WE TAKE A BIG GAMBLE BUYING THIS AWESOME PORSCHE 911 GT3
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2023
- We take a big gamble and buy a ex Boyzone Shane Lynch motorsport Porsche 911 GT3 that has some faults !
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Don't listen to the haters, it's better than the porsche I haven't got and they haven't got either.
It’s only a car and if we all liked the same stuff life would be pretty boring. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I wouldn’t get offended it is what it is 👍
@@sruk ...exactly , I said I wouldn't have gone near it but you guys have a wealth of knowledge and skills that I lack so obviously in a better postiion to make a judgement call.
Good luck 👍
All cars are interesting and cool to me. This one is in no way an exception. Great work guys.
@@srukoff topic slightly but where did you get the RUclips show plates made up matey? I had a set but i could only get the RUclips logo in black and not red.
Hi Rob & Chris. This looks like a 996 tiptronic which has had a 997 gt3 conversion. Careful what you spend on it as modified 996 sometimes Ho for less than original ones even though it looks great! We had flashing transmission dash lights along with erratic gear changes. If this what is happening to yours the fix was a new multi plug which controls gear selection. It’s plug and play on the drivers side of the gearbox. Only option I could find was from Porsche but not too bad at about £250. Thank you for all your vids. Much appreciated.
Ignore all negative comments, (mostly from people who have never lifted a spanner) it makes interesting content. Good luck guys.
Coming from someone who works on these everyday… I Would definitely bore scope bank 2, cylinders 4,5,6 and check for scoring on the cylinders. 👍
I'd take off the spoiler and stickers and fit the original bumpers. It's no GT3.
Looks like it's crashed backwards into Halfords.
As you said it is not a GT3, it is a 996 with and aftermarlet body kit to make it look like a 997. The 996 was not well received whereas the 997 has icon status so its made it look better than a tired 996. Its not really GT3 replica as its has rear wing vents which are Turbo/GT2 items and the rear bumber has twin tailpipes GT3 has twin pipes in the centre and rear bumper has lower vents the GT3 does not have. It does have 997 Gen2 look rear lights which was a costly conversion. The front and rear bumpers are not replicas of GT3 they are their own look for the body kit this guy made, and the rear wing is not a 997 GT3 rear wing its more like the 997 GT3 RS. So its a bit of a parts bin 911 with aftermarket body kit but its still a 911 and that makes it worthwhile. The electics of a 996 to 997 light conversion was not a simple plug-and-play task, so be wise to look over all of its electrics.
997 turbos go for £100,000 to £200,000 as its had the rear wing turbo vents done, you could get a 997 turbo front and rear bumper boot lid and sell it for more as a 997 turbo replica than a GT3 replica. And sell those parts it has now to another 911 enthusiast. Great project to follow either way.
Salvage rebuilds new lemon… just needs pancake and sugar 🤣
Ask Porsche UK to investigate the VIN to get the original build spec, restore it back to a 911 GTS, its only a GT3 replica, its a bit like an mk4 Escort Eclipse done up to look like an XR3i at the minute. All Shane Lynch Motorsport ever did were bodykits and wheels on cars very little else, rarely touched anything mechanical.
I’d put that back to original spec and get rid of the chavvy spoiler etc
Agree 💯 %
It’s a 996 dressed up as a later 997. It would have come out of the factory with the ‘fried egg’ headlights so I’m guessing it’s had 997 wings fitted to accommodate the 997 lights. I’m pretty sure that the rear lights are 997 too. As a Porsche owner I can tell you that downsides for resale of this generation are the Tiptronic gearbox & the IMS (intermediate shaft) bearing, most buyers will want to be assured that this has been upgraded as a complete failure could result in a £10k engine rebuild. The later 997.2 resolved these issues so sell for much higher prices.
Yeah it look weird doesn’t it.
Looks like you have a 996 which has been made to look like a 997. They will have changed a lot of body work including new front wings, bonnet, front and rear lights, door mirrors, front and rear bumpers etc. You would be wise to check if these parts are genuine Porsche parts or cheap fibreglass / plastic copies!
It won’t make any difference to us bud 👍
A completely different vehicle for you guys. If it were mine, I’d de-chav it, get rid of the stickers, and picnic table rear spoiler, get some Porsche alloys on it and clean it up…IMHO…can’t wait to see what your plans are and of course when you crunch the numbers 👍
See comment below!! (Paul Lewis), i couldn't of said it better myself! Being a car guy (Rob), and a Lambo owner you really surprised me with your comments on this project, its not really anything..... Just the kind of motor a young chav with cash would lash up. 'Trying to be a GT3' has got to make it worth less than the base car it started from....... and remember its just a torque converter box - with a manual over ride for shift, so the worse option they did..... Its a box of issues... possibly expensive..... and the list will grow im sure as you get further into it. The chap who moved it on probably had good reason......... Without good history, old 911s are a nightmare....
After the massive kick in the goolies you boys got from the range rover, i thought your next project would be a simple berlingo van. Couldn't have been more wrong could i?
I can see Chris part exing his lawn mower for the Porsche. When i saw the thumbnail, i was in such a rush to get my headphones on, i poked myself in the eye.
Surely this wasnt loads of money. Its a pre facelift 3.4 996 with updated GT3 kit on it?
How interesting. Looks well in white. I’ve often wondered just how practical and economical these cars are for a “normal” person to own and run. Good luck with this one lads. Looking forward to seeing how it works out. Who knows the new owner could be watching this and not knowing that’s the case. As always a BIG fat 👍 from me. ✌️🇬🇧
Sorry boys that’s one to shift on, it’s all of £10k’s worth and being a 3.4 Tip it’s as bad as it’s gets.
A shame, was looking forward to a GT3 build but it’s nota GT3, just a 996 tiptronic with an aftermarket 997 body kit on it 😢
Not for me, neither fish nor foul. First thing I would check is for moisture on the near side under the carpet, there is an ecu/ alarm module under the seat and moisture plays havoc. Good luck with it, all the best Nick
It needs a new battery. The alarm will go off with a low battery. It'll take care of a few of the other electrical gremlins too. Scan it and clear the codes after replacing the battery.
Hmmm, 996 PDK with 997 front end, mismatched tyres, dodgy graphics and nearly 100k miles which has been standing for 6 years. Hope you didn’t pay too much 🙂 get some decent wheels and tyres, replace GT3 graphic with Carrera graphic, remove spoiler and just have the ducktail. Tidy up inside and it will look miles better.
Lovely kit and graphics looking awesome guys
Not a PDK anyway - old school Tiptronic.
Hope you have checked for borescore!
Totally agree! come out a collection with bashes up wheels 😕 been looked after then!! 😮
@@TJC156 oops sorry you’re right 🙂
Bought one of these off Shane lynch few years ago the fiber glass body kit on them is cheap and it cracks easily ... rear lights get water in them and build up of condensation as the engine is in the back . The front lights weren't wired in properly and didn't work right not to mention everything rattled and squeeked . Would never buy a conversion ever again .
You're right, Shane Lynch is an absolute weapon 🤣
This is what i like abouts this channel... never know what, motor Rob & Chris will find? & then you learn on repairing the vehicle... top blokes top channel!! 👍
Lovely car, it was great watching the intense concentration of Rob during the test drive, feeling and listening for every sound, top work.
Every salvage channel has a Porsche at the moment
Who mate? Not on what I watch tbh....if Evil GT had one it would all be cable tied together pms🤣an saving salvage would just say yeah well let me get back to you on that lol gotta love a Porka bro👍✌️
@@scousehousemaffia4289 Saving Salvage has a Cayman GT4 Matt Armstrong just did a Cayman which he put a GT4 kit on it he has now gone to the US where he has a GT3RS in Tavarish’s shop and Goonsquad recently did one with GT3 RS kit
Definitely worth checking out the alternator aswell, I can always refurb it if you need. Ship it to The Starter Bay in Gloucester
Loved the video, really pleased Chis is keeping this one, he spent so much love a care on the bodywork (as always). X
Another great video guys love how you guys take a gamble hopefully it’s not too much of a nightmare and it’s back in the road look forward to the updates
Rob it’s a high mileage 4s thats had god know what done to it with loads of owners. Good luck guys. 👍🏻
If it's the VIN from the video where you show the reg changes on car vertical - that car comes back as a 2000 tiptronic 996 Cabriolet......??
Thanks for the film. I'll be interested to see how you go about this one. It's a powerful looking and sounding car that's for sure !
Adjust the cables for the selecter under the centre console. The alarm goes off on these, if the battery has been off. you put the key p1 to disconnect the battery and the same to put a new battery on, service the tip tronic, you have a broken rod in the door handle, if the alternator is playing up you can just replace the rectifier part, its all nice bits to do to be fair
I like the 911 style and have converted one for years. ( More than 40!). However, as it's a copy of a GT3, I'd be inclined to return it to original and sell the bits.
When these 996’s go flat or the battery gets low the alarm will go off when trying to start it which is mentally loud.
I would start with a new battery as by the look of the dashboard reading the alternator is working well.
When changing the battery KEEP THE IGNITION ON/POSITION 2 from the start as it will stop the alarm going off when you disconnect the old battery and connect the new one.
Also Heritage Parts now do Porsche parts and I’m sure would love to help with any bits you needed.
Great vid guys! Amazing new project!! Looking forward to many more vids on this one!
Wow guys you’ve bitten off a big chunk there. I had a 1997 993 Targa and 2001 996 for many years but lingering in the back of my mind was always the thought of a massive bill around the corner. Good luck with it I hope you do some videos on it. Loved the honesty of the Rangie fire! I think I’m still shaking too. Keep them coming Rob & Chris, well done.
Hopefully you recovered from your small fire.
Hope you got some new extinguishers notice you have some quite old ones laying around. Best to get them check every year. (None of my business thought)
Enjoy you videos thanks for sharing. Your hard work.
Nice sports car.. but I'd defo get rid of the spoiler and stickers!
Oh and it could do with a full detailed polish. 👍
Rob - always worth putting a 911 or any car with the engine in the mid or rear onto a transporter or trailer backwards. (if you can.)
It helps avoid funny weight distribution and keeps everything on an even keel.
Just my observation from getting it wrong once and an old hand told me that's why all the racers have the car on backwards. Keeps the rig nice and steady.
Great video! Hope you guys have some good luck with this! I think Chris has his eye on this Porsche for the summer!!
Don't set fire to this one Rob !! Very nice motor lads 🙂
Well done Guys. I think this might need a lot of TLC. If it's a 2000 car, it's a 996 with a 3.4 ltr motor. The body kit is a bit GT3/GT2. The 997 GT3 didn't have air intakes in front of the rear wheels, only the Turbo and the GT2. Give the gearbox a service, that will help. And I can recommend Spyder Performance for any suspension parts you may need to cure the rattles. I have then on my 986 Boxster. Hopefully the mice have not got in there!
Deffo worth doing. Might be a headache but going to enjoy watching this one get done . Good luck guys
Dead lovely car fellas, Shane lynch was in a 90s Irish boyband, he had a TV show where did some cars up, you can make money on this one or keep and enjoy for the year, thanks for the video guys 🙏👍🦾⚡⚡🍍🌻☘️❤️❤️🇮🇪🇮🇪
Bit of a Heinz car that - 57 varieties. It's a dolled up 996. Would look a million times better if you removed the lairy stickers, the silly spoiler and had the wheels painted silver. Black wheels to me just look like they're covered in brake dust!
Ok but white against silver ?
@@keithbaldock5304 Any colour except brake dust black!
I have said it many times, if not on this channel, cars like this one don't fair well just sat in a garage. I think you said something along those lines Rob. I am not a Porsche expert but there is a bearing that needs to be checked and changed at a certain mileage, it begins with the letter 'I' but I just can't think of the name. Also get a bore scope and check for bore score. It didn't sound like it was suffering from it but it would be worth checking now before you go too far. You already know that you have to check for rodent activity and yes they can get into tiny spaces. I think you have a great motor there and I am pleased for you both. The things I mentioned are not negative they are just things to check on these cars. Great video Rob and Chris and a good addition to SRUK. 👍👍
Yeah l think you mean the
' lMS bearing ' their is a kit
for it & it ain't cheap ☹️see
Wheeler Dealer episode.
But when done you will
never have to worry about
it ever again. (Drying out
wore it out)
@@charlesallanstewart-kl2op You are right, I just couldn't think of the name, thanks Charles.
Great cars these, not without their issues - but well worth persevering with. Parasitic battery leak is a very common issue. Fairly easy to fix - just needs a specialist auto electrician on it. Starting issues usually down to an £80 starter cable needing replaced - and make sure a new battery is fitted once leccy gremlins are fixed - and is man enough for the job! Otherwise ace. Really like the 997.2 rear lights and ducktail. Could be made to look like a 997 Sport Classic with the right wheels 👌
She sounds lovely and certainly looks like a beast of a motor. Looking forward to seeing the next one. Top work and cheers for the video take care
It's not like Chris is getting excited over one of these. If it had been a GT3 tractor, I could understand that I love it. KEEP IT FOR CHRIS.
Great car. Got to say I'm not a fan of the black GT3 graphics on the side. Maybe me, but I think it makes the car look cheap. Great video chaps 👍
Well done lads!...In my view the only German car worth having on your channel...been a 911 fan since I was a kid, feel like one again watching this!
Hi Chris and Rob..have a look for the alarm tilt sensor and check it is ok as the connections get corroded and another check is the back up battery for the alarm they do go bad and if too low on the voltage trigger the alarm and will not turn off.Good luck with the car. (i have had similar issues with my 2002 Boxter S) ..Nice video
Lovely motor! Thats never gonna be for sale, Chris is looking at it the way I look at my wife on a saturday night after a couple of beers lol
If it's converted to 996 GT3 spec it should have a 3.6-litre motor. Personally I'd ditch the silly wing and lose the graphics (they're 997-spec), then it would look pretty tidy. Could still be a headache but good luck with it 👍
It’s great to see a car like that on the channel, It’s a car that I will probably never own so it will be cool to see you guys working on it and finding out the troubles that lie under the bonnet, It does look very cool though 👍🏼
Nice to see something different 👍 I think you might have a job on your hands, but you will work through it. Looking forward to seeing the results 👍👍
It really hasn't been converted into a GT3. Spoiler, wheels, side vents, seats, sunroof, steering wheel, interior (including rear seats it shouldn't have) are all wrong. 997 wings and lights on a 996. Engine, suspension, steering, brakes and gearbox are also different. Love you guys and the channel. Interested to see how it turns out.
Those wheels are a crime against humanity...
Cracking car, look forward to watching the progress. I hope in the end once all sorted Chris will keep it.
Varied content at its best, well done Chris and Rob
Never rule out a diff battery. They can short internally and spike all sorts. I’d never spend hours and hours searching for gremlins without knowing it’s 100% condition. Learnt this on Land Rovers
Looks like many have tried and failed and moved it on. If anyone can sort it you can , but at what cost? Think like most better stock, as enthusiasts don't like messed with cars. Good luck guys!
We' are being spoilt with white Porsches at the moment with Dean rebuilding his GT4 too! Good luck guys with the repair 🙌
I’d take it back to its original finish, but a beautiful car for you both to work your magic on and look forward to the progress!
I had a Boxster a few years ago from copart.
Absolutely drove me crazy.
I ended up completely ripping the interior out as mice had made a few homes in the thing.
But I had nearly the same fault the immobiliser kept on kicking in when it was running.
Only every like week it wouldn't start wouldn't hold charge in battery but found a body control module that was under the front seat.
Think it was passenger side but can't remember.
But it got damp and done all the connections and mice had has a munch on the wires.
My first choice would be see where that module is.
And them door handles depending on what age and spec they do have wires and alarm system wires coming from door locks and handles.
I had to strip mine down and WD-40 everything
But I got it back to 100% perfect.
But never again stayed well away from Porsches.
Nice motor good luck with it.
If you didn't have grey hair you soon will 🤣🤣🤣
Beautiful car that boys, my dream car, I'd have a proper GT3 over any supercar, but would have to be a manual gearbox. Think it's a easy conversion?
Looking forward to this one!
What a great find lads ...whatever it was or is i'm looking forward to seeing you guys do something with it. Awesome content as usual lads and all the best from your friends down under in Oz 😀
Nice tea tray on the back for those coffees you like 😉. Good luck with the car I hope you get it sorted out ok 👍
ive seen this car being driven very hard round brands hatch doing drifting donuts and burn outs bouncing off the limiter
Love a 911 but that is crying out to be put back to a proper 996. You'd certainly get good money for the parts. Hope you manage to get the electrics sorted 👍🏻
I like the 911s and hope you guys enjoy working on it and do well with it.
The joy of your job is being able to take on jobs like these and enjoy driving cars most of us will only ever dream of driving.
Keep up the good work gents.
Well done guys. It's different, has had a life, looking forward to seeing you guys work the SRUK magic. It needs work,that's the point. I'm sure whatever path you choose with it, it will work out just fine.
Bin the spoiler and boy racer graphics
Exactly my thoughts,pure white better.
Its amazing that there are some people that have so much money, they buy a collection of cars and let them sit there and degrade! ie too many cars to properly appreciate what they have!
They say variety is the spice of life and this project brings variety! Great content ahead, thanks guys.
Hello Rob and Chris,great progress so far on this Porsche 911GT3',it is a work of art as it stands,worth the money when it's finished,I think the parts are gonna be expensive but well worth it.
Can't believe you bought a wiring problem car after the RR tried to kill you 😆
Nice car definitely change all the fluids on it and stick your scanner on it to see what comes up
Looking forward to following the fault finding, lovely car 👍🏻
Hi Rob and Chris, not generally a Porsche fan but.... love this for the channel. Looks like its been sitting doing nothing for a while, so looking forward to the content of sorting it out, and finding out what you had to pay for it. Alex.
I hope this was cheap, like less than 10k. Looks like trouble in every way
Intermittent fault - replace the battery first, as at the source of all potential electrical gremlins
Great buy. Will be great to watch you guys working on this one
Hello both, I am sure that you shall be able to trace where the mice have been, also, where the faults are hiding! You have to take a chance sometimes. A great performance car. Looking forward to seeing what happens next? Best wishes from Lincolnshire.
I like a nice Porsche……..and that isn’t one 😂
I’d disconnect the battery at night till you find the fault so it doesn’t burn.
Great advice 👍’ I was thinking the same’ just couldn’t post it . They are problematic.
If you get further issues with that key release , the ignition switch on 996s is a known failure point. You can take key out and ignition stays on. You can replace electrical portion of switch without changing key. There is a part made by same manufacturer as OEM at significantly reduced cost.
Hello Rob and Chris, nice looking car, hope you get it sorted. This project will make for interesting content. Thank you for making another interesting video. Ged.
Love Porsche, hopefully you'll de-chav this one and get some decent wheels on it (not black) 👍👍
There’s a lot of bitter and jealous people in the comments today 🤦♂️🙄 Yes it’s not a £400k GT3 , but it’s a great car for the Channel that will be an interesting watch 👍😊. Thanks for mixing it up
I really don’t get it sometimes people get really upset and it’s not there car lol 👍
Free content is hard to beat. Jealousy is one thing I will never get my head around. The mix of cars on this channel is unreal
@@sruk I had to stop reading the comments 🤣🤦♂️ It really has triggered some people, most obviously haven’t even watched the whole video! You clearly explain what the original car was, but I guess the trolls are lonely today 🤣😉🤣 I hope the builder gets in touch, so we can find out the history/ build 😊
Love these two guys! Never get tired with this channel
Anything tht age is going to have a few headaches but it should be well worth the trouble, looking forward to deeing you get them sorted
Some people online suggest cracked solder joints in the DME or fuse to DME Rob
I'm a big Porsche fan, have a Cayman myself. I'm not a fan of these 996 done up as a 997, I prefer having the right aero kit for the model. Hate to give poor rating here but this doesn't seem a good example, hopefully you paid under 7k for it 🤞
Cracking bit of kit guys, cant wait to see the progress on it.
another cracking video guys and it's a good job. Nothing puts you off buying any type of car that comes your way can't wait to see what the problem is with it as I'm sure it's not going to be a cheap fix or a quick turnaround do you think one of you guys will keep it for a while after the problems have been solved can't wait to see more keep them coming guys and enjoy your weekend 💯💯💯👍👍👍
If that was in someone’s collection, what does the rest of the collection look like. Scrap?
This is a 996 that’s had a front end switch and headlight upgrade to look like a 997. Is it the 3.4 or 3.6? The early 996s and 997 had bore issues, also prone to IMS bearing failure.
you can tell it is a 3.4 from the dashboard clocks -only goes up to 175 when the 3.6 have a stupid 200mph clock instead
Re intermittent faults, years ago my mother’s Fiesta was very temperamental. Numerous AA visits, batteries, alternators, kept acting up. One day in a garage a mechanic was watching the engine while being started and noticed a tiny crack in an electrical cable. Replaced cable, never gave trouble again.