Calls for change after Auckland construction site’s block walls collapse
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Scaffolding and up to eight block walls, each around 3m high toppled over like dominoes on a site in Auckland’s Glen Innes on May 16.
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Cutting costs, cheap disposable labor, and NEVER any comeback on developers for shoddy work or remediation work once the home owner has purchased. Good old NZ.
It's all about bigger and bigger profits for a chosen niche. Nothing else matters !..
Chinese imigrants
bollocks . nz has very good safety standards around construction.
@@glennarmstrong2485 When they're adhered too.
@@raihamarsden08 exactly
Makes me wonder how many completed block walls don't have correct amount of concrete in them
Or, *any* concrete.
This what you get when bean counters hold the purse and any immigrant will work for little pay and the employer doesn't give a damn for their safety or our laws! Neither does the government give a damn about our laws and rights! Good is bad, bad is good - up is down and down is up!
🤔 Why would the useless government politicians living in their gated communities with security paid for by you know who care !....
It seems like Worksafe is just as incompetent as those builders. We used to have them come through work and identify nothing even when their was obvious violations.
Yip, as long as your pronouns are in order you're good to go mate.
Apparently in some cases I believe they were NOT employing qualified tradespeople to enforce the laws in there respective field as it was feared they might hold prejudice against people working slightly differently to how they may have done the job.
And you’re telling me that New Zealand is not a third World country
Hyperbole or not too smart?
Ridiculous fuel prices, Outrageous food prices with no competition, constant internet outages from Maybe 3 players, overpriced flights, bad infrastructure in general, terrible overpriced health care, rubbish crusine, high cost of living in mediocre housing. Anyone who has ever lived abroad knows Nz is 2nd world at best.
@@michaelferguson651 Sure, I can't argue that you have good points, it frustrates me also. People are struggling, but if you've seen the news in Aus lately, they're having the same issues. So is the US for that matter. Covid screwed everyone, as did the cyclones. The fact we're at the bottom of the planet means we're always going to pay a premium for imports and until we start drilling for and refining our own oil, we're going to pay more for fuel. Anyway, I hope things get better. Have a good one.
Construction industry is a house of cards...no wonder they keep folding up... I remember working on a site of townhouses.... OSH turns up... bans all the immigrant workers from using their dodgy power leads and switchboxes with no RCD's or any form of protection... all the gear was put away, and as soon as the inspectors were gone, all the stuff came out again and straight back to work... the law means nothing, so why even bother trying to "enforce" it?
They also are known to remove housing components, like wall insulation & concrete slab reinforcing, post inspections.
Chinese building practices in New Zealand... not great is it?
Trump: "CHINA"
Tofu dregg construction
It keeps getting removed To-fu dre-g construction
Council inspectors ARE in the palms of developers. Companies ARE submitting photos, usually from different sites, instead of inspectors actually doing their jobs and visually siting plans, and understanding ALL codes whilst performing their duties. This is not all developers or all inspectors, BUT there's definitely some
Chinese developer - what a surprise!
Love how they are holding up the random Neighbour talking about construction site safety as some sort of knowledgeable party rather than just being some random bystander.
Says a random commentor who doesn't know anything about construction. She's bang on. I'm 35 years in construction.
That's what happens when you hire people from another country they don't know the policy
So we use our own people to build rail link, and they not just know the policy, they also understand it deeply to blow the budget few times, and delay the project for many years. and that's from our pocket, tax.
I agree with you, overseas worker build a house in simple n cheap materials. They don't understand the policies n NZ environment.
The lack of competent people in the NZ construction trade has been known for a very long time , yet nothing has been done about it
LBP Building regulations have simply caused builders higher costs, criminalised the good ones and been just a bum covering lame blame shifting platform for councils
Tofu dreg construction has officially arrived in NZ
Had to google the term, kinda scared for new developments especially with chinese led development companies like the one in this video.
Good Kiwi tradition, 'she'll be right'. No. 8 wire. Nothing to change here.
not that many kiwis workers on site
this is not the kiwi way. imports are wrecking this country. tofo work is what i see and we all knoiw where that comes from. council needs to step up
Obviously not enough diversity hires.
@@scankhunt4206 The Kiwi way is building leaky homes.... oh wait....
a lot of these workers are overstayers,and the immigration department , doesn't care .
the company is not and they are responsible
I don't think workers are thrilled to work in an unsafe workplace. It's the responsibility of the company. Don't shit on hardworking migrants.
Chinese workers
Thats what you get with import workers/ bosses not use to NZ conditions
I'm pretty sure there is wind outside of NZ.
When you have heard stories of things like correct required quantities of metal rebar being tampered with, to have some of it quietly removed from foundational construction by certain building gangs AFTER it has been sighted and signed off by New Zealand Building Inspectors, this outcome seems not at all surprising. Following the money, as well as carefully documenting the results onsite and comparing that to what Council records allegedly showed should have been done, will not only prove who is responsible but also why this occurred. Be very, very careful who you contract to literally build for you, New Zealand.
Chinese builders again
No experience n no licenses with construction. They used cheap materials. Follow the rules n policies. The council must check their work.
You're assuming council building inspectors are competent to check the work. One has serious doubts
As usual. When it counts, you can drive a truck through our codes. No use pointing our finger at a crafty construction company, which is meeting the law.
The most important question is, were they done according to the building code? If so, then it's the building code problem, like leaky houses done in the 90s, don't blame the builders, blame the people who wrote the building code.
They both useless. They used cheap materials no experience for construction. Cheap Labour.
And, the brand manufacturers, who have the power of lobbying to get their Regulatory demands, on threat of reprisal, if they aren't met.
Like a certain Australian company who expected a 4.5mm fibre-cement exterior wall panelling system, which had a piece of foil tape, covering the panel sheet joins. then, sprayed with 2mm of paint; which was supposed to last 25 years! 🤣🤣🤣😠🤬
Our government is all about savi g money. Our government know everything lol
That would be a welcome change.
Surprised you dont have comments blocked
Right? I almost have respect for them, well actually still quite far off tbh lol
It's almost like we have Media again, rather than the usual silencing of the public
They pulled the neighbours house down and dug 3M down so my dads driveway collapsed no retaining wall nothing
This is why I left the building 👷♀️ industry after 35 years 😮 how can you compete with cheap Chinese labor 😒 well you can't ! Cheapest quote not always the best out come.
Block walls have been blown over for years, usually prior to fill.....and now they are going to do something...😀
How many workers have been killed?
Walls looked like they where partially filled which is why only the top sections collapsed...!? An to all the Willis's in the comments, they where going to be filled they just hadn't been done yet...
Crazy thing is they weren't breaking any real major regulations. This may be the start of some much needed changes though. Just incredibly mind-blowing lucky that no one got squashed here any other day would of multiple fatalities
Funny.. people moan about the cost of housing.. then moan when contractors are doing their best to keep costs down..!???
Migrants?
imagine that lady being your neighbour. good god.
No thanks
Cant see any concrete in the blocks
Because..... it...... wasn't........ filled....... yet, as stated....duh. It actually looks like it was partially filled which is why only the top section collapsed.
Nothing new here, most blocklayers brace their walls up if there’s any wind forecast, I’ve seen wayyyy bigger collapses than that
How many deaths?
Quite often, they are quite a lot like crisp bread if they are not filled with concrete. Bricklayers get paid by the hundred bricks laid normally which is not about whether or not bessa blocks are filled with concrete. Unless a bessa block wall has a steel reinforced concrete beam running sideways through it(which never happens) or a steel reinforced concrete beam over the top of it - it will be happy to try to come apart if the ground shifts, subsides or moves in any way. The most solid way to build them is never done. Which would be to put steel reinforced concrete columns into the ground tied into steel reinforced concrete footings using similar steel reinforcing to the columns , steel reinforced building concrete slab ,then a few feet up to have a beam running sideways that uses steel reinforcing to tie it into the steel reinforcing of the columns, then to have steel reinforced concrete beams running along the top of all the bessa block walls tied into the steel work of columns and beam on top of the wall. Would never happen as it would take too long and be too expensive to build. Ideally bessa block walls are laid on a foundation of trench with steel reinforcing with a concrete, and a steel reinforced concrete slab on to of that before the bessa block walls are built. Another thing that should probably happen that does not, would be to put 10 millimetre thick steel reinforcing into all concrete house slabs and to put any leftover reinforcing mesh in as well. I have 2 foot laps on steel reinforcing mesh in my house slab , twice the recommendation at the time and still got minor cracks in the slab. Put in a reasonable piece of 10mm reinforcing and the barely visible cracks in the slab stop and bend around it because the weight of the concrete was not strong enough to bend the mesh there at all. Unless you build it yourself you get whatever you get and if it falls apart then thats how it goes. Try doing what i mentioned and your house will likely not get finished because it would take too much time to build.
NZ buildings should be able to handle 150 km per hr winds...which would be about top-of-the-range climatic test?
...and add heavy rain and ground water toi soften the land..
Blockheads,
The Concrete Block Walls that blew down, weren't necessarily built by Migrant workers or Chinese.
The walls were at a vulnerable height, not filled with Concrete Blockfill nor were they Braced. A recipe for failure against strong winds.
Blocklayers in general, will push the limits, pre pour as its more cost effective to do so!!! But not in this case!!
The only good thing about this failure, is that noone was injured or kiĺled.
The construction industry has become a race to the bottom. Where are the prosecutions & fines?
this what happens when you chose qualifications over experience. the best builders are old guys with no qualifications, the worst are people with 1 year of experience chosen over someone with 20 years' experience. also cutting corners, leave building to the experts not government rushing and cutting corners.
Totally agree with you
Their mortar must have been very weak as it has come away cleanly from all the blocks shown. Standard practice all my yrs of experience we filled it or backed at no more than 2m. It is typical of tofu construction to ignore safety and quality as far as possible to maximise profits. Still to this day every man is his own safety officer. If your not taught the correct way you wont act the correct way,. Thank god the concrete is mixed offsite and professionally batch mixed, otherwise these building might blow over anyway.
Don't trust any worker from overseas. All they need just money not worry about safe n health of the community. The government must check their licenses construction.
Bloody immigrant, it’s health and safety, you drongo 😂
Been saying this for years they don't care about us or this country they want money and to take as much as they can that's it
What would happen to these buildings in an earthquake?
High lift grouting can go up more than 3m.
This is y we hav a housing crisis sort it out guys
So much for homes needing to meet the code for earthquakes. The costs of bureaucracy is crazy.
Shit happened... It will always be this way in this industry. To little to late
Complete waste of time and resources.
Rnz media look into tofu dreg construction in china then come back and then we can talk about chinese building firms being bad
Council project?
Crazy.
Tofu dragged coming to a town near your kiwi.
Competent Builders Check the weather, for the day, then, the week.. even Further, helps you plan ahead.
If sudden weather change strong winds are forecast, youll only continue to whats safe, an double back immediately an get crete in those blocks urgently, an youll still need to brace..
In strong winds, those Empty Blocks, would need major, serious Bracing, carried out by experienced, qualified ppl.
Brigades of yellow cowboys.
Carboard house 1.1 million i know what I've got
Hahahah cowboys for life!!!
Lip off
Good things done by overseas immigrant builders
her name shoulda been karen
Imagine her Googling the contact number for Worksafe so she can be the first to nark.
For first checking that nobody was hurt?
Or being responsible?
Why?
lol yes. And they hold her up and interview her like she knows what shes talking about and not just some random Neighbour
And if a worker got squashed what would their name be? Slim?
not enough mihi to stop the big bad wolf blowing over the straw houses.....I'll huff and I'll puff and i won't go away....
overspending will take us to the wall