Twelve spoke aluminium rim star high-speed milled on DATRON M8Cube
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Originally created for a racing car developed by the FaSTDa student racing team. Autodesk Fusion 360 used to create a precise tool path. A special clamping fixture keeps the part in place and allows for precise milling of the details.
Thanks for sharing this. I am an old school tool maker (manual machinist), never used CNC but that was an impressive result, even more so for only 62 minutes total machining time. Very nice work!!
Thank you very much! We are very pleased that you like our result and pass on your positive feedback. Have a nice day, your DATRON team
It's amazing how they can make machines that are so precise.
Its all gearing a electronics. Mostly Servos/Steppers
Nice tool paths there...great machine and at the end great result.
Good work!!! We also have rich experience in sheet metal fab, we are a strong manufacturer in China, with high quality and competitive price.
Im getting goosebumps from that precision :d
How cool is that, amazing work guys, thanks a lot!!!
Thanks for showing how you held the part for the second op. Work holding can get complicated.
correct...just a bit.....this is hand home made ......the fixture.....but some companies provide smart clamping system!
Beautiful!
It's a piece of art
where was that high-speed milling?
3:55 when the machine sound syncs with the background music that's some real metal
3:46 what it looks like when machines rise up and mill your face off
Nice!. I love machine works!. Thank you for the video!.
Been on the Apps 25 year nice work 👍😊
Very nice machine and obviously a very competent programmer,
Thanks for posting
Not really.... It's a basic part any programmer should be able to do it. A good one would do it faster 😉
@@jchelm1979 faster no......its okay like that....3d fucking milling there fin and rough...a lot of time!
For showcasing this was well done and 60 min for the entire part (does that include setup?) Doesnt sound unreasonable. For a multiple piece order doing all the round stuff on the lathe would save a lot of time though.
All in all its an impressive machine for what it is. Always enjoy somebody else's approach in programming
Hello Mr. Peters. Sure, for mass production you would optimize a few steps. Anyhow this project was a combination of showcase and prototyping. 60 mins was only the machining time, 40 for first and 20 for 2nd and 3rd setup. Have a nice day, your DATRON team
It's so nice to watch the machine removing material. That fixture ist very smart and the result is impressive! A nice example for #MadeInGermany 😎👍
Excellent May be useful for student community to under stand the use of CNCs
Beautiful part & great solution.
I Love CNC Machines? because it's really cool!
朋友上來時給大家能知道，好東西南北部個位分享受用良多讚
I used to make fixturing like this but now I'm doing, YAWN, CNC lathe production. Yawn, just typing it makes me drowsy. I am liking these DATRON machines.
Nice Vid. The fixture plate for the second op is very nice! :)
Fun to watch, But I would not sign off on that process. Get one of your guys to make that manually. That would be something I'd come back for.
Very cool looking part. Nicely done.
Nice modifications by Datron
Cool a new fast forward machining centre
10 points from BAE.......for example! PERFECT!...We made the second op in the clamping system ...chuck....3 points slots fixed ...no issue!
Excelente trabajo, 👍👍sería muy bueno poder ver el código G de esta pieza,para los que estamos aprendiendo sería muy didáctico, gracias por enseñar.
Perfect
Like the Datron salesman told me, "Not for mass production". They wear out to quick.
We use some Datrons for large batches of different aluminum components. They work very reliable for years now. Of course they are not made for heavy milling but with high spindle RPM, figh feeds and HSC strategies we get very good cycle times.
Love the M8
Speaking as someone who races cars for a hobby and recently acquired a small CNC mill to manufacture more parts, I just WANT one of those - and 4 of the wheels!
It's a work of art! Beautiful!
perfect finishing.done a good job.
Run op1 and op2 in the cnc lathe to get blanks , then cut pockets and holes in the cnc mill, 42 minutes total run time !
They probably don't have a cnc lathe?
during drilling, the camera on the tool head makes it look like the part is shaking, when the camera is of the machine, the tool head looks like its shaking. (shaking > circulatory mov. to produce a large diam. whole with a small diam. tool)
Amazing to watch
Really enjoyed this video! Do you think using a 4th axis would improve machining time for something like this?
5 axis..... :))))))))))))))))))))...wtf is that.......simple 3x
I adore the overkill shown here, but only because I'm not paying for it.
The material and tooling probably cost about $65 USD. Machine, not as cheap lol.
65 dollars for mats and tooling ? :D ? :D i dont know the price in america ofc :D
Hello, I’m using Fusion360 at work, and I would like to know what process you use when you realize the extern finishing path for the first operation. Tks
das 3D-Entgraten ist cool
cool,I love it!
Watching the gear teeth get milled out suddenly reminded me of Bishop's combat knife scene at the start of Aliens
A real race car.....
The machining was great! But why not use a lathe with a Y axis to make the part complete? I’m sure it would cut runtime in half and make a more concentric part, which for a race car rim seems to be the most important part. Not bashing, maybe you have an excellent reason for running it on a mill, I was just curious:)
Hello, thank you for your interested inquiry. The question is quite simple to answer: We do not build lathes and therefore have no lathes with Y-axis :-) That's why the rim star is manufactured on our milling machine. Best regards, your DATRON team.
Thanks for the Video - would love to see more Vids with commentary on your Channel 👍🏻
Fusion 360 gives "dynamic and efficient toolpaths"?? I must be using the wrong version.
😂😂😂😂
I know the same problem with Esprit CAD/CAM. There are so many possibilities and options that you're happy if it simply works. Ultimately you just let it run instead of trying around two hours to get a smoother tool path.
@@maxholler1182 You use Esprit?
Yes and also the toolpaths are getting better. ;)
It's a Formula Student project, so they probably used Fusion360 because it's free.
cool video, thanks for sharing
I love Datron CNC. I have a small CNC mill for hobby purpose and by looking at this video I see most of the toolpaths are moving in conventional milling. Ok for facing operation, but I see 2D contour and others not in climb milling. Is there a reason for that? Since I believe they master these knowledges. Thx
yws...its normal.....using zig zag .....no need one direction....
Bravo!
تسلمون وعاشت الايادي ونشكركم على النشر
expert moves
I am missing the "efficient toolpaths" here
Did you see how many air passes he did on the spokes...lol
How did you program this part? at the machine controller(what type) are offline, what software? Good job and it works great. I am surprised about the dry cutting, but I would prefer to have dry. I just thought maybe clogging up on the end mill would be an issue? I guess not. Thanks for sharing.
man, you should learn how to read the description...
fusion 365 :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) in video you have it:)))))))
They have some very interesting machines, but easily the most rude sales representatives I have ever contacted.
Hello Mr Rogers, we are very sorry that you were not satisfied with the service. We hope the next experience you'll have with our representatives will be better. Have a nice Christmas time! Your DATRON team
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Nice glitter, thank you author
15:09 *pop* noice
Fusion! nice to see the fillet tool actually fillet stuff haha
It seems a lathe with live tooling would be quicker and more productive.
Nice
Really looking good and smooth
To slow friend
Try to use 12 or 16 end mill with 4 flutes for aluminium and making the rough in just 2 steps around and making the hss from inside to out then no need to lot of steps of prapering the surface take end mill with radius 0.5 for that you will save about 20 minutes
Your programming looks really nice the autodesk looks nice nc program
And why not drilling and reaming
For a mass production the end mill can make problems not like carbide reamer straight flutes
it is not a big VMC, have you seen the toolholders? they are as big as a 16mm endmill
Art.
Just curious. What could be the full cost(material and process), I am just curious. It has not to be precise.
I would love it one day if you would explain the use of ethanol as coolant, only aluminum etc? special venting needed? it does evaporate but it still is a ethanol just in vapor form and seems that the only filters in room might be the lungs?
Shotgun Reloader you get a great surface finish on aluminum with it. If you don't have your head in the enclosure it's probably fine. I mean unless your just intentionally huffing it. Toxicity according to the internets is 600mg/kg he probably weights 60 or 70 kilos, I would think it would take a whole lot of exposure to have any effect at all.
I've run one of these, you can only really smell it if you're face is right up against the enclosure. Otherwise it's fine. Wait a minute or 2 before opening up for the ethanol to evaporate and you won't even be able to smell it once the door is open. Plus it keeps the chips and part dry so it's just an airgun blast to clean the table down.
I do appreciate the reply, I tried it last night and the stuff is fantastic on aluminum. I came to conclusion that the alcohol vapor is not carcinogenic and in the small vol used not an issue for me. The dry parts are a welcome development. Regards.
Youre babying the cutter it can take bigger stepovers
Magestic!
it might just be me but it seems the machine is a bit shaky is that just the camera mount if not i cant imagine that part is down to the thousandth accurate
Roughing and finishing the bowl shape on a lathe would cut the cycle time in half.
Is it wrong that I have a woody right now? Damn I want that CNC!
i dont know. its aluminum. seems like babycuts
For the rpm the bits are spinning at.. and the fact that it's aluminum.. you are right especially when hogging off excess material
We were considering a Datron a while back for our shop. Question; is that the maximum depth of cut? Seems very shallow.
Awesome.
Im curious what this part retails for after all that work.
Hallo könnt ihr bitte erklären wir ihr mit Fusion 360 CAM die 3D Phase erstellt?
what type of cooling did he use pressurized air + oil/ alcohol?
Hello, you're right, it uses air + alcohol (ethanol). Best regards, your DATRON team
genious fisics
RUclips Admin wanted this machine for Silver Plate and give back to your channel..
Please no music!
What are the specs on that granite table? What's the wear like? Can you lap it when you wear a belly in it, if so must you tram it to the spindle? Not sure in that.
On the 1 setup. First of need do all inside surface, after - outside. When you do rough, do 15 mm ap, 5 mm ae for 12mm diameter end mill. Students!
i don't know i don't have years of practise in machining but wouldn't it be faster on 3or5-axis lathe with mill it would take same as here two clamping but second would be mainly for finishes and it should have probably better surface quality
Hello Mr. Haintl, in small series, our customer does not have to buy a lathe, because it works without it :) If the number goes into the 1000s, then a lathe makes sense. Best regards, your DATRON team
very good
Everything goes fine until nearby end of second operation, when you completely unnecessary machine once again central hole of the sprocket and lose its concentric relation to step on the outer diameters which were created on the first operation. Thumb up anyway ;)
this is only for record...beta version...example....he just wanted to show us......
why no lead in/lead out on your champers just out of curiosity?
Чрезвычайно дорогая деталь. Непрактично, но очень красиво. Технофетишь и только.
Amazing...
What is the total processing time?
1h and 20 min
Sir can I get this part model
Actually I am A student & I want to Design tool path by my self for better understanding
That's an FSAE wheel center if ive ever seen one haha
Nice
10/10 to the computer programmers.
Next time no music during the machining processes please.
What is the approximate list price of this Datron M8Cube machine?
I see a bunch of videos on RUclips machining aluminium without coolant. Is that the standard way to do it?
Hello, we definitely use a cooling system :-) We use ethanol in the form of a minimum quantity cooling system, to be seen at minute 06:18. Have a nice day, your DATRON team
Hello ,do you know what kind of Aluminium this is?Thanks.
Any chance you'd be willing to share the Fusion 360 file for this?
Nope ?
Could I ask,
1) What camera have you used to film?
2) What (if any) lights you have used?
3) What mounts you used to hold the camera during filming?
Hello, we are happy to answer your questions. For this video, the Panasonic LX100 was used with a standard tripod. The lighting was provided by a 5500K LED ceiling light and 2 5500K LED lights. Have a nice day, your DATRON team.
Thank you for the reply! Great film!
AMAZING
Perfeita!!
На первой установке. Нужно было вначале выбрать все внутренние поверхности, а потом делать наружную черновую обработку. И не по 0.5, а по 15 мм по глубине ар и по 5 мм по ширине ае. Это если взять фрезу ф12 мм. Студенты, блин!