My $500 Porsche 944 BLEW UP *Here's What Happened*
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- I took the $500 1987 Porsche 944 out for a rip and to make a video with @Velocity Garage ... then it started to overheat. So I trailed it back to the house and parked it outside so it could think about what it did wrong. Now that it's been a few months it's time to sort this car out again. I have an idea of what went wrong, but instead of just fixing that, we're going deep and changing basically all the common failure parts on the car. Unfortunately, it's literally days of work if you don't pull the engine.
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Pro tip: oil in your coolant is almost always an oil to water cooler failure. Oil pressure is 40+, coolant pressure is 15.
Coolant in your oil is usually a head gasket, as coolant is pushed by combustion pressure (130+) into the oil system.
Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.😉
Great tip.
Absolutely! Head gaskets aren’t a big deal in the 944s.
make sens! thx for the tip
@@dkheger Really? How so? I wanna get a 944 as my first non American project
The Porsche's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
I had a 1999 Saturn that had the radiator milkshake but no one came out to the yard except the one person who bought it since I was not going to fix it. Ha.
And there like you blown a head gasket I can fix it for you but I have to charge
The junkyard.
Yo Is that cool crab?
To the garage lol
thank you seriously for talking me out of buying a 944- i have been looking for about 3 months and this video cured me!!
Working on Reviving older cars, modernizing, and making them drivable. Great Job!!!!!
Remove radiator cap. Lay a piece of saran wrap across the filler neck. Push a shallow depression in the saran wrap. Seal the saran wrap in place with a rubber band. Squeeze the upper radiator hose to verify the depression pops up and goes back down. Start or crank cold engine for 15 seconds. If the saran wrap depression is popped up. You have a compression/combustion leak into the cooling system.. blown head gasket or cracked combustion chamber.
I love every single second of this video, in fact I'll watch it twice I'm sure. Great stuff, I had 2 of them and that explains why I like this video so much. I only got about 30 miles out of my red '84 with Fuchs rims, timing belt broke from an unknown oil leak inside the timing cover which had weakened the belt. Guy who disassembled it thought maybe the balance shaft belt shredded and took the timing belt out. It was just like a complete loss of power at 1500 rpms and it hurt me deeply once I found out what it was 😬😆
My mechanic friend who I took it to had a buddy who heard about my plight and sold me a Silver '84 944 with low miles and garage storage for $1000. It had sat 10 years. First thing I did was timing and balance belts, new gas with Cyclo gas treatment, oil change...she fired right up and I had 75,000 miles of the most fun possible, it wasn't bad. Only had a thermostat go out and a muffler the entire time. Excellent content, look forward to these.
Doing a great job there dude. Working on older cars - despite the tricky exhaust manifold - is so much nicer and satisfying
watching you work on this engine literally killed any desire I ever had for owning a 944.
Weird. My desire is just rising. It doesn't look all that bad to work on.
Pop-pop-pop'en-up-headlights!!!!!
They never get old 🔥
@@WatchJRGo So, poppin' fresh!
Popup head light are tassel on woman's breast to JR
When you hear the 80's synthesizer, shit is about to get serious.
These videos, rather than teaching me and inspiring me to do work myself, make me feel much better about the exorbitant prices that mechanics in my area seem to get. Everything looks so damn HARD! 😊👍👍
"At the whole [Tontinos] pizza and it was delicious". This is why I love this channel, don't ever change!! JR can solve the most complex of automotive issues and is rewarded with a frozen pizza for his efforts!!
Good luck with your car! I used to change the oil in my 1972 MGB, back in the day. I wish I knew how to work on cars! When I win the lottery I will get MGB, Opel GT, Datsun 240 Z, Porsche 928, 911 Porsche Targa, Mercedes 580 SL, 1966 Corvette, and a Jaguar XK-E, I love all of the older cars!
Don't overcomplicate this job. As others have said, it is most likely the oil cooler. Pulling the head is going to lead to a bunch of broken plastic things on the back of the motor. Spend your time+money doing the motor mounts and replacing vacuum lines.
For the exhaust studs, there is a GM part you can use to replace them with e-torx making the job a million times easier next time.
Its also worth mentioning that if you haven't already, replace the fuel lines going to the rail. It was a factory recall in the 80s, and its probably time to replace what the dealer did back then. Check out larts' parts on ebay for the best hose kit.
I so much enjoy watching you do what I am no longer able to do myself due to physical limitations. Keep up the good work.
I don’t know why, but this is one of my favorite cars you work on. This, your grandpa’s truck and the Camaro.
There is a pointer in that window in the bell housing., on the flywheel there is a line all the way across the surface, THAT ! Is your TDC. mark , not the o !! Wait till the head is off before messing with the cooler !!!! Much easier 😄😄😄😄😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺
Glad to see the 944 again. Cars get jealous if you don’t show them some love.
I used to eat those Torino’s pizzas in college. Microwave it and roll it up like a burrito! 😂
I recall your Camaro is darker than the WatchJRGo diecast one. Congratulations by the way. You deserve some recognition. Best car channel on RUclips. You should have bought a few of them.
JR, please be careful when working under the vehicle on just the Quickjack's lifts. As it suggests in the operator instructions for all modes of the Quickjack lift's "Do not work under an elevated Vehicle unless properly rated Vehicle Jack Stands are used and
placed under the factory-approved Lifting Points".
Remember safety first.
And thanks for all the really great videos.
It died of jealousy because you bought the drift car Z.
Once you get that 944 fixed, you should take it to Rennsport Dragon Rally in NC. They have events in June and October. I was there a couple weeks ago -- it's such a blast! So much Porsche!
This seems like incredibly difficult home mechanic work, props to JR, I would never have the patience.
Definitely oil cooler. Both internal and external seals have failed. That is where a lot of your oil leak is coming from. Your motor mounts are also shot. That's why you had a hard time removing the manifolds. Easiest way to change all of that is from above. Use an engine support bar or a board the size of the oil pan and floor jack. Remove the water tube by the headers, then unbolt the exhaust. 17MM ratchet wrench will slip between the control arm bushing to release the lower motor mount nut. With engine supported, unbolt the entire motor mount brace and remove everything at once. Drop the new motor mount into the cross brace, then install the support onto the mount. Bolt it all back up and done. Remove oil cooler while headers are still out, clean it all up, reseal and reassemble with alignment tool. Make sure to flush the system really well with cleaner to get all the oil out. Driver side motor mount is even easier from above. Just remove the air box while the engine is still suported, unbolt the entire motor mount assembly and replace just the same as passenger side. More room over there. These cars are incredibly fun to drive and not very hard to work on and maintain.
Welcome to the awesomeness of 944 ownership. Just when you think is fixed something else goes wrong. 😎
That's how my 1972 MGB was! I had it 4 years, never got around to putting a radio in it, cause something else always need fixed!
Yeah, I had same problem and it was the oil/water exchanger o rings as other have said. I managed to remove and refit mine without taking headers off on a 924S but it was tight.
It will always be the “$500 944 Porsche” in our hearts, but to John Ross it is fast becoming the “Pain in the Butt $5,000 944.”
I bought mine for $340 without and engine. I’m already 3k in 😂😂😂
why is every 944 in the us trash in german they are the most time in much better condition
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As they get older they get cheaper and a lot of maintenance gets deferred because the people who bought them cheap did not have the money to maintain them. So they just spiral down into a state of disrepair that they are just trash. It happens to a lot of older cars that were very expensive when new and the same cycle. The cost of parts is a big factor.
@@JackBWatkins i know but i ask myself why a 90 percent of them ine germany are in good condition and un the us the most off them are Trash Sure in the us a 944 is around 1000$ and in german the cheapest 944 are around 10000
Thank God for a Watch JR Go video. I woke up at 2 o'clock this morning and couldn't fall back to sleep. Better than any early morning TV!
Failure of the oil cooler seals is very common in these cars as they age. Mine failed, oil pressure pushed lots of coolant out, engine overheated, and warped cam cover. Coolant milkshake was present.
Non-Porsche mechanic here, just an 85 944 owner/enthusiast...another source of that glorious sludge comes from the power steering reservoir located high and proud and in the way. It's about $22 from FCP Euro but it has a built in filter, is easy to swap and bleed out and will eliminate at least one source of the schmutz caking up on the underbelly of the 944. Also I'll be the next fella to remind you that thermostat replacement is engineered by Satan's helpers but phosphate free coolant is the send off on this journey. Cheers!
i have an 87 also, the exhaust comes off easy and the studs can stay, 100% the oil cooler seals. i cant remember but i think i dropped the entire exhaust off the car and took the manifolds out the bottom. and most of that oil leak if not all of it is from the cam tower seal, not a terrible job to do, just tedious.
Of all the things that John Ross has taught me, the most valuable thing would be to NEVER buy a 30 year Porsche that's been living out it's days in a field in Kansas.
The only channel I watch were a Porsche engine rebuild is just an unexpected chore and no bother. And you know it will get done.
Yes , he's right, the coolant into the oil problem, bad design flaw, I had 2 944s that I needed to fix, but the 85.5 Porsche had said they fixed the issue..I can work on any 944 from 82-85, and 911 83-89 air-cooled engines, but I've never heard of this problem in an 85.5 engine.
Thank God! Finally someone who knows how to properly pronounce Porsche.Old Germanic name people, two syllables please.
Lovely to see the old girl getting attention. With all you are doing, she will be back in fighting trim very soon. Do love driving these cars. They are great fun.
Oh, 944 injectors get sticky if the car sits around. Just get an early-style Bosch injector connector at O'Reilly's and grab a 9V battery, then just cycle the sticky injector using the battery. No need to replace the injector for that issue.
Oil cooler is easier from the bottom and I have a head gasket sharing compression between cylinders 2&3 but it’s done it for 20 years. Keep moving forward, this project is on my to do list!
I love this car, nice find and rescue. Looking forward to seeing the engine all cleaned up.
I am finishing up this exact same job on my 944, I won't spoil the fun you still have to go through on this!
This thing can't die before I can drive it. Come onnnn Porsche, you got this.
I drove my MGB 150 miles today, and she left me hanging at 4 stop lights lol. Fun times bro!!
Nothing is more expensive than a cheap (insert snobby Eurobrand here). :)
@Kristoff Gerhardt I couldn't agree more!
@Kristoff Gerhardt Yah. That's why I bought a Mercedes E wagon after a 40+ year long run of Citroens, Peugeots and Renaults. Really insightful comment there, Sparky. You sure put me in my place. Say, by the way, you wouldn't happen to know of a GS 1220 wagon for sale? Preferably in Orange Tenerif. I'll also consider a GSA.
Who expects 2020 Toyota Camry reliability from a 30 year old sports car?
I don't care what anyone thinks -- pop-up headlights are the best. I just love them.
First up with 1 view. Cant wait for the next step in the 944 Saga! Keep up the awesome work JR!!
Bringing it back, need to be able to drive it 💯
2:36 Every Shitbox owners life in the morning when heading to work. Lol 😂
Girlfriend went to sleep now time to watch JRGO peacefully 👌🏽
Lmao i saw this pop up and started rushing my wife to bed!!
Car porn
That is a sobering amount of time and effort to spend on a 33 year-old, high mileage 944 with an automatic transmission. Not many people would bother on a car that is not particularly valuable or rare. But it is fun to watch!
Love the 80ties synth music 👍🏾
Excellent video. You make everything look easy. Your skillset is extremely high and you are doing what you love. Always like your videos.
While you have the intake off, replace the speed and reference sensors. 200x easier and a good no-start preventative if you haven't already.
Love this channel it just keeps getting better and better been seeing it for a couple years now and it's sick! Can't wait for the next episode.
Love your channel and love seeing the 944. I actually found your channel while searching for 944 videos.
My 2013 Camaro 1LT has a broken dual mass flywheel. Made me think of the timing job in yours. I'm dropping the trans this weekend to replace the flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, rear main seal, and slave cylinder. I thought about upgrading the clutch and flywheel, but this is my daily and I know I shouldn't.
Sounds like the 1987 nightmare I once owned, Porsche rebuilt that engine 2 times, after 2nd rebuild went directly to auction, your problem may never go away, but another engine. Now we know why it went to die out in that field.
What i have found working on my 944.. if something seems too difficult, you're doing it wrong or in the wrong order. Removing components may be a lot of work but not too difficult if done in the right order..
Good save on the overheating, too bad you have to do in chassis rebuild. Should be a great runner when it done.
My 944 had a severely warped head. PO put a new head gasket in it and it didn't help. Ended up having the block decked and bought a re-maned head for it and installed new ARP pre streched head studs.
i just subbed the other day and started watching this series, glad to see that you're still updating your viewers on this car!
I had an 86.5 witha 5spd- same color, put a ton of work into it. Over 400k miles on the car when I bought it. Miss it so much.
Also, Porsche's don't leak oil, they mark their territory.
Lifes too short for high maintenance vehicles! You guys that love them are welcome to them all. You never can get those hours back. Id rather be driving and enjoying my car ,rather than be constantly working on it!
JR has knocked the Wizard off my watch list
You need to get a throttle response cam. Dead popular back in the 80’s as a 944 upgrade.
Still in the middle of video, from memory these have a weird oil & water cooling system that can mix them when the gasket on the pump fails . . . Hope it's that and not the head gasket . . .will wait and see . . . All the fun JR . . . I think it's Camaro time !! . . . Cheers heaps for keeping us entertained !!
Dang man that thing was clean as hell too
It's great to see the Porsche again, but this isn't the way I had imagined it. You must have infinite patients. After all that work and . . . oil milkshake . . . Grrrrrr! You really like this car. Look on the bright side at least you were close to home. Thanks.
FYI, three of the intake gaskets go one way and then one has to go upside down. Pull the head with the exhaust manifolds and reinstall with the manifolds. Good luck, they are great cars. I have owned a turbo for eighteen years, they truly are wonderful.
Electric motor swap for the Porsche would be different and fun
Great video. I have a 968... I probably pull the engine for that set up
Updated Porsche engine from the junk yard it’s cool looking it’s a keeper
Honestly I should've done an engine, it would've been finished already. 1 day job instead of 3 😬
I agree with others, tackle the oil cooler first and see if that fixes it. If not then do head gasket.
It’s like the heavens are telling you to LS swap it.
I was just thinking... "I could put a better engine in this." 😂
@@WatchJRGo Okay since the idea has already seeded in your head I’m going to attempt an argument to persuade you.
1. It will make for great content + views
2. It is a fairly common swap with forums everywhere detailing the process.
3. It will most likely significantly drive up the value of the car.
4. LS engines are actually lighter than the factory 4 cylinder porsche engine.
5. You’ll have an insanely and effortlessly fast car on an extremely fun and balanced chassis.
6. It will be a newer and significantly more reliable engine that is easy to work on.
7. I’m literally begging you to do it.
And you already are setup for a automatic so if you do it you can use whatever gm trans works and just make it fit and work with the linkage setup it has.
Then you can take 3 cars to LS Fest
ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS PUT A V6 IN THERE AND A SMALL ONE AT THAT... WAY TO SMALL FOR ANY TYPE OF V8
Hmmm Totinos...delicious?
Well, at least you have better taste when it comes to cars.. mostly...
Thanks JR, enjoy the videos.
This car sounds more and more like it wants an LFX swap. I think it would make for a major reduction in reliability issues and cost down the road with little if any weight penalty. You are already familiar with the torque and hp output of the LFX. It would make it an even more fun to drive car.
I'm gonna guess both the head gasket and oil cooler are leaking. It started out as just the head gasket, but the added pressure to the coolant system due to the combustion gases...blew the oil cooler seals. Necessary maintenance on these at this age. While you are at it, reseal the balance shaft cover on that side, as the o-ring on that will leak due to shrinkage. It will take about 5 flushes to get it clean, then reward yourself with a new coolant tank, that will crack eventually based on the color and looks of it.
When a head gasket job is nothing for watchjrgo. Such skill. Kudos to you man.
I enjoy your channel but would second TheMrSnyder's comments. Some basic diagnostics of a head gasket (or not) would save you LOTS of time. Oil cooler would be the first thing, particularly as you don't have a mud pit in your sump. I recall seeing the 944 timing belt tensioning tool - you need it to do the job correctly.
Neighbors outta love this guy 😂
Glad to see the Porsche again 👍
I did the timing belt on mine twice because I was missing a bolt. Based on the urging of a coworker I pulled the camshaft assembly back off and and the missing bolt was inside.
The only way to fix those Porsche 944s is to put a high performance GM LS or LT V8 with the GM adapter kit. Trust me you'll love it!
You know what car I didn’t miss? the 944
You know what car I do miss? Rolls Smoke!
Don’t tell me it’s just going to sit in your driveway forever!
Diagnose??? When you saw the milkshake, you knew it was over.
If I could help Watch JR Goes work on the Porsche 944 I would drink the cold Bartle Skeets and roll up the fat Woolford and get all schmoked up.
It's funny JR how everyone encourages and urges you to do this and do that, but few suggest you restore this car to what it could be if properly restored to mint condition. One day these will become very rare and could be worth a load of $s. Here in the UK for a really nice tidy example you will pay between 8k and 23k £sterling. Worth a thought. My mate has one he has had from new and he just sold it for way over £20k with lunar miles on it!!!
Stay safe
Cheers, Bob
Nice late 1980s music...Nice touch.
Replace the oil filter with one from K&N. It has a one inch nut on the top making removal with a socket easy. My 968 uses part number HP-4001, yours should as well. K&N HP-4001 Performance Gold Oil Filter Fits 83-95 Porsche 911/924/944/968
Supercar repair bills minus the supercar! 😂
I don’t know if you’ve replaced the little fuel line from the fuel pressure dampener (at the front of the fuel rail) to the fuel rail. These are notorious for cracking due to age and spraying fuel right on the headers. It’s a cheap part, replace it! If the old one is hard it’s about ready to break.
JR gets after it. Love it!
Wouldn't you do a cylinder leakdown test to check the headgasket?
Or check for combustion gas in the coolant.
Sure, for a sane man. JR's doing it just cuz! 😁
Sounds like you’re getting into the territory I have with my Alfa spider.....no such thing as a cheap Alfa....
The only choice Is whether you pay upfront for a “ good one “ or buy a snotter and fix it.
Cost is the same , latter way though you know it’s right and you get to tinker !
Cars generally get long term parked for a reason !
Fingers crossed for a straightforward fix !
Used shout to clean the oil out of the coolant system. It’s worked for years working Porsche and VW dubs with ruptured oil coolers
Lol! I hit the panic alarm on my Mustang key all the time when I'm working on stuff! Must be a Ford thing. Great job working on that sweet Porsche. Love that car.
I did it in the parking lot of my insurance company when I was getting insurance on my new to me 06 Charger RT with 90k. Gal walking up to her car jumped and I said sorry I must have hit a button and she laughed and said it's alright, she does it all the time.
Maybe it's not just a Ford thing and Mopar wants in on the action too.
Remember to check the oil cooler if it's with a water heat exchanger. They tend to rot and mix oil and coolant.
You MUST get rid of the automatic gearbox!
i know how you feel just helped a guy i worked with with his 944 we sent out the head for a pressure test and a port and polish. the head was fine didnt need to be milled. the port and polish did help wake it up a little but it needed new valve guides because it did a puff of blue smoke when it started. after we got it back together it runs like a dream like it did before. we did put on the same static clutch on it when the head was out in the machine shop. we did do the front and back rear main and the oil pan gasket while we were there. it is one of the few cars people dig at the cars and coffie down here. just because it is also a barn find. the driver seat does need attention from a place that can redo the matterial do to florida dry rot the dash we ended up getting from a rear ended one. but the seats were taken unfortunitly but i know how you feel on noooo it is doing this. but the bright side it does now have new ac and heater core inside the car while the dash was out. as a new radiator we stuck a camera in them dear go how curoded they were
Love watching you work on a job like that. It give me confidence to do more on my own car. Front shocks and bushes in a few weeks.
Where do you store everything when you strip an engine down like that?
You know she was going to start with that FRESH keychain on board.