Oh wow, I used one of these when I worked on DS games at Ubisoft. Ours had the video upgrade but not wireless, and the software was *horrible* to work with. Ours also never had the full OS on it; the tools at the time were a customized version of CodeWarrior, and the debugger pretty much didn't work. We only worked on one game during the launch window, though, and then my studio was reassigned to work on cellphone games. Oh, and when we started on our game the blue Nitro unit wasn't even available yet - we were doing our test builds on a previous version of the devkit which had only one screen. (It only showed the screen for the primary PPU, which meant that it pretty much showed a 60Hz flicker between the two screens' content because of how their dual-screen stuff worked.)
I really want to work at a place where things like this are used. I also want to keep my current job because the bonuses are insanely great. But I desperately want to work with game developers and absorb their knowledge and skills by helping in any way that I can. But I also want to keep my current bonuses. Ah, dammit, decisions are the worst.
Non-Programmer: WOW These tools look so awesome I feel like a l33t hacker I wonder what they all do I bet I can peek into the history of the games development process. Programmers: GET THAT FUCKING NIGHTMARE OF AN SDK AWAY FROM ME NOW, HOLLY SHIT HOW DID THEY SCREW UP THE DEBUGGER SO BAD! never AgAIN
Yeah I can imagine with the way the Wii/DS platforms worked it was up to Nintendo to make sure everything was as easy as on other platforms (like how Microsoft makes cross platform development super easy nowadays inside of just visual studio). But if they cant provide all of that then that makes the dev. process tedious as shit. It's like trying to use a closed source API that isnt documented at all, or maybe trying to eat sugar with a fork--it just doesnt work out hardly at all
@@naikrovek its 2019, chances are, youd be lucky enough NOT to use this monstrosity >.> depending on what platforms you dev. on. Nintendo has always been probs the hardest since you also need them to approve you and send tools and proprietary hardware to your address... now all you have to do is sign up for a developer application on their portal and if they approve you get to download their whole SDK (you have to be at least 18, by the way) and seeing how things have changed over the years, Nintendo development is becoming alot more like standard PC/console from what I can tell. Huge step up from owning basically a bunch of extra bricks lying around that you dont even own. But if you're in the homebrew community, welcome aboard. Though I'm sure third parties have much better tools for stuff like this ;3
Often yes. Although sometimes they help the common consumer make sense of the system. DS vs Nitro, Switch vs Nitro. Then there's examples like the XBox One X, which they might as well have just have called it Scorpio, because what the hell is an XBox One X?
Fun fact: "DS" was originally another codename; the planned name for the system was the "City Boy." The only reason the DS codename became the official name was that it was that popular among the public and press.
My fondest DS memory is buying a copy of Tetris DS from GameStop and it was a fake. Returned it, got a different one and it was also fake. Their third and last copy was legit.
Reminds me how I bought Metroid Prime Hunters and got a demo cart. I returned it, ordered another one online and got yet another demo cart. I then gave up and got a refund. Hilariously, my GameStop put the demo cart back on the shelf to be sold. smh
Line tripling isn't actually rendering at a higher resolution, it's just drawing the same lines multiple times to fill the screen. Results in big, chunky pixels.
Lamarr Dijey not quite. line multiplication and dot spacing are lossless operations, and can be done in the analog video domain, whereas scaling is done by digitizing the video, applying a scaling algo such as bicubic or nearest neighbor, then either passing on the digital video, or returning it to the analog domain
I was a certified (Still am technically) Nintendo Pre-Certification tester and those unit bring back memories! You wouldnt believe all the little stupid thing that come into Nintendo accepting or not to license a software. It was also used for translation purpose.
In the same building as I was working there was translation done in 15 different language back then and we sometime use those machine to screenshot place where there's text input and transfer those to the traduction department so that they can do their work. We would then back check every screen one by one with a traduction specialist of the current language we were working on. That mean that if they were 200,500,2000 etc. text input, everyone of them was check manually.
For those of you not believing me, just look for Enzyme Testing Labs which is a Company from Quebec that have office all around the world now. If you look my full name up : Marc-Antoine Durand Dallaire you'll easily find proof of my background in the videogame industry. Not everything is on the net but some work and credit are still there ^^
I just realized I bought the same DS Lite Unit as seen in this video off of ebay. And I mean the exact same one, didn't expect that. XD I can tell, because when I got the unit there was a slight tear above the "d" in "Nintendo on the "Confidential Property of Nintendo" Sticker, which can be seen in this video, pretty cool! I currently use it to test my Custom Content for Mario Kart DS (Thanks MKDS3), and soon I'll use it to make help me make Homebrew games.
I'm hard for this. There was a German Gaming TV Channel called GIGA back then and in the DS times they used this box for video output. They were supposedly stupidly expensive back then.
GIGA these days is run by different guys and in fact part of IGN (or was it?) unlike to 2005 when it was still part of NBC Europe. The moderators that many of the viewers got used to eventually started another gaming show on MTV before these guys fired them out of a sudden and ever since they have their own Internet show called Rocketbeans that's actually available here on RUclips as well as Twitch. Dun dun duuun~
@@JohnCena-iw2vk I know, I'm a longtime fan of the GIGA\\GAMES crew albeit I barely got to watch GameOne because it had really fucked up air times on MTV's schedule.
I have that device too, the dslite version, but without video or wifi. The debugging works really well if you make stuff with the official sdk. You can run the software on windows 10 too, but you either have to get the latest signed drivers that come with the software for the is-ctr-debugger (3ds thing), or install the older not correctly signed drivers in unsigned driver mode. You can run retail games, however not directly from a cartridge. You need to use "eNDryptS Advanced.exe" to encrypt a rom dump (nds roms have a little encrypted region which is not encrypted in the dumps you find online). Then you load in the nds with IS-NITRO-DEBUGGER. Put in the cartridge and enable the cart slot (In this order! You may damage the device or the cart if you do it the other way around! You should also turn off the slot again before taking out the cart) so you can use the backup memory and start the game. It should then run just fine. Those devices are not different from a normal ds, other than that some more pins of the system-on-a-chip are used for debugging, that it has 8 MB instead of 4 MB memory and that it contains hardware that emulates a cart (that's also where the name comes from). So it's not possible to view at a higher resolution or something, cause there's simply a chip connected to the lines that go to the display and convert that to a video signal for a tv. It's really interesting that you have a reflashable cartridge by the way. I would really like to have one, but they are barely available and far too expensive too often.
Christmas '07, I got a crimson DS Lite along with New Super Mario Brothers, Mario Kart DS, and Wario Master of Disguise. I played the heck out of those games, and remember messing with modifier codes on the Action Replay DS. Playing Mario Kart DS online was a blast before the wi-fi service shut down. To this day, I still have each of those games, and I use that same, broken DS as an alarm via an R4i 3DS flashcart with the Morning Timer app.
If by "broken" you mean the hinge is damaged you can do a reshell and add new hinge parts. Ifixit should help you but they tend to overstate how complex a thing is
It is still possible to play online at mariokart ds, you just have to patch the game before, and use a custom dns to connect to AltWFC servers.. And find someone also connected x)
SUPER cool hardware! Back in 2006 I went absolutely nuts for the Resident Evil 1 port. I played it so much that I could fly through it in just under an hour, and I would frequently wake up early so I could beat it before school. Starting the day off right!
As I had the DS from probably the age of 11 or less, I had to buy as many games as I could with my pocket money. This meant going into the shop on the market that sold second hand games and using eBay to find something fun to play. The number of fake games I amassed through this through the years was crazy when I look back. At least the fake games continued to work on my DS Lite unlike the fake Gameboy games that seemed so common on eBay where a few years later I'd find myself reflowing the solder on the board around the rom chip to bring them back from the dead. A couple of years after amassing so many fake carts, I remember taking a trip to London with my dad and browsing a few different tech shops before a fellow noticed the DS I was carrying around with me and asked me how I'd like to leave the shop with around 25 games for £20. At this point I didn't know he'd be loading me up an R4 Cartridge. I often wonder - did Nintendo profit at all from software sales? Me and all my friends would only buy new games if they were super cheap, else we shopped second hand and gathered fake and dodgy carts.
I remember finding my old DS system around the end of last year and it still had a full charge, despite me not using it since around 05 or 06! I also remember having my ds lite getting run over and it was still seemingly fine! Although a couple years later the whole thing bricked itself somehow.
Of the dev equipment, this is pretty cool. Especially the ones with video output! Would be really fun to have with the ability to play retail games, though!
The card slot is not for reading games at all, it writes data to those flash carts. The games are streamed through the USB connection directly from the debugging software.
Cool find. Reminds me of when I was lucky enough to get a flash cart for mine to play plenty of the homebrew and emulator titles that were available 10 years ago.Mario 64 and Viewtiful Joe were my favorite retail titles on the system and I even had fun with the Sonic Rush titles.
wbowen05 Time Hollow 999 Sonic Rush Sonic Rush Adventure Pokémon Platinum Sonic Chronicles Dark Brotherhood 1 & 2 (ps did they ever release #2?) & WarioWare ....is the list of my favs, but it had so much variety; I know people who like Nintendogs; Animal Crossing DS; Harvest Moon; and RuneFactory as well (I think those games are all okay, but I know people who love them)
@@niaschim Not only did they never make a sequel to Chronicles, but the first one was left unfinished at release due to Bioware being bought out by EA, and Ken Penders' lawsuits exiled the game from canon
@@kfcnyancat oh I knew about the lawsuits, also I think I was only asking bc I misremembered a friend of mine claiming to have the sequel. Later I learned that I was sane in thinking that was insane, cos I asked them about it
When. I was nine, my mum had an operation abroad to get rid of a brain tumor resting on her optic nerve. At seventy five percent blind she is legally blind. Anyway, when my parents got back they gave me a black DS lite and some games (NSMB and Pokémon - I took about an hour of playing Pokemon to notice that I also got a Mario game!). Waiting for the DS and the Pokemon Fire Red Mystery Dungeon game is what kept me sane. To this day, gaming is my refuge in stressful times. Lovely video, and thanks for asking :-)
DS was pretty much my goto system back in high school, playing stuff like Super Mario 64 DS, Animal Crossing, Castlevania and Mario Kart, though I ended up playing Contra 4 the most on it. Such a badass entry to the series that truly captured what Contra is all about. Also helped that it celebrated the past games and even had the early ones playable as unlockables.
Thanks! That sounds like a very probable explanation. Though you have to admit, it's rather strange to see a standard RJ-45 network connector with "wireless" written next to it ;)
I'm pretty sure you could attach an antenna to the silver peg or even the regular internet port. It'd be wild if it was the peg since the word wireless is kinda centered on that
Apparently, you can connect a development DSi to the IS-NITRO as well. That reveals how video footage was captured to show off applications and DSiWare.
Eddy Studios yea I know I've only played the DS version. I mentioned Yoshi. The 64 version you play as Mario but the DS version you play as Yoshi but I didn't know you csn play as Luigi, and no I haven't completed the game as my younger self was always too scared of the ghosts and water levels lol and pretty much just stuck to that first level as it was too fun. And I did the minigames alot.
Back when the DS was relevant, I used to watch a gaming show on TV that used to own one or two of these devices with the original bulky DS attached to it. Never saw any dev cartridges on their devices which used to sit in a comfortable position so the camera when captured always showed the capture device. Therefore these things MUST be capable of playing retail games! Anything else just makes no sense, if you ask me.
They weren't modded, and there weren't even the same unit, actually. There are two different units Nitro Emulator, and Nitro Capture. And no, Nitro Emulator as seen in this video is indeed not capable of playing retail games. Nitro Capture, however was, which is what you saw in the TV show you're talking about. Nitro Capture units look the same as Nitro Emulators, aside from the lable on the front being different, and lacking the debugging features the Nitro Emulator has. Nitro Capture units were given to reviewers, and TVs shows to capture video from the DS, basically Nintendo's official DS capture card. So yes, other things make perfect sense. ruclips.net/video/nL9n3Mf7Mok/видео.html
ahh, I recall the days I first got my original blue DS. Playing Digimon Dusk and Megaman ZX Advent on the bus, renting various games(many pokemon) from the local blockbuster, and sometimes keeping them if I liked my progress enough. And of course, playing Phantasy Star Zero, Chrono Trigger, and TWEWY. Reminds me if when I was first getting back into pokemon via diamond, and the almost entirely new experiences I'd had after so long away from the franchise and it's games
@@thegringoman3917 no, i tested Guitar Hero: On Tour Decades. I only have proof for that, but I also tested Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock and James Bond: Quantum of Solace for the DS. www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/guitar-hero-on-tour-decades/credits
M&M Racing was a great game! I also have a bunch of memories with PictoChat, Mario Kart, Mario Party, this one airplane fighter game, and tons of other games.
you guys sold the ds lite one on ebay for 160 dollars about a year ago i bought it and sold it for the same price to my friend so he could made homebrew games for the ds :P oh and a friend of his hacked the unit to output video
I have something small to add, back when the DS first came out there was downloadable demos via wifi, you'd do this by going to your local game store like; EB Games or Wal-Mart. what's neat about this, is that every store that did this wifi demo service needed one of these units you showcased here.
YES I waiting for some DS kits! Awesome stuff. My DS Lite got me a bunch of my long time friends lol. Around 1st grade everyone had one and at lunch one day we started talking about Mario & Luigi Bowser’s Inside Story and went into this big competition to see who could beat it first, collect everything, etc. That game and the system will always be super important to me and I still replay it all the time lol
I'm a bit younger so one of my best memories playing DS was playing new super Mario Bros because it was my first game ever and has gotten me into gaming and collecting
Can you upload the software/dump the disc that comes with it? It could be useful for some homwbrew dev's, or there could be some hidden dev stuff that can be found. Maybe some sm64ds beta shots?
You're gonna get this guy into too much trouble. I assure you, there's a more anonymous source out there you can illegally get this software from, if you're really so inclined.
As a dev unit there SHOULD be an option to swap between a dev and retail environment it would be under the console commands; this would allow it to run software as "retail" while limiting the hardware to match the memory and clock speed of the retail units as well. which is something would need to test before pushing the software to the PTD. But what that console command is I dont remember. Never heard anything about a increase in resolution output.
Pokémon VGC Paris used modified version of the display units in 2009 to display the battles on screen. These were accepting commercial carts. Pokémon VGC Lyon likely used these as well, but they put the hardware in a white box that year so I can't say it was 100% the same set up (even if that's very likely).
You really have some of the coolest stuff on RUclips. I can’t believe you’re not way more popular with all the ultra rare Nintendo products you show. Or should I say ultra rare 64!?
Where I worked we only had the capture one, for the screen shots and the rest were normal DS and we only had 12 of the dev cartridges, the rest were things like supercards which were swiftly hidden when the men from Nintendo would visit to check the professionalism of our QA office.
I found this development cartridge in a storage locker and the print is faded but I made out, Mo_h_r 3. Would you guys be interested if I mailed it over?
Timmay2177 oh, you mean E_rt_B_u_d_4? I don’t think they’re interested in that actually. If you do send it make sure to say you’re going to and then bow out due to money issues though
I probably have more memories with the DS than other consoles, the second being the GBA. I remember going on a trip to see some family that lives a couple states away, and in a misunderstanding my younger cousin washed my first DS in the sink when I told her to clean off the screen. Luckily it was still under warranty.
If you get updates on this would love another video on it because the DS is a nostalgia machine for me. Also M64DS was one of my greatest gaming memories not just DS memories
I have a Snake Box (New) Nintendo 3DS Development Kit (which I use since I'm a game developer - so it's not for sale), and you can indeed use modifications to make it play published roms. But the modifications are on the rom file, not the hardware itself.
Awesome video. My favorite DS memory is when I played Nicktoons Battle For Volcano Island. I played that game all the time. Also, Spider-Man 3. I currently play Spider-Man 2 often.
Where do you find this stuff? Just think about it, a lot of the game console development kits that you showcase on your channel are for discontinued hardware (at the time I'm writing this comment.) Generally, what console manufacturers do when a system gets discontinued is that the development kits get thrown away and never to be seen again. I am kinda surprised that you are able to find these wonderful things somehow, especially when resale of them is outlawed and stuff like that.
Resale of them is not outlawed- It's called the First Sale Right- after somethings "first sale" no more restrictions are allowed to be placed on its sale beyond that Usually the "first sale" is factory -> the store ..
HI, yes it does play retail games for GBA and NDS using special software and DLL files which also enables VIdeo Out And correct aspect ratio on your TV display or monitor. Cheers!! 🙂
I loved metal slug 7 when I was a kid, but one day I lost it.... And I now have a ds game cartridge sized hole in my heart that can only be fixed with metal slug 7
Hey Tony, you if you hooked this unit up to your ossc you can check the resolution of the incoming signal. Compare that to the original resolution of the DS and you can figure out if its line 2x 3x etc or just pass through.
I very vaguely rememeber a youtuber getting something like this with a pokemon game to show off the game, they said they had to send it back afterwards. I remember thinking it was so cool and wishing they had showed it off more. Did Nintendo often give/lend out recording devices to influencers?
They still have the big chunky boxes all the way into more modern gaming? That really surprises me, I expected to see this with N64 and such (The dev cart and cables etc, but a DS system I held to higher expectations even for the timeframe it was released in) Today I know that Nintendo is really pushing Unity3D for both indie and official development (if memory serves) - I know the ds original and lite was before that but I still didn't expect very mid-90's feeling clunky boxes for a system that's definitely far post 90's.
There is one of these for a newer model of ds. I think the 3ds near me at a local game store. It just a bit to expensive for me. I think it was around $500
It's all possible so technically all true however the difficulty to achieve some of the things you mentioned is up there. Never owned one myself but I've work on or with two of these.
Mario 64 DS was awesome, but what was bigger for me was finishing Resident Evil for the first time in the form of Deadly Silence when I was a teenager, playing on my fat DS which I still haven't upgraded from. :D I still love the easter egg when you tap Jill's ass or Chris' hair to make them react in their own funny ways. :D
the vid out is just a clone of the screen with upscaling I worked with the light all the time when I worked at ea that’s why when u plug it into the tv it looks soft . Their was one that was red and was for dsi but most of them where rentals and we did not own one
Worked as a level artist on Surf's Up DS on one of these devkits. Meeemoooriiiiiieeeees~~ PSP devkits were way cooler-looking though, like a tiny beige pc tower with a UMD slot and wifi antenna.
When we first got our PSP we didn't actually get any games with it for the first couple of weeks which I found disappointing (It came with a demo umd like the Wii came with a demo). So when I finally got my DS I went ham and asked my parents for 3 games for it which was the best experience ever. I got Mario & Luigi partners in Time, Kirby canvas curse, and Mario Kart DS. Those were the times. When we got our Wii, we kind of made the same mistake of not getting any games for it again, maybe because we thought Wii sports was enough or that Zelda Twlight Princess was out of stock. The newest Nintendo console we have now is a Wii U that we got late a couple years ago but we're just PC gamers now so it's not really used often. We just prefer older consoles for the most part, too.
![Nintendo DS Development Kit from Intelligent Systems! - Overview and Demo [IS-NITRO-EMULATOR]](/img/1.gif)
Oh wow, I used one of these when I worked on DS games at Ubisoft. Ours had the video upgrade but not wireless, and the software was *horrible* to work with. Ours also never had the full OS on it; the tools at the time were a customized version of CodeWarrior, and the debugger pretty much didn't work. We only worked on one game during the launch window, though, and then my studio was reassigned to work on cellphone games.
Oh, and when we started on our game the blue Nitro unit wasn't even available yet - we were doing our test builds on a previous version of the devkit which had only one screen. (It only showed the screen for the primary PPU, which meant that it pretty much showed a 60Hz flicker between the two screens' content because of how their dual-screen stuff worked.)
I really want to work at a place where things like this are used. I also want to keep my current job because the bonuses are insanely great. But I desperately want to work with game developers and absorb their knowledge and skills by helping in any way that I can. But I also want to keep my current bonuses. Ah, dammit, decisions are the worst.
Non-Programmer: WOW These tools look so awesome I feel like a l33t hacker I wonder what they all do I bet I can peek into the history of the games development process.
Programmers: GET THAT FUCKING NIGHTMARE OF AN SDK AWAY FROM ME NOW, HOLLY SHIT HOW DID THEY SCREW UP THE DEBUGGER SO BAD! never AgAIN
Yeah I can imagine with the way the Wii/DS platforms worked it was up to Nintendo to make sure everything was as easy as on other platforms (like how Microsoft makes cross platform development super easy nowadays inside of just visual studio). But if they cant provide all of that then that makes the dev. process tedious as shit. It's like trying to use a closed source API that isnt documented at all, or maybe trying to eat sugar with a fork--it just doesnt work out hardly at all
@@naikrovek its 2019, chances are, youd be lucky enough NOT to use this monstrosity >.>
depending on what platforms you dev. on. Nintendo has always been probs the hardest since you also need them to approve you and send tools and proprietary hardware to your address... now all you have to do is sign up for a developer application on their portal and if they approve you get to download their whole SDK (you have to be at least 18, by the way) and seeing how things have changed over the years, Nintendo development is becoming alot more like standard PC/console from what I can tell. Huge step up from owning basically a bunch of extra bricks lying around that you dont even own.
But if you're in the homebrew community, welcome aboard. Though I'm sure third parties have much better tools for stuff like this ;3
really? can i know your real name?
Code names are often better than the actual product names in my opinion.
Often yes. Although sometimes they help the common consumer make sense of the system. DS vs Nitro, Switch vs Nitro. Then there's examples like the XBox One X, which they might as well have just have called it Scorpio, because what the hell is an XBox One X?
Hard4Games would've been better if they called it the Xbox one plus (+)
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Fun fact: "DS" was originally another codename; the planned name for the system was the "City Boy." The only reason the DS codename became the official name was that it was that popular among the public and press.
codenames are full of 80's testosterone.
My fondest DS memory is buying a copy of Tetris DS from GameStop and it was a fake. Returned it, got a different one and it was also fake. Their third and last copy was legit.
+JCreazy Sounds about right for Gamestop
Reminds me how I bought Metroid Prime Hunters and got a demo cart. I returned it, ordered another one online and got yet another demo cart. I then gave up and got a refund. Hilariously, my GameStop put the demo cart back on the shelf to be sold. smh
Line tripling isn't actually rendering at a higher resolution, it's just drawing the same lines multiple times to fill the screen. Results in big, chunky pixels.
Big Sexy Pixels
So, basically the same as upscaling.
Lamarr Dijey not quite. line multiplication and dot spacing are lossless operations, and can be done in the analog video domain, whereas scaling is done by digitizing the video, applying a scaling algo such as bicubic or nearest neighbor, then either passing on the digital video, or returning it to the analog domain
I like 'em big
I like 'em chunky
Actual trash - I like 'em big, I like 'em plumpy
I was a certified (Still am technically) Nintendo Pre-Certification tester and those unit bring back memories! You wouldnt believe all the little stupid thing that come into Nintendo accepting or not to license a software. It was also used for translation purpose.
In the same building as I was working there was translation done in 15 different language back then and we sometime use those machine to screenshot place where there's text input and transfer those to the traduction department so that they can do their work. We would then back check every screen one by one with a traduction specialist of the current language we were working on. That mean that if they were 200,500,2000 etc. text input, everyone of them was check manually.
For those of you not believing me, just look for Enzyme Testing Labs which is a Company from Quebec that have office all around the world now. If you look my full name up : Marc-Antoine Durand Dallaire you'll easily find proof of my background in the videogame industry. Not everything is on the net but some work and credit are still there ^^
So is the rumor about line doubling true?
@@DJMADD01
I was surprised that even the texts were checked during a LOT check :D and they checked exactly the Savegame savedata layout ;)
I just realized I bought the same DS Lite Unit as seen in this video off of ebay.
And I mean the exact same one, didn't expect that. XD
I can tell, because when I got the unit there was a slight tear above the "d" in "Nintendo on the "Confidential Property of Nintendo" Sticker, which can be seen in this video, pretty cool!
I currently use it to test my Custom Content for Mario Kart DS (Thanks MKDS3), and soon I'll use it to make help me make Homebrew games.
Have you released any DS homebrew yet?
@@nixietubes Seconding this
@@MosiahWhite idk if he has but I know he runs a mario kart modding discord server, I never paid attention to what the server was working on though.
I'm hard for this.
There was a German Gaming TV Channel called GIGA back then and in the DS times they used this box for video output. They were supposedly stupidly expensive back then.
GIGA these days is run by different guys and in fact part of IGN (or was it?) unlike to 2005 when it was still part of NBC Europe.
The moderators that many of the viewers got used to eventually started another gaming show on MTV before these guys fired them out of a sudden and ever since they have their own Internet show called Rocketbeans that's actually available here on RUclips as well as Twitch.
Dun dun duuun~
IGN sold them in 2010. The GIGA of today is nothing but a name.
MTV was just a puppet Viacom is the Corporate Commander.
@@MegaManNeo back in the day the rocketbeans had a show called Game One, now its Game Two.
@@JohnCena-iw2vk I know, I'm a longtime fan of the GIGA\\GAMES crew albeit I barely got to watch GameOne because it had really fucked up air times on MTV's schedule.
Oh man I'd love a Nitro Capture
Same lol
I have that device too, the dslite version, but without video or wifi. The debugging works really well if you make stuff with the official sdk. You can run the software on windows 10 too, but you either have to get the latest signed drivers that come with the software for the is-ctr-debugger (3ds thing), or install the older not correctly signed drivers in unsigned driver mode. You can run retail games, however not directly from a cartridge. You need to use "eNDryptS Advanced.exe" to encrypt a rom dump (nds roms have a little encrypted region which is not encrypted in the dumps you find online). Then you load in the nds with IS-NITRO-DEBUGGER. Put in the cartridge and enable the cart slot (In this order! You may damage the device or the cart if you do it the other way around! You should also turn off the slot again before taking out the cart) so you can use the backup memory and start the game. It should then run just fine. Those devices are not different from a normal ds, other than that some more pins of the system-on-a-chip are used for debugging, that it has 8 MB instead of 4 MB memory and that it contains hardware that emulates a cart (that's also where the name comes from). So it's not possible to view at a higher resolution or something, cause there's simply a chip connected to the lines that go to the display and convert that to a video signal for a tv. It's really interesting that you have a reflashable cartridge by the way. I would really like to have one, but they are barely available and far too expensive too often.
does it output rgb or only composite?
Elrinth From what I read only composite and s-video
Can you run the software in compatibility mode for windows 7?
I worked on one of these at a little indie studio. I loved coding for the ds, it was such a great system.
I spent way too much time playing Pokémon Diamond on DS, hard to believe that was ten years ago now '~'
I have like 300 hours in Pokémon Pearl lmao
Same but pearl and platinum was my shit.
PuffyRainbowCloud I must have more. But o never completed everything in it. I dicked around most of the time and just explored.
Yeah, same. I wasted many hours hatching for shiny Pokémon.
Christmas '07, I got a crimson DS Lite along with New Super Mario Brothers, Mario Kart DS, and Wario Master of Disguise. I played the heck out of those games, and remember messing with modifier codes on the Action Replay DS. Playing Mario Kart DS online was a blast before the wi-fi service shut down. To this day, I still have each of those games, and I use that same, broken DS as an alarm via an R4i 3DS flashcart with the Morning Timer app.
Chops McCartney that's actually really cool
If by "broken" you mean the hinge is damaged you can do a reshell and add new hinge parts. Ifixit should help you but they tend to overstate how complex a thing is
Chops McCartney I still play Mario cart DS sometimes and play local online when possible
It is still possible to play online at mariokart ds, you just have to patch the game before, and use a custom dns to connect to AltWFC servers.. And find someone also connected x)
SUPER cool hardware! Back in 2006 I went absolutely nuts for the Resident Evil 1 port. I played it so much that I could fly through it in just under an hour, and I would frequently wake up early so I could beat it before school. Starting the day off right!
Kaiju Yoshi I used to wake up early to beat it before school too! 😏💦💦
Rene Soto Wow, a masturbation joke, would have never seen that coming :/
Rene Soto HEYOOOO!
Kaiju Yoshi
As I had the DS from probably the age of 11 or less, I had to buy as many games as I could with my pocket money. This meant going into the shop on the market that sold second hand games and using eBay to find something fun to play. The number of fake games I amassed through this through the years was crazy when I look back. At least the fake games continued to work on my DS Lite unlike the fake Gameboy games that seemed so common on eBay where a few years later I'd find myself reflowing the solder on the board around the rom chip to bring them back from the dead.
A couple of years after amassing so many fake carts, I remember taking a trip to London with my dad and browsing a few different tech shops before a fellow noticed the DS I was carrying around with me and asked me how I'd like to leave the shop with around 25 games for £20. At this point I didn't know he'd be loading me up an R4 Cartridge.
I often wonder - did Nintendo profit at all from software sales? Me and all my friends would only buy new games if they were super cheap, else we shopped second hand and gathered fake and dodgy carts.
They don´t, really, but many admit it is allowed if the game is hard to "legally" obtain.
Nice fingernails, Tony.
i'm more concerned with your monster hdmi cable lol
I remember finding my old DS system around the end of last year and it still had a full charge, despite me not using it since around 05 or 06!
I also remember having my ds lite getting run over and it was still seemingly fine! Although a couple years later the whole thing bricked itself somehow.
Of the dev equipment, this is pretty cool. Especially the ones with video output! Would be really fun to have with the ability to play retail games, though!
The card slot is not for reading games at all, it writes data to those flash carts. The games are streamed through the USB connection directly from the debugging software.
Cool find. Reminds me of when I was lucky enough to get a flash cart for mine to play plenty of the homebrew and emulator titles that were available 10 years ago.Mario 64 and Viewtiful Joe were my favorite retail titles on the system and I even had fun with the Sonic Rush titles.
wbowen05
Time Hollow
999
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Pokémon Platinum
Sonic Chronicles Dark Brotherhood 1 & 2 (ps did they ever release #2?)
&
WarioWare
....is the list of my favs, but it had so much variety; I know people who like Nintendogs; Animal Crossing DS; Harvest Moon; and RuneFactory as well (I think those games are all okay, but I know people who love them)
@@niaschim Not only did they never make a sequel to Chronicles, but the first one was left unfinished at release due to Bioware being bought out by EA, and Ken Penders' lawsuits exiled the game from canon
@@kfcnyancat oh
I knew about the lawsuits, also I think I was only asking bc I misremembered a friend of mine claiming to have the sequel.
Later I learned that I was sane in thinking that was insane, cos I asked them about it
When. I was nine, my mum had an operation abroad to get rid of a brain tumor resting on her optic nerve. At seventy five percent blind she is legally blind. Anyway, when my parents got back they gave me a black DS lite and some games (NSMB and Pokémon - I took about an hour of playing Pokemon to notice that I also got a Mario game!). Waiting for the DS and the Pokemon Fire Red Mystery Dungeon game is what kept me sane. To this day, gaming is my refuge in stressful times. Lovely video, and thanks for asking :-)
man that's sad as fuck, is your mom ok? :(
DS was pretty much my goto system back in high school, playing stuff like Super Mario 64 DS, Animal Crossing, Castlevania and Mario Kart, though I ended up playing Contra 4 the most on it. Such a badass entry to the series that truly captured what Contra is all about. Also helped that it celebrated the past games and even had the early ones playable as unlockables.
I LOLed @1:38 Why is there a connector with "Wireless" written next to it xD
Probaly to "fake" the ds that it's getting a wireless signal while you're actually just connecting it to the network via ethernet cable.
Thanks! That sounds like a very probable explanation. Though you have to admit, it's rather strange to see a standard RJ-45 network connector with "wireless" written next to it ;)
I'm pretty sure you could attach an antenna to the silver peg or even the regular internet port. It'd be wild if it was the peg since the word wireless is kinda centered on that
the silver peg is an antenna
I just assumed it would be a way to connect to the internet via ethernet, considering the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection existed.
SM64DS was great, except for the "analog" control. It really needs to be ported to 3DS with support for the circle pad.
+Emtu That would be awesome!
Yea along with widescreen support
What? But you can play it on the 3ds it's backwards compatible with ds games
Apparently, you can connect a development DSi to the IS-NITRO as well. That reveals how video footage was captured to show off applications and DSiWare.
For me, Mario 64 DS because the living myth himself was in the game (aka Luigi)
Barkin B U T W H A T A B O U T W A L I G I
How do you get Luigi? I only ever played as Yoshi or mario
Bran04don13 what have you ever beat the game?
Bran04don13 this is the DS remake not the N64 version
Eddy Studios yea I know I've only played the DS version. I mentioned Yoshi. The 64 version you play as Mario but the DS version you play as Yoshi but I didn't know you csn play as Luigi, and no I haven't completed the game as my younger self was always too scared of the ghosts and water levels lol and pretty much just stuck to that first level as it was too fun. And I did the minigames alot.
Back when the DS was relevant, I used to watch a gaming show on TV that used to own one or two of these devices with the original bulky DS attached to it.
Never saw any dev cartridges on their devices which used to sit in a comfortable position so the camera when captured always showed the capture device.
Therefore these things MUST be capable of playing retail games!
Anything else just makes no sense, if you ask me.
MegaManNeo Those must have been modded
They weren't modded, and there weren't even the same unit, actually.
There are two different units Nitro Emulator, and Nitro Capture.
And no, Nitro Emulator as seen in this video is indeed not capable of playing retail games.
Nitro Capture, however was, which is what you saw in the TV show you're talking about.
Nitro Capture units look the same as Nitro Emulators, aside from the lable on the front being different,
and lacking the debugging features the Nitro Emulator has.
Nitro Capture units were given to reviewers, and TVs shows to capture video from the DS, basically Nintendo's official DS capture card. So yes, other things make perfect sense.
ruclips.net/video/nL9n3Mf7Mok/видео.html
ahh, I recall the days I first got my original blue DS. Playing Digimon Dusk and Megaman ZX Advent on the bus, renting various games(many pokemon) from the local blockbuster, and sometimes keeping them if I liked my progress enough. And of course, playing Phantasy Star Zero, Chrono Trigger, and TWEWY. Reminds me if when I was first getting back into pokemon via diamond, and the almost entirely new experiences I'd had after so long away from the franchise and it's games
When I game tested at Vicarious Visions as a 15 year old I saw a ton of these :)
A 15 year old game tester? That's a thing?
Did you test a Tony hawk game?
@@thegringoman3917 no, i tested Guitar Hero: On Tour Decades. I only have proof for that, but I also tested Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock and James Bond: Quantum of Solace for the DS.
www.mobygames.com/game/nintendo-ds/guitar-hero-on-tour-decades/credits
M&M Racing was a great game! I also have a bunch of memories with PictoChat, Mario Kart, Mario Party, this one airplane fighter game, and tons of other games.
you guys sold the ds lite one on ebay for 160 dollars about a year ago i bought it and sold it for the same price to my friend so he could made homebrew games for the ds :P oh and a friend of his hacked the unit to output video
I have something small to add, back when the DS first came out there was downloadable demos via wifi, you'd do this by going to your local game store like; EB Games or Wal-Mart.
what's neat about this, is that every store that did this wifi demo service needed one of these units you showcased here.
The unit with the original DS was probably created sometime in mid-September 2004, when Nintendo announced their release dates for the retail DS
YES I waiting for some DS kits! Awesome stuff.
My DS Lite got me a bunch of my long time friends lol. Around 1st grade everyone had one and at lunch one day we started talking about Mario & Luigi Bowser’s Inside Story and went into this big competition to see who could beat it first, collect everything, etc. That game and the system will always be super important to me and I still replay it all the time lol
I'm a bit younger so one of my best memories playing DS was playing new super Mario Bros because it was my first game ever and has gotten me into gaming and collecting
Can you upload the software/dump the disc that comes with it? It could be useful for some homwbrew dev's, or there could be some hidden dev stuff that can be found. Maybe some sm64ds beta shots?
You're gonna get this guy into too much trouble. I assure you, there's a more anonymous source out there you can illegally get this software from, if you're really so inclined.
All that software and documentation is actually already available on the net. Dig better :)
Well, if the GBA TV adapter is dumped, I don´t see why this can´t be dumped.
All the SDKs are already on the web, from the DS to the Wii U. Search better :)
Super Mario 64 ds, pokemon soul silver, pokemon black and sonic rush are arguably my favorite games for the console. Man I love the ds.
SM64 DS Remake was the best! I still play it on my new 3ds xl (even better cause you don’t have to use the d pad)
Omg having my DS work on a tv is like a dream come true
Some great games I played on the DS were Professor Layton, Touch Detective, and Hotel Dusk Room 215, oh and Dragon Quest Heroes Rocket Slime
GBAtemp should be worth checking and posting to.
As a dev unit there SHOULD be an option to swap between a dev and retail environment it would be under the console commands; this would allow it to run software as "retail" while limiting the hardware to match the memory and clock speed of the retail units as well. which is something would need to test before pushing the software to the PTD. But what that console command is I dont remember.
Never heard anything about a increase in resolution output.
Pokémon VGC Paris used modified version of the display units in 2009 to display the battles on screen. These were accepting commercial carts. Pokémon VGC Lyon likely used these as well, but they put the hardware in a white box that year so I can't say it was 100% the same set up (even if that's very likely).
You really have some of the coolest stuff on RUclips. I can’t believe you’re not way more popular with all the ultra rare Nintendo products you show. Or should I say ultra rare 64!?
Where I worked we only had the capture one, for the screen shots and the rest were normal DS and we only had 12 of the dev cartridges, the rest were things like supercards which were swiftly hidden when the men from Nintendo would visit to check the professionalism of our QA office.
4:05 On a really old Windows 7 machine😂😂😂
Xbox devkits need windows xp lol
I found this development cartridge in a storage locker and the print is faded but I made out, Mo_h_r 3. Would you guys be interested if I mailed it over?
Timmay2177 oh, you mean E_rt_B_u_d_4? I don’t think they’re interested in that actually. If you do send it make sure to say you’re going to and then bow out due to money issues though
That's cool, I found one that read G_t_A_V but just burned it away cuz of the lulz
I found a development RUclips video labeled Ha__f__Gam_s. Looking to auction it for a starting bid of $180,000. Any takers?
That is a development cartridge of the japan Earthbound
way cool Tony, can't wait to see what you end up learning and doing with this device
2:38 Happy birthday dude!
I probably have more memories with the DS than other consoles, the second being the GBA. I remember going on a trip to see some family that lives a couple states away, and in a misunderstanding my younger cousin washed my first DS in the sink when I told her to clean off the screen. Luckily it was still under warranty.
If you get updates on this would love another video on it because the DS is a nostalgia machine for me. Also M64DS was one of my greatest gaming memories not just DS memories
I have a Snake Box (New) Nintendo 3DS Development Kit (which I use since I'm a game developer - so it's not for sale), and you can indeed use modifications to make it play published roms. But the modifications are on the rom file, not the hardware itself.
I believe at the most it uses line doubling because a PAL signal would be required for line tripling as that would give a height of 576 pixels.
That box would be slick eGPU enclosure
4:22 Looks kinda like an IDE, pretty similar to visual studio tbh,
Awesome video. My favorite DS memory is when I played Nicktoons Battle For Volcano Island. I played that game all the time. Also, Spider-Man 3. I currently play Spider-Man 2 often.
If this ran retail games I would so want one, have the most badass gaming setup
Where do you find this stuff?
Just think about it, a lot of the game console development kits that you showcase on your channel are for discontinued hardware (at the time I'm writing this comment.) Generally, what console manufacturers do when a system gets discontinued is that the development kits get thrown away and never to be seen again. I am kinda surprised that you are able to find these wonderful things somehow, especially when resale of them is outlawed and stuff like that.
Resale of them is not outlawed-
It's called the First Sale Right- after somethings "first sale" no more restrictions are allowed to be placed on its sale beyond that
Usually the "first sale" is factory -> the store ..
Wow, wonder where people manage to get a hold of these.
Poor inventory control at studios often mean that things go "missing"
fluffy I see.
Lost Magic was dope asf, you're a wizard and draw symbols to cast spells
HI, yes it does play retail games for GBA and NDS using special software and DLL files which also enables VIdeo Out And correct aspect ratio on your TV display or monitor.
Cheers!! 🙂
Dev emulation changed a lot, now I can simply emulate an iPhone trough Xcode without physical unit
There's a 3ds version, dan from dan and phill games showed it when he was given a early copy of omega ruby to play on their channel.
Mario 64 DS and Animal Crossing Wild World! Played those a lot growing up
Me and my friend played hours of jump superstar .... that was so much fun. Super smash brothers meets jump magazine. It was so much fun.
I loved metal slug 7 when I was a kid, but one day I lost it.... And I now have a ds game cartridge sized hole in my heart that can only be fixed with metal slug 7
Hey Tony, you if you hooked this unit up to your ossc you can check the resolution of the incoming signal. Compare that to the original resolution of the DS and you can figure out if its line 2x 3x etc or just pass through.
first thing i would try is playing bomberman against the nitro using the wireless.
you cant use the card, but you can still use wireless, right?
I very vaguely rememeber a youtuber getting something like this with a pokemon game to show off the game, they said they had to send it back afterwards. I remember thinking it was so cool and wishing they had showed it off more.
Did Nintendo often give/lend out recording devices to influencers?
For some reason my brain is saying it was stampy or dan and phil but current me is going wtf does that even make sense
2:39 HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
No tear down? Why are they so massive? What's inside?
"What is that?"
IS Nitro Emulator
2:38 happy birthday
They still have the big chunky boxes all the way into more modern gaming? That really surprises me, I expected to see this with N64 and such (The dev cart and cables etc, but a DS system I held to higher expectations even for the timeframe it was released in) Today I know that Nintendo is really pushing Unity3D for both indie and official development (if memory serves) - I know the ds original and lite was before that but I still didn't expect very mid-90's feeling clunky boxes for a system that's definitely far post 90's.
The IS-NITRO-EMULATOR's video out is blocked by a software wall, and it's possible to enable the video out using a program on your computer.
I love that these are just bricks. Unsexy, rack-server like bricks. They have a job to do and they do it, and don't care how they look while doing it.
There is one of these for a newer model of ds. I think the 3ds near me at a local game store. It just a bit to expensive for me. I think it was around $500
It's all possible so technically all true however the difficulty to achieve some of the things you mentioned is up there. Never owned one myself but I've work on or with two of these.
I purchased a Wii devkit from southtownarcade on ebay. Pretty chill dude!
how does it work for playing GameBoy Advance games on a big screen?
Happy Birthday!
Mario 64 DS was awesome, but what was bigger for me was finishing Resident Evil for the first time in the form of Deadly Silence when I was a teenager, playing on my fat DS which I still haven't upgraded from. :D I still love the easter egg when you tap Jill's ass or Chris' hair to make them react in their own funny ways. :D
It has an AV output per screen, that would be expensive to use.(you would need 2 TVs)
Dude I love 64DS, I had a friend who would always tell me I'm wrong for liking the DS version (I'm not friends with him anymore)
the vid out is just a clone of the screen with upscaling I worked with the light all the time when I worked at ea that’s why when u plug it into the tv it looks soft . Their was one that was red and was for dsi but most of them where rentals and we did not own one
Neat! The games I still play are the castlevania games on my DS. I also use a gameboy emulator to play Zelda Link's Awakening.
I like your black nail polish, Tony. Looks really good. ;)
Yaaayyy the song is back !
Worked as a level artist on Surf's Up DS on one of these devkits. Meeemoooriiiiiieeeees~~
PSP devkits were way cooler-looking though, like a tiny beige pc tower with a UMD slot and wifi antenna.
The DS and Wii should’ve been marketed as Nitro and Revolution imo
When we first got our PSP we didn't actually get any games with it for the first couple of weeks which I found disappointing (It came with a demo umd like the Wii came with a demo). So when I finally got my DS I went ham and asked my parents for 3 games for it which was the best experience ever. I got Mario & Luigi partners in Time, Kirby canvas curse, and Mario Kart DS. Those were the times. When we got our Wii, we kind of made the same mistake of not getting any games for it again, maybe because we thought Wii sports was enough or that Zelda Twlight Princess was out of stock. The newest Nintendo console we have now is a Wii U that we got late a couple years ago but we're just PC gamers now so it's not really used often. We just prefer older consoles for the most part, too.
yo this gameplay of Need for speed: Nitro is dope af!
Can I have the software? I didn't get any with my box.
Great find!
Rhythm Heaven was one of my favorite games..
No, I'm not the Andrew mentioned.. I'm not that lucky.. lol
3:09 he sure has some pretty hands
Lol
Intelligent Systems Co. Ltd., the developers of _Paper Mario_ and some other games.
I hope someone Finds an official 3DS capture system like this, maybe that doesn't exist though
Anyone else note that the LAN I/O is marked wireless?
Worked with one with this, nice hardware
I want something like that, to play DS-games on the TV... We should've gotten a 3/DS Player for the Wii U from Nintendo... :(