How A Saxon Thegn Shall Be Armed

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

Комментарии • 66

  • @genbaomiao
    @genbaomiao Месяц назад +7

    This way of learning about history is so much more lively and interesting than books, thanks for the shot!

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you! This is exactly the reason why I make videos like this, I've always learned better from visuals and in-depth video guides rather than text in books so I'm glad that others appreciate it too:)

  • @kerianhalcyon2769
    @kerianhalcyon2769 Месяц назад +1

    I'm legitimately looking forward to more of these. I actually went and used your huscarl vid as the inspiration for an outfit for a character I am writing (wanted his kit to be authentic even though it's in a fantasy setting).

  • @RoundaboutVintage
    @RoundaboutVintage Месяц назад +5

    Very good craftsmanship in recreating the gear/armory (?) and clothing! ❤

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      Thank you, the Saxon in question is a friend of mine from a reenactment group, his wife makes most of his kit :)

  • @ImperiumRomanumYT
    @ImperiumRomanumYT Месяц назад +5

    I like these kind of video's, thank you!

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      Thanks! They are my favourite types of videos to make at the moment, unfortunately reenactment season is now over so I'll have to wait until next year to make more.
      Feel free to share on your channel!! :)

  • @richardhinton3801
    @richardhinton3801 Месяц назад +5

    Really interesting video and demonstration in 'kitting' up for battle.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you :) yes indeed, not everything has to be armour!

  • @ZecaPinto1
    @ZecaPinto1 Месяц назад

    Reminds me of the gastikaponen. The lusitanian warriors of the lower nobility who would wear great round shields and iron helmets, they would form the main line along the tarkanen the warriors who carried smaller shields and swords

  • @ThegreatArmet
    @ThegreatArmet Месяц назад +3

    Really interesting video 👍

  • @saintjacques8137
    @saintjacques8137 Месяц назад

    Awesome aesthetics and style. Have you ever checked out Schwerpunkt's work on the teghns?

  • @jamesanderson6769
    @jamesanderson6769 Месяц назад

    Great video. I've been wondering about Anglo Saxon and Viking padded armor lately. I feel like if they were wearing the multi layered linen gambosons we would hear more about them. Thick wool makes a lot of sense.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +1

      They were certainly multi layered, unfortunately this perishable material rarely survives in any state which is useful to archaeologists but we do know that they likely had thinner gambessons than the 12th century equivalent.

  • @Drikkerbadevand
    @Drikkerbadevand Месяц назад

    It's so crazy to think europe went from every roman legionaire wearing hamata or segmentata to maille being so rare and expensive even a lord wouldn't necessarily have it

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      Well, that's what happens when you have a complete breakdown of a continental-wide industry haha

  • @matthewshepherd5390
    @matthewshepherd5390 Месяц назад +1

    I didn't think Anglo Saxons used cavalry much at all. Would be difficult to ride into battle with that shield

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      It's not too difficult to do. Plus they had shield straps so they could pull the strap over the shoulder and wear it on the side with the hand on the reins.
      We have multiple high end Saxon graves with horses and a lot of horse equipment present in the graves so, from that, we understand that Saxons did use cavalry for combat, or at least the higher classes used cavalry for combat.
      Also, horses were very common in Saxon England but just like cars today, horses came in multiple types of breeds and were used for different things.

  • @grumpybastard5744
    @grumpybastard5744 Месяц назад +3

    My understanding is that the Saxons did not fight on horseback. So the 'lance' is actually a spear.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +3

      Saxons certainly did fight on horseback, the Snape burials even had horses buried with the owners :) Hastings was just an outlier where the Saxons were on foot.

    • @aurelian2668
      @aurelian2668 Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@AlexTheHistoryGuy werent they more like mounted infantry? Just like the normans were?

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 Месяц назад +2

      I thought they rode to the battlefield on horseback, but then dismounted to fight on foot (apart from some light cavalry/skirmishing units).

    • @Darryl_Francis
      @Darryl_Francis Месяц назад

      ​@@JohnyG29 this is true, even after the Norman conquest, the English knights went back to dismounting before fighting.

  • @xxTerraPrimexx
    @xxTerraPrimexx Месяц назад

    Were saxons that brightly coloured material wise then? Awesome.

    • @ARC5
      @ARC5 Месяц назад

      why wouldn't they be? red isn't THAT hard of a color to get man, it isn't blue. even that could be gotten without too much struggle if you wanted it just had to put up with the smell

    • @xxTerraPrimexx
      @xxTerraPrimexx Месяц назад

      @ARC5 don't know the dying process for either lol (I mean granted I could look it up). But to clarify my comment was an "oh I didn't know that" not being snide ^^

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +1

      Haha don't worry I know what you meant, and I appreciate your intrigue :)
      If you watch my recent "Hidden Secrets of Norwich Cathedral" video, I discuss the quest for colour during the medieval period and why it meant so much to them :)

    • @xxTerraPrimexx
      @xxTerraPrimexx Месяц назад

      @@AlexTheHistoryGuy I shall certainly do that!

  • @peacefulfren8879
    @peacefulfren8879 Месяц назад

    what about padding underneath the helmet ?

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      I believe he had an internal liner sewn into the helmet

  • @malosua9790
    @malosua9790 Месяц назад

    So if he COULD afford Maile would he wear it over the Kaftan? I know some guys wore Gambesons (I probably spelled that wrong) underneath their chain, would the Kaftan serve the same purpose?

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +2

      Yes he certainly would have. Gambessons weren't really a thing during the Saxon period, that was more of a thing beginning in the 12th century. The Romans did have a form of padded shirt similar to a gambeson though.

    • @malosua9790
      @malosua9790 Месяц назад

      @ that’s super cool thank you for answering

  • @grindstone4910
    @grindstone4910 Месяц назад

    The very wide belt with double strap pouch intrigues me. Is there a direct reference to that in Grave 47 or other Saxon finds?

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +2

      I didn't actually get very long to speak to him, the little time I had to chat was spent mainly talking about the Shorwell helmet as that was the main component I knew about.
      I've been told by various people that the wide belts are a Larp thing but no one has ever actually been able to tell me why.
      In my own personal use, wide belts help support maille a lot better, keeps everything tucked in and allows me to breath through my chest better rather than lower in my diaphragm so I have nothing but good things to say about wide belts.
      Of course, I have no solid evidence one way or the other.

    • @RyanRyzzo
      @RyanRyzzo Месяц назад +1

      Bears a strong resemblance to a late-Roman military belt "balteus".

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +1

      It wouldn't surprise me, this kit is only from a couple hundred years after the Romans formally left Britain, and the majority of Romano British were still living alongside the Saxons during the 6th century

    • @Vespasian705
      @Vespasian705 Месяц назад

      @@AlexTheHistoryGuy The Sutton Hoo belt buckle is quite wide for the time, not as wide as this one though. So maybe there are wider belts, but not as wide as this? I've never seen anything this wide as a material find, or in any art from the period.

    • @thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603
      @thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 Месяц назад +1

      Nearly everything I normally wear as a viking.As for the belt I do have a thicker belt but I was kept being told it was to thick so I got thin ones. But the thicker one is still used if I carry my sword on my belt I find it more comfortable.And my helmet has the nose guard. But I was thinking of get the same sort as in the video as they probably was the most common from around the 4 to 14th century they was cheap.But I read somewhere that someone was found with a cook pot on his head. And they might have used boiled leather helmets.The problem is people expected things like leg wraps but they was not really used as much as you think.My spear is how long as I can get in my car. Nearly every one carries a sword but I think axes are more fun.

  • @mordororc6970
    @mordororc6970 Месяц назад

    interesting degene meant a knight in old german

  • @30035XD
    @30035XD Месяц назад +2

    Why are you displaying the text info so quick?

    • @Jake5762
      @Jake5762 Месяц назад +1

      I had the same issue. Kept having to pause it to read.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      It's a tricky one. I only have a certain amount of footage so there's a limit to how long I can show text on screen until the footage moves onto another scene so I only have a small amount of time to display the text.
      So yes, pausing may be your best bet haha.

  • @gregoryvigneault1824
    @gregoryvigneault1824 Месяц назад +1

    What a lifestyle, prepared to defend and kill at the summons of the king.

  • @bernhardwidmer886
    @bernhardwidmer886 Месяц назад +1

    a well-aimed arrow and poor Thegn is no more 😞

  • @RasheedKhan-he6xx
    @RasheedKhan-he6xx Месяц назад +1

    A Kaftan you say. In 6th century Saxon Britain. Dsmn globalization.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      The Saxons certainly had kaftans!

    • @RasheedKhan-he6xx
      @RasheedKhan-he6xx Месяц назад

      @AlexTheHistoryGuy I don't doubt it. I'm poking fun at modern anti-globalists.

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 Месяц назад +1

      The Anglo-Saxons certainly had long coats that looked like what we call kaftans today (as I am sure most cultures did), but they didn't call them kaftans. The proper Asian kaftan wasn't really introduced into the west until late Victorian times.

    • @Darryl_Francis
      @Darryl_Francis Месяц назад

      ​@@RasheedKhan-he6xx I'm anti-globalist, what you saying? Come at me.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      If you were truly anti-globalist then you wouldn't want him to come at you. In fact, you'd want him to stay exactly where he is. :^)

  • @user-yr5nv2gv7m
    @user-yr5nv2gv7m Месяц назад

    how/when did 'thegn' became 'knight'? lance on horseback is useless without stirrup

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад +3

      'Knight' is a norman word but it's essentially the same thing.
      I highly doubt lance on horseback is useless without a stirrup as cavalry were using lances for thousands of years before the stirrup was invented. Less impactful, sure. Useless, no.

    • @gregbowen2477
      @gregbowen2477 27 дней назад

      @@AlexTheHistoryGuy Associated with the Norman period and beyond, but worth noting that the word itself comes from Anglo-Saxon "cniht", a young man or servant, rather than from Norman French.

  • @EykisCorporation
    @EykisCorporation Месяц назад +1

    His equipment looks worse than the Roman limitanei.

    • @AlexTheHistoryGuy
      @AlexTheHistoryGuy  Месяц назад

      Explain

    • @MarcoCaprini-do3dq
      @MarcoCaprini-do3dq Месяц назад

      You have to consider that Rome had far more resources and wealth than the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms

    • @EykisCorporation
      @EykisCorporation Месяц назад

      @@MarcoCaprini-do3dq I know. Jus a fact of tecnology degradation.

    • @EykisCorporation
      @EykisCorporation Месяц назад +1

      @@AlexTheHistoryGuy Even a simple Roman soldier who served on a remote frontier was equipped in a similar way.
      But in a time of anglo-saxonic period only the village nobility could afford to equip themselves in this way?

    • @MarcoCaprini-do3dq
      @MarcoCaprini-do3dq Месяц назад

      @@EykisCorporation Thegns were often minor nobility, warriors like earls and huscarls would have worn maille