The optional toggle for the action mergers is really nice. At some point during 6.X they merged Jump and Dive to share a hotkey for Dragoon but some players complained about unintentional double weaving of the skills so they reverted it back to 2 separate buttons. Now everyone will have the option of whether they want them merged or separate.
That does seem to be the direction they're going based on the job action trailer, I just used it as an example since it was an actual example of the devs trying to squish buttons to reduce bloat but getting negative feedback from some players.
@@axylum4453 Not at all. If you're spamming HJ and it accidentally queues up MD due to their shit code then you've just lost your ability to use GSK without entering life.
Both the new action after 3 Fell Cleaves & the new action after Primal Rend have the blue aura indicating that they're off-GCDs so I don't think the burst window is gonna change much, you just gonna press some more buttons
The ability they use when you have executed 3 fell cleaves has a blue aura around you upon execution, which for non-spell attacks indicates its a oGCD while orange aura is a GCD
I love how they combine Delirium and Blood Weapon, which is good, to reduce the amount of oGCDs during the burst, but Salted Earth and Salt And Darkness is still there lmao I love it
They did also remove plunge which was 2 ogcds. So in total we're down three ogcds. Is this not what yall want? Why does SE and Salt and Darkness matter lol
@@zanijin550 Did they really? It looked like enhanced unmend, but instead of reducing Plunge's CD by 5s, you just press Unmend again to rush to the target.
salted earth should be an aura aoe around you even moving, that each damage pulse gives blood gauge (like it use to) for each enemy in range of it, and salt & darkness eats the blood gauge for a big heal (and still does additional damage) if used before salted durations ends. I'd prefer this as drk own short cd self heal than TBN.
Gunbreaker getting lionheart is exciting, it's the last of the FFVIII limit break finishers that we didn't have. Xeems, I recommend looking up FFVIII Lionheart if you haven't seen it.
The thing about the 1 button combo, is that theres no fucking way SE will actually utilise that to add more complexity. If they did, I'd be so thankful, but I don't think there's a fucking chance.
so some possible openers could be 1. tomahawk -> infuriate -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms eye -> inner release -> inner chaos -> upheaval -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> MAAAN(new attack) -> primal rend -> MODE(new attack) -> infuriate -> inner chaos -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms path -> fell cleave -> infuriate -> inner chaos if it turns out that the new attacks are OGCDs then second infuriate and inner chaos can be moved to right after MAAAN(new attack) instead 2. tomahawk -> infuriate -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms eye -> inner release -> inner chaos -> upheaval -> onslaught -> primal rend -> MODE(new attack) -> infuriate -> inner chaos -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> fell cleave -> MAAAN(new attack) -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms path -> fell cleave -> infuriate -> inner chaos if it turns out that the new attacks are OGCDs then this part (> infuriate -> inner chaos -> onslaught) can be moved to later in the combo, maybe between the second and third fell cleave main difference being whether you do primal rend early or late in the opener.
@@jtowensbyiii6018 Damn its crazy considering i dont think ive seen a single good MMO come out that has more buttons than FFXIV and its definitely not any mmo released in the last 20 years considering most are WoW clone trash. So im curious as to what mmos you could be talking about.
As far as job design goes its such a nothing ability with no relation to the kit, its like what they turned goring blade into. A random 60 sec cooldown you press in burst because why not
@@obamaorb7426 You’re Not an expert lil bro. It adds a dot with 300 potency. It’s clearly a skill that shouldn’t be ignored. Tell me you don’t have GNB unlocked without telling me you don’t have GNB unlocked
@wtfdidijustwatch1017 Nobody said it isn't important to use for damage, I'm saying as far as job design, it's completely disconnected from the kit and only exists as a random cooldown to be pressed every 60 seconds. You'd think you'd actually read the commebt you've passibely aggressively responding to
@wtfdidijustwatch1017 Or just have it do something interesting, like making the DoT actually matter and need to be maintained by allowing thr ability to be pressed whenever and renewed as its about to fall off, literally anything that isn't just some random button you push every minute like how goring blade is now. As it is now both feel like they aren't impactful at all on jobs that are otherwise really well put together and designed.
I get the mindset that making 1 button combos would allow them to add more combos and actions, but realistically it's modern ff14, they won't compensate with the additional combos because since heavensward they've never really added complexity to jobs anymore, they remove small aspects of complexity one at a time then replace them with nothing
They are huffing the same copium for more combos as the people who think, "They are adding more mitigation cause things will hit harder and require more mit." One button combos takes out that slight margin of error that could happen making it easier. They are not going to add more combos/buttons to compensate, the status quo for them is just upgrading existing buttons.
It feels like every time they make an honest improvement like this, I think "Wow, this would be great...1 or 2 expansions ago, before they dumbed down the core of all these jobs."
The blood weapon change is something I've been waiting for ever since they changed it from a time duration to stacks, and removed the Skill Speed reduction when active (much older effect change). I'm sure the new moves will change it up enough otherwise too, but still interesting to see just how much of a change they do to combat this time. Usually every expansion they significantly change combat and some jobs.
The funny thing about warrior is that it's back at ShB state (minus extra gauge management from upheaval). The removed fell cleaves now are the follow up combos & primal rend, basically. I don't mind, the fantasy is there and I liked spamming fell cleave in ShB.
4:30 Take it a step further and let us map a string of actions to one button. Put a cap of 5 or so, like the cap of 15 for macros, so we don't just map rotation to a single button, but that would be huge as an accessibility option and raising the floor of player performance to allow for more interesting dungeons.
its crazy the juxtaposition of good and great players. You have certain people on twitter malding about the truncating of certain skills for ease of use when them and their team were some of the first people to clear on WF stuff and then getting upset about it when others have it. "if you cant press your skills correctly, you dont deserve the damage." then you have xeno and arthars. "finally, i want more shit on my hotbar" lmao great video xeems, your content has been so good lately, not to say it wasnt before but i enjoy it even more now.
So basically they made Inner Chaos look like an actual upgraded Fell Cleave. Because that's what Nascent Chaos from Infuriate does. It upgrades Fell Cleave into Inner Chaos. As it looks right now, it's just an upswing instead of an actual upgraded version.
Someone pointed out how all classes have healing and damage reduction buffed means Yoshi P and the team may be cooking hard for future fights… I can’t wait
Im also interested in how it seems like caster jobs are getting more movement, redmage with an extra combo, blackmage with moving leylines, picto with the 20 second dash, and summoner just being summoner. Also the reduced swiftcast. Kind of excited to see if the new tier is gonna be a fuck ton of movement, i hope at least
When I play gunbreaker during prog I sometimes spam 121212 for the heals and shields if I could set the button to 1-2 reset that would be okay with me but I don’t want to be forced to do 123 if I turn this setting on
9:10 There's a difference between what mods will allow client-side for stuff, and what SE would have to implement to get it to work "properly" based on server-side code. Much of the things that plugins allow via client-side-only functionality can easily be implemented by SE if they do the same stuff. But, as soon as they implement those features client-side, they lose control over much of what they can do with those features. This could have way more unintended side effects that allow other mods to do things they really don't want them to be able to do.
So I guess it's something similar to what we have in PVP? Where instead of pressing different buttons for a combo chain, you're pressing just one button? Wonder how that will work for alternate routes like for DRG's
After 3 entire expansions of fuckall but streamlining and simplifying everything 8.0 had fucking better add some variety and job identity back, it's getting really old really quickly.
Is it bad that I'd rather Delirium become Blood Weapon than Blood Weapon become Delirium? Feel like DRK always seems to lose its coolest animations (first was Power Slash in favor of Souleater)
Paladin has like 4 buttons with ridiculous cooldown times. I can’t wait to stack combos, Shadowbringers teased it in one of the job quests and we never got it.
I really wonder if the "skill after 3 fell cleave" does count inner chaos as a fell cleave and/or out of inner release fell cleaves. If it does, it'd be sick D: (and a HUGE leap compared in dps compared to previous extention holy shit)
Does this mean I can setup the atonement combo then have it turn into the magic combo all on one button? If it turns all the "Spam this button 4 times and then spam the magic button 4 times" into "Press just press this one key when it's time for any spam combo" then we have a deal!
Look for everything they have mentioned so far. I think these changes will be great. BUT can someone tell me what they are going to do with inventory space and management? I would like retainers to have more space and more space in my glam dresser. Probably more glamour plate pages.
I’m lmao at Xenos opinion on action change settings because he’s like “cool they need to add that so we could have more combos” meanwhile sweatytryhard2093 or whatever his name is who literally made Yoshi P change how markers work in ff because his whole static cheated tried taking the elitist route
On the topic of combining combos into single-button pvp-style combos, I'm against it, but not for the reason that many people likely assume. My issue isn't that it's bad for the game, just that it's at best a band-aid. sinlge-button combos are not combos, they're just an illusion. Exactly what he said regarding the Attonement changes for Paladin, it's the illusion of a combo, a fake combo. Turning an existing combo into a single button would also become a fake combo. If your "combo" is just pressing the same button repeatedly, then why even have a combo anymore? Just make it a single spammable action that you use when all of your other stuff is on cd (or while waiting on resources). And that's fine to. If you just want a filler action that you use when everything else is on cd, then that's a valid design choice as well. I mean, that's how Bard works, blast arrow is just a filler that you use when you have nothing else to try to get procs while waiting on timers. But that's not a combo, and I don't see the need to pretend like it is. IMHO the purpose of combos is specifically to avoid having spammable filler actions. I'm not saying that either is better or worse than the other. If you'd rather a spammable filler action, that's fine, if you want combos instead, that's fine. But they're different things. And it may well be that the game has evolved to a point where combos are out-dated. All of the jobs have a lot of other actions, and various resources and timers to manage, maybe combos don't contribute any meaningful complexity to the game anymore. So, maybe you would rather have a spammable filler action, but don't want the same animation over and over again. And yeah, I can respect that. But to me, that sounds like the bigger issue is that you don't want to be using that filler action as often, you want to be pressing more interesting buttons instead. And a fake 1-button combo doesn't fix that issue, it just hides it under a coat of paint.
i dont think we are getting one button combos just yet, im pretty sure what they were talking about is just the option to split attacks that are already the same button like fell cleave and inner chaos
3:27 You cant actually queue Geirskogul (DRG) when you try to cast it at the end of a Life of the Dragon window, because its not on your hotbar Thats the only niche use I can think of other than personal preference, and LoD is getting nerfed back to 20s with 7.0 anyways so this change wont even fix it LMAO Oh hey, after watching more of the video, it'd be nice on WAR too, if the devs didn't outright delete that problem too lmao
I think should have let them discuss each change first then pause it so he could give his input so there wasn't him overtalking her explaining what was being said
I wonder how the 1 button combo feature works with abilities that could proc two different abilities. Dragoons first attack branches into two different combos.
Some abilitys probably still stack, i assume if simple chain combos, like oh you do 1 2 3 and loop, like bard. While reaper has itd 1 2, then has wither 3 or 4 so might stay separate
@@ruick78 True Thrust is the starting attack for Vorpal Thrust->Full Thrust->Fang and Claw->Wheeling Thrust. True Thrust also is the starting attack for Disembowl->Chaos Thrust->Wheeling Thrust->Fang and Claw. The only thing I can think of is having to choose which combo True Thrust starts and then having a second combo set that only triggers after True Thrust. This would still definitely reduce the button bloat for DRG. Though I think I might still have Wheeling and Fang as seperate buttons as they are positionals and I have them set up on my hotbar in a way to easily remind me which side of the target I need to be. Would also reduce my line aoe spamming to one button and make it impossible for me to mess up that rotation like I commonly do 😂
well in pvp you have "combo 1" button and "combo 2" button that both start at vorpal thrust but have different progressions. but i also dont think we are getting one button combos yet, the slide was talking about just the option to split attacks that are already the same button like fell cleave and inner chaos
would changing blood weapon to having it only during delirium screw up early living shadow openers? because normally it would be start with blood weapon, put up dark arts, do 123 then bring living shadow into delirium in the first 6-8 seconds of the fight
Man i just realised how terrible 2 min no mercy windows are gonna be now, you're either not getting the lionheart combo in burst or leaving burst with 3 carts
I wonder how samurai will work with the action change settings, like with meikyo or whatever the skill is that lets you use 3 attacks regardless of where they go in the combo Edit: I'll probably set the base 1, 2, 3 to auto replace and then for classes like warrior I'll have their alternative ender on the bar still, so have storms path as the self replace combo and then have storms eye off the side
If drk was just completly reworked i'd be happy. Then they'd give it its due attention. Like do they even read NA or EU forums? stupid question i'm not malding, you are.
I wanted a DRK rework so long bro ;-; They remove 1 weave with Blood Weapon/Delirium but add another with a new attack after Fray summoned... I don't my job to be "random shit go" the class ;-; It has no flow or reason, just dmg buttons. At least GNB has a flow in it's rotation, DRK i just press buttons. NA/EU forums are just filled with parse junkies I swear. They only care if the class does damage, it doesnt matter how shit it feels to play, if it does damage that's all they care about it.
@@GhosttheassassinSJ looks like when is delirium activated it might change the 124 combo which is nice, the 30% mitigation button may or may not have class specific bonuses and the overhyped dot no longer costs blood to summon. Nice things but I don’t think it’s enough.
@@infamousdestruc No it's not that. It's you being able to separate abilities that are already part of the same combo. Think Confiteor combo, you'd be able to separate Blade of Fatih, Truth, and Valor from that button and have them on separate buttons if you so wanted.
I want a DRK rework ;-; I don't want "random shit go the job" I want a flow in my rotation like GNB, but I'm just pressing buttons when I'm DRK. I want lifesteal, or GCD abyssal drain. I want TNB not tied to DMG anymore ;-;
I personally don't like the merge of delirum and blood weapon. at least on paper it seems dumb to me. maybe once I get to try it out I will change that take
I noticed that Primal Rend makes the "Combo Noise" after the first big slam, so maybe it's a 3 step combo? It would be kinda awkward considering PR can be used as a gap closer but...
3:25 - limiting a Pally 123 combo to 12 for max SP regen and thus more clemencies saved me from wiping a few times when healers decided to tank the floor but otherwise I dunno.
I wonder if the super fell cleave is gonna replace inner release and have like a 30s timer like primal rend... Because as it stands, inner release isn't really a damage buff, it's a "you have buffed fell cleaves that always crit and can now vertical beyblade yippeeee". It all crits anyway. IF they added a % damage to it like no mercy... THEN it could be a bit spicy.
The optional toggle for the action mergers is really nice. At some point during 6.X they merged Jump and Dive to share a hotkey for Dragoon but some players complained about unintentional double weaving of the skills so they reverted it back to 2 separate buttons. Now everyone will have the option of whether they want them merged or separate.
Should put jump on the gcd?
That does seem to be the direction they're going based on the job action trailer, I just used it as an example since it was an actual example of the devs trying to squish buttons to reduce bloat but getting negative feedback from some players.
I can't believe this is an actual complaint SE received and responded to. Legitimately sounds like skill issue
@@axylum4453 Not at all. If you're spamming HJ and it accidentally queues up MD due to their shit code then you've just lost your ability to use GSK without entering life.
@@axylum4453 Maybe you're trash at drg but you do not want to weave HJ and MD together so it was indeed dogshit.
Both the new action after 3 Fell Cleaves & the new action after Primal Rend have the blue aura indicating that they're off-GCDs so I don't think the burst window is gonna change much, you just gonna press some more buttons
War has probs lost its damage forward step too..
@@leighg9o nope!
Theres a possibilty of dropping the ogcd and a fell cleave in opener though XC....😢
21:22 to hear strummer turn into an elephant zpp
The ability they use when you have executed 3 fell cleaves has a blue aura around you upon execution, which for non-spell attacks indicates its a oGCD while orange aura is a GCD
Same goes for super primal rend
I love how they combine Delirium and Blood Weapon, which is good, to reduce the amount of oGCDs during the burst, but Salted Earth and Salt And Darkness is still there lmao I love it
They did also remove plunge which was 2 ogcds. So in total we're down three ogcds. Is this not what yall want? Why does SE and Salt and Darkness matter lol
@@zanijin550 cuz its shit and useless
@@zanijin550 Did they really? It looked like enhanced unmend, but instead of reducing Plunge's CD by 5s, you just press Unmend again to rush to the target.
salted earth should be an aura aoe around you even moving, that each damage pulse gives blood gauge (like it use to) for each enemy in range of it, and salt & darkness eats the blood gauge for a big heal (and still does additional damage) if used before salted durations ends. I'd prefer this as drk own short cd self heal than TBN.
What's the issue with those too spells?
LIONHEART LFG
Squall's ultimate move.
Gunbreaker getting lionheart is exciting, it's the last of the FFVIII limit break finishers that we didn't have. Xeems, I recommend looking up FFVIII Lionheart if you haven't seen it.
The thing about the 1 button combo, is that theres no fucking way SE will actually utilise that to add more complexity.
If they did, I'd be so thankful, but I don't think there's a fucking chance.
We shall see
that thumbnail HOLYYYYY he's so cool
indeed very sexy expression
He's ok.
would
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Sonic Break, and Bowshock, but some respect on their names.
So many Continuations, so little No Mercy
I love how the Axehead almost doubles in size for Primal Rend 2, its just so over the top that it fits warrior really well
so some possible openers could be
1.
tomahawk -> infuriate -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms eye -> inner release -> inner chaos -> upheaval -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> onslaught -> fell cleave
-> MAAAN(new attack) -> primal rend -> MODE(new attack) -> infuriate -> inner chaos -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms path -> fell cleave -> infuriate -> inner chaos
if it turns out that the new attacks are OGCDs then second infuriate and inner chaos can be moved to right after MAAAN(new attack) instead
2.
tomahawk -> infuriate -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms eye -> inner release -> inner chaos -> upheaval -> onslaught -> primal rend -> MODE(new attack) -> infuriate -> inner chaos -> onslaught
-> fell cleave -> onslaught -> fell cleave -> fell cleave -> MAAAN(new attack) -> heavy swing -> maim -> storms path -> fell cleave -> infuriate -> inner chaos
if it turns out that the new attacks are OGCDs then this part (> infuriate -> inner chaos -> onslaught) can be moved to later in the combo, maybe between the second and third fell cleave
main difference being whether you do primal rend early or late in the opener.
Honestly I dont mind the filler combos just being made into 1 skill that changes into the next. Our hotbars are already getting bloated enough as if.
It’s already a thing pvp and some of gunbreaker
I didn't notice the new AOE move because Papachin's Orogeny looks just like that 😂
Having more than 33 buttons would require me to grow and extra finger or start clicking abilities. So these action changes are fine with me.
Lmfao 😂 most good mmos have literally 60+
Just play GNB you grow like 2 or 3 extra fingers 😂😂
@@jtowensbyiii6018 And how many buttons do you actually use and are not useless?
@@jtowensbyiii6018 Damn its crazy considering i dont think ive seen a single good MMO come out that has more buttons than FFXIV and its definitely not any mmo released in the last 20 years considering most are WoW clone trash. So im curious as to what mmos you could be talking about.
@@jtowensbyiii6018 Most buttons in a mmo prolly goes to FFXI, but I don't even think it gets up to 60, so I have no idea what mmo's you're playing
man that one guy who commented "same thumbnail" got to ya, i do enjoy the new ones! yesterdays had me dying laughing
As a FF VIII Fan and GNB main, I love sonic break ty very much Xeems.
As far as job design goes its such a nothing ability with no relation to the kit, its like what they turned goring blade into. A random 60 sec cooldown you press in burst because why not
@@obamaorb7426 You’re Not an expert lil bro. It adds a dot with 300 potency. It’s clearly a skill that shouldn’t be ignored.
Tell me you don’t have GNB unlocked without telling me you don’t have GNB unlocked
@wtfdidijustwatch1017
Nobody said it isn't important to use for damage, I'm saying as far as job design, it's completely disconnected from the kit and only exists as a random cooldown to be pressed every 60 seconds. You'd think you'd actually read the commebt you've passibely aggressively responding to
@@obamaorb7426 Give a cartridge cost then. Boom. Now it’s all a sudden perfect. Oh wait, you wouldn’t like that
@wtfdidijustwatch1017
Or just have it do something interesting, like making the DoT actually matter and need to be maintained by allowing thr ability to be pressed whenever and renewed as its about to fall off, literally anything that isn't just some random button you push every minute like how goring blade is now. As it is now both feel like they aren't impactful at all on jobs that are otherwise really well put together and designed.
I get the mindset that making 1 button combos would allow them to add more combos and actions, but realistically it's modern ff14, they won't compensate with the additional combos because since heavensward they've never really added complexity to jobs anymore, they remove small aspects of complexity one at a time then replace them with nothing
They are huffing the same copium for more combos as the people who think, "They are adding more mitigation cause things will hit harder and require more mit." One button combos takes out that slight margin of error that could happen making it easier. They are not going to add more combos/buttons to compensate, the status quo for them is just upgrading existing buttons.
It feels like every time they make an honest improvement like this, I think "Wow, this would be great...1 or 2 expansions ago, before they dumbed down the core of all these jobs."
They should add the 1 button combos, but they aren't anyhow. People misunderstood it.
@@blueray222
This is exactly my mindset, i feel like the healthiest space for the game is probably stormblood job design with modern QoL features
I’ve been wanting a fated circle continuation T-T and the fact that we’re getting Lionheart makes my hyped
The blood weapon change is something I've been waiting for ever since they changed it from a time duration to stacks, and removed the Skill Speed reduction when active (much older effect change).
I'm sure the new moves will change it up enough otherwise too, but still interesting to see just how much of a change they do to combat this time. Usually every expansion they significantly change combat and some jobs.
What I took from this video is that I'm glad popular streamers should not design this game.
The follow up to after 3 fell cleaves is only during inner release window, not just 3 stray fell cleaves.
I love that "shdd" emote, its the more obnoxious thing I have ever seen on a Twitch chat. It almost drove baldo insane.
The funny thing about warrior is that it's back at ShB state (minus extra gauge management from upheaval). The removed fell cleaves now are the follow up combos & primal rend, basically. I don't mind, the fantasy is there and I liked spamming fell cleave in ShB.
Aion introduced button stacking quite some time ago. 1 button that you 'stacked' skills for combos.
EDIT: Aion released in 2008
Only thing I want for WAR at this point is to change the animation for Storm's Path to Butcher's Block.
I call the new move after Primal rend “savage Axe” kinda like the chargeblade move in MHW
4:30 Take it a step further and let us map a string of actions to one button. Put a cap of 5 or so, like the cap of 15 for macros, so we don't just map rotation to a single button, but that would be huge as an accessibility option and raising the floor of player performance to allow for more interesting dungeons.
I would like to see the man mode guy, the world 1st guy, the best main tank guy reacting this tank changes!
its crazy the juxtaposition of good and great players. You have certain people on twitter malding about the truncating of certain skills for ease of use when them and their team were some of the first people to clear on WF stuff and then getting upset about it when others have it. "if you cant press your skills correctly, you dont deserve the damage."
then you have xeno and arthars. "finally, i want more shit on my hotbar" lmao
great video xeems, your content has been so good lately, not to say it wasnt before but i enjoy it even more now.
So basically they made Inner Chaos look like an actual upgraded Fell Cleave. Because that's what Nascent Chaos from Infuriate does. It upgrades Fell Cleave into Inner Chaos. As it looks right now, it's just an upswing instead of an actual upgraded version.
Someone pointed out how all classes have healing and damage reduction buffed means Yoshi P and the team may be cooking hard for future fights…
I can’t wait
Well the last time, something like that happen nothing came out of it. So I wouldn’t get your hope up yet.
Im also interested in how it seems like caster jobs are getting more movement, redmage with an extra combo, blackmage with moving leylines, picto with the 20 second dash, and summoner just being summoner. Also the reduced swiftcast. Kind of excited to see if the new tier is gonna be a fuck ton of movement, i hope at least
I'm out of loop, where is his bell? I don't see he use it lately.
When I play gunbreaker during prog I sometimes spam 121212 for the heals and shields if I could set the button to 1-2 reset that would be okay with me but I don’t want to be forced to do 123 if I turn this setting on
the thingie doesnt work on combo's, it works on stuff like high jump -> mirage dive
@@mikejong1696 oh that’s a bummer I was hoping for a customizable system
9:10 There's a difference between what mods will allow client-side for stuff, and what SE would have to implement to get it to work "properly" based on server-side code.
Much of the things that plugins allow via client-side-only functionality can easily be implemented by SE if they do the same stuff. But, as soon as they implement those features client-side, they lose control over much of what they can do with those features. This could have way more unintended side effects that allow other mods to do things they really don't want them to be able to do.
basically any tank are WAR, 3 fellcleave and finisher 😅
imagine giving warrior 2 damage dealing actions while the rest gets a handshake from a yoshi totally balanced
So I guess it's something similar to what we have in PVP?
Where instead of pressing different buttons for a combo chain, you're pressing just one button?
Wonder how that will work for alternate routes like for DRG's
After 3 entire expansions of fuckall but streamlining and simplifying everything 8.0 had fucking better add some variety and job identity back, it's getting really old really quickly.
Unfortunately it probably won't be what people hope
go play pvp. job identity is peak
Cries in Samurai
So happy Xeno said one button is good for combos. I wanted it forever.
Is it bad that I'd rather Delirium become Blood Weapon than Blood Weapon become Delirium? Feel like DRK always seems to lose its coolest animations (first was Power Slash in favor of Souleater)
Paladin has like 4 buttons with ridiculous cooldown times. I can’t wait to stack combos, Shadowbringers teased it in one of the job quests and we never got it.
Man....no one talking about DRK getting some sustain and seeing Abyssal Drain still there in the job action trailer is really leaving me concerned.
Holy sht he actually made a good point.
If they make more combos 1 button then they can add more combos. Wth, good idea
I love the new Warrior skills!
I really wonder if the "skill after 3 fell cleave" does count inner chaos as a fell cleave and/or out of inner release fell cleaves.
If it does, it'd be sick D: (and a HUGE leap compared in dps compared to previous extention holy shit)
Does this mean I can setup the atonement combo then have it turn into the magic combo all on one button? If it turns all the "Spam this button 4 times and then spam the magic button 4 times" into "Press just press this one key when it's time for any spam combo" then we have a deal!
Look for everything they have mentioned so far. I think these changes will be great. BUT can someone tell me what they are going to do with inventory space and management? I would like retainers to have more space and more space in my glam dresser. Probably more glamour plate pages.
Yeah they ain't removing that 1-2-3 combo. I thought they were at first but it's just for those specific actions sadly
I’m lmao at Xenos opinion on action change settings because he’s like “cool they need to add that so we could have more combos” meanwhile sweatytryhard2093 or whatever his name is who literally made Yoshi P change how markers work in ff because his whole static cheated tried taking the elitist route
On the topic of combining combos into single-button pvp-style combos, I'm against it, but not for the reason that many people likely assume. My issue isn't that it's bad for the game, just that it's at best a band-aid. sinlge-button combos are not combos, they're just an illusion. Exactly what he said regarding the Attonement changes for Paladin, it's the illusion of a combo, a fake combo. Turning an existing combo into a single button would also become a fake combo. If your "combo" is just pressing the same button repeatedly, then why even have a combo anymore? Just make it a single spammable action that you use when all of your other stuff is on cd (or while waiting on resources).
And that's fine to. If you just want a filler action that you use when everything else is on cd, then that's a valid design choice as well. I mean, that's how Bard works, blast arrow is just a filler that you use when you have nothing else to try to get procs while waiting on timers. But that's not a combo, and I don't see the need to pretend like it is. IMHO the purpose of combos is specifically to avoid having spammable filler actions. I'm not saying that either is better or worse than the other. If you'd rather a spammable filler action, that's fine, if you want combos instead, that's fine. But they're different things. And it may well be that the game has evolved to a point where combos are out-dated. All of the jobs have a lot of other actions, and various resources and timers to manage, maybe combos don't contribute any meaningful complexity to the game anymore.
So, maybe you would rather have a spammable filler action, but don't want the same animation over and over again. And yeah, I can respect that. But to me, that sounds like the bigger issue is that you don't want to be using that filler action as often, you want to be pressing more interesting buttons instead. And a fake 1-button combo doesn't fix that issue, it just hides it under a coat of paint.
I am very surprised it took this long to put combos on a single key, did we really need 6 skill slots for them???
i dont think we are getting one button combos just yet, im pretty sure what they were talking about is just the option to split attacks that are already the same button like fell cleave and inner chaos
@@mrgodogodopaint Damn that sucks, but it's good for people that want it I guess
Waitwaitwait.
WHEN DID XENO BUMP TO OVER 100K? Bruh I was here since mid/late-stormblood, WHEN DID THE HOUSE GET SO BIG?!
holy shit finally, seeing someone with some brains about the action bar change
I'm interested to see how the combo will work for Sam since their combo has three branches for each symbol
I wonder if they're gonna up gauge cost for abilities or if dark is just going to get the dps increase as a treat
3:27 You cant actually queue Geirskogul (DRG) when you try to cast it at the end of a Life of the Dragon window, because its not on your hotbar
Thats the only niche use I can think of other than personal preference, and LoD is getting nerfed back to 20s with 7.0 anyways so this change wont even fix it LMAO
Oh hey, after watching more of the video, it'd be nice on WAR too, if the devs didn't outright delete that problem too lmao
I think should have let them discuss each change first then pause it so he could give his input so there wasn't him overtalking her explaining what was being said
I wonder how the 1 button combo feature works with abilities that could proc two different abilities. Dragoons first attack branches into two different combos.
Some abilitys probably still stack, i assume if simple chain combos, like oh you do 1 2 3 and loop, like bard. While reaper has itd 1 2, then has wither 3 or 4 so might stay separate
@@ruick78 True Thrust is the starting attack for Vorpal Thrust->Full Thrust->Fang and Claw->Wheeling Thrust.
True Thrust also is the starting attack for Disembowl->Chaos Thrust->Wheeling Thrust->Fang and Claw.
The only thing I can think of is having to choose which combo True Thrust starts and then having a second combo set that only triggers after True Thrust. This would still definitely reduce the button bloat for DRG. Though I think I might still have Wheeling and Fang as seperate buttons as they are positionals and I have them set up on my hotbar in a way to easily remind me which side of the target I need to be.
Would also reduce my line aoe spamming to one button and make it impossible for me to mess up that rotation like I commonly do 😂
well in pvp you have "combo 1" button and "combo 2" button that both start at vorpal thrust but have different progressions. but i also dont think we are getting one button combos yet, the slide was talking about just the option to split attacks that are already the same button like fell cleave and inner chaos
The saddest part for me is that PLD gauge is the same still, maybe next expac
Can they at least keep the Blood Weapon visual instead of Delirium's if theyre just gonna combine the two : /
Nice. Now, if you’re a psychopath, you can have the entire Gnashing Fang combo on 3 separate buttons.
would changing blood weapon to having it only during delirium screw up early living shadow openers? because normally it would be start with blood weapon, put up dark arts, do 123 then bring living shadow into delirium in the first 6-8 seconds of the fight
As i understood, you dont need gauge for living shadow anymore
The word of the day is Um apparently.
I'm gonna play pictomancer and paint A CUTE STRUMMER BOTTOM LEFT! ❤
The thumbnail is fire
Why not just use the fell cleaves and super fell cleaves and hold primal combo for the end?
Man i just realised how terrible 2 min no mercy windows are gonna be now, you're either not getting the lionheart combo in burst or leaving burst with 3 carts
I wonder how samurai will work with the action change settings, like with meikyo or whatever the skill is that lets you use 3 attacks regardless of where they go in the combo
Edit: I'll probably set the base 1, 2, 3 to auto replace and then for classes like warrior I'll have their alternative ender on the bar still, so have storms path as the self replace combo and then have storms eye off the side
If drk was just completly reworked i'd be happy. Then they'd give it its due attention. Like do they even read NA or EU forums? stupid question
i'm not malding, you are.
I wanted a DRK rework so long bro ;-;
They remove 1 weave with Blood Weapon/Delirium but add another with a new attack after Fray summoned...
I don't my job to be "random shit go" the class ;-; It has no flow or reason, just dmg buttons. At least GNB has a flow in it's rotation, DRK i just press buttons.
NA/EU forums are just filled with parse junkies I swear. They only care if the class does damage, it doesnt matter how shit it feels to play, if it does damage that's all they care about it.
@@GhosttheassassinSJ looks like when is delirium activated it might change the 124 combo which is nice, the 30% mitigation button may or may not have class specific bonuses and the overhyped dot no longer costs blood to summon.
Nice things but I don’t think it’s enough.
Is action merge basically ff14 combo plugin? I'm a bit out of the loop, haven't played since September last year
Think pvp action. In pvp your 123 combo is all on one button that cycles between them in order
@@infamousdestruc No it's not that. It's you being able to separate abilities that are already part of the same combo. Think Confiteor combo, you'd be able to separate Blade of Fatih, Truth, and Valor from that button and have them on separate buttons if you so wanted.
Pretty sure it's both my friend
I want a DRK rework ;-;
I don't want "random shit go the job"
I want a flow in my rotation like GNB, but I'm just pressing buttons when I'm DRK.
I want lifesteal, or GCD abyssal drain.
I want TNB not tied to DMG anymore ;-;
Thanky you Modders, thank you XIVCombo team!
I personally don't like the merge of delirum and blood weapon. at least on paper it seems dumb to me. maybe once I get to try it out I will change that take
🔫 I WILL CONTINUE 🔫
I noticed that Primal Rend makes the "Combo Noise" after the first big slam, so maybe it's a 3 step combo? It would be kinda awkward considering PR can be used as a gap closer but...
I'm tanking this expac, their improvements look so good
If sammy was 1-1, 1-2-2, and 1-3-3 it would make the rotation so much more intuitive
3:25 - limiting a Pally 123 combo to 12 for max SP regen and thus more clemencies saved me from wiping a few times when healers decided to tank the floor but otherwise I dunno.
That action change thing was making me laugh last night. So many complaining and some even more so after they were told it was optional.
Lionheart. Nuff said.
Sickest thumbnail my liege NOCRINGE
Bruh just want mah Green Mage tank.
The mit buffs are for FRU and Ultimate 7, not for dungeons and savages. Just like how 30%s were buffed to 15s for TEA's PA buster lmao
I don't know why but when the man asks who got banned for this I laughed a good 2 minutes straight😂
I am extraordinarily disappointed with summoner...
Considering dropping the class, ngl...
"I said this years ago".
Sir, please provide the receipt.
I wonder if the super fell cleave is gonna replace inner release and have like a 30s timer like primal rend... Because as it stands, inner release isn't really a damage buff, it's a "you have buffed fell cleaves that always crit and can now vertical beyblade yippeeee". It all crits anyway. IF they added a % damage to it like no mercy... THEN it could be a bit spicy.
Plungebros... not like this...
I kinda disagree with Xeems on everything he said about GNB lol
AmI the only one, who dont see nearly no differents to the new effects? xD
Are we still in a 2 min meta?
Finally 1 bottom combo
It's continuation just 1 button combos already existing? lol
Many classes didn't have them still, only specific jobs had it, some jobs have like 12 useless buttons that could be merged
I mean they already do it some in pvp
add the action change NOW
"ease of use" translation for more fucking casual homogenization
More simplification of an already over simplified game.
I don't like the gap closer change. I prefer the old animations