Cull, I think someone stole that term from a Pig Farmer. I go buy, as an example, it's a VG, Slightly Cleaned, with someone's initials scratched on the back.
I thought whatever you like is worth stacking. Stacking isn't to get rich. Love me some seated dimes. Great info KK
@unknown1_420 YEAH those seated dimes are real cool
If you would ask Ken Bassett or Leroy Van Alan they would say, you can not make Pre-1964 coins and as time passes they will become more rare, more valued and even the lower value coins will become more likely to be Gradable. I think I heard that somewhere.
Nice pile of Silbers!!!
@@addictedtominisandlovingit3912 Glorious Glitter Metal
@@TheKANSASKIDD Stack it high!!!
Great questions/topic! I guess for me, if I'm buying dimes/quarters/half 90% in bulk and at or below spot, they go in my weight pile/tubes. However, just because you buy something at spot or something with a low premium, doesn’t necessarily mean it's just weight because you may have just gotten a great deal on it or maybe the person didnt know what the numismatics value of such coin was. Mintage on certain coins will potential put them in a numismatic group. Just my thoughts. Great video KANSAS! 👍
Very true SGT 👊
I think there can be a lot of variances
Hey good topic, i was stumped by this on my recent video! Great looking table set you got there! Ooooh nice Seated Half! I think barbers are officially in the realm of Numismatic / Constitutional, first full on cross over! Barber values is crazy if you look them up! So i just thought about this rationally, I think any coin that doesn't need to be date searched for value is Constitutional aka Junk silver... Anything that you have to stop and look for key dates to asess real value, has crossed over to numismatics... So junk is really limited to washingtons, rosies, 40%, jfks, war nickels / on the cusp is Benji's, Merc. dimes & SlQ quarters... makes sense right? Great talk... I'd never trade in barbers, morgans, peace or walkers for normal face value...
Yes. YES INDEED. That's what I was getting at. Or trying to! Although they are the same, there is a divide that makes them different.
I was able to find some Barber coins and a few Seated coins that were cheap enough in 2022 for the Treasure Chest challenge I did that year. Along with some Peace and Morgan's that were slicked or otherwise damaged. Along with a lot of Standing Liberty quarters (mostly slicks and partial dates.)
Now if they were slicked...I'd stack em at the right price!
@@TheKANSASKIDD in 2022 most junk coins were averaging about 17X to about 20 X. So if a damaged Peace or Morgan dollar was seen for about 20X or less, I'd get them. I got 5 Barber half dollars, some what slicked and damaged a bit for $9.25 each. That made them some of the cheapest half dollars I was able to get that year.
Nice stack.
@@Tomscoins2021 Glorious Glitter Metal
If i lived in America constitutional silver would be a big target to stack great video sir thank you for your channel stickers you sent me take care my friend and happy stacking from English Dave 😃
@@DaveRichardson-v6f Hey!!! English Dave!!! Good to see ya!
BTW the 89% coins have more silver per cent. The war nickels contain more silver than the half dimes, too. So it's really a hodge podge if we're talking ASW. I won't even get into the US Phillipines issues.
@@addictedtominisandlovingit3912 And that was my argument on Morgans. Even though they contain more silver than 2 halves....it all falls into the same general category
@@TheKANSASKIDD I am with ya, boss.
I completely understand, I have some Morgan's that are near mint state, and I got some that aren't so nice, anything seated or barber would be numismatics pieces
@@sestacker YES! Morgans are a perfect example.
Danggg nice looking 90% stack you got going there brother!
Stackin it up TarHeel!!! Appreciate it!
I also consider common date silver dollars as junk silver. High premium junk. Common date Barbers are also high premium junk.
@@tomtharos4440 Agree. They are all lumped in together
What!? Huh!? I could carry 2 silver dollars in the same pocket, for the same amount of time, weigh them, and they wouldn't weigh the same. And KANSAS KIDD, I had to laugh. I have bought single item high price numis in 90% and i just take em out of the sleeve, throw em the mixed tube and BAM! I'M DONE! 😂 ITS ALL GONNA BE MONEY AGAIN SOMEDAY! When we get to that point, there ain't gonna be collecting anymore.
@@THECRANKYONE That's just it!!! That's what I was curious about. 💲💲💲
Semantics... constitutional coinage = all coins minted by the US since 1786
@@addictedtominisandlovingit3912 Very true. They continue to mint silver coins even today
Excellent video topic and I fully agree with you and others in the chat, at work presently and it would be a repeat of your words and other's in the comments 👍🔥💯🐦🔥
Agree!! Appreciate it Tbird!!!
Since I can get 40% half dollars for under melt and War nickels as well, so I will buy them for stacking. Not to mention the 40% Ike's which I have some, and if my coin dealer had a sack with some in it for under melt, I'd likely buy them too.
Yep. I agree
People love the constitutional stuff but it's a very small part of my stack because I don't like dealing with fractional %'s and I feel like too many people will still associate formerly circulated coins with their face value, not dealing with that if shtf.
@gwilson664 interesting. Usually prepper stackers go for the constitutional silver. I can definitely see that with foreign silver. I just think over time the premiums with jump up pretty high on it! Only time will tell! Appreciate it 👊
Everything is this video is ‘constitutional’
But the line 3:43 is drawn at price.
Anything above 20x face, or whatever the going rate is, is numismatic.
I agree
@ordinaryman1904 Would you pay more for a common date of the same year that was in much better condition? Does condition turn coins Into Numismatic pieces?
@@TheKANSASKIDD to the first question; yes, I willingly pay more for BU , than Average Circulation.
Second question; no, only rarity can do that.
So that makes the third sentence of my first comment, incorrect.
I call ALL gold and silver coinage minted as currency in the USA as Constitutional Silver and Gold :-)
I dont stack the high premium stuff as it all has the same core value. A seated liberty and a Washington are both the same to me. I am not a coin collector. I turn away from the 40% silver as it is the beginning of our constitutional debasement. Just some quick thoughts. (I reserve the right to change my mind LOL)
@WorldMoneyWins I understand your thinking. Core value is a real thing (silver is silver) Minds change.......and can be changed lol 😆
While silver dollars are basically Constitutional Silver, I think most stackers and dealers look at them differently. When you shop online dealers for 90% or Constitutional silver, they offer deals on dimes, quarters and halves usually. Morgans and Peace dollars always seem to be in their own category with premiums usually higher. I myself do stack them but consider them different. Another thing stackers need to do is go thru their stacks before considering selling any. Not all coins are the same. If you had a 1916-D Mercury with all the rest of your mercury dimes, and you sell the lot, you will get the silver value only. That coin is worth much more, but the dealer usually just runs the batch thru a machine to count them and will never look at them till maybe later. You can lose a lot of money that way. It pays to look at your coins before just throwing them in a jar or tube with all the others.
@@walterswanson3867 Absolutely! Fantastic advice. You could have the needle in the haystack!
Any numismatic value technically kicks it above junk silver. Most morgans would be considered to have some numismatic value unless they are culls.
I agree Obo 2. Cull morgans can be stacked. With no concern of damaging and value. Stack em deep!
I would say it really depends on conditions or if the coin has been cleaned and the date
@@jparkersilverstacker5128 Absolutely. Lots of factors that can contribute
Everyone who thinks transgenderism is this new woke GenZ thing clearly never met a slick barber. She's handsome. I am not sure that answers your question.
@@Steve_aka_Fish 😂😂😂 IT actually makes perfect sense!! Lol
There is a technical definition, and there is a practical definition. I consider all of the Silver dollars to be Constitutional, so long as they are $50 or less. I consider all of the 90% half dollars as Constitutional, so long as they are $25 or below. I consider any 90% quarters as Constitutional, so long as they are $12.50 or below. I consider any 90% dimes as Constitutional, so long as they are $6.25 or below. So this is just a practical grouping of mine, not a technical grouping. I consider all of these prices to be affordable. That does NOT mean that I necessarily buy at these prices. I just would categorize them in the Constitutional Silver or Junk Silver category at those prices. For example, I have probably 16 ounces of various Barber coins that I don't count as part of my core stack, but that I do purchase when they are affordable. I just put them in an ancillary or what I often call a "sellable stack" that I use to insulate my core stack from having to be sold on in anything but the most dire of circumstances. So if I buy a slicked out Barber half for $11 or $12, it goes right into that little collection as a piece of Junk or Constitutional Silver. My core stack is 50% Constitutional and $50 .999 bullion. The Constitutional side is proportional and it's made up of Peace & Morgan dollars, Walking Liberty, Franklin, '64 Kennedy halves, Washington quarters, and Mercury & Roosevelt dimes. It's all proportional, so if I have 200 Silver dollars even divided between Morgans & Peace, that means I have 400 half dollars spread as evenly as possible between my 3 options. If I have that, then I also have 800 Washington quarters and 1,600 dimes split between the two options there. Anything like Standing Liberty, Barber, or Seateds are usually fairly slick and are put in one of my ancillary or sellable stacks. The bullion side of my stack is divided into thirds between government minted bullion, generic 1 ounce rounds, and generic 1 ounce bars. The government minted third is about 85% ASEs, and the remaining 15% is made up of Maples, Libertads, Britannias, Philharmonics, and Krugerrands. I keep quite a few other stacks that I build slowly with anywhere from 2 to 5 ounces per year. Some are ASEs. Some are all 90% Constitutional, some are older slicked out 90% coins, and some are a mixure of rounds, bars, ASEs, and Constitutional. Many of these stacks are intended to be given away at some point, but if there is an emergency in the meantime, I can always pull from these stacks, rather than to have to bleed my own stack to take care of a problem. I also keep cash outside of the banking system to accomplish a similar kind of insulation, not wanting to rob from my sellable stacks unless it's truly necessary. However, I recognize that with the dollar being setup and designed to fail at this point, that may not be a useful strategy for much longer. So my Junk Silver grouping is just based on affordability. You start getting to $50 for less than a full ounce of Silver, then I starting thinking about numismatics. I really don't eve consider that unless or until it rises above that level. Most of my Silver dollars are purchased for between $26 to $32, and my other Constitutional is obviously even significantly cheaper than that. Technically, I think the classification would be significantly different than the way that I do it. Is it 5% or 15% above spot price? I don't know, and for my purposes, I actually don't care. I'm a dollar-cost-averager, so I just make the best deal I can at the time and purchase. My 40% and my War Nickels are mostly for diversionary stacks designed to be stolen, so I really don't consider them as part of stack of Silver in any sense. Everyone's line is going to be different, probably depending upon experience, understanding, and realistic expectation for the future. I've been doing this for nearly 2 decades, so I'm pretty comfortable with my line at this point. Interesting video...keep stacking!
I stopped stacking 40% because of space issues but I can confess I do have a combo of mercury dime and Rossevelts that need to be graded but some are just for stacking like I have some mercury dimes that I have lost it’s mint state luster I look for mercury dimes to set aside for a grader to make the maximum amount of profits
@@josephlopez1247 They are definitely worth looking through to see what you really have.
@@TheKANSASKIDD should I trade 7 40% Kennedy half dollars for an American Silver Eagle??
@@josephlopez1247 IN my opinion, if you could do that. Absolutely
I sell 40% that I get. Got 8 tubes last weekend at 35 a POP. I stack it all at spot or for free!
I can only say what I do. For Stacking I buy Generic Silver Rounds. For Prepping I Buy Detail Grade F+ Silver Dollars and Half Dollars and Bronze Indian Head Pennies. Just for fun I buy all kinds of crazy stuff.
I like it
Strictly speaking ASE's are constitutional silver, so are the 90% and now .999 commemorative dollars... and the new Morgans and Peace... cringe
@@addictedtominisandlovingit3912 Yep. See earlier reply 😂
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