Makin' it Look Easy (Ep. 1) - How we Install a Safe
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Northwest Safe installs up to 50 safes a week. Here's a short clip of how we complete these in home deliveries in a safe and effective manner.
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Watch in reverse for "Makin' it Look Easy - How we Steal a Safe."
lol
I was about to say. Most people probably watched it so they know how to steal one😂
Funny af
LMAO - Criminal Mind !
Nothing is theft proof, but anchoring the safe to the concrete will slow the thief down enough for the cops to respond to the silent alarm the thief is not aware of.
You got it right. Experience with the right equipment. Going down those stairs was impressive.
Do they flip a coin who's below? That dolly motor busting would be a terrible day.
Best safe install video I've found. Most of the videos out their are self-installs, amateurs, or professional movers (but not specifically safe movers). Big difference between those who do it just to get it done, and those who do it to get it done RIGHT.
I worked for a few different moving companies and all we had was a 2 wheel and man power, hating moving a safe. Glad to see people doing it right.
I have been in the Moving industry for 18 years and have moved large safes like in the video and I wish we had the power dolly they had lol. we use a basic dolly with brute strength! We got the job every time but it took a lot of work
I've moved 3 safes not quite as big as the larger one they moved I was by myself with a decent sized appliance dolly. Couldn't imagine trying to go up or down a flight of stairs even with 2-3 healthy sized guys. That power dolly would be worth its weight in gold or maybe even unobtainium
There is a saying in my industry.
_"Work smarter, not harder."_
I think it applies to manual labor jobs just the same as tech jobs.
These boys make that look easy. The right tools always make the job easy. I always wondered how ppl got these into their homes . Thanks for the awesome video
It could be placed on the concrete during building,?
You guys are magicians, awesome equipment and great strategy
Thank you!
When my safe was delivered it was one guy and a furniture dolly. Same thing as when I moved, one little Mexican fella and a dolly. They made it look easy. I bolt mine down to the floor/concrete so it can't be carted off very easily. Had a wood floor once so I put plates under the floor to hold the bolts in the safe.
Great job on going the extra mile to bolt the safe down. That makes a huge impact on the security of any safe.
Watching you get the big one down the stairs was amazing.
AWESOME guys! Having the correct tools for the job ALWAYS makes for a better day!
I was waiting for the stairs and got shocked with the trolley. Nice job
That slide matwrial is the same stuff used on snowmobile slides.
Its called UHMW.
You can buy strips at a plastic supplier or buy hyfax slides from a snowmobile dealer
Thank you sir for the information. I researched and ordered it from a company called mcmasters. This will be handy for future use.
Never thought I would be watching a video on moving a safe but...........wow you guys are good !!
Outstanding! You used your brains and made a 1300 pound safe look easy.
lol, ive moved a lot of safes, never had any of these tools. good for these guys.
These guys make every delivery, SAFE-ly
Holy crap, you could not pay me to be the dude standing below the safe when ur lowering it down the stairs... Holy crap
He was safe. The safe wound not fall or roll down the stairs. It is always on the wheels or the toe plate. Even if it did get away with the guy up top pulling and the guy below pushing it would only go down one step before stopping.
@@ajaj6784 that’s the dumbest comment of the day
Very safe work. lol
I would still be nervous though if i'm the guy at the bottom of the steps, depending on a mechanical device to not fail. Still, nice work.
Watching your guys bring my 800 lb safe in and lift it onto a pedestal I built (about 4" high) without damaging
anything was impressive. They were very careful to center it on the pedestal and to slide it against the wall.
I had to drill some holes in the back of the safe so I could bolt it to the wall studs, but that was pretty easy
because I have a very high quality studfinder (Franklin Prosensor 710, IIRC). It would be really tough to
remove the safe without opening the door - the bolts I used are hardened steel, and there are more of
them than if I'd done a floor mount.
I'm pretty sure I'll be hiring you guys again whenever I move - I could do it myself, but it might be worth
the cost to have someone with the right tools come and move it for me - and if I hire someone, it will be you.
Thanks for the feedback. We're really proud of our delivery crews. Tough job but they make it look easy. Thanks again!
couldn't you just sawzall right across the studs through the sheetrock?
@@classicjag76 At the top, but you would have to get the bottom too. You could also grind through the side of the safe. At some point, if somebody wants it they will get it.
Cool. My installers used small diameter, Schedule 80 PVC to roll my safe in. It was pretty slick but this is really nice as well.
We use PVC rollers also depending on the application. Simple, cheap and they get the job done.
Glad too see that you all moved past the good old humpstrap.
Guys that did mine used 4 pcv pipes and kept rotating under safe was fast and effortless but I like the slick sticks
yes
We still use pvc or steel pipes depending on the delivery. Simple works.
WOW A Professional at work. This is an art all by itself. Great job guys.
Thank you!
We use a PowerMate stair climber pretty often, but those slick sticks are the best thing I've seen yet! I'm going to be making a set of those.
Yeah right. You are just gonna order some from Amazon.
The "Slick Sticks" Can be purchased from Security Centers Inc.
(918) 627-7979
@@thomasrobinette3227 Did you find them on Amazon? I couldn't.
@@NWSafe no I didn't even look. I was just trolling Matthew anthony
@@NWSafe I ordered me a set of Slick Sticks, but I notice yall had a sheet of metal that you put under safe. Is that just something extra you came up with to make it easier? Can you use without?
"Slick sticks" thanks for dropping the name. U just made my job easier
I used one of those power dolly's before to move a monster wood stove. Once you figure out how they work, they're awesome.
Agreed. We've used ours also for wood stoves along with other commercial equipment like Ice Cream Machines, Fire Control Units, bath tubs and more.
@@NWSafe Stop putting a guy at the bottom the safe will fall and kill him one day you morons
Good deal...talk about getting it done! Interesting vid to watch.
I delivered safes for over 15 years in San Jose. We helped the owner of ultra Lyft develop that stair climber. I invented a lot of these techniques shown here. Should have patented my slick sticks. Can’t believe you slick stick the whole way with the smaller safe. I had developed a twelve wheel dolly with rubber wheels that could swivel and take any safe thru the house.
Whatever happened with your invention?
@@xxxxxx-rm2pn I made a few for our shops. I never patented the design. They still use them. I got out of the safe game. Looks my slick sticks have taken off.
i used several dowels when i moved my safe. Pretty easy to move around. Didn't have to deal with stairs though, went in the garage door and straight into the basement
Dowels are simple, cheap and work great. We use those depending on the application.
Wish we had you here in the mid-atlantic. No one is this area.
Sounds like a business opportunity
Not sure where you are but I had Dominion Lock and Key in Mechanicsville VA deliver a 1150 lb Fort Knox safe and the two guys who put it into place did a great job. They definitely knew how to move safes. When it was time for me to move, well that was a different story as the moving company hired supposedly safe movers. When you see a pry bar come out, you know there's going to be a problem. Only silver lining was that they scratched the front below the door and I managed to get $1000.00 from the insurance company making an overpriced safe a little more palatable. If I ever get another safe, it would probably be an AMSEC.
Great work! Thanks.
At least they parked so all his neighbors can see he's got a couple nice safes now.
Good luck these people have money i.e cameras guns lock doors n safes
Not exactly a rough neighborhood, already delivered to most of the "neighbors"
Box of baseballs works pretty well for moving them around.
In a pinch, sure. But that creates point loads, and if the floor isn't level, it can get away from you. (I've used pipes and rods before.)
You guys are the Best!👍
What a sweet dolly.....Wow!
Borrowed from Hanibal Lector after the Italian inspectors murder.
I’ve moved a safe the size of the white one. It looks small and not so tough but it was not easy at all. Especially for an older out of shape guy who knows nothing about moving heavy things.
If I ever purchased another bigger one or even another one the same size I would pay the movers.
Anyone that comes to this video looking for info on gun safes should know the truth. I've been in law enforcement my whole life, been to hundreds of home break-in's and I can tell you without a doubt that you don't need a huge heavy safe to protect your firearms and other valuables. You simply need something they can't easily grab and run off with. Get something that you can secure in place, that is lockable, and not easy to break into with a hammer or something similar. 99.9% of the thieves who break into your home have almost nothing with them that can be used to break into a $50 firesafe, you simply have to lock it down in some fashion to prevent them from grabbing it and running off with it.
On the other hand, it shows clearly that anyone who is out for the safe can move it easily with the right tools.
@@lifepolicy Which is why you want to bolt the safe down.
The truth is cheap entry level safes are broken into all the time. The truth is everyone has different needs depending on the value they're protecting. If you're securing very little in valuables then by all means buy a cheap safe. But for those who are protecting tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars in valuables then we think it's foolish to use a cheap entry level safe. Isn't' it reasonable for someone to at least invest the same amount into a quality safe as they do their appliances? A quality safe last a lifetime and is passed through a family for generations. We've been doing this for over 30 years and have seen cheap safes work, we've also seen them fail in situations where a "huge heavy safe" would have kept the thieves out. In the end it's all relative to what you're protecting. Some people need a "huge heavy safe" but many do not.
You'll have it forever and possible pass it down to your kids. Buy the biggest and best you can afford, within reason. You won't regret it.
Bolt it down if you can and keep out of sight if you can.
@@derfskittlers6125 I know far too many people who used that mentality when purchasing their safe and now they have this HUGE beautiful thing that they can't move, even if they wanted to. Truth is, talk to any law enforcement officer and they can tell you how many home burglaries they get annually that someone was able to break into or flat out steal their smaller, less built up safe. I can answer that......after almost 20yrs of law enforcement in a major metropolitan department, the answer is ZERO! 99.9% of the crooks go in with nothing, use your bags to pack up loose shit that is easy to carry and leave.
Now if you live out in the boonies where a crook can pull up in his truck and he bought a bunch of Bubba's with him, well then, maybe you need something big and heavy.
That white safe is a beaut.
I think that's how they moved the blocks when they built the pyramids. 😂😂😂
The only difference I think was that the Egyptians greased the tracks with bees wax.
With electric hand carts?
That was classy.
I played it backwards. These guys are very smooth criminals.
LOL
Nice job gentleman!!
Try using an AirSled, will make going on floors lot faster n easier
Where do you buy the sticks? I just installed a 40 gun safe and still recovering from it.
Not bought, but simply made. From the video, the wood looks to be 1x3s or so, and the plastic is more than likely UHMW. Buy UHMW sheets and cut into strips, attach them onto the wood and you've got yourself a slick sliding pad that mimics those in the video. For other purposes requiring more weight capacity, you can just take a few square stock pieces, say 5/8" thick 10" x 10" sheet for example, and if you know someone who has a mill to cut out a step on it and you can use that on moving heavy machinery as well. Very low coefficient of friction makes it excellent for extremely heavy loads, far heavier than any of those safes. We used it under a 5-ton lathe to maneuver into a particular final position and that was baby stuff for those riggers. I will be machining some custom UHMW pads to move out some lathes in my garage this summer.
$10-15 worth of 1/2” PVC is *ALL YOU NEED!!!* Cut into 3-4 foot long pieces...lay them down like ladder rungs and she’ll slide like on ice! As you slide (or roll) off of one, just lay it in front of the safe and keep on sliding! Turn them longways in doorways and it’ll slide down them effortlessly. I just moved my 780lb beast *BY MYSELF* using this method (for the second time) and I weigh 165lbs and have three fused vertebrae in my neck and a torn rotator cuff!
Note: SMALLER diameter PVC has a MUCH HIGHER crush resistance than, say, 1” or 1.5” (look it up and you’ll be shocked how much weight 1/2 or 1/4 inch can withstand. 😉👍
@@69CamaroSS Exactly. I used this method as a store remodel planner whenever the safe moving company was late or didn’t show up for the cash office move. Very simple and quick.
You can definitely track down the materials and make them like Robert described below but we purchase ours from Security Centers in Tulsa, OK.
@@69CamaroSS Yup, PVC works great and we still use it today. The sticks however are better at spreading out weight, protecting flooring, going over transitions/ steps and I wouldn't recommend using rollers when travelling over carpet. You can end up stretching it and ending up with a big roll behind the safe.
Another case of... I'd definitely rather be the guy on top 😂 🤣
Work at liberty for several years in college, I’ve installed thousands of safes, great times
Would love a safe like this.
I used to build and install fitness equipment. Door ways and stairs were a nightmare sometimes. Disassemble the machine and still awkwardly carry 200+ lbs up.
How do you make or where do you buy those slick sticks? They are amazing.
yeah I like that cart/dolly...
Wow, beautiful job.
Well done Gentlemen 🙌👏👊
very professional
Now let’s see how you move it out of the house. Asking for a friend. 😜
It's now a part of the house.
Good luck with a BIG safe. That one is puny compared to my Ft. Knox. Pipes on the floor much easier.
Yeah, if you don't care about your floors.
Pipes work but in general we find the track safer, faster and easier because you don't have to keep transferring the pipes.
@@NWSafe thick walled plastic pipes work great.. Remember the saying----"put the safe where it will always end up----which is in the basement".
You can also move safes using softballs. No really , that's how I moved mine. Worked great but no stairs
Yes! I've even seen safes rolled and moved using plastic water bottles. Golf Balls are popular too.
Big beautiful house. Craftsmanship abounds. But those welds on the stair railing rods are UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGLY!!!!!!!!
I noticed that too
The tuffest one I had to do was a piano down 15 steps and of course I was on the bottom.
We try to stay away from pianos.
Just saw the video for the first time - awesome having the right tools. Would be very interested in getting some slick sticks but having no luck finding them. Any suggestion?
Contact Security Centers in Tulsa, OK
@@NWSafe Thank you!
They didn't bolt it down. In the UK, insurance companies want to see any safe weighing less than one ton (2240lbs) fixed securely. As the video says, they made moving it look easy..
We encourage all safes be bolted down. Even the ones that weigh over one ton. In the end it's at the customers discretion.
Are you guys in Texas??
Near Seattle, WA
The guy at the bottom of the stairs has the most dangerous job. If the safe slides of the stairs he is a dead man
"Where are we going to put it sir?"
"Oh, how about in front of the electrical panel? That's where everyone stores their things."
Where can I buy those moving sticks? You guys made that look easy but I know its not.
"Slick Sticks" Are made by Security Centers Inc.
918-627-7979
Nice job!! Where could I find those moving blankets you have on the stairs? Everything I have searched for is much wider. Thanks!
We use 24" x 60" Carpet Floor Runners on the stairs. We purchased these at Fred Meyer and they're made by a Mowhawk.
@@NWSafe Thanks for the info! Again terrific video!
i need you guys asap
Questions:
1) Can residential wood stairs handle a large safe?
2) My stairs have a landing with a 90* turn. Is that possible?
Yes. On a regular basis we're taking safe that weight 1000-1600 lbs. up stairs. Also, most gun safes are designed to be set on a wood subfloor. 90° corners/landings are possible but sometimes they will be the limiting factor when it comes to the size of safe you can fit.
Defiantly not going to be moving my safes like that haha.
I never get professionals like this when I hire people, it's always Beavis and Butthead that show up. Real question though, when you put those pads under the safe, doesn't it create a gap? If there's a gap it would be easier to pry from under the safe or cut the anchor bolts.
It does create a gap but it is extremely difficult to cut or pry. Setting the safe flat on the floor, especially bare concrete creates other issues so we think the small gap is justified.
What are those sliders made of, nylon?
UMHW or HDPE.
I would have covered them until they got into the garage at least. Why would I want the neighbors to know what I have?
The sign NW Safe on the side of the delivery truck told the neighbors
This customer doesn’t have neighbors
Smooth!
Those slick sticks, where do I get some? 😍😍😍
Security Centers Inc in Tulsa, OK
That 1 the door come off and make big differences
Seeing it done right makes me cringe when I think how we attempted to deliver a gun safe as two men and a truck. We faced a driveway with a terrifying incline and then down a flight of stairs. We had to quit halfway through so we wouldn't destroy the mans floors. He ended up stiffing us on the bill, Can't say I blame him...
Unfortunately it's pretty common that we get hired to finish a job the "movers" bailed on.
Been moving safes for 37 years up and down the stairs, never seen it done like that before. You must charge a lot and charge by the hour. Never seen it done like that, that's not the way real safe movers do it.
I'd be curious to see a safer and more efficient way to move a safe down stairs other than using a motorized climber. I think this is the most efficient and affordable method for all parties involved. The climber gives you ultimate control. We've been at this since 1988 and our crews move and install over 2,000 safes every year. I thought that would put us in the same category as "real safe movers" but I guess that's what we can aspire to be when we grow up. ;-)
@@NWSafe What happens when you hit a dog leg stares when you can't use stair climber Most time stair climbers are used a damage the stairs Seen it many times in my travels 37 years on the job with 60 years knowledge my dad started the business and now I'm continuing it You guys always show the easiest scenarios Try showing a difficult one
@@philborris8837 How would you do it then Phil?
What is the board that you are putting under the safe to slide on the slick sticks? Thank you!
It's a sheet of Delrin Plastic to ensure smooth sliding across the sticks. Most Liberty Safes don't need it because of the time they put into finishing and painting the body but most safes have unfinished bottoms or the edges are so rough it's nearly impossible to slide the safe across the sticks and if you do it peels material or puts divots in the slick sticks wearing them out faster.
Thanks
Hey, been moving safe my entire life about 16 years now... I can move anything in a commercial setting... recently I’ve been getting a lot of residential jobs with steps involved and I hate it.... I’ve been looking into a stair climber but haven’t yet pulled the trigger... what brand is the one you use in this video?
Thanks and great job
They're using an Ultralift in the video. I sued one briefly an it worked well. I personally use a Lectrotruck. Bought it about 5 years ago. Has held up great. Still using the original battery it came with. I got the all terrain wheels for it as well which is a life saver. Pays for itself pretty quickly if you're sell premium safes.
As Heisenberg replied we are using an Ultralight. The model we use is their 25" which is narrower than standard but when using for mostly residential the smaller machine is better suited.
Love that handtruck. Had a chunk of boiler i couldn't get out with 4 guys. I got the one that climbs stairs and took it up alone. Wound up the piece was 900 lbs.
I was worried about the stairs and screwed i bunch of support under the stairs.
I went through a set of stairs going into a basement from the hallway in a customers house, when i was new. I always wondered about the stairs afterwards.
Have you guys taken out a set of stairs yet.
2:20 - 2:45 that is a really poor job on the stair rail welds
German Welders cannot be anywhere...
Definitely horrible.
@Kenneth Johnson by the looks of it you got your welding certs from youtube. cringe. stop trying to sound like you know what youre talking about
It's a temp rail used during construction, thrown together quickly and replaced with a finished rail at the end of the job. The stairs are not finished either.
@Kenneth Johnson lmao "a lot of money tied up in steel" not everyone lives on food stamps and mccydees drive thrus like you youtube certified redditor welder clown. lol fucking just stop dude
2:28 - I'm not the professional, but I'm pretty sure that's very unsafe (no pun intended). What are you going to do if the other guy loses control? Catch it?
Yeah if you're going to be the one on the bottom you have to put down your purse and take out your tampon ahead of time
It can be very dangerous. I've done it many times. If you take your time and are careful it shouldn't be a problem. But always be ready to move fast on the underside. Also if you arent sure the person running the machine is strong enough don't let them run it. I ran into that a couple times and refused to allow them to run it. You have to trust your partner.
Didn't Dr. Hannibal Lector use one of those special hand trucks in one of his movies?
How much did that second safe weight? Looks like a monster?
National Classic Plus 50 weighs about 1,500 LBS.
Wish I had that hydraulic dolly for the times I moved my 880 pounder up and down stairs. I use a roller dolly for single story and it works GREAT!
Nice job.
Do you make your own slick sticks or can they be purchased?
Slick Sticks can be purchased through Security Centers Inc. 918-627-7979
@@NWSafe thank you so much!
Looks like ptex strips screwed onto strips.
Look like I know what I’m
Doing with a few of my scraps.
Why do they slide it across the garage floor on the stick instead of wheeling it? Are they worried about the epoxy coating on the garage floor?
Hey guys, great video! I’am waiting for the delivery of a Browning gun safe an I fear the delivery guys do not have the right equipment for in House moving. I have to go thru a small doorframe and want to ask you what the slicksticks are made of exactly? I want to build them myself. For explanation I live in Germany.
The top of the sticks are UMHW attached to a wood base with a non-marking foam on the bottom. They can be purchased from Security Centers Inc. in Tulsa, OK (918) 627-7979
that was cool
Flooring guys need your techniques.
Finishing flooring against a safe instead of moving it seems so crazy.
Notice the metal stairs. Wood might not have been able to take that weight.
A staircase built to code would be able to handle the weight. We deliver safes that are in the 1000-1500 lbs. range up and down wood staircases on a regular basis.
@@NWSafe That is astonishing... and many times over code... and double (at 1500 lbs) the limit of what my local safe company will move up wooden residential stairs. You guys must be good!
@@DRBR-2020 Most companies are limited by the capabilities and experience of their technicians than they are limited by the actual structure.
Old house,old staircase..use 4x4 to support stairs for delivery, knocked out after..maybe will collapse if any try carry anything heavy like a safe.
Ever have a safe fall through the floor or stairs?
We've been installing safes since 1988, move thousands of safes every year and have never had that happen.
Safe owner. Mmmm I've changed my mind, let's try it again upstairs.
Super troopers style
It happens...
This is all legit. Except for the Ultralift on the stairs. I use an Ultralift to move fully loaded sound racks (around 800 pounds). We had a situation where the actual stair that the right side wheel was on collapsed and we lost the lift and sound rack. Anybody below it would have been killed.
Where can I buy that white safe at the beginning of the video? I looked on your Website and don’t see it?? Please let me know. Thank You
I didn’t search for this video, did you?
The poor guy standing below the thing ...
Just incase it breaks he can hold it 😂
Where can I get those slick sticks.
Call Security Centers 918-627-7979
making it look easy -