New comment. The black pipe has a diameter that is too small compared to the two pipes on the turbine... Already there is a loss of power along the length, which must be compensated by a larger flow and larger diameter of feed. But on condition of having water. But I really like this principle over the rivers ... Good job. Cordially. I am French. Peter.
Solar and water complement each other if there is water in the winter and sun in the summer. If you ever have too much electricity then an automated spear valve nozzle would dial generation back which may save water. Do be sure that the plumbing to the nozzles is repairable, a glued assembly may have to be broken to remove or change a nozzle.
nope...doesnt work that way in this kind of system research head pressure and dynamic pressure ...then learn why velocity out the jets is not called pressure
Hi guys. The principle is perfect and I like it because all the water is used. But if you have two nozzles on the turbine, the supply, or arrival, pipes must be twice as large so as not to divide the flow and the pressure! Two pipes of 40 mm on the turbine therefore one of 80 mm for the arrival... What do you think? Good continuation !
Have you considered using a digital pressure gauge and electric valves with a micro-controller to dynamically turn on or off nozzles when the creek flow is greater or lesser?
Just a quick suggestion for next time you do one of these...I noticed you glued your ball valve fitting right up against the turbine housing. It may be best to have a short piece of PVC closest to the housing in case the valve ever goes bad and you have to replace it. It would be much easier to cut through that versus trying to cut the valve off. Just a thought! Another awesome video!
It would be interesting to do a test on the second jet, it will not change much, the theory says that a lower flow rate has less pressure drops for the same diameter, but since there are dry curves I would try to swap the jets, so that the larger one is direct and the smaller one who uses less water goes through 90 ° bends.
I think Nathan did that. At one point he was getting 120 watts. We just need more water. Perhaps this winter we can run two 1/4" nozzles and get 180 watts.
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@4:40 flow is not a problem...all you need to worry about is head pressure and dynamic pressure dynamic pressure is adjust with jet size...head pressure is the very top of the intake water...which isnt adjustable 90s in a head pressure system such as this, does not slow the flow....the jets do
I've learned with PVC and sunlight and age of re-used PVC (I never throw any pipe away) to have an "oh shit" extension between joints and structures. I was restarting my pump last week and an old piece of light pvc just broke, causing me to throw away a 1 1/2 T and several feet of pipe between my pump and the crack. I was saying "oh shit" as I humped it into town for another couple of T's, I always buy extra because I'm always breaking crap on a Saturday night and the store don't open til Monday. Another "oh shit" moment.
Buy 3, use 1, break 1, lose the other when you store the spare away. Go to the store and get 3 more when the next one breaks and then you find the one you misplaced. ;-)
If you search my channel videos you'll find the 2nd micro hydro on this Spring and it does have my 1st edition insulated Box. Bring the noise way down. I have an idea for version number 2 coming up
@@bhupalmonger8919 Yes, there’s power there- maybe a resistance load would work, but in reality: no. Without regulation or a buffer of some sort the power will be all over the place.
I am interested to have one Low Head Turbine. We had an irrigation system in our farm, the old waterwheel was destryed because its made of wood. How much is 6 inches Low Head Turbine. I am from Phillippines, North Cotabato, Matalam
I believe pelton wheels are different from and should never be called turbines since they operate at lower speeds and efficiencies . . . Peltons are more akin to water wheels as such . . . So it goes ! ! ! - Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse Five -
@@LandtoHouse what i like most is that it has 36 poles and in 100 rpm it will produce 640 watts and 60.8 volts A.C. when converted to D.C. using rectifier then it is an application for grid tie inverter..
@@templar3540 I have a number of different Smartdrive motors and can tell you point blank that that unit will not produce 640 Watts at 100 RPM. At 1000 RPM that would even be pushing it. Look at the chart on the Amazon page and you see at 1200 RPM a 640 Watt rating as a motor. At 100 RPM, the units will barely produce power. Not even the 480 Watts that it shows as a motor at 140 RPM. I don't have my 36 Pole units set up right now so I'll just give you some real world outputs of some Samsung Al wound 18 coil units. In a 3 X 1 X 6C setup ( A ), the output is 27.8VDC and 31.4 Watts @ 150 RPM. In a 3 X 3 X 2C setup ( B ) it did not produce any usable power at 17.7VDC @ 150 RPM. Now doubling the speed to 300 RPM A put out 46VDC @96 Watts. B put out 30.4VDC and .03 Watts. At 500 RPM, A put out 80.3VDC @ 179Watts. B put out 28.0VDC and 132 Watts. A was not tested to 750 RPM as it would exceed the controller's rating for input Voltage when used on a 24 Volt system. B was tested @ 750 RPM and put out 42.8 Volts and 265 Watts. 750 RPM is slightly under the small units 800 RPM rating and as a motor they are rated at 310 Volts and 2.5 Amps or about 750 Watts. So if specs tell you anything, expect 1/2 the Watts as an alternator as you would consume as a motor at the same RPM. I am setting up for testing some Samsung 36 coil units in various setups but expect to see no more than 1/2 the rated Wattage at their rated RPM which is very close to what the F&P ( also sold by Whirlpool ) units are rated. At 150 RPM in one test a Samsung 36C unit produced 100 Volts at 1 amp into a 100 Ohm load. They are rated at .94 HP at 310 Volts and 5.5 Amps at 1400 RPM when the Samsung 36 coil is run as a motor. Samsung also has some 36 coil units rated at 1000 RPM and 310 Volts and 2.5 Amps. The picture also shows it as a 27 coil stator/36 pole rotor. As does the spec sheet. It weighs in at 17 lbs which is just about the same as the Samsung 36 coil units.
There are better stators than the one used there. That one has an AL wound stator if it is www.amazon.com/dp/B07D81B1DK. What you really want is a copper wound one. Even more so if used near water or in high humidity.
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Have you looked at actual power dam designs online? Your problem is physics mr. Engineer. A water wheel doesnt use pressure to drive it, but insted it uses water weight to pull it with gravity. A turbine works the same way. You use a solid pipe without a vacuum breaks to use the water weight from the drop in vertical height in a pipe sized to accommodate the flow present without pulling air. Air wont turn your turbine. A local plumbing wholesaler can help you buy the right impeller blade and valute design to get the tolerances tight enough to pull the water through the valute and thus rotate the blade without pressure nozzles or that strange valve, box and pvc setup you have. You will end up with a turbine out of the pressure, (harms way), situation and have physics pulling your turbine with allot less parts, cost and trial and error. (The you have a product you can confidently market that wont require constant tweaking). Then send me a big check when your rich for helping set you in the proper direction. Lol. The whole process of getting the right stuff at the wholesaler that will work combined with re piping for negative,(syphon), pressure should have you going within the week. I will just wait by my mail box for the check! Lol. Live and learn I guess Engineer.
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New comment. The black pipe has a diameter that is too small compared to the two pipes on the turbine... Already there is a loss of power along the length, which must be compensated by a larger flow and larger diameter of feed. But on condition of having water. But I really like this principle over the rivers ... Good job. Cordially. I am French. Peter.
Solar and water complement each other if there is water in the winter and sun in the summer. If you ever have too much electricity then an automated spear valve nozzle would dial generation back which may save water. Do be sure that the plumbing to the nozzles is repairable, a glued assembly may have to be broken to remove or change a nozzle.
all i could think of when that music was playing during turbine assembly was Cody'sLab lol
I will have to check that out.
That's what it is! Was driving me nuts. Knew it was another channel
Oh man, you're right. Haven't kept up with him for a while, but I'm a long-time fan.
if you use 2 x 45 degree angles to make your 90's....you may find you will gain some more watts because of the less hard 90 bends.
nope...doesnt work that way in this kind of system
research head pressure and dynamic pressure ...then learn why velocity out the jets is not called pressure
Hi guys. The principle is perfect and I like it because all the water is used. But if you have two nozzles on the turbine, the supply, or arrival, pipes must be twice as large so as not to divide the flow and the pressure! Two pipes of 40 mm on the turbine therefore one of 80 mm for the arrival... What do you think? Good continuation !
Have you considered using a digital pressure gauge and electric valves with a micro-controller to dynamically turn on or off nozzles when the creek flow is greater or lesser?
Just a quick suggestion for next time you do one of these...I noticed you glued your ball valve fitting right up against the turbine housing. It may be best to have a short piece of PVC closest to the housing in case the valve ever goes bad and you have to replace it. It would be much easier to cut through that versus trying to cut the valve off. Just a thought! Another awesome video!
That is true! I guess the cost of all that was only $20 or so. If it fails in a few years I will have to pay that again.
It would be interesting to do a test on the second jet, it will not change much, the theory says that a lower flow rate has less pressure drops for the same diameter, but since there are dry curves I would try to swap the jets, so that the larger one is direct and the smaller one who uses less water goes through 90 ° bends.
Agreed.
I think Nathan did that. At one point he was getting 120 watts. We just need more water. Perhaps this winter we can run two 1/4" nozzles and get 180 watts.
the 90s have no influence on this type of system
@@t00ls742 how would friction not apply?
you guys are living in my dreams
you are doing what you want in a beautiful land in us and enjoying your life, that's my dream
I'm living in Iran....................
There is a lot of water here and it is great for installing micro hydro like this one!
@4:40 flow is not a problem...all you need to worry about is head pressure and dynamic pressure
dynamic pressure is adjust with jet size...head pressure is the very top of the intake water...which isnt adjustable
90s in a head pressure system such as this, does not slow the flow....the jets do
I've learned with PVC and sunlight and age of re-used PVC (I never throw any pipe away) to have an "oh shit" extension between joints and structures. I was restarting my pump last week and an old piece of light pvc just broke, causing me to throw away a 1 1/2 T and several feet of pipe between my pump and the crack. I was saying "oh shit" as I humped it into town for another couple of T's, I always buy extra because I'm always breaking crap on a Saturday night and the store don't open til Monday. Another "oh shit" moment.
Buy 3, use 1, break 1, lose the other when you store the spare away. Go to the store and get 3 more when the next one breaks and then you find the one you misplaced. ;-)
Excellent.. Now just try to make a way to reduce the noise of the generator and protect the equipment for longevity..
If you search my channel videos you'll find the 2nd micro hydro on this Spring and it does have my 1st edition insulated Box. Bring the noise way down. I have an idea for version number 2 coming up
Nice install,the problem will arise when the flow will be high in the stream it sweep that install
This creek has around 400 gpm max flow in a very big storm. That should pass under the 4x4 just fine.
The other problem will be when it freezes
Max watts? TY. Also, why 3 phase, DC power? Guess your inverter needs DC?
why did you put the big nozzle after 2 90 degree bends?
There should not be a problem with 1.25" of water going into that nozzle. It has been changed over to a 3/16".
Can we use AC current directly
@@bhupalmonger8919
Yes, there’s power there- maybe a resistance load would work, but in reality: no. Without regulation or a buffer of some sort the power will be all over the place.
the 90s have no influence on this system
A separate machine has to be installed to bring the water under pressure, then what is the use of a turbine?
Are you serious?
what kind of motor generator is that?
Dude use some thread tape and or pipe dope when you have threaded adapters
well bro
I am interested to have one Low Head Turbine. We had an irrigation system in our farm, the old waterwheel was destryed because its made of wood. How much is 6 inches Low Head Turbine. I am from Phillippines, North Cotabato, Matalam
Where can i buy this turbine?
replace with servor motor will help u get more electric with that speed
what is the name of the music when he is pluming every thing?
What is link are turbine?
I believe pelton wheels are different from and should never be called turbines since they operate at lower speeds and efficiencies . . .
Peltons are more akin to water wheels as such . . .
So it goes ! ! !
- Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse Five -
Yes I think "permanent magnet alternator" is the correct term for what I am working with.
I have a similar situation and i was woundering what turbin langston sent you
We usually customized it depending on your site specifications
How to buy this micro hydro ? Please can you help me?
Surprised the turbine was not designed with a more efficient cross flow turbine wheel
That wheel was one my neighbor already had! We will be installing another at some point.
codys lab ?
I just looked up that channel. He does use that song! Haha
how you can install the jet water??
Hello. This is a series of videos. The other videos show the penstock install.
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sir the best turbine generator is fp-640
Just checked that one on amazon. Looks like a nice wind turbine.
@@LandtoHouse yes it could be wind or hydro...
@@LandtoHouse what i like most is that it has 36 poles and in 100 rpm it will produce 640 watts and 60.8 volts A.C. when converted to D.C. using rectifier then it is an application for grid tie inverter..
@@templar3540 I have a number of different Smartdrive motors and can tell you point blank that that unit will not produce 640 Watts at 100 RPM. At 1000 RPM that would even be pushing it. Look at the chart on the Amazon page and you see at 1200 RPM a 640 Watt rating as a motor. At 100 RPM, the units will barely produce power. Not even the 480 Watts that it shows as a motor at 140 RPM. I don't have my 36 Pole units set up right now so I'll just give you some real world outputs of some Samsung Al wound 18 coil units. In a 3 X 1 X 6C setup ( A ), the output is 27.8VDC and 31.4 Watts @ 150 RPM. In a 3 X 3 X 2C setup ( B ) it did not produce any usable power at 17.7VDC @ 150 RPM. Now doubling the speed to 300 RPM A put out 46VDC @96 Watts. B put out 30.4VDC and .03 Watts. At 500 RPM, A put out 80.3VDC @ 179Watts. B put out 28.0VDC and 132 Watts. A was not tested to 750 RPM as it would exceed the controller's rating for input Voltage when used on a 24 Volt system. B was tested @ 750 RPM and put out 42.8 Volts and 265 Watts. 750 RPM is slightly under the small units 800 RPM rating and as a motor they are rated at 310 Volts and 2.5 Amps or about 750 Watts. So if specs tell you anything, expect 1/2 the Watts as an alternator as you would consume as a motor at the same RPM. I am setting up for testing some Samsung 36 coil units in various setups but expect to see no more than 1/2 the rated Wattage at their rated RPM which is very close to what the F&P ( also sold by Whirlpool ) units are rated. At 150 RPM in one test a Samsung 36C unit produced 100 Volts at 1 amp into a 100 Ohm load. They are rated at .94 HP at 310 Volts and 5.5 Amps at 1400 RPM when the Samsung 36 coil is run as a motor. Samsung also has some 36 coil units rated at 1000 RPM and 310 Volts and 2.5 Amps.
The picture also shows it as a 27 coil stator/36 pole rotor. As does the spec sheet. It weighs in at 17 lbs which is just about the same as the Samsung 36 coil units.
There are better stators than the one used there. That one has an AL wound stator if it is www.amazon.com/dp/B07D81B1DK. What you really want is a copper wound one. Even more so if used near water or in high humidity.
Lots of leaks
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Have you looked at actual power dam designs online?
Your problem is physics mr. Engineer.
A water wheel doesnt use pressure to drive it, but insted it uses water weight to pull it with gravity.
A turbine works the same way.
You use a solid pipe without a vacuum breaks to use the water weight from the drop in vertical height in a pipe sized to accommodate the flow present without pulling air.
Air wont turn your turbine.
A local plumbing wholesaler can help you buy the right impeller blade and valute design to get the tolerances tight enough to pull the water through the valute and thus rotate the blade without pressure nozzles or that strange valve, box and pvc setup you have.
You will end up with a turbine out of the pressure, (harms way), situation and have physics pulling your turbine with allot less parts, cost and trial and error.
(The you have a product you can confidently market that wont require constant tweaking).
Then send me a big check when your rich for helping set you in the proper direction. Lol.
The whole process of getting the right stuff at the wholesaler that will work combined with re piping for negative,(syphon), pressure should have you going within the week.
I will just wait by my mail box for the check!
Lol.
Live and learn I guess Engineer.
Could you possibly fit anymore commercials into this video? Jesus
Google ads? I don't have controll over how many there are.