Cessna RUNS OUT of FUEL after multiple diversions & CRASHED in Bad Weather

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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    On November 15, 2023, about 2120 Pacific standard time, a Cessna P210N airplane, N1400, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near San Diego, California. The pilot was fatally injured. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 personal flight.
    The airline transport pilot had filed an instrument flight rules flight plan from Buchanan Field Airport (CCR), Concord, California, with a destination of French Valley Airport (F70), Murrieta, California (see figure 1). The airplane departed CCR about 1734 and arrived at F70 about 2030. Due to poor weather conditions at F70 the pilot diverted to Mc Clellan-Palomar Airport (CRQ), Carlsbad, California. There was an ILS outage at CRQ, so the pilot elected to divert to Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport (MYF), San Diego, California, to fly the ILS approach.
    The pilot was cleared for the ILS approach at MYF. Subsequently, the pilot reported that he was on a missed approach because he could not see the runway and requested another approach. He also advised ATC that he was running low on fuel. The airplane then maneuvered northwest of the airport, where the pilot reported that he was out of fuel before radar and communication contact were lost.
    A search by law enforcement located the airplane wreckage early the following morning on a hillside in a residential area about 6 miles northwest of MYF. All major structural components of the airplane were located within the main wreckage site.
    The airplane wreckage was recovered to a secure location for further examination.
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  • @donwilson4618
    @donwilson4618 4 дня назад +33

    Declare emergency, vectors to VFR airport, refuel, cup of coffee, fill out the paperwork. Relax and be thankful for the second chance.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  4 дня назад +4

      That's the right way. And don't forget to check the fuel

    • @user-mp9rd4hg8b
      @user-mp9rd4hg8b 2 дня назад

      He was trying not to be a pain in the rear. Look where that got him. I'm sure he would do things differently if he could.

  • @dashriprock4308
    @dashriprock4308 4 дня назад +10

    I loved flying the 210. So fast and very stable on the ILS. I hate to see this wreckage. Just painful.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  4 дня назад

      So painful to watch

    • @shastamccoy7777
      @shastamccoy7777 4 дня назад

      And the best-looking piston single.

    • @karenshafer234
      @karenshafer234 4 дня назад

      I knew who jumped out of barn hay loft with an umbrella...like cartoons. He 'flew' for 4 seconds...walked with a limp rest of his life. He had two leg measurements for each pair of trousers...

  • @shastamccoy7777
    @shastamccoy7777 4 дня назад +7

    This pilot took off with less than 30 minutes of extra fuel. Not good.

  • @gobysky
    @gobysky 4 дня назад +14

    This guy shouldn’t have been out there flying actual instruments. Obviously very low proficiency. Should have easily seen Montgomery if he was on course, stabilized on the approach. If you’re low on fuel close to running out, even if it’s below minimums, declare an emergency and descend to the runway. Better off in a controlled crash on a runway than a sudden stop into obstructions.

    • @gendaminoru3195
      @gendaminoru3195 2 дня назад

      didn't sound IFR qual to me. I think he was used to gaming the system. But that vectoring way up to PDZ didn't help his fuel situation. This and that doctor in the 340 were really hard to listen to.

  • @malakov5
    @malakov5 3 дня назад +2

    So task saturated that he forgot or didn’t think to declare an emergency. I don’t blame the controller at all but maybe having them declare on your behalf when you say “very few minutes” of fuel left would have helped

  • @Brettdyt
    @Brettdyt 4 дня назад +9

    Wow I saw the wreckage and thought it was a survivable crash

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  4 дня назад

      Unfortunately it was FATAL

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ 4 дня назад

      How can you look at a wreckage and determine it was survivable?
      Because the cabin volume remains mostly intact?
      Maybe we should go back to heavy steel, body on frame cars for this reason...

    • @randym7511
      @randym7511 4 дня назад

      ​@@TheJustinJ The plane hit at an angle that caused more damage than what appears. Heavy steel works for cars...not for planes unless you want the plane to be a single place aircraft.

  • @twentyrothmans7308
    @twentyrothmans7308 4 дня назад +4

    Very decent of 8CZ to volunteer to look.
    The accident pilot took his eyes off the ball.

  • @MrSuzuki1187
    @MrSuzuki1187 3 дня назад +3

    The controller gave the pilot a mile long clearance without notifying him first. He did not have time to pick up a pen or pencil to write this complex routing. Also, when you are low on fuel you declare an emergency then you do not fly a missed approach but keep descending until you see the runway. Another case of a pilot crashing by trying to stay legal in a dire emergency. Once an emergency is declared, there is no such thing as approach minimums.

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto 3 дня назад

      He should have expected it after going missed on the RNAV, and followed the published miss. Why did he try the first RNAV, but say he couldn’t take the second one? Inexperience and lack of practice got him killed, not a long clearance.

  • @scottstp7084
    @scottstp7084 2 дня назад

    This accident convinced me to order an aftermarket BAS shoulder harness

  • @user-nx6qr1mt6f
    @user-nx6qr1mt6f 2 дня назад +1

    Voice sounds like a Disney animal character

  • @lyleparadise2764
    @lyleparadise2764 3 дня назад +1

    Why.....why. are we so reluctant to declare a low fuel emergency. ATC will do everything possible to help you get on the ground ASAP if you do. ATC can't read your fuel gauges for you.

  • @robp2728
    @robp2728 3 дня назад +1

    It’s a shame. That looks survivable.

  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto 3 дня назад +1

    Why fight for a VOR or ILS only? He attempted the first RNAV, why turn down the second? Database out of date? Doesn’t remember how to do RNAV? He made things worse for himself. Was he tired? Getthereitis?

  • @iain8837
    @iain8837 4 дня назад +5

    Interesting event, please consider NOT playing the critical radio call in the first few seconds of the video. Keep up the good work.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  4 дня назад

      Noted! Thanks for the suggestion

    • @AlbertHess-xy7ky
      @AlbertHess-xy7ky 3 дня назад

      click bait

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto 3 дня назад

      @@AlbertHess-xy7kyit’s in no way click bait. It’s just a lead. You’re a total 13yo.😊

  • @mitseraffej5812
    @mitseraffej5812 3 дня назад

    The good thing about an ILS is even if you miss the runway by a little you won’t hit any trees.

  • @flyer617
    @flyer617 2 дня назад

    One of my absolutes is to always carry at least an hour of fuel and that's calculated after going missed then flying to alternate. Usually I carry far more. Also, single pilot IFR is not easy, if conditions are marginal you need to consider your proficiency at that moment, for that flight.

  • @secondrule
    @secondrule 4 дня назад +5

    Wow. Does the fuel gauge have a low warning light or alarm? Did he know he was low on fuel as he passed all those airports, and did he figure he would just land on fumes??? I get nervous driving in my car when i get 1/3 empty and fill up...

    • @Andrew-tb9vr
      @Andrew-tb9vr 4 дня назад +1

      GA Aircraft fuel gauges are notoriously unreliable. Fuel is always an estimation, and a requirement to do your calculations to ensure you are always inside plausible fuel burn. Likely he knew he was short of fuel at the end not helped by all of the missed approaches.

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ 4 дня назад

      This is an airplane. Certified by the FAA.
      Therefore working fuel gauges are required by law. But they are not required to be accurate. And low fuel warning lights were an invention of the 1970s. These airplanes were all certified in the 1960s. Therefore, it is illegal to make them better.

    • @DownsouthMan
      @DownsouthMan 4 дня назад +3

      Fuel gauges on almost every airplane that I’ve owned have never been accurate, that’s why we learn in school how to manage our fuel.

    • @gavinsingh4450
      @gavinsingh4450 4 дня назад +4

      It's certified to be accurate when it's empty!

    • @garyradtke3252
      @garyradtke3252 3 дня назад +2

      For some reason aircraft and watercraft both have notoriously inaccurate fuel gauges. Two types of machines that should have the most accurate fuel gauge systems because of the consequences of running out of fuel unlike an automobile when in most cases you can pull over and walk. Automobile gauges and distance left are extremely more accurate.

  • @08turboSS
    @08turboSS 3 дня назад

    Looks like nose into a small hillside.

  • @captainsoftheazulcarrib7491
    @captainsoftheazulcarrib7491 4 дня назад

    😢

  • @Howrider65
    @Howrider65 4 дня назад

    When you hit trees most all of the time you're done sad stuff.

  • @A1FAHx
    @A1FAHx 4 дня назад +4

    Should have declared an emergency 30 minutes prior. RIP

  • @Tony-xj8lp
    @Tony-xj8lp 4 дня назад +2

    When did this happen?

  • @DownsouthMan
    @DownsouthMan 4 дня назад

    Prayers go out to the families.

  • @blueocean9305
    @blueocean9305 4 дня назад +2

    "Lost fuel". Do you mean you burned all your fuel? What you loss was your mind and a nice airplane.

  • @user-lq7hf1ww3k
    @user-lq7hf1ww3k 4 дня назад +2

    Naah! im rich and lucky. I will get away with flying in bad weather with low fuel too. Nahhh !