Deez Nutz The guy on the left. He was the old SOAD's drummer,but in 1997 he got his hand injured and John(the actual drummer)came in. He still makes music and you can also find his comments on other SOAD old demos(his nickname is Ontronik).
Yo I heard you left the band because you thought it wasn’t going anywhere but what’s the real reason you left or is that it? Tbh I kinda wonder what your sound would be like if it was in the released albums
@@humidtrain4898 Yeah, he says he got injured from doing martial arts, while other band members say he got injured from getting mad and punching a wall at a bar or something , haha!
Serj was 27 (Maybe that's why he looks like Jesus?) , Daron was 20 (That's why he looks so young), Shavo was 21 (That's when he had hair), and Andy was 20.
I busted my hand during a JKD sparring session. Shattered bone with pins in hand for a few months and then recovery for another few after that. No question I couldn't drum and they needed to move on, so they did. It was a blessing since it got me in front of a microphone ::
Ok. I heard you thought that the band was going nowhere but maybe it was a game of telephone or some shit. The band wasn’t going anywhere so they decided to get a different drummer. Got it. Also dude I wish your sound was in the albums tho. It really is something.
Thiago Marcelo The sound of the metallic snare can actually work really well in some cases, and I'd say it fits with St. Anger, the only problem is they messed it up with the mixing, and the snare was pretty much louder than everything else.
@Leonidas Neves #suicide(sad💔) Yeah and I also agree with you that Serj Sounds like a Beast Screaming. I also agree to that this is Waaaay more heavy and aggressive. I also love the Jazzy Feel to it.
Daron had to go to one of those parking garages, but the lowest floor to get that echo for his part. While Serj, well, Serj was in his closet screaming as loud as he could.
Woah, not only have I not heard the demo tape, but I have never seen Andy. Bet he wishes he never had that karate accident or whatever it was. Such success in Toxicity. But I like John.
No guys, you're misunderstanding me. This demo version is completely different (not just in sound quality) it's slower too... and I want them to record a cleaner version of this as they play and sing it differently. I thought it was obvious what I was saying. As a fan of them I know that the other version of Sugar is on their self-titled album..
God, look at serj xD How cute. if he had continued singing like this, then there would have been no albums after toxicity. He would probably have lost his voice x)
E tem gente que acha que produtor não serve pra nada kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, eu gosto de ver essas demos e entender a importância que tinha os produtores naquela época, a visão comercial dos caras etc
the drummer is Ontronik Khachaturian the Lead Songwriter and singer of The Apex Theory he injured in his hand that why he couldnt play drums ! then the bring john !!
I love Daron's yelling in this one...Serj looks like Jesus...Ontronik's drumming was very good...I love the demo better than the actual album recording
i love how serj sounds like he's recording with a $5 microphone while daron sounds like he has the highest quality mic on the market
FAX
The worst mistake they could've done in this demo, would be the best demo ever if Seri had Daron's mic, cmom, this is SO heavy
@@leonidasneves7972 I think Serj sounds better with the bad mic. It makes the song darker.
@@SuperTiaanBro It really does make it darker, but still, would be so good if we could tell what he is screaming with a better mic
Lmaooo Darons is coming thru like
S U G A R
I keep expecting "SHUGAHH" but then daron pulls a "shuga 💁"
i love how daron saying "suga!" is the most clear part of this song
at a slower tempo, this song's jazz influence is alot more evident.
it's already evident enough the way it is
Simple swing beat
very tricky on the drums
ye
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WE MAKIN' IT OUT OF LEBANON WITH THIS ONE FR 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
HELPPSP
they made it out of Glendale
serj is jesus while daron is a school student
what the fuck is shavvo!
+Deez Nutz He still had some hair.
Andy looks almost creepy.
+RyanzTM who's Andy?
Deez Nutz The guy on the left.
He was the old SOAD's drummer,but in 1997 he got his hand injured and John(the actual drummer)came in.
He still makes music and you can also find his comments on other SOAD old demos(his nickname is Ontronik).
speed at 1.25 => actual version
nice profile pic love RATM to
+07nacho11494 You're right.. wow. RATM rules though.
07nacho11494 no, album version at 0.75x => actual version
1.5 live version
Thanks for speed advice 😉
As much as I love this, it sounds like it was recorded from a damn tin can.
melleryeller who said it wasn't =)
HAHA loool, man you made my day.
melleracappeller it was recorded in a tin warehouse with some soundproofing, there demos were recorded in an old warehouse
It was actually recorded in their rehearsal space at a warehouse.
Well , it is a demo
thanks, had fun recording the drums on this ::
drum drum drum 🪁 i named my kite amelia
Hey andy, do you still have contacts with the band members
Yo I heard you left the band because you thought it wasn’t going anywhere but what’s the real reason you left or is that it? Tbh I kinda wonder what your sound would be like if it was in the released albums
@@jacksbrewbaker4300 from what I heard he got injured but who knows lol
@@humidtrain4898 Yeah, he says he got injured from doing martial arts, while other band members say he got injured from getting mad and punching a wall at a bar or something , haha!
Serj's hair looks like Hey Arnold
Move it football head
Serj sounds Drunk here or high
both lol
Yes
Lol
yes
Gotta love how lousy/dirty this version sounds
he needs to speak more clearly
+Hard Head I think it just sounds so muffled since they recorded it with a tin can
Serj looks like the majestic version of Jesus who rides a unicorn instead of giving people fish and shit
tru stury ma brutalhead
Serj was 27 (Maybe that's why he looks like Jesus?) , Daron was 20 (That's why he looks so young), Shavo was 21 (That's when he had hair), and Andy was 20.
This was before John joined?
So Serj is 6-7 years younger than the other members? Didn't Serj and Daron meet in high school? Like, they were of similar age?
@@juanvazquez5836 no serj is now 53 and daron is now 45.
So Serj is one of the oldest members of SOAD
@@RealIG125 Yeah
0:11 you could hear all the emotion in that very expressive “sugar” that darron so longingly said into his high-quality mic
I busted my hand during a JKD sparring session. Shattered bone with pins in hand for a few months and then recovery for another few after that. No question I couldn't drum and they needed to move on, so they did. It was a blessing since it got me in front of a microphone ::
Ontronik Andy Khachaturian wtf this really you Andy??
@@squidward9747 i think it is
@@squidward9747 I've seen him in others videos
@@squidward9747 it’s him
Ok. I heard you thought that the band was going nowhere but maybe it was a game of telephone or some shit. The band wasn’t going anywhere so they decided to get a different drummer. Got it. Also dude I wish your sound was in the albums tho. It really is something.
I liked very much Ontronik's drumming on this track.
Serj seems to be in real pain here.
I love the metallic snare.
+John Jack Doe I love how the drumming sounds like in the 1st Demo. IT JUST PUMPS ME UP.
The Reptilian Wizard Lizard totally agree!
I too love me sum St. Anger snares
(ngl, I really like the snare here and would prefer it over the garbage St. Anger one all the time)
David Snake Doe its almost st anger from metallica
@@JarrettDoesRUclips its just a piccolo snare lol
OMG Shavo has hair!
1mm!
Barely 😂
shavo delocho is so cool
@@tigrehermano Shavo del Ocho😭😂
imagine being their neighbor when they were a garage band that would be so epic
if this version had better production quality it'd be awesome. the emotion he puts in the end is just..........incredible
Serj sounds so filled with rage!
MusicalManiac probably cause he is
2:15 St Anger snare drum
+Thiago Marcelo Hahahaha
+Thiago Marcelo I really like "metallic" snare on metal songs
Lars was inspired by that
Thiago Marcelo The sound of the metallic snare can actually work really well in some cases, and I'd say it fits with St. Anger, the only problem is they messed it up with the mixing, and the snare was pretty much louder than everything else.
The St. Anger snare was actually a snare drum tuned real high and the snares off
2:17 The verse in this version is brutal man, I love it.
I know its Epic!!!
2:17
The whole demo is brutal
I like Daron's yelling
darons "sugar" in this has amazing reverb.
When Daron said sugar I melted
when they released their first album they should of made sugar like this. this is system in it's rawest, purist form.
Hell nah. The finished version of sugar sounds a lot better and fits their style a lot better.
This version is a fucking trip. What would this be described as? Sludge?
So i guess this Version is not Nu-Metal huh?
@@Itz-Le0style98 i didnt know the original was regarded as Nu Metal
@@kosmic100 i just couldn't tell if this version was Nu-Metal or not...
@@Itz-Le0style98 Daron considers Sugar to be a "jazzy hardcore song".
i dont know why i laughed so hard at this
Ontronik... dang forgot about that guy
He isn't John. John joined in 1997, and this pic is from '95.
Super super late reply cos it’s someone called Ontroink Andy something but this is from 2020
Archival will Report you on Fortnite his name is Ontronik Khachaturian
Ontronik Khachaturian actually left System in 1995
@@nabyryous in 1997*
@@Dubatis My bad
THE SLOWED INTRO😻
so cool how soad were lowkey making sludge metal at first, love how swingy this version is too. very dark and raw,
If Andy never left the band due to the injury, they might as well call their band System of Ian.
All their names end in "-ian".
It would be Idubz favorite band
they can still be system of a an
Eric Cardona johns last name doesnt have “-ian” but when you say his last name it technically is there
What happend to him?
MKING37 if Andy didnt leave
Didn’t
it sounds like jazz in some parts lols
this is sick.
Why the original doesnt sound like this, this is waaaay more heavy and agressive, literally serj sounds like a beast screaming
This is the original...lol you mean why doesn't the album version sound like this.
@@Itz-Le0style98 true
@Leonidas Neves #suicide(sad💔) Yeah and I also agree with you that Serj Sounds like a Beast Screaming. I also agree to that this is Waaaay more heavy and aggressive. I also love the Jazzy Feel to it.
@Leonidas Neves #suicide(sad💔) why do you call yourself Suiside tho??? Is everything okay in your life???
Daron had to go to one of those parking garages, but the lowest floor to get that echo for his part. While Serj, well, Serj was in his closet screaming as loud as he could.
Remember this was recorded 1995
Their sound was ahead of their time
Daron looks like a little boy XD
I was like 6 when you commenyrd this
@@prodbykomrebi How old are you now?
i like the way the guitar “slides” left and right
This version is fucking awesome!!
It's been a long time and I still love this demo so much. It's sounds more aggressive and dirty gghhh lovelovelove
Woah, not only have I not heard the demo tape, but I have never seen Andy. Bet he wishes he never had that karate accident or whatever it was. Such success in Toxicity. But I like John.
Jesus Tankian :D
Thornovich LOL! 😆
Look how young shavo is!!
Lmao serj looks like a hippie Jesus and Daron looks like a middle school student, shavo just looks younger..
BRUTAL
Its extreamley common for armenians surnames to end with IAN.
OMG I think this song just enriched my life
*SUGAR BUT IN JAZZ STYLE*
i love this version 😔
It's hard to tell which version of sugar I like best
this is the livest, oldest, sunniest studio ever
every time i hear the word sugar i think of sugaaaa
The guitar sounds amazing! I wish he kept that style for their self titled album and toxicity
Put it to 1.25
yes it’s sounds like the original
OMG THAT'S AWESOME!
i like the ''how do i feel? what do i say?'' part in this version, serj actually sounds like he is losing his shit lol
I want them to record a cleaner, non-demo 'proper' version of this! :D This is awesome!
They have a proper version..
My fucking BRAINS!!
No guys, you're misunderstanding me. This demo version is completely different (not just in sound quality) it's slower too... and I want them to record
a cleaner version of this as they play and sing it differently.
I thought it was obvious what I was saying.
As a fan of them I know that the other version
of Sugar is on their self-titled album..
***** Haha yeah man probably. BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS!!
@@JuvenileWalrusr/whoooosh
when you come down from a sugar rush
God, look at serj xD How cute.
if he had continued singing like this, then there would have been no albums after toxicity. He would probably have lost his voice x)
smiles .. giggles and says... sugaaaaaaaaaaa ~~~~~ awesome
“Ok, that’s perfect, can’t wait for the talent show”
Hello, Mr. Ontronik "Andy" Khachaturian! :D
The Sugar is one of my favorite song, and I like this demo version too.
1:06
Real voice of tankian
Dude serj's hair is badadss!!!
This is back when John Dolmayan wasn't the drummer and Ontronik Khachaturian was part of the band. Both are great musicians.
1.25 speed brings you to the original tempo.
HELP DARONS SHUGAH
Awesome quality!
Ontronik Khachatur IAN
Serj Tank IAN
Shavo odadj IAN
Daron Malak IAN
Impossibru!
all armen IAN s have the same last part of last name
It's because they are all ArmenIAN.
John DolomyAN....yea that does work...fuck
East Europe
JarrettDoesRUclips there is no I... Armenian people have Ian and Yan in their names
Holy shit 2023 and I just ran into this.
Serj has an amazing beard in that picture. I want a beard now.
Did they record this inside of the Lars snare drum?
oh shit!never seen the original drummer before!
E tem gente que acha que produtor não serve pra nada kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, eu gosto de ver essas demos e entender a importância que tinha os produtores naquela época, a visão comercial dos caras etc
i want to hear this song remastered!!
Love the work!
tbh i like this better than the album version
best SOAD song of all time
1:37 wtf happened there??
SUGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
Honestly this sounds like a high school band trying to cover sugar while stoned. The ever so monotone 'Sugar'
they look so youngggggggg
cool, thanks
When darron said sugar I melted
Amazing!
This is freaking awesome! Damn!
Much better than the version now! :)
Anna Malakian hell nah
the drummer is Ontronik Khachaturian the Lead Songwriter and singer of The Apex Theory he injured in his hand that why he couldnt play drums ! then the bring john !!
Andy's got that St. Anger snare
Sugaaa 👉👉
Sugar!
I like this aggressive vocal of Serj recorded on carrots
my ears pains, I love it
I love Daron's yelling in this one...Serj looks like Jesus...Ontronik's drumming was very good...I love the demo better than the actual album recording
Omg! Yus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jessie zayac Omg right...Daron is sooo adorable
IKR!
jessie zayac Yeah!!!! Cx
You are so right! Demos are so much better!
thanks!
AND ARE YOU HAPPY?! COME ON! I WORK FOR THE SYSTEM!
st anger ahhh snare
something's wrong with my humor cus why is this so funny to me