@@pearlmoth wait really? Oh really! Just checked the official site and that’s true, my bad! I really just assumed because of the 1st person pronoun and the fact so many charas use the -kun ending for them, but it does seem like at the end of the day it’s left unclear on purpose. Thanks for clearing it up for me, I wasn’t aware of this ‘:)
@@mikukikimasu I think you can view Es as any gender and use any pronouns you want since his gender is unknown, I don't know much though. I just saw it in the wiki
LMAO the ppl on TikTok being like “she wouldn’t hurt a kid that’s why she didn’t hurt amane you’re all disgusting” can’t wait till they’re watching this
As someone who initially thought she might not attack a child , the reveal that she would have went after Amane if she wasn’t stopped by Kazui and John actively fighting back/protecting someone else. It makes it even more interesting and frightening in regards to what would’ve happened in trial 1 if one of the people voted guilty were voted innocent instead and gave her time to go after Amane . Considering Amane IS a child and how an adult like Mahiru would’ve died if it weren’t for Shidou, Kotoko could have killed Amane if it weren’t for others buying time via fighting back and the amount of guilty people there were .
I’ll be honest… I might be stupid because I was sure of that too. In her first voice drama she said something along the lines of “your job as a warden isn’t just to make guilty people pay, but to protect the innocent” and I was SURE it meant that she didn’t agree with Amane being guilty or that she was unsure whether to go through with her plan or not… but nope, I guess she was talking about herself? It seems like she hates everyone, even the innocent prisoners. She really played me huh :|
@@analyticaltomato tbh I don't think she was lying. I mean she also gives doubts towards finding Mikoto guilty. It's almost like she finds it her purpose to attack those found guilty because well "Es said those are the evils". I think if she legitimately did know all the details and was acting on her own instead of trying to act under Milgram... well she probably would have went for Amane's mother herself. We can blame Kotoko for choosing violence... but the ones that picked the unforgive option was us She comes across more like someone acting on behalf of someone w/o actually understanding their wishes. She's almost like a soldier, going after those voted guilty IN THE ORDER of how guilty they were found. I mean she APOLOGIZES for failing her perceived mission Though side note looking at the other T2 voice dramas, between Kotoko's physical violence and the mental scarring just being voted guilty did... the latter is actually the one they were hurt by the most so in a way she does have a point that Milgram's methods might not be as humane compared to hers as we like to pretend
Kotoko feels like the "Final Boss" of Milgram, she rapresents the "easy way out" that we can and always feel tempted to take. "They're all killers that don't deserve a second chance. So just kill them." It's that easy, all problems are solved, Milgram is over. She's literally gently tempting us in this very voice drama, and she's so sweet in doing so. We don't have to think any more of this, let's just leave it to her, everything will be over by doing so. She's a Final Boss because in order to "save her" we must prove to her that there is a different way of doing things that actually work. If we are not able to Reform the other prisoners and we simply offer Empty Forgiveness and they'll go back to doing crimes/killing people/being self-destructive people, then she would have been right, we were ineffective. But if we are able to give those people a way out, give them hope that they can truly be forgiven if they are ready to accept it, then maybe Kotoko will also see the error of her ways and come to see hope in people again. She doesn't trust people to change, they're just killers and that's all they will ever be, and that's the mindset we have to change. And it's not something we will be able to do with words alone.
She is very much if we took older sibling an parental figures an made them stress over the whole world themselves she is trying to ease Es of the weight but will crush herself to suffering in the same way
no no no no she is nothing close to him she has actual struggles with her own feelings about herself an such while Light just becomes a Death God himself doing it for lols by the end
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 !!! i agree that kotoko has very different struggles than light but he's definitely not just doing it for lols !!! i am no light yagami defender but he's got some weird mental health issues going on which is what sparked the whole kira thing to begin with. it started out as an accident (he didn't actually think the death note was real and had a mental breakdown in the manga as soon as he realized he'd killed people, which we don't see as visibly in the anime but its still mentioned) which eventually spiraled out of control because he couldn't stand the thought of being Wrong because his Perfect Angel Boy persona was being threatened by his actions so he just kinda. doubled down so as not to be condemned by his own insecurity. he knows he's a monster but refuses to admit it to himself because of his narcissism. this is also why he kills anyone who condemns his actions as Kira because he can't stand the thought of being seen as In The Wrong by Anyone not even himself. obviously doesn't excuse being a mass murderer but it's certainly not for No Reason he just has a god complex after being told he was more special & intelligent than his peers his whole life and his thin illusion of self-importance is shattered the moment he ((accidentally)) gets blood on his hands. his dad's a cop so his sense of justice is probably messed up in part due to his upbringing also. i think kotoko is similar in that her ideals about the world are flawed at their core and at first she just wants to do good which eventually spirals out of her control & she can't stop herself leading to the development of some crazy complexes regarding her self-worth. they both want to do good for society originally/on the surface but are corrupted by egotism/insecurity. i have so many notes app essays written about this topic lmfao anyways i love them both as characters they are so so silly :3
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 I’m not as descriptive as the first person that replied to you but I definitely agree. Light was killing off criminals who were imprisoned for crimes they actually committed. Meanwhile Kotoko hurt those around her who were apparently voted guilty, some of them weren’t even guilty in a sense. For example, I really don’t think Mahiru deserved what Kotoko did to her. Since Mahiru didn’t outright murder someone with her own hands. Her bf only decided to kill himself after realizing how toxic the relationship was. But it was sort of toxic in both ways, so in turn, it harmed Mahiru’s mental health as well. While Light kills criminals, Kotoko HURT “guilty” people.
I’m interested why Es’s headache acted up when Kotoko said they were imperfect. Normally that happens when they start realizing they’re basically a hivemind, so it seems significant that even the thought of being imperfect is enough to trigger those thoughts now.
I once a long time ago spoke about the idea that some prisoners are supposed to mimic Es traumas it seems that Es has a big messy family an knowing books with children in large families stuff Middle Child Syndrome can make people like Es this theory stimulates my brain
По-моему это логично. Если сказать человеку, что он несовершенен, то первое о чём он подумает "Что именно во мне несовершенно?". А чтобы ответить на этот вопрос, нужно сначала понять, что ты из себя представляешь. Эс слышит обвинение в несовершенстве -- Эс пытается найти ошибку, что привести контраргумент -- Эс анализирует свои действия -- Эс случайно касается мыслей о своей истинной сущности -- срабатывает блокировка -- Эсу становится плохо. Всё просто. Если бы Котоко сказала "Твои действия несовершенны", то он бы задал себе вопрос "Что я сделал не так?" и далее вопрос "А что я вообще сделал?" Но она сказала "ТЫ несовершенен", что привело его к вопросу "Что СО МНОЙ не так?" и, как следствие, к вопросу "Кто я?"
Codependent Relationships Obscene Disillusionment Flames of Justice Shaky Authority Nuanced Theft Unstoppable Passion Unwilling Deception Brash Faith Self-Preservation Straightforward Judgment Every prisoner represents an ideal, or fundamental aspect, of MILGRAM...
a visual I made in my head that shows off its clear goal in the project is Es chained to his chair while each prisoner interacts with them an Jackalope shows up with a collar of prisoners ID Cards to give to Es like a crown of thorns
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 Harukas killing out of envy was strictly linked to his unhealthy relationship with his mother, which caused him several emotional damage and has lead him to codependency with everyone that shows interest or affection towards him. All of this is connected one way or another
Doesn’t Kotoko’s morality seem really shallow? Even though she strives to protect ‘weaklings,’ her cold view on Amane and calling Haruka a parasite in DeepCover suggests she only wants to protect people that are perfect victims. If they have a mental illness or anything that might make it possibly harder to feel sympathy for them, she just sees them as bad as the criminals she goes against. She likes to see morality as ‘black and white,’ and for that reason I don’t think she cares about the people she ‘protects’ at all. Doesn’t it seem like she’s only doing this to feel better about herself? Also, im gonna be real, I don’t know how Kotoko hasn’t gotten caught by the police yet (unless she bribed them? we see her bribe someone for information in Harrow so we know she isn’t better than that). She sees shoplifters worthy of the same ‘punishment’ as murderers based on the text in Harrow, and considering Fuuta’s injuries, don’t you think it’s likely she’s permanently disabled other people she attacked in her pursuit of ‘justice’?
it has been said before that there seems to be a lot of projecting outwards an cutting inwards alone with her she keeps wanting to have victims latch on to her to a extent but everyone an herself make her react with Ridiculous much like when your confused as a kid you default to this is stupid
Goodness gracious 5:43 - 8:02 ...that split second shift between her demeaning and mocking Es by saying they are useless on their own to holding them and telling them that they can help each other if they work "together" and that they are so kind. She graduated top of her class at the school of manipulation with a major in utilization of the insecurities of a child. She's just using Es to enact her own ideals about humanity and what it means to be "perfect" and the meaning of justice but we've already seen what her fangs can do...
Shes actual filth to me after watching thus, holy shit. From favorite to "I actually hate you" in the matter of seconds She sounds so evil. She sounds like a groomer...i hate that sickly sweet tone shift. Actually revolting
I think Kotoko wanted someone like her as a kid, due to abuse she recieved during that time. Its unforunate that she didn’t take into account just how much our abusers affect us. Just how much they influence us into mirroring and reflecting their own horrendous selves.
her MV was her being freaked at the child that could do nothing but just look up at her an with that reaction with the lyrics of the song she is really not sure of herself but hates to acknowledge it @@kagomagica
Imo kotoko is genuinely scary like she acruallt scares me, all/most of the other prisoners show a lot of emotions in their vd but the way kotoko Just sounds so calm makes me err
my heart is ACHING for Es. I have no idea why I’m so attached to them, but just imagine you being Es. No memories, head hurts every time you try to remember something, 10 murderers that you need to talk to every. Single. Day, getting gaslighted on a daily basis, people trying to attack you, etc… I just feel like giving them a big hug. Though it certainly doesn’t justify their actions, it surely does makes sense, a lot. The amount of mental breakdowns Es has gotten (and why is it always almost linked to their identity?) and the instant coping mechanism of being apathetic, it’s quite sad. In the end, their only a teenager without any memories. Be honest, you’ll probably do something similar in their position wont you? Also, by the way, I think the “something hitting the ground” at like 8:27 was probably es hitting themself? Idk, it’s just a possibility.
в русской версии он стукнул себя по виску, чтобы придти в себя. Возможно что и упал, но наши переводчики расценили это именно как "вправление себе мозгов".
Very hypocritical too of her imo, she attacked those who abused children but once a child in that situation fights back or snaps suddenly they are guilty?
I thought that she didn’t attack Amane since she was a kid BUT NOW THIS CHANGES MY WHOLE PERSPECTIVE ON HER So the means that if she’s innocent and she’s able to harm the guilty prisoners next trial, that means that Haruka and Muu are not gonna have a good time..
@@StephungusIn the birthday timeline, she agreed with Haruka to not do anything to him or interfere as Haruka plans to take his own life since Muu was voted guilty . I don’t know if Muu’s safe though, Haruka’s reasoning to Kotoko was “to protect” from what I can remember so while there is a VERY SLIM chance Muu might not be in danger due to this being because Haruka’s plan is literally dedicated to Muu, this IS Kotoko we’re talking about.. and it’s a lot more likely that Muu’s in danger. Thankfully since we still have Kazui with no restrictions, and a lot of people seem to be leaning towards voting Kotoko guilty meaning she gets some restrictions, there’s some hope that things will be a bit better? But it’s really hard to say
don't act like Es is any less hypocritical at times too these two people are cut from the same cloth an both fear many things about others an themselves but they fear stopping even more @@user-mo8li
based on the audio drama and the lyrics for the song, im still gonna vote her guilty. but i can totally get where kotoko is coming from and i realized that she's basically the very thing im afraid of becoming. she's someone who "wants to help", but her desire to help others is being twisted by her own strength. she knows she's stronger than the others, so she's using that as an excuse to carry out her own justice while under the delusion that she's "helping" them when really she's not. she probably doesn't fully understand it herself, she probably genuinely thinks she's helping, but she's not. she's frustrated with Es for not taking action. hence, she acts without their permission to punish the guilty. she thinks it's helping, but it's not--that's HER idea of justice, and not Es's. Es didn't want the prisoners to get punished for their actions, because Es got attached to the prisoners. They're human like everyone else--weak, imperfect. Kotoko is "more perfect" than Es in every way in terms of being a warden... but this is not Kotoko's prison, this is Es's prison. Es is in charge and she failed to remember this. I'll vote her guilty because I think even though she has good intentions, she is absolutely not doing it in the right way. If we vote her guilty now and she comes to her senses in Trial 3 as a result, I'll vote her innocent then. But for now, she needs to remember that we're the ones in charge. EDIT: On the other hand, I think Es could also learn a bit from Kotoko, and I think they have in this audio drama. They're imperfect, and they recognize that now. But they're accepting that, and hopefully that'll allow them to improve and get stronger too.
a lot of people in this program are looking for themselves an being more whole by some definition an having Es react this way adds to that, they search for it alone an got burned an before someone was there to help them process it they ended up here @@candescence
@rofrago I don't really think that's the case, there's definitely a part of her that sees things that way but if you look at her first voice drama & Mikoto's first voice drama as well as some other stuff (like translations of the text in the video) I think she does care how Milgram judges but still doesn't agree w/ how soft Es is. Also think it was actually the victim's father that threatened the kid to withdraw her testimony so that Kotoko's justified defense plea would fail w/o anyone to witness she was protecting anyone
I think she's scarred of being betrayed the most. Finding out she trusted someone evil is her damage. But at the same time, she hates working alone. I think she grew attached to Milgram because it took away her access to reading the news.
Thanks for making this video! I see a lot of people calling Kotoko manipulative, but I think she truly believes in what she said. That's why at the end she got mad at Es for not attempting to gain power by themself. My main problem with her is that she attacked "guilty" people without knowing anything about what had happened, but the premise that the people she attacked were guilty was never questioned, sadly. Normally I instinctively root against the mayority in Milgram, but I think the guilty veredict is deserved. She is too excited to attack even the "innocent" prisoners. I doubt the veredict is going to change her for better, though.
I have said this a lot but she really is looking at children an feeling you an I are useless it hurts its confusing its stupid an MV 2 she to a point feels that she is also ridiculous but can't stop if she or Es stopped fully it would hurt horribly an to her some exploitation to make things easier is something worth trying reminds me of an anime that ends with a lie to a child about there dead parents just to avoid seeing them depressed which is cruel but understandable
What I hate about Kotoko's mentality is how people are either bad or good and if they are decided bad their lifes have no value. It is completly against the idea of moral grayness and redemption. I don't think that her nearly killing people is only bad because I like the characters. I think no one should decide if someone has the right to live or not specially if it ignores the circustances and motives their actions.
Exactly, and because of this I’m pretty sure that if she got encouraged any more, got an innocent vote again, I don’t think she would only be going after the freshly-guilty voted prisoners. They’d likely get the most severe punishments, but since she doesn’t really believe in people changing she most definitely would have a “once guilty always guilty” mindset and would not hold back any punches for those who already have a guilty result on their record
I really can see how someone can get into that state an have a ways to claw out of it considering how many people IRL feel uncomfortable an scared of saying out loud stuff like white people are not this, this nation is not this and these people are not this because when you admit those worlds an it backfires it feel horrible when your alone @@mikukikimasu
Reminds me of Kira,it started as killing the killers then the people doing smaller and smaller crimes till it extended to the enforcers of law against him and even his own family @@mikukikimasu
dear god kotoko whispering into es's ear like that genuinely creeped me out any thought i had towards voting kotoko innocent is just straight out the window now
The thing about Kotoko is that she's just as if not more bloodthirsty than the rest of the group, she attacks "guilty" people thinking itll give her a moral high ground whilst forgetting that murder is murder. Milgram prisoners are ALL killers and weather we forgive them depends entirely on their behavior 🤷🏽♀️
well the obvious answer at the end of the day is to not forgive the actions of any of them but forgive the person an ease there hearts so they can do good for people an in turn feel better themselves many people where in the Nazi party but after the war found somewhere to repent to themselves an others an have peace
4:59 - 5:26 Probably the most profound moment of this trial for me. At first I was happy for Kotoko being put in her place, only to gasp at immediately realizing that Es proved Kotoko’s point that Es also uses violence when people don’t act the way they want. And her point at 10:23 - 11:00 was also proven, in that for a brief moment I was happy to see her hurt.
yup the words I said way back in first trial an the second MV added too is the idea Es is a stand in for what she saw in children an herself when she was younger a case of am not fully working for others am working for what I print myself on too an seeing them struggle pisses me off something like that many people hate seeing something redo there bad history
There are so many instances where Kotoko and es break the fourth wall. in 11:04 Es says " *We're* weak" "That's how *we* are". I wonder why they referred to themselves as multiple people. in 11:45 Kotoko says "The world will just rot no matter how *many of you* there are" Again referring to es as multiple people. in 12:09, Es says, "You may *embody one of the Milgram ideals* for sure". Again, with the fourth wall breaking, but es is realizing Kotoko symbolizes one of the Milgram ideals.
i personally viewed the plural pronouns in this instance as Es acknowledging Kotoko calling them a weakling, thus speaking as a group; speaking as a representative of “weaklings”, and Kotoko with her speech abt said “weaklings”. but that’s just me ¯\(ツ)/¯
its both Es speak for people in general an that doubles as us since where basically those intrusive thoughts we all have which makes people weak @@keikochii
Reminder that this is a 3 trial system for a *reason*. If it's "Kotoko has the right morals" then this should be one time judge. So we need to reject the idea of her "executing justice" on the guilty prisoners rn. i would vote her innocent in trial 3, but right now she needs to be humbled.
I'm just gonna use the trial system to "punish" her for attacking the others but also to stop her from attacking haruka and muu. Afterall, Kazui can't save both of them, there's the issue with innocent Amane, as well as Haruka trying to kill himself.
@@enamiamappi Finally someone seems to remember about Haruka's threat. I really wish that maybe Shidou can do something about it or that the restraining stops him .
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 yeah tbh i feel like everyone is overthinking mikotos case. Like, his MV is so fucking blunt that he had nothing to do with the murder, and that oretoko was the one doing all the killing in part 2. And he was just scared. And everyone in milgram is just soo used to theories that they overthink mikoto's case. But we've wlready done that before. We tend to overthink too much on sht we shouldnt even overthink about because the answer is right infront of our faces.For instance, Mahiru. Mahiru's case was simple, she was inlove. Thats all the song talked abt, she didnt explain what the murder was, because there WAS no murder, and she didnt kill. The boyfriend killed himself, hence,not her fault. But because the fanbase overthinks too much, they thought she was some psychopathic yandere and decided to vote her guilty, and now look at what happened. I get that all theories of mikotp makes sense, but also dont forget that, "what if we were all overthinking this from the start? And that the plot was just as easy as it already shows on the screen?"
actually fuck kotoko like imo we didn't ask for prisoners to get beaten up if we see them guilty and it's not just prisoners, i absolutely despise her thinking. we can vote on whatever we want as a basis and ktk beating prisoners up puts me REALLY off. idk how to express everything into words
I'm so fond of Kotoko... she's a horrible person who's obsessed with punitive justice to the exclusion of doing anything reparative for victims, but I love her twisted idealism and how /principled/ she is even if her principles are just terrible. Obviously she's awful and manipulative here and just trying to get endorsement for further violence, but man some of the shit she says is just right. Es's arbitrary/emotionally motivated uses of physical abuse as punishment aren't better than her (consistent and even) use of physical violence to punish misbehavior. It's not right that isolation, imprisonment, and psychological abuse are somehow "humane" or moral compared to physical violence even if physical violence isn't itself good either. And there is /such/ a strong vein of catharsis seeking in terms of "punishing" or "correcting" prisoners in MILGRAM... It's a violence, and people want to do it to feel good and powerful even when it may not actually work. She's the terminal state of what MILGRAM already stands for, what you get when you carry all these principles to their logical conclusion. MILGRAM isn't about shades of grey. It's about forcing a binary choice on a complex situation and doling out punishment or reward without the ability for complex interaction based on that binary. However we try to justify it to ourselves as a temporary state or something that can be manipulated to another end, we're all being forced to use Kotoko's black and white worldview every time we attempt to interact with MILGRAM! It's so fascinating. Es, the audience stand-in, is erratic and has a self-deceiving view of their own brutality that borders on delusion. They have good intentions, but also lapse into vengeful behavior and aren't guided by well defined principles. They also lack the ability to behave with true compassion towards the prisoners because by continuing to be the warden, they continue to play the game by the rules it sets. There's no improving a system that's inherently cruel by blindly following it. Kotoko is honest, consistent, and vicious. She sees the terms of the game for what they are and accepts them. She's interacting with MILGRAM the way it encourages people to interact, judging and punishing without fail. She's most separated from Es by her lack of sympathy for the other prisoners, but at the same time, MILGRAM's very setup positions them as criminals and wrongdoers as a baseline and feels meant to constantly lead you back to that point. You need to remember they've done bad things, or they have unpleasant personalities, or that they're imperfect victims... she takes it all at face value and accepts that being in MILGRAM is already a kind of guilty verdict. I think to me she doesn't represent a path or an ideal of MILGRAM, she represents the foundational structure of the system. Maybe you could also consider it the founding principle. It's especially interesting in the context of the historical Milgram experiment- how extreme are you willing to go to "teach" someone correct behavior when the rules of the game tell you there's no limit until they learn or drop? Kotoko has embraced the lack of limit. But Es and the rest of us just keep administering shocks as if they're going to teach something and we aren't being asked to just escalate and escalate. That the experiment was artificial also has such an interesting echo here- the point of the experiment was never to genuinely teach or develop a new understanding of learning to help others. The cruelty was the point. The complicity was the point. It was an exercise in human misery. And again, Kotoko gets that- there's nothing to teach. It's all just a lesson in the cruelty that was already there. She's just so exciting as this meta character who plays with the meaning of the terms of the whole thing. And while there's been a lot of fun pushing on how people interact with the fiction in the voice dramas, I think this is a standout for how it plays with the sense of reality MILGRAM can have. TLDR In love with this woman terrible fucking person and she's SO fun with it Just embodies the spirit of the whole thing so beautifully. She's the worst. I find her unspeakably attractive.
Like her or not, Kotoko does have a point. I get the impression that she doesn't like the idea of being weak, and she also doesn't like the idea of criminals running free. She doesn't want to sit by and do nothing; she has to do something. With Es's inaction against the guilty prisoners (aside from restraining them), she decided to take matters into her own hands because she thought they were too weak to do it themself. But she thinks the only suitable form of punishment for their crimes is physical violence--it's an extreme form of vigilantism.
she has turned herself into that friend you dream of as a broken child(likely herself) that will come to comfort an ease worries but when that dream has its own nightmares you will have a nightmare as your protector
Tecnically she is indeed interfering with Es' job because she is distorting the enviroment in the prision and adding new consecuences to veredicts. It also normal for Es to want to keep prisioners alive because if they die they won't have three trials and he will have less information to judge.
a guard by nature should not be so connected to inmates same with judges for transparency an emotional stability its bad enough having a broken trial but having therapy due to your job is also tradgic which is one the big Jackalope is a bastard pieces of this project
I can see where kotoko is coming from but she needs to be able to think for her-self. She attacked “guilty prisoners” despite it only being the first round just because we said guilty with what little information we had. Her sense of justice is strong but to know if it’s actually justified is also needed. I’m going to vote her guilty. I think it’ll help her see that things aren’t just black and white and that she’s not correct in the sense of violently attacking anyone whose been told guilty. By voting her innocent it would only enforce the idea that she’s correct and to attack those who are “guilty” without actually thinking about it or if they’re actually guilty with her own thoughts and logic.
some of her does have the little kid or siblings says the bullies made me sad an the first reaction is punch them to make the child feel better before asking questions which is relatable but not desired
The fact that Kotoko can so easily get into Es's head and instantly make them doubt themselves just by talking about her own messed-up interpretation of justice is so concerning bc it's physically hurting Es (ie the headache might be linked to stopping her judgement becoming clouded/manipulated by Kotoko from MILGRAM?)
Kotoko is a fine example of person that is inherently good, but stooped to the lowest and most primitive ways. Humanity created civilisation and laws exactly to cull the "justice" like that. She may be right in some cases, but i really think she doesn't get _what_ she's doing in ithe end, because she's same as those who she deems evil. Voting her innocent first time - proved her freedom to punish those she considers unworthy. Voting her Guilty will either break her and turn on herself or make her entrench deeper in her sense of justice and that the world is wrong and she's the only who sees it as is. But the one thing i found - it's her desperation of "You only talk you don't act" that i feel a lot. She has that "You are bad, you should be punished, i don't care about anything like context, nuance and rest. If i consider you _bad_ you i will punish you as hard as possible" attitude, that a lot of young people share.
if anyone hurts a child or a pet humans tend to think of all the details later after some form of punishment is made in order to ease the pain of the victims even if in reality the victim is more the people stepping in then the one who cried in the first place cancel culture is this
10:27 This part right here is what’s giving Kotoko a guilty verdict on top of her attack the others before we even get a full idea of what happened. Kotoko wasn’t killing criminals to protect people. It seems thats its likely that several people she’s “protected” either never asked for it or even explicitly told her not to. She’s been exacting her own justice and honesty that makes her just as bad the criminals. She doesn’t respect the wishes of those she protects.
girl it's not because "we" personally got attached to the prisoners it's because "we" realized that punitive justice is naught but bullshit. but you're close! it's indeed through interacting with them that "we" realized they're just people, with complex problems and psychology but never irredeemable, and not inherently evil or anything, which is very helpful to not fall into the trap of of dehumanization and black 6 white morality / purity culture YOU fell into
simplification is a classic method of children prisoner 1 did it an so is Es an prisoner 10 you avoid staring into the darkness if you keep moving on simpler terms but that can just lead you to head further into the darkness that you refuse to look at
the reason I find her guilty is because when she believes someone is a bad person, she can and will kill them if they go against the justice ideals she's following. Why would everyone forgive her if we know she wants to murder wrongdoers? Does that not make us worse than she is? We've become accomplices because we forgave her and reinforced her ideas that killing someone is okay as long as they really truly deserve it because they did something bad. We're no better than her. if she really did end up killing Mahiru, we would be murders too because we allowed for it to happen..
I know Kotoko is DEFINITELY in the wrong but she does make some points that Es is not very well able to refute. A lot of people see this as her manipulative side but I see it also as the way she quashes the own doubts inside herself. I think she herself is in inner turmoil. She's been screwed over in the past by the very people she protected. So all she can do is steel and void out her own emotions to inflict justice on those she finds evil. Let's also not forget that all those she hurts are ones we decided are guilty. She personally finds everyone here a murderer but she still is willing to let Es have the verdict of who deserves punishment... she is letting him pick who's guilty or innocent and then acting from there. Her song time and again asks Es to give her direction. Cause by her own judgement she'd just go after everyone. I also think she does legitimately care for Es in a way. She does really want to be helpful. She's just very misguided.
She really is not just "misguided". Her first trial already showed that she took pleasure out of inflicting pain on others, and the second shows that the guilty verdict is the nice excuse to enact her retribution. She's not attacking people because she follows Es (or rather our) judgement, she wants us to give her a nice excuse to continue her gruesome and self-satisfactory act. If she was really asking for guidance, why would she beg to continue to attack even the prisonner that have been deemed innocent? Why does she wants to kill the Warden that she apparently consider as a partner? I would have loved for her to be a bona fide vigilante who enact justice in a wrong way. But it turns out that Kotoko is just a selfish, brutal, self-righteous, manipulative cold-blooded killer who takes pleasure out of the suffering she's inflicting. She convinced herself that doing it against people who she deemed as evil with her very loose and convenient definition of evil makes her a virtuous figure and it might have fooled people during the first vote. She doesn't like Es. Es is simply the mean to justify her ends. And I don't think she likes anyone but herself. May this guilty verdict put her back in her place.
@@corrinthechocolatine4025 I think she does crave and enjoy it but I don't think that necessarily voids the idea that she is doing it for the sake of justice. The fact she targeted Mikoto first despite herself giving the opinion that he shouldn't be judged for the crime his alter committed... also let's not forget she's the one that told Es that Milgram can also let him forgive those who would usually be condemned... She doesn't ask to beat the prisoners that are deemed innocent, rather she is simply asking for us to not sway and vote innocent against ones that are guilty because we're soft and don't want to hurt them. I don't think she actually wants to kill him, I think she does perhaps have condescending thoughts towards him and all the others at that... she asks again and again who her next target is. She craves being given a purpose I really think that's unlikely mostly cause simply that'd be boring and Milgram tries to avoid easy black and white answers. I think everything points to that she's a vigilante that got a bit out of hand. They can't directly lie in their trial videos. She really does feel a strong hatred for those that crush the weak. I mean I think if she knew Amane's backstory, she'd probably have gunned for the mother herself On the flipside, I think she deeply cares for Es probably cause he reminds her of lucky as well as probably her own traumatized past that's hinted towards. It is possible she'd like to take over but more likely it seems she wants to be part of it, her outfit in deep cover doesn't match exactly to Es's which makes me think she wants to rather have her own distinct role. I think Es's wishy washyness does irritate her but hate? unlikely. I mean her voice drama opens up with her apologizing for being unable to complete what she set out for. That just doesn't make sense if she doesn't care what Es thinks at all and just is using him. Then conveniently ommitting the fact she was gonna attack Amane makes much more sense
5:26 HER LAUGH I CAN'T BREATHE KOTOKO YUZURIHA YOU'RE SO HOT YOU MAKE ME FEEL THINGS BE MY GF PLS ITS GETTING HARDER TO DEFEND YOU BUT ITS KOTOKO SO ITS OKAY
@@captain_axiez5183 woah- I actually need to name reasons. First of all she’s manipulative. She acts only based or her sense of justice, as if there aren’t any rules u should follow… I mean like things may go her way in milgram, since es is the one who puts these rules. But let’s get real, if she were to kill anyone she feels like is a “wrong doer” then that’s definitely unacceptable. Plus, this person she killed might me “guilty” to her point of view but that doesn’t mean that he’s/she’s (the person she killed) completely guilty. How can u be so sure that she has seen the rest of the picture? How can u be so sure that her sense of justice is everyone’s else’s sense of justice? How can u be sure that she right?? And not to mention, how she almost killed mahiru, and beat Fuuta up, when she’s a prisoner just like them. Maybe she’s just manipulating us, just how like she was trying to manipulate es with good words and so on. I mean like if she wants to keep on whatever she’s doing then she should be happy with the guilty vote I’d give her (No offense tho, I just hate her so much)
I hate most that she blindly relies on someone else’s judgement AND the system while she herself is unaware of the situations of the other prisoners.Some of them could be innocent in her eyes,for example if Amane really did kill her abuser,she should sympathise with her fully,if it really is about protecting children from abusers. But she readily accepts the judgements of some arbitrary warden as inherentl just,because she seems to NEED a reason to beat someone up
I think its pretty obvious from the start that Kotoko was only killing people to make herself feel like a hero. From the fact that she only targets convicted paedos and the fact that she sees herself as a lone wolf (the wolf in harrow represents herself). I think this further proves she doesn't care about the victims cuz they don't matter as long as their deaths can be the excuse she wants. I always would've voted guilty as victims don't matter to her as she never tried to help her targets victims in any sort of way. However, I do think her voice drama proves that even getting voted forgivable won't stop you from getting critiqued for what you did in between trials. I wonder if the reason why she was critiqued so hard is because her case is so cut and dry (she kills bad people and people see that as a good thing because paedos are the worse of the worse) that her critiques were more discussed than the thing she did outside of milgram. I wonder if that means that Amane getting voted innocent won't enable her behavior because she will understand that her her reason to murder is wrong/her religion is not a good enough excuse to murder, but killing her abusive mom is acceptable because of the bs she was put through and it counts as self defense. I hope so.
To be fair, she does seem to care about the victims. The girl she helped was pretty prominent in her second music video. But yes, I also think the main reason she did what she did was that she just liked it, not even that she wanted to feel like a hero (that's Fuuta's motive).
its looks to be that she wants to cover the people who are unable to feel well in there struggles like that figure we all dreamed of as kids but with all the exposed to the worlds complexities she is not sure of herself but its more scary to stop moving to some answer then being left alone stare into the abyss hence the break down at the end of each MV an all the Es breakdowns its the same paranoia @@11th-lemon
oh yeah be happy the younger child is going crazy Es put no one in any place these two parts of the same emotional issue are just exchanging pieces of themselves like when you look at a recording you made for your self you can't easily stop the other version but can think about them
The real question, is Kotoko fully aware of the circumstances of the crimes the guilty prisoners committed or is she just running off of the vague idea that they just “murdered” and nothing more?
i think she briefly would know what happened, or at least i'd like to think so. she's thorough and does proper research/proper planning before attacking or doing anything so she wouldn't have done it spontaneously
@@thevividoldtale In her first MV, he was tracking down the criminal but she only investigate to identify not to make sure. In MILGRAM she already had the "confirmation" that they were murderers and that is enough for her.
On one hand you do you I can’t stop you, but I really encourage thinking about the bigger picture and seeing if the theory works in practice rather than just going “sounds abt right”. Because Kotoko might sound logical, but she is running away from her own problems, and has a very flimsy moral compass which she is making everybody else’s life threatening problem But I really don’t care what u actually vote for, I just like discussing this stuff
I can't choose a verdict for Kotoko. It is too hard for me. I understand her, and at the same tine I do not. I don't know what is best for her. But I do hope she will get one she deserves. Whatever it may be.
Of corse her actions are logical to her, but Milgram is a system involving multiple prisoners, if we vote innocent and let Kotoko keep running wild there is a high chance we end up with undesired corpses. Thing is, we aren’t judging them just for their sin, even Jackalope put emphasis on that. We need to think of the bigger picture, this is a 3 trial system, with our judgements we van direct the prisoners towards a healthier state of mind. The current Kotoko is basically just an even more prideful version of trial 1 Fuuta. Except Fuuta at least felt kind of bad in the end, Kotoko would have beat up a child (a brainwashed one at that) with no remorse. I really think that we’ll likely get the best outcome if we vote unforgiven for this trial, and forgive in the last. Yes in theory “she has a point” but in practice that point is devoid of morality and will go from a side problem to the main one if we let her continue
that is too simple its not simply justifying a murder saying its that simple is the whole reason people like her even get made the viewers often simplified things like shes says we used pretty not important details at times to say I know how to fix this
Thank you for your opinion, but after watching her MV, i still believe with what i said, especially when she ignore the child she helped, but instead busy reading news about potential crime (next target)
Kotoko so scary tho from start she talk 😂😂i know it es and kotoko work together in prison🤣because kotoko just kill the killer with no the rules of justice.. and maybe she have bad memories at the past makes Kotoko lose her mind...you can saw in video harrow..or kotoko know who ES true face 🤨🤨because new song talk about 011 prisoner
I understand kotoko, and I’m genuinely curious to see what led her to have such strong views on justice, but I’m still voting her guilty. For one, idk why, but to me her words made it seem like she felt like she was better than everyone, or beyond most people. As if she was some type of divine giver of karma when in reality, she is not. The deliverance of karma to the other prisoners of milfram is not her responsibility. She isn’t some righteous entity meant to deliver justice. I do believe that she does have a reason to feel this way though, and I am curious to see that. Also, that part of her holding es just felt… weird. Very creepy and manipulative imo. I’ve seen people calling it cute, but it just felt really gross. Especially since es is 15 and may be prone to manipulation since kotoko is 20( I’m not accusing kotoko of anything like that btw I’m just saying that it felt very weird and manipulative) Anyways, I’m very curious on kotoko a character and why she is this way, but we’ll have to wait
The little Red Ridding hood symbolism comes into play here she is the child that has grown to fear but bite back to keep the monsters away from others an herself an Es is also a child unsure of things but wants to find some sort of goal even if its not there an there both going to ruin she cares but is so unable to stop an feel empty she uses such methods
Kotoko killed someone so she also must get hurt as well if this is her morality they killed someone and they get hurt from her so she also must get hurt i vote her unforgivable
Alllllright time to visit my TED talk! I believe Kotoko has a loving heart and she doesn't kill to end a life, but to pacify another. She definitely doesn't believe anyone should have advantages in life, which is what Harrow was pretty much about. Obviously, she doesn't understand moral grayness, but she could learn. Why shouldn't we vote Kotoko guilty, then? After all, she's continuing to kill and avenge. So what's stopping us? KEYWORD: AVENGE I believe she represents a 'hero' she always needed/wanted as a kid. I'm sure her childhood was either quite problematic and traumatizing overall, or she suffered one major event that changed her mentality. Her goal became to be a real life Robin Hood, so to say. She didn't want to just steal from the rich for kicks and giggles, she did it for a purpose. She does not kill for an evil or psychopathic reason, but out of love. And it takes a lot of courage to stand up for a stranger, doesn't it? We see that in our world in crushing ways, and it's not good. We can only wish for more people like Kotoko who have the courage to stand up to the things they don't believe in and know are hurting the world. Murder obviously isn't the solution, but voting her guilty won't have her realize that's the case. The only thing that'll happen is that her passion for helping the weak and serving justice will take major blows. If she loses her morals and sees murder as the only solution, she'll leave Milgram more dangerous than she came in, virtually giving her nothing. She can't afford to have her ideals tested, they're the only thing keeping her from being a literal psychopath. Don't vote her guilty or she'll just become heartless. It's a very slippery slope. My theory for this whole Kotoko-Es partnership is that after Trial 3, there's gonna be a Catching Fire-esque ending. The prisoners and Es will find a way to defeat Milgram and take down the system, which will result in major problems for the less mentally stable prisoners like Haruka or Mikoto. People like Yuno and Kazui will probably be fine- they're remorseful but not too dangerous (also Yuno shouldn't even be in Milgram!?!?). I don't think Milgram's going to hold up for that much longer, it's practically impossible. There's 10, possibly 11 high security prisoners who would become an unstoppable force altogether. Milgram's going down. Why did Kotoko choose Es, though? Why not another prisoner to be her sidekick? Es isn't the stablest either, and they aren't very secure about their identity. I don't think Kotoko has determined if she sees Es as weak or strong, which is why she's refraining from judgement. Es (the audience, really) has abused their power in some ways. We've metavoted, voted based on who's hottest (that being said let's keep Mikoto safe folks), and on who we just straight up don't like. What we haven't all done is vote purely based on the deed and their guilt. Futa put up a nice little facade of toughness and anger while also showing that he felt bad, and look where that got us? He's been flipped inside out and we can't really get him back. STOP METAVOTING I'M BEGGING YALL. True judgement isn't based on how much the person is liked or disliked. Anyways, I believe Kotoko wants to be partners with Es because of their power. Es judges the entire prison, after all. If Es can be manipulated, so can we. At the core of this experiment, the goal is to find out how we follow our morals in relation to judgement and authority. If Kotoko is seen as authority, we're going to have to decide what to do. Whether or not we like Kotoko shouldn't determine the way we judge other prisoners. If we get any sort of bias, the trial is unfair. However, that's what's nice about having an entire fandom behind this thing. Overall Kotoko, like Mikoto, is a good guy with bad plan execution. I'm pretty sure if there was another solution than killing, she'd take it. Also y'all Kotoko is so pretty and cool what would we do without her and like look at Amane and Mahiru their whole look changed after being voted guilty we can't have that now can we I will never forgive this fandom if you change her beyond recognition
I understand where she is coming from and she has a point but her views are way too tunnel visioned and black and white. She concentrates on being rational and detached but if the entire world operates without even an ounce of compasion then there is no room in this world for forgiveness and second chances. Yes there are very despicable people who do unforgiveable things who dont change for the better or deserve to be locked away forever. But there are many real world examples of people who change for the better and people who commit crimes for a very morally gray reason. Not to mention a good amount of prisoners in milgram are undeserving of being in prison to begin with. There are better ways to set people straight and i dont think i can agree with kotoko, yes justice is necessary but it's not when you become a hypocrite and stoop to their level. I know her intentions aren't bad and she has a reason to do this but if she chooses to or doesnt even understand the one crucial thing and that is human emotions then i dont believe she deserves to be innocent this round. What i like to always say is, to be completely rational like a robot as a human is to be irrational. Because thats when you drop all understanding of people and that is irrational in itself since at the end of the day, we are all human. This is my take
God I love the way you said it in the latter section! I’m so going to be using that when discussing irl stuff as well. It’s such a relevant point and you put it into words beautifully
I think its worth pointing out that Kotoko's ethnicity isn't Japanese. In her first interrogation question she mentions that she can speak Mandarin and Korean asides from Japanese. Her place of birth is undisclosed, although a bit stereotypical, I can see her being Korean. What does her ethnicity have to do with anything? In her first music video we can interpret her reason for vengeance for "those who oppress the weak" was originated from her own past experience as a possible SA victim as a child. We don't know if she was assaulted in Japan, Korea, or China, but we can infer that she has a hyperfixation on being the one to uphold "justice for the weak" because she probably didn't receive the justice she deserved from the law. The law enforcers were probably incompetent or outright dismissed her case as a child, which explains her looking down on Es for being incompetent. Taking in consideration her family's ethnicity, she may have been blamed on why she was assaulted in the first place, she hated herself for being weak and unable to protect herself, she didn't want to be assaulted again so she presented herself less feminine and took up martial arts in elementary to make sure that she doesn't get assaulted ever again. She even took up law in university but eventually stopped. "She concentrates on being rational and detached but if the entire world operates without even an ounce of compasion then there is no room in this world for forgiveness and second chances. Yes there are very despicable people who do unforgiveable things who dont change for the better or deserve to be locked away forever." I like to believe that this statement of yours can also help explain why Kotoko is the way she is. For example lets say that she does forgive the person who assaulted her, she forgives the incompetent law enforcers, how does this serve as justice for the victims exactly? For me, Kotoko is logical and manipulative because she knows exactly that is the only way that she can survive. Although these are just my speculations on her background and overall character. I do agree that her violence towards the other prisoners are a bit unwarranted and a bit irrational as this does not really solve her own issues at hand.
Nodoby talking about how pitifully ES did in this interrogation…? They’ve always been logical and had their position clear when communicating with prisoners but HERE, HERE they didn’t even mention WHY what kotoko did was wrong AT ALL. Indeed kotoko punished criminals and helped people but in milgram she just went assaulting people didn’t even knowing wtf they did, didn’t even think about it twice. Girlie you have to be conscious about your actions yk💀not to mention many prisoners do not deserve death and just what if ES’s judgement wasn’t even correct for you??? What if the guiltys had reasons just as YOU have your reasons to kill???
Those who fight monsters should see to it that in the process that they themselves don't become a monster is quote that best describes kotoko she is so obsessed with fighting evil that she doesn't realize that she is becoming no different than the monsters she fights
Im so mad I swear I want to scream so baddly and this is just the first 30 seconds, I dont care about her song nor her backstory nor everything else she may do i will vote everyday even with alts to make her unforgiven
tbh i respect her desire to protect others but i feel its ultimately very misguided. the problem is she sees everything as black and white and all crimes as equally bad regardless of circumstance which is like. honestly a really narrow view of justice. shows she doesnt really have much empathy, not even towards the victims she wants so badly to defend, because her lack of understanding of degrees of severity and extenuating circumstances keeps her from getting why those she protects might not want her protection in the first place. she sees her viewpoint on things as objectively right and doesn't allow any leniency among the things she deems to be wrong. if she thought for herself for a change instead of simply weaponizing herself to fulfill her interpretation of others' desires, i think i would be a lot more inclined to forgive her. the issue with doing drastic things like this for other people is that you can never really understand what it is that other people actually want, and the fact that she gets frustrated at the "weaklings" she defends for not wanting to be saved by violence shows that she isn't actually motivated by her compassion for those who can't protect themselves but rather by her monochromatic sense of justice and need to be seen as "in the right" at all times. if she acted based on her own personal ethics i think i would understand where she's coming from a lot more, but in reality i think her "protecting the weak" is more of an act of selfishness than anything. her criticizing us/es for getting attached to the prisoners is also very indicative of her lack of empathy i think, because imo theres nothing wrong with making judgements from a place of understanding like that, if anything its a much more comprehensive way of seeing things than just basing your views off of objective textbook justice. idk maybe if her mv reveals a super tragic backstory where she was wronged by the justice system or smth ill decide to forgive her since then ill understand her motivations a lot more but like. for now im leaning guilty sorry kotoko my lightyagamicore girlqueen slayboss etc etc hashtag yass
I think Kotoko made a mistake by not judging prisoners based on her own moral system. I agree with her, crimes should be punished. But you can't judge them according to some popularity contest, lol. Mikoto has 72% innocent vote. A serial killer said sorry and everyone forgave him, it's just stupid. But now she realized that. As she said, everybody wants justice and nobody wants to actually do it, or see it, or pay the price. I don't support her "let's just beat up everyone". Punishment should fit the crime. There must be a reason why she was running around chasing a killer and not someone, idk, who crossed a road on a red light or something minor like that. Nonetheless, her judgment regarding the crime she actually committed was still correct, in my opinion. Innocent. I forgive her.
@@EdgeLie"hHey, this guy has a serial-killer alter made of his darkest and more bloothirsty desire that he seems to ignore on purpose to get his dirty work done. Let's do nothing about it and vote him innocent!"
what she did is quite understandable. its like Light from Death Note, you can't really blame them. the only thing she did wrong here is to punish them right after the first trial. if she did this after the result of the third trial then maybe less people would complaint because the we didn't even know everyone's full story yet. whether they are guilty or not is not even certain yet.
i get where kotoko is coming from and honestly, i don't think she should have the guilty vote at all. she was voted innocent for her morals and when she used her morals in milgram, everyone now thinks shes guilty because, like she said, we have an attachment to the prisoners and so really, it's not her fault.
Yeeeeeah, you do have a point. It was already bad enough when Kotoko went after three prisoners, but the moment she said she was after Amane too, all hell broke loose and the Amane fans are ready to give her the guilty votes 😥
I half agree. I do think the attachment to the prisoners does have a bit to do with why people dislike her now, but I think the real reason people voted her innocent in the first trial is because they thought that the child predator that Kotoko killed deserved it. In other words, they judged her victim instead of her herself. If she had killed a middle-schooler who didn’t fully know what they were doing like Futa did, or even someone like Amane (as Kotoko revealed she would have assaulted her), I think people would have realized how twisted her mission is. If anything, I think it was the reveal that she’s willing to attack anyone indiscriminately instead of just clear-cut evil people like the predator that caused people to dislike her.
Kotoko runs her mouth about bringing justice and whatnot but I see through her bullshit. She's the only prisoner who *enjoys* hurting others, whotakes pride inher sin. Her vigilante persona is just a way to justify herself, reaffirm her own ideals and position herself as superior to others. It's not altruism, she simply enjoys the violence but accepting it might put heron the same level as the villains she so despises. Can't have that right? I won't forgive her ever
Does anyone else find it funny how Es is almost always late for these interrogations?
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@@mikukikimasu*they
@@pearlmoth wait really? Oh really! Just checked the official site and that’s true, my bad! I really just assumed because of the 1st person pronoun and the fact so many charas use the -kun ending for them, but it does seem like at the end of the day it’s left unclear on purpose. Thanks for clearing it up for me, I wasn’t aware of this ‘:)
@@mikukikimasu I think you can view Es as any gender and use any pronouns you want since his gender is unknown, I don't know much though. I just saw it in the wiki
I always say fuk it who cares Crona is mostly used as a boy but the wiki is just a fuk you of contradicting lore XD @@xSoha.
Kotoko: "are you sane?"
Me immediately: Girl are you?
she wonders that herself too all her second MVs lyrics can easily be her bashing herself from deep in her mind an heart
LMAO the ppl on TikTok being like “she wouldn’t hurt a kid that’s why she didn’t hurt amane you’re all disgusting” can’t wait till they’re watching this
As someone who initially thought she might not attack a child , the reveal that she would have went after Amane if she wasn’t stopped by Kazui and John actively fighting back/protecting someone else. It makes it even more interesting and frightening in regards to what would’ve happened in trial 1 if one of the people voted guilty were voted innocent instead and gave her time to go after Amane .
Considering Amane IS a child and how an adult like Mahiru would’ve died if it weren’t for Shidou, Kotoko could have killed Amane if it weren’t for others buying time via fighting back and the amount of guilty people there were .
its not just the people on tiktok 😭 pretty much everyone believed this since she genuinely seemed like she would never attack someone like a child
she saved a kid from her abuser in her first mv i think a lot of ppl had reason to assume that...
I’ll be honest… I might be stupid because I was sure of that too. In her first voice drama she said something along the lines of “your job as a warden isn’t just to make guilty people pay, but to protect the innocent” and I was SURE it meant that she didn’t agree with Amane being guilty or that she was unsure whether to go through with her plan or not… but nope, I guess she was talking about herself? It seems like she hates everyone, even the innocent prisoners. She really played me huh :|
@@analyticaltomato tbh I don't think she was lying. I mean she also gives doubts towards finding Mikoto guilty. It's almost like she finds it her purpose to attack those found guilty because well "Es said those are the evils". I think if she legitimately did know all the details and was acting on her own instead of trying to act under Milgram... well she probably would have went for Amane's mother herself. We can blame Kotoko for choosing violence... but the ones that picked the unforgive option was us
She comes across more like someone acting on behalf of someone w/o actually understanding their wishes. She's almost like a soldier, going after those voted guilty IN THE ORDER of how guilty they were found. I mean she APOLOGIZES for failing her perceived mission
Though side note looking at the other T2 voice dramas, between Kotoko's physical violence and the mental scarring just being voted guilty did... the latter is actually the one they were hurt by the most so in a way she does have a point that Milgram's methods might not be as humane compared to hers as we like to pretend
Kotoko feels like the "Final Boss" of Milgram, she rapresents the "easy way out" that we can and always feel tempted to take.
"They're all killers that don't deserve a second chance. So just kill them." It's that easy, all problems are solved, Milgram is over.
She's literally gently tempting us in this very voice drama, and she's so sweet in doing so.
We don't have to think any more of this, let's just leave it to her, everything will be over by doing so.
She's a Final Boss because in order to "save her" we must prove to her that there is a different way of doing things that actually work.
If we are not able to Reform the other prisoners and we simply offer Empty Forgiveness and they'll go back to doing crimes/killing people/being self-destructive people, then she would have been right, we were ineffective.
But if we are able to give those people a way out, give them hope that they can truly be forgiven if they are ready to accept it, then maybe Kotoko will also see the error of her ways and come to see hope in people again.
She doesn't trust people to change, they're just killers and that's all they will ever be, and that's the mindset we have to change.
And it's not something we will be able to do with words alone.
She is very much if we took older sibling an parental figures an made them stress over the whole world themselves she is trying to ease Es of the weight but will crush herself to suffering in the same way
shes so light yagami core
no no no no she is nothing close to him she has actual struggles with her own feelings about herself an such while Light just becomes a Death God himself doing it for lols by the end
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 !!! i agree that kotoko has very different struggles than light but he's definitely not just doing it for lols !!! i am no light yagami defender but he's got some weird mental health issues going on which is what sparked the whole kira thing to begin with. it started out as an accident (he didn't actually think the death note was real and had a mental breakdown in the manga as soon as he realized he'd killed people, which we don't see as visibly in the anime but its still mentioned) which eventually spiraled out of control because he couldn't stand the thought of being Wrong because his Perfect Angel Boy persona was being threatened by his actions so he just kinda. doubled down so as not to be condemned by his own insecurity. he knows he's a monster but refuses to admit it to himself because of his narcissism. this is also why he kills anyone who condemns his actions as Kira because he can't stand the thought of being seen as In The Wrong by Anyone not even himself. obviously doesn't excuse being a mass murderer but it's certainly not for No Reason he just has a god complex after being told he was more special & intelligent than his peers his whole life and his thin illusion of self-importance is shattered the moment he ((accidentally)) gets blood on his hands. his dad's a cop so his sense of justice is probably messed up in part due to his upbringing also. i think kotoko is similar in that her ideals about the world are flawed at their core and at first she just wants to do good which eventually spirals out of her control & she can't stop herself leading to the development of some crazy complexes regarding her self-worth. they both want to do good for society originally/on the surface but are corrupted by egotism/insecurity. i have so many notes app essays written about this topic lmfao anyways i love them both as characters they are so so silly :3
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 I’m not as descriptive as the first person that replied to you but I definitely agree. Light was killing off criminals who were imprisoned for crimes they actually committed. Meanwhile Kotoko hurt those around her who were apparently voted guilty, some of them weren’t even guilty in a sense. For example, I really don’t think Mahiru deserved what Kotoko did to her. Since Mahiru didn’t outright murder someone with her own hands. Her bf only decided to kill himself after realizing how toxic the relationship was. But it was sort of toxic in both ways, so in turn, it harmed Mahiru’s mental health as well. While Light kills criminals, Kotoko HURT “guilty” people.
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 Tell me you don't understand Light Yagamis character without telling me you don't understand Light Yagamis character
I’m interested why Es’s headache acted up when Kotoko said they were imperfect. Normally that happens when they start realizing they’re basically a hivemind, so it seems significant that even the thought of being imperfect is enough to trigger those thoughts now.
I once a long time ago spoke about the idea that some prisoners are supposed to mimic Es traumas it seems that Es has a big messy family an knowing books with children in large families stuff Middle Child Syndrome can make people like Es
this theory stimulates my brain
По-моему это логично. Если сказать человеку, что он несовершенен, то первое о чём он подумает "Что именно во мне несовершенно?". А чтобы ответить на этот
вопрос, нужно сначала понять, что ты из себя представляешь.
Эс слышит обвинение в несовершенстве -- Эс пытается найти ошибку, что привести контраргумент -- Эс анализирует свои действия -- Эс случайно касается мыслей о своей истинной сущности -- срабатывает блокировка -- Эсу становится плохо. Всё просто.
Если бы Котоко сказала "Твои действия несовершенны", то он бы задал себе вопрос "Что я сделал не так?" и далее вопрос "А что я вообще сделал?"
Но она сказала "ТЫ несовершенен", что привело его к вопросу "Что СО МНОЙ не так?" и, как следствие, к вопросу "Кто я?"
@@Камико_АцуноOH THAT’S SUCH A GOOD POINT
Codependent Relationships
Obscene Disillusionment
Flames of Justice
Shaky Authority
Nuanced Theft
Unstoppable Passion
Unwilling Deception
Brash Faith
Self-Preservation
Straightforward Judgment
Every prisoner represents an ideal, or fundamental aspect, of MILGRAM...
a visual I made in my head that shows off its clear goal in the project is Es chained to his chair while each prisoner interacts with them an Jackalope shows up with a collar of prisoners ID Cards to give to Es like a crown of thorns
Haruka killed out of envy and Mikoto's alter randomly started killing one day
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 Harukas killing out of envy was strictly linked to his unhealthy relationship with his mother, which caused him several emotional damage and has lead him to codependency with everyone that shows interest or affection towards him. All of this is connected one way or another
Doesn’t Kotoko’s morality seem really shallow? Even though she strives to protect ‘weaklings,’ her cold view on Amane and calling Haruka a parasite in DeepCover suggests she only wants to protect people that are perfect victims. If they have a mental illness or anything that might make it possibly harder to feel sympathy for them, she just sees them as bad as the criminals she goes against. She likes to see morality as ‘black and white,’ and for that reason I don’t think she cares about the people she ‘protects’ at all. Doesn’t it seem like she’s only doing this to feel better about herself?
Also, im gonna be real, I don’t know how Kotoko hasn’t gotten caught by the police yet (unless she bribed them? we see her bribe someone for information in Harrow so we know she isn’t better than that). She sees shoplifters worthy of the same ‘punishment’ as murderers based on the text in Harrow, and considering Fuuta’s injuries, don’t you think it’s likely she’s permanently disabled other people she attacked in her pursuit of ‘justice’?
it has been said before that there seems to be a lot of projecting outwards an cutting inwards alone with her she keeps wanting to have victims latch on to her to a extent but everyone an herself make her react with Ridiculous much like when your confused as a kid you default to this is stupid
5:09 Es: Keep my prisoners names, OUT YOUR F***ING MOUTH
HAHAHAH
her manipulating was so scary 😭 literally guilty LOLLL
everyone here is manipulating duh Es is not denying it Es admits it plainly
Goodness gracious 5:43 - 8:02 ...that split second shift between her demeaning and mocking Es by saying they are useless on their own to holding them and telling them that they can help each other if they work "together" and that they are so kind. She graduated top of her class at the school of manipulation with a major in utilization of the insecurities of a child.
She's just using Es to enact her own ideals about humanity and what it means to be "perfect" and the meaning of justice but we've already seen what her fangs can do...
That moment felt really wrong. Muu should take notes, Amane and Kotoko truly knows how to make Es feel scared.
Shes actual filth to me after watching thus, holy shit. From favorite to "I actually hate you" in the matter of seconds
She sounds so evil. She sounds like a groomer...i hate that sickly sweet tone shift.
Actually revolting
On the flip side, Es breaking away from her was a very moment. Very empowering
I think Kotoko wanted someone like her as a kid, due to abuse she recieved during that time. Its unforunate that she didn’t take into account just how much our abusers affect us.
Just how much they influence us into mirroring and reflecting their own horrendous selves.
her MV was her being freaked at the child that could do nothing but just look up at her an with that reaction with the lyrics of the song she is really not sure of herself but hates to acknowledge it @@kagomagica
Imo kotoko is genuinely scary like she acruallt scares me, all/most of the other prisoners show a lot of emotions in their vd but the way kotoko Just sounds so calm makes me err
Yeah, I am legit terrified, I know where you're coming from XD
the adults where the same though Kazui admits that he scares himself
my heart is ACHING for Es. I have no idea why I’m so attached to them, but just imagine you being Es. No memories, head hurts every time you try to remember something, 10 murderers that you need to talk to every. Single. Day, getting gaslighted on a daily basis, people trying to attack you, etc… I just feel like giving them a big hug. Though it certainly doesn’t justify their actions, it surely does makes sense, a lot. The amount of mental breakdowns Es has gotten (and why is it always almost linked to their identity?) and the instant coping mechanism of being apathetic, it’s quite sad. In the end, their only a teenager without any memories.
Be honest, you’ll probably do something similar in their position wont you?
Also, by the way, I think the “something hitting the ground” at like 8:27 was probably es hitting themself? Idk, it’s just a possibility.
es probably fell to the ground while trying to get out of kotoko’s hug
в русской версии он стукнул себя по виску, чтобы придти в себя. Возможно что и упал, но наши переводчики расценили это именно как "вправление себе мозгов".
OH MY GOD SHE WAS PLANNING ON ATTACKING AMANE TOO LOL
Very hypocritical too of her imo, she attacked those who abused children but once a child in that situation fights back or snaps suddenly they are guilty?
I thought that she didn’t attack Amane since she was a kid
BUT NOW THIS CHANGES MY WHOLE PERSPECTIVE ON HER
So the means that if she’s innocent and she’s able to harm the guilty prisoners next trial, that means that Haruka and Muu are not gonna have a good time..
@@StephungusIn the birthday timeline, she agreed with Haruka to not do anything to him or interfere as Haruka plans to take his own life since Muu was voted guilty . I don’t know if Muu’s safe though, Haruka’s reasoning to Kotoko was “to protect” from what I can remember so while there is a VERY SLIM chance Muu might not be in danger due to this being because Haruka’s plan is literally dedicated to Muu, this IS Kotoko we’re talking about.. and it’s a lot more likely that Muu’s in danger.
Thankfully since we still have Kazui with no restrictions, and a lot of people seem to be leaning towards voting Kotoko guilty meaning she gets some restrictions, there’s some hope that things will be a bit better? But it’s really hard to say
don't act like Es is any less hypocritical at times too these two people are cut from the same cloth an both fear many things about others an themselves but they fear stopping even more @@user-mo8li
based on the audio drama and the lyrics for the song, im still gonna vote her guilty. but i can totally get where kotoko is coming from and i realized that she's basically the very thing im afraid of becoming. she's someone who "wants to help", but her desire to help others is being twisted by her own strength. she knows she's stronger than the others, so she's using that as an excuse to carry out her own justice while under the delusion that she's "helping" them when really she's not. she probably doesn't fully understand it herself, she probably genuinely thinks she's helping, but she's not.
she's frustrated with Es for not taking action. hence, she acts without their permission to punish the guilty. she thinks it's helping, but it's not--that's HER idea of justice, and not Es's. Es didn't want the prisoners to get punished for their actions, because Es got attached to the prisoners. They're human like everyone else--weak, imperfect. Kotoko is "more perfect" than Es in every way in terms of being a warden... but this is not Kotoko's prison, this is Es's prison. Es is in charge and she failed to remember this.
I'll vote her guilty because I think even though she has good intentions, she is absolutely not doing it in the right way. If we vote her guilty now and she comes to her senses in Trial 3 as a result, I'll vote her innocent then. But for now, she needs to remember that we're the ones in charge.
EDIT: On the other hand, I think Es could also learn a bit from Kotoko, and I think they have in this audio drama. They're imperfect, and they recognize that now. But they're accepting that, and hopefully that'll allow them to improve and get stronger too.
I think maybe the trigger is "imperfect" as "incomplete" maybe?
a lot of people in this program are looking for themselves an being more whole by some definition an having Es react this way adds to that, they search for it alone an got burned an before someone was there to help them process it they ended up here @@candescence
@rofrago I don't really think that's the case, there's definitely a part of her that sees things that way but if you look at her first voice drama & Mikoto's first voice drama as well as some other stuff (like translations of the text in the video) I think she does care how Milgram judges but still doesn't agree w/ how soft Es is. Also think it was actually the victim's father that threatened the kid to withdraw her testimony so that Kotoko's justified defense plea would fail w/o anyone to witness she was protecting anyone
I think she's scarred of being betrayed the most. Finding out she trusted someone evil is her damage. But at the same time, she hates working alone. I think she grew attached to Milgram because it took away her access to reading the news.
Thanks for making this video! I see a lot of people calling Kotoko manipulative, but I think she truly believes in what she said. That's why at the end she got mad at Es for not attempting to gain power by themself. My main problem with her is that she attacked "guilty" people without knowing anything about what had happened, but the premise that the people she attacked were guilty was never questioned, sadly.
Normally I instinctively root against the mayority in Milgram, but I think the guilty veredict is deserved. She is too excited to attack even the "innocent" prisoners. I doubt the veredict is going to change her for better, though.
I have said this a lot but she really is looking at children an feeling you an I are useless it hurts its confusing its stupid an MV 2 she to a point feels that she is also ridiculous but can't stop if she or Es stopped fully it would hurt horribly an to her some exploitation to make things easier is something worth trying reminds me of an anime that ends with a lie to a child about there dead parents just to avoid seeing them depressed which is cruel but understandable
What I hate about Kotoko's mentality is how people are either bad or good and if they are decided bad their lifes have no value.
It is completly against the idea of moral grayness and redemption.
I don't think that her nearly killing people is only bad because I like the characters.
I think no one should decide if someone has the right to live or not specially if it ignores the circustances and motives their actions.
Exactly, and because of this I’m pretty sure that if she got encouraged any more, got an innocent vote again, I don’t think she would only be going after the freshly-guilty voted prisoners. They’d likely get the most severe punishments, but since she doesn’t really believe in people changing she most definitely would have a “once guilty always guilty” mindset and would not hold back any punches for those who already have a guilty result on their record
I really can see how someone can get into that state an have a ways to claw out of it considering how many people IRL feel uncomfortable an scared of saying out loud stuff like white people are not this, this nation is not this and these people are not this because when you admit those worlds an it backfires it feel horrible when your alone @@mikukikimasu
Reminds me of Kira,it started as killing the killers then the people doing smaller and smaller crimes till it extended to the enforcers of law against him and even his own family @@mikukikimasu
dear god kotoko whispering into es's ear like that genuinely creeped me out any thought i had towards voting kotoko innocent is just straight out the window now
the ASMR is used in this program to always make the big parts hit in these
shes so guilty i love her so much
literally... i love her
The thing about Kotoko is that she's just as if not more bloodthirsty than the rest of the group, she attacks "guilty" people thinking itll give her a moral high ground whilst forgetting that murder is murder. Milgram prisoners are ALL killers and weather we forgive them depends entirely on their behavior 🤷🏽♀️
well the obvious answer at the end of the day is to not forgive the actions of any of them but forgive the person an ease there hearts so they can do good for people an in turn feel better themselves many people where in the Nazi party but after the war found somewhere to repent to themselves an others an have peace
4:59 - 5:26 Probably the most profound moment of this trial for me. At first I was happy for Kotoko being put in her place, only to gasp at immediately realizing that Es proved Kotoko’s point that Es also uses violence when people don’t act the way they want. And her point at 10:23 - 11:00 was also proven, in that for a brief moment I was happy to see her hurt.
yup the words I said way back in first trial an the second MV added too is the idea Es is a stand in for what she saw in children an herself when she was younger a case of am not fully working for others am working for what I print myself on too an seeing them struggle pisses me off something like that
many people hate seeing something redo there bad history
She is such a manipulative hypocrite i love her what a queen
There are so many instances where Kotoko and es break the fourth wall.
in 11:04 Es says " *We're* weak" "That's how *we* are". I wonder why they referred to themselves as multiple people.
in 11:45 Kotoko says "The world will just rot no matter how *many of you* there are" Again referring to es as multiple people.
in 12:09, Es says, "You may *embody one of the Milgram ideals* for sure". Again, with the fourth wall breaking, but es is realizing Kotoko symbolizes one of the Milgram ideals.
@@pearlmoth I know that, It's just that es doesn't know they represent the audience.
@@pearlmoth alright
i personally viewed the plural pronouns in this instance as Es acknowledging Kotoko calling them a weakling, thus speaking as a group; speaking as a representative of “weaklings”, and Kotoko with her speech abt said “weaklings”.
but that’s just me ¯\(ツ)/¯
@@keikochii yeah that’s how i felt abt it too
its both Es speak for people in general an that doubles as us since where basically those intrusive thoughts we all have which makes people weak @@keikochii
Reminder that this is a 3 trial system for a *reason*. If it's "Kotoko has the right morals" then this should be one time judge. So we need to reject the idea of her "executing justice" on the guilty prisoners rn.
i would vote her innocent in trial 3, but right now she needs to be humbled.
I'm just gonna use the trial system to "punish" her for attacking the others but also to stop her from attacking haruka and muu. Afterall, Kazui can't save both of them, there's the issue with innocent Amane, as well as Haruka trying to kill himself.
@@enamiamappi
Finally someone seems to remember about Haruka's threat.
I really wish that maybe Shidou can do something about it or that the restraining stops him .
Tbh I don’t this statement holds up anymore now that I think about it… I’M VERY CONFLICTED.
"What's next? Going to give them leniency for their looks?"
*cough cough* Kayano Mikoto *cough cough*
GUYS ITS NOT WHAR IT SEEMS
HELP ME
I personally did give him leniency bc bokukoto wasn't a killer, orekoto was.
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 HELP, BOKUKOTO😭😭
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 yeah tbh i feel like everyone is overthinking mikotos case.
Like, his MV is so fucking blunt that he had nothing to do with the murder, and that oretoko was the one doing all the killing in part 2. And he was just scared. And everyone in milgram is just soo used to theories that they overthink mikoto's case. But we've wlready done that before. We tend to overthink too much on sht we shouldnt even overthink about because the answer is right infront of our faces.For instance, Mahiru. Mahiru's case was simple, she was inlove. Thats all the song talked abt, she didnt explain what the murder was, because there WAS no murder, and she didnt kill. The boyfriend killed himself, hence,not her fault. But because the fanbase overthinks too much, they thought she was some psychopathic yandere and decided to vote her guilty, and now look at what happened.
I get that all theories of mikotp makes sense, but also dont forget that, "what if we were all overthinking this from the start? And that the plot was just as easy as it already shows on the screen?"
this had me rooting for es like hell yeah don't let her decide for YOU!!
actually fuck kotoko like imo we didn't ask for prisoners to get beaten up if we see them guilty and it's not just prisoners, i absolutely despise her thinking. we can vote on whatever we want as a basis and ktk beating prisoners up puts me REALLY off. idk how to express everything into words
I'm so fond of Kotoko... she's a horrible person who's obsessed with punitive justice to the exclusion of doing anything reparative for victims, but I love her twisted idealism and how /principled/ she is even if her principles are just terrible. Obviously she's awful and manipulative here and just trying to get endorsement for further violence, but man some of the shit she says is just right. Es's arbitrary/emotionally motivated uses of physical abuse as punishment aren't better than her (consistent and even) use of physical violence to punish misbehavior. It's not right that isolation, imprisonment, and psychological abuse are somehow "humane" or moral compared to physical violence even if physical violence isn't itself good either. And there is /such/ a strong vein of catharsis seeking in terms of "punishing" or "correcting" prisoners in MILGRAM... It's a violence, and people want to do it to feel good and powerful even when it may not actually work. She's the terminal state of what MILGRAM already stands for, what you get when you carry all these principles to their logical conclusion. MILGRAM isn't about shades of grey. It's about forcing a binary choice on a complex situation and doling out punishment or reward without the ability for complex interaction based on that binary. However we try to justify it to ourselves as a temporary state or something that can be manipulated to another end, we're all being forced to use Kotoko's black and white worldview every time we attempt to interact with MILGRAM!
It's so fascinating. Es, the audience stand-in, is erratic and has a self-deceiving view of their own brutality that borders on delusion. They have good intentions, but also lapse into vengeful behavior and aren't guided by well defined principles. They also lack the ability to behave with true compassion towards the prisoners because by continuing to be the warden, they continue to play the game by the rules it sets. There's no improving a system that's inherently cruel by blindly following it. Kotoko is honest, consistent, and vicious. She sees the terms of the game for what they are and accepts them. She's interacting with MILGRAM the way it encourages people to interact, judging and punishing without fail. She's most separated from Es by her lack of sympathy for the other prisoners, but at the same time, MILGRAM's very setup positions them as criminals and wrongdoers as a baseline and feels meant to constantly lead you back to that point. You need to remember they've done bad things, or they have unpleasant personalities, or that they're imperfect victims... she takes it all at face value and accepts that being in MILGRAM is already a kind of guilty verdict.
I think to me she doesn't represent a path or an ideal of MILGRAM, she represents the foundational structure of the system. Maybe you could also consider it the founding principle. It's especially interesting in the context of the historical Milgram experiment- how extreme are you willing to go to "teach" someone correct behavior when the rules of the game tell you there's no limit until they learn or drop? Kotoko has embraced the lack of limit. But Es and the rest of us just keep administering shocks as if they're going to teach something and we aren't being asked to just escalate and escalate. That the experiment was artificial also has such an interesting echo here- the point of the experiment was never to genuinely teach or develop a new understanding of learning to help others. The cruelty was the point. The complicity was the point. It was an exercise in human misery. And again, Kotoko gets that- there's nothing to teach. It's all just a lesson in the cruelty that was already there.
She's just so exciting as this meta character who plays with the meaning of the terms of the whole thing. And while there's been a lot of fun pushing on how people interact with the fiction in the voice dramas, I think this is a standout for how it plays with the sense of reality MILGRAM can have.
TLDR In love with this woman terrible fucking person and she's SO fun with it Just embodies the spirit of the whole thing so beautifully. She's the worst. I find her unspeakably attractive.
4:54 it's funny because these are the basis that we can vote the prisoners. It dosen't have to be law or morals😆
Mikot- *cough* *cough*
Like her or not, Kotoko does have a point.
I get the impression that she doesn't like the idea of being weak, and she also doesn't like the idea of criminals running free. She doesn't want to sit by and do nothing; she has to do something. With Es's inaction against the guilty prisoners (aside from restraining them), she decided to take matters into her own hands because she thought they were too weak to do it themself. But she thinks the only suitable form of punishment for their crimes is physical violence--it's an extreme form of vigilantism.
she has turned herself into that friend you dream of as a broken child(likely herself) that will come to comfort an ease worries but when that dream has its own nightmares you will have a nightmare as your protector
Tecnically she is indeed interfering with Es' job because she is distorting the enviroment in the prision and adding new consecuences to veredicts.
It also normal for Es to want to keep prisioners alive because if they die they won't have three trials and he will have less information to judge.
a guard by nature should not be so connected to inmates same with judges for transparency an emotional stability its bad enough having a broken trial but having therapy due to your job is also tradgic which is one the big Jackalope is a bastard pieces of this project
I can see where kotoko is coming from but she needs to be able to think for her-self. She attacked “guilty prisoners” despite it only being the first round just because we said guilty with what little information we had. Her sense of justice is strong but to know if it’s actually justified is also needed. I’m going to vote her guilty. I think it’ll help her see that things aren’t just black and white and that she’s not correct in the sense of violently attacking anyone whose been told guilty. By voting her innocent it would only enforce the idea that she’s correct and to attack those who are “guilty” without actually thinking about it or if they’re actually guilty with her own thoughts and logic.
some of her does have the little kid or siblings says the bullies made me sad an the first reaction is punch them to make the child feel better before asking questions which is relatable but not desired
It's Perfect, Can't wait for the mv, and thanks for the videeooo 🤩🤩
The fact that Kotoko can so easily get into Es's head and instantly make them doubt themselves just by talking about her own messed-up interpretation of justice is so concerning bc it's physically hurting Es (ie the headache might be linked to stopping her judgement becoming clouded/manipulated by Kotoko from MILGRAM?)
Kotoko is a fine example of person that is inherently good, but stooped to the lowest and most primitive ways. Humanity created civilisation and laws exactly to cull the "justice" like that. She may be right in some cases, but i really think she doesn't get _what_ she's doing in ithe end, because she's same as those who she deems evil.
Voting her innocent first time - proved her freedom to punish those she considers unworthy. Voting her Guilty will either break her and turn on herself or make her entrench deeper in her sense of justice and that the world is wrong and she's the only who sees it as is.
But the one thing i found - it's her desperation of "You only talk you don't act" that i feel a lot. She has that "You are bad, you should be punished, i don't care about anything like context, nuance and rest. If i consider you _bad_ you i will punish you as hard as possible" attitude, that a lot of young people share.
if anyone hurts a child or a pet humans tend to think of all the details later after some form of punishment is made in order to ease the pain of the victims even if in reality the victim is more the people stepping in then the one who cried in the first place cancel culture is this
KOTOKO’S SO FUCKING FINE….
10:27 This part right here is what’s giving Kotoko a guilty verdict on top of her attack the others before we even get a full idea of what happened. Kotoko wasn’t killing criminals to protect people. It seems thats its likely that several people she’s “protected” either never asked for it or even explicitly told her not to. She’s been exacting her own justice and honesty that makes her just as bad the criminals. She doesn’t respect the wishes of those she protects.
GASLIGHT GATEKEEP GIRLBOSS
No stop why is that literally her😭
girl it's not because "we" personally got attached to the prisoners it's because "we" realized that punitive justice is naught but bullshit. but you're close! it's indeed through interacting with them that "we" realized they're just people, with complex problems and psychology but never irredeemable, and not inherently evil or anything, which is very helpful to not fall into the trap of of dehumanization and black 6 white morality / purity culture YOU fell into
simplification is a classic method of children
prisoner 1 did it an so is Es an prisoner 10 you avoid staring into the darkness if you keep moving on simpler terms but that can just lead you to head further into the darkness that you refuse to look at
the reason I find her guilty is because when she believes someone is a bad person, she can and will kill them if they go against the justice ideals she's following. Why would everyone forgive her if we know she wants to murder wrongdoers? Does that not make us worse than she is? We've become accomplices because we forgave her and reinforced her ideas that killing someone is okay as long as they really truly deserve it because they did something bad. We're no better than her. if she really did end up killing Mahiru, we would be murders too because we allowed for it to happen..
I know Kotoko is DEFINITELY in the wrong but she does make some points that Es is not very well able to refute. A lot of people see this as her manipulative side but I see it also as the way she quashes the own doubts inside herself. I think she herself is in inner turmoil. She's been screwed over in the past by the very people she protected. So all she can do is steel and void out her own emotions to inflict justice on those she finds evil. Let's also not forget that all those she hurts are ones we decided are guilty. She personally finds everyone here a murderer but she still is willing to let Es have the verdict of who deserves punishment... she is letting him pick who's guilty or innocent and then acting from there. Her song time and again asks Es to give her direction. Cause by her own judgement she'd just go after everyone.
I also think she does legitimately care for Es in a way. She does really want to be helpful. She's just very misguided.
She really is not just "misguided". Her first trial already showed that she took pleasure out of inflicting pain on others, and the second shows that the guilty verdict is the nice excuse to enact her retribution. She's not attacking people because she follows Es (or rather our) judgement, she wants us to give her a nice excuse to continue her gruesome and self-satisfactory act.
If she was really asking for guidance, why would she beg to continue to attack even the prisonner that have been deemed innocent? Why does she wants to kill the Warden that she apparently consider as a partner?
I would have loved for her to be a bona fide vigilante who enact justice in a wrong way. But it turns out that Kotoko is just a selfish, brutal, self-righteous, manipulative cold-blooded killer who takes pleasure out of the suffering she's inflicting. She convinced herself that doing it against people who she deemed as evil with her very loose and convenient definition of evil makes her a virtuous figure and it might have fooled people during the first vote.
She doesn't like Es. Es is simply the mean to justify her ends. And I don't think she likes anyone but herself. May this guilty verdict put her back in her place.
@@corrinthechocolatine4025 I think she does crave and enjoy it but I don't think that necessarily voids the idea that she is doing it for the sake of justice. The fact she targeted Mikoto first despite herself giving the opinion that he shouldn't be judged for the crime his alter committed... also let's not forget she's the one that told Es that Milgram can also let him forgive those who would usually be condemned...
She doesn't ask to beat the prisoners that are deemed innocent, rather she is simply asking for us to not sway and vote innocent against ones that are guilty because we're soft and don't want to hurt them. I don't think she actually wants to kill him, I think she does perhaps have condescending thoughts towards him and all the others at that... she asks again and again who her next target is. She craves being given a purpose
I really think that's unlikely mostly cause simply that'd be boring and Milgram tries to avoid easy black and white answers. I think everything points to that she's a vigilante that got a bit out of hand. They can't directly lie in their trial videos. She really does feel a strong hatred for those that crush the weak. I mean I think if she knew Amane's backstory, she'd probably have gunned for the mother herself
On the flipside, I think she deeply cares for Es probably cause he reminds her of lucky as well as probably her own traumatized past that's hinted towards. It is possible she'd like to take over but more likely it seems she wants to be part of it, her outfit in deep cover doesn't match exactly to Es's which makes me think she wants to rather have her own distinct role. I think Es's wishy washyness does irritate her but hate? unlikely. I mean her voice drama opens up with her apologizing for being unable to complete what she set out for. That just doesn't make sense if she doesn't care what Es thinks at all and just is using him. Then conveniently ommitting the fact she was gonna attack Amane makes much more sense
5:26 HER LAUGH I CAN'T BREATHE KOTOKO YUZURIHA YOU'RE SO HOT YOU MAKE ME FEEL THINGS BE MY GF PLS ITS GETTING HARDER TO DEFEND YOU BUT ITS KOTOKO SO ITS OKAY
real
REAL
0:39 OH SHIT SHE WAS GONNA ATTACK THE CHILD
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In which part?
@@captain_axiez5183 woah- I actually need to name reasons.
First of all she’s manipulative. She acts only based or her sense of justice, as if there aren’t any rules u should follow… I mean like things may go her way in milgram, since es is the one who puts these rules. But let’s get real, if she were to kill anyone she feels like is a “wrong doer” then that’s definitely unacceptable. Plus, this person she killed might me “guilty” to her point of view but that doesn’t mean that he’s/she’s (the person she killed) completely guilty. How can u be so sure that she has seen the rest of the picture? How can u be so sure that her sense of justice is everyone’s else’s sense of justice? How can u be sure that she right??
And not to mention, how she almost killed mahiru, and beat Fuuta up, when she’s a prisoner just like them. Maybe she’s just manipulating us, just how like she was trying to manipulate es with good words and so on. I mean like if she wants to keep on whatever she’s doing then she should be happy with the guilty vote I’d give her
(No offense tho, I just hate her so much)
I hate most that she blindly relies on someone else’s judgement AND the system while she herself is unaware of the situations of the other prisoners.Some of them could be innocent in her eyes,for example if Amane really did kill her abuser,she should sympathise with her fully,if it really is about protecting children from abusers. But she readily accepts the judgements of some arbitrary warden as inherentl just,because she seems to NEED a reason to beat someone up
this tbh like man she crazy !!
I think its pretty obvious from the start that Kotoko was only killing people to make herself feel like a hero. From the fact that she only targets convicted paedos and the fact that she sees herself as a lone wolf (the wolf in harrow represents herself). I think this further proves she doesn't care about the victims cuz they don't matter as long as their deaths can be the excuse she wants. I always would've voted guilty as victims don't matter to her as she never tried to help her targets victims in any sort of way.
However, I do think her voice drama proves that even getting voted forgivable won't stop you from getting critiqued for what you did in between trials. I wonder if the reason why she was critiqued so hard is because her case is so cut and dry (she kills bad people and people see that as a good thing because paedos are the worse of the worse) that her critiques were more discussed than the thing she did outside of milgram.
I wonder if that means that Amane getting voted innocent won't enable her behavior because she will understand that her her reason to murder is wrong/her religion is not a good enough excuse to murder, but killing her abusive mom is acceptable because of the bs she was put through and it counts as self defense. I hope so.
"Only targets convicted paedos" This was proven to be inaccurate, but I agree for the rest.
To be fair, she does seem to care about the victims. The girl she helped was pretty prominent in her second music video.
But yes, I also think the main reason she did what she did was that she just liked it, not even that she wanted to feel like a hero (that's Fuuta's motive).
its looks to be that she wants to cover the people who are unable to feel well in there struggles like that figure we all dreamed of as kids but with all the exposed to the worlds complexities she is not sure of herself but its more scary to stop moving to some answer then being left alone stare into the abyss hence the break down at the end of each MV an all the Es breakdowns its the same paranoia @@11th-lemon
Finally, someone put the crazy woman in her place.
oh yeah be happy the younger child is going crazy Es put no one in any place these two parts of the same emotional issue are just exchanging pieces of themselves like when you look at a recording you made for your self you can't easily stop the other version but can think about them
I can't wait to vote her guilty!
The real question, is Kotoko fully aware of the circumstances of the crimes the guilty prisoners committed or is she just running off of the vague idea that they just “murdered” and nothing more?
i think she briefly would know what happened, or at least i'd like to think so. she's thorough and does proper research/proper planning before attacking or doing anything so she wouldn't have done it spontaneously
she’s running off the fact we voted then guilty.
@@thevividoldtale In her first MV, he was tracking down the criminal but she only investigate to identify not to make sure.
In MILGRAM she already had the "confirmation" that they were murderers and that is enough for her.
@@kaiaromanelli-sr4rxthis. She made it very clear that’s really the only thing she cared about here
I don't know how much she knows, but the lyrics of her second music video imply she knows what the others did.
Invested in people's disasters but takes the position of "doing nothing with it". Girl called out Milgram fanbase damn.
tbh i get where she’s coming from gunna be voting her forgiven
On one hand you do you I can’t stop you, but I really encourage thinking about the bigger picture and seeing if the theory works in practice rather than just going “sounds abt right”. Because Kotoko might sound logical, but she is running away from her own problems, and has a very flimsy moral compass which she is making everybody else’s life threatening problem
But I really don’t care what u actually vote for, I just like discussing this stuff
Es an her both know this but fear stopping the unknown an staying still is humans worst fears @@mikukikimasu
Dang she’s hot… anyways, I’m voting her guilty 😭
I can't choose a verdict for Kotoko. It is too hard for me. I understand her, and at the same tine I do not. I don't know what is best for her. But I do hope she will get one she deserves. Whatever it may be.
Both of them are wrong. Es and Kotoko both shouldn't be violent-
Anyways, thanks for that video, can't wait for kotoko's guilty vote 😔✨
Okay I want to vote her guilty but if we vote her inno, she can give Muu the worlds worst reality check
@jazzyjordan Mu really does not need this bs right now. In fact, the main reason why I want her to be guilty is for Mu's (and Haruka's) sake.
Of corse her actions are logical to her, but Milgram is a system involving multiple prisoners, if we vote innocent and let Kotoko keep running wild there is a high chance we end up with undesired corpses.
Thing is, we aren’t judging them just for their sin, even Jackalope put emphasis on that. We need to think of the bigger picture, this is a 3 trial system, with our judgements we van direct the prisoners towards a healthier state of mind.
The current Kotoko is basically just an even more prideful version of trial 1 Fuuta. Except Fuuta at least felt kind of bad in the end, Kotoko would have beat up a child (a brainwashed one at that) with no remorse.
I really think that we’ll likely get the best outcome if we vote unforgiven for this trial, and forgive in the last. Yes in theory “she has a point” but in practice that point is devoid of morality and will go from a side problem to the main one if we let her continue
Kotoko have a point, but she only trying to find a reason to justify her murder, nothing else
that is too simple its not simply justifying a murder saying its that simple is the whole reason people like her even get made the viewers often simplified things like shes says we used pretty not important details at times to say I know how to fix this
Thank you for your opinion, but after watching her MV, i still believe with what i said, especially when she ignore the child she helped, but instead busy reading news about potential crime (next target)
@@yukkikana that's not adding to justification just that she has tunnel vision as her workflow
I have a lot to say about her MV, but too bad that i write it in Indonesian. I still believe with what i said
Kotoko so scary tho from start she talk 😂😂i know it es and kotoko work together in prison🤣because kotoko just kill the killer with no the rules of justice.. and maybe she have bad memories at the past makes Kotoko lose her mind...you can saw in video harrow..or kotoko know who ES true face 🤨🤨because new song talk about 011 prisoner
i’m voting her guilty I LOVE ES TOO MUCH!!!
nevermind yall i watched deep cover mv 😅😅
6:57 i’m. indidoed died
I’MM DYDUNGFMSHEU’S SO
I understand kotoko, and I’m genuinely curious to see what led her to have such strong views on justice, but I’m still voting her guilty.
For one, idk why, but to me her words made it seem like she felt like she was better than everyone, or beyond most people. As if she was some type of divine giver of karma when in reality, she is not. The deliverance of karma to the other prisoners of milfram is not her responsibility. She isn’t some righteous entity meant to deliver justice. I do believe that she does have a reason to feel this way though, and I am curious to see that.
Also, that part of her holding es just felt… weird. Very creepy and manipulative imo. I’ve seen people calling it cute, but it just felt really gross. Especially since es is 15 and may be prone to manipulation since kotoko is 20( I’m not accusing kotoko of anything like that btw I’m just saying that it felt very weird and manipulative)
Anyways, I’m very curious on kotoko a character and why she is this way, but we’ll have to wait
The little Red Ridding hood symbolism comes into play here she is the child that has grown to fear but bite back to keep the monsters away from others an herself an Es is also a child unsure of things but wants to find some sort of goal even if its not there an there both going to ruin
she cares but is so unable to stop an feel empty she uses such methods
i can't believe shes saying thid but she almost killed mahiru 😭😭😭 it was obvious her and fuuta felt bad and never meant for it to happen
Kotoko killed someone so she also must get hurt as well if this is her morality they killed someone and they get hurt from her so she also must get hurt i vote her unforgivable
Alllllright time to visit my TED talk! I believe Kotoko has a loving heart and she doesn't kill to end a life, but to pacify another. She definitely doesn't believe anyone should have advantages in life, which is what Harrow was pretty much about. Obviously, she doesn't understand moral grayness, but she could learn.
Why shouldn't we vote Kotoko guilty, then? After all, she's continuing to kill and avenge. So what's stopping us?
KEYWORD: AVENGE
I believe she represents a 'hero' she always needed/wanted as a kid. I'm sure her childhood was either quite problematic and traumatizing overall, or she suffered one major event that changed her mentality. Her goal became to be a real life Robin Hood, so to say. She didn't want to just steal from the rich for kicks and giggles, she did it for a purpose. She does not kill for an evil or psychopathic reason, but out of love. And it takes a lot of courage to stand up for a stranger, doesn't it? We see that in our world in crushing ways, and it's not good. We can only wish for more people like Kotoko who have the courage to stand up to the things they don't believe in and know are hurting the world. Murder obviously isn't the solution, but voting her guilty won't have her realize that's the case. The only thing that'll happen is that her passion for helping the weak and serving justice will take major blows. If she loses her morals and sees murder as the only solution, she'll leave Milgram more dangerous than she came in, virtually giving her nothing. She can't afford to have her ideals tested, they're the only thing keeping her from being a literal psychopath. Don't vote her guilty or she'll just become heartless. It's a very slippery slope.
My theory for this whole Kotoko-Es partnership is that after Trial 3, there's gonna be a Catching Fire-esque ending. The prisoners and Es will find a way to defeat Milgram and take down the system, which will result in major problems for the less mentally stable prisoners like Haruka or Mikoto. People like Yuno and Kazui will probably be fine- they're remorseful but not too dangerous (also Yuno shouldn't even be in Milgram!?!?). I don't think Milgram's going to hold up for that much longer, it's practically impossible. There's 10, possibly 11 high security prisoners who would become an unstoppable force altogether. Milgram's going down.
Why did Kotoko choose Es, though? Why not another prisoner to be her sidekick? Es isn't the stablest either, and they aren't very secure about their identity. I don't think Kotoko has determined if she sees Es as weak or strong, which is why she's refraining from judgement. Es (the audience, really) has abused their power in some ways. We've metavoted, voted based on who's hottest (that being said let's keep Mikoto safe folks), and on who we just straight up don't like. What we haven't all done is vote purely based on the deed and their guilt. Futa put up a nice little facade of toughness and anger while also showing that he felt bad, and look where that got us? He's been flipped inside out and we can't really get him back. STOP METAVOTING I'M BEGGING YALL. True judgement isn't based on how much the person is liked or disliked. Anyways, I believe Kotoko wants to be partners with Es because of their power. Es judges the entire prison, after all. If Es can be manipulated, so can we. At the core of this experiment, the goal is to find out how we follow our morals in relation to judgement and authority. If Kotoko is seen as authority, we're going to have to decide what to do. Whether or not we like Kotoko shouldn't determine the way we judge other prisoners. If we get any sort of bias, the trial is unfair. However, that's what's nice about having an entire fandom behind this thing.
Overall Kotoko, like Mikoto, is a good guy with bad plan execution. I'm pretty sure if there was another solution than killing, she'd take it.
Also y'all Kotoko is so pretty and cool what would we do without her and like look at Amane and Mahiru their whole look changed after being voted guilty we can't have that now can we
I will never forgive this fandom if you change her beyond recognition
Fake ahh Tatar Ramazan (basically murderer prisoner Robin Hood)
I understand where she is coming from and she has a point but her views are way too tunnel visioned and black and white. She concentrates on being rational and detached but if the entire world operates without even an ounce of compasion then there is no room in this world for forgiveness and second chances. Yes there are very despicable people who do unforgiveable things who dont change for the better or deserve to be locked away forever. But there are many real world examples of people who change for the better and people who commit crimes for a very morally gray reason. Not to mention a good amount of prisoners in milgram are undeserving of being in prison to begin with.
There are better ways to set people straight and i dont think i can agree with kotoko, yes justice is necessary but it's not when you become a hypocrite and stoop to their level.
I know her intentions aren't bad and she has a reason to do this but if she chooses to or doesnt even understand the one crucial thing and that is human emotions then i dont believe she deserves to be innocent this round.
What i like to always say is, to be completely rational like a robot as a human is to be irrational. Because thats when you drop all understanding of people and that is irrational in itself since at the end of the day, we are all human.
This is my take
God I love the way you said it in the latter section! I’m so going to be using that when discussing irl stuff as well. It’s such a relevant point and you put it into words beautifully
I think its worth pointing out that Kotoko's ethnicity isn't Japanese. In her first interrogation question she mentions that she can speak Mandarin and Korean asides from Japanese. Her place of birth is undisclosed, although a bit stereotypical, I can see her being Korean.
What does her ethnicity have to do with anything? In her first music video we can interpret her reason for vengeance for "those who oppress the weak" was originated from her own past experience as a possible SA victim as a child. We don't know if she was assaulted in Japan, Korea, or China, but we can infer that she has a hyperfixation on being the one to uphold "justice for the weak" because she probably didn't receive the justice she deserved from the law.
The law enforcers were probably incompetent or outright dismissed her case as a child, which explains her looking down on Es for being incompetent. Taking in consideration her family's ethnicity, she may have been blamed on why she was assaulted in the first place, she hated herself for being weak and unable to protect herself, she didn't want to be assaulted again so she presented herself less feminine and took up martial arts in elementary to make sure that she doesn't get assaulted ever again. She even took up law in university but eventually stopped.
"She concentrates on being rational and detached but if the entire world operates without even an ounce of compasion then there is no room in this world for forgiveness and second chances. Yes there are very despicable people who do unforgiveable things who dont change for the better or deserve to be locked away forever."
I like to believe that this statement of yours can also help explain why Kotoko is the way she is. For example lets say that she does forgive the person who assaulted her, she forgives the incompetent law enforcers, how does this serve as justice for the victims exactly? For me, Kotoko is logical and manipulative because she knows exactly that is the only way that she can survive.
Although these are just my speculations on her background and overall character. I do agree that her violence towards the other prisoners are a bit unwarranted and a bit irrational as this does not really solve her own issues at hand.
Kasumi look at me this isn't u 😭😭😭
shes so gonna get voted guilty 😭
does anyone know why the MV hasn't come out yet/when it's coming out?
its coming out in january! it got delayed due to animation issues i think
It might seem crazy what im about to say
LMFAOA FJE YIPPIE AT FJE END
Nodoby talking about how pitifully ES did in this interrogation…? They’ve always been logical and had their position clear when communicating with prisoners but HERE, HERE they didn’t even mention WHY what kotoko did was wrong AT ALL.
Indeed kotoko punished criminals and helped people but in milgram she just went assaulting people didn’t even knowing wtf they did, didn’t even think about it twice. Girlie you have to be conscious about your actions yk💀not to mention many prisoners do not deserve death and just what if ES’s judgement wasn’t even correct for you??? What if the guiltys had reasons just as YOU have your reasons to kill???
Those who fight monsters should see to it that in the process that they themselves don't become a monster is quote that best describes kotoko she is so obsessed with fighting evil that she doesn't realize that she is becoming no different than the monsters she fights
Im so mad I swear I want to scream so baddly and this is just the first 30 seconds, I dont care about her song nor her backstory nor everything else she may do i will vote everyday even with alts to make her unforgiven
5:09 YES YES YES *YESSSSSS*
I bet she feels the same about the people she attacks.
tbh i respect her desire to protect others but i feel its ultimately very misguided. the problem is she sees everything as black and white and all crimes as equally bad regardless of circumstance which is like. honestly a really narrow view of justice. shows she doesnt really have much empathy, not even towards the victims she wants so badly to defend, because her lack of understanding of degrees of severity and extenuating circumstances keeps her from getting why those she protects might not want her protection in the first place. she sees her viewpoint on things as objectively right and doesn't allow any leniency among the things she deems to be wrong. if she thought for herself for a change instead of simply weaponizing herself to fulfill her interpretation of others' desires, i think i would be a lot more inclined to forgive her. the issue with doing drastic things like this for other people is that you can never really understand what it is that other people actually want, and the fact that she gets frustrated at the "weaklings" she defends for not wanting to be saved by violence shows that she isn't actually motivated by her compassion for those who can't protect themselves but rather by her monochromatic sense of justice and need to be seen as "in the right" at all times. if she acted based on her own personal ethics i think i would understand where she's coming from a lot more, but in reality i think her "protecting the weak" is more of an act of selfishness than anything. her criticizing us/es for getting attached to the prisoners is also very indicative of her lack of empathy i think, because imo theres nothing wrong with making judgements from a place of understanding like that, if anything its a much more comprehensive way of seeing things than just basing your views off of objective textbook justice. idk maybe if her mv reveals a super tragic backstory where she was wronged by the justice system or smth ill decide to forgive her since then ill understand her motivations a lot more but like. for now im leaning guilty sorry kotoko my lightyagamicore girlqueen slayboss etc etc hashtag yass
I LOVE UOU KOTOKO❤❤❤❤
I think Kotoko made a mistake by not judging prisoners based on her own moral system. I agree with her, crimes should be punished. But you can't judge them according to some popularity contest, lol. Mikoto has 72% innocent vote. A serial killer said sorry and everyone forgave him, it's just stupid. But now she realized that. As she said, everybody wants justice and nobody wants to actually do it, or see it, or pay the price.
I don't support her "let's just beat up everyone". Punishment should fit the crime. There must be a reason why she was running around chasing a killer and not someone, idk, who crossed a road on a red light or something minor like that. Nonetheless, her judgment regarding the crime she actually committed was still correct, in my opinion.
Innocent. I forgive her.
I have so many reasons on why mikoto is innocent and i dont even know where to start-(he wasnt the serial killer)
@@EdgeLie"hHey, this guy has a serial-killer alter made of his darkest and more bloothirsty desire that he seems to ignore on purpose to get his dirty work done. Let's do nothing about it and vote him innocent!"
oh this is why people on twitter were talking about kotoko being a groomer huh
maam step the fuck back
Both mikoto and kazui were protecting fuuta?
Kazui the one who protecting Fuuta. While John/Orekoto fight back when Kotoko tried to attack Mikoto.
what she did is quite understandable. its like Light from Death Note, you can't really blame them. the only thing she did wrong here is to punish them right after the first trial. if she did this after the result of the third trial then maybe less people would complaint because the we didn't even know everyone's full story yet. whether they are guilty or not is not even certain yet.
i get where kotoko is coming from and honestly, i don't think she should have the guilty vote at all. she was voted innocent for her morals and when she used her morals in milgram, everyone now thinks shes guilty because, like she said, we have an attachment to the prisoners and so really, it's not her fault.
REAL SHIT ! finally someone gets it, shes just being rational
Yeeeeeah, you do have a point. It was already bad enough when Kotoko went after three prisoners, but the moment she said she was after Amane too, all hell broke loose and the Amane fans are ready to give her the guilty votes 😥
i agree
@@kikikaichanyeh amane fans will vote guilty to kotoko
I half agree. I do think the attachment to the prisoners does have a bit to do with why people dislike her now, but I think the real reason people voted her innocent in the first trial is because they thought that the child predator that Kotoko killed deserved it. In other words, they judged her victim instead of her herself. If she had killed a middle-schooler who didn’t fully know what they were doing like Futa did, or even someone like Amane (as Kotoko revealed she would have assaulted her), I think people would have realized how twisted her mission is. If anything, I think it was the reveal that she’s willing to attack anyone indiscriminately instead of just clear-cut evil people like the predator that caused people to dislike her.
shes so me
LE PEGO UN PALMASO KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i wanna hug es so bad
Hehe kaoru at the end 🥺
What even did i just watch
Milgram
Kotoko runs her mouth about bringing justice and whatnot but I see through her bullshit. She's the only prisoner who *enjoys* hurting others, whotakes pride inher sin. Her vigilante persona is just a way to justify herself, reaffirm her own ideals and position herself as superior to others. It's not altruism, she simply enjoys the violence but accepting it might put heron the same level as the villains she so despises. Can't have that right? I won't forgive her ever
'Promo SM'
hate her but she’s hot so yeah love her
I swear kotoko, Beat haruka's ass please please please
EHY WHAT DID HE DO
she already called him a worthless parasite. like please haruka is so innocent vote him inno trial 3
NAH LEAVE THAT POOR BOY ALONE HIS MENTAL HEALTH IS BAD ALREADY😨
Bro my bb haruka did nun😭😭
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